0:00:00 > 0:00:04Would you struggle if you had to work overseas? Ever surprise
0:00:04 > 0:00:11yourself with what you can do? sounds too straightforward. There
0:00:11 > 0:00:16must be something missing. For it to sing this easy. Or would you
0:00:16 > 0:00:21find it difficult making up your mind? I am no good at making
0:00:21 > 0:00:31decisions. The one thing I decided doing was wrong. Whatever your
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0:00:56 > 0:01:00problems with work, this is BBC Good evening! Welcome, welcome to
0:01:00 > 0:01:05the programme. Since we started on Monday, you have been bombarding
0:01:05 > 0:01:09our website, Facebook Page and Twitter feed with the issues that
0:01:09 > 0:01:14concern you. One of the things you have been talking about is nepotism.
0:01:14 > 0:01:21We will be discussing that later, and catching up with Sacha, Ben,
0:01:21 > 0:01:25Kirsty and Chris, the stars of our show. They started with a minimum
0:01:25 > 0:01:35wage jobs at a theme park, but tonight, things get more glamourous,
0:01:35 > 0:01:36
0:01:36 > 0:01:46as they are working for a high end wedding planner! We also have with
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0:01:46 > 0:01:56us and EastEnders actress. The highly opinionated decrease of
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0:02:10 > 0:02:16We really want to hear from you. Tonight, we are asking if... We are
0:02:16 > 0:02:22asking the best way to get a job, through qualifications or contact?
0:02:22 > 0:02:28To you only get your job thanks to your dad? Did bad for it in the
0:02:28 > 0:02:33door belong to a family friend? 80% of jobs come from personal
0:02:33 > 0:02:42connections instead of ads. Do you think that nepotism is now the only
0:02:42 > 0:02:49way to get a job? Have you cheated? We are live, and we want to hear
0:02:49 > 0:02:57what you think. To tell you had to get in touch, from Radio 1, here is
0:02:57 > 0:03:07Tina Daheley! Thank you. Good evening. Yes, tell us a great story
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0:03:12 > 0:03:22about how you got a job, with or You can also interact with us on a
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0:03:24 > 0:03:34What you are there, you can find out how to join us here in the
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0:03:37 > 0:03:42It is our final might tomorrow. Our for recruits are here. Coast, Ben,
0:03:42 > 0:03:47Sacha and Chris, good to see you again. Having a nice week? Broadly?
0:03:47 > 0:03:52They have been fast-forwarded through an entire lifetime's career
0:03:52 > 0:03:59in a matter of days. They started at the bottom on Monday, Sacha was
0:03:59 > 0:04:04clearing up pony crab, and they have been working their way up.
0:04:04 > 0:04:14have been unemployed for seven months. You need to be more
0:04:14 > 0:04:21
0:04:21 > 0:04:26I feel like I'm letting my children down by not having a career. I want
0:04:26 > 0:04:31to come back from a high day's work and not checking how everything is
0:04:31 > 0:04:39every five minutes. I thought I didn't need qualifications and I
0:04:39 > 0:04:46thought my personality would see me through. I would say close to a
0:04:46 > 0:04:54year now. The other days, I'm thinking, what went wrong. Perhaps
0:04:54 > 0:05:04you struggle to delegate. That is terrible! I put a lot of effort
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0:05:06 > 0:05:10into it. To get squashed, it is hard to take. Moments of drama.
0:05:10 > 0:05:15Tonight, they are facing their biggest challenge yet, negotiating
0:05:15 > 0:05:25for a high-end wedding planner. If they can cope, they can cope with
0:05:25 > 0:05:35The fast-forward Korea's of our recruits are about to get an
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0:05:47 > 0:05:51Good morning, my name is James Lord. I'm looking for a location
0:05:51 > 0:05:56executive who will go to three venues in each location. Kirsty,
0:05:56 > 0:06:02you will be flying to Spain to negotiate a venue in Andalusia.
0:06:02 > 0:06:06Sacha comedy will be flying to Italy to negotiate the news. Chris,
0:06:06 > 0:06:11you will be flying to France to negotiate venues on the code does
0:06:11 > 0:06:19off. And Ben, you'll be flying to Switzerland to negotiate with
0:06:19 > 0:06:29venues in Geneva. Excited! Just to say, this is not a holiday, it is
0:06:29 > 0:06:30
0:06:30 > 0:06:35work. In 48 hours, each recruit must return to the UK with a
0:06:35 > 0:06:40perfect five-star wedding package to pitch to James. At the moment,
0:06:40 > 0:06:46I'm trying to stay as calm as possible. They will have to visit
0:06:46 > 0:06:50five * locations. And attempt to strike a deal when James's behalf.
0:06:50 > 0:06:56The ability to negotiate a good rate of commission is vital.
0:06:56 > 0:07:03expect a minimum of 10% of the total wages and budget. -- wedding
0:07:03 > 0:07:09budget. It is a challenge that Kirsty is doing everything she can
0:07:09 > 0:07:19to prepare for. I am covering all bases, trying to get to know the
0:07:19 > 0:07:32
0:07:32 > 0:07:38She is even prepared to exaggerate. We can get up to 25%. No, it is too
0:07:38 > 0:07:46much for us. I don't think they believed we could get 25%. No
0:07:46 > 0:07:50negotiator, I am polite! commission goes from 10 to 15%.
0:07:50 > 0:07:56did initiate hands with him on the deal we were knocking out, stupidly.
0:07:56 > 0:08:01The one thing I didn't think was the end of the negotiation. There
0:08:01 > 0:08:08is no way of putting you on that 10%? And Ben has had to get
0:08:08 > 0:08:13creative. The other venues were charging 15%. I can't really go
0:08:13 > 0:08:19back to my boss and be like, this is a great place. The commission is
0:08:19 > 0:08:26just the commission, I cannot budge on that. And in Italy. We give a
0:08:26 > 0:08:34commission of 10%. Sacha faces a steep learning curve. 10.5? A what
0:08:34 > 0:08:40does it mean, 10.5? Doesn't make sense for me. Next time I know, a
0:08:40 > 0:08:46percentage of 0.5 is no good, go to 11. On the French Riviera...
0:08:46 > 0:08:54Sweating already! Chris is planning a more direct approach. Would you
0:08:54 > 0:09:00be able to go for 13%? So on accommodation, either we keep the
0:09:00 > 0:09:0610% commission and you have a free upgrade, all we keep the standard
0:09:06 > 0:09:09rooms and the exclusive rooms, with the 13% commission. It sounds too
0:09:09 > 0:09:16straightforward, there must be something missing, for me to feel
0:09:16 > 0:09:23comfortable doing it, and for it to sing this easy. -- scene of this
0:09:23 > 0:09:29easy. It is like a fantasy!. Like something you would see in a film.
0:09:29 > 0:09:33Sacha has one final opportunity to prove her negotiating skills.
0:09:33 > 0:09:41not thinking how I'm going to act, when I stopped in pressure on is
0:09:41 > 0:09:48when I go wrong. We don't normally give a commission. I would go for
0:09:48 > 0:09:53eight, my lowest. I would say no need to you. Three weddings, high
0:09:53 > 0:10:01season. When you have got two or three puddings a year to offer me,
0:10:01 > 0:10:06then I could think about it. Thanks very much. So that is why have
0:10:06 > 0:10:13recorded the balcony on the Riviera. We have a private helipad. At his
0:10:13 > 0:10:19final venue... Chris is on a roll. I would be quite happy to go up to
0:10:19 > 0:10:2515% on the accommodation. But he is not stopping there. Every Tommy
0:10:25 > 0:10:31said something, I thought of something else I want. Would you be
0:10:31 > 0:10:37willing to do a deal on this part? You know you do couples, for the
0:10:37 > 0:10:44bride and groom? We could have a half day, complimentary spot
0:10:44 > 0:10:48treatment. I'm happy with that. My negotiation went down quite well.
0:10:48 > 0:10:58Some of the staff on their, is probably what I would earn in a
0:10:58 > 0:11:08
0:11:08 > 0:11:15Funny ending! You were loving that, right? You just seem to deny it,
0:11:15 > 0:11:20you seemed confident. Yeah, it was a really good. I was comfortable, I
0:11:21 > 0:11:25was in France. I thought, let's try and get the most out of it. Sacha,
0:11:25 > 0:11:31you had trouble with working out percentages. Had been a long time
0:11:31 > 0:11:35since I was at school, that wasn't the best moment. Kirsty, you didn't
0:11:35 > 0:11:40shake on the deal? It is funny, he called me a couple of weeks later,
0:11:40 > 0:11:47and were still convinced there was a deal going down. I felt like I
0:11:47 > 0:11:54did it make the deal, handshake is symbolic! Had you think you did,
0:11:54 > 0:11:59Ben? Could have done better, but did OK. Never mind. It is
0:11:59 > 0:12:04fascinating to meet you got three different days on this, and of
0:12:04 > 0:12:09course, you all unemployed. You have got degrees, you guys haven't.
0:12:09 > 0:12:15What a dream a little did that was, flying to four of the most
0:12:15 > 0:12:19glamourous parts of the planet! got a bit excited! It was beautiful,
0:12:19 > 0:12:25and it was a job, but it was amazing at the same time. Let's
0:12:26 > 0:12:30hear from Sarah, would you make of that? That is not easy. To do that
0:12:30 > 0:12:40in your own country, I would have been impressed, but to fly abroad,
0:12:40 > 0:12:46
0:12:46 > 0:12:54I think, hats off to all of you, Grace, stylist, what did you make
0:12:54 > 0:13:01of that? Non- AD you could speak any language is! What is going on?
0:13:01 > 0:13:11-- any languages. All you need to do as a Brit when you go abroad...
0:13:11 > 0:13:14
0:13:14 > 0:13:18A talk louder! Adopt a patronising But that's a British classic thing
0:13:18 > 0:13:22isn't it, we are all arrogant when it comes to learning a language?
0:13:22 > 0:13:27don't think so. I think a lot more people now are learning languages,
0:13:27 > 0:13:34so it's kind of become a trend, you know, like at uni, a lot of people
0:13:34 > 0:13:42are learning. For me, Kirsty did well, I was awful at it, but maybe
0:13:42 > 0:13:46that was something teenagers should start doing. The next film is
0:13:46 > 0:13:56interesting and we have to come up with some creative ideas. Now, you
0:13:56 > 0:13:57
0:13:57 > 0:14:01If you get a job through nepotism, have you cheated? Anybody who has
0:14:01 > 0:14:09had a job given directly to them by a family member or friend? Put your
0:14:09 > 0:14:13hands up if you've ever had a job because of a family member? I think
0:14:13 > 0:14:17we need more honesty. Come on, that's three people. OK, let's go
0:14:17 > 0:14:27to, actually, let me come to some of you in a moment. Who gets
0:14:27 > 0:14:52
0:14:52 > 0:14:56You got leapfrogged out? Yes. obvious you are aggrieved by that?
0:14:56 > 0:15:06Yes, sorry. Don't be, you are passionate about it, that's fine.
0:15:06 > 0:15:15Who's given a job to a relative. Yes Sir, Charlie? Yes. Tell us what
0:15:15 > 0:15:20you do? I employ seven relatives. You do what? Seven. Seven?!
0:15:20 > 0:15:24children, one wife, who son-in-laws. Actually a couple of grandchildren
0:15:24 > 0:15:27come in on Saturday and clean the vans. That's how businesses
0:15:27 > 0:15:31continue, the children come through the business, they are going to
0:15:31 > 0:15:36eventually take it over, put other people into work, so I think it's a
0:15:36 > 0:15:41bit of sour grapes over there. point is though that she was better
0:15:41 > 0:15:46than the candidate. That's what she says. I had to train that person up.
0:15:46 > 0:15:50It doesn't mean you were better though, does it? Excuse me, if you
0:15:50 > 0:15:56are training somebody how to do a job and I was doing the job before
0:15:56 > 0:16:06that person showed up b she was on holiday, doing jollys with her
0:16:06 > 0:16:06
0:16:06 > 0:16:16mates in Monaco. So she didn't know anything about the job. She was in
0:16:16 > 0:16:49
0:16:49 > 0:16:53Isn't the problem though that it's hard to sack a relative? Yes. I
0:16:53 > 0:16:58actually employed my wife as well and had to sack her three times.
0:16:58 > 0:17:02You sacked her three times. OK. You didn't learn that lesson!
0:17:02 > 0:17:07Over to Tina. What are people saying online? It's not what you
0:17:07 > 0:17:13know, it's who you know getting a lot of reaction online. Sharon is
0:17:13 > 0:17:17saying it's useful so contacts can useful but not always helpful. I've
0:17:17 > 0:17:22asked various people for help getting jobs, they haven't helped
0:17:22 > 0:17:27me. Chloe disagrees, it's all about who you know, it's extremely unfair
0:17:27 > 0:17:37and stupid which is pretty much to the point.
0:17:37 > 0:17:44This is Tim here. Tim, I believe you are a member of the Thai Royal
0:17:44 > 0:17:54Family? Yes. Did you get your job through nepotism? Obviously not and
0:17:54 > 0:17:54
0:17:54 > 0:18:43Apology for the loss of subtitles for 49 seconds
0:18:43 > 0:18:50I started an internship. At one of the largest in the world, three
0:18:50 > 0:18:55weeks into the internship, they employed me. Did you get an
0:18:55 > 0:19:01internship because of your family? And not at all. 500 people's got
0:19:01 > 0:19:10the same intense across the city. I wouldn't say it luck, but it was
0:19:10 > 0:19:20the way to get it. You were a builder? I am, by trade. A Andy
0:19:20 > 0:19:20
0:19:20 > 0:19:29Goode into television? I work on the only way is Essex. That is
0:19:29 > 0:19:35exciting! Did you know someone? didn't know anyone. I was
0:19:35 > 0:19:42passionate, I really, really wanted to work in telly. I care about it,
0:19:42 > 0:19:49and I think, if I am passionate and I care, and strive for it, you can
0:19:49 > 0:19:54get what you want. I kept on people's backs, I sent letters, e-
0:19:54 > 0:20:00mails, I don't have any GCSEs, but after about a year, I got a phone
0:20:00 > 0:20:05call, went in for a chat and a black did. Since then, the ball
0:20:05 > 0:20:15started rolling. Can it is who you know. You just work hard, you get
0:20:15 > 0:20:27
0:20:27 > 0:20:33in. Well done, mate! Over there, yes? High, nepotism I don't think
0:20:33 > 0:20:36is the problem. Everybody has to have three important things -
0:20:36 > 0:20:42qualifications, knowing the right people in terms of meeting them,
0:20:42 > 0:20:47and then using the contacts, and it is not impossible to meet new
0:20:47 > 0:20:51people, or people higher up by those people, and I come from the
0:20:51 > 0:21:01lowest place in the world. It is possible to go from nowhere and
0:21:01 > 0:21:04
0:21:04 > 0:21:07build yourself up. What does that What are people saying, Tina?
0:21:07 > 0:21:10very mixed response. Lee says knowing somebody in a company will
0:21:10 > 0:21:16only help you if you're qualified and experienced enough to do the
0:21:16 > 0:21:26job and even then it will get you so far. 02 have got in touch saying
0:21:26 > 0:21:30they disagree saying it's not what you know, it's who you are.
0:21:30 > 0:21:36First choice Holidays say knowing someone in the industry can be a
0:21:36 > 0:21:39massive help but won't let you get the job or help you progress.
0:21:39 > 0:21:43Another one. If you know a person in the company, you have ten times
0:21:43 > 0:21:46more chance of getting a job. Richard.
0:21:46 > 0:21:50Very interesting comments, aren't they, I mean they're all fairly
0:21:50 > 0:21:54accurate in their own way I think, aren't they. Over the last couple
0:21:54 > 0:21:57of nights, we have seen companies like Hilton Worldwide, Argos and
0:21:57 > 0:22:01Starbucks offering paid jobs to people who applied a few weeks ago
0:22:01 > 0:22:05via the website and they came down to see us in the studio and they've
0:22:05 > 0:22:09been looking for jobs for a long time. Tonight, Virgin Media and
0:22:10 > 0:22:13Scottish power will be announcing the names of the future employees
0:22:13 > 0:22:17who they found through our Up For Hire website. The placements offer
0:22:17 > 0:22:26three months, that's what they've been all week, but one of Virgin
0:22:26 > 0:22:32Media's is for a one-year apprenticeship. A one-year
0:22:32 > 0:22:36apprenticeship, a round of applause. What a great opportunity.
0:22:36 > 0:22:41Helen Scott is here from Virgin Media and Keith Anderson from
0:22:41 > 0:22:46Scottish Power. Welcome. Thank you. Good Evening to you both. Helen did
0:22:46 > 0:22:49you get your job through nepotism, did you get your job at Virgin
0:22:49 > 0:22:53Media through family connections? Absolutely not, didn't know anyone
0:22:53 > 0:22:57that worked there before. Keith, is your dad the Chief Executive of
0:22:57 > 0:23:03Scottish Power? No, he's not, I am. What, you are the Chief Executive
0:23:03 > 0:23:07of Scottish Power? Yes. What is your title? A people director.
0:23:08 > 0:23:13a Chief Executive. I hadn't been warned! I could have worn a tie or
0:23:13 > 0:23:19something. Tell us about these positions that are pretty
0:23:19 > 0:23:23impressive, tell us more about them? We have a one-year placement
0:23:23 > 0:23:27as an apprentice technician, a network apprentice and a three
0:23:27 > 0:23:32month placement for somebody to work in our fantastic retail store.
0:23:32 > 0:23:36Very much a message for the company there. Keith tell us about jobs you
0:23:36 > 0:23:41are offering? We have one job in the renewables control centre where
0:23:41 > 0:23:44we produce enough power for 700,000 homes, one job in Shoreham power
0:23:44 > 0:23:49station on the south coast and two jobs in our distribution control
0:23:49 > 0:23:52centre which is where we control the power to keep the lights on in
0:23:52 > 0:23:56your house. They sound like fascinating jobs. Tell me about the
0:23:56 > 0:24:00applications and how many you have got. The previous jobs this week
0:24:00 > 0:24:06were inundated with apply cases, we heard that story this week about
0:24:06 > 0:24:11500 people going for a job at Poundland, you didn't get that many,
0:24:11 > 0:24:15did you? No, we were disappointed with the number of applicants, we
0:24:15 > 0:24:19need more engineers, it's one of the fastest growth areas. We are
0:24:19 > 0:24:25investing billions over the next few years, creating an awful lot of
0:24:25 > 0:24:28jobs and work and people need to get involved. Tell us, on the
0:24:28 > 0:24:32applications that you came in, what were the classic mistakes? Five of
0:24:32 > 0:24:36the people didn't actually fill out the application form, they just
0:24:36 > 0:24:40uploaded their CV and that's not particularly clever and a lot of
0:24:40 > 0:24:44people just didn't answer the question, you know. We want detail
0:24:44 > 0:24:48and we want people to really show us the experiences. Never just send
0:24:48 > 0:24:51your CV directly there, always fill in the form? Not if we have asked
0:24:51 > 0:24:56you to fill out a form because we are asking the questions for a
0:24:56 > 0:25:00reason. Thank you very much. A Chief Executive, gosh! Later on,
0:25:00 > 0:25:08we'll be meeting the people who got the jobs, but some of those who
0:25:08 > 0:25:12didn't are getting expert help from two companies from Fresh Minds and
0:25:12 > 0:25:15inspiring internships. You can come into the studio tomorrow. Get in
0:25:15 > 0:25:19touch with us, load of people have watched the show earlier in the
0:25:19 > 0:25:26week. Come to see us and you could be in the workshops. Back to Chris,
0:25:26 > 0:25:29Sacha, Kirsty and Ben who're on a mission to impress James.
0:25:29 > 0:25:34Jaiment's next challenge for his new employees is all about
0:25:35 > 0:25:38creativity -- jails. I've given them the assignment of create ago
0:25:38 > 0:25:43wow factor to accompany any wedding that happens in the region. Could
0:25:43 > 0:25:46be something to do with food, transport, anything they want.
0:25:46 > 0:25:51have to research and deliver unique and unforgettable experiences that
0:25:51 > 0:26:00can be organised around their chosen wedding venues. Because of
0:26:00 > 0:26:05the lake, I want to see if we could maybe get a boat for the couple. Do
0:26:05 > 0:26:10you know anyone with big boat? Do you get little bit nervous because
0:26:10 > 0:26:14I don't want to get it wrong... A yacht Club, boats. On the drive
0:26:14 > 0:26:19over here, I kind of decided I would select this place. This is
0:26:20 > 0:26:25the land we'll be using to plant the trees. Kirsty has tracked down
0:26:25 > 0:26:29her wow factor. My wow extra would be to plant a tree to symbolise
0:26:29 > 0:26:37that you have been married and olive trees are resilient and can
0:26:37 > 0:26:40live in really terrible conditions. But she's beginning to worry about
0:26:40 > 0:26:44her choice of venue. Not sure I've made the right decision. Not sure
0:26:44 > 0:26:51whether this one is five stars and I think the other two definitely
0:26:51 > 0:26:58are. Didn't bring my hiking shoes!
0:26:58 > 0:27:08I'm not 100% sure where I am at the moment, but I saw a vineyard.
0:27:08 > 0:27:10
0:27:10 > 0:27:12is attempting to put together an exclusive wine-tasting event.
0:27:12 > 0:27:17Anglaise. From my little bit of French I know, he's saying this is
0:27:17 > 0:27:22the place here. He's neglected a crucial aspect of James's second
0:27:22 > 0:27:29challenge. I haven't really done any research really so I'm reaping
0:27:29 > 0:27:37the consequences of that, I guess. Speak Anglaise. Chris's choice of
0:27:37 > 0:27:41venue has encouraged him to aim higher for his wow factor. I want a
0:27:41 > 0:27:44helicopter involved now. There's a monastery on an island and,
0:27:44 > 0:27:52apparently, they make their own wine. You can have a bottle of wine
0:27:52 > 0:27:59dated on your wedding day. That's my plan. Helicopter, monks.
0:27:59 > 0:28:07Do you rent out helicopters? Yes, we do. To this one? Yes. How much
0:28:07 > 0:28:13is it? 1,200 euros. I want to make it perfect. If I can get the only
0:28:13 > 0:28:19pleat package, I'll be happy. big. Sacha has yet to find her
0:28:19 > 0:28:23dream boat. Like a pirate boat is what I'm thinking. Time is ticking
0:28:23 > 0:28:27and ticking and ticking. But she's stumbled on a lead. This is what
0:28:27 > 0:28:31I'm thinking here. I saw a picture, it had everything, the history
0:28:31 > 0:28:35behind it that the island had and I thought, if I put them together, it
0:28:35 > 0:28:45would be the dream. So I need to go to the area that I think it's
0:28:45 > 0:28:47
0:28:47 > 0:28:57Chris needs permission to land a helicopter from the winemaking
0:28:57 > 0:28:59
0:28:59 > 0:29:05monks. You can speak in French now! You speak French? I don't, I wish I
0:29:05 > 0:29:12could. Would I be able to land a helicopter on the island? That is
0:29:12 > 0:29:22not easy. Not easy. Is there anywhere that could possibly...
0:29:22 > 0:29:26must study the... We have to think about it. At least there is a
0:29:26 > 0:29:30possibility of that. He definitely said may be about having a
0:29:30 > 0:29:35helicopter. They said they have never landed a helicopter on the
0:29:35 > 0:29:43island ever, so for him to say may be was quite good. A bit of success
0:29:43 > 0:29:49of there. I'm negotiating with mugs now! -- monks. It has not been such
0:29:49 > 0:29:56a successful day for Ben. I have got to rely on phone calls now.
0:29:56 > 0:30:02for Kirsty. I am no good at making decisions. The one thing I decided
0:30:02 > 0:30:09on doing is actually wrong. This is what I'm talking about. This has
0:30:09 > 0:30:14got the character, the romance. It shouts Italian, it shouts romance.
0:30:14 > 0:30:24This will go with the whole dream of the island, the private island,
0:30:24 > 0:30:31
0:30:31 > 0:30:36the private boat, and I'm so proud, Wow! Monks and helicopters,
0:30:36 > 0:30:41together at last! A did you like it? It is impressive, that is
0:30:41 > 0:30:51proper wow factor. I thought it was all right. I think it is something
0:30:51 > 0:30:55I wanted to do. Helicopters! Kirsty, yours wasn't... Your wow factor
0:30:55 > 0:31:02appeared to be planting an olive tree on some scrub ground near some
0:31:02 > 0:31:07pigs. He doesn't look as good as it could have done. To start with, it
0:31:07 > 0:31:11was winding down to the couple going anywhere down, and olive
0:31:11 > 0:31:20trees are very resilient, they could come back next year, in 10
0:31:20 > 0:31:26years... To it is the sort of place you find a murder victims. You were
0:31:26 > 0:31:31not there, Richard, it is quite a nice place! Ben, who struggled a
0:31:31 > 0:31:37bid? I did, I let myself down by not doing any research. You feel
0:31:38 > 0:31:43bad about it? Chris did an amazing job, and I didn't do anything. But
0:31:43 > 0:31:48you learn from your mistakes. didn't have Monks! You have got to
0:31:48 > 0:31:53deal with the cards you were built. They didn't negotiate, he didn't
0:31:53 > 0:31:59know that. I could tell you a lot of things, but you saw the footage,
0:31:59 > 0:32:02I make mistakes. As we have seen, some a job estate duty much sunnier
0:32:03 > 0:32:07places than Shepherd's Bush on a Wednesday night. But how far would
0:32:07 > 0:32:10you be willing to travel for work? Earlier this month, Conservatives
0:32:10 > 0:32:15said unemployed people would lose their benefits if they refused to
0:32:15 > 0:32:22take jobs up to 90 minutes away from where they lived. So should
0:32:22 > 0:32:28you need everything you love, your home, to find work? Grace. Haven't
0:32:28 > 0:32:32we heard this before? Norman Tebbit said Dad. And it is the Tories that
0:32:32 > 0:32:38key bringing it back. I moved to New York for my career, but there
0:32:38 > 0:32:42is a difference between a job and a career. Sarah? I totally agree with
0:32:42 > 0:32:49that, a totally depends where you of your life and your priorities.
0:32:49 > 0:32:53In my twenties, I moved all over the world. Now I have young kids. I
0:32:53 > 0:32:59wouldn't move. That distinction between a job and a career is quite
0:32:59 > 0:33:04a big one. James, we will be with you in a minute! Anyone here would
0:33:04 > 0:33:12consider moving away from their home and family? Anyone here refuse
0:33:12 > 0:33:19to do that? What is your name? Layla. It depends what you're
0:33:19 > 0:33:23priority is. If your priority is to get that job, then move. If family
0:33:23 > 0:33:26and close friend is where your family comes from, don't sacrifice
0:33:26 > 0:33:33that for an employer, because they will never care for you as much as
0:33:33 > 0:33:39your family. So you would not made a wait for a job? Nerve. Are you
0:33:39 > 0:33:44employed at the moment? Not at the moment. But only locally. Only in
0:33:44 > 0:33:49Surrey or London to stop what if you were offered a really good job
0:33:49 > 0:33:55in Glasgow? There is no way I'm going to another job as much as I
0:33:55 > 0:33:59love my family. I can't sacrifice that. So who is paying for you in
0:33:59 > 0:34:0310 years when you still haven't got a job? You might be lucky someone
0:34:03 > 0:34:07can look for you and you don't have to pay benefit, but if you lost the
0:34:07 > 0:34:12what working because you will not look after your family, who is
0:34:12 > 0:34:15looking after you? This is London. People around the world are jealous
0:34:15 > 0:34:20of people who live in London, if you can't find opportunity here,
0:34:20 > 0:34:25that I am sorry, but what is the point of travelling halfway round
0:34:25 > 0:34:31the world? You agree that she should be able to claim benefit?
0:34:31 > 0:34:36am not. But some people, if they don't work, they have to claim
0:34:36 > 0:34:42benefit, and if you will not work away from a home, that is a no win
0:34:42 > 0:34:47situation. Where is D'Arcy? You wanted to say that something about
0:34:47 > 0:34:51that film? I thought he was incredible in that film, he showed
0:34:51 > 0:34:55vast potential and was really confident. However, in a situation
0:34:55 > 0:35:01where the camera crew wasn't there, I struggled to see him getting a
0:35:01 > 0:35:06foot in the door in a luxury events company. After this the touch, I
0:35:06 > 0:35:11think they will be knocking on his door. Without this situation, I
0:35:11 > 0:35:17couldn't see it happening. More from you guys later, I promise.
0:35:17 > 0:35:23Some people are clearly prepared to travel to work. But would you be so
0:35:23 > 0:35:30keen if these jobs were at the end of it? The worst job I ever had
0:35:30 > 0:35:37was... Cutting peppers. I couldn't cut them quick enough. Moving
0:35:37 > 0:35:41shingle off a roof. Working in an abattoir. I worked in a bar in my
0:35:41 > 0:35:46home town. The second roughest part in the town, which was fairly rough.
0:35:46 > 0:35:50At the end of the night there would be a pint pot full of sick. Down
0:35:50 > 0:35:57the chute would come the guts. You had to separate them. The has glass
0:35:57 > 0:36:01collectors, we had to separate them out. Ripping off fat off the rib
0:36:02 > 0:36:11cages was pretty horrible. It was disgusting. You would have thought
0:36:12 > 0:36:19
0:36:19 > 0:36:23that would put me off pork, but it And now, it is not every 17-year-
0:36:23 > 0:36:30old whose career history reads, junior hairdresser, Saturday
0:36:30 > 0:36:40waitress, EastEnders actress. Actually, you on 19! Daniel Harold
0:36:40 > 0:36:42
0:36:42 > 0:36:51is here. -- Danielle. Your story is fascinating and inspiring. You were
0:36:51 > 0:36:55on a Jamie Oliver's programme, a few months ago. Four months ago now.
0:36:55 > 0:37:00That is where he set up a school and got mentors to train people.
0:37:00 > 0:37:06From that can be good a drama coach, Dean to EastEnders. It gave me so
0:37:06 > 0:37:10many opportunities, as I'm sure it does for you guys, on this show. It
0:37:10 > 0:37:15is great to have opportunities like this. We were talking about
0:37:15 > 0:37:21nepotism earlier. A kind of made my own contacts from the show, and
0:37:21 > 0:37:26used it to my advantage. Sitting up night after night applying for
0:37:26 > 0:37:33drama schools, drama shows, documentaries. I finally got into
0:37:33 > 0:37:38Jenny's Dream School. Did you watch Katharine Tait's hair? I was
0:37:38 > 0:37:43working in a hairdresser's in Covent garden for �3.20 an hour off.
0:37:43 > 0:37:48I remember she came in, I got so excited. I washed her hair and I
0:37:48 > 0:37:54thought, she is what I want to be, acting is what I really want to do.
0:37:54 > 0:38:01So why quit the day after. Really? I thought, if I'm not going to do
0:38:01 > 0:38:07what I'm happy in, just go for it. What kind of what she did she have?
0:38:07 > 0:38:11Shampoo and conditioner, just normal. Coming back to nepotism in
0:38:11 > 0:38:16acting, a lot of people get into it because their parents are in the
0:38:16 > 0:38:21theatre trade, although without profession, you can only progress
0:38:21 > 0:38:26if they are good. But a lot of people get into it because of their
0:38:26 > 0:38:29family. There is not a lot of opportunities in the world at the
0:38:29 > 0:38:33moment, but if you have the contacts, you might as well use
0:38:34 > 0:38:43them to your advantage, no one else is going to help you. How long will
0:38:44 > 0:38:53
0:38:53 > 0:38:58you be in EastEnders? Forever! I Right. In just a moment, we will
0:38:58 > 0:39:02find out which of these guys here did enough in their interviews to
0:39:02 > 0:39:06be offered the job by either Bergin media or Scottish Power. They have
0:39:06 > 0:39:11already been told one way or the other, but first, let's see how
0:39:11 > 0:39:21they performed on the day in their interviews. The question tonight is,
0:39:21 > 0:39:21
0:39:21 > 0:39:26how much research should you do on It is really a dream opportunity,
0:39:26 > 0:39:29once the lifetime. You apply for hundreds of things you mostly don't
0:39:29 > 0:39:36hear back from them, it is demoralising. You think, what was
0:39:36 > 0:39:41the point? I think it will be quite fun to drive around in a van, be
0:39:41 > 0:39:44able to park it outside my house and am on my parents! For the
0:39:44 > 0:39:48apprenticeship role, the main thing is people can go into our
0:39:48 > 0:39:53customers's homes. You said you might go into the armed forces,
0:39:54 > 0:40:00that is quite different career. can use your hands and your head at
0:40:00 > 0:40:10the same time. Tell me would you know about our company. You started
0:40:10 > 0:40:10
0:40:10 > 0:40:15back in 1984. Awkward and cable. Where I live, we could actually get
0:40:15 > 0:40:25Bergin, so my knowledge is quite limited. -- we cannot actually get
0:40:25 > 0:40:25
0:40:25 > 0:40:31a Bergin. Why do you think it is important for Virgin Media to be
0:40:31 > 0:40:41innovative? Can you explain that? I always noticed they used big words
0:40:41 > 0:40:45when they could have said it quite simple. You have just released the
0:40:45 > 0:40:51megabits, it clear just rolling out infinity, which I think is up to 40
0:40:51 > 0:40:58megabits. You almost no more than I do about it! Do you know anything
0:40:58 > 0:41:04about our latest product, that we have just launched a? I can't say I
0:41:04 > 0:41:12do. A couple of questions baby threw me off a bit, but I think I
0:41:12 > 0:41:16thought of some good answers. I'm a big fan of spotted five.
0:41:16 > 0:41:26waiting is the worst bit. Keep my fingers crossed, and hopefully,
0:41:26 > 0:41:26
0:41:26 > 0:41:33wait for the phone call. Here are some of those guys you saw there.
0:41:33 > 0:41:38Andrew, Philip and Tyrone. You guys interviewed for Scottish Power, we
0:41:38 > 0:41:43will have a chat with you in a moment. First of all, Philip,
0:41:43 > 0:41:46you're like a speaking company brochure! I think doing the
0:41:46 > 0:41:53research on a potential employer is one of the important things you
0:41:53 > 0:42:03need to do before an interview. that a dig at Andrew? I had done a
0:42:03 > 0:42:09fair bet, they just edited it out! Shocking! We have Tyrone over there.
0:42:09 > 0:42:13We are going to find out who got the job. Did you enjoy the process?
0:42:13 > 0:42:18It was definitely a worthwhile price has, I was quite nervous, but
0:42:18 > 0:42:28it is important to do a lot of research. You are gaining up on him
0:42:28 > 0:42:29
0:42:29 > 0:42:33now! Unnoticed they missed out NTL. I did say, that was edited out!
0:42:33 > 0:42:43Anyone here been out of work for a while? I have been out of work for
0:42:43 > 0:42:49about three years. I have been searching, and the situation where
0:42:49 > 0:42:53I was a top candidate for the job, they suddenly changed the
0:42:53 > 0:43:03conditions, so did the doctor so this job would need an awful lot to
0:43:03 > 0:43:07
0:43:07 > 0:43:11Remind us of the jobs that you are offering, Keith? One job in the
0:43:11 > 0:43:15renewable control centre, one at Shoreham Power Station and two jobs
0:43:15 > 0:43:17in the distribution control centre. Are these all three month
0:43:17 > 0:43:22contracts? All fantastic opportunities for these guys to
0:43:22 > 0:43:26prove to us what they can do. us who has got them? OK, we are
0:43:26 > 0:43:29pleased to announce that Alastair's going to join us in our renewables
0:43:29 > 0:43:33centre. Christopher will join us at Shoreham power station and Darren
0:43:33 > 0:43:43and Jacob will join us at the distribution control centre. Stand
0:43:43 > 0:43:45
0:43:45 > 0:43:49up, guys, stand up. So you've found out about the jobs
0:43:49 > 0:43:52through the website, but, it's not a game show, you know, you knew you
0:43:52 > 0:43:56got the jobs before you got here tonight. Alastair, what does it
0:43:56 > 0:44:00mean to you, that opportunity? a fantastic opportunity. Renewable
0:44:00 > 0:44:05energy in Scotland's a big industry and it's only going to get bigger,
0:44:05 > 0:44:09so to be with a company of Scottish Power's calibre is fantastic.
0:44:09 > 0:44:13Phillip? Chris, but looking forward to it. Good for you. Good job that
0:44:13 > 0:44:17wasn't a job interview. Nice one. Thank you, guys, have a seat.
0:44:17 > 0:44:20That's probably the last time you will probably ever see your Chief
0:44:20 > 0:44:23Executive in person! Helen, tell us about the jobs that
0:44:23 > 0:44:29you are offering? We are really pleased that we've got three
0:44:29 > 0:44:34successful candidates with us, we'd like to offer Andrew our one-year
0:44:34 > 0:44:37apprentice, Phillip is going to join us as a network apprentice, he
0:44:37 > 0:44:43has a passion for our network and industry, so well done, and Tyrone,
0:44:43 > 0:44:53you are going to be joining us in a retail store. Well done, guys,
0:44:53 > 0:44:54
0:44:54 > 0:44:59congrachlaitions. Tyrone, well done, congratulations?
0:44:59 > 0:45:05I was shocked when I heard the news. Were you? Almost in tears. I was on
0:45:05 > 0:45:09the phone with my mum, she was literally dancing, up and down
0:45:09 > 0:45:12jumping. Thank you very much. All the best, guys. Over to Tina, you
0:45:12 > 0:45:16have been contacting us and what have people been saying?
0:45:16 > 0:45:20You have been getting in touch with the online companies in your droves.
0:45:20 > 0:45:24Let's see who has been talking online. Rachel is asking some
0:45:24 > 0:45:28questions, I have an interview for a high street retailer and don't
0:45:28 > 0:45:31know what to expect. She wants advice. Thistle have been in touch
0:45:31 > 0:45:35with Rachel. Make sure you know a bit about them and think about how
0:45:35 > 0:45:39you might answer key questions around service and handling
0:45:39 > 0:45:43customers as the service experience is critical.
0:45:43 > 0:45:48Pret have responded to Rachel saying make sure you read through
0:45:48 > 0:45:52the website, learn about the company and what they value. What
0:45:52 > 0:45:55are your strengths and weaknesses and make sure you think about how
0:45:55 > 0:45:59you could make weaknesses constructive. We are live and we
0:45:59 > 0:46:09still want your stories and opinions. Get in touch by e-mailing
0:46:09 > 0:46:09
0:46:09 > 0:46:15us at upforhire. If you go to the welcome back site,
0:46:15 > 0:46:19you will find a nifty online test create bid the BBC which is
0:46:19 > 0:46:25designed to help you become a more successful job hunter. The Fab Four
0:46:25 > 0:46:30have completed it, as have I, and apparently, I need to work on my
0:46:30 > 0:46:34resilience or bounce backability from negative experiences. Richard!
0:46:34 > 0:46:37Does that actually mean anything? don't know. I think it means I need
0:46:37 > 0:46:41to look on the bright side a bit more. Thank you. Get in touch and
0:46:41 > 0:46:44try and come and see us in the studio tomorrow night as well
0:46:44 > 0:46:49potentially. A final look at the four recruits experiencing their
0:46:49 > 0:46:55career on fast forward. It's the moment of truth. It's presentation
0:46:55 > 0:46:59time. Good afternoon. OK. Who had the
0:46:59 > 0:47:08imagination and resourcefulness to deliver a stunning wow factor?
0:47:08 > 0:47:11Are you all ready then? Yes. Yes. All prepped. Kirsty, I would like
0:47:11 > 0:47:21you to go first. Thank you very much for having us back, James. For
0:47:21 > 0:47:26the first one, they offered between 10-15%. What did you agree? I have
0:47:26 > 0:47:31to say, the negotiation, a solid negotiation wasn't my strongest
0:47:31 > 0:47:38area, we agreed upon between 10- 15... So really you didn't actually
0:47:38 > 0:47:42get to a figure? I tried incredibly hard and so this was kind of what I
0:47:42 > 0:47:49felt that I could come out with. If it's not OK with you, then I
0:47:49 > 0:47:54apologise. OK. Well, with respect, that wasn't
0:47:54 > 0:47:59actually the brief. So another part of the package I agreed with them
0:47:59 > 0:48:02was the opportunity to plant an olive tree. They're of the region.
0:48:02 > 0:48:07OK. Thank you very much. Thank you.
0:48:08 > 0:48:13I was disappointed that Kirsty didn't shake on a deal and get a
0:48:13 > 0:48:16concrete figure. I need to go back to the venue now and redo it.
0:48:16 > 0:48:21ultimate ambition is to be Prime Minister and this particular task
0:48:21 > 0:48:26has brought home the fact that sometimes I have crippling
0:48:26 > 0:48:31inabilities to make decisions and that's obviously not something that
0:48:31 > 0:48:36somebody who's leading the entire country can possibly have.
0:48:36 > 0:48:41This has the total palace feel and because it's taken care of by a
0:48:41 > 0:48:44family, there's this love, amazing magic feeling in there. She doesn't
0:48:44 > 0:48:49give commission, so I decided to ask her some more questions and she
0:48:49 > 0:48:53said if we do have a second and a third, she'll go up to ten. That's
0:48:53 > 0:48:57worth a commission then, isn't it? I thought that was quite nice.
0:48:57 > 0:49:07think it was good that you adapted how you spoke and acted to the
0:49:07 > 0:49:07
0:49:07 > 0:49:11situation. What was your wow factor? I had an idea of this. I
0:49:11 > 0:49:20walked past the window, saw it and thought, I want that. I saw this,
0:49:20 > 0:49:23which is a boat. It's the Veronica. It was 2,000 euros, 1,200 for half
0:49:23 > 0:49:28a day. That's a good price, but it seems like you did well to see a
0:49:28 > 0:49:32boat in a shop window and find it. That's the sort of girl I am.
0:49:32 > 0:49:37the space of a few hours, so that's to your credit, definitely. Thank
0:49:37 > 0:49:40you, that is my presentation. done. Very good, Sacha. Can't quite
0:49:40 > 0:49:45believe what Sacha did for her wow factor, she found the boat, got it
0:49:45 > 0:49:49for an amazing price, great thinking on her feet and
0:49:49 > 0:49:52persistence and it really paid off for her. It's brilliant. I've
0:49:52 > 0:49:56realised that there are set skills that you do in every single job,
0:49:56 > 0:49:59negotiating, presenting, you know, listening and being respectful to
0:49:59 > 0:50:06others, helping. There's all these sort of things and I'm pretty damn
0:50:06 > 0:50:10good at all of them. It was 10% commission, which is
0:50:10 > 0:50:14like �4,10. What did you start off at? I walked in and I was like how
0:50:14 > 0:50:18much and she was like 10%, that's company policy. So you didn't get
0:50:18 > 0:50:21her up? Literally, I was like what can I offer it to you... Did you
0:50:21 > 0:50:26ask who has the authority to make a decision about getting more
0:50:26 > 0:50:32commission? No. What was your wow factor? My wow
0:50:32 > 0:50:36factor was a vineyard. Did you actually see it? I'm afraid I had
0:50:36 > 0:50:40to do it over the phone... So you don't know what it looks like, so I
0:50:40 > 0:50:43can't really judge what you've done without seeing it, unfortunately.
0:50:43 > 0:50:47Once again, I've gone through the process of looking at myself a bit
0:50:47 > 0:50:50more. I need to look at myself and think, I haven't done it before,
0:50:50 > 0:50:54not got no experience, that's fine you have now, so when you go into
0:50:54 > 0:51:00that realm again, you know what to do and you know what mistakes you
0:51:00 > 0:51:03do and work towards not making those mistakes.
0:51:03 > 0:51:07This place was just spectacular, private helicopter pads. He
0:51:07 > 0:51:13originally said 10% and I said can I go to 15 and I said, if you
0:51:13 > 0:51:15promise a minimum of three days, we'll go to 15% and I said fine, OK.
0:51:15 > 0:51:20The commission on the accommodation I think you've done very, very well
0:51:20 > 0:51:24on. I liked the fact that they had a helicopter pad so I thought I
0:51:24 > 0:51:31would use that and you also found out there is a monastery with monks
0:51:31 > 0:51:33and they make their own wine and it was a brilliant island. With the
0:51:33 > 0:51:38helicopter, it's actually really easy to get a helicopter.
0:51:38 > 0:51:40person I was most impressed with was undoubtedly Chris. He abs
0:51:40 > 0:51:46newtly nailed it with the negotiation, got 50% more
0:51:46 > 0:51:52commission on the rooms -- absolutely nailed it. I knew you
0:51:52 > 0:51:57were going to do it again, I knew it. I could kick you. You are a die
0:51:57 > 0:52:02manned diamond. We need to polish you up a bit. The wowest wow factor.
0:52:02 > 0:52:06On top of the world with that. I was never expecting people to say
0:52:06 > 0:52:12that I did that well because I'm the youngest and I haven't got any
0:52:12 > 0:52:16qualfick aces and stuff. I shows that I can do it -- qualifications.
0:52:16 > 0:52:22I want a job that I enjoy and show good results and can feel proud of
0:52:22 > 0:52:31saying, I have this job, and, like, you know, feel the confidence in it.
0:52:31 > 0:52:37APPLAUSE Here he is.
0:52:37 > 0:52:42Nice one, Chris. James, the wowest wow factor you've ever seen? It's
0:52:42 > 0:52:46up there, definitely. But it was impressive? Very. I mean, to go to
0:52:46 > 0:52:50a foreign country, to France, and even creatively think of that on
0:52:50 > 0:52:54the day and just think, uem going to go to an island, bang on the
0:52:54 > 0:52:58door of a monk, hopefully he'll speak to me and make me some wine
0:52:58 > 0:53:01is something which, I would struggle to think of that, it was
0:53:01 > 0:53:04brilliant. Also watching the journey that you have been on
0:53:04 > 0:53:07during the course of the week on the films has been really
0:53:07 > 0:53:13interesting. The first day you couldn't make candy floss and got
0:53:13 > 0:53:16demoting to pot washer. Not much of a dive though, is it? More of a
0:53:16 > 0:53:19sideways move. Shifted over somewhere.
0:53:19 > 0:53:23But you know, you've grown in confidence I think. Do you feel
0:53:24 > 0:53:27that as you have trieded out these different jobs? Yes, I think I'm a
0:53:27 > 0:53:30confidence person anyway, I have no problems doing anything, but doing
0:53:30 > 0:53:33this, it does give you the confidence to do anything in the
0:53:33 > 0:53:36work place. Something important to you, you feel like, because it's
0:53:36 > 0:53:40important to me I'm going to be safe, but doing something like this,
0:53:40 > 0:53:43you give over the confidence. you give hum a job? I would
0:53:43 > 0:53:46seriously consider it, yes, if it was just a job whereby you were
0:53:46 > 0:53:51flying over Europe negotiating venues then actually probably yes,
0:53:51 > 0:53:54however, I don't have a job that just does that unfortunately. You
0:53:54 > 0:54:01would have to deal with clients and everything else and you would
0:54:01 > 0:54:05probably need a bit more training. To be honest, you saw what I did
0:54:05 > 0:54:09and you saw what Chris did and I thought he was amazing and this guy
0:54:09 > 0:54:16is great and I think if you don't give him a job, someone else is
0:54:16 > 0:54:20going to snap him up and you will miss out. Sacha, Chris picked Sacha.
0:54:20 > 0:54:24You grew in confidence there didn't you. What was the phrase you used
0:54:24 > 0:54:29toward the end there? I got a little bit confident there. But it
0:54:29 > 0:54:34was amazing and, as I said before, when I see things, I usually go get
0:54:34 > 0:54:40it. To find that boat from a picture that size, on the whole of
0:54:40 > 0:54:41Lake Garda, it's fantastic. We have to move on. More from our four
0:54:41 > 0:54:45tomorrow night, ladies and gentlemen.
0:54:45 > 0:54:48And we'll have a look at how they cope with the big one, the
0:54:48 > 0:54:54pressures of hedging a major company.
0:54:54 > 0:54:58For the next three days, you are going to be me. This is the most
0:54:58 > 0:55:03important thing. Your first thing today is interviewing. She's on her
0:55:03 > 0:55:08own and she's got to do it. Really nervous. No, Lauren. You could see
0:55:08 > 0:55:11this come to life across 360 restaurants. As you know, it's the
0:55:11 > 0:55:16biggest colour. �500,000 worth of business. Probably thinking the
0:55:16 > 0:55:22stuff I'm presenting is crap. do you think that would be crap?
0:55:22 > 0:55:25I'm going to make a complete idiot of myself. I don't want to be an MD,
0:55:25 > 0:55:29I will be an MD. If you want to be here tomorrow,
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0:55:33 > 0:55:38visit our Facebook page for more details. The address is on the
0:55:38 > 0:55:41screen. That is all we've got time for tonight. Back at the usual time
0:55:41 > 0:55:44of 9 o'clock tomorrow. I'll be asking if you can't find a job,
0:55:44 > 0:55:49shouldn't you just create your own and we'll be reading and reacting
0:55:49 > 0:55:53to all of your comments. Kirsty, Ben, Sacha and Chris will step into
0:55:53 > 0:55:59the shoes of four Chief Executives, so find out how it feels to be the
0:55:59 > 0:56:05big boss and we'll be joined by Sarah Cox and former dragon James