Lionel Richie

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0:00:07 > 0:00:10With a successful music career spanning over four decades,

0:00:10 > 0:00:14Oscar and Grammy-winning singer and songwriter Lionel Richie

0:00:14 > 0:00:17has sold over 100 million albums worldwide.

0:00:17 > 0:00:20# Easy like Sunday morning. #

0:00:25 > 0:00:28Lionel has three children and lives in Los Angeles.

0:00:28 > 0:00:31But was born in Tuskegee, Alabama.

0:00:31 > 0:00:34He was raised on the campus of the Tuskegee Institute,

0:00:34 > 0:00:37a highly respected historically black university

0:00:37 > 0:00:40where both his mother and his grandmother were teachers.

0:00:40 > 0:00:44The family home consisted of my grandmother,

0:00:44 > 0:00:48my mom, my father, my sister.

0:00:48 > 0:00:51I grew up knowing

0:00:51 > 0:00:54that everything was available and possible.

0:00:54 > 0:00:57Imagine during the Civil Rights movement,

0:00:57 > 0:00:59every black guy I knew had access to a PhD

0:00:59 > 0:01:02or they were a lawyer.

0:01:02 > 0:01:05It was not like growing up in "the rural South."

0:01:05 > 0:01:09And so we called Tuskegee the bubble.

0:01:10 > 0:01:11I didn't realise it,

0:01:11 > 0:01:14but I was standing on the shoulders of giants.

0:01:14 > 0:01:17People who struggled and overcame great obstacles

0:01:17 > 0:01:21to create the secure and nurturing environment

0:01:21 > 0:01:23in which I was raised.

0:01:23 > 0:01:26But I have no idea who the giants in my family are.

0:01:26 > 0:01:31Who paved the way for my parents and ultimately for me?

0:01:31 > 0:01:35So my goal right now in this part of my life,

0:01:35 > 0:01:37is to find out the names

0:01:37 > 0:01:40and the faces and the places of those giants,

0:01:40 > 0:01:45so I can pass this information on to my kids,

0:01:45 > 0:01:48so they can rise to the occasion.

0:02:06 > 0:02:09Was I sheltered when I was growing up? Absolutely.

0:02:11 > 0:02:14Our parents protected us from everything.

0:02:17 > 0:02:22They didn't tell us that there was segregation, didn't tell us.

0:02:22 > 0:02:26If the Klan was coming to protest through the streets of Tuskegee,

0:02:26 > 0:02:29our parents put us to bed early.

0:02:33 > 0:02:36In 1968, Lionel formed the band the Commodores

0:02:36 > 0:02:40with fellow students from Tuskegee University.

0:02:42 > 0:02:45The Commodores gave me that opportunity to go out

0:02:45 > 0:02:50and seek the real world because... the blinders were off.

0:02:50 > 0:02:54And I was able to understand my mother and father

0:02:54 > 0:02:58and the community a lot better, and I could appreciate them a lot more.

0:02:58 > 0:03:01- Hey, Dad.- I'm getting ready to leave town.- Where you going?

0:03:01 > 0:03:05I think where I'm going to start out is Tuskegee with Auntie Deborah.

0:03:05 > 0:03:08And we're going to find some interesting stuff on our ancestry.

0:03:08 > 0:03:10- All right.- Go, Daddy.

0:03:10 > 0:03:12OK, guys. Be good.

0:03:12 > 0:03:13- All right, be good.- Bye, Dad.

0:03:13 > 0:03:16- Bye-bye, you two.- Bye.

0:03:16 > 0:03:20Lionel's first stop is Tuskegee, Alabama.

0:03:20 > 0:03:22He's meeting his younger sister Deborah

0:03:22 > 0:03:25at their grandmother's house where they grew up.

0:03:25 > 0:03:28Deb and I spent much of our youth living with Grandma Foster.

0:03:28 > 0:03:32And while we heard many stories about her mother Velenderver,

0:03:32 > 0:03:36we have absolutely no idea who our grandmother's father was.

0:03:36 > 0:03:40She never talked about him. Deborah is the keeper of the family photos

0:03:40 > 0:03:43'and has been doing some research for me. So I'm curious

0:03:43 > 0:03:45'to see what she's been able to dig up.'

0:03:45 > 0:03:48Yeah, this should be quite interesting.

0:03:48 > 0:03:51- I got a lot to show you. - Uh-oh. Don't scare me now.

0:03:51 > 0:03:54Show me what you got.

0:03:54 > 0:03:56- Well, I've got a few photos for you there.- Wow.

0:03:56 > 0:03:59You recognise that face?

0:03:59 > 0:04:01That's Grandma Adelaide Foster, right?

0:04:01 > 0:04:03Grandma Foster.

0:04:03 > 0:04:05And there is Adelaide over there.

0:04:05 > 0:04:09- At age 100.- At age 100.

0:04:09 > 0:04:13And she is probably here about, what, seven?

0:04:13 > 0:04:15You know, the thing I remember most

0:04:15 > 0:04:17growing up with her was...

0:04:17 > 0:04:19If she didn't want to talk about it...

0:04:19 > 0:04:21- ..you don't talk about it. - You don't talk about it.

0:04:21 > 0:04:24The original, "Don't ask, don't tell"

0:04:24 > 0:04:27is Grandma Foster.

0:04:28 > 0:04:34OK. This is Grandma Foster's social security document.

0:04:34 > 0:04:37- Whoa.- I ordered it.

0:04:37 > 0:04:39I haven't seen it yet,

0:04:39 > 0:04:41so we're looking at it for the first time.

0:04:41 > 0:04:43- Oh, OK.- So...

0:04:44 > 0:04:46Oh, my gosh. Look at that.

0:04:47 > 0:04:49"Adelaide M...

0:04:49 > 0:04:52- "Brown!- Brown!"

0:04:52 > 0:04:55- Oh, my gosh. - Wait, let's go down. Wait, wait.

0:04:55 > 0:04:57"Father's name.

0:04:57 > 0:04:59- "Louis Brown.- Louis Brown."

0:04:59 > 0:05:03So this is my great-grandfather.

0:05:03 > 0:05:04Phew!

0:05:04 > 0:05:07- That's certainly a revelation. - So what do you think?

0:05:07 > 0:05:09That's powerful right here. I love that.

0:05:09 > 0:05:11Lionel has discovered the name

0:05:11 > 0:05:15of his grandmother Adelaide Foster's father -

0:05:15 > 0:05:18his own great-grandfather - Louis Brown.

0:05:18 > 0:05:20But why did she never talk about him?

0:05:20 > 0:05:25So for Grandma to fill out that card, she KNEW it was Brown.

0:05:25 > 0:05:29- Oh, yeah.- And she just didn't tell anybody.- No, no, of course not.

0:05:29 > 0:05:31Don't ask, don't tell.

0:05:31 > 0:05:34But here's the kick.

0:05:34 > 0:05:37She was born in Nashville, Tennessee.

0:05:37 > 0:05:39Nashville, wow.

0:05:39 > 0:05:41Well, my dear, I'm going to take this with me.

0:05:41 > 0:05:43Thank you very much.

0:05:43 > 0:05:47Now that he knows the name of his grandmother's father,

0:05:47 > 0:05:50Lionel is heading to her birthplace, Nashville.

0:05:50 > 0:05:54He's searching for clues regarding the man she never spoke about.

0:05:57 > 0:06:00He's arranged to meet genealogist Mark Lowe

0:06:00 > 0:06:02at the Nashville Public Library.

0:06:02 > 0:06:07All right. We have a social security application here.

0:06:07 > 0:06:10My grandmother was born here in Nashville in 1893.

0:06:10 > 0:06:14I know my great-grandmother, Velenderver.

0:06:14 > 0:06:18But now, "father's name, Louis Brown."

0:06:18 > 0:06:21How do we find more about him?

0:06:21 > 0:06:23Well, with that information,

0:06:23 > 0:06:25this is the marriage book for this time period.

0:06:25 > 0:06:27- Gosh! - Why don't we look for a marriage,

0:06:27 > 0:06:31maybe two to three years before your grandmother was born?

0:06:31 > 0:06:34Between Velenderver Towson and Louis Brown.

0:06:34 > 0:06:361891.

0:06:36 > 0:06:39Under Brown, right?

0:06:41 > 0:06:45We have here, George Brown. Nope.

0:06:45 > 0:06:46Not there in 1891.

0:06:46 > 0:06:49- So let's back up to 1890. - Let's just back it up, 1890.

0:06:49 > 0:06:50All right, let's move back.

0:06:50 > 0:06:53And here we are, Thomas Brown.

0:06:53 > 0:06:57JL, Velenderver Towson. Here we are.

0:06:57 > 0:06:59Wow.

0:06:59 > 0:07:00Velenderver, right here.

0:07:00 > 0:07:03This is the date the marriage was issued.

0:07:03 > 0:07:06April 6th, 1890. Is that it?

0:07:06 > 0:07:08- Yes.- Unbelievable.

0:07:08 > 0:07:11JL.

0:07:11 > 0:07:13So what was J?

0:07:13 > 0:07:15Well, I have another document to show you.

0:07:15 > 0:07:17What is this?

0:07:17 > 0:07:19This is what's called a complaint.

0:07:19 > 0:07:23Uh, "Velenderver Brown versus John Louis Brown."

0:07:23 > 0:07:24Right.

0:07:24 > 0:07:27All right. Now we got that name down.

0:07:27 > 0:07:29This is 1897.

0:07:29 > 0:07:31- Correct.- Very good.

0:07:31 > 0:07:34- They've been married seven years. - Seven years.

0:07:34 > 0:07:40And he's a resident of Chattanooga, Hamilton County, Tennessee.

0:07:40 > 0:07:42Chattanooga, Tennessee.

0:07:42 > 0:07:44Which means he's not currently living

0:07:44 > 0:07:46- in Nashville... - ..In Nashville.

0:07:46 > 0:07:48..where Velenderver is still living.

0:07:48 > 0:07:50So this is basically a divorce.

0:07:50 > 0:07:53- Yes.- Wow.

0:07:53 > 0:07:59So perhaps the complaint will tell us more about the circumstances.

0:07:59 > 0:08:04They were married in Nashville, Tennessee. She was about...

0:08:04 > 0:08:0915 years old at the time of her marriage...

0:08:10 > 0:08:14..and the defendant was about 50?!

0:08:15 > 0:08:18- Wow! 50 and 15.- Right.

0:08:18 > 0:08:21How could they do that in the first place? Was that legal?

0:08:21 > 0:08:24It was at the time. The common law was in effect

0:08:24 > 0:08:25and she could have been as young as 12.

0:08:25 > 0:08:28That's the law at the time? Older than 12?

0:08:28 > 0:08:32It didn't change till 1899, about ten years after that.

0:08:32 > 0:08:38But that was not uncommon for older men to marry younger women.

0:08:38 > 0:08:41I have a 12-year-old daughter. This would be shotgun-in-hand today!

0:08:41 > 0:08:43Are you kidding me?

0:08:43 > 0:08:46And evidently, these are the things that she says

0:08:46 > 0:08:48give her grounds for divorce.

0:08:48 > 0:08:50Yes, she said... I'll let you read this.

0:08:50 > 0:08:53"Because of the difference in their ages,

0:08:53 > 0:08:57"she could not comply with his way of thinking.

0:08:57 > 0:08:59"Until it reached a point,

0:08:59 > 0:09:01"complainant could no longer stand it.

0:09:01 > 0:09:06"Therefore, complainant prays that the matrimony be dissolved."

0:09:08 > 0:09:12So there's one more document related to this divorce.

0:09:12 > 0:09:13OK.

0:09:13 > 0:09:14This one is called the final decree.

0:09:14 > 0:09:17- And this is from the judge? - Correct.

0:09:17 > 0:09:21All I can see here is the date, July 26th, 1897.

0:09:21 > 0:09:22And I can't...

0:09:22 > 0:09:26OK, well basically, the judge found that she was abandoned

0:09:26 > 0:09:29for a period of more than two years.

0:09:29 > 0:09:31And the divorce is granted.

0:09:31 > 0:09:33Wow.

0:09:33 > 0:09:36And remember that based on those ages, if he's 57,

0:09:36 > 0:09:40being born in 1840, she would have been born in 1875.

0:09:40 > 0:09:42And they're clearly from two worlds.

0:09:42 > 0:09:43Absolutely.

0:09:43 > 0:09:46We know Velenderver was born free after emancipation

0:09:46 > 0:09:50but there's the possibility that John Louis could have been born

0:09:50 > 0:09:52as a slave, or free, we don't know yet.

0:09:52 > 0:09:54If he WAS a slave when he was born,

0:09:54 > 0:09:57there'd have be a completely different mindset.

0:09:57 > 0:10:00So probably there's some other records to get to that point,

0:10:00 > 0:10:03to learn more about who John Louis Brown was.

0:10:03 > 0:10:06Oh, I'd love that. Thank you, Mark.

0:10:06 > 0:10:08While the age difference might have had something to do

0:10:08 > 0:10:10with my great-grandparents' divorce,

0:10:10 > 0:10:13there's got to be more to this story.

0:10:15 > 0:10:19Lionel is heading to the Metro Archives in Nashville,

0:10:19 > 0:10:22searching for any information about his mysterious grandfather,

0:10:22 > 0:10:25John Louis Brown.

0:10:25 > 0:10:29I know that my great-grandfather left his wife and child

0:10:29 > 0:10:33but now I want to find out why he would do such a thing.

0:10:33 > 0:10:36Lionel is meeting historian Don Doyle.

0:10:36 > 0:10:39I'm trying to find my great-grandfather.

0:10:39 > 0:10:42OK, this is a city directory from 1885.

0:10:42 > 0:10:45But let's see if we can't find...

0:10:45 > 0:10:47These pages are as soft as butter.

0:10:47 > 0:10:49Brown...

0:10:52 > 0:10:55Brown...

0:10:55 > 0:10:56J Louis.

0:10:56 > 0:11:00"SGA Knights of Wise Men."

0:11:00 > 0:11:02What is that?

0:11:02 > 0:11:05It sounds to me like some kind of a fraternal order,

0:11:05 > 0:11:07some kind of an organisation.

0:11:07 > 0:11:12It does, like the Masons, or it would be a... It could be a fraternity.

0:11:14 > 0:11:18Now you know what you've done. You've probably stoked my curiosity.

0:11:18 > 0:11:19OK?

0:11:19 > 0:11:24Because if we can go back this far, we've got to go back some more.

0:11:24 > 0:11:28We've got one more city directory. This is from 1880.

0:11:28 > 0:11:291880, 1880.

0:11:29 > 0:11:33And so let's catch him just five years back a little bit earlier.

0:11:33 > 0:11:35Let's see what we see. Now this one is...

0:11:35 > 0:11:37I'll let you touch the book.

0:11:37 > 0:11:39..not only falling apart, it is apart.

0:11:39 > 0:11:42So let me see if I can...

0:11:42 > 0:11:44Holy cow! It is apart.

0:11:45 > 0:11:47John...

0:11:47 > 0:11:48Now here...

0:11:48 > 0:11:50John L Brown.

0:11:50 > 0:11:54Editor of Knights Of Wise Men.

0:11:54 > 0:11:58So now, whatever "SGA" meant, we now know that he is an editor

0:11:58 > 0:12:01of something called the Knights Of Wise Men.

0:12:01 > 0:12:04This tells you just by the names here, again,

0:12:04 > 0:12:07that he is involved... he must be literate.

0:12:07 > 0:12:09- I was going to say. - He's an editor.

0:12:09 > 0:12:14- I was going to say, he's the editor, this is a schooled guy.- Yes.

0:12:14 > 0:12:17The Knights Of Wise Men. We got to figure out what that's all about.

0:12:17 > 0:12:19I think you need someone who's an expert

0:12:19 > 0:12:21more on fraternal organisations,

0:12:21 > 0:12:26and who can help you on this more esoteric branch of history.

0:12:26 > 0:12:29Good. All right. I'm on the hunt.

0:12:29 > 0:12:33'It's so thrilling to learn that my great-grandfather

0:12:33 > 0:12:37'was involved in such a mysterious organisation.'

0:12:37 > 0:12:42Just who are the Knights Of Wise Men? And what on earth is an SGA?

0:12:44 > 0:12:48To try to find out who the Knights Of Wise Men were and what they did,

0:12:48 > 0:12:51Lionel is meeting an expert on African-American

0:12:51 > 0:12:55fraternal organisations.

0:12:56 > 0:13:00I'm in search of this SGA Knights Of The Wise Men.

0:13:00 > 0:13:03Well, I think I can help you with that.

0:13:03 > 0:13:07The Knights Of The Wise Men. This was a fraternal order,

0:13:07 > 0:13:10that also had a benefit for its members.

0:13:10 > 0:13:13The organisation helped build bonds of community

0:13:13 > 0:13:15between African-American men.

0:13:15 > 0:13:20It was an institution that provided financial benefits

0:13:20 > 0:13:25to all of its members for sickness, as well as in death.

0:13:25 > 0:13:30So this is basically an insurance policy or an insurance company, basically.

0:13:30 > 0:13:32To some degree.

0:13:32 > 0:13:35It's the precursor of what we think of as modern insurance companies.

0:13:35 > 0:13:37You are kidding me.

0:13:37 > 0:13:38Remember, at this time,

0:13:38 > 0:13:41white organisations were completely separate

0:13:41 > 0:13:44- and did not admit African-Americans. - Oh, OK.

0:13:44 > 0:13:50The Knights Of Wise Men was founded in 1879 to address the needs

0:13:50 > 0:13:52of the black community.

0:13:52 > 0:13:55For a brief period after the Civil War,

0:13:55 > 0:13:58African-Americans participated in southern government

0:13:58 > 0:14:02and implemented social reform, but they were soon pushed out

0:14:02 > 0:14:07by a white community that reversed the progress toward racial equality.

0:14:08 > 0:14:12Facing the future with few resources and virtually no public help,

0:14:12 > 0:14:15visionary leaders like JL Brown took action

0:14:15 > 0:14:19and created institutions to assist African-Americans.

0:14:21 > 0:14:25The Knights Of Wise Men became one of several national African-American

0:14:25 > 0:14:27fraternal orders in the 19th century.

0:14:27 > 0:14:32And by 1882, the organisation had grown to 278 lodges.

0:14:32 > 0:14:37These were the prototypes of the organisations

0:14:37 > 0:14:40that helped propel the modern Civil Rights Movement.

0:14:40 > 0:14:42Wow!

0:14:42 > 0:14:44So what does SGA mean?

0:14:44 > 0:14:47SGA stands for Supreme Grand Archon.

0:14:47 > 0:14:52He wasn't just a member of the organisation, he was the leader,

0:14:52 > 0:14:56the national leader of the organisation.

0:14:56 > 0:15:03And he had the presence of mind to think like this, on this level.

0:15:03 > 0:15:06- Not just locally but nationally. - Nationally.

0:15:06 > 0:15:10That was not what I was expecting.

0:15:11 > 0:15:16If you look at this, it will give you some hint

0:15:16 > 0:15:18of just how important he was.

0:15:18 > 0:15:24"Knights Of The Wise Men. Rules, laws and regulations.

0:15:24 > 0:15:27"JL Brown, supreme archon."

0:15:27 > 0:15:30He was not only the leader,

0:15:30 > 0:15:34but he wrote the rules, laws and regulations of the order.

0:15:34 > 0:15:36What?

0:15:36 > 0:15:38JL Brown was at the forefront

0:15:38 > 0:15:42in building a significant institution to meet the needs

0:15:42 > 0:15:46- of African-Americans across the nation.- Unbelievable.

0:15:46 > 0:15:49This is unbelievable. So you have...

0:15:49 > 0:15:52We have more about the Knights Of Wise Men.

0:15:52 > 0:15:55You're telling me from this you have more?!

0:15:55 > 0:15:58This is coming from the Daily Times in Chattanooga, Tennessee,

0:15:58 > 0:16:00from 1891.

0:16:00 > 0:16:02What this article informs us of

0:16:02 > 0:16:05is what's happened to the Knights Of Wise Men.

0:16:05 > 0:16:07Ah, very good.

0:16:07 > 0:16:13It says here, "Chattanooga has the strongest lodge of wise men.

0:16:13 > 0:16:17"Outside of this city the organisation has perceptibly weakened

0:16:17 > 0:16:21"since the smallpox epidemic of 1885,

0:16:21 > 0:16:24"when the backbone of the Wise Men

0:16:24 > 0:16:29"was broken by the excessive drain upon the treasury."

0:16:29 > 0:16:32What happened was, the Knights Of Wise Men

0:16:32 > 0:16:34had to pay out of their treasury these death benefits.

0:16:34 > 0:16:36Oh, that's right. Exactly.

0:16:36 > 0:16:41So as those death benefits mounted, the treasury was depleted.

0:16:41 > 0:16:44It says, "The Knights Of The Wise Men

0:16:44 > 0:16:46"is in a quandary concerning the whereabouts

0:16:46 > 0:16:52"of their supreme secretary of treasure, SR Walker of Nashville.

0:16:52 > 0:16:56"Walker, as supreme treasurer of the Wise Men of the United States,

0:16:56 > 0:17:00"handled considerable money, but was not required

0:17:00 > 0:17:04"to give bond or secure funds placed in his hands."

0:17:04 > 0:17:07So it means now, it is clear...

0:17:07 > 0:17:10- The treasurer... - ..ran off with the money.

0:17:10 > 0:17:11That's right.

0:17:11 > 0:17:17So a little... Six years after the smallpox epidemic of 1885,

0:17:17 > 0:17:22we have SR Walker taking what's left in the treasury

0:17:22 > 0:17:24and leaving Nashville.

0:17:24 > 0:17:27Hm. That was devastating.

0:17:27 > 0:17:29My great-grandfather, was he involved in this?

0:17:29 > 0:17:32Interestingly enough, the account that we have,

0:17:32 > 0:17:35does not implicate your great-grandfather.

0:17:35 > 0:17:38Very good. So now what happened?

0:17:38 > 0:17:41We see that the Wise Men, although they're still mentioned

0:17:41 > 0:17:45in books as late as 1915,

0:17:45 > 0:17:48it's no longer a nationwide organisation.

0:17:48 > 0:17:52It's no longer this healthy, vital organisation.

0:17:52 > 0:17:55So now that explains...

0:17:55 > 0:18:00The marriage fell apart during this period.

0:18:00 > 0:18:04So it's understandable now, in my head,

0:18:04 > 0:18:07why the marriage fell apart.

0:18:07 > 0:18:10On top of the fact that the age difference,

0:18:10 > 0:18:13but also the business.

0:18:13 > 0:18:16The business that he had established was now falling apart.

0:18:16 > 0:18:19And he was trying to spend as much time as he could,

0:18:19 > 0:18:22probably trying to resurrect this or to clear it up.

0:18:22 > 0:18:27And so it makes sense to me, what his mindset was

0:18:27 > 0:18:30at that particular time.

0:18:30 > 0:18:32Thank you very much, you've been amazing.

0:18:32 > 0:18:35- Hey, I enjoyed it.- Appreciate it.

0:18:35 > 0:18:37My great-grandfather went from being,

0:18:37 > 0:18:40in my mind, maybe a scoundrel,

0:18:40 > 0:18:43all the way to being one of the pioneers

0:18:43 > 0:18:45of the Civil Rights Movement.

0:18:45 > 0:18:50His commitment to the community was just unbelievable

0:18:50 > 0:18:53and he wanted to see the community lifted up,

0:18:53 > 0:18:56and did all he could to do that.

0:18:57 > 0:19:00I'm extremely proud.

0:19:04 > 0:19:07Now Lionel is heading to Chattanooga, Tennessee.

0:19:09 > 0:19:14According to the 1900 census, JL Brown moved there

0:19:14 > 0:19:18after the demise of the Nashville branch of Knights Of Wise Men.

0:19:18 > 0:19:22I really want to find out what happened to my great-grandfather.

0:19:22 > 0:19:27Lionel is visiting the Chattanooga Public Library.

0:19:27 > 0:19:30He's meeting local historian LaFrederick Thirkill,

0:19:30 > 0:19:34looking for information that might continue to link JL Brown

0:19:34 > 0:19:37to the troubled organisation he founded, the Knights Of Wise Men.

0:19:37 > 0:19:39I'm hoping you can help me.

0:19:39 > 0:19:41Well, you came to the right place,

0:19:41 > 0:19:46and you'll be surprised that we were able to find him here.

0:19:46 > 0:19:50I've got him in the 1929 city directory in Chattanooga.

0:19:50 > 0:19:54Oh, come on. 1929?

0:19:54 > 0:19:57So born in 1840. That makes him pretty much around 90 years old.

0:19:57 > 0:19:58Yes.

0:19:58 > 0:20:00Boy, he lived a long time.

0:20:00 > 0:20:03That explains a lot about my grandmother.

0:20:03 > 0:20:07She lived to be 100, and, um, three.

0:20:07 > 0:20:08Wow, wow.

0:20:08 > 0:20:12So... I love this family gene.

0:20:12 > 0:20:15Ah, here we go.

0:20:15 > 0:20:18John L.

0:20:18 > 0:20:21He is now... Is that caretaker?

0:20:21 > 0:20:22Yes.

0:20:22 > 0:20:25"At the Pleasant Garden Cemetery."

0:20:25 > 0:20:26Yes.

0:20:26 > 0:20:30I think that probably the Knights Of Wise Men,

0:20:30 > 0:20:34as the organisation, or as the business, is no longer.

0:20:34 > 0:20:37That is somewhat unclear, but we do know

0:20:37 > 0:20:39that he worked for a long time.

0:20:39 > 0:20:41So I'm taking that he is now working to eat,

0:20:41 > 0:20:44working to live,

0:20:44 > 0:20:47basically working to maintain his life.

0:20:47 > 0:20:48Yes.

0:20:48 > 0:20:52Caretaker at 90?

0:20:52 > 0:20:53Pleasant Gardens wasn't a small cemetery.

0:20:53 > 0:20:58It's 22 to 23 acres big, if you could imagine...

0:20:58 > 0:21:00Oh, you're kidding me.

0:21:00 > 0:21:0320 some-odd acres is not a small cemetery at all.

0:21:03 > 0:21:07And, of course, to be able to move around on that much property.

0:21:07 > 0:21:10Wow.

0:21:10 > 0:21:12Any more information?

0:21:12 > 0:21:16- Just a second. - That's the right answer!

0:21:16 > 0:21:18That's what I'm talking about. Good.

0:21:20 > 0:21:24"Biography and Achievements of Colored Citizens in Chattanooga."

0:21:24 > 0:21:26Are you kidding me?

0:21:29 > 0:21:30Wow.

0:21:30 > 0:21:34There are some pretty impressive looking guys here.

0:21:34 > 0:21:36JW Williams.

0:21:36 > 0:21:38JL Brown!

0:21:41 > 0:21:43So that's what he looks like.

0:21:47 > 0:21:50I'm noticing, you know, his forehead, and my forehead,

0:21:50 > 0:21:52and even to the point of the line,

0:21:52 > 0:21:56which I don't like to point out the flaws in my face, but,

0:21:56 > 0:21:59he has the same eyes and the same forehead,

0:21:59 > 0:22:03it's just unbelievable, it's uncanny. Wow.

0:22:03 > 0:22:06I don't know whether this is a write-up about him,

0:22:06 > 0:22:07or some of his thoughts.

0:22:07 > 0:22:11"It's only by our good qualities,

0:22:11 > 0:22:15"rightly set forth, that we are to succeed in the future.

0:22:15 > 0:22:18"First by education, every boy and girl,

0:22:18 > 0:22:21"and teaching them from the cradle to the grave,

0:22:21 > 0:22:27"honesty, industry, economy of time and means

0:22:27 > 0:22:30"and the fullest enjoyment of all rights as citizens

0:22:30 > 0:22:34"and the destruction, death and burial of the accursed idea

0:22:34 > 0:22:41"that the negro is inferior, simply because he has been in time

0:22:41 > 0:22:45"deprived of life, liberty and property.

0:22:45 > 0:22:51"Let us all be wise men and women."

0:22:51 > 0:22:53When I read this, I...

0:22:53 > 0:22:55I'm thinking he wants to lift these people up.

0:22:55 > 0:22:59- He is not about, you know, "Don't remind me that I'm poor."- Right.

0:22:59 > 0:23:03- "Don't remind me that I'm not doing well."- Exactly. - Let's talk about the good,

0:23:03 > 0:23:07let's talk about going up... instead of down.

0:23:07 > 0:23:10Very good. So now what happened to him?

0:23:10 > 0:23:13I was able to find one more document.

0:23:18 > 0:23:20Wow.

0:23:20 > 0:23:22What is this?

0:23:23 > 0:23:27Ah. Place... This is the death certificate, right?

0:23:27 > 0:23:28Yes.

0:23:28 > 0:23:33Here we go. "Hamilton County, Chattanooga, Tennessee.

0:23:33 > 0:23:35"JL Brown."

0:23:35 > 0:23:39So now we actually know... do we know where he was buried?

0:23:39 > 0:23:42- Yes.- Pleasant Gardens?

0:23:42 > 0:23:44Pleasant Gardens.

0:23:44 > 0:23:46Pleasant Gardens.

0:23:46 > 0:23:49Oh, my God.

0:23:49 > 0:23:51The name here, Morgan Brown?

0:23:51 > 0:23:53Morgan Brown was his father?

0:23:53 > 0:23:55Morgan Brown is listed as his father.

0:23:55 > 0:23:58Whoa, here we go.

0:23:58 > 0:24:02"Morgan Brown and mother..."

0:24:02 > 0:24:05The mother's name is listed as "don't know."

0:24:05 > 0:24:09Don't you just love records like that?

0:24:09 > 0:24:11But we have Morgan Brown.

0:24:13 > 0:24:16Lionel has just found out that JL Brown's father,

0:24:16 > 0:24:19Lionel's great-great-grandfather, was Morgan Brown.

0:24:19 > 0:24:23But he still doesn't know the name of his great-great-grandmother.

0:24:23 > 0:24:26Pleasant Gardens is still in existence.

0:24:26 > 0:24:30Oh, wow. Will you take me there?

0:24:30 > 0:24:32- Let's go.- Let's go. Come on.

0:24:36 > 0:24:40Lionel is on his way to pay his respects to JL Brown

0:24:40 > 0:24:43at Pleasant Gardens Cemetery.

0:24:43 > 0:24:45Pleasant Gardens was an African-American owned

0:24:45 > 0:24:48and operated cemetery, founded in 1890,

0:24:48 > 0:24:51and was the primary burial ground for black men and women

0:24:51 > 0:24:53in Chattanooga.

0:25:00 > 0:25:04This is not exactly what I expected.

0:25:11 > 0:25:12Man.

0:25:17 > 0:25:20Is Great-Granddaddy close by?

0:25:20 > 0:25:23Yeah, I can show you the area.

0:25:23 > 0:25:26Yeah, I'd sure like to see it.

0:25:29 > 0:25:35This portion of the cemetery is the pauper's section of the cemetery.

0:25:38 > 0:25:41Some do have headstones

0:25:41 > 0:25:46but amongst those are many that don't.

0:25:46 > 0:25:50And it is believed that with the information

0:25:50 > 0:25:55that we have about JL, that he's buried in this section of the cemetery.

0:25:59 > 0:26:02I'm going to leave you a moment to reflect.

0:26:04 > 0:26:06- Thank you, my brother.- OK.

0:26:08 > 0:26:10Appreciate that.

0:26:14 > 0:26:18To know that your great-grandfather

0:26:18 > 0:26:20walked amongst this and was a part of this,

0:26:20 > 0:26:25it's moving. It's extremely moving.

0:26:25 > 0:26:30It's hard, because you can't really...

0:26:30 > 0:26:35you can't really... We take so much for granted.

0:26:35 > 0:26:40Because we're not face-to-face with the real stories.

0:26:42 > 0:26:45This is about as close to a spiritual awakening

0:26:45 > 0:26:47as I've ever had in my entire life.

0:26:50 > 0:26:53Even though his circumstances did not work out,

0:26:53 > 0:26:59I'm sure his heart was the same throughout.

0:26:59 > 0:27:02He wanted to see the community lifted up.

0:27:02 > 0:27:05And, you know, I am quite proud to be

0:27:05 > 0:27:10one of the guys that my great-grandfather lifted up.

0:27:14 > 0:27:18But what about his early years? So far I've learned

0:27:18 > 0:27:21that JL was born before slavery was abolished,

0:27:21 > 0:27:24and that his father's name was Morgan Brown

0:27:24 > 0:27:26but that his mother's name was unknown.

0:27:26 > 0:27:29So the question still remains.

0:27:29 > 0:27:33Was my great-grandfather born a slave or a free man?

0:27:33 > 0:27:37Lionel knows that JL was working in Nashville in the 1870s.

0:27:37 > 0:27:40So he's meeting historian Ervin Jordan

0:27:40 > 0:27:42to see if he can find out any more information.

0:27:43 > 0:27:46What did you find?

0:27:46 > 0:27:49Well, let's begin with this first document.

0:27:49 > 0:27:50Oh, God.

0:27:50 > 0:27:54It says here, "State of Tennessee.

0:27:54 > 0:27:58- "Colored man's application for pension."- Yes.

0:27:58 > 0:28:02"Filed, September 19, 1924."

0:28:02 > 0:28:04We had a pension back then?

0:28:04 > 0:28:06- Yes.- In 1924?

0:28:06 > 0:28:08- When he was 85.- Wow.

0:28:08 > 0:28:11All right, so now, "John L Brown, er,

0:28:11 > 0:28:16"a native of the state of Tennessee, and who was a servant

0:28:16 > 0:28:20"in the war between the United States

0:28:20 > 0:28:23"and the Confederate States."

0:28:23 > 0:28:26The Civil War. Wow.

0:28:28 > 0:28:31The American Civil War began in 1861.

0:28:33 > 0:28:36It was fought between the union states of the north,

0:28:36 > 0:28:38led by Abraham Lincoln, who wanted to abolish slavery

0:28:38 > 0:28:43and the Confederate States of the south who wanted to preserve it.

0:28:43 > 0:28:46As a native of the southern state of Tennessee,

0:28:46 > 0:28:50Lionel's great-grandfather, JL Brown, found himself at the heart

0:28:50 > 0:28:54of a conflict that would ravage the nation for four years.

0:28:54 > 0:28:57So I'm thinking a soldier and he was basically...

0:28:57 > 0:28:59He was not a soldier.

0:28:59 > 0:29:02- He was a body servant. - A body servant?

0:29:02 > 0:29:05He was a body servant to a Confederate officer.

0:29:05 > 0:29:08Now, what is a body servant?

0:29:08 > 0:29:12A body servant worked sort of as a butler to an officer or group of officers doing the war.

0:29:12 > 0:29:15Free blacks did it because they could get paid for it.

0:29:15 > 0:29:16Slaves usually didn't have a choice.

0:29:16 > 0:29:20Their owners would hire them out to an officer.

0:29:20 > 0:29:24He'd cook, polish the boots, provide food, take care of the horses,

0:29:24 > 0:29:28- even provide entertainment. - But it couldn't have been safe.

0:29:28 > 0:29:29It was a dangerous occupation.

0:29:29 > 0:29:32It wasn't one of glory or anything like that,

0:29:32 > 0:29:33it was very dangerous, highly risky.

0:29:33 > 0:29:36Several of these individuals were killed or maimed

0:29:36 > 0:29:37during the course of the war.

0:29:37 > 0:29:41Were they armed? Were they allowed to carry guns?

0:29:41 > 0:29:44A very small number were, but the vast majority of them

0:29:44 > 0:29:45didn't get one.

0:29:47 > 0:29:48Wow.

0:29:48 > 0:29:50But we have a photograph here

0:29:50 > 0:29:52fortunately not of your great-grandfather,

0:29:52 > 0:29:55showing a dead body servant, alongside what we believe

0:29:55 > 0:29:57was probably the person who hired him.

0:29:57 > 0:29:59- The body servant here?- That's him.

0:29:59 > 0:30:01He was probably minding his own business,

0:30:01 > 0:30:05an artillery shell came in and exploded, killed both of them.

0:30:05 > 0:30:08So it's a dangerous job, and your great-grandfather

0:30:08 > 0:30:09was a body servant.

0:30:11 > 0:30:13Mm. And that picture tells the story right there.

0:30:18 > 0:30:19All right, it says here...

0:30:19 > 0:30:22"When did you go with the army?"

0:30:22 > 0:30:26He served May 20th, 1861.

0:30:26 > 0:30:29So that would make him 22 years old.

0:30:29 > 0:30:31- Mm-hmm.- 22 years old.

0:30:31 > 0:30:35And here's one that just stands out right in front of me.

0:30:35 > 0:30:37It says, "Give the name of your owner."

0:30:37 > 0:30:40Morgan W Brown.

0:30:40 > 0:30:43"Give the name of your owner."

0:30:43 > 0:30:45This shows you that he was a slave, and that's why...

0:30:45 > 0:30:48- He was the owner. - He was the owner.

0:30:48 > 0:30:50And on JL Brown's death certificate,

0:30:50 > 0:30:53the name Morgan Brown was listed as his father.

0:30:53 > 0:30:55- Mm-hm.- Uh...

0:30:55 > 0:30:58I'm only assuming that Morgan W Brown

0:30:58 > 0:31:01and Morgan Brown, the owner, is the same guy.

0:31:01 > 0:31:05It's entirely possible.

0:31:05 > 0:31:08And it explains to me totally now where it also said

0:31:08 > 0:31:11on that other document, "Name of mother unknown."

0:31:11 > 0:31:13Ah.

0:31:13 > 0:31:16Oh, that touches me right there.

0:31:16 > 0:31:18That's crazy.

0:31:20 > 0:31:26I think the word that stabbed me through the heart was "owner."

0:31:26 > 0:31:31You know, those words are so far away from 2011.

0:31:31 > 0:31:35You know, it's just unbelievable.

0:31:35 > 0:31:37- Well, thank you. - You're very welcome.

0:31:37 > 0:31:38Thank you so much, Doctor.

0:31:38 > 0:31:43I'm clear on what I have to do now, I'm on the search now

0:31:43 > 0:31:46for Morgan W Brown and Morgan Brown.

0:31:46 > 0:31:50- Thank you, Professor. - You're very welcome, Mr Richie. Good luck with your search.

0:31:50 > 0:31:52'So who is Morgan W Brown?'

0:31:52 > 0:31:55Owner, father?

0:31:55 > 0:31:57I need to find the answer.

0:32:02 > 0:32:06Lionel is returning to Nashville to try to find out

0:32:06 > 0:32:09about Morgan Brown, the man listed as the father of JL Brown

0:32:09 > 0:32:11on JL's death certificate.

0:32:13 > 0:32:17He's visiting the Nashville Public Library

0:32:17 > 0:32:19to meet historian Jacqueline Jones.

0:32:19 > 0:32:22'I want to find out whether or not Morgan Brown

0:32:22 > 0:32:25'and Morgan W Brown are one and the same.'

0:32:25 > 0:32:27Do you know this guy named Morgan Brown?

0:32:27 > 0:32:29Well, it's confusing.

0:32:29 > 0:32:33Dr Morgan Brown had a son, Morgan W Brown.

0:32:33 > 0:32:34Ah, there we go.

0:32:34 > 0:32:37So to avoid confusion, I'm going to refer to the father as Dr Brown...

0:32:37 > 0:32:39Very good.

0:32:39 > 0:32:42- ..and the son as Morgan W Brown. - Very good.

0:32:42 > 0:32:44Well, let me go back and tell you about the doctor.

0:32:44 > 0:32:47He was a general physician here in Nashville.

0:32:47 > 0:32:53He owned a working slave plantation on the Cumberland River.

0:32:53 > 0:32:56So with that little introduction in mind,

0:32:56 > 0:33:00I have some documents here that you might find interesting.

0:33:00 > 0:33:06And the first is an excerpt from Dr Brown's diary.

0:33:06 > 0:33:09- We found his diary?- Yes. - I love it!- Yes.

0:33:09 > 0:33:12This is very small writing.

0:33:12 > 0:33:14Oh, my God, what is this?

0:33:14 > 0:33:18It says 1839 here.

0:33:18 > 0:33:21"This night, at about 10 or 11 o'clock,

0:33:21 > 0:33:25Mariah had a boy child born. Named him Louis.

0:33:27 > 0:33:29- Mariah.- Mariah.

0:33:29 > 0:33:33- We've now given a name to the mother. - Right.

0:33:33 > 0:33:36Mariah was one of Dr Morgan Brown's...

0:33:36 > 0:33:37BOTH: Slaves.

0:33:37 > 0:33:40Wow.

0:33:40 > 0:33:44There are several remarkable things about this.

0:33:44 > 0:33:49It was unusual for a master to make note of the name of a baby

0:33:49 > 0:33:53- born to a slave on a plantation. - Absolutely.

0:33:53 > 0:33:57He was the father, obviously, of that baby also.

0:33:57 > 0:33:59Well, we can only speculate.

0:33:59 > 0:34:02But just keep in mind that Dr Morgan Brown

0:34:02 > 0:34:04was about 80 years old.

0:34:04 > 0:34:07It's not unheard of...

0:34:07 > 0:34:09Mm-hm, mm-hm.

0:34:09 > 0:34:13..for an 80-year-old to have a child by a woman.

0:34:13 > 0:34:14But it is unusual.

0:34:14 > 0:34:17Morgan W Brown was 39...

0:34:17 > 0:34:19Wow.

0:34:19 > 0:34:21..when John Louis was born.

0:34:21 > 0:34:23Got it.

0:34:23 > 0:34:27So we have to go on and look at other pieces of evidence.

0:34:27 > 0:34:31One of the most remarkable documents is...

0:34:31 > 0:34:34- You mean that wasn't the remarkable document?!- No!

0:34:34 > 0:34:37Even more remarkable, I think, is the will

0:34:37 > 0:34:40that Dr Morgan Brown wrote.

0:34:40 > 0:34:44- And this is the original will he wrote.- This is the original will?

0:34:44 > 0:34:49This is the original and he wrote it in August 1839.

0:34:49 > 0:34:52Now keep in mind that Mariah was pregnant.

0:34:52 > 0:34:54Got it.

0:34:54 > 0:34:57He's writing this will about the middle of her pregnancy.

0:35:00 > 0:35:02So in his will, Dr Morgan Brown

0:35:02 > 0:35:06says that Mariah should be freed from slavery.

0:35:06 > 0:35:08And then he goes on to say,

0:35:08 > 0:35:11"Once her unborn child is born,

0:35:11 > 0:35:15"that he should be freed, just like his mother."

0:35:15 > 0:35:19And not only does Dr Brown leave Mariah a place

0:35:19 > 0:35:22for her and her son to live,

0:35:22 > 0:35:24but he also gives my great-grandfather

0:35:24 > 0:35:26two years of schooling.

0:35:28 > 0:35:30Unbelievable.

0:35:36 > 0:35:38That is absolutely unheard of back then.

0:35:38 > 0:35:42- It's very unusual. - Because the law was not to educate.

0:35:42 > 0:35:44Right, there were many laws

0:35:44 > 0:35:48that outlawed slaves becoming literate at all.

0:35:48 > 0:35:52Well, it's pretty clear that Louis got his education.

0:35:52 > 0:35:54Right.

0:35:54 > 0:35:57Cos he was a sharp, sharp guy.

0:35:57 > 0:36:01Well, now, again, this was in his will. Was Mariah freed?

0:36:01 > 0:36:07Well, we're not sure, but what he's intending is that Mariah

0:36:07 > 0:36:11and this baby should be free when he dies.

0:36:11 > 0:36:14And then later in the will he says,

0:36:14 > 0:36:19"She might want to live by herself, and if she does, here on my land

0:36:19 > 0:36:22"is where I would like her to have her own little cabin."

0:36:22 > 0:36:23Right.

0:36:23 > 0:36:26But his son, Morgan W,

0:36:26 > 0:36:30was the one would be carrying out the will.

0:36:30 > 0:36:33And I think that's one of the big question marks. Did he...

0:36:33 > 0:36:36- ..follow through?- It's ambiguous.

0:36:36 > 0:36:39Let me show you this slave census.

0:36:39 > 0:36:43If you can see the census-taker has written,

0:36:43 > 0:36:47"Brown, Morgan's slaves."

0:36:47 > 0:36:51But if we look here, the very last row, we can see that there are

0:36:51 > 0:36:56no free people, either white or black, living on this plantation.

0:37:00 > 0:37:04So she has no master living on the plantation,

0:37:04 > 0:37:07so she might still be categorised legally.

0:37:07 > 0:37:09- As slave.- As slave.

0:37:09 > 0:37:12But she might have some kind of quasi-freedom.

0:37:12 > 0:37:16- Mm-hm. This is her property.- Right. - How about that? I mean...

0:37:16 > 0:37:21I feel so relieved for Mariah.

0:37:21 > 0:37:23Mm-hm.

0:37:23 > 0:37:26Because, you know, there is some compassion here.

0:37:26 > 0:37:30Yes. Let me show you a picture

0:37:30 > 0:37:32that I have taken from a painting...

0:37:32 > 0:37:37- Oh!- ..of Morgan W Brown.

0:37:42 > 0:37:44Oh, geez.

0:37:44 > 0:37:46Unbelievable.

0:37:48 > 0:37:51This is Morgan W, this is the son.

0:37:51 > 0:37:56This is the son who is possibly your great-grandfather's father,

0:37:56 > 0:38:01or possibly your great-grandfather's half-brother.

0:38:01 > 0:38:04Unbelievable.

0:38:04 > 0:38:08You know, when we first started this journey, I was always

0:38:08 > 0:38:10thinking in the back of my head,

0:38:10 > 0:38:13you know, that we would uncover

0:38:13 > 0:38:17an ancestor like this.

0:38:17 > 0:38:20But to be standing here face-to-face

0:38:20 > 0:38:23with the photograph

0:38:23 > 0:38:27is pretty, er... unnerving on one respect,

0:38:27 > 0:38:30and empowering on another, you know what I'm saying?

0:38:30 > 0:38:33Because it was a brutal time.

0:38:33 > 0:38:35It was an extremely brutal time.

0:38:36 > 0:38:41And for Doc Morgan...

0:38:41 > 0:38:44or for Morgan W,

0:38:44 > 0:38:46to even think for a moment

0:38:46 > 0:38:50to protect what was his...

0:38:52 > 0:38:56..was just the greatest gift.

0:38:56 > 0:39:00Doc Morgan, regardless of what the situation was,

0:39:00 > 0:39:05he wanted to make sure that the kid, Louis, was taken care of.

0:39:05 > 0:39:09JL didn't really know

0:39:09 > 0:39:12what the true suffering was, because inside of his bubble,

0:39:12 > 0:39:18which was the shelter that Doc Morgan provided for him,

0:39:18 > 0:39:21he was able to learn and reason

0:39:21 > 0:39:24outside of the pain and agony of slavery.

0:39:24 > 0:39:29And for me, Tuskegee University

0:39:29 > 0:39:31was MY protective place.

0:39:31 > 0:39:35And of course the same circumstance happens with...

0:39:36 > 0:39:38..with JL, you know.

0:39:38 > 0:39:42It was pretty remarkable.

0:39:42 > 0:39:45Pretty remarkable.

0:39:49 > 0:39:52Lionel has reached the end of his journey.

0:39:52 > 0:39:55He's back home in Los Angeles to tell his family all he's discovered

0:39:55 > 0:39:59about his great-grandfather, John Louis Brown.

0:40:00 > 0:40:02Thank you very much.

0:40:02 > 0:40:05You know this amazing journey would not be complete

0:40:05 > 0:40:07if I didn't share it with my younger sister Deborah

0:40:07 > 0:40:10and two of my children, Miles and Sofia.

0:40:10 > 0:40:15You are coming from the genes and the blood

0:40:15 > 0:40:17of very strong people...

0:40:22 > 0:40:27..who actually fought for the freedom -

0:40:27 > 0:40:29their freedom,

0:40:29 > 0:40:32- and also the freedom of black America.- Mm-hmm.

0:40:32 > 0:40:37You should be very proud to know that that's in your family history.

0:40:37 > 0:40:41So to understand how fortunate we are now,

0:40:41 > 0:40:44we are here because of their struggle.

0:40:44 > 0:40:46'When we first started this journey'

0:40:46 > 0:40:48it was interesting because

0:40:48 > 0:40:52I kept thinking, for the longest time,

0:40:52 > 0:40:57that the family was actually keeping a big secret from us.

0:40:57 > 0:41:01'Because it was just things that were not pleasant.'

0:41:01 > 0:41:05They didn't talk about it. That's just that simple.

0:41:05 > 0:41:09Velenderver married John Louis Brown.

0:41:09 > 0:41:12'Now that I'm at the end of the journey,

0:41:12 > 0:41:15'I can honestly say that I don't think that my grandmother

0:41:15 > 0:41:17'withheld the information.'

0:41:17 > 0:41:19Um, I think she didn't know.

0:41:19 > 0:41:24Your great-great-great-grandmother

0:41:24 > 0:41:28is Mariah, who was a slave.

0:41:28 > 0:41:32I am in awe of the strength of not only my grandparents

0:41:32 > 0:41:35and great-grandparents,

0:41:35 > 0:41:38'but just of the strength of black America.'

0:41:40 > 0:41:42What this has done for me is kind of given me a sense

0:41:42 > 0:41:47that I'm standing on these very powerful shoulders...

0:41:47 > 0:41:50of, er...

0:41:50 > 0:41:52of a people that just will not take the word...

0:41:54 > 0:41:56..defeat.

0:41:56 > 0:41:59Um, that... I'm very, very proud,

0:41:59 > 0:42:02very proud to be there.

0:42:02 > 0:42:04Through your adventures,

0:42:04 > 0:42:07was there anything that really struck you the most?

0:42:09 > 0:42:13The part that moved me the most was that, er,

0:42:13 > 0:42:16JL would have been so proud of us

0:42:16 > 0:42:20because his dream is our reality.

0:42:22 > 0:42:25And it's... HE SIGHS

0:42:25 > 0:42:28Deep breath! Deep breath!

0:42:28 > 0:42:30Oh, kid, I love you.

0:42:30 > 0:42:32Well, it's done. It's done.

0:42:32 > 0:42:34- Oh, my God.- All right?

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