0:00:03 > 0:00:13This programme contains some strong language.
0:00:34 > 0:00:41'My name is Cinque and to my comrades I am known as Cin.'
0:00:48 > 0:00:53'I am a black man and a representative of black people.
0:00:53 > 0:00:57'I hold the rank of General Field Marshall
0:00:57 > 0:01:02'in the United Federated Forces of the Symbionese Liberation Army...'
0:01:02 > 0:01:05'My name is Fahizah and I am a freedom fighter
0:01:05 > 0:01:11'in an information/intelligence unit of the United Federated Forces of the Symbionese Liberation Army.'
0:01:11 > 0:01:14'Greetings to the people. This is Teko speaking.'
0:01:14 > 0:01:19'This is Yolanda speaking. Greetings of profound love to all comrades
0:01:19 > 0:01:24in the concentration camps of Fascist America, and to all the children.'
0:01:24 > 0:01:27'This is information/intelligence unit four.'
0:01:27 > 0:01:32'My name is Gelina and I am a General in the Symbionese Liberation Army.'
0:01:32 > 0:01:37'We have declared revolutionary war upon you, the enemy of the people.'
0:01:37 > 0:01:42'Death to the Fascist insect that preys upon the life of the people.'
0:01:45 > 0:01:47Mom, Dad,
0:01:47 > 0:01:49I'm with a...
0:01:49 > 0:01:54combat unit that's armed with automatic weapons.
0:02:15 > 0:02:17I grew up in Pensacola, Florida,
0:02:17 > 0:02:21up on the Gulf of Mexico. It was a typical kids' life at that time.
0:02:21 > 0:02:27I was born in 1949 so I was growing up in the '50's.
0:02:27 > 0:02:31I grew up watching Zorro and the Swamp Fox, you know,
0:02:31 > 0:02:33which was about the American Revolution.
0:02:33 > 0:02:37Robin Hood, I mean all these tales of swashbucklers and people
0:02:37 > 0:02:39who were fighting against the government.
0:02:44 > 0:02:49I really thought that I would end up being an astronaut.
0:02:49 > 0:02:55I went to the University of Florida for engineering. I thought that would be my way to be an astronaut.
0:03:01 > 0:03:05When I got to college I ran into a whole new world.
0:03:12 > 0:03:14The thing that you remembered growing up
0:03:14 > 0:03:17was we saved the world from Hitler.
0:03:17 > 0:03:19And then you turn around and we're being Hitler.
0:03:22 > 0:03:28You know, you see this every night and it's like, "Oh, my God!" It's like, "What's going on here?"
0:03:48 > 0:03:55There has been and continues to be opposition to the war in Vietnam on the campuses and also in the nation.
0:03:55 > 0:04:01As far as this kind of activity is concerned, we expect it.
0:04:01 > 0:04:06However, under no circumstances will I be affected whatever by it.
0:04:07 > 0:04:09I was pretty militant.
0:04:09 > 0:04:15I help shut down the college because I was a student then at UC Berkeley.
0:04:16 > 0:04:22It was almost like a kid that decided that their parents were just disgusting people.
0:04:22 > 0:04:28That's...I know that's a weird way to sum it up, but we just felt like there was no future.
0:04:30 > 0:04:33It was way too extreme...
0:04:33 > 0:04:36The difference between what was really going on
0:04:36 > 0:04:39and what was bandied about in school.
0:04:44 > 0:04:49I mean, we were just running rampant throughout the world, and just lying like hell about it.
0:04:52 > 0:04:56And then Kent State happened
0:04:56 > 0:04:59and I was shocked just like everybody else,
0:05:01 > 0:05:04especially everyone on all the campuses.
0:05:04 > 0:05:10Why don't you fire on us, you fucking pigs? Open fire like you did in Kent!
0:05:10 > 0:05:14Then I felt like in no uncertain terms, that people like me
0:05:14 > 0:05:19were being declared the enemy by the government of the United States.
0:05:21 > 0:05:26I don't think that most of the young people involved who considered themselves
0:05:26 > 0:05:28part of the counter-culture
0:05:28 > 0:05:32saw themselves so much as revolutionaries or renegades
0:05:32 > 0:05:36as people think they did, or as the establishment accused them of being.
0:05:36 > 0:05:40They actually saw themselves, if they did not admit as such, as patriots.
0:05:43 > 0:05:48Most everybody that I ever knew that was a radical were go-getters in high school -
0:05:48 > 0:05:51I was a national science finalist,
0:05:51 > 0:05:54I had a gigantic IQ and all this.
0:05:54 > 0:05:58Most everybody did, you know, it was all these high achievers. We were just shocked.
0:06:09 > 0:06:13It just got to the point where I felt like this thing is just totally out of control,
0:06:13 > 0:06:17the country is out of control. It's being run by criminals.
0:06:17 > 0:06:21It's being run by just total right-wingers who have
0:06:21 > 0:06:25no respect for the constitution or anything else.
0:06:25 > 0:06:30That's the way I felt when I left and went to California.
0:06:34 > 0:06:36# Hari Krishna Hari Krishna, Krishna Krishna
0:06:36 > 0:06:39# Hari Hari. Hari Rama... #
0:06:39 > 0:06:44I didn't necessarily think that I would ever live to see a revolution.
0:06:44 > 0:06:47It seemed like it was more revolutionary,
0:06:47 > 0:06:52you know, in the late '60s than it was by the time I got to Berkeley.
0:06:52 > 0:06:56# I'm so glad Jesus set me free... #
0:06:56 > 0:06:59We were pulling out of Vietnam.
0:06:59 > 0:07:04A lot of people were going, you know, "Everything's over now, we'll go back to college",
0:07:04 > 0:07:06and it wasn't over at all.
0:07:06 > 0:07:09The same stuff was still going on.
0:07:09 > 0:07:15The same criminals were still...murderers and stuff...were still running the Government.
0:07:16 > 0:07:19THEY CHANT
0:07:22 > 0:07:28'Preserve, protect and defend the constitution of the United States.'
0:07:28 > 0:07:33Preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.
0:07:33 > 0:07:36- So help me God.- So help me God.
0:07:36 > 0:07:39I couldn't believe it.
0:07:39 > 0:07:42That Nixon got re-elected in '72.
0:07:42 > 0:07:45I couldn't believe that this guy got re-elected.
0:07:45 > 0:07:48I just felt like we gotta keep something going.
0:07:52 > 0:07:56One of the things I did that other people got involved in was show
0:07:56 > 0:08:01these films, political films about what was going on in the world.
0:08:16 > 0:08:22The events in this film actually took place in a South American country.
0:08:23 > 0:08:31One of the groups that I really liked, and I guess it's back to the old Robin Hood and Zorro thing,
0:08:31 > 0:08:33was the Tupamaros down in Uruguay.
0:08:33 > 0:08:35State of Siege - I did see that.
0:08:35 > 0:08:38If you consider yourself a revolutionary, if you want
0:08:38 > 0:08:42to change things, then I thought these guys got it figured out.
0:08:42 > 0:08:48And Che of course, I thought he was great. He was from Bolivia, he was down in Cuba helping the Cubans.
0:08:48 > 0:08:53Che! Che! Superhero to some, villain to others!
0:08:53 > 0:08:57His battle cry is heard around the world - Che Lives!
0:08:57 > 0:09:01Only Sharif with his dramatic force and his amazing physical likeness
0:09:01 > 0:09:03to Che could play the part.
0:09:03 > 0:09:07It's funny how all these things happened but that's where Willie
0:09:07 > 0:09:11and I met Bill and Emily and Joe,
0:09:11 > 0:09:14is at one of these films.
0:09:27 > 0:09:30Willie was kind of like the catalyst.
0:09:30 > 0:09:34Willie was the one that all these different people met.
0:09:34 > 0:09:37Willie was like the common denominator.
0:09:37 > 0:09:43Willie studied anthropology at Berkeley and it was actually through
0:09:43 > 0:09:47Berkeley that he got in to going to prisons, from some class,
0:09:47 > 0:09:49some anthropology class.
0:09:51 > 0:09:56I think that my, and people around me that I knew,
0:09:56 > 0:10:01had such total distrust of this country at that point that San Quentin, Vietnam,
0:10:01 > 0:10:03it was the same thing.
0:10:07 > 0:10:11I was interested in the prisons, actually,
0:10:11 > 0:10:16and when I found out Willie and them were going, then I went.
0:10:16 > 0:10:18So Willie came - I think Willie's the one who started it,
0:10:18 > 0:10:24there were discussions about, "Well, we know there are people in prison we don't think should be there.
0:10:26 > 0:10:29"What are we willing to do about that?
0:10:29 > 0:10:32"Yeah, we can visit them, we can try to get people
0:10:32 > 0:10:35"to donate money, we can try to find lawyers to help them and stuff.
0:10:35 > 0:10:37"But what else are we willing to do?"
0:10:37 > 0:10:41And there was talk about, what if somebody escaped?
0:10:41 > 0:10:44What if we could help somebody escape?
0:10:44 > 0:10:49So we started talking along those lines.
0:10:51 > 0:10:56By then, every black prisoner in California prisons was regarded in one way or another
0:10:56 > 0:11:03as a political prisoner, which had a bit of truth connected to it but a whole lot or romantic bullshit too.
0:11:08 > 0:11:14The idea that made black prisoners so-called political prisoners was that they had been denied sufficient
0:11:14 > 0:11:19opportunity in society and had reached out to take their share.
0:11:22 > 0:11:26DeFreeze wasn't just some criminal.
0:11:26 > 0:11:30I mean, he wasn't some guy who was some pimp or some dope dealer
0:11:30 > 0:11:35from day one. DeFreeze had been married, he had kids, he'd worked full time.
0:11:35 > 0:11:39It's just, I think he couldn't live the American Dream,
0:11:39 > 0:11:43the thing you're seeing on TV, he couldn't do it just by working.
0:11:43 > 0:11:45So he also became a thief.
0:11:48 > 0:11:50You know, I liked the guy.
0:11:50 > 0:11:52I liked him.
0:11:58 > 0:12:04Willie took DeFreeze over to Mizmoon's house to hide him out.
0:12:08 > 0:12:12He got transferred over to Nancy Perry's.
0:12:12 > 0:12:17So DeFreeze and Nancy and Mizmoon, they were living out in Concord.
0:12:19 > 0:12:22You got you're very own escaped convict?
0:12:22 > 0:12:25I mean, come on, if there was status in knowing black political prisoners
0:12:25 > 0:12:29there was one hell of a lot within the so-called "revolutionaries"
0:12:29 > 0:12:32of actually being able to hide out an escapee,
0:12:32 > 0:12:36who would then prove to be something more than just an escapee.
0:12:37 > 0:12:40I think that was the beginning of it.
0:12:40 > 0:12:44Probably him and Mizmoon were the two first members, I would think.
0:12:44 > 0:12:47Then Russ Little, you know, knew him.
0:12:47 > 0:12:50I know people want to make DeFreeze the leader
0:12:50 > 0:12:53or some kind of Manson figure,
0:12:53 > 0:12:57but that's just not my experience.
0:13:00 > 0:13:04It became obvious to us that what we were really doing is that we were
0:13:04 > 0:13:11forming our own little group, to be able to respond to things
0:13:11 > 0:13:14and do things that were illegal.
0:13:16 > 0:13:20This forest is wide. It can shelter and clothe and feed a band of good, determined men.
0:13:20 > 0:13:22Good swordsmen, good archers, good fighters.
0:13:22 > 0:13:25Are you with me? THEY CHEER
0:13:33 > 0:13:36We familiarized ourselves with weapons.
0:13:36 > 0:13:38We bought weapons.
0:13:38 > 0:13:40They weren't militant in any way.
0:13:40 > 0:13:46In fact, most of them had decent personalities, and nice people.
0:13:46 > 0:13:49We didn't have some great plan.
0:13:49 > 0:13:54We weren't like, "Now we'll take the South in '75 and then we'll move
0:13:54 > 0:13:56"into the Midwest in '76."
0:13:56 > 0:14:00We didn't think we were Mao out there with the Red Army.
0:14:02 > 0:14:05We practised, sure.
0:14:05 > 0:14:09We practiced at the gun ranges just like everybody else practised.
0:14:26 > 0:14:31Officers arrived immediately and both Mr Blackburn and Dr Foster
0:14:31 > 0:14:35were transferred to Highland Hospital in Oakland
0:14:35 > 0:14:38where Dr Foster was pronounced deceased.
0:14:38 > 0:14:44The murder of Marcus Foster, who was the School Superintendent in Oakland,
0:14:44 > 0:14:47was one of these appalling acts that made no sense whatsoever.
0:14:47 > 0:14:50Here was the first black school superintendent in the history
0:14:50 > 0:14:53of Oakland, a good man, suddenly gunned down.
0:14:58 > 0:15:04Who actually pulled the trigger that killed Foster was Mizmoon.
0:15:04 > 0:15:06GUNSHOT
0:15:07 > 0:15:11Nancy was supposed to shoot Blackburn.
0:15:11 > 0:15:12GUNSHOT
0:15:12 > 0:15:17She kind of botched that and DeFreeze ended up shooting him with a shotgun.
0:15:21 > 0:15:26If I recall correctly I was just about to leave the office one day when I stopped to check my mailbox.
0:15:26 > 0:15:33And here was this communique sent from "The Symbionese Liberation Army",
0:15:33 > 0:15:36saying that they had assassinated Foster.
0:15:36 > 0:15:41I remember being struck by the fact they said they used cyanide-tipped bullets.
0:15:41 > 0:15:47The whole thing sounded ridiculous, Symbionese Liberation Army, killing the black school superintendent.
0:15:47 > 0:15:49Who were these people?
0:15:49 > 0:15:55We thought for sure it was some lunatic right-wing fringe, and we just figured
0:15:55 > 0:16:01Symbionese was like, you know, white farmers in Rhodesia or something.
0:16:01 > 0:16:04'My name is Fahizah and I am a freedom fighter
0:16:04 > 0:16:11'in an information/intelligence unit of the United Federated Forces of the Symbionese Liberation Army.
0:16:11 > 0:16:15'I try to use my mind and my imagination to uncover
0:16:15 > 0:16:19'facts so that when the SLA attacks, it will be in the right place.'
0:16:19 > 0:16:22I remember saying to DeFreeze, "Why?
0:16:22 > 0:16:24"Why would you kill a black guy?"
0:16:24 > 0:16:29Jesus Christ. man, there's black people being killed all over the place, man.
0:16:29 > 0:16:33You know if you're going to kill somebody, why in the world would it be him?
0:16:33 > 0:16:37And as far as DeFreeze was concerned, Foster was the front man
0:16:37 > 0:16:42for some horrendous police apparatus that was set up.
0:16:49 > 0:16:52The issue was ID for high-school students.
0:16:52 > 0:16:58And the funny thing is everyone today that's even mildly been associated with the SLA,
0:16:58 > 0:17:00just about everyone has kids and
0:17:00 > 0:17:04all of us want those IDs, that's the funny thing.
0:17:14 > 0:17:16Stay away from the defendant.
0:17:16 > 0:17:18Stay away from the deputies.
0:17:18 > 0:17:20Thank you.
0:17:20 > 0:17:23'Remiro and Russell Little were taken into custody two nights ago
0:17:23 > 0:17:26'when they exchanged shots with a Concord policeman.
0:17:26 > 0:17:31'Before the day was over Joseph Remiro had been accused of the murder of Oakland schools chief
0:17:31 > 0:17:33'Dr Marcus Foster.'
0:17:33 > 0:17:36They found us in the van. Joe was in a shootout with the cop and everything.
0:17:36 > 0:17:40As far as they're concerned, man, we're armed and dangerous revolutionaries.
0:17:40 > 0:17:43Within less than 48 hours, we were in San Quentin Prison.
0:17:43 > 0:17:47I mean, I'd never even been arrested before.
0:17:47 > 0:17:50Remiro, at the time we were investigating it, we regarded
0:17:50 > 0:17:54him as their armourer, that is someone who took care of the weapons.
0:17:54 > 0:17:57And Little was more of a logistical support person.
0:17:57 > 0:18:01He was close to DeFreeze and would have been,
0:18:01 > 0:18:07I think, aware of whatever decision was made to kill Foster.
0:18:20 > 0:18:26We found Mr Little's identification at the Southerland address in Concord that we were working on.
0:18:26 > 0:18:29We've identified him by witnesses at that location.
0:18:29 > 0:18:35We also found a map of the scene of the murder at the Oakland Public Schools
0:18:35 > 0:18:39showing the location where Dr Foster had been killed, and the map was identified by the word "ambush"
0:18:39 > 0:18:45- across the top.- Has your investigation uncovered evidence as to the size of this liberation army?
0:18:45 > 0:18:49No. The only thing I can say is that it has grown day by day.
0:18:51 > 0:18:55Everybody saw us together all the time.
0:18:55 > 0:18:58After we got arrested, they were totally tied to us.
0:18:58 > 0:19:01You know...
0:19:02 > 0:19:05At that point you only have two choices.
0:19:05 > 0:19:10You could just drop out of everything and disappear
0:19:10 > 0:19:14or go into hiding and try to figure out what to do next.
0:19:14 > 0:19:16And that's what they did.
0:19:18 > 0:19:22They had massive files on all the heads of all
0:19:22 > 0:19:26the big international corporations who involved in overthrowing Chile
0:19:26 > 0:19:31and everything else that was going on. They were gathering information on all of that.
0:19:31 > 0:19:36They just had some massive investigative research thing going on.
0:19:37 > 0:19:42The SLA in its formative time at that point was looking for targets.
0:19:45 > 0:19:51Emily Harris worked in the registrars office at UC Berkeley, so they had a pretty fair
0:19:51 > 0:19:55knowledge of who was at Berkeley.
0:19:55 > 0:19:58And they were looking for the right one.
0:20:14 > 0:20:17There's been a big kidnapping on the west coast.
0:20:17 > 0:20:21The victim is Patricia Hearst, the daughter of newspaper executive Randolph Hearst
0:20:21 > 0:20:24and a grand-daughter of the legendary William Randolph Hearst.
0:20:24 > 0:20:29'Miss Hearst, newspaper heiress and daughter of Randolph Hearst,
0:20:29 > 0:20:34managing editor of the San Francisco Examiner, is a University of California sophomore.
0:20:34 > 0:20:40She screamed when the men burst in and started beating her fiance, 26-year-old Steven Weed.
0:20:40 > 0:20:43The young heiress was forced into the trunk of a white car.
0:20:43 > 0:20:45Her abductors, armed with pistols and a rifle,
0:20:45 > 0:20:50fired a hail of bullets as they sped away followed by a second vehicle.
0:20:50 > 0:20:54Police say the whole thing was carried out with commando-like precision.
0:20:54 > 0:20:58They said absolutely nothing. They were very militaristic.
0:20:58 > 0:21:03They had it so well planned that they needed to say nothing to each other.
0:21:09 > 0:21:16The national media immediately focused on it as a kidnapping case and understood
0:21:16 > 0:21:20the revolutionary aspects of it.
0:21:20 > 0:21:26But in effect what they did was park outside Randolph Hearst's mansion.
0:21:27 > 0:21:33It was the only place to go and so they made a story of it to a degree.
0:21:33 > 0:21:37'A live report from the Hearst home in Hillsborough. John?'
0:21:37 > 0:21:40So I'd get calls in the morning saying, "Who's there?"
0:21:40 > 0:21:42"Well, 2's here and so is 4 and so is 5, I'm 7."
0:21:42 > 0:21:45"Well, you'd better hang around."
0:21:45 > 0:21:48And so no-one left, because the other was there.
0:21:50 > 0:21:54We had the same questions that everybody else had.
0:21:54 > 0:21:56Where is this thing gonna go? Who are these people? What do they want?
0:21:59 > 0:22:04The United Federated Forces of the Symbionese Liberation Army,
0:22:04 > 0:22:08armed with cyanide-loaded weapons served an arrest warrant
0:22:08 > 0:22:10upon Patricia Campbell Hearst.
0:22:10 > 0:22:15All communications from this court must be published in full in all newspapers
0:22:15 > 0:22:17and all other forms of the media.
0:22:17 > 0:22:21Failure to do so will endanger the safety of the prisoner.
0:22:21 > 0:22:27Should any attempt be made by authorities to rescue the prisoner or arrest or harm SLA elements,
0:22:27 > 0:22:30the prisoner is to be executed.
0:22:30 > 0:22:38And in capital letters under that is, "Death to the fascist insect that preys upon the life of the people."
0:22:45 > 0:22:50We heard this stuff, we were locked down in the Adjustment Centre in San Quentin,
0:22:50 > 0:22:54and all this stuff hit the media and we just couldn't believe it.
0:22:54 > 0:22:56The heat on us was bad enough.
0:22:56 > 0:22:59After that happened, man, it was just really a nightmare.
0:22:59 > 0:23:04We are now the SLA personified,
0:23:04 > 0:23:07the premier anti-government terrorists.
0:23:09 > 0:23:14At that point they stuck us up on Death Row in the strip cells up there
0:23:14 > 0:23:17and did all kinds of shit, you know.
0:23:17 > 0:23:22Put us in the gas chamber... Did everything they could think of.
0:23:25 > 0:23:27But we weren't going to start changing our tune.
0:23:27 > 0:23:32We figured we were dead anyway, why should we snivel our way out of it?
0:23:35 > 0:23:38Do you have any feelings about your son being moved to Death Row
0:23:38 > 0:23:41- at San Quentin?- Well, I think it was very silly.
0:23:41 > 0:23:45I mean under the Constitution, you're innocent until found guilty.
0:23:45 > 0:23:51He hasn't even been brought to trial. So what would you say? Wouldn't you say it was a very silly thing to do?
0:23:51 > 0:23:59We had read about this, watched movies about it, now we got to be in Attica,
0:23:59 > 0:24:02as revolutionaries no less.
0:24:04 > 0:24:08Now you talk about State Of Siege, the movie.
0:24:08 > 0:24:14That's how the SLA kind of envisioned it. The kidnap was meant as a prisoner swap.
0:24:14 > 0:24:21They meant, frankly, to grab Patricia Hearst and trade her for Russ Little and Joe Remiro.
0:24:25 > 0:24:27What we received in the mail today
0:24:27 > 0:24:33appears to me to be a seven-page statement from the SLA plus a tape recording, which purports to be
0:24:33 > 0:24:37somebody from the SLA and also the voice of Patricia Hearst.
0:24:37 > 0:24:41And according to the demands, which we'll outline here,
0:24:41 > 0:24:46it says that all of these things must be publicised in full which is what we're doing right now.
0:24:46 > 0:24:49We knew they weren't about to release us
0:24:49 > 0:24:51because they had Patty Hearst.
0:24:52 > 0:24:57They realised they're not gonna get a prisoner exchange.
0:24:57 > 0:25:04The next best thing they can do is create some kind of enormous act.
0:25:04 > 0:25:08So that's the food giveaway.
0:25:13 > 0:25:17We have heard it said that Mr Hearst wants to save his daughter.
0:25:17 > 0:25:19We want to save all the children and people.
0:25:19 > 0:25:23Each Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday for four successive weeks
0:25:23 > 0:25:28each person with one of the listed cards can go to publicized stores and pick up their food.
0:25:28 > 0:25:32The meat, vegetables and dairy products must be of top quality
0:25:32 > 0:25:34and in ample supply during all store hours...
0:25:34 > 0:25:38It's as outrageous as they can think of it.
0:25:38 > 0:25:42I mean, they want the supermarkets emptied and food thrown into the streets.
0:25:42 > 0:25:44I mean, that's really what it amounted to.
0:25:44 > 0:25:49General Field Marshall C-I-N, SLA.
0:25:49 > 0:25:53And what we're going to play next as per instructions from the SLA,
0:25:53 > 0:25:55is a tape recording from the SLA
0:25:55 > 0:26:00which purports to contain the voice of the kidnap victim Patricia Hearst.
0:26:04 > 0:26:06'Mom, Dad.
0:26:06 > 0:26:09'I'm OK.
0:26:09 > 0:26:16'I'm with a combat unit that's armed with automatic weapons.
0:26:19 > 0:26:22'And these people aren't just a bunch of nuts.
0:26:22 > 0:26:26'They've been really honest with me but
0:26:26 > 0:26:31'they're perfectly willing to die for what they're doing.
0:26:31 > 0:26:39'And I want to get out of here but the only way I'm going to is if we do it their way.
0:26:42 > 0:26:48'And I just hope you'll do what they say, Dad, and just do it quickly.
0:26:48 > 0:26:51'And I mean I hope that this puts you a little bit at ease
0:26:51 > 0:26:57'and that you know that I really, that I really am all right.
0:27:01 > 0:27:05'I just hope I can get back to everybody really soon.'
0:27:08 > 0:27:13'Wednesday the 13th day of February, and of course, it's the morning after the Hearst family received
0:27:13 > 0:27:18'that letter from the Symbionese Liberation Army which was full of very bizarre demands.
0:27:18 > 0:27:23'This morning an FBI man said that the demand for 300 million worth of free food for people
0:27:23 > 0:27:29'on welfare was, in his words, in the realm of unreasonableness.'
0:27:29 > 0:27:35You sounded a little tired, or like you were sedated, but you sounded all right and I'm sure
0:27:37 > 0:27:40that the people that have you are telling the truth
0:27:40 > 0:27:43when they say that they're treating you under the Geneva Convention.
0:27:46 > 0:27:50I just want you to know that I'm going to do everything I can to get you out of there.
0:27:52 > 0:27:58It's a little frightening because the original demand is what I was afraid of from the beginning...
0:27:58 > 0:28:00One that's impossible to meet.
0:28:04 > 0:28:10However, in the next 24 to 48 hours I'll be trying my best to come back
0:28:10 > 0:28:13with some kind of a counter offer
0:28:13 > 0:28:16that's acceptable.
0:28:19 > 0:28:26It's very difficult because I have no-one to negotiate with
0:28:26 > 0:28:33except through a letter that generally comes two or three days later than we expect it.
0:28:35 > 0:28:40Anyway, you can rest assured that
0:28:40 > 0:28:43your mother and I and all the family will do everything
0:28:43 > 0:28:45we can to get you out.
0:28:45 > 0:28:50Tell them not to worry. Nobody's going to bust in on them or start a shoot-up.
0:28:52 > 0:28:55And you take care of yourself.
0:28:55 > 0:29:00They waited to see what Hearst would do and did very little work
0:29:00 > 0:29:04to find out what the SLA might do, or who the SLA might be.
0:29:04 > 0:29:08That ominous quiet continues at the Hearst home.
0:29:08 > 0:29:11And that tense, frustrating wait goes on.
0:29:11 > 0:29:15We never discussed it, as to - should we be doing this?
0:29:15 > 0:29:22We're, you know, being a mouthpiece for the family, we're recording what they have to say.
0:29:22 > 0:29:26We're recording what the bad guys are saying, their tapes,
0:29:26 > 0:29:31we're just sort of being messengers back and forth. Are we really doing our jobs?
0:29:31 > 0:29:36'Greetings to the people and fellow comrade brothers and sisters.
0:29:36 > 0:29:38'My name is Cinque
0:29:38 > 0:29:42'and to my comrades I am known as Cin.
0:29:42 > 0:29:45'I hold the rank of General Field Marshall
0:29:45 > 0:29:50'in the United Federated Forces of the Symbionese Liberation Army.
0:29:50 > 0:29:55'The SLA has arrested the subject for the crimes that her mother and father
0:29:55 > 0:30:03'have by their actions committed against we, the American people and the oppressed people of the world.
0:30:03 > 0:30:07'Randolph A Hearst is the corporate chairman
0:30:07 > 0:30:12'of the fascist media empire of the ultra-right Hearst corporation,
0:30:12 > 0:30:18'which is one of the largest propaganda institutions of this present military dictatorship
0:30:18 > 0:30:25'of the militarily armed corporate state that we now live under in this nation.
0:30:25 > 0:30:31'The primary goal of this empire is to serve and form the necessary
0:30:31 > 0:30:38'propaganda and smoke-screen to shield the American people from seeing the realities
0:30:38 > 0:30:43'of the corporate dictatorship which Richard Nixon and Gerald Ford represent.
0:30:43 > 0:30:46'In closing,
0:30:46 > 0:30:51'I wish to say to Mr Hearst and Mrs Hearst, I am quite willing
0:30:51 > 0:30:54'to carry out the execution of your daughter
0:30:54 > 0:30:59'to save the life of starving men, women and children of every race.
0:30:59 > 0:31:04'And if as you and others so naively believe
0:31:04 > 0:31:09'that we will lose, let it be known that even in death we will win,
0:31:09 > 0:31:15'for the very ashes of this fascist nation will mark our very graves.'
0:31:17 > 0:31:21There was no doubt they were in control of the situation, no doubt.
0:31:21 > 0:31:27And no doubt that they were in control, again, because they had the girl.
0:31:27 > 0:31:33They had a Hearst. This is like uncrowned royalty.
0:31:35 > 0:31:41They kicked off something, they had no idea of what the ramifications would be when they kidnapped her.
0:31:41 > 0:31:46They did exactly what I for one didn't want to do.
0:31:48 > 0:31:51And we were parked in front.
0:31:51 > 0:31:54And we started out with cars. Then we got to Winnebagos.
0:31:54 > 0:32:00- Then we got to where some people stayed overnight.- ..anxious about his daughter's plight.
0:32:00 > 0:32:03This is the first time something like this has ever happened.
0:32:03 > 0:32:06So there are no ground rules.
0:32:06 > 0:32:10We got barbeque sets, wine, liquor.
0:32:10 > 0:32:15Where's your microphone? I'm sorry, we're busy now.
0:32:15 > 0:32:18This is one of the all-time great Nazi spies.
0:32:18 > 0:32:21Al Bullock. Would you like to say a few words into the camera?
0:32:21 > 0:32:25Not to this fascist pig press.
0:32:28 > 0:32:35If the FBI did know where Patty Hearst was, what exactly would you do?
0:32:35 > 0:32:39This would depend on the facts. We don't know where Patty Hearst is.
0:32:39 > 0:32:43We're making no direct attempt
0:32:43 > 0:32:47to find out, because we don't want to get Patty hurt.
0:32:47 > 0:32:54At the time when Charlie was special agent in charge in San Francisco, the FBI really didn't know what to do.
0:32:54 > 0:32:58They didn't have a clue about who these people were.
0:32:58 > 0:33:05This was brand new and came out of nowhere, and in a lot of ways they looked in the wrong places.
0:33:05 > 0:33:08These were people who were dangerous, obviously,
0:33:08 > 0:33:12because they had already murdered one person
0:33:12 > 0:33:14and they had set fire to a house.
0:33:14 > 0:33:17How big they were? Underground support groups?
0:33:17 > 0:33:20No idea whatsoever.
0:33:20 > 0:33:27I mean, that's one of the reasons that the Bureau sent so many people in, was to try and approach this
0:33:27 > 0:33:32as a terrorist investigation as well as a kidnap case.
0:33:34 > 0:33:38The U-2 was flying sorties up over the High Sierra
0:33:38 > 0:33:42looking at campsites and things like this during the initial search days.
0:33:49 > 0:33:54The tapes were sent to CIA headquarters
0:33:54 > 0:33:59to be listened to by blind people whose hearing is extremely acute.
0:33:59 > 0:34:04And they heard things in the background that the ordinary ear would never pick up.
0:34:04 > 0:34:08'Greetings to the people and comrades, sisters and brothers.
0:34:08 > 0:34:12'My name is Gelina and I am a general in the Symbionese Liberation Army.
0:34:12 > 0:34:18'The Symbionese War Council has determined that communication between POW Patricia Hearst and her family
0:34:18 > 0:34:24'will come only after the immediate creation of the necessary mechanisms whereby Russell Little
0:34:24 > 0:34:29'and Joseph Remiro can communicate via live national TV
0:34:29 > 0:34:32'with the People and the SLA, concerning the full scope
0:34:32 > 0:34:37'of their physical health and all the conditions of their confinement.'
0:34:37 > 0:34:40Oh, man, the FBI came in and said, "Oh, hell no,
0:34:40 > 0:34:44"we ain't about to let these guys go live on national TV, forget that."
0:34:44 > 0:34:50I'd do everything I could to get them on the air and will.
0:34:50 > 0:34:55They're the ones, as far as I'm concerned, whether Remiro and Little go on the air,
0:34:55 > 0:35:00if the SLA wants them to go on the air, I'd be delighted to have them go on the air.
0:35:00 > 0:35:04They may tell me something that I don't know. It may gradually become
0:35:04 > 0:35:08a conduit in which we can talk to the SLA.
0:35:08 > 0:35:13I told him, "You know, what you're doing is giving them a satisfaction.
0:35:13 > 0:35:16"You're putting them on a pedestal they don't belong."
0:35:19 > 0:35:25I am being held as a Prisoner of War
0:35:25 > 0:35:30and not as anything else. I mean, I am being treated in accordance with international codes of war.
0:35:30 > 0:35:34And so, I mean, Dad, you shouldn't listen
0:35:34 > 0:35:39or believe what anybody else says about the way I'm being treated, this is the way I'm being treated.
0:35:39 > 0:35:42And I'm not left alone, and I'm not just shoved off somewhere.
0:35:42 > 0:35:44I mean, I am fine.
0:35:44 > 0:35:47Also, since I am an example, and it's really important that everybody
0:35:47 > 0:35:52understand that, you know, I am an example and a warning.
0:35:52 > 0:35:56And because of this it's very important to the SLA that I return safely.
0:35:58 > 0:36:03And so people should stop acting like I'm dead.
0:36:03 > 0:36:08Mom should get out of her black dress, that doesn't help at all.
0:36:08 > 0:36:11And, er...
0:36:11 > 0:36:14just take care of Steve,
0:36:14 > 0:36:17and, well, just hurry. Bye.
0:36:20 > 0:36:23You can argue that we shouldn't have dealt with the SLA.
0:36:23 > 0:36:26You can argue that you shouldn't deal with radical groups.
0:36:26 > 0:36:30You do all those kinds of things intellectually, until it becomes your daughter.
0:36:30 > 0:36:37And after a short period of time Hearst said, "Hey, it's my daughter, we'll do whatever they want."
0:36:39 > 0:36:43Arrangements have been made for 2 million
0:36:43 > 0:36:46to be delivered to a tax-exempt charitable organisation
0:36:46 > 0:36:50capable of making a distribution for the benefit of the poor and needy.
0:36:50 > 0:36:55He walked out the front door and said, "Lud Kramer will handle the food distribution." And that was it.
0:36:55 > 0:37:02Gentlemen, this is Mr Ludlow Kramer, the Secretary of State of the State of Washington. This afternoon we met
0:37:02 > 0:37:07with the coalition. Now we discussed the programme,
0:37:07 > 0:37:11the model of it has been done in the State of Washington.
0:37:11 > 0:37:15And one of the sad parts was the number of people that they grabbed
0:37:15 > 0:37:18to help them that could do nothing.
0:37:18 > 0:37:24It is very apparent that SLA has now seen
0:37:24 > 0:37:27fit to use us as a liaison.
0:37:27 > 0:37:34We made a plea for that to happen and now we are the liaison between the Hearst family and SLA.
0:37:34 > 0:37:40They hired a couple of people to analyze every word she said and what it really meant, not what she said.
0:37:40 > 0:37:43And paid them a lot of money.
0:37:43 > 0:37:48- PATRICIA: - I'm not being starved or beaten,
0:37:48 > 0:37:51or unnecessarily frightened.
0:37:51 > 0:37:56Psychics were in the house all the time. They were doing things and getting paid to do it.
0:37:56 > 0:38:01But again, it was grabbing. It was a family... No matter how powerful
0:38:01 > 0:38:05or great or good they may be who knew nothing about what was happening.
0:38:05 > 0:38:08They had no comprehension of who they were dealing with
0:38:08 > 0:38:12or how they were dealing with it, and at the start we didn't know who we were dealing with either.
0:38:22 > 0:38:27Four days ago we had nothing, and in four days we've created the largest private volunteer organisation
0:38:27 > 0:38:28in the history of this country.
0:38:28 > 0:38:33The SLA is correct in the sense that people need funds, that people need the additional money.
0:38:33 > 0:38:37We are not questioning that at all, and the 4,000 volunteers
0:38:37 > 0:38:40that are working on this programme believe the same thing.
0:38:40 > 0:38:44But we believe that it must be and can be an ongoing programme.
0:38:44 > 0:38:47I went down there with Randy
0:38:47 > 0:38:49and that was amazing.
0:38:49 > 0:38:54So you had meat here, you had produce here, you had eggs here, you had bananas, whatever, whatever.
0:38:54 > 0:39:00And there were just assembly lines and at the end came out the box, as if the SLA was giving the gift,
0:39:00 > 0:39:06right, with their insignia, that seven-headed snake nonsense, on either side.
0:39:06 > 0:39:11I am convinced that Patricia Hearst is going to be released.
0:39:13 > 0:39:15I believe that.
0:39:15 > 0:39:18I'm also convinced
0:39:18 > 0:39:25that the peoples of this land who have gone hungry are going to be fed.
0:39:28 > 0:39:31APPLAUSE
0:39:31 > 0:39:36I also believe that the corporate structures,
0:39:36 > 0:39:39those who head the corporations of our land,
0:39:39 > 0:39:43can now see
0:39:43 > 0:39:51that sometimes it takes the most extreme situation to be heard.
0:39:51 > 0:39:57Even though I disagree with the tactic of kidnapping and terrorism,
0:39:57 > 0:40:01people are looking like they've never looked before in America.
0:40:01 > 0:40:04APPLAUSE
0:40:08 > 0:40:14It was what we always wanted, in a way. It was like a dream that you didn't want to wake up from.
0:40:14 > 0:40:18Because, first of all, it was instant gratification.
0:40:18 > 0:40:21They say "food programme", there was a food program just like that.
0:40:21 > 0:40:26There was thousands of poor black people and poor Hispanics
0:40:26 > 0:40:28in line showing poverty in America,
0:40:28 > 0:40:33which is what we wanted to show for years and no-one would listen.
0:40:37 > 0:40:41I hate to take advantage of what could happen to the young lady.
0:40:42 > 0:40:46- But my children need food just like anybody else's kids.- Right on!
0:40:46 > 0:40:49We were like Robin Hood, we're coming in and we're going to feed people.
0:40:49 > 0:40:54And maybe this can be an ongoing program for 20 years and we can do good things, and all that stuff.
0:40:54 > 0:41:00So sure, we didn't agree with the SLA, but we knew people were hungry.
0:41:00 > 0:41:03HORN BEEPS
0:41:13 > 0:41:18What literally happens, of course, is because of the lack of coordination, because
0:41:18 > 0:41:21the chaos that surrounded it all,
0:41:21 > 0:41:25it almost comes off as a racist episode
0:41:25 > 0:41:30in which people look like damned fools fighting over a turkey.
0:41:41 > 0:41:45Three of them were going smoothly - one, all hell broke loose.
0:41:58 > 0:42:00All of a sudden people started coming in and saying,
0:42:00 > 0:42:05"Do you know two people have been killed and murdered because you handled this so badly?"
0:42:05 > 0:42:06People have been hurt, Mr Kramer.
0:42:06 > 0:42:09One reporter and he's not badly hurt.
0:42:09 > 0:42:10'It happened -
0:42:10 > 0:42:12'so what are you going to do?'
0:42:12 > 0:42:15I'm carrying out the wishes of the family.
0:42:21 > 0:42:23In the future,
0:42:23 > 0:42:27every crime committed in connection with a kidnapping
0:42:27 > 0:42:29will be prosecuted.
0:42:29 > 0:42:32And I'm including
0:42:32 > 0:42:38any persons who participate in any sort of a food distribution plan or a television set
0:42:38 > 0:42:41distribution plan or any other kind of a distribution plan.
0:42:41 > 0:42:44If it's done in response to extortion or kidnapping,
0:42:44 > 0:42:47we'll encourage the local district attorneys to prosecute
0:42:47 > 0:42:50under existing law and if they don't, we'll do it.
0:42:59 > 0:43:05The size of the latest demand of the SLA is far beyond my financial capability.
0:43:05 > 0:43:08Therefore, the matter is now out of my hands.
0:43:13 > 0:43:18You know something Robin, I was just wondering. Are we good guys or bad guys?
0:43:18 > 0:43:21You know, our robbing the rich to feed the poor.
0:43:21 > 0:43:24That's a naughty word, we never rob.
0:43:24 > 0:43:26- I've been robbed. - Of course you've been robbed!
0:43:29 > 0:43:31- PATRICIA: - Mom, Dad.
0:43:31 > 0:43:35I've been hearing reports about the food programme.
0:43:35 > 0:43:41So far it sounds like you and your advisors have managed to turn it into a real disaster.
0:43:41 > 0:43:46You said that it was out of your hands - what you should have said was that you wash your hands of it.
0:43:46 > 0:43:49It sounds like most of the food is low quality.
0:43:49 > 0:43:52No-one received any beef or lamb.
0:43:52 > 0:43:57Anyway, it certainly didn't sound like the kind of food our family is used to eating.
0:43:57 > 0:44:03Oh, my God, what's this? The child is talking down to her rich dad.
0:44:03 > 0:44:06I mean, this is what we all were doing for the last ten years.
0:44:06 > 0:44:09Like I say, distilled in a moment.
0:44:09 > 0:44:15It was like compressing matter, you know until it's just so...y'know.
0:44:15 > 0:44:17Like I said earlier, I concede
0:44:17 > 0:44:21that she may be actually having her doubts as to, you know,
0:44:21 > 0:44:25from her point of view, it may look like we've made a mess of things.
0:44:25 > 0:44:33- What is her political point of view? - Previous to the last two months, I'd say she really didn't have one.
0:44:37 > 0:44:41I think that by the time this is over
0:44:41 > 0:44:44she's going to have some sort of a political view.
0:44:44 > 0:44:46There's no way of getting around that.
0:44:52 > 0:44:54- PATRICIA: - Mom, Dad.
0:44:54 > 0:44:59Tell the poor and oppressed people of this nation what the corporate state is about to do.
0:44:59 > 0:45:05Warn black and poor people that they are about to be murdered down to the last man, woman and child.
0:45:05 > 0:45:08Tell the people that the energy crisis is nothing more than
0:45:08 > 0:45:15a means to get public approval for a massive program to build nuclear power plants all over the nation.
0:45:15 > 0:45:19Tell the people the entire corporate state is, with the aid
0:45:19 > 0:45:25of this massive power supply, about to totally automate the entire industrial state
0:45:25 > 0:45:31to the point that in the next five years, all that will be needed is a small class of button pushers.
0:45:31 > 0:45:34Tell the people, Dad, that the removal
0:45:34 > 0:45:40of expendable excess, the removal of unneeded people has already started.
0:45:40 > 0:45:47I have been given the choice of one - being released in a safe area, or two - joining the forces
0:45:47 > 0:45:49of the Symbionese Liberation Army
0:45:49 > 0:45:53and fighting for my freedom and the freedom of all oppressed people.
0:45:53 > 0:45:57I have chosen to stay and fight.
0:45:57 > 0:45:59I have been given the name Tania
0:45:59 > 0:46:03after a comrade who fought alongside Che in Bolivia.
0:46:03 > 0:46:09It is in the spirit of Tania that I say, "patria o muerte, venceremos."
0:46:17 > 0:46:19All of a sudden, within days,
0:46:19 > 0:46:24"We Love You Tania" because that's the name she chose... It was like...
0:46:24 > 0:46:30it was just so unreal. And that's all the media talked about.
0:46:30 > 0:46:34I don't even know what to compare it with. It was like...
0:46:34 > 0:46:36it was like...
0:46:36 > 0:46:43it was like the '49ers in '81 being all of a sudden on their way to the Superbowl. It was magical.
0:46:43 > 0:46:46It was just like the home team.
0:46:46 > 0:46:49It was like the '69 New York Mets.
0:46:49 > 0:46:52It was like... It was the ultimate David and Goliath.
0:46:52 > 0:46:57And it was like they tell them, "We want food." They tell them, "We want better food."
0:46:57 > 0:47:01This, that, and they just comply and they just folded.
0:47:01 > 0:47:04And it's just a few people
0:47:04 > 0:47:07and nothing ever like that had ever happened before.
0:47:07 > 0:47:09Everything else was a failure.
0:47:16 > 0:47:19Joe and I would read this stuff and just look at each other and like,
0:47:19 > 0:47:24you know, "Is everybody stoned, what's going on over here?"
0:47:24 > 0:47:27You don't think she's come round to thinking their way?
0:47:27 > 0:47:29Oh, I know Patty too well to think that she's going to come
0:47:29 > 0:47:31around like that, I really don't.
0:47:31 > 0:47:37- But why do you think she would say those things?- I guess she only hears one side of the story.
0:47:37 > 0:47:39The whole time she's been there she's heard one side.
0:47:39 > 0:47:43And maybe from where she is, she looks out and says, "What's going on?"
0:47:43 > 0:47:48- She only hears one side, like I said, and she just doesn't know the whole thing.- You don't believe it?
0:47:48 > 0:47:50No, I don't believe it.
0:47:50 > 0:47:55We're in more or less shock over this thing
0:47:55 > 0:47:59and until we know more about it we haven't anything to say.
0:47:59 > 0:48:04I think, and I don't remember all the details, but I think
0:48:04 > 0:48:06that's the only time he cried.
0:48:06 > 0:48:08That really broke his heart.
0:48:15 > 0:48:21You had people who were telling him that she's been brainwashed.
0:48:23 > 0:48:26So they had that...
0:48:26 > 0:48:28rock to hold on to.
0:48:32 > 0:48:37Until she walks in the door and tells them personally
0:48:37 > 0:48:40that she's a member of the SLA,
0:48:40 > 0:48:44common sense dictates that you have to accept that she is still
0:48:44 > 0:48:48being held prisoner by the SLA.
0:48:48 > 0:48:52If she is not, there's no reason in the world why she cannot come
0:48:52 > 0:48:57and make this statement in person and walk back out the door, as her parents said she could.
0:48:57 > 0:49:04We spoke to a lot of people who had become familiar with this phenomenon, the so-called "Stockholm Syndrome"
0:49:04 > 0:49:08in which people get kidnapped and identify with their kidnappers.
0:49:08 > 0:49:13The thesis of the Stockholm Syndrome is that every day your captor
0:49:13 > 0:49:19lets you live, you more closely identify with that captor,
0:49:19 > 0:49:26up until even sexual attraction. And to me she was a classic Stockholm Syndrome case.
0:49:26 > 0:49:30If I would have been there, part of the kidnapping?
0:49:30 > 0:49:35No, no, God, no. I can't imagine letting her stay.
0:49:35 > 0:49:38I mean, I know her and Willie, you know, they were in love,
0:49:38 > 0:49:42all this other stuff and she was pissed off at her parents...
0:49:42 > 0:49:44- Will you come with me?- To Sherwood?
0:49:44 > 0:49:49I have nothing to offer you but a life of hardship and danger, but we'd be together.
0:49:49 > 0:49:54Because I love you, Robin, I'd come. Even danger would mean nothing if you were with me.
0:49:54 > 0:49:57As for my ex-fiance, the fact is,
0:49:57 > 0:50:01I don't care if I never see him again.
0:50:01 > 0:50:07During the last few months, Steven has shown himself to be a sexist, ageist pig.
0:50:09 > 0:50:15All right, I'm not in any particular...
0:50:15 > 0:50:21right frame of mind perhaps to be talking now. I finished listening to the tape a few minutes ago.
0:50:21 > 0:50:26But it seemed important to me to say some things that I'm feeling right now
0:50:26 > 0:50:30and not think about them too much and screw it up.
0:50:32 > 0:50:38The SLA has said that they are the instrument of the people
0:50:38 > 0:50:43and yet the will of the people has been, at least lately, that,
0:50:43 > 0:50:48and the will of the two captured soldiers, has been
0:50:48 > 0:50:50to give Patty her freedom.
0:50:51 > 0:50:54I am reconciled
0:50:55 > 0:51:01to the idea that Patty must have matured a great deal in the past two months.
0:51:01 > 0:51:06I just want to tell Patty that I love her as much as ever
0:51:06 > 0:51:10and I think she knows that I can accept whatever she has chosen.
0:51:10 > 0:51:13Even though it may be hard for me, I can accept it.
0:51:18 > 0:51:21It was just like total Hollywood. But I guess the whole thing
0:51:21 > 0:51:28had turned into Hollywood so why shouldn't it be Hollywood for her? "Yeah, I'll go join Robin Hood."
0:51:36 > 0:51:42'Combat operation, April 15th, 1974 - The Year of the Children.
0:51:42 > 0:51:45'Action - appropriation.
0:51:47 > 0:51:50'One 38 Smith & Wesson revolver. Condition - good.
0:51:50 > 0:51:54'Five rounds of 158 grain 38 calibre ammo.
0:51:54 > 0:51:59'Number of rounds fired by Combat Forces - 7 rounds.
0:51:59 > 0:52:02'Number of rounds lost - 5.
0:52:02 > 0:52:08'Casualties, Peoples Forces - none, Enemy Forces - none, Civilians - two.
0:52:08 > 0:52:10'Reasons.
0:52:10 > 0:52:12'Subject one - male.
0:52:12 > 0:52:15'Subject one was ordered to lay on the floor face down.
0:52:15 > 0:52:21'Subject refused order and jumped out the front door of the bank, therefore the subject was shot.
0:52:21 > 0:52:23'Subject two - male.
0:52:23 > 0:52:28'Subject failed or did not hear warning to clear the street.
0:52:28 > 0:52:31'Subject was running down the street toward the bank and Combat Forces
0:52:31 > 0:52:34'accordingly assumed subject was armed Enemy Force element.
0:52:34 > 0:52:37'Therefore the subject was shot.'
0:52:37 > 0:52:43It was Bonnie and Clyde. It was all that kind of thing that's very American, actually, at the core.
0:52:43 > 0:52:48It's just that these guys were just doing it so...artistically.
0:53:57 > 0:53:59The Hibernia Bank, Sunset branch,
0:53:59 > 0:54:04was held up at gunpoint this morning at 9.40.
0:54:04 > 0:54:0810,960 was taken in cash.
0:54:08 > 0:54:10Witnesses state -
0:54:10 > 0:54:15five of the bank robbers entered the bank while four remained outside.
0:54:15 > 0:54:21All made a getaway in two automobiles after firing several shots from automatic weapons.
0:54:21 > 0:54:23In addition, Patricia Campbell Hearst
0:54:23 > 0:54:28has been named in a Federal Warrant charging her with being a material witness to the bank robbery.
0:54:28 > 0:54:32At this point we are simply saying we want to talk to Patricia Hearst.
0:54:35 > 0:54:38I took the tape of Patricia Hearst
0:54:38 > 0:54:43in the bank robbery over to the Berkeley School for the Deaf.
0:54:43 > 0:54:50And they read her lips as to what she was saying in the bank.
0:54:50 > 0:54:52"I'm Tania.
0:54:52 > 0:54:54"Up, up, up against the wall."
0:54:54 > 0:54:56And then everybody giggled because they couldn't say it.
0:54:56 > 0:55:02- I said, "MF?" And they said, "Yeah!" - If that was Patty Hearst, she had her hand on that gun.
0:55:02 > 0:55:08She did have her hands on the trigger and ready to shoot anything that got in her way.
0:55:08 > 0:55:11- PATTY: - Greetings to the people, this is Tania.
0:55:11 > 0:55:18Our action of April 15th forced the Corporate State to help finance the revolution.
0:55:18 > 0:55:24As for being brainwashed, the idea is ridiculous to the point of being beyond belief.
0:55:24 > 0:55:27I am a soldier in the People's Army.
0:55:30 > 0:55:33The FBI looked like a bunch of idiots.
0:55:36 > 0:55:40You know, here they couldn't find this little band of kids.
0:55:42 > 0:55:46They couldn't catch these people. They were putting out communiques.
0:55:46 > 0:55:51They were forcing this stuff to be fed live, unedited,
0:55:51 > 0:55:53to the whole country.
0:55:53 > 0:55:56Sure, they were pissed, man.
0:55:56 > 0:55:59They wanted them dead.
0:55:59 > 0:56:05'To B-Team Commander and all elements of anti-aircraft forces of the SLA,
0:56:05 > 0:56:07'this is Teko speaking.
0:56:07 > 0:56:11'The Malcolm X Combat Unit of the Symbionese Liberation Army left
0:56:11 > 0:56:17'the San Francisco Bay Area in a successful effort to break a massive pig encirclement.
0:56:17 > 0:56:21'It had become clear through intelligence reports that the pigs
0:56:21 > 0:56:25'were preparing to trap us on the San Francisco peninsula.
0:56:25 > 0:56:29The area is very small, surrounded by water, and with limited choices
0:56:29 > 0:56:31for breaking a major encirclement.
0:56:43 > 0:56:45REPORTER: 'A night-time raid on this apartment house
0:56:45 > 0:56:49'gave the FBI its first big break in the three-month search
0:56:49 > 0:56:51'for the Symbionese Liberation Army.
0:56:51 > 0:56:55'Inside the apartment, abandoned last week, agents found terrorist slogans
0:56:55 > 0:56:57'signed by Field Marshall Cinque
0:56:57 > 0:57:03'and also by Tania, the name taken by Patty Hearst.'
0:57:06 > 0:57:08They went to Los Angeles.
0:57:08 > 0:57:15They left a message for the FBI, and Charlie you know, and said, "Beat you again, see you later,"
0:57:15 > 0:57:17and took off.
0:57:17 > 0:57:21< Do you assume that "happy hunting, Charles" was directed at you that was written on that wall?
0:57:21 > 0:57:23I don't know. I haven't seen that.
0:57:23 > 0:57:30There are a lot of people named Charles, Charlie. I haven't lost any sleep over it.
0:57:30 > 0:57:36DeFreeze made some mention of, like, psychological warfare against the police.
0:57:36 > 0:57:40It was like trying to fake the police out.
0:57:40 > 0:57:44But it seemed like he totally lost track of that.
0:57:44 > 0:57:45Well, are you doing this for the police?
0:57:45 > 0:57:47Is the communique for the police?
0:57:47 > 0:57:50Or is it to try to explain to people what you're doing?
0:57:50 > 0:57:53I mean, who is if for? They seem to have lost
0:57:53 > 0:57:57sight of...who are you trying to communicate with?
0:57:57 > 0:58:02Why even worry about the police? Who cares what they think? They hate you, they want to kill you.
0:58:09 > 0:58:16A lot of this is fantasy in their mind. I mean, they're living out a fantasy that's Peter Pan.
0:58:18 > 0:58:21It was like watching a movie,
0:58:21 > 0:58:26and there's the gang that we want to win.
0:58:26 > 0:58:30You know, it was... Oh, we were pulling for them so much!
0:58:30 > 0:58:36But it wasn't like, "Where do we go to join up," or anything like that.
0:58:40 > 0:58:45They could not carry on what they were doing in Los Angeles.
0:58:45 > 0:58:49It was a different culture and they soon found that out.
0:58:49 > 0:58:55DeFreeze might have convinced them that he knew about Los Angeles but he didn't. He was from Cleveland.
0:58:57 > 0:59:04On the late afternoon of May 16, 1974, at Mel's Sporting Goods Store,
0:59:04 > 0:59:11Englewood, California, William Harris attempted to shoplift a pair of socks.
0:59:11 > 0:59:16As William and Emily Harris departed Mel's Sporting Goods,
0:59:16 > 0:59:18a scuffle ensued,
0:59:18 > 0:59:23after which the store employees were the target of fire
0:59:23 > 0:59:26from a van parked across the street.
0:59:26 > 0:59:32Patricia Hearst fired the shots at Mel's Sporting Goods.
0:59:37 > 0:59:39If there had not been the lifting of a pair of sweat socks,
0:59:39 > 0:59:42did you have any indication that they had gone to LA?
0:59:42 > 0:59:45No. We had none as of that time, no.
0:59:45 > 0:59:50Mr Bates, are you saying that you had no idea that they had moved to Los Angeles?
0:59:50 > 0:59:53- That's right.- That's incredible, isn't it?- Is it incredible?
0:59:53 > 0:59:58When we interviewed people who they'd stayed with, they were so stoned out on reds
0:59:58 > 1:00:02they could barely keep their eyes open.
1:00:02 > 1:00:06But they turned them in, too, you know. "Don't burn my house
1:00:06 > 1:00:10"down for your revolution" - that was the attitude.
1:00:12 > 1:00:15'Yes, you do indeed know me.
1:00:15 > 1:00:18'You have always known me.
1:00:18 > 1:00:21'I'm that nigger you have hunted and feared night and day.
1:00:21 > 1:00:24'I'm that nigger you have killed hundreds of my people
1:00:24 > 1:00:26'in a vain hope of finding.
1:00:26 > 1:00:30'That nigger that is no longer just the hunted, robbed and murdered.
1:00:30 > 1:00:34'I'm the nigger that hunts you now.
1:00:34 > 1:00:36'Yes, you know me. You know us all.
1:00:36 > 1:00:37You know me, I'm the wetback.
1:00:40 > 1:00:43'You know me, I'm the wetback, gook, the broad, the servant, the spick.
1:00:43 > 1:00:49'Yes, indeed you know us all, and we know you, the oppressor, murderer and robber.
1:00:49 > 1:00:52'And you have hunted and robbed and exploited us all.
1:00:52 > 1:00:55'Now WE are the hunters that will give you no rest.
1:00:55 > 1:01:00'And we will not compromise the freedom of our children.
1:01:00 > 1:01:04'Death to the fascist insect that preys upon the life of the people.'
1:01:11 > 1:01:15They're getting ready for an assault, and there's no doubt about that.
1:01:15 > 1:01:20Before we stop counting, there's another, about five plainclothes police cars have moved in
1:01:20 > 1:01:26on to the corner, on Compton Avenue here. Officers with weapons, with loaded weapons.
1:01:26 > 1:01:30Ah, now more officers are moving right in the position where we were. So they must be getting ready.
1:01:30 > 1:01:33There's no doubt about that in my mind.
1:01:36 > 1:01:40Occupants of 1466 come out now!
1:01:40 > 1:01:46Come out with your hands up. Come out of the house and you will not be harmed. Come out! Hands up!
1:01:48 > 1:01:53Maybe the people inside the house are thinking, "That's like when the San Francisco police say give up" -
1:01:53 > 1:01:59it means you don't have to right away. But in LA it meant you had to right away.
1:02:03 > 1:02:08- That white house with the two windows there?- As far as I can determine. You've got as close as I have.
1:02:08 > 1:02:12GUNFIRE That's bad! That's bad!
1:02:12 > 1:02:15Stay over on the other side of the street!
1:02:21 > 1:02:24Hey, get out of there! Get out of there, they're shooting that way!
1:02:24 > 1:02:31'We need additional ambulances to come down because we're gonna have some injuries if this keeps up.'
1:02:31 > 1:02:36- Cover this driveway, please! - They're moving us back. They're moving us back.
1:02:36 > 1:02:40This was right at the time when the technology changed
1:02:40 > 1:02:44in television. As far as I know this was the first time something
1:02:44 > 1:02:49like that that wasn't a planned event was actually carried live nationwide.
1:02:49 > 1:02:53I mean, the whole world is watching this shootout.
1:02:53 > 1:02:59'Listen up, because we're going to need your assistance. We need all ammo that we've got in the safe.
1:02:59 > 1:03:04'We're taking automatic fire front and back from this location, they're much better armed than we are.'
1:03:04 > 1:03:08They have more ammunition than the police do which is an incredible thing, it's hard to believe.
1:03:08 > 1:03:14There's no reason to believe we're going to get loose here. We're going to be pinned down here a long time.
1:03:25 > 1:03:31We are on the scene. You can't get closer that we're standing right now and not have your brains blown out.
1:03:31 > 1:03:37Good God! If you ever had a condition, as I said before, where the left doesn't know when it's won,
1:03:37 > 1:03:43if the SLA had thought about it at all, they'd won, they could have given up and made a speech there.
1:03:43 > 1:03:48They had the whole world listening to them. And they decide to fight.
1:03:53 > 1:03:55OK, we got one coming out!
1:04:01 > 1:04:0740 David to CP, authorisation to use fragmentation type grenades?
1:04:16 > 1:04:20- Are they white people? - Back up, back up!
1:04:22 > 1:04:29'She advised that there is a black male and white females within the building.
1:04:30 > 1:04:33'All armed, all firing.'
1:04:33 > 1:04:37RADIO: 'Stay put. Stay put. We have two other crews in the area.'
1:04:37 > 1:04:44- That house is on fire, man! What, smoke grenades?- The fire is raging. Now we've got a better vantage point
1:04:44 > 1:04:47and we're trying to bring you these live pictures as they occur.
1:04:47 > 1:04:50Hold your fire! Everybody, hold your fire!
1:04:50 > 1:04:53'One person was brought out.
1:04:53 > 1:04:55'We haven't seen anyone else come out of there.
1:04:55 > 1:04:58'Of course, we're not really in a position to have seen them, but I believe they would have
1:04:58 > 1:05:01'brought them around this corner and down if they had.
1:05:01 > 1:05:05'And, of course, the obvious conclusion is that the Los Angeles Police
1:05:05 > 1:05:11'have indeed found the nesting place of the Symbionese Liberation Army and there's not much left of it now.'
1:05:22 > 1:05:26They just went in and killed everybody.
1:05:26 > 1:05:28Joe and I heard the whole thing.
1:05:28 > 1:05:30We couldn't see anything
1:05:30 > 1:05:35where we were. We didn't have TV's or anything like that.
1:05:35 > 1:05:37But we heard the whole shootout.
1:05:39 > 1:05:42We kept hoping it wasn't them at first, you know.
1:05:42 > 1:05:49Once we heard them firing thousands of rounds of ammunition and shooting high temperature teargas grenades
1:05:49 > 1:05:55in there and setting the place on fire, eventually we realised that it must be them.
1:05:57 > 1:06:00And we figured, "Well, this is it.
1:06:00 > 1:06:05"This is what we were afraid of and now it's happened".
1:06:17 > 1:06:23'Los Angeles County Coroner, Thomas Naguchi, faced a jam-packed news conference after autopsies
1:06:23 > 1:06:26'were completed on the bodies found in the wreckage of the SLA hideout.'
1:06:26 > 1:06:34'Dr Thomas Naguchi just called the Hearst residence and talked with Mr Hearst just a few minutes ago.
1:06:34 > 1:06:37'He told Mr Hearst that...um...
1:06:37 > 1:06:43'they have examined all of the five bodies taken from that house in Los Angeles,
1:06:43 > 1:06:49'and the conclusion they have reached exactly is that Patty Hearst was not,
1:06:49 > 1:06:54'I repeat, was not in that house yesterday.'
1:07:00 > 1:07:04They knew that Hearst was not in that house. That was all bullshit.
1:07:04 > 1:07:08They knew because of how Bill and Emily and Hearst had gotten away
1:07:08 > 1:07:10and the path that they had
1:07:10 > 1:07:14taken and everything, and when they had surrounded that house and put it under surveillance and all that.
1:07:14 > 1:07:17They knew she wasn't there. That was all bullshit.
1:07:18 > 1:07:22It was quite certain that the Harrises and Patty
1:07:22 > 1:07:26had not gotten back to the residence down there.
1:07:26 > 1:07:29Why there was no negotiation?
1:07:30 > 1:07:32It's not by the book.
1:07:32 > 1:07:34It's not by the book.
1:07:34 > 1:07:37Did they start shooting from the inside out first? I don't know.
1:07:39 > 1:07:43They don't teach you that in hostage negotiation courses, that's for damned sure.
1:07:47 > 1:07:52I think if you took a poll in the Los Angeles area that the citizens
1:07:52 > 1:07:56would not only be supportive of the way
1:07:56 > 1:07:59the police handled it, my feeling is that
1:07:59 > 1:08:02their feeling is one of admiration for the way the police handled it.
1:08:02 > 1:08:05I know that there were some people who said, "Well, gee,
1:08:05 > 1:08:08"instead of telling them to come out in five minutes they should have given them ten minutes".
1:08:08 > 1:08:12Somebody else suggested they should have starved them out.
1:08:12 > 1:08:14You know, these may be well meaning people
1:08:14 > 1:08:18but I think they forget the setting in which the police operated.
1:08:24 > 1:08:27'Greetings to the people.
1:08:27 > 1:08:32'This is Tania. I want to talk about the way I knew our six murdered
1:08:32 > 1:08:36'comrades because the fascist pig media have, of course,
1:08:36 > 1:08:41'been painting a typically distorted picture of these beautiful sisters and brothers.
1:08:41 > 1:08:46'Cinque was in a race with time, believing that every minute must
1:08:46 > 1:08:50'be another step forward in the fight to save the children.
1:08:50 > 1:08:52'Gelina was beautiful.
1:08:52 > 1:08:57'She taught me how to fight the enemy within through her struggle
1:08:57 > 1:08:58'with bourgeois conditioning.'
1:08:58 > 1:09:02'Gabi crouched low with her ass to the ground.
1:09:02 > 1:09:07'She practised until her shotgun was an extension of both her arms.
1:09:07 > 1:09:09'Zoya, female guerrilla.
1:09:09 > 1:09:15Perfect love and perfect hate 'reflected in stone cold eyes.
1:09:15 > 1:09:18'Fahizah taught me to shoot first and make sure the pig is dead
1:09:18 > 1:09:22'before splitting. She was wise and bad.
1:09:22 > 1:09:28'Cujo was the gentlest, most beautiful man I've ever known.
1:09:28 > 1:09:32'He taught me the truth as he learned it from beautiful brothers
1:09:32 > 1:09:35'in California's concentration camps.
1:09:35 > 1:09:39'Neither Cujo or I had ever loved an individual the way we loved each other.
1:09:39 > 1:09:45'Our relationship's foundation was our commitment to the struggle and our love for the people.
1:09:46 > 1:09:52'I died in that fire on 54th Street, but out of the ashes I was reborn.
1:09:52 > 1:09:53'I know what I have to do.'
1:10:01 > 1:10:05I want to talk about the atrocity that took place in Los Angeles.
1:10:05 > 1:10:08I'm really angry, so people have to bear with me.
1:10:08 > 1:10:12I'm still angry for what I saw and the things I heard that went down
1:10:12 > 1:10:14in LA on Saturday afternoon.
1:10:14 > 1:10:15You know, I want to deal with the beginning.
1:10:15 > 1:10:21It takes the actions of SLA to feed poor people in this state,
1:10:21 > 1:10:24throughout the United States of North America.
1:10:24 > 1:10:32It'll take many more SLAs to come along and deal with fascist elements in this fascist, racist country
1:10:32 > 1:10:35that we are confronted with as so-called American citizens.
1:10:35 > 1:10:40Here's the most notorious kidnap victim in the world, travelling
1:10:40 > 1:10:43with the two best known kidnappers
1:10:43 > 1:10:49in the world, and yet they slide into Berkeley unnoticed and are given
1:10:49 > 1:10:51safe refuge almost immediately.
1:10:51 > 1:10:53Cinque, Willie, Camilla,
1:10:53 > 1:10:59Mizmoon and Fahizah were viciously attacked and murdered by 500 pigs
1:10:59 > 1:11:01in LA while the nation watched.
1:11:01 > 1:11:06And now the media is trying to say they were trying to escape by tunnelling
1:11:06 > 1:11:08under the house where they had chickened out at the last minute.
1:11:08 > 1:11:12Well, I believe that Gelina and her comrades fought to the last minute.
1:11:12 > 1:11:19And though I would like to have her be here with me right now, I know that she lived and she died happy.
1:11:19 > 1:11:24SLA soldiers, although I know it's not necessary to say, keep fighting.
1:11:24 > 1:11:27I'm with you, and we are with you.
1:11:27 > 1:11:28Right on!
1:11:32 > 1:11:38The door could have knocked with Emily, Bill or Patty Hearst saying, "God, they're trying to kill us,
1:11:38 > 1:11:43"we need help." They could have knocked on 200 doors in Berkeley and 150 would have hid them out.
1:11:43 > 1:11:47We were just the ones that happened to have the door knocked.
1:11:52 > 1:11:58Bill becomes the new leader of the SLA.
1:11:58 > 1:12:03He's the surviving male guy, the authority figure, and he wants to be
1:12:03 > 1:12:05the new General Field Marshall.
1:12:06 > 1:12:09So General Teko takes over.
1:12:11 > 1:12:13I'd have to say that
1:12:13 > 1:12:16once I met all three of them,
1:12:16 > 1:12:21I was kind of disappointed in how flat they were.
1:12:21 > 1:12:24They didn't seem to be that smart.
1:12:24 > 1:12:28There wasn't a fingernail of charisma among the three of them.
1:12:30 > 1:12:33That was kind of dawning on me,
1:12:33 > 1:12:36how middle class they all seemed.
1:12:36 > 1:12:43'I renounced my class privilege when Cin and Cujo gave me the name Tania.
1:12:43 > 1:12:50'And I would never choose to live the rest of my life surrounded by pigs like the Hearsts.'
1:12:50 > 1:12:55I just hope everybody will remember that physically Patty is still
1:12:55 > 1:12:59a kidnap victim, she was taken away against her will.
1:12:59 > 1:13:05And, psychologically, she's a victim of thought control by terrorists.
1:13:05 > 1:13:11And all I can do is hope and pray that God will bring her home again.
1:13:15 > 1:13:20'Death to the fascist insect that preys upon the life of the people.'
1:13:35 > 1:13:40To this day I can't understand why the need was felt to keep on
1:13:40 > 1:13:46with this kind of militaristic fantasy.
1:13:47 > 1:13:51Just end it and be done with it and good luck.
1:14:13 > 1:14:16These four, as soon as they entered the bank,
1:14:16 > 1:14:21announced that it was a hold-up, everyone to get down on the floor and put their faces in the rug.
1:14:21 > 1:14:25And with that, a shot rang out, hitting Mrs Opsahl.
1:14:30 > 1:14:34The leader of the group told everyone in the bank that,
1:14:34 > 1:14:38if they didn't co-operate, they would receive the same in return.
1:14:38 > 1:14:42With that, two of the individuals vaulted the counter, start scooping up the cash.
1:14:42 > 1:14:46They were kicking people in the head, stepping on their faces
1:14:46 > 1:14:50and just shouting profanity throughout.
1:14:50 > 1:14:53There was nothing left to be gained by the SLA
1:14:53 > 1:14:58at the point of that Carmichael Bank robbery, except money.
1:15:08 > 1:15:11I think the killing scared the hell out of them,
1:15:11 > 1:15:17not just because it would mean the police were after them more, but because
1:15:17 > 1:15:22it was an immoral thing to have happened. It was not something they meant to do.
1:15:22 > 1:15:28And I think that bothered them more than people realise.
1:15:28 > 1:15:30I have family in the world.
1:15:30 > 1:15:33I have friends in the world. I don't want to be thought of as a murderer.
1:15:33 > 1:15:36I don't want to be thought of
1:15:36 > 1:15:40as some fucking maniac that goes and shoots up a bank,
1:15:40 > 1:15:43acting like a radical, leave a woman to die like that!
1:15:49 > 1:15:54Now, if you're asking me, "Well, someone did that."
1:15:54 > 1:15:56Obviously. I wasn't there.
1:15:56 > 1:16:02I didn't do it. If you ask me - can I say 100% that Jim or Kathy
1:16:02 > 1:16:07or Patty or the Harrises or Wendy did or did not do it, I can't say.
1:16:07 > 1:16:10It looks like there's some involvement there, isn't there,
1:16:10 > 1:16:12somewhere along the line? But I don't know.
1:16:12 > 1:16:14They lied about me that bad.
1:16:14 > 1:16:17I don't know.
1:16:17 > 1:16:23I don't know. I can't honestly say on the stand...
1:16:24 > 1:16:30I mean, how am I going to know who is or is not involved if I'm really not involved, you know?
1:16:30 > 1:16:34But... And I don't really care.
1:16:34 > 1:16:36I don't care.
1:16:42 > 1:16:46At 2.25pm, less than 30 minutes ago,
1:16:46 > 1:16:54we arrested Patty Hearst at 625 Morse in the Outer Mission district.
1:16:56 > 1:17:03We did observe two people who looked like they could be Bill and Emily Harris,
1:17:03 > 1:17:06and, as a result, the arrest was made.
1:17:20 > 1:17:22Oh, boy. Here we go, here we go.
1:17:25 > 1:17:27This is it. That's her! Hey, Patty!
1:17:27 > 1:17:28Hey, Patty!
1:17:28 > 1:17:31CHEERING AND WHISTLING
1:17:33 > 1:17:37'But it was Patty Hearst herself who gave a clue that she is a far different person
1:17:37 > 1:17:42'now than the 19-year-old girl who was kidnapped 19 months ago.'
1:17:42 > 1:17:48When asked for her occupation while being booked she told the officer, "urban guerrilla".
1:17:48 > 1:17:53And all these naive radicals just hearing
1:17:53 > 1:17:56what they wanted to hear, basically.
1:17:56 > 1:18:00You know, they wanted a rich person to convert to their cause.
1:18:00 > 1:18:07She was just, they just had a mutual agenda for a while, that's all it was as it turned out.
1:18:07 > 1:18:08We were all fooled.
1:18:12 > 1:18:15I don't believe Patty's legal problems are that serious.
1:18:15 > 1:18:21After all, she's primarily a kidnap victim. She never went off and did anything of her own free will.
1:18:31 > 1:18:34It is probably the mystery story of the 20th century.
1:18:34 > 1:18:38And it finally unfolded today, one version of it, Patty Hearst's
1:18:38 > 1:18:44own version of it, here at the Federal Court House in San Francisco, as the whole world watched.
1:18:44 > 1:18:48It unfolded in this shocking, chilling, and deeply moving affidavit
1:18:48 > 1:18:52filed by Patty Hearst herself through her attorneys.
1:18:52 > 1:18:55She was placed in a closet on the floor.
1:18:55 > 1:19:02The closet was approximately 5 to 6 feet in length and about 2½ or 3 feet in width.
1:19:02 > 1:19:07During all this time she was in a constant state of fear and terror,
1:19:07 > 1:19:12and expected at any moment to be murdered by her captors.
1:19:12 > 1:19:14After an interminable length of time,
1:19:14 > 1:19:17which seemed to her to be weeks,
1:19:17 > 1:19:22she was released from the closet and seated with the gang of captors.
1:19:22 > 1:19:24When the blindfold was removed
1:19:24 > 1:19:27she felt as if she was on an LSD trip.
1:19:27 > 1:19:33Everything appeared so distorted and terrible that she believed and feared she was losing her sanity.
1:19:36 > 1:19:38She was put in an automobile and taken to a site,
1:19:38 > 1:19:44which she now understands was a branch of the Hibernia Bank.
1:19:44 > 1:19:48She was given a gun and directed to stand about in the centre of the bank counter.
1:19:50 > 1:19:53Meanwhile, one of her captors, armed with a gun that was kept
1:19:53 > 1:19:59pointed at her, kept an eye on her, and had told her in advance that if she made one false move
1:19:59 > 1:20:04or did anything except announce her name, she would be killed instantly.
1:20:07 > 1:20:13When she was taken back to her place of captivity, she was told by them that she was now guilty
1:20:13 > 1:20:18of bank robbery and murder and that the FBI would shoot her on sight.
1:20:18 > 1:20:23In her disordered and frightened mind, this appeared to her to be probable.
1:20:23 > 1:20:28And it was so insisted upon by members of the gang that she finally came to believe it.
1:20:28 > 1:20:33Her recollection of everything that transpired up to the time that she was arrested
1:20:33 > 1:20:38has been as though she lived in a fog, in which she was confused,
1:20:38 > 1:20:42still unable to distinguish between actuality and fantasy.
1:21:17 > 1:21:23Part of the dilemma of understanding Patricia Hearst in this whole thing is that
1:21:23 > 1:21:27there are so many obvious opportunities she had
1:21:27 > 1:21:32to simply walk down the street, hail a cab, get in a car,
1:21:32 > 1:21:36call her father, call me, anybody, and it was over.
1:21:36 > 1:21:39She never did.
1:21:52 > 1:21:58Well, this is quite a difference from last time, and thank you all.
1:21:58 > 1:22:01I'm really happy to be going home.
1:22:01 > 1:22:05And I want to thank my parents,
1:22:05 > 1:22:08and my sisters, and Bernie,
1:22:08 > 1:22:10and George too -
1:22:11 > 1:22:15and all of the people on the committee to release me.
1:22:15 > 1:22:18And this is what we worked so hard to get.
1:22:28 > 1:22:34There it is. It's the commutation.
1:22:40 > 1:22:44- Thank you all so much.- Are you going to take a vacation of any kind?
1:22:44 > 1:22:48- I am. Bye-bye. - Where you going?- Oh, I won't tell.
1:22:51 > 1:22:57As far as changing the whole society goes, it was always a pipe dream.
1:22:57 > 1:23:03The true communist state where everybody is a brother to everybody else and we all share everything
1:23:03 > 1:23:09and, you know, everybody lives happily ever after. I mean, I would've been fine with that.
1:23:09 > 1:23:11But, yeah I know I'm older now.
1:23:11 > 1:23:16People, they're working, they're paying their mortgage, they're worrying about their kids, you know.
1:23:16 > 1:23:20But when you're 21, 22, 23 years old...
1:23:20 > 1:23:23I was 24 years old when I was arrested.
1:23:23 > 1:23:27People talk about, "Hearst was only 19." Hey, we were all young.
1:23:43 > 1:23:46Four former Symbionese Liberation Army members,
1:23:46 > 1:23:51accused of murdering a Carmichael woman during a bank robbery in 1975, plead guilty today.
1:23:51 > 1:23:57'In court, four of the SLA members who pulled off the heist,
1:23:57 > 1:23:59'apologized 27 years after Myrna Opsahl was killed
1:23:59 > 1:24:01'in a bank robbery in Carmichael.'
1:24:04 > 1:24:08Each entered a plea of guilty of murder in the second degree.
1:24:08 > 1:24:13Mr Harris admitted that he was armed during the commission of the crime.
1:24:13 > 1:24:16This is the time and the place for judgment and sentence.
1:24:16 > 1:24:21The defendants will be remanded into custody to serve prison sentences.
1:24:24 > 1:24:28As I stated last time,
1:24:28 > 1:24:31the fact that...
1:24:31 > 1:24:35Mrs Opsahl was murdered unintentionally in the bank
1:24:35 > 1:24:39is of no consequence to the family.
1:24:39 > 1:24:46Or the fact that we beat ourselves up more than anyone could,
1:24:46 > 1:24:50and really alienated ourselves from what we believed in
1:24:50 > 1:24:53and ostracized ourselves.
1:24:53 > 1:24:56And that's probably the saddest thing about
1:24:56 > 1:25:01these kinds of cases, whether you're well intentioned or poor intentioned
1:25:01 > 1:25:04or not, there's not a good result.
1:25:04 > 1:25:10A woman is dead and many people suffer from those consequences.
1:25:10 > 1:25:15And I can offer nothing but my apologies and...
1:25:18 > 1:25:20I'm sorry.
1:25:33 > 1:25:36Miss Montague will be sentenced to eight years in prison.
1:25:36 > 1:25:39Mr Harris will be sentenced to seven years in prison.
1:25:39 > 1:25:42Miss Olsen will be sentenced to six years in prison.
1:25:42 > 1:25:45Mr Bortin will be sentenced to six years in prison.
1:25:45 > 1:25:48APPLAUSE
1:25:48 > 1:25:54Now my next guest went from kidnap victim to terrorist.
1:25:54 > 1:25:57She was once the most wanted woman in America.
1:26:17 > 1:26:19Take a seat.
1:26:19 > 1:26:25It is truly remarkable to meet you because you are a part of all our history.
1:26:25 > 1:26:29It's something that intrigues everybody.
1:26:29 > 1:26:34Just to get an idea of why the kidnap happened, you were the grand-daughter of William Randolph Hearst.
1:26:34 > 1:26:37Your family were supremely rich.
1:26:37 > 1:26:40What was your childhood like?
1:26:40 > 1:26:44What was life like living like that?
1:26:44 > 1:26:49Well, it was great. I think it was really pretty perfect.
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