FBI Undercover

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0:00:02 > 0:00:08This programme contains very strong language.

0:00:08 > 0:00:12I said, "Don't come down here with no goddamn cameras and stuff."

0:00:12 > 0:00:16Hello? I told you I didn't want my face in this shit.

0:00:16 > 0:00:19Even if your face is showing, how is somebody going to come after you?

0:00:19 > 0:00:21You'd be surprised who knows me.

0:00:21 > 0:00:24- Everybody in Brooklyn knows me. - But they don't know where you are.

0:00:24 > 0:00:27They know me in Harlem, too, they know my face.

0:00:27 > 0:00:30But they don't know where you are.

0:00:30 > 0:00:34I might not even make no independent film if motherfuckers come after me.

0:00:37 > 0:00:39You guys ready?

0:00:39 > 0:00:40CAMERA CLICKS

0:00:42 > 0:00:44CAMERA CLICKS

0:00:44 > 0:00:49# O'er the land of the free

0:00:49 > 0:00:54# And the home of the brave. #

0:00:54 > 0:00:57CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:01:01 > 0:01:04HE SHOUTS ENCOURAGEMENT

0:01:06 > 0:01:08No!

0:01:17 > 0:01:19# This is how we do

0:01:19 > 0:01:21# This is how we do it

0:01:21 > 0:01:23# This is how we do

0:01:23 > 0:01:26# This is how we do it

0:01:26 > 0:01:28# This is how we do

0:01:28 > 0:01:31# This is how we do it... #

0:01:31 > 0:01:34Anybody want a hot dog? Two for one.

0:01:36 > 0:01:39INAUDIBLE

0:02:09 > 0:02:11'I don't like the word "informant".

0:02:16 > 0:02:19'I consider myself as a civilian operative.

0:02:27 > 0:02:30'The public are not supposed to know I work for them.

0:02:37 > 0:02:40'I don't exist. I'm a spook.

0:02:40 > 0:02:42'A ghost.'

0:03:11 > 0:03:14- So, what am I going to do with this one?- I'm going to show you.

0:03:14 > 0:03:16Patience.

0:03:16 > 0:03:18Patience, little one, patience.

0:03:19 > 0:03:24- Cool.- You're still a caterpillar. You're not a butterfly yet.

0:03:24 > 0:03:26Dude, you got to have that magic touch. See right there?

0:03:26 > 0:03:28See that right there?

0:03:28 > 0:03:30I'll take this side, you just take care of that part.

0:03:30 > 0:03:32Bring it over a little bit. There you go.

0:03:58 > 0:04:00MOBILE PHONE RINGS

0:04:01 > 0:04:03Yeah, what's up?

0:04:05 > 0:04:09Yeah. I got a gut feeling about this and, you know...

0:04:09 > 0:04:11Exactly.

0:04:14 > 0:04:16What happened with the FBI?

0:04:17 > 0:04:20They called me to do an assignment in Pittsburgh.

0:04:22 > 0:04:24Whatever the case may be.

0:04:24 > 0:04:27If they want me to do surveillance, I'm going to do it, you know.

0:04:27 > 0:04:29I need the money. I need the money.

0:04:33 > 0:04:34Shit...

0:04:38 > 0:04:40Let's go.

0:04:40 > 0:04:44'Whatever this case comes out, if it's worth 200,000,

0:04:44 > 0:04:46'I'm going to give it all to my son.

0:04:50 > 0:04:53'I kind of messed up last time.

0:04:55 > 0:04:59'I mismanaged all my money, at least over 200,000-300,000.

0:05:00 > 0:05:04'So if this is my second chance, I'm going to take advantage of it.'

0:05:36 > 0:05:39- What is the map on the wall? - Why is the what?

0:05:39 > 0:05:41Why is the map on the wall?

0:05:41 > 0:05:43To find my locations around here.

0:05:43 > 0:05:48- Is there a significance to the red lines?- Yes, yes, yes, yes.

0:05:48 > 0:05:50It's regarding the work I do.

0:05:54 > 0:05:57No, I won't give you the picture. I'm going to put him up on here.

0:05:57 > 0:05:59It'd be better for you cos I don't want to explain nothing to you.

0:05:59 > 0:06:02You got it? That's it. Don't ask no questions about who they are.

0:06:02 > 0:06:05I'm giving you something that you shouldn't be seeing anyway.

0:06:05 > 0:06:09You know something? I notice you're always getting fucking headshots.

0:06:09 > 0:06:11Didn't you say you wanted to do this project?

0:06:11 > 0:06:13Yeah, but don't you ever give it a break?

0:06:13 > 0:06:16I can see why no fucking celebrities don't like "passerazzi".

0:06:20 > 0:06:23- Are you not going to tell us anything?- No.

0:06:23 > 0:06:28I mean, these are all targets that are in suspected areas.

0:06:28 > 0:06:31For some reason, they've got a big population of Muslims

0:06:31 > 0:06:36that come from the various countries over there that come to school here.

0:06:36 > 0:06:40Moroccans, Somalis, Iranians, Saudis...

0:06:43 > 0:06:46And then they all go back to where they came from.

0:06:47 > 0:06:50I don't have no feelings for them.

0:06:50 > 0:06:53You're making Islam look bad, you got to go.

0:06:59 > 0:07:02- RADIO:- In a new book called The Terror Factory,

0:07:02 > 0:07:05Trevor Aaronson documents how the Federal Bureau of Investigation

0:07:05 > 0:07:08has built a vast network of informants since 9/11

0:07:08 > 0:07:10and how those new FBI tactics work

0:07:10 > 0:07:15within the delicate balance between civil liberties and domestic safety.

0:07:15 > 0:07:16You know, before 9/11,

0:07:16 > 0:07:19the FBI investigated crimes after they'd occurred

0:07:19 > 0:07:22and then, after 9/11, the mandate on the FBI was "never again".

0:07:22 > 0:07:25And so what they're trying to do now, unlike before, is stop crimes

0:07:25 > 0:07:28before they happen and these sting operations are how they do that.

0:07:28 > 0:07:31How many informants did they employ before 9/11?

0:07:31 > 0:07:33Under Hoover, during the Cointelpro days,

0:07:33 > 0:07:35the FBI had 1,500 informants

0:07:35 > 0:07:39and then, after 9/11, there was an explosion up to 15,000.

0:07:39 > 0:07:43Hasn't the FBI actually recruited criminals and conmen?

0:07:43 > 0:07:44Absolutely.

0:07:44 > 0:07:46The best informants are kind of the worst people.

0:07:46 > 0:07:49A federal court judge described informants to me as sociopaths

0:07:49 > 0:07:52because they require them to build these very close relationships

0:07:52 > 0:07:55and then betray them for personal means.

0:08:10 > 0:08:13PHONE VIBRATES

0:08:19 > 0:08:21PHONE VIBRATES

0:08:26 > 0:08:28They want to make a big bust

0:08:28 > 0:08:30CAMERA CLICKS and they want to bust this guy

0:08:30 > 0:08:33and whoever else are his associates regarding that.

0:08:39 > 0:08:43They just gave me this picture and said, "Look, this is the POI."

0:08:43 > 0:08:46- What is POI? - Person of interest.

0:08:46 > 0:08:48His name is Khalifah.

0:08:53 > 0:08:56They suspect that he might be involved with individuals

0:08:56 > 0:08:58dealing with domestic terrorism.

0:09:06 > 0:09:11Right now, I would like to make this my last assignment.

0:09:11 > 0:09:15I want to spend the rest of my little bit of time with my son,

0:09:15 > 0:09:18not 800-something miles away.

0:09:38 > 0:09:42- Have you made contact with the POI? - Yeah.

0:09:42 > 0:09:45I bumped into him by accident on my own.

0:09:45 > 0:09:48I just happened to be walking cos I was going to go to Goodwill.

0:09:54 > 0:09:57The bus stop is right there and I happened to see him

0:09:57 > 0:10:00and his wife so I walked over there and greeted them.

0:10:02 > 0:10:07The second time I met him with a brother named Jamil,

0:10:07 > 0:10:12Afrocentric shop, and, at that point, we exchanged numbers.

0:10:12 > 0:10:18He gave me his card, which contained his e-mail, his website

0:10:18 > 0:10:20and the things that he do.

0:10:21 > 0:10:26- The Shabaan teaching something. - What does as-Shabaab mean in Arabic?

0:10:26 > 0:10:28It's supposed to be "students".

0:10:28 > 0:10:29- CHANTING:- Allahu Akbar!

0:10:29 > 0:10:33But in Somali, the word "shabaab" is linked to a terrorist group.

0:10:37 > 0:10:41He wasn't Muslim all the time. He was a thug.

0:10:42 > 0:10:45Always fighting with the police. He did time.

0:10:47 > 0:10:49Does he think you're new to Pittsburgh?

0:10:49 > 0:10:51He knows I'm new to Pittsburgh.

0:10:51 > 0:10:53Why does he think you're here?

0:10:53 > 0:10:55To do work for Red Cross, search and rescue.

0:10:55 > 0:10:58Do you know how this guy first came to their attention?

0:10:58 > 0:11:01The way I see him running around here now,

0:11:01 > 0:11:03it would make any motherfucker suspicious.

0:11:03 > 0:11:05He's walking around looking like a Taliban.

0:11:09 > 0:11:14My name is Khalifah al-Akili and I am from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania,

0:11:14 > 0:11:16United States of America.

0:11:16 > 0:11:20The belly of the beast.

0:11:20 > 0:11:24HE SPEAKS IN ARABIC

0:11:24 > 0:11:27His whole concept was about the government.

0:11:27 > 0:11:31He didn't like the government. "Why must we never forget 9/11?

0:11:31 > 0:11:34"People are killed, murdered or die every single day."

0:11:43 > 0:11:46So, he has a hatred towards the government.

0:11:46 > 0:11:49He doesn't really go out and speak in public about that.

0:11:49 > 0:11:51He does it on Facebook.

0:12:21 > 0:12:23PHONE VIBRATES

0:12:25 > 0:12:27PHONE VIBRATES

0:12:45 > 0:12:49- The target lives right around the corner from you?- That's right.

0:12:54 > 0:12:58Most of the time, this is how you get close to the target.

0:12:58 > 0:13:01If you can get in the same apartment, same apartment building,

0:13:01 > 0:13:04two or three blocks' proximity.

0:13:04 > 0:13:06The agent said it's time to go.

0:13:06 > 0:13:07He's going to be here, he's going to be there,

0:13:07 > 0:13:10cos it's obvious they're tapping his phones.

0:13:11 > 0:13:13These agents here is a little slow.

0:13:14 > 0:13:16They're not used to dealing with

0:13:16 > 0:13:19so-called domestic terrorist individuals.

0:13:20 > 0:13:22It ain't like New York.

0:13:24 > 0:13:26PHONE VIBRATES

0:13:59 > 0:14:01I really want to get into a bakery.

0:14:03 > 0:14:04That's what I really want to do.

0:14:07 > 0:14:10I want to specialise in custom cupcakes.

0:14:14 > 0:14:19Open it with someone who's a master baker, I'll be his apprentice.

0:14:22 > 0:14:24Sweet cupcakes!

0:14:29 > 0:14:30How was your meeting with the agents?

0:14:30 > 0:14:35The meeting was somewhat brief and, you know,

0:14:35 > 0:14:37it's to gather information, gather intel.

0:14:39 > 0:14:43You know, in the interests of national security,

0:14:43 > 0:14:45then I shall oblige

0:14:45 > 0:14:53by gathering that information and taking it to my superiors...

0:14:53 > 0:14:56who, at this time, will be paying me some money.

0:15:14 > 0:15:17What is the character that you're playing with Khalifah?

0:15:17 > 0:15:20I'm not playing no character. I'm playing who I am.

0:15:21 > 0:15:24You know, a Muslim brother

0:15:24 > 0:15:28who is involved with the Black Panther Party.

0:15:28 > 0:15:30That - that image there.

0:15:41 > 0:15:43# Black is beautiful... #

0:15:43 > 0:15:45Say "power to the people".

0:15:45 > 0:15:47- CROWD:- Power to the people!

0:15:47 > 0:15:48Say "off the pigs".

0:15:48 > 0:15:50- CROWD:- Off the pigs!

0:15:52 > 0:15:56I joined the Black Panther Party, if I remember correctly,

0:15:56 > 0:16:02during the springtime, yeah, of 1967.

0:16:02 > 0:16:07At that time, I was a little fly kid, wearing fly clothes.

0:16:07 > 0:16:11- # Revolution has come - Off the pigs! #

0:16:11 > 0:16:12I was looking for a pack,

0:16:12 > 0:16:16you always look to be part of a group or family or fraternity.

0:16:16 > 0:16:20We are organising our community - politically educating them,

0:16:20 > 0:16:24telling them exactly what is going on, not only here in America...

0:16:24 > 0:16:26I was interested in what they were saying.

0:16:26 > 0:16:28What the government can't supply,

0:16:28 > 0:16:31then we take upon ourselves to give to the people.

0:16:31 > 0:16:34We're going to walk on this racist power structure and we're going

0:16:34 > 0:16:37to say to the whole damn government, "Stick 'em up, motherfucker!

0:16:37 > 0:16:41"This is a hold-up! We've come for what's ours."

0:16:41 > 0:16:44FBI Director J Edgar Hoover today asserted that,

0:16:44 > 0:16:46of the black extremist groups, the Black Panthers represent

0:16:46 > 0:16:48the greatest internal threat to the nation.

0:16:48 > 0:16:51This memo apparently went out to 37 agents.

0:16:51 > 0:16:54It ordered them to find informers in the black ghettoes.

0:16:54 > 0:16:57It was a command, not a suggestion.

0:16:57 > 0:17:00The documents describe things like Cointelpro,

0:17:00 > 0:17:03the FBI's programme to disrupt political extremists.

0:17:03 > 0:17:07The FBI had the organisation under surveillance.

0:17:07 > 0:17:10There had been efforts to get people inside our meetings.

0:17:12 > 0:17:15- Were you an informant during the Panther days?- No.

0:17:16 > 0:17:19What did the party say about informants?

0:17:19 > 0:17:20They'd kill them.

0:17:39 > 0:17:41PHONE VIBRATES

0:17:46 > 0:17:48PHONE VIBRATES

0:17:52 > 0:17:58- Are all of your POIs Muslim? - Yes, all the POIs are Muslims.

0:17:58 > 0:18:01- Why do you think that is? - I don't know what makes them Muslims.

0:18:03 > 0:18:06I took my shahada in the early '70s.

0:18:10 > 0:18:15It's a very practical religion,

0:18:15 > 0:18:19but there are certain things you have to maintain, you know.

0:18:19 > 0:18:23Help one another, virtue is in piety.

0:18:26 > 0:18:28PHONE VIBRATES

0:18:37 > 0:18:41At this point now, I am struggling with my faith.

0:18:41 > 0:18:44Not because I don't believe in Allah -

0:18:44 > 0:18:47things didn't go my way as I may have planned it to be.

0:18:50 > 0:18:54There's times I've been strong and there's times I've been weak.

0:18:57 > 0:18:59PHONE VIBRATES

0:19:03 > 0:19:08CALL TO PRAYER IN ARABIC

0:19:15 > 0:19:19'There ain't too many Muslims in this whole area likes this dude.

0:19:19 > 0:19:22'They don't cos he starts trouble.

0:19:23 > 0:19:26'One imam had to call the police on him to get him

0:19:26 > 0:19:29'out the fucking mosque cos he kept running off at the mouth.'

0:19:32 > 0:19:34He up and turned round and told the imam,

0:19:34 > 0:19:36"You're going to remember this."

0:19:36 > 0:19:38PHONE VIBRATES

0:19:49 > 0:19:51PHONE VIBRATES

0:19:55 > 0:19:59How do you go about getting someone to talk about jihad?

0:19:59 > 0:20:01You don't do it that way, you just talk about Islam.

0:20:01 > 0:20:03You don't do that on the first day you meet,

0:20:03 > 0:20:06you don't do it on the first week. It might take you two or three weeks.

0:20:06 > 0:20:09You feel the individual out. You see if he's got grudges.

0:20:09 > 0:20:13You find out how he became Muslim, why he wanted to become Muslim.

0:20:13 > 0:20:17PHONE VIBRATES

0:20:24 > 0:20:25PHONE VIBRATES

0:20:55 > 0:20:56PHONE VIBRATES

0:21:00 > 0:21:02PHONE VIBRATES

0:21:02 > 0:21:04PHONE RINGS

0:21:04 > 0:21:06Yo, what's up?

0:21:10 > 0:21:12'You just don't run into a community

0:21:12 > 0:21:16'and expect to get results within a matter of four or six months.

0:21:16 > 0:21:19'I don't have bay'ah to this mosque

0:21:19 > 0:21:21'and I don't have bay'ah to the imam either.

0:21:21 > 0:21:24'For most people, you have bay'ah to the imam.

0:21:24 > 0:21:27'That way, you can move around with them. I don't have it.

0:21:27 > 0:21:29'Even with this kid, I have to wait

0:21:29 > 0:21:32'until he opens up to say something just to find a way to get in there.'

0:21:35 > 0:21:39Exactly. All right, later.

0:21:44 > 0:21:49Some of my other places, as individuals, we have a lot in common.

0:21:49 > 0:21:56Even though this guy's a Muslim and I'm Muslim, that's as far it go.

0:21:56 > 0:21:59He and I have nothing in common at all.

0:21:59 > 0:22:03Music-wise, politics, culture - none of it.

0:22:10 > 0:22:15You said that the POI sells books. What kind of books does he sell?

0:22:15 > 0:22:16CAMERA CLICKS

0:22:16 > 0:22:20He showed me in his library books on guerrilla warfare and all that.

0:22:20 > 0:22:24The United States Army Ranger Handbook,

0:22:24 > 0:22:27of dealing with explosives,

0:22:27 > 0:22:31CAMERA CLICKS revolutionary Islamic literature,

0:22:31 > 0:22:36how to train jihadists, you know, how to fight.

0:22:36 > 0:22:41I said, "Have you ever been in a war? You ever been in the military?" "No."

0:22:41 > 0:22:44"Then how the hell do you know anything about guerrilla warfare?

0:22:44 > 0:22:48"Why do you have it there, just for show? Trying to impress people?"

0:22:53 > 0:22:56- So, who set up your Facebook account?- The FBI.

0:22:56 > 0:22:57Don't fuck with this shit.

0:22:57 > 0:23:00They're the ones pushing me to do this.

0:23:01 > 0:23:04- That'll do for now.- They should have gave you a class.- What class?

0:23:04 > 0:23:06These fuckers don't know nothing,

0:23:06 > 0:23:08all they want to do is just try to make a fucking arrest.

0:23:10 > 0:23:14Who the hell's this girl Victoria Carr, she wants to be my friend?

0:23:14 > 0:23:17"I may know you from so and so." You don't know me.

0:23:17 > 0:23:19Let me see how much I know you.

0:23:20 > 0:23:22Ohhh!

0:23:23 > 0:23:27She wants to be MY friend. Oohhhh!

0:23:29 > 0:23:33The POI, I just sent him a request cos he didn't want to answer before.

0:23:35 > 0:23:37How do I go out on this shit?

0:23:39 > 0:23:44- Have you ever gone on a target that was a friend?- Yeah, yeah, Shah.

0:23:44 > 0:23:47- Shah was my friend. - Was he a friend before...

0:23:47 > 0:23:51He was my friend, yes, he was my friend. Yes, he was.

0:23:51 > 0:23:54- Was he a friend before... - Yes, he was my friend.

0:23:54 > 0:23:56When you asked the question three times, I done told you.

0:23:56 > 0:23:59Yes, he was my friend prior to him being investigated.

0:23:59 > 0:24:01CAMERA CLICKS

0:24:05 > 0:24:10In the Shah case, you're dealing with home-grown African-American Muslims.

0:24:13 > 0:24:16His father was Captain Joseph Shah,

0:24:16 > 0:24:19who was a lieutenant with Malcolm X.

0:24:23 > 0:24:27A Florida physician and a self-described martial arts expert

0:24:27 > 0:24:29from New York are under arrest tonight,

0:24:29 > 0:24:32charged with plotting to train terrorists for al-Qaeda.

0:24:32 > 0:24:36The government says it has the pair on audio tapes swearing a bay'ah,

0:24:36 > 0:24:39an oath of allegiance to Osama Bin Laden.

0:24:39 > 0:24:42The complaint alleges Shah did most of the talking

0:24:42 > 0:24:46to a government informant wearing a wire.

0:24:46 > 0:24:49I tried to give him warning, tried to tell him certain things

0:24:49 > 0:24:50and leave things alone.

0:24:50 > 0:24:52He might have felt that he was untouchable.

0:24:52 > 0:24:54HE SCOFFS

0:24:54 > 0:24:57Prosecutors contend that Shah told a government informer

0:24:57 > 0:25:00that his work as a jazz musician was "the greatest cover".

0:25:01 > 0:25:04- CHEERING AND APPLAUSE - Tarik Shah!

0:25:08 > 0:25:12Shah was introduced to me by an agent while Shah was doing a gig.

0:25:14 > 0:25:19I went for bass lessons three times a week in his house.

0:25:20 > 0:25:21That was my front.

0:25:23 > 0:25:27And, of course, me learning these bass lessons, I'm talking with him.

0:25:27 > 0:25:32My pitch was that he could make some money

0:25:32 > 0:25:35if he makes some alliance with al-Qaeda

0:25:35 > 0:25:38and they're looking for certain individuals such as himself

0:25:38 > 0:25:42and they'd be willing to pay you for your time, you know.

0:25:42 > 0:25:45So when I fed him that line, that's when he went at it.

0:26:02 > 0:26:06It was like a bait. Threw the hook out there, he bit into it.

0:26:28 > 0:26:32This is Tarik and I at my birthday party.

0:26:32 > 0:26:35I forget, I was either 50 or 51.

0:26:35 > 0:26:39They had given me a birthday party with a stripper.

0:26:41 > 0:26:43But we will not take pictures of the stripper.

0:26:46 > 0:26:50'Tarik mentioned that he was giving this person bass lessons

0:26:50 > 0:26:53'and I didn't even know his name

0:26:53 > 0:26:56'so then when he said this particular person

0:26:56 > 0:26:58'needed a place to stay'

0:26:58 > 0:27:04and would I be willing to rent him the apartment downstairs,

0:27:04 > 0:27:07I said to Tarik, "Well, I don't know this person,"

0:27:07 > 0:27:10so he said, "Ma, I can vouch for him."

0:27:10 > 0:27:11I said, "Are you sure?"

0:27:13 > 0:27:15You know, he's doing pretty good.

0:27:17 > 0:27:20You know, as well as can be expected under the conditions.

0:27:26 > 0:27:28For ten years, we've been suffering quietly.

0:27:29 > 0:27:33They send informants into our community, we stay quiet,

0:27:33 > 0:27:36we stay afraid and that only makes their job easier.

0:27:36 > 0:27:37The longer we stay quiet,

0:27:37 > 0:27:42the more dangerous it is for our children and our future generations.

0:27:42 > 0:27:45And so this campaign will be mobilising people

0:27:45 > 0:27:49in Muslim communities, black communities, immigrant communities,

0:27:49 > 0:27:52civil rights communities, everybody together to fight the use

0:27:52 > 0:27:54of these informants and surveillance.

0:27:58 > 0:28:02I think Tarik is so hurt because he liked the brother

0:28:02 > 0:28:03and he trusted the brother.

0:28:06 > 0:28:09Tarik is such a believer in Islam

0:28:09 > 0:28:13and I think he feels that Allah will deal with him.

0:28:33 > 0:28:36Yeah, yeah. That's right.

0:28:38 > 0:28:41Come on. You want that snow? Come on, come on.

0:28:41 > 0:28:44Heel up, heel up, heel, here. Heel up.

0:28:44 > 0:28:47Stop it, don't do that.

0:28:47 > 0:28:49You make her nervous.

0:28:49 > 0:28:51She ain't going to do nothing to you.

0:28:51 > 0:28:55Hey! Hey! She done tore your coat, you see?

0:28:55 > 0:28:59Yeah, don't run after her and let her play like that cos... Hey!

0:28:59 > 0:29:03Her teeth are sharp. So you've got to tell your momma... Wow!

0:29:03 > 0:29:05She ain't going to be mad?

0:29:17 > 0:29:20- Previously on Homeland... - She wants out.

0:29:20 > 0:29:22She asked for 5 million and a flight to Detroit.

0:29:22 > 0:29:24This is not some set-up, it's real.

0:29:24 > 0:29:26An informant, married for years to a Hezbollah commander,

0:29:26 > 0:29:29turns up out of the blue...

0:29:29 > 0:29:32I thought we'd better meet her sooner rather than later.

0:29:32 > 0:29:34We were supposed to meet her together

0:29:34 > 0:29:37so you could talk to her and I could assess her reliability.

0:29:37 > 0:29:39Meaning you don't trust my judgment?

0:29:39 > 0:29:41Meaning the entire point of the protocol

0:29:41 > 0:29:43was to keep your judgment out of it.

0:29:43 > 0:29:45Carrie?

0:29:46 > 0:29:50We're going to have to get back to you.

0:29:50 > 0:29:52Saul, she seem critical to you?

0:29:52 > 0:29:54I'm not really in a position to say.

0:29:55 > 0:29:58How exactly did they train you to kind of prepare?

0:29:58 > 0:30:01They didn't train me for nothing. It's how I use the language.

0:30:01 > 0:30:04If they trained me, I would never get what I wanted to get

0:30:04 > 0:30:06because they're strictly textbook.

0:30:08 > 0:30:12There's a difference between telling somebody and making a suggestion.

0:30:12 > 0:30:16It's entrapment if I go and tell him, "Yo, come on, let's go rob a bank",

0:30:16 > 0:30:19and you know that was not his intention.

0:30:19 > 0:30:21That was my intentions, so I'm entrapping him.

0:30:21 > 0:30:24I don't make the suggestions.

0:30:24 > 0:30:28I may go to him and say, "Man, there's a lot of money in there, boy.

0:30:28 > 0:30:31"See them dropping off all that damn money?"

0:30:31 > 0:30:34And he feeds into it, and he go, "Shit, I sure like to take that."

0:30:34 > 0:30:35What about your current target?

0:30:35 > 0:30:37Are your handlers trying to suggest that you...?

0:30:37 > 0:30:38I don't suggest anything.

0:30:38 > 0:30:41I wait till, as we speak and we get to know each other,

0:30:41 > 0:30:42what we speak about.

0:30:44 > 0:30:47So when he brought up camping,

0:30:47 > 0:30:50that was my key opening right there, the door opened up for me

0:30:50 > 0:30:52to make a suggestion there.

0:30:52 > 0:30:54I say, "That's cool, man. We can all go camping."

0:30:54 > 0:30:58I say, you know, "Why don't we just go a little further?"

0:30:59 > 0:31:02"We could train, man, like we do in the military."

0:31:04 > 0:31:08I said, "Brother, you want to go and fight for the Muslim state?"

0:31:08 > 0:31:11He said, "I got to consult my sheikh."

0:31:11 > 0:31:13I said, "See, that's what's wrong with you, brother.

0:31:13 > 0:31:16"You brothers always talk that jihad stuff

0:31:16 > 0:31:18"but when somebody give you the opportunity to make a move

0:31:18 > 0:31:21"to fight for the Islam, you're not going to fight for the Islam,

0:31:21 > 0:31:24"y'all talk that talk but you won't walk the walk."

0:31:24 > 0:31:26EXPLOSION

0:31:28 > 0:31:30He's not really a good Muslim.

0:31:32 > 0:31:35We're going to get some coffee.

0:31:35 > 0:31:38That motherfucker stole the coffee grinding machine,

0:31:38 > 0:31:40he stole the coffee urn,

0:31:40 > 0:31:42and I told him straight up after he'd done,

0:31:42 > 0:31:45like, his fourth stealing, and I said, "Yo, man,

0:31:45 > 0:31:49"did you consult your sheikh and your imam when you steal all that stuff?"

0:31:52 > 0:31:53I ain't got to wear no kufi.

0:31:53 > 0:31:55I ain't got to wear no keffiyeh.

0:31:55 > 0:31:58I ain't got to wear a goddamn thing to say I'm Muslim.

0:31:58 > 0:32:02God said that shit already been established way before we was born.

0:32:04 > 0:32:09SINGING IN ARABIC

0:32:17 > 0:32:20What drew me to the Islam was more of that militant aspect.

0:32:20 > 0:32:24Not a jihadist but more of a stand-up, take no bullshit.

0:32:29 > 0:32:31Brothers and sisters,

0:32:31 > 0:32:35you must be abreast of what is happening all over the world.

0:32:35 > 0:32:36You must read.

0:32:36 > 0:32:39Your first reading is for Anne and Sunnah.

0:32:39 > 0:32:43Nice community. Nice community of brothers, man, you know what I mean?

0:32:45 > 0:32:48Some of them used to be Panthers and some used to be New African,

0:32:48 > 0:32:50you know, brothers.

0:32:51 > 0:32:54Imam Siraj, me and him used to sit down and talk.

0:32:55 > 0:32:57We were good friends.

0:32:57 > 0:32:59All the brothers were good friends. We all tight.

0:32:59 > 0:33:01It's just that inner circle.

0:33:01 > 0:33:04There's the inner circle and the outer circle.

0:33:04 > 0:33:06I was part of the security council.

0:33:10 > 0:33:13Crack at the Demigoza. It was bad, man, it was really bad.

0:33:15 > 0:33:18We was cleaning up the neighbourhood, we was cleaning up the drug dealers.

0:33:18 > 0:33:21- RADIO:- Um, suspicious-looking people...

0:33:21 > 0:33:24I provide them intel on where all the drug dealers would be at.

0:33:26 > 0:33:28I was an asset to the community.

0:33:28 > 0:33:30I loved it.

0:33:30 > 0:33:32I loved it.

0:33:45 > 0:33:49THEY SHOUT

0:33:49 > 0:33:50Good. Next!

0:33:50 > 0:33:52All right. Good.

0:33:52 > 0:33:54That's what I want to see. Keep going. Ready?

0:33:54 > 0:33:57THEY SHOUT

0:33:57 > 0:33:59When I first met Saeed, it was around the time that we were

0:33:59 > 0:34:03dealing with the drug problem here in the neighbourhood.

0:34:03 > 0:34:05We had a very good impression of him.

0:34:05 > 0:34:07You know, he was very much involved.

0:34:07 > 0:34:10He was knowledgeable about certain things.

0:34:11 > 0:34:14He has a very pleasant personality. He's very intelligent.

0:34:14 > 0:34:16Very intelligent.

0:34:16 > 0:34:18What do you think your reputation at the mosque is now?

0:34:18 > 0:34:21Oh, man, it's probably all, "I'm going to kill that motherfucker,

0:34:21 > 0:34:24"don't want to see him, going to put a bullet hole in that boy."

0:34:24 > 0:34:26I...

0:34:26 > 0:34:29broke a solemn oath against another Muslim.

0:34:29 > 0:34:32They don't give a shit if the other Muslim's bad or not.

0:34:32 > 0:34:34He's a Muslim.

0:34:39 > 0:34:41Did you know Tarik Shah?

0:34:41 > 0:34:44Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, he was part of this community too.

0:34:44 > 0:34:46His family, I mean. Beautiful brother.

0:34:46 > 0:34:48- TV:- At yesterday's arraignment,

0:34:48 > 0:34:51an upbeat but shackled Shah greeted the packed court gallery of

0:34:51 > 0:34:55supporters and press with the Arabic greeting, "May peace be upon you."

0:34:56 > 0:34:58Out of all the cases I worked on,

0:34:58 > 0:35:00that was the only one that called me to testify.

0:35:03 > 0:35:05And I worked on more than eight goddamn cases.

0:35:08 > 0:35:12A whole bunch of them come up from mosque who knows me.

0:35:12 > 0:35:15They couldn't believe it. They said, "Oh, man. That's Saeed. No..."

0:35:15 > 0:35:17"He's been with us too long."

0:35:19 > 0:35:23He saw us, but he would not look in our direction.

0:35:23 > 0:35:24He saw us, you know?

0:35:24 > 0:35:27'I don't know what's in a man's heart,

0:35:27 > 0:35:30'but how could you not feel guilty?'

0:35:30 > 0:35:32Imam Siraj put a fatwa out on me, OK?

0:35:32 > 0:35:35And I'm not going into any details about how the words was

0:35:35 > 0:35:37pronounced, how he put it in there. He put a fatwa out.

0:35:37 > 0:35:40Now, y'all are journalists. Y'all know what a fatwa is.

0:35:40 > 0:35:42I ain't going to tell you exactly what words he used cos

0:35:42 > 0:35:44I don't know exactly what words.

0:35:44 > 0:35:47I'm getting it from people I know who already told me.

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0:36:53 > 0:36:56One thing about the government, the government will use you

0:36:56 > 0:37:00and they will drop your ass like a hot motherfucking stone.

0:37:01 > 0:37:04And don't be a motherfucking convict

0:37:04 > 0:37:06or they really get over on you then.

0:37:11 > 0:37:14I spent all my money this week, man. Ain't that a bitch?

0:37:17 > 0:37:19That's 11.

0:37:21 > 0:37:22This is all I got, man.

0:37:22 > 0:37:24Would you consider this full-time work?

0:37:24 > 0:37:28They consider it full-time. I don't see no full-time money.

0:37:28 > 0:37:30What would you say your services are worth?

0:37:30 > 0:37:34My services need to be at least over 3,500.

0:37:34 > 0:37:35What are you basing that rate on?

0:37:35 > 0:37:38I'm basing it on my investigation techniques.

0:37:38 > 0:37:41Infiltrating some radical fucking group

0:37:41 > 0:37:43that they're not even sure about.

0:37:43 > 0:37:46Now, the only way I could push their fucking wig back is

0:37:46 > 0:37:48unless I just tell them I'm out of here.

0:37:48 > 0:37:50Cos I'm not going to bust my ass.

0:37:50 > 0:37:52You got me waking up at 5 o'clock in the fucking morning

0:37:52 > 0:37:53chasing a fucking ghost.

0:38:00 > 0:38:03- Answer the phone,- BLEEP!

0:38:03 > 0:38:05Hello.

0:38:05 > 0:38:08- Hey,- BLEEP,- I see you. You see me?

0:38:08 > 0:38:09Yeah.

0:38:09 > 0:38:11Oh, OK.

0:38:12 > 0:38:14Look at him.

0:38:14 > 0:38:17INAUDIBLE

0:38:17 > 0:38:19Just like his daddy.

0:38:19 > 0:38:21His teeth fell out?

0:38:21 > 0:38:22Yes.

0:38:22 > 0:38:25Oh, it's growing back, though, right?

0:38:25 > 0:38:27Yeah.

0:38:27 > 0:38:28OK.

0:38:29 > 0:38:31I love you!

0:38:39 > 0:38:44Living this type of life, man, you lose out on a lot of shit, man.

0:38:44 > 0:38:46Family life....

0:38:47 > 0:38:48..your social life.

0:39:04 > 0:39:07Do you think your present right now is in any way related to your past?

0:39:07 > 0:39:10What I done in the past, I don't even like to bring it back up.

0:39:10 > 0:39:12I really don't.

0:39:14 > 0:39:16You know, even if you try to bounce back,

0:39:16 > 0:39:19even to make amends for the things you may have done.

0:39:24 > 0:39:27Got to deal with it, man. Got to deal with it.

0:39:27 > 0:39:29Got to deal with it.

0:39:35 > 0:39:38I was a revolutionary. Revolutionary activist,

0:39:38 > 0:39:40like Robin Hood.

0:39:43 > 0:39:46I was with a certain crew that was, uh,

0:39:46 > 0:39:51setting up certain institutions to be appropriated for our cause.

0:39:53 > 0:39:55Postal Service,

0:39:55 > 0:39:57banks,

0:39:57 > 0:39:58New York City Transit.

0:40:01 > 0:40:05So all we do is just ex-appropriate it back to other people, the masses.

0:40:13 > 0:40:19We used to drop off a few money and stuff at the mosque, you know?

0:40:19 > 0:40:23Wouldn't tell nobody where we got it from, you know what I mean?

0:40:23 > 0:40:28I hung out with a lot of transit cops, court officers and all that.

0:40:28 > 0:40:32I did that for the purpose of them assuming that I was one of them.

0:40:34 > 0:40:37Then all my shit just crumbled down and I got...

0:40:37 > 0:40:40I got caught out in the end and got arrested.

0:40:41 > 0:40:44Yeah, I was charged with grand larceny,

0:40:44 > 0:40:47impersonation of a New York City Transit cop,

0:40:47 > 0:40:50and possession of weapons.

0:40:51 > 0:40:54When were you first approached by the FBI?

0:40:54 > 0:40:56Oh, I was approached, man, when I was arrested.

0:40:56 > 0:40:59So the guy's, "OK, we tell you what.

0:40:59 > 0:41:03"Here's our card.

0:41:03 > 0:41:06"You need something, you let us know. Now, you want to make a deal?

0:41:06 > 0:41:09"You facing 20 years right now as it is."

0:41:09 > 0:41:12And I said, "Damn, 20 fucking years in the fed."

0:41:12 > 0:41:15So I said, "Fuck it."

0:41:15 > 0:41:17I called them in.

0:41:17 > 0:41:20Said, "Yeah, what do you want to speak on, man?"

0:41:20 > 0:41:23SIRENS BLARE

0:41:25 > 0:41:28After the World Trade Center, they felt that certain Muslim

0:41:28 > 0:41:31communities, domestically, was involved.

0:41:32 > 0:41:36I happened to know the blind sheikh that was part of the security detail.

0:41:36 > 0:41:40So they felt that I knew the routine, which I didn't, really.

0:41:45 > 0:41:48So how often would they come and ask you for intelligence?

0:41:48 > 0:41:50Oh, it'd be, like, three times a week.

0:41:50 > 0:41:53So I was their boy all the way until the time I came out.

0:42:27 > 0:42:31After 9/11, I got a call. They said, "Look, come by and talk."

0:42:31 > 0:42:33I said, "OK."

0:42:33 > 0:42:36I opened the door and he came in. He had another agent with him.

0:42:39 > 0:42:41They asked me to come with them full-time.

0:42:43 > 0:42:46They just wanted to recruit me and shit, get me signed up and say,

0:42:46 > 0:42:48"Welcome aboard," you know?

0:42:48 > 0:42:51This was clandestine shit, you know?

0:42:51 > 0:42:54Covert operation bullshit, you know? It exists.

0:42:54 > 0:42:56You know what I mean?

0:43:26 > 0:43:28PHONE VIBRATES

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0:43:38 > 0:43:42Truthfully speaking, y'all got him thinking that he's, like,

0:43:42 > 0:43:44the top-notch terrorist around here.

0:43:44 > 0:43:47That he just can't be touched, he's untouchable.

0:43:47 > 0:43:51But in reality, he ain't nothing. He ain't going nowhere.

0:43:51 > 0:43:54I never been around a target that steals petty.

0:43:54 > 0:43:56I mean, being a Muslim at that.

0:43:56 > 0:43:59That's not acceptable. I mean, that's petty.

0:44:01 > 0:44:03OK. All right. Bye.

0:44:05 > 0:44:07I'm not feeling this, man.

0:44:07 > 0:44:10This is the first time I ever felt like this.

0:44:10 > 0:44:13As long as I've been doing this work, I never felt this.

0:44:13 > 0:44:16So your instinct says this one just isn't right?

0:44:16 > 0:44:20Not right that he'd do me bodily harm but because he's unpredictable.

0:44:21 > 0:44:23He ain't the brightest.

0:44:23 > 0:44:25But he ain't the dumbest, either.

0:44:58 > 0:45:00- All right. You ready? - Yeah.

0:45:01 > 0:45:05My name is Khalifah Al-Akili,

0:45:05 > 0:45:07from Pittsburgh.

0:45:07 > 0:45:11In 1991, I accepted Islam, took shahada.

0:45:12 > 0:45:15What was the religion that you were born into?

0:45:15 > 0:45:20Well, we're all born Muslim, but I was raised protestant.

0:45:23 > 0:45:28Islam teaches us how to rectify our inner self,

0:45:28 > 0:45:30which the Prophet Muhammad

0:45:30 > 0:45:32said is the greatest jihad.

0:45:32 > 0:45:34The word "jihad", it simply means struggle.

0:45:34 > 0:45:37And the greatest jihad that every believer, man and woman, will

0:45:37 > 0:45:43go through is that inner struggle against our lower, bestial desires.

0:45:43 > 0:45:46The more things that we do as Muslims, the more

0:45:46 > 0:45:49of a closer relationship that we can have with our creator.

0:45:55 > 0:45:56Turn this up...

0:46:02 > 0:46:04VOICEMAIL: Uh, just let me know cos I

0:46:04 > 0:46:07text you and you never replied to the text.

0:46:07 > 0:46:09I don't know if you're sleeping or what.

0:46:09 > 0:46:11But if you get this message, give me a call, please.

0:46:11 > 0:46:14Insha'Allah.

0:46:22 > 0:46:24He was always talking about the cause,

0:46:24 > 0:46:26the cause, the cause, you know?

0:46:26 > 0:46:28And, you know, some guys pray, other guys fight.

0:46:28 > 0:46:32ASA, which means as-salamu alaikum, Brother K, check this movie,

0:46:32 > 0:46:34it's a series called Homeland.

0:46:34 > 0:46:36About terrorists, right?

0:46:36 > 0:46:41Which I actually did and I actually enjoyed it, but... Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:46:41 > 0:46:46But, yeah, but it was like it was to help him talk about that topic.

0:46:49 > 0:46:51I was coming back from the store and...

0:46:51 > 0:46:55Shariff's truck came around the corner, so I waved at him,

0:46:55 > 0:46:59and he stops the truck and the passenger side opens up...

0:47:01 > 0:47:02They bum-rushed it.

0:47:04 > 0:47:07The bureau brings in another CHS.

0:47:07 > 0:47:08What's a CHS?

0:47:08 > 0:47:11It's a confidential human source.

0:47:11 > 0:47:13And then he turns out to be Muhammad.

0:47:16 > 0:47:19All I was supposed to do was introduce him to Khalifah,

0:47:19 > 0:47:22and just let him know, I have an individual Muslim coming in.

0:47:22 > 0:47:26He's a recruiter for the Taliban, or he's a recruiter for the al-Qaeda.

0:47:26 > 0:47:30You know, he's a good brother, you know? Maybe y'all should meet.

0:47:30 > 0:47:32Short and simple.

0:47:32 > 0:47:35Before I could even introduce the fucking dude to the fucking POI,

0:47:35 > 0:47:39this motherfucker was jumping out my car ready just to meet him.

0:47:39 > 0:47:41I'm like, "What the fuck?"

0:47:41 > 0:47:44That guy got out and he came up to me

0:47:44 > 0:47:47and gave me the greeting of "as-salamu alaikum",

0:47:47 > 0:47:50kissed me on both cheeks and I swear to you,

0:47:50 > 0:47:52when I walked away from that situation,

0:47:52 > 0:47:55I walked away feeling like I'd just played a part in some

0:47:55 > 0:47:56Hollywood terrorist movie,

0:47:56 > 0:48:01like I'd just met the leader of some terrorist organisation.

0:48:01 > 0:48:04Actually, right there on the spot, he wanted to go have some coffee

0:48:04 > 0:48:08or sit down with me and I told him, "No," you know?

0:48:08 > 0:48:11"I still have to go visit my mother and I'm actually on my way

0:48:11 > 0:48:13"there, getting ready to catch the bus to go there."

0:48:13 > 0:48:16I walked away. He got back in the truck.

0:48:16 > 0:48:18They still wanted me to proceed.

0:48:19 > 0:48:23I told them, "Man, I don't feel right going into that man's house, man."

0:48:23 > 0:48:26Enquiring, "What's up?" You know,

0:48:26 > 0:48:29and he just finished telling me that more than 20 minutes ago.

0:48:29 > 0:48:31He was at his mother's house.

0:48:32 > 0:48:35"Oh, tell them that Muhammad got a card for his mother,"

0:48:35 > 0:48:38and everything going to be all right,

0:48:38 > 0:48:40so, "We didn't realise you were there,

0:48:40 > 0:48:43"we just heard some noise so we knocked."

0:48:43 > 0:48:45So I said, "Really?

0:48:45 > 0:48:48"Really? That sounds real deep undercover, huh?

0:48:48 > 0:48:50"Real deep."

0:48:50 > 0:48:52I said, "I'm not going to feel too comfortable with that,

0:48:52 > 0:48:55"but I'm going to do it anyway, but I'm letting y'all know,

0:48:55 > 0:48:59"when you fuck up, don't come at me and say it was my fault.

0:48:59 > 0:49:00"I ain't hearing it."

0:49:02 > 0:49:05Next thing I know, he was at the front door.

0:49:05 > 0:49:08He hit a code on the keypad at the entrance to

0:49:08 > 0:49:12come into the building and I had it set up to ring to my cellphone.

0:49:13 > 0:49:17Now, I've never had any visitors just pop up at my apartment

0:49:17 > 0:49:20unannounced so I answered it and...

0:49:20 > 0:49:22I was like, "Khalifah, it's me, Shariff."

0:49:22 > 0:49:25He said, "Who? Who? Who? Who?"

0:49:25 > 0:49:26It was Shariff.

0:49:26 > 0:49:29Shariff was saying, "Oh, I'm here with Muhammad and we figured that

0:49:29 > 0:49:34"we'd come and see you and sit down with you, spend some time."

0:49:34 > 0:49:38I said, "Well, I'm not at home." I lied and said, "I'm not at home."

0:49:40 > 0:49:43It was so clear that I didn't want to meet these guys.

0:49:43 > 0:49:44Like, seriously, like,

0:49:44 > 0:49:47I literally made up excuse after excuse after excuse.

0:49:50 > 0:49:53The next morning, I walked up here to the corner.

0:49:53 > 0:49:55And that's when, you know,

0:49:55 > 0:49:58quote-unquote Muhammad came from around the corner.

0:49:58 > 0:50:00You know, just appeared out of nowhere.

0:50:00 > 0:50:03You know, he had his hotel downtown Pittsburgh

0:50:03 > 0:50:06and yet he was here in Wilkinsburg

0:50:06 > 0:50:09at 9.30 in the morning without no car, no vehicle.

0:50:09 > 0:50:13He just so happened to have that card for my mother on him.

0:50:16 > 0:50:18I reluctantly agreed to go to McDonald's

0:50:18 > 0:50:21and, you know, have some coffee with him.

0:50:26 > 0:50:30The morning that we all came in here,

0:50:30 > 0:50:33we actually sat at this first booth right here

0:50:33 > 0:50:35and that's whenever he began to talk about

0:50:35 > 0:50:39his people being involved in jihad and whatnot and fighting.

0:50:39 > 0:50:43This was the location that we sat down and had the coffee with him.

0:50:43 > 0:50:47So we exchanged numbers and actually that morning, he drove me home.

0:50:47 > 0:50:49After that, I didn't hear anything from him.

0:50:52 > 0:50:53Taliban?

0:50:53 > 0:50:56- You know what that means - Taliban? - Not a damn thing.

0:50:56 > 0:50:58Oh, yeah? It means student.

0:50:58 > 0:50:59- Student of knowledge. - OK.

0:50:59 > 0:51:01Ain't nothing wrong with them, brother.

0:51:01 > 0:51:04- Well, I ain't said nothing wrong with them.- OK.

0:51:04 > 0:51:07The wearing of the turban has been in existence thousands of years

0:51:07 > 0:51:09before the Taliban was even formulated

0:51:09 > 0:51:11in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

0:51:11 > 0:51:14- Oh, OK. - Yeah, my father's a Muslim.

0:51:15 > 0:51:17Actually, Allah's just the Arabic name for God.

0:51:17 > 0:51:19Christians and Jews that speak Arabic...

0:51:24 > 0:51:25PHONE VIBRATES

0:51:28 > 0:51:30PHONE VIBRATES

0:51:44 > 0:51:46It's like my third time.

0:51:47 > 0:51:49"You can no longer message..."

0:51:49 > 0:51:52So he said, "All right, you can no longer..."

0:51:54 > 0:51:57So that means he doesn't want to correspond with me.

0:51:57 > 0:52:01See, these motherfuckers, they fucked up.

0:52:01 > 0:52:05Watch this. I'm going to call these motherfuckers and let them know.

0:52:08 > 0:52:09Yo, Jay.

0:52:09 > 0:52:13I don't know what's going on. He didn't block me for the knife.

0:52:13 > 0:52:14He knew that was me.

0:52:18 > 0:52:20All right, OK.

0:52:20 > 0:52:22All right, later.

0:52:24 > 0:52:26You know, they fucked up there.

0:52:26 > 0:52:28I'm not even going to deal with that.

0:52:28 > 0:52:30Let them deal with the headaches.

0:52:30 > 0:52:32PHONE VIBRATES

0:52:41 > 0:52:43PHONE VIBRATES

0:53:12 > 0:53:13DOG WHINES

0:53:13 > 0:53:15Shut up!

0:53:15 > 0:53:19Fucking piss me off today with your bullshit!

0:53:20 > 0:53:23I mean, I could have set him up. Just take a fucking handgun

0:53:23 > 0:53:26and just put it somewhere and say, "Yo, you all, I'm calling the locals,

0:53:26 > 0:53:28"have the locals grab you right now."

0:53:28 > 0:53:30Boom, he got a gun. And, yeah, it's all over with.

0:53:30 > 0:53:33But they don't want to do it that way.

0:53:33 > 0:53:35And I told them, I said, "I'm not here to entrap nobody."

0:53:35 > 0:53:39They're trying to make me force this dude

0:53:39 > 0:53:42into saying something...

0:53:42 > 0:53:44to support terrorism.

0:53:44 > 0:53:48I said, "The dude is not a fucking terrorist, man.

0:53:48 > 0:53:50"He's not even a pseudo-terrorist.

0:53:50 > 0:53:53"He's nothing but an oxymoron."

0:53:53 > 0:53:56I said, "What you all been doing for the last three years?

0:53:56 > 0:53:57"You all just seeing nothing.

0:53:57 > 0:54:00"If you all ain't seeing, what do you all expect me to see?"

0:54:00 > 0:54:01PHONE VIBRATES

0:54:13 > 0:54:14DOORBELL RINGS

0:54:14 > 0:54:15Fuck.

0:54:15 > 0:54:17Fuck, man.

0:54:29 > 0:54:31You rang my bell?

0:54:31 > 0:54:33- Huh?- Sorry.

0:54:33 > 0:54:35- Happy birthday.- Thank you.

0:54:37 > 0:54:40- Thank you.- I'm going to get you something next month, OK?

0:54:40 > 0:54:42- OK.- All right?- Yeah.

0:54:42 > 0:54:45All right, tell your momma I said hello.

0:54:48 > 0:54:50Hm...

0:54:50 > 0:54:51Nobody rings my bell.

0:54:51 > 0:54:55I don't expect it. I don't have company here.

0:54:55 > 0:54:58When that bell rings, I'm on my p's and q's.

0:54:58 > 0:55:01And believe it or not,

0:55:01 > 0:55:03if I think you're a threat to me,

0:55:03 > 0:55:06I will liquidate you with extreme prejudice.

0:55:08 > 0:55:12HE COUGHS AND SPLUTTERS

0:55:19 > 0:55:22MOBILE PHONE RINGS

0:55:24 > 0:55:28I honestly believe that that incident with that guy,

0:55:28 > 0:55:31that that agent brought up,

0:55:31 > 0:55:33if he hadn't have did what he did,

0:55:33 > 0:55:36believe me, this thing could have weighed a little further. Right.

0:55:36 > 0:55:38Yeah, he sensed things.

0:55:38 > 0:55:42So I shouldn't have to wait for him, even if it came to exposing me.

0:55:42 > 0:55:45And I don't want to be put in that situation.

0:55:45 > 0:55:49So I definitely have to stay under the radar to a certain extent.

0:55:49 > 0:55:53But that dude ain't going to bust a grape.

0:55:53 > 0:55:56He ain't going to throw rice at a wedding, believe me. You know?

0:55:56 > 0:55:58He's just, you know...

0:55:58 > 0:56:01Eventually, y'all may get him on something else.

0:56:01 > 0:56:03Maybe tax fraud.

0:56:03 > 0:56:06Crossing state lines.

0:56:06 > 0:56:07You know?

0:56:07 > 0:56:08But I think it's just the Bureau's

0:56:08 > 0:56:11going to have to take a different approach at him.

0:56:11 > 0:56:13It may have to go at him hardcore

0:56:13 > 0:56:15and just get him for the hell of it, you know what I mean?

0:56:15 > 0:56:17Black ball trick.

0:56:20 > 0:56:22OK. All right.

0:56:22 > 0:56:24I'll talk to you later, then. All right. Later.

0:56:25 > 0:56:27And I'm out of here.

0:56:28 > 0:56:30Right now, I'm looking at a projection of me

0:56:30 > 0:56:32being with my fucking son.

0:56:38 > 0:56:40Shariff left me alone in his truck.

0:56:40 > 0:56:41And when he did that,

0:56:41 > 0:56:45there was a letter sitting on the dashboard from the welfare office.

0:56:45 > 0:56:47So I picked it up and I snapped a picture of it,

0:56:47 > 0:56:49because I knew he was FBI.

0:56:49 > 0:56:51I wanted to know who this guy was.

0:56:51 > 0:56:53And his real name is Saeed S Torres.

0:56:59 > 0:57:01Come on, Sheba.

0:57:01 > 0:57:02Come on.

0:57:02 > 0:57:06This was a guy who used to e-mail me all the time.

0:57:06 > 0:57:10Call me, you know, "Let's go out for coffee. I'll pick you up."

0:57:10 > 0:57:14But a lot of that slowed down dramatically

0:57:14 > 0:57:18after he'd introduced me to this "Mohammed".

0:57:18 > 0:57:21I put his phone number into Google.

0:57:28 > 0:57:31Anyone should be wanted for the things they do.

0:57:31 > 0:57:32That's him.

0:57:32 > 0:57:35..by Allah or the organisation that does these things.

0:57:37 > 0:57:40Mohammed, he was an informer for the FBI.

0:57:40 > 0:57:43And his real name is Shahed Hussain.

0:57:43 > 0:57:46I felt that I was almost obligated to expose these guys.

0:57:46 > 0:57:49Sheba, Sheba, Sheba, go, go, please.

0:57:49 > 0:57:51I sent out an e-mail, very blatantly,

0:57:51 > 0:57:54with the subject, "FBI informers".

0:57:54 > 0:57:57There's hundreds of people on this e-mail list.

0:57:57 > 0:57:58I told anybody,

0:57:58 > 0:58:02if anybody wants to question me about this, they can do so.

0:58:05 > 0:58:07Shariff, he's gone.

0:58:07 > 0:58:09He's moved out completely, like out of the clear blue.

0:58:21 > 0:58:23PHONE RINGS

0:58:23 > 0:58:24Hello?

0:58:24 > 0:58:28Yes. Khalifah, how are you? This is Steve Downs.

0:58:28 > 0:58:29Good. I'm very good.

0:58:29 > 0:58:32And I just wanted to make sure you understand that some people

0:58:32 > 0:58:35may be listening in on this line, though. The FBI.

0:58:36 > 0:58:38OK.

0:58:38 > 0:58:43So, anyway, I just wanted to go over your statement.

0:58:43 > 0:58:47You first met Shariff in September, October of 2011.

0:58:47 > 0:58:49Yes. Somewhere around that time.

0:58:49 > 0:58:50Mm-hm.

0:58:50 > 0:58:53'Khalifah found out about our group Project SALAM on the internet

0:58:53 > 0:58:55'and sent us this e-mail.

0:58:55 > 0:58:58'What really was striking about this e-mail

0:58:58 > 0:59:00'was that it was so detailed and so specific

0:59:00 > 0:59:04'and that, through a series of googles and telephones and stuff,'

0:59:04 > 0:59:08he had so cleverly caught the FBI trying to catch him.

0:59:08 > 0:59:11I've never seen a case quite like that.

0:59:28 > 0:59:29I just wanted to...

0:59:29 > 0:59:31Well, one of the things that we were thinking about

0:59:31 > 0:59:36is that we would like to have a press conference down in Washington.

0:59:36 > 0:59:38And that may be next Thursday.

0:59:38 > 0:59:41And call attention to all of this and make a big deal about it

0:59:41 > 0:59:43and really call the FBI out on it.

0:59:43 > 0:59:45Are you comfortable with that?

0:59:50 > 0:59:53My only concern is that I don't want them retaliating against you,

0:59:53 > 0:59:56simply because they couldn't put a case together.

0:59:56 > 0:59:59But I think sometimes,

0:59:59 > 1:00:02simply going public with it, the way you have and notifying everybody,

1:00:02 > 1:00:04is the best way to head it off. So...

1:00:09 > 1:00:10Right.

1:00:11 > 1:00:13PHONE VIBRATES

1:00:18 > 1:00:19PHONE VIBRATES

1:00:25 > 1:00:27PHONE VIBRATES

1:00:34 > 1:00:35You all exposed me.

1:00:35 > 1:00:37You all put me on the goddamn line

1:00:37 > 1:00:40and left me out there hanging to dry.

1:00:41 > 1:00:44Initially, when I did this contract with you all,

1:00:44 > 1:00:46if I didn't feel right about something, I wouldn't go and do it.

1:00:46 > 1:00:49But you're all forcing my hand to go and do it.

1:00:49 > 1:00:51You exposed me one time already

1:00:51 > 1:00:53and I lost all my friends out of New York.

1:00:53 > 1:00:57I lost everybody I grew up with and everything because of your bullshit.

1:01:00 > 1:01:02- ANSWERPHONE:- First saved message.

1:01:02 > 1:01:07Received March 9th at 4.50pm.

1:01:44 > 1:01:46But you see what I'm saying?

1:01:46 > 1:01:48I'm heading home.

1:01:48 > 1:01:51And you see what they still ask of me?

1:01:51 > 1:01:55Go to the fucking limbs, let my fucking bones crumble.

1:02:04 > 1:02:09I've got a meeting with my attorney.

1:02:09 > 1:02:13I'm hoping that today the lawyer will be able to assist me

1:02:13 > 1:02:16in giving me some advice on what I need to do to protect myself

1:02:16 > 1:02:18and to protect my family

1:02:18 > 1:02:22in the case that, if something was to happen to me,

1:02:22 > 1:02:25that I was to be snatched off the street.

1:02:32 > 1:02:34Can you think of anything else unusual

1:02:34 > 1:02:38that's happened in the past year, people following you?

1:02:38 > 1:02:41Just yesterday, me and my wife went to Jamil's Global Village

1:02:41 > 1:02:44in East Liberty.

1:02:44 > 1:02:47And as soon as I walked in there, like, not even a minute later,

1:02:47 > 1:02:49this guy walks in. He's on a phone.

1:02:49 > 1:02:53And there's some clothing, like, directly in front of the door.

1:02:53 > 1:02:57He came in and he felt the sleeve of one of the clothes

1:02:57 > 1:02:59and he was like, "Oh, this is nice material."

1:02:59 > 1:03:03And then we were joking with him, actually, rubbed on his shirt

1:03:03 > 1:03:05and said, "You got a nice shirt on, too."

1:03:05 > 1:03:07And it was so clear that this man had a bulletproof vest on.

1:03:07 > 1:03:11For some reason, they're just attracted to you.

1:03:12 > 1:03:15I don't think anything is going to happen for a while.

1:03:15 > 1:03:17Based on what you've told me...

1:03:18 > 1:03:21..it would be hard for them to indict you right now,

1:03:21 > 1:03:24based on what we think they know.

1:03:24 > 1:03:25But they might try.

1:03:25 > 1:03:28If they do come to your house,

1:03:28 > 1:03:30they'll come, you know, late at night

1:03:30 > 1:03:32- or early in the morning.- Right.

1:03:37 > 1:03:40The fact that they haven't already arrested me,

1:03:40 > 1:03:43they obviously don't really have anything on me

1:03:43 > 1:03:46and so they're still trying.

1:03:46 > 1:03:49But you never know, you know? Just you never know.

1:03:52 > 1:03:54As far as I know, I mean, Allah knows best,

1:03:54 > 1:03:56but I haven't seen anyone following me today.

1:04:07 > 1:04:09Why do we have to live in fear?

1:04:09 > 1:04:13Why does my family have to live in fear every day now?

1:04:13 > 1:04:15Whenever I walk out, my wife's wondering, you know,

1:04:15 > 1:04:17is her husband going to return?

1:04:20 > 1:04:23You know, I have a nine-month-old baby.

1:04:23 > 1:04:26and my wife now, like,

1:04:26 > 1:04:28she don't have no family in this country at all.

1:04:28 > 1:04:32So if something happens to me, you know,

1:04:32 > 1:04:33where does that leave my family?

1:04:56 > 1:04:57No.

1:05:14 > 1:05:16I haven't done anything to anybody!

1:05:16 > 1:05:18Muhammad said,

1:05:18 > 1:05:23"Beware of the supplication of the person who is unjustly treated."

1:05:23 > 1:05:26This is wrong. I haven't done anything to anyone.

1:05:29 > 1:05:32Can you please try and get a hold of somebody to help my wife, please?

1:05:32 > 1:05:34Please, man.

1:05:52 > 1:05:54Investigators are questioning a man

1:05:54 > 1:05:57after the FBI raided his Wilkinsburg home.

1:05:57 > 1:05:58What they found inside

1:05:58 > 1:06:02has forced them to launch a major investigation.

1:06:02 > 1:06:06He told friends he wanted to join the Taliban and die like a martyr.

1:06:06 > 1:06:08But he ran from the FBI.

1:06:08 > 1:06:10The Pittsburgh FBI SWAT team, though,

1:06:10 > 1:06:14took him down moments later in front of his Wilkinsburg apartment

1:06:14 > 1:06:17and now the Feds tonight are looking to see just what level

1:06:17 > 1:06:19of anti-American he might be.

1:06:19 > 1:06:23Ali Al-Akili, also known as James Marvin Thomas Jr,

1:06:23 > 1:06:25was in possession of jihadist literature

1:06:25 > 1:06:28and literature on the US military and its tactics

1:06:28 > 1:06:30and that he promoted guerrilla violence

1:06:30 > 1:06:32against the US armed forces.

1:06:32 > 1:06:36Now, tonight there is no hard evidence, according to the Feds,

1:06:36 > 1:06:39that the suspect took any action against United States.

1:06:39 > 1:06:43But this investigation of this suspect and his friends

1:06:43 > 1:06:44is far from over.

1:06:48 > 1:06:49Hey, little man!

1:06:51 > 1:06:54Go on, hey, get your hands up. Don't you know how to fight yet?

1:06:54 > 1:06:57Yeah, I know, you've got your little pretty face.

1:07:00 > 1:07:02You OK?

1:07:03 > 1:07:05Your daddy's here now.

1:07:07 > 1:07:09Wow.

1:07:09 > 1:07:11It's good to be home, man. It's really good.

1:07:22 > 1:07:24Project SALAM received this e-mail

1:07:24 > 1:07:27from Khalifah,

1:07:27 > 1:07:29in which he identified two informers -

1:07:29 > 1:07:32Shahed Hussain and Saeed Torres.

1:07:32 > 1:07:34He decided to hold a press conference

1:07:34 > 1:07:38on Thursday, the day before the FBI arrested him.

1:07:38 > 1:07:40And what did they arrest him on?

1:07:40 > 1:07:42On a gun charge.

1:07:42 > 1:07:44The gun charge was apparently based on the fact

1:07:44 > 1:07:47that he had gone to a public shooting range

1:07:47 > 1:07:50and made a video of it, which he posted on his Facebook.

1:07:50 > 1:07:53And it has been on his page for at least six months.

1:07:53 > 1:07:56Now, why time it to be exactly the day that he says,

1:07:56 > 1:07:58"I'm going to go to a press conference

1:07:58 > 1:08:01"and I'm going to explain that I don't want to be involved

1:08:01 > 1:08:03"in any terrorism act

1:08:03 > 1:08:05"and I wish the FBI would stop trying to press me into it."

1:08:05 > 1:08:09If the mosque comes to the FBI and says "We suspect this person,"

1:08:09 > 1:08:13is the FBI under any obligation to say, "Yeah, that's an informant"?

1:08:13 > 1:08:15Just on the legal question,

1:08:15 > 1:08:17the Bureau has no legal requirement

1:08:17 > 1:08:20to tell either the targets of investigations

1:08:20 > 1:08:22or anyone related to them about informants.

1:08:22 > 1:08:24Interestingly, it's also never told Congress about the standards

1:08:24 > 1:08:26under which it sends people to do this work,

1:08:26 > 1:08:30which has really impeded any opportunity for oversight.

1:08:30 > 1:08:34The FBI routinely uses informants to contrive cases

1:08:34 > 1:08:37and criminalise First Amendment-protected activity.

1:08:37 > 1:08:39And this is the same pattern that emerges

1:08:39 > 1:08:41in case after case after case.

1:09:04 > 1:09:07Tarik may be guilty. But you know what? Of talking.

1:09:09 > 1:09:12In the whole thing, there was nothing about any weapons,

1:09:12 > 1:09:13no bar...

1:09:13 > 1:09:15Not nothing. Nothing.

1:09:15 > 1:09:16Talk.

1:09:19 > 1:09:22You want to wear those sneakers or your other sneakers?

1:09:22 > 1:09:24You want to wear those?

1:09:25 > 1:09:29This was all because of his child support payment.

1:09:30 > 1:09:35They had Tarik owing 70,000, 80,000.

1:09:37 > 1:09:39They knew that he was struggling.

1:09:39 > 1:09:41Who are "they"?

1:09:41 > 1:09:45Saeed knew that he was struggling with his payments.

1:09:46 > 1:09:49I'm still making child-support payments for him.

1:09:51 > 1:09:52And he's in prison.

1:09:58 > 1:10:02Now, he felt desperate and he said, "I'll do anything."

1:10:02 > 1:10:04And that's when they said, "We got him."

1:10:04 > 1:10:07Now, you go and explain to him that, since he feels so down and stuff,

1:10:07 > 1:10:09you've got some people that will help him.

1:10:09 > 1:10:12Because he started saying he'd do desperate things.

1:10:12 > 1:10:13And that's all they wanted him to say.

1:10:19 > 1:10:21If you knew how everything would have turned out,

1:10:21 > 1:10:23both for you and for Tarik,

1:10:23 > 1:10:26- would you have done anything differently?- No.

1:10:29 > 1:10:31I'm not in control of this.

1:10:31 > 1:10:33They are in control of it.

1:10:35 > 1:10:37Who are "they"?

1:10:37 > 1:10:39The agents, man. Come on!

1:10:39 > 1:10:41Don't play with no word games with me.

1:10:41 > 1:10:43Who else is "they"? Who else am I speaking of?

1:10:51 > 1:10:55This is not something new that is happening.

1:10:55 > 1:10:57I mean, these are things

1:10:57 > 1:10:59that Malcolm used to talk about in the '60s.

1:10:59 > 1:11:01He used to just always say,

1:11:01 > 1:11:04"Be very careful of who you are speaking to,

1:11:04 > 1:11:10"because I know that there are FBI informants that are Muslims."

1:11:17 > 1:11:20The Quran says to enjoin good,

1:11:20 > 1:11:23not to solicit or not to coerce and to do the wrong.

1:11:23 > 1:11:26That's a major defilation of Quranic teachings,

1:11:26 > 1:11:30you know, to encourage people to do wrong and that's what he was doing.

1:11:30 > 1:11:32One of his fears is that someone in this mosque

1:11:32 > 1:11:34may have issued a fatwa against him.

1:11:34 > 1:11:35No!

1:11:35 > 1:11:38Saeed, he knows better.

1:11:38 > 1:11:41Nobody put a fatwa on Saeed. Nobody.

1:11:46 > 1:11:51I seen him personally at one of the African street festivals.

1:11:51 > 1:11:53I just stayed away from him.

1:12:04 > 1:12:08- WOMAN'S VOICE:- Hello. This is a prepaid collect call from...

1:12:08 > 1:12:13- Khalifah- ..at Northeast Ohio Correctional Center.

1:12:13 > 1:12:17This call is subject to recordings and monitoring.

1:12:57 > 1:13:00- WOMAN'S VOICE:- Thank you for using Secure Call. Goodbye.

1:13:10 > 1:13:12I've been unemployed.

1:13:12 > 1:13:15You know, it's been kind of rough.

1:13:17 > 1:13:19The local jobs here, for some reason,

1:13:19 > 1:13:22it seems like they just want their own kind.

1:13:22 > 1:13:25I don't see too many Irish bars hiring any black cooks,

1:13:25 > 1:13:27you know what I mean?

1:13:27 > 1:13:29Other than that, I have no other resources.

1:13:29 > 1:13:34I'm telling you how I'm trying to maintain this family.

1:13:34 > 1:13:37When's the last time you heard from someone in the Bureau?

1:13:37 > 1:13:39It's been a while.

1:13:39 > 1:13:41Months.

1:13:41 > 1:13:45I should have never, you know, even considered dealing with them.

1:13:45 > 1:13:46You know what I mean?

1:13:47 > 1:13:50I mean, it's...

1:13:50 > 1:13:52It's chaotic. I don't have words for it at this moment.

1:13:52 > 1:13:53I really don't.

1:13:53 > 1:13:56I believe you caused what happened at Pittsburgh,

1:13:56 > 1:13:59I'm getting all kinds of shit rolled down on me.

1:13:59 > 1:14:01You know?

1:14:01 > 1:14:04- But if Khalifah was arrested, wasn't Pittsburgh a success?- No.

1:14:04 > 1:14:05Why not?

1:14:05 > 1:14:09Because it was not what they wanted him for.

1:14:09 > 1:14:12Rough life, man. Rough life.

1:14:12 > 1:14:15Sometimes, I think I don't know if I made the right decision or what.

1:14:27 > 1:14:31I guess I should really, really...

1:14:33 > 1:14:35..hate him.

1:14:35 > 1:14:38But you know why I don't? Because...

1:14:41 > 1:14:44..the old folks say, "What you reap, you will sow."

1:14:45 > 1:14:49And with all that he's done to my family

1:14:49 > 1:14:50and somebody else's family,

1:14:50 > 1:14:54he may be physically out of jail...

1:14:56 > 1:14:58..but, mentally, he's not.

1:15:00 > 1:15:04So I don't think that I would want to be in his place right now.

1:15:14 > 1:15:17I got to get my shit together. I been so fucking depressed, man.

1:15:17 > 1:15:20I've never been this way before.

1:15:23 > 1:15:29I need to get a little more active, a little more involved with my child.

1:15:30 > 1:15:32The correct way.

1:15:34 > 1:15:37Starve or eat with him.

1:15:43 > 1:15:45Six minutes.

1:15:46 > 1:15:48Let's smoke a joint, man.

1:15:51 > 1:15:55HE COUGHS AND SPLUTTERS

1:16:00 > 1:16:02I blame this all on the government.

1:16:02 > 1:16:05I'm trying to be a good fucking citizen.

1:16:07 > 1:16:09And look what happens.

1:16:11 > 1:16:14I'm a fucking Muslim and I can't even go to the mosque.

1:16:14 > 1:16:16Ain't that a bitch?

1:16:16 > 1:16:19Because of the fucking mosque I already infiltrated

1:16:19 > 1:16:21and even been on the news and everything else.

1:16:21 > 1:16:25And my name's up there, so how the fuck am I going to pray?

1:16:25 > 1:16:27They're violating my constitutional rights now

1:16:27 > 1:16:32and preventing me from going into the mosque because of my actions.

1:16:47 > 1:16:50A guy that used to work out of the New York office,

1:16:50 > 1:16:52he has something in the making.

1:16:52 > 1:16:55He said, "Are you interested in an assignment?"

1:16:55 > 1:16:56"Yes, I am."

1:16:56 > 1:17:00"Would I be interested in going down there and doing some work?"

1:17:00 > 1:17:01I said, "Yeah."

1:17:01 > 1:17:03"I could use the money."

1:17:05 > 1:17:08They're getting ready to make a case.

1:17:08 > 1:17:11Where I fit in there, I don't know. You see what I'm saying?

1:17:11 > 1:17:13So they must need my expertise,

1:17:13 > 1:17:15because they always remember who they work with.

1:17:15 > 1:17:17They say, "Oh, I'll call Saeed.

1:17:17 > 1:17:19"Saeed, yeah, he's the man for this one."

1:17:19 > 1:17:21To tell you the truth,

1:17:21 > 1:17:24I got over five, six motherfucking convictions

1:17:24 > 1:17:26that they dig out, they work on.

1:17:26 > 1:17:27They work and they got it.

1:17:27 > 1:17:30That's just another episode you have to wait for.

1:17:30 > 1:17:32That's another part of the story, you see what I'm saying?

1:17:32 > 1:17:34A real juicy part.

1:17:34 > 1:17:36So this story is never ending.

1:17:38 > 1:17:41# The Mississippi mud

1:17:41 > 1:17:45# Is soaked in black blood

1:17:45 > 1:17:47# How many more must die?

1:17:47 > 1:17:49- TV REPORTERS: - In another terror case...

1:17:49 > 1:17:51Two men under arrest in a terror plot.

1:17:51 > 1:17:53Trying to detonate a car bomb.

1:17:53 > 1:17:541,000lbs worth of explosives.

1:17:54 > 1:17:57Caught thanks to an FBI informant.

1:18:03 > 1:18:05The plot was uncovered by an informant.

1:18:05 > 1:18:09- Confidential informant that was involved.- But the bomb was a fake.

1:18:09 > 1:18:10It was a sting.

1:18:10 > 1:18:14The FBI set the whole thing up and enticed them with money and gifts.

1:18:14 > 1:18:18# But we know something is wrong

1:18:20 > 1:18:23# The Mississippi mud

1:18:23 > 1:18:27# Is soaked in black blood

1:18:27 > 1:18:33# How many more must die?

1:18:33 > 1:18:39# My heart is singing a sad song

1:18:41 > 1:18:46# Cos so many brothers are gone

1:18:48 > 1:18:54# It's happened many times before

1:18:55 > 1:19:01# Lord, Lord, how many more?

1:19:02 > 1:19:05# The Mississippi mud

1:19:05 > 1:19:09# Is soaked in black blood

1:19:09 > 1:19:15# How many more must die? #