Sheridan Smith

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0:00:08 > 0:00:11I found it a bit overwhelming being down here in London.

0:00:11 > 0:00:15You know, coming from up north and not speaking proper,

0:00:15 > 0:00:19and doing plays like Hedda Gabler, which I hadn't even heard of,

0:00:19 > 0:00:21Everyone was going, "How embarrassing,

0:00:21 > 0:00:23"you shouldn't admit that you didn't know that play."

0:00:23 > 0:00:25But I don't know Hedda Gabler.

0:00:25 > 0:00:28And so...that was quite hard to adapt to really.

0:00:28 > 0:00:31And I do feel a bit like kind of Alice in Wonderland

0:00:31 > 0:00:33who's fallen down this rabbit hole

0:00:33 > 0:00:35and come to this mad world here in London.

0:00:37 > 0:00:40In 1997, at the age of 16,

0:00:40 > 0:00:44Sheridan Smith left home to become an actress in London.

0:00:47 > 0:00:49Over more than a decade since,

0:00:49 > 0:00:52she's become a star on both stage and screen.

0:00:58 > 0:01:00There has been that thing that I'm like, "No, come on you can do it."

0:01:00 > 0:01:03And I don't know if it's the working class in me,

0:01:03 > 0:01:05but I must have a bit of determination.

0:01:05 > 0:01:09Just a little something in my belly that...keeps driving me,

0:01:09 > 0:01:11but it's terrifying at the same time.

0:01:11 > 0:01:13- Excuse me, I'll just put me lash on. - SHE LAUGHS

0:01:15 > 0:01:18Sheridan has performed since she was a child,

0:01:18 > 0:01:22singing alongside her parents in the workingmen's clubs

0:01:22 > 0:01:24near their home in North Lincolnshire.

0:01:24 > 0:01:27My dad did always say that I could sing from when I was little,

0:01:27 > 0:01:29they used to put on me on this stool

0:01:29 > 0:01:31and then I used to whack this massive voice out.

0:01:31 > 0:01:33And people would be like,

0:01:33 > 0:01:36"How's that big voice coming out of somebody so small?!"

0:01:36 > 0:01:37That's probably why I'm so gobby now.

0:01:37 > 0:01:41But I love singing. I've always loved singing.

0:01:41 > 0:01:42SHE CLICKS HER FINGERS

0:01:42 > 0:01:44I love my dad. I'm such a daddy's girl.

0:01:44 > 0:01:47I absolutely adore him and...

0:01:47 > 0:01:50he's been the one who's always wanted to find out about his family.

0:01:50 > 0:01:54- Here she comes.- My dad is somehow just so musically talented.

0:01:54 > 0:01:58I've always thought my dad must have musical bones.

0:01:58 > 0:02:01There must be musicians in my family. There's got to be.

0:02:01 > 0:02:03Lovely. Thank you, my darling.

0:02:03 > 0:02:05Cos otherwise where's my dad's talent come from?

0:02:05 > 0:02:07- SHE SIGHS - Ready.

0:02:46 > 0:02:49I'm so grateful to be working all the time,

0:02:49 > 0:02:51but, you know, you kind of go from job to job

0:02:51 > 0:02:54with meeting new little families and then you're off on to the next one,

0:02:54 > 0:02:56so you're never kind of stable.

0:02:56 > 0:02:58And the one thing I've got is my family up north.

0:02:58 > 0:03:01Yeah, that is like my little safe haven.

0:03:06 > 0:03:09This is my home stretch this bit.

0:03:09 > 0:03:11And...I just get really excited.

0:03:11 > 0:03:16I get excited about seeing them and...

0:03:16 > 0:03:20So tonight, I'm going to my mum and dad's club that they gig at,

0:03:20 > 0:03:22Bentley Top Club.

0:03:22 > 0:03:25But, yeah, this...this stretch here is just...

0:03:25 > 0:03:28I love it, it's beautiful.

0:03:33 > 0:03:36My mum and dad are a country and western duo.

0:03:36 > 0:03:39They've always been musicians, that's their living.

0:03:40 > 0:03:44My dad plays guitar, Hawaiian steel guitar, banjo.

0:03:44 > 0:03:46My mum plays mandolin, bass guitar.

0:03:46 > 0:03:49I mean, I remember at school, when I used to go to school,

0:03:49 > 0:03:51and dad would turn up to pick me up

0:03:51 > 0:03:53with his 'tache, looking like a cowboy.

0:03:53 > 0:03:55SHE LAUGHS

0:03:55 > 0:03:58But this country and western scene was huge up north.

0:03:58 > 0:03:59This is going to be great.

0:03:59 > 0:04:02I'm so excited! We're here.

0:04:02 > 0:04:04Here we are, Bentley Top Club.

0:04:04 > 0:04:06SHE CHUCKLES

0:04:08 > 0:04:09Here we go.

0:04:11 > 0:04:14MUSIC PLAYS INSIDE

0:04:17 > 0:04:19- Ah! - SHE LAUGHS

0:04:19 > 0:04:23- WOMAN:- # You won't be late tonight Will you, mamma?

0:04:23 > 0:04:26# You won't be late tonight Will you, mamma? #

0:04:31 > 0:04:34- APPLAUSE - I used to go to the clubs with them

0:04:34 > 0:04:36since I was four, till like 16.

0:04:36 > 0:04:37And even now when I go home,

0:04:37 > 0:04:39I'll get up and sing, do a number with them.

0:04:39 > 0:04:40WHISTLING AND APPLAUSE

0:04:40 > 0:04:44It's our little family thing that we do when I go back.

0:04:44 > 0:04:47And now...the highlight of the evening.

0:04:47 > 0:04:49I'm going to bring my little girl...

0:04:49 > 0:04:51Sheridan Smith, ladies and gentlemen. Sheridan!

0:04:51 > 0:04:54Our Sheridan! Our very own Sheridan! CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:04:54 > 0:04:57I don't think I've ever met anyone else's parents

0:04:57 > 0:04:58who were a country and western duo.

0:04:58 > 0:05:00It's quite surreal, really.

0:05:00 > 0:05:03They're from Doncaster! Like, a little village in Doncaster

0:05:03 > 0:05:05and they're singing songs from Nashville.

0:05:05 > 0:05:07I'm going to sing you a song.

0:05:07 > 0:05:10# I met him in a bar room

0:05:10 > 0:05:14# He was a thousand miles from home

0:05:14 > 0:05:18# He said I just can't settle down

0:05:18 > 0:05:21# I always need to roam... #

0:05:21 > 0:05:24My mates don't believe me down in London when I tell them,

0:05:24 > 0:05:27until I take them back and then they're like,

0:05:27 > 0:05:29"Wow! OK. This really happens up here."

0:05:29 > 0:05:32# Now he's back on the road a loner... #

0:05:32 > 0:05:35We love a Wednesday night down at the Bentley Top Club.

0:05:35 > 0:05:36SHE LAUGHS

0:05:36 > 0:05:40# Come home with me Romany Cowboy

0:05:40 > 0:05:43# I'll keep you warm tonight... #

0:05:45 > 0:05:48Sheridan's back home in the house where she grew up,

0:05:48 > 0:05:50not far from Doncaster.

0:05:50 > 0:05:53It's 16 years since she left here for London

0:05:53 > 0:05:55and until now she's never found the time

0:05:55 > 0:05:58to ask her parents about the family background.

0:05:58 > 0:06:01Right...I want to know everything.

0:06:02 > 0:06:06- Remember that?- Mark and Madeleine, yeah. Oh, my God!

0:06:06 > 0:06:10- Your legs, Mother!- Well, my skirt, look, is over my shoulder

0:06:10 > 0:06:12because we used to do song and dance then.

0:06:12 > 0:06:15- Oh, and you used to rip it off? - Yeah.

0:06:15 > 0:06:18- Oh, like... # Making your mind up! # - Yeah.- I was a dance man.

0:06:18 > 0:06:23- Did you dance?- Yeah. Tap dancing, yeah.- You did not tap dance!- I did.

0:06:23 > 0:06:24He's still got his tap shoes upstairs.

0:06:24 > 0:06:26How did I never know that you tap danced?

0:06:26 > 0:06:29- Oh, yeah.- I love a bit of a tap.

0:06:29 > 0:06:31So this was before the country and western?

0:06:31 > 0:06:34- Oh, yeah.- You looked like me, Mum, didn't you?

0:06:34 > 0:06:36I mean, I look like you.

0:06:36 > 0:06:37THEY LAUGH

0:06:37 > 0:06:40You were clean shaven then, you didn't have any... Yeah.

0:06:40 > 0:06:44And then that's when we moved to country and western.

0:06:44 > 0:06:46See his cowboy hat on there?

0:06:46 > 0:06:50Oh, yeah. You've got the instruments now. But why country music?

0:06:50 > 0:06:56Started in the army, when I was in the army in Egypt in the '50s.

0:06:56 > 0:06:58And I walked in the NAAFI...

0:06:58 > 0:07:03A NAAFI's like...a big concert room with a bar.

0:07:03 > 0:07:07You know, you can have a drink or a cup of tea, a pint.

0:07:07 > 0:07:12And there was a kid, a lad, sat on a high stool with a guitar

0:07:12 > 0:07:14and he's playing country and western.

0:07:14 > 0:07:18- I thought it was the most wonderful thing I'd ever heard.- Aw!

0:07:18 > 0:07:19I thought, "I must get a guitar."

0:07:19 > 0:07:23And, of course, my dad was a professional musician.

0:07:23 > 0:07:25- He was a cellist, wasn't he?- Yeah.

0:07:25 > 0:07:28- He was classical music, you see, classical music.- Was he?

0:07:28 > 0:07:31He looked down a bit on guitars and things like that, you know.

0:07:31 > 0:07:33- You're self-taught?- Self-taught.

0:07:33 > 0:07:36- That's amazing. - Play In A Day, Bert Weedon. LAUGHTER

0:07:36 > 0:07:40- And you're a brilliant banjo player, aren't you?- Well, no...- You are.

0:07:40 > 0:07:43- I wouldn't say that.- You are. - HE LAUGHS

0:07:43 > 0:07:47- That's...my dad. - See, I've not seen any of this.

0:07:47 > 0:07:51- My dad with his... It's an orchestra, really.- I never met Grandad, did I?

0:07:51 > 0:07:53No. So that's me dad.

0:07:53 > 0:07:55Absolutely lovely man.

0:07:55 > 0:07:58- Loveliest man you could ever wish, my dad.- Like you.

0:07:58 > 0:08:00Oh, he was really placid, you know.

0:08:00 > 0:08:03Me dad used to play at the Mansion House in Doncaster

0:08:03 > 0:08:07when the Queen came...for the St Leger racing. SHERIDAN GASPS

0:08:07 > 0:08:10- Really?!- A little string quartet in the corner,

0:08:10 > 0:08:15you know, playing mood music, all dressed up in a bow tie and...

0:08:15 > 0:08:18- Blooming heck!- He used to come back plaiting his legs. LAUGHTER

0:08:18 > 0:08:21Yeah, cos he was only a little fellow

0:08:21 > 0:08:24and he used to strap his cello on his back

0:08:24 > 0:08:27and from the back it looked like a cello walking down road.

0:08:27 > 0:08:30- LAUGHTER You could just see his feet, you know.- Was he really small?

0:08:30 > 0:08:33- Yeah, very small, yeah. - That's why I'm so diddy.

0:08:33 > 0:08:36And he'd come back with a bunch of flowers for me mum

0:08:36 > 0:08:38and a box of cigars under his arms.

0:08:38 > 0:08:43- And Nana used to play the organ, didn't she?- Piano.- Piano.- And sing.

0:08:43 > 0:08:45- And sing. I remember... - Oh, she could knock out a tune.

0:08:45 > 0:08:47I really remember when I was little

0:08:47 > 0:08:50- that I used to go round and she'd play.- She loved her Guinness.

0:08:50 > 0:08:53And she'd put a pint of Guinness on piano.

0:08:53 > 0:08:56Well, people used to buy 'em for her, you know, to keep her playing.

0:08:56 > 0:08:58And she'd be banging away and this Guinness would be...

0:08:58 > 0:09:02Piano'd be moving and this Guinness would be moving about on top.

0:09:02 > 0:09:03I used to stand there as a kid.

0:09:03 > 0:09:06I were watching it thinking, "It's going to fall in a minute." SHERIDAN LAUGHS

0:09:06 > 0:09:10That's like me coming and watching you two gigging when I was little.

0:09:10 > 0:09:12Oh, she could rattle the piano.

0:09:12 > 0:09:15Like Winifred Atwell, she could play in all these different styles.

0:09:17 > 0:09:19Ah, there's Nana.

0:09:19 > 0:09:21- And your mother's called...? - Hettie.- Hettie.

0:09:21 > 0:09:26- Hettie. - Yes. And that's me mum's dad.

0:09:26 > 0:09:28- Doubleday.- Ah!

0:09:28 > 0:09:32William Doubleday. He was the boss in the steelworks.

0:09:32 > 0:09:34He's your great-grandfather.

0:09:34 > 0:09:38- Used to frighten me, very strict. - Oh, yeah?- Oh, God, yeah.

0:09:38 > 0:09:42He'd got a little baby grand in his room

0:09:42 > 0:09:45and that's probably why me mum took it up as well, you know.

0:09:45 > 0:09:48- So that's Doubleday?- Yeah.- And that's me Nana's dad?

0:09:48 > 0:09:52Yes. But...have a look at this.

0:09:52 > 0:09:54This is amazing.

0:09:55 > 0:09:58- Ohh!- These are Doubledays.

0:09:58 > 0:10:01- These are The Three Darrells. - It was just a stage name?

0:10:01 > 0:10:03It was their stage name as far as I know.

0:10:03 > 0:10:06- So where were they from? - From Sheffield.- Ah, right.- Yeah.

0:10:06 > 0:10:10- We're all Sheffield family.- The whole family, as far as you can remember?

0:10:10 > 0:10:11Yeah, we're all Sheffield.

0:10:11 > 0:10:14I wonder why it was banjos that they played?

0:10:16 > 0:10:18It's an amazing shot that.

0:10:18 > 0:10:22- I love it! I've never seen that. - I'd love to know...

0:10:22 > 0:10:25- More about this picture? - Yeah.- It's fantastic.

0:10:25 > 0:10:28I've definitely got to find out who this guy is.

0:10:28 > 0:10:29Yeah.

0:10:38 > 0:10:40Sheridan's on her way to Sheffield

0:10:40 > 0:10:43where the Doubleday branch of her family was from.

0:10:44 > 0:10:47She's meeting genealogist, Eileen Butcher,

0:10:47 > 0:10:51hoping to discover more about the banjo player in her father's photo.

0:10:55 > 0:10:57- There's this picture.- Oh!

0:10:57 > 0:11:00Which is amazing! It's the best thing I've ever seen.

0:11:00 > 0:11:01So these are the Doubledays.

0:11:01 > 0:11:04OK. So the furthest you've got back is William Doubleday.

0:11:04 > 0:11:07- Which was my dad's grandfather, my great-grandfather.- Yeah. OK.

0:11:07 > 0:11:11I've done some research and we've got his father's birth certificate,

0:11:11 > 0:11:14- so we're going back another generation.- Yeah.

0:11:14 > 0:11:16So this is your great-great-grandfather,

0:11:16 > 0:11:18Benjamin Doubleday.

0:11:18 > 0:11:20Wow!

0:11:20 > 0:11:25"Benjamin, boy. The year is 17th February, 1856."

0:11:25 > 0:11:28So this tells you where he was born.

0:11:28 > 0:11:30It tells you in the first column.

0:11:30 > 0:11:33"Union Workhouse, New Sleaford."

0:11:33 > 0:11:35Probably what's happened in this case

0:11:35 > 0:11:37is that the family are in the workhouse

0:11:37 > 0:11:39because of monetary worries and so on,

0:11:39 > 0:11:40so they've ended up in the workhouse.

0:11:40 > 0:11:43- Really?- Yeah. So it's very humble beginnings.

0:11:43 > 0:11:46- Ah, so he was born in the workhouse? - Yeah.- That's amazing.

0:11:46 > 0:11:49And so this is a marriage certificate.

0:11:49 > 0:11:51Eileen reveals to Sheridan

0:11:51 > 0:11:55that her great-great-grandfather, Benjamin Doubleday,

0:11:55 > 0:11:57went on to marry Sarah Jane Collins.

0:11:57 > 0:12:00It gives you the date of marriage.

0:12:00 > 0:12:02"27th March, 1883."

0:12:02 > 0:12:07Sheridan discovers that Benjamin and Sarah Jane had four children.

0:12:07 > 0:12:11Her great-grandfather William had three sisters,

0:12:11 > 0:12:14May Fanny, Harriet and Caroline.

0:12:14 > 0:12:18And her birth certificate holds a clue about Benjamin.

0:12:18 > 0:12:21"5th April, 1890.

0:12:21 > 0:12:27"Caroline...Maud, a girl by Benjamin Doubleday

0:12:27 > 0:12:29"and Sarah Jane Doubleday.

0:12:29 > 0:12:33"Occupation of father - Teacher of music."

0:12:33 > 0:12:37- SHERIDAN GASPS - We've got one other little... - Oh, gosh! It's getting so exciting.

0:12:37 > 0:12:39Now, this is from a newspaper.

0:12:39 > 0:12:44Yeah. "The Sheffield and Rotherham Independent, November 25th, 1886.

0:12:44 > 0:12:47"Concert at the Parish Room, Sharrow.

0:12:47 > 0:12:50"A most successful entertainment took place on Tuesday evening

0:12:50 > 0:12:53"in aid of the funds of the workingmen's club

0:12:53 > 0:12:55"in connection with St Andrew's Church.

0:12:55 > 0:13:00"One notable feature was the banjo playing of Mr B Doubleday,

0:13:00 > 0:13:04"whose remarkable power over that instrument

0:13:04 > 0:13:07"proved it capable of much greater resources

0:13:07 > 0:13:10"than are generally attributed to it.

0:13:10 > 0:13:13"His rendering of Home Sweet Home with..."

0:13:13 > 0:13:16Oh, God! I'm getting all emotional. Can't believe this!

0:13:16 > 0:13:19"His rendering of Home Sweet Home

0:13:19 > 0:13:23"with variations was received with enthusiastic applause."

0:13:23 > 0:13:25Oh, God! I can't... Don't!

0:13:25 > 0:13:30- Ah! It's like a little review, isn't it?- It is.

0:13:30 > 0:13:33I can't read it now, cos I can't see!

0:13:33 > 0:13:36Idiot! Oh, gosh! It's amazing!

0:13:36 > 0:13:40"His rendering of Home Sweet Home with variations

0:13:40 > 0:13:43"was received with enthusiastic applause

0:13:43 > 0:13:46- "and merited the determined encore which followed."- Yeah.

0:13:46 > 0:13:51- So he was a banjo player?- Yes. - An amazing one by the sounds of it.

0:13:51 > 0:13:54- That explains the banjos.- It does.

0:13:54 > 0:13:57And my dad plays the banjo, brilliantly.

0:13:57 > 0:14:00Well, I don't know about as well as Mr Benjamin Doubleday!

0:14:00 > 0:14:02Wow! It's so brilliant!

0:14:02 > 0:14:05I can't wait for my dad to find this all out.

0:14:05 > 0:14:09Honestly, I'm so... This is going to be such a journey.

0:14:15 > 0:14:20I want to figure out now where his banjo playing came from.

0:14:20 > 0:14:24Where Benjamin Doubleday... How he became a teacher of music.

0:14:24 > 0:14:28So was he self-taught...like my dad's done? I don't know.

0:14:28 > 0:14:31I just want to know more about the Doubledays now.

0:14:31 > 0:14:34The fact that like a century ago

0:14:34 > 0:14:38that he got a review saying he was astonishing is just so exciting.

0:14:38 > 0:14:42- I'm so chuffed. This is amazing! - SHE LAUGHS

0:14:46 > 0:14:51An hour down the motorway at Leeds University is Professor Derek Scott,

0:14:51 > 0:14:53a specialist in music from the period

0:14:53 > 0:14:55when Benjamin Doubleday played the banjo.

0:14:57 > 0:15:00Hello, Professor Derek.

0:15:00 > 0:15:04- Well...- It's an honour to meet you. - It's an honour to meet you, too.

0:15:04 > 0:15:06Really? Well, thank you for having me.

0:15:06 > 0:15:10- So, Professor Derek, I've got a review to read you...- OK.

0:15:10 > 0:15:11..that made me cry.

0:15:11 > 0:15:12So it says,

0:15:12 > 0:15:17"Mr B Doubleday, his rendering of Home Sweet Home with variations

0:15:17 > 0:15:19"was received with enthusiastic applause

0:15:19 > 0:15:22"and merited the determined encore which followed."

0:15:22 > 0:15:26- I mean, what a review!- That is amazing, yeah.- Isn't that amazing?

0:15:26 > 0:15:29And so how would he have learnt to play the banjo?

0:15:29 > 0:15:34Well, I think that he had something like this, a banjo instructor.

0:15:34 > 0:15:36- So do you think he was self-taught? - I think he was self-taught.- Yes!

0:15:36 > 0:15:39See, my dad is, my dad's self-taught.

0:15:39 > 0:15:42Where did this banjo come from, do you think?

0:15:42 > 0:15:46The banjo came to Britain when a kind of entertainment

0:15:46 > 0:15:50we now know as Black Face Minstrelsy arrived in 1843,

0:15:50 > 0:15:53the Virginia Minstrels.

0:15:53 > 0:15:55They were all white but they used burnt cork,

0:15:55 > 0:15:59they pretended to be plantation African Americans playing.

0:15:59 > 0:16:02And this was the normal style.

0:16:02 > 0:16:06- Let me just show you the kind of banjo at this time.- Wow!

0:16:06 > 0:16:08- What a great instrument!- Um...

0:16:08 > 0:16:12It doesn't have a resonator on the back, so it's not as loud.

0:16:12 > 0:16:16- It's got the...nylon strings. - HE STRUMS

0:16:16 > 0:16:19It would have had gut strings.

0:16:19 > 0:16:23- It's a very different sound, isn't it?- And no frets on it at this time,

0:16:23 > 0:16:24it was like a violin.

0:16:24 > 0:16:28- The kind of minstrel style was just... - HE PLUCKS THE BANJO

0:16:28 > 0:16:31It just went like...

0:16:31 > 0:16:35You'd simply put a thimble on your finger, and strummed the banjo.

0:16:35 > 0:16:40- If I played a tune... - HE PLUCKS THE BANJO

0:16:40 > 0:16:42- ..it's too abrupt.- Yeah.

0:16:42 > 0:16:45So a style of banjo developed,

0:16:45 > 0:16:48and your great-great-grandfather would have been part of this,

0:16:48 > 0:16:51where you just used the thumb, index finger, middle finger

0:16:51 > 0:16:54and try to keep the banjo going all the time.

0:16:54 > 0:16:57HE PLAYS MORE FLUIDLY

0:17:05 > 0:17:07- I mean it's not...- That's amazing!

0:17:07 > 0:17:09I'm not a banjoist, but that's the kind of style.

0:17:09 > 0:17:12And this became known as the classic banjo style,

0:17:12 > 0:17:15- which is still used today. - Like my dad does.

0:17:15 > 0:17:18So that review, saying that he...

0:17:18 > 0:17:21Where was it? Let me read it, that last bit where it says,

0:17:21 > 0:17:24"..whose remarkable power over that instrument

0:17:24 > 0:17:26"proved it capable of much greater resources

0:17:26 > 0:17:28"than are generally attributed to it."

0:17:28 > 0:17:31- It's that... So he... - Yes, I think...

0:17:31 > 0:17:33- That's his plucking and everything? - I think so, yes.

0:17:33 > 0:17:35BANJO PLAYS

0:17:42 > 0:17:47Benjamin Doubleday was a trail blazer in this new style of finger-picking.

0:17:49 > 0:17:54By the time he performed Home Sweet Home in 1886,

0:17:54 > 0:17:57the banjo was moving beyond minstrel shows,

0:17:57 > 0:18:00which had been popular with the middle and upper classes.

0:18:03 > 0:18:05This respectable audience

0:18:05 > 0:18:08now became interested in the banjo in its own right.

0:18:08 > 0:18:11They elevated it to the height of fashion

0:18:11 > 0:18:14with concerts and parlour performances.

0:18:16 > 0:18:19I think we've got another clipping in here

0:18:19 > 0:18:22that will show just how talented...

0:18:22 > 0:18:26- SHERIDAN LAUGHS - ..your great-great-grandfather was.

0:18:26 > 0:18:28Look at...this.

0:18:30 > 0:18:34- The Bohee Brothers.- "The Bohee Brothers at the Albert Hall."

0:18:34 > 0:18:38- It's the Sheffield Albert.- Oh. - Wait a minute, I should say...

0:18:38 > 0:18:41I know people go, "Oh, it's not the real one then."

0:18:41 > 0:18:42The Sheffield Albert Hall

0:18:42 > 0:18:45- was a wonderful, wonderful hall. - That's even better.

0:18:45 > 0:18:49- Of course.- It burnt down in 1937, unfortunately.- Oh, no!

0:18:49 > 0:18:54- But it was a grand hall. It was an impressive concert hall.- Wow!

0:18:54 > 0:18:56It held over a thousand people, it was...

0:18:56 > 0:18:58And who are the Bohee Brothers?

0:18:58 > 0:19:00They came to Britain in the 1890s

0:19:00 > 0:19:05and established themselves as the great banjo players of the day.

0:19:05 > 0:19:08Wow! So they've come over.

0:19:08 > 0:19:10"A special programme was provided

0:19:10 > 0:19:11"for the last evening at the Albert Hall,

0:19:11 > 0:19:14"but owing to the extremely unfavourable weather..."

0:19:14 > 0:19:15The weather was a nightmare!

0:19:15 > 0:19:18- Well, this is the grim north. - This is, isn't it?

0:19:18 > 0:19:19We're used to it up here.

0:19:19 > 0:19:21"..the unfavourable weather,

0:19:21 > 0:19:23"the attendance was not so good as it otherwise would have been.

0:19:23 > 0:19:27"In addition to the clever playing, acting and singing

0:19:27 > 0:19:29"of the Bohee Brothers and the members of their company,

0:19:29 > 0:19:34"Mr and Mrs Doubleday and several of their banjo pupils

0:19:34 > 0:19:36"attended and greatly delighted the audience

0:19:36 > 0:19:38"with a display of their skill

0:19:38 > 0:19:43"and proficiency on that now popular instrument."

0:19:43 > 0:19:47Wow! Mr and Mrs Doubleday!

0:19:47 > 0:19:52Both he and his wife are playing, but also they're playing

0:19:52 > 0:19:56with the greatest banjo players of the 19th century.

0:19:56 > 0:19:57- Ohh!- The Bohee Brothers,

0:19:57 > 0:20:00they were African American but they were from Canada.

0:20:00 > 0:20:04James Bohee was THE number one banjo player.

0:20:04 > 0:20:08It would be like...playing violin with Yehudi Menuhin.

0:20:08 > 0:20:11He was the outstanding player.

0:20:12 > 0:20:17Playing for respectable audiences, the self-taught Benjamin Doubleday

0:20:17 > 0:20:20had come a long way from his working-class roots.

0:20:20 > 0:20:25His earliest performances would most likely have been in public houses,

0:20:25 > 0:20:27in rooms used as music halls.

0:20:28 > 0:20:32CHATTER They were noisy places, crowded with working men

0:20:32 > 0:20:34expecting to hear bawdy songs,

0:20:34 > 0:20:37not the ideal venue for an accomplished musician.

0:20:39 > 0:20:42But as Benjamin Doubleday became more ambitious,

0:20:42 > 0:20:44he took advantage of the banjo's popularity

0:20:44 > 0:20:47with a very different audience.

0:20:47 > 0:20:50If you think of a pub song of the 19th century like...

0:20:50 > 0:20:52My name it is Sam Hall

0:20:52 > 0:20:54# Chimney sweep, chimney sweep... #

0:20:54 > 0:20:56And it ends, it has choruses with...

0:20:56 > 0:20:59# And I hate you one and all Damn your eyes! #

0:20:59 > 0:21:02You wouldn't sing that in a middle-class drawing room.

0:21:02 > 0:21:05- No.- But Home Sweet Home, let me give you...

0:21:05 > 0:21:06Oh, getting a rendition.

0:21:06 > 0:21:10..an example of this like your great-great-grandfather played.

0:21:10 > 0:21:12PIANO PLAYS

0:21:13 > 0:21:19# 'Mid pleasures and palaces

0:21:19 > 0:21:24# Though we may roam

0:21:24 > 0:21:29# Be it ever so humble

0:21:29 > 0:21:34# There's no place like home. #

0:21:34 > 0:21:35SHE LAUGHS

0:21:35 > 0:21:37You don't get more respectful than that.

0:21:37 > 0:21:41You're singing about the virtues of home, the family and all that.

0:21:41 > 0:21:45- Yeah.- So, of course, people would applaud very loudly,

0:21:45 > 0:21:48- thinking, "Victorian values." - HE LAUGHS

0:21:48 > 0:21:50Right. Oh, wow!

0:21:50 > 0:21:53Now, cos I keep doing these blooming plays in London

0:21:53 > 0:21:55that are so out of my depth,

0:21:55 > 0:21:56he must have been nervous

0:21:56 > 0:21:58playing with these posher audiences, mustn't he?

0:21:58 > 0:22:03He must have been, because people knew who the trades people were,

0:22:03 > 0:22:06who the working people were, who the upper-middle-class were,

0:22:06 > 0:22:10who the aristocracy were, just an accent would give him away.

0:22:10 > 0:22:15- "Oh, we've got a working man in our drawing room!"- Really?

0:22:15 > 0:22:19- So how...?- "But don't worry, he's a very good banjo player."

0:22:19 > 0:22:21But it's incredible, cos my mum and dad

0:22:21 > 0:22:23work all the workingmen's clubs up north

0:22:23 > 0:22:25playing country and western music.

0:22:25 > 0:22:28And my dad is fantastic on the banjo, so this is just...

0:22:28 > 0:22:31- But that is remarkable, isn't it? - It's just incredible.

0:22:31 > 0:22:34Because, you know, it was country and western music

0:22:34 > 0:22:36that saved the banjo really.

0:22:36 > 0:22:41That kind of five-string banjo was enabled to survive

0:22:41 > 0:22:45by early country musicians, Charlie Poole was an early example,

0:22:45 > 0:22:49but then in the 1940s people like Earl Scruggs

0:22:49 > 0:22:52in Bill Monroe's Bluegrass Boys...

0:22:52 > 0:22:55- And bluegrass develops with the five string banjo..- Bluegrass, that's it.

0:22:55 > 0:22:57I've heard my dad talking about bluegrass.

0:22:57 > 0:22:59And that's a three-finger style as well.

0:22:59 > 0:23:03- Right! So that's where the country and western link has come.- Yes!

0:23:03 > 0:23:05- I cannot tell you... - This song, you must play it.

0:23:05 > 0:23:07I can't say how excited I am to tell him all this.

0:23:07 > 0:23:10I'm so proud of how talented he is.

0:23:10 > 0:23:11This link is so special for me.

0:23:11 > 0:23:14I wonder, because when it comes to music,

0:23:14 > 0:23:19it's amazing how often a family seems to pass musical ability down.

0:23:19 > 0:23:22You know, more and more on this journey,

0:23:22 > 0:23:23I'm wanting to learn to play.

0:23:23 > 0:23:26I feel like I've got to, I have to carry on the tradition.

0:23:26 > 0:23:28It's becoming compulsory now, yeah.

0:23:28 > 0:23:32- Look, here it is.- Is this where we're going?- Yeah.- Yeah!

0:23:32 > 0:23:34- I'm so excited!- Let's get in here.

0:23:34 > 0:23:37- OK.- Yes, I'm a gentleman. - Oh, excited. Thank you.

0:23:37 > 0:23:40- You are a gentleman. - Let's go. Hi, Nick.

0:23:40 > 0:23:42I've brought someone to see you.

0:23:42 > 0:23:45- Hello.- Sheridan.- Very nice to meet you. How are you?

0:23:45 > 0:23:47- I'm good. How are you? - I'm very excited.

0:23:47 > 0:23:49She's suddenly become interested in the banjo.

0:23:49 > 0:23:52- Got plenty of 'em.- Have you? Can I have a look, please?- Yeah.

0:23:52 > 0:23:54- Head over this way.- I've got the Prof with me.- Fellow expert.

0:23:54 > 0:23:57He's brought me to you. And...yes.

0:23:57 > 0:24:01- Oh, wow!- Quite a few.- There's quite a lot of different types.

0:24:01 > 0:24:04So something like this.

0:24:04 > 0:24:08- Wow!- Check the tuning. BANJO PLAYS

0:24:08 > 0:24:11- There you go.- It sounds amazing! - Nice and loud.

0:24:11 > 0:24:14- So...- Can I ask you a question?

0:24:14 > 0:24:17- Certainly.- Please. You know...

0:24:17 > 0:24:20- See my nails.- Uh-huh. SHERIDAN LAUGHS

0:24:20 > 0:24:22Now, I'm a massive Dolly Parton fan

0:24:22 > 0:24:25and she has big talons and can play,

0:24:25 > 0:24:27but she's got a certain way of doing it,

0:24:27 > 0:24:29now, is it best to have one hand with nails?

0:24:29 > 0:24:32On one hand it's brilliant, yes.

0:24:32 > 0:24:35On one hand it's really good, because it adds volume and attack.

0:24:35 > 0:24:36To the plucking, yeah.

0:24:36 > 0:24:39So it's really good, really useful to have.

0:24:39 > 0:24:42- On this hand, it's best to get rid of them.- OK.

0:24:42 > 0:24:46- If you can cope with it.- Dolly Parton doesn't.- But Dolly's amazing.

0:24:46 > 0:24:48- Dolly can do what she wants. - She keeps them long, I'll bet.

0:24:48 > 0:24:51- Yeah.- What if I can't play it?

0:24:51 > 0:24:53I'm sure you'll be fine.

0:24:53 > 0:24:56I shall bring a stool across, cos it's best to sit. I'll hand you that.

0:24:56 > 0:24:58- Oh, my God! I'm going to do it now?- Yeah. SHE SCREAMS

0:24:58 > 0:25:01I'm getting all hot under the collar cos it's pressure.

0:25:01 > 0:25:03My great-great-grandfather was amazing and so is my dad.

0:25:03 > 0:25:07- It will run in the family. You'll be fine.- You better be right.

0:25:07 > 0:25:10OK, do you want me to sit on here? Yeah, if you perch there

0:25:10 > 0:25:14and I will bring another stool through to...across there.

0:25:16 > 0:25:19Oh, my God, I've never even held a banjo before.

0:25:19 > 0:25:21It's amazing, my dad's going to love this.

0:25:21 > 0:25:23That's fine the way you're holding it.

0:25:23 > 0:25:28If you try having that finger just there on that string,

0:25:28 > 0:25:33- there...- Yeah.- ..and the other one on the final string.

0:25:33 > 0:25:35Here? No?

0:25:35 > 0:25:38- Yeah. Yes, that will do, yeah. - Or is that one I'm meant to do?

0:25:38 > 0:25:41Yeah, that's it. Now try...

0:25:44 > 0:25:47Right. And now take them off and play that.

0:25:49 > 0:25:51Now put them on again.

0:25:51 > 0:25:54- Now we could play a tune.- Could we? - We could do

0:25:54 > 0:25:57your great-great-grandfather's favourite - Home Sweet Home.

0:25:57 > 0:25:59Oh, stop it!

0:25:59 > 0:26:03If you just strum at first on those, first that chord...

0:26:03 > 0:26:04# Mid-pleasures... #

0:26:04 > 0:26:06Change chord. Open.

0:26:06 > 0:26:10# And palaces... #

0:26:10 > 0:26:12Open.

0:26:12 > 0:26:15# Though we may roam

0:26:15 > 0:26:19# Be it ever so humble

0:26:19 > 0:26:22# There's no place like home. #

0:26:22 > 0:26:24That's brilliant! That's amazing.

0:26:24 > 0:26:27- There you go. Playing the banjo. - I played the banjo!

0:26:27 > 0:26:29The first time you've ever picked up a banjo.

0:26:29 > 0:26:32Well, you helped by going duh-duh, duh-duh...

0:26:43 > 0:26:47I felt really proud of him. To go from workingmen's clubs and go,

0:26:47 > 0:26:49"These people aren't listening to my skill"

0:26:49 > 0:26:53and then going to all these posh venues with these posh people

0:26:53 > 0:26:56and fit in because of his talent, you know...

0:26:56 > 0:26:59That was like, yeah, good on you, great-great-grandpa.

0:27:01 > 0:27:04And he was going and rubbing shoulders with all these kind of

0:27:04 > 0:27:08elite types and doing it with confidence.

0:27:08 > 0:27:11It's scary, but it didn't stop him, did it?

0:27:11 > 0:27:15So, I kind of love that. I love that he's...

0:27:15 > 0:27:19He had that kind of fighting spirit in him.

0:27:24 > 0:27:29Sheridan's great-great-grandfather was only a young man in his early 30s

0:27:29 > 0:27:35when he performed in Sheffield's most prestigious concert hall in 1889.

0:27:35 > 0:27:39To find out how Benjamin followed up on this extraordinary success,

0:27:39 > 0:27:42Sheridan has returned to his home town.

0:27:44 > 0:27:46At the Sheffield Archives,

0:27:46 > 0:27:50she's meeting historian Dr Ann Featherstone.

0:27:50 > 0:27:53I think the thing about Benjamin Doubleday is,

0:27:53 > 0:27:59even though he is a virtuoso performer on the banjo,

0:27:59 > 0:28:02there are certain limitations to that.

0:28:02 > 0:28:05Performers have always been vulnerable

0:28:05 > 0:28:09and certainly in the 19th century, you know, you worked to eat,

0:28:09 > 0:28:14that was it. The idea that everybody was a star and was making loads

0:28:14 > 0:28:18and loads of money is not so cos most of the people were just about

0:28:18 > 0:28:21making enough to keep going.

0:28:21 > 0:28:23And he is an excellent banjoist.

0:28:23 > 0:28:26- But he wants to do a bit more. - Right.

0:28:26 > 0:28:31I think he has aspirations and ambition.

0:28:31 > 0:28:34Here's an advert from the trade paper

0:28:34 > 0:28:36of the stage profession of the era.

0:28:36 > 0:28:41"Wanted, to complete Mr B Doubleday's ladies choir,

0:28:41 > 0:28:43"pianiste." Pianiste?

0:28:43 > 0:28:48Pianiste. Yes, um, a lady pianist, I would say.

0:28:48 > 0:28:52"Must be brilliant soloist, RAM preferred." What...?

0:28:52 > 0:28:56- Royal Academy of Music. - Wow!- So, again, want it...

0:28:56 > 0:28:57They don't want a pub pianist.

0:28:57 > 0:29:01They want somebody who can play properly.

0:29:01 > 0:29:05"Also a solo harpist, young lady or youth, and solo violinist."

0:29:05 > 0:29:09Wow. That's not what I expected to hear.

0:29:09 > 0:29:13- That's really interesting.- Yeah. And he's got sort of two years

0:29:13 > 0:29:16engagement in expectation that this is going to take off.

0:29:16 > 0:29:18And this is before it had started,

0:29:18 > 0:29:20so he just presumed it's going to be a success.

0:29:20 > 0:29:23- He knows he's got that drive. - Yeah. Yeah, yeah.- I love that.

0:29:23 > 0:29:27Here he is again, look. This is a review.

0:29:27 > 0:29:31"The Sheffield and Rotherham Independent, February 19th, 1891.

0:29:31 > 0:29:34"The Royal American Choir."

0:29:34 > 0:29:37The Royal American Choir?

0:29:37 > 0:29:40Why have they called it that? Cos for one, they're not American,

0:29:40 > 0:29:44and Royal - my dad did say we might be royalty.

0:29:44 > 0:29:46So, even my great-great-granddad's pretending he might be.

0:29:46 > 0:29:49But they weren't, they were working class.

0:29:49 > 0:29:52So, why would they call themselves the Royal American Choir?

0:29:52 > 0:29:56- It's that exoticism, isn't it? It's a tag.- Oh, is it?

0:29:56 > 0:30:00What, to get people to sound slightly more upmarket than you are.

0:30:00 > 0:30:05- Yeah.- Royal American Choir, and he talks like that.- Yeah.

0:30:05 > 0:30:08At least I can tell me dad we've got a bit of royalty in us,

0:30:08 > 0:30:12but it's not real. The word "royal", at least!

0:30:13 > 0:30:16"There is not much doubt that the choir will become popular,

0:30:16 > 0:30:19"the enthusiastic applause which greeted the efforts of

0:30:19 > 0:30:23"each performer being an encouraging augury of future success."

0:30:23 > 0:30:26- Yeah. Yeah, yeah.- So, they're flying already.- Well, yes.

0:30:26 > 0:30:29"Mr B Doubleday gave a banjo solo in a way which showed

0:30:29 > 0:30:32"that he was master of the instrument.

0:30:32 > 0:30:35"As if the programme did not contain variety enough,

0:30:35 > 0:30:39"the entertainment concluded with a sketch."

0:30:41 > 0:30:45With his show, Benjamin Doubleday was hoping to profit

0:30:45 > 0:30:48from a boom in entertainment.

0:30:48 > 0:30:52As the wage earning populations of industrial cities expanded

0:30:52 > 0:30:54in the late 19th century,

0:30:54 > 0:30:57entrepreneurs created purpose-built music halls

0:30:57 > 0:30:59to keep them entertained.

0:31:01 > 0:31:04And to attract the growing middle classes -

0:31:04 > 0:31:08keen to maintain respectability - proprietors began to offer

0:31:08 > 0:31:12a less bawdy version of music hall entertainment billed as variety.

0:31:15 > 0:31:19It was this audience that Benjamin Doubleday was chasing.

0:31:21 > 0:31:25I get a sense of Benjamin's ambition

0:31:25 > 0:31:29to be an impresario, if you like.

0:31:29 > 0:31:35To take, er, music out to the masses and make some money.

0:31:35 > 0:31:38That's really interesting. And then at the end it says:

0:31:38 > 0:31:40"Doors open at seven to commence at eight."

0:31:42 > 0:31:44Mmm, what's that tiny bit?

0:31:44 > 0:31:46Um, one shilling.

0:31:46 > 0:31:48Sixpence..

0:31:48 > 0:31:50- And threepence. - And threepence.- Yeah.

0:31:50 > 0:31:53Now, was that cheap or was that quite expensive?

0:31:53 > 0:31:55Well, that's quite expensive.

0:31:55 > 0:31:58I mean, that's not a cheap evening out. And a shilling

0:31:58 > 0:32:02- is what you'd expect to pay for a good seat in the theatre.- Really?

0:32:02 > 0:32:05Yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's refinement. You don't want any riff-raff.

0:32:05 > 0:32:10It's more than you would expect to pay in a pub music hall.

0:32:10 > 0:32:14We're moving now to Sangers' Circus.

0:32:14 > 0:32:18"Sangers' Circus tonight. B Doubleday's American Choir."

0:32:18 > 0:32:20It could seat up to 2,000 people there

0:32:20 > 0:32:23- and he was going to do a month in Sheffield.- A month in Sheffield.

0:32:23 > 0:32:25- It's a massive venue... - Yeah.- ..for a whole month.

0:32:25 > 0:32:28Will he have packed that out every night?

0:32:28 > 0:32:31Well, we can see what's happening here.

0:32:31 > 0:32:34Because if we look here - so this is April 15th...

0:32:34 > 0:32:37- Halfway through the run. - Halfway through the run.

0:32:37 > 0:32:40"Doubleday's American Choir is not attracting as large audiences

0:32:40 > 0:32:43"to Sangers' Circus as might be expected."

0:32:43 > 0:32:46- First bad review I've read. - Mm.

0:32:46 > 0:32:49"The entertainment provided is certainly above the average -

0:32:49 > 0:32:54"the singing is good, there are one or two clever recitations

0:32:54 > 0:32:58"and the programme finishes up with a laughable sketch."

0:32:58 > 0:33:01So, they were... That's really sad.

0:33:01 > 0:33:03- They're still saying they're brilliant.- Yeah.

0:33:03 > 0:33:06- They just weren't getting the crowds in now.- Yeah.

0:33:06 > 0:33:10But I think what you've got to do is look at what else was going on.

0:33:10 > 0:33:15So, if you look at the reviews and also the ads at the same time.

0:33:15 > 0:33:18So, here's Sanger, yeah, but look, there's...

0:33:18 > 0:33:22There's something going on at the Theatre Royal,

0:33:22 > 0:33:25there's something going on at the Alexandra,

0:33:25 > 0:33:27there's something going on at the Albert Hall.

0:33:27 > 0:33:30- A full orchestra and ballet in Romeo and Juliet.- Yeah.

0:33:30 > 0:33:32So they were up against a lot of things.

0:33:32 > 0:33:34Lots and lots of competition, yeah.

0:33:34 > 0:33:38Even the Sheffield Industrial Expedition has got:

0:33:38 > 0:33:41"the celebrated Anglo Viennese Ladies Orchestra."

0:33:41 > 0:33:43So there's an added attraction.

0:33:43 > 0:33:45Right.

0:33:45 > 0:33:48- So, it's a bit like competition became stiff then?- I think so.

0:33:48 > 0:33:52And if you look where it is, there are other entertainment venues.

0:33:52 > 0:33:54- Venues, yeah. - Cambridge Hall.

0:33:54 > 0:33:59- Past up there, you'll see there's a music hall.- Grand Circus.

0:33:59 > 0:34:01- Music hall there. - Music hall.

0:34:01 > 0:34:04- Over here is the Albert Hall. - Wow!

0:34:04 > 0:34:08Public houses - all public houses would have singing...

0:34:08 > 0:34:10and a lot of it would be free.

0:34:10 > 0:34:13To pack out a 2,000 seater, with all that competition's...

0:34:13 > 0:34:14Yeah.

0:34:14 > 0:34:17- ..pretty...- Yeah.- ..tough going? - Very tough. Very tough.

0:34:17 > 0:34:19Cos if you look on here...

0:34:19 > 0:34:21"Sangers' Circus: Come and hear

0:34:21 > 0:34:24"B Doubleday's American Choir tonight at 7.30.

0:34:24 > 0:34:26"Give what you please."

0:34:26 > 0:34:28- Yeah. - Pay anything now.

0:34:28 > 0:34:31- Anything, yeah.- So, they're desperate now.- I think so.

0:34:31 > 0:34:34He's gone from charging to,

0:34:34 > 0:34:36say, to asking for donations.

0:34:36 > 0:34:39- God, it's cut throat. It's like it is nowadays.- Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

0:34:39 > 0:34:43But that's so devastating because he's all the way along he's grafted

0:34:43 > 0:34:45and grafted and grafted, and he's had great reviews,

0:34:45 > 0:34:49he did with banjo, and he took a risk putting on this massive show.

0:34:49 > 0:34:53But then he just came up against the competition and made a bad decision.

0:34:53 > 0:34:56That could actually send things disastrously wrong in the way

0:34:56 > 0:35:00that you wouldn't be able to recover from if you weren't careful.

0:35:00 > 0:35:04But luckily, I mean, he can teach, he can play himself.

0:35:04 > 0:35:07It's recoverable from, but this looks like a body blow.

0:35:13 > 0:35:16It was amazing to just find out about, you know, that

0:35:16 > 0:35:18my great-grandfather went from banjo playing to suddenly

0:35:18 > 0:35:22running this troupe. And then he went for the circus venue

0:35:22 > 0:35:23and it didn't work.

0:35:23 > 0:35:26I'm a bit nervous about what's to come now

0:35:26 > 0:35:29and I hope it's not anything sad.

0:35:29 > 0:35:32Cos it's been so fun, you know, and I really admire him

0:35:32 > 0:35:34and I still will whatever happens

0:35:34 > 0:35:39but I hope it's not anything that's going to break my heart.

0:36:02 > 0:36:04At Sheffield's local history library,

0:36:04 > 0:36:08Sheridan hopes archivist Tim Knebel can help her find out what happened

0:36:08 > 0:36:11to her great-great-grandfather next.

0:36:11 > 0:36:13I know that my great-great-grandfather,

0:36:13 > 0:36:15Benjamin Doubleday,

0:36:15 > 0:36:19he took a blow career-wise and financially in 1891.

0:36:19 > 0:36:22And I want to know what happens after that,

0:36:22 > 0:36:23- I'm hoping it's good news.- OK.

0:36:23 > 0:36:26Right, well, to find out what he was doing and where he was living

0:36:26 > 0:36:29at the time, we could have a look at local trade directories.

0:36:29 > 0:36:32- So, it was 1891 you said, wasn't it? - Yes.

0:36:32 > 0:36:35Unfortunately, we don't have one for 1892.

0:36:35 > 0:36:39- The next available one we have is 1893.- OK...

0:36:39 > 0:36:42So, in these directories there should be the alphabetical list

0:36:42 > 0:36:45of names of people living in Sheffield at the time.

0:36:45 > 0:36:47And it tells you what jobs they were doing.

0:36:47 > 0:36:50- If you want to find the... - Doubleday.- ..D section.

0:36:51 > 0:36:56Come on, where are you, great-great-grandpappa?

0:36:56 > 0:36:57There.

0:36:57 > 0:37:01"Doubleday, Benjamin. Vict." What's "vict" mean?

0:37:01 > 0:37:04That's an abbreviation for victualler. So, a publican.

0:37:04 > 0:37:08- Basically a pub landlord. - A pub landlord?!

0:37:08 > 0:37:12That's right. And it gives the name of his pub just next to it.

0:37:12 > 0:37:15- The Woodman. Woodman. - Yeah. The Woodman Inn.

0:37:15 > 0:37:17South Street, Moor.

0:37:17 > 0:37:20Unfortunately, the Woodman Inn is no longer still standing.

0:37:20 > 0:37:24It was demolished in 1928, but we do have a couple of pictures of it

0:37:24 > 0:37:26if you'd like to see what it looked like.

0:37:26 > 0:37:28Yeah. Yeah, I'd love to. Thank you.

0:37:30 > 0:37:32I don't know what that means.

0:37:32 > 0:37:36- OK. So here are the pictures. - OK. Yeah.

0:37:36 > 0:37:40- So, firstly there's a... - Wow!- ..photograph here.

0:37:40 > 0:37:44Now, this photograph was taken probably turn of the 20th century

0:37:44 > 0:37:48when they were laying the tram tracks in Sheffield.

0:37:48 > 0:37:49This is the Moor area.

0:37:49 > 0:37:52And on the left there, that is the Woodman Inn.

0:37:52 > 0:37:56- That's his pub. - Yeah, that's his pub.- Wow!

0:37:56 > 0:37:59And there were lots of back-to-back houses again in that area,

0:37:59 > 0:38:01so it was very crowded.

0:38:01 > 0:38:04Obviously the picture, you can only just see a section of it there,

0:38:04 > 0:38:06- but...- Yeah.- ..in this old sketchbook,

0:38:06 > 0:38:09which was compiled in the early 1900s,

0:38:09 > 0:38:13there was a clearer sketch of the Woodman, a really nice sketch there.

0:38:13 > 0:38:16- So, you can see the front. - The full thing.- Yeah.

0:38:16 > 0:38:19- It's a lovely pub, isn't it? - It is, yeah.

0:38:19 > 0:38:23It's quite a change from doing 2,000 seater venues to running a pub.

0:38:23 > 0:38:25Yeah, you wonder if he carried on the music alongside

0:38:25 > 0:38:28- when he went in the pub. - I really hope he did, Tim.- Yeah.

0:38:33 > 0:38:38It is quite a tough old industry, you know,

0:38:38 > 0:38:43and it's good to take risks like he did, which I've always done that.

0:38:43 > 0:38:46But at the same time, this has confirmed that

0:38:46 > 0:38:48one wrong choice and it could end.

0:38:52 > 0:38:56Sheridan wants to know if in his late 30s, running a pub,

0:38:56 > 0:38:58and with four children to provide for,

0:38:58 > 0:39:03her great-great-grandfather's banjo playing days were over.

0:39:03 > 0:39:08She's meeting an expert on Sheffield history, Dr Helen Smith.

0:39:09 > 0:39:13We have got some information about his life with the pub.

0:39:13 > 0:39:16This is from the Sheffield Evening Telegraph.

0:39:16 > 0:39:20- This was from the 7th February, 1894.- Oh, my goodness!

0:39:20 > 0:39:24"About half past five o'clock this morning, Mr and Mrs Doubleday

0:39:24 > 0:39:28"of the Woodman Inn, South Street, were awakened by a loud crash.

0:39:28 > 0:39:32"Their alarm was heightened by the screaming of the children

0:39:32 > 0:39:34"who occupied an adjoining room.

0:39:34 > 0:39:37"It was found that a large chimney stack had fallen through the roof,

0:39:37 > 0:39:41"part into the bedroom and part into the bar.

0:39:41 > 0:39:45"Mr Doubleday's loss is estimated at £50."

0:39:45 > 0:39:48Which is the equivalent of £3,000 in today's money.

0:39:48 > 0:39:52- So, it's quite a significant amount of money that he actually lost.- OK.

0:39:52 > 0:39:54We have another article from the same newspaper,

0:39:54 > 0:39:57and this is from a year later.

0:39:57 > 0:40:00"Fire on Sheffield Moor.

0:40:00 > 0:40:03"Shortly before four o'clock this morning a fire broke out

0:40:03 > 0:40:07"on the premises of Mr Doubleday, Woodman Inn, Sheffield, Moor."

0:40:09 > 0:40:11- Oh, my God! - Yeah.

0:40:11 > 0:40:13So, this is just like it was his pub was kind of cursed.

0:40:13 > 0:40:16It seems like that in a way, doesn't it? We have another spell

0:40:16 > 0:40:19of bad luck as well. This is July 5th, 1895.

0:40:19 > 0:40:24- So, this is a few months after this fire.- Not another fire.

0:40:24 > 0:40:26SHE GASPS

0:40:26 > 0:40:30"About half past one this morning Police Constable Whitehouse,

0:40:30 > 0:40:34"perceiving that the seat of the outbreak was in the upper storey,

0:40:34 > 0:40:37"Whitehouse went upstairs meeting on his way

0:40:37 > 0:40:42"Benjamin Doubleday, the landlord, who appeared in a dazed condition."

0:40:43 > 0:40:45SHE EXHALES

0:40:45 > 0:40:46"In what..."

0:40:50 > 0:40:51SHE SNIFFS

0:40:53 > 0:40:55Sorry.

0:40:55 > 0:40:57No, no, take your time.

0:40:57 > 0:41:01"There was scarcely any furniture in any of the rooms.

0:41:01 > 0:41:04"Doubleday was the only person on the premises.

0:41:04 > 0:41:06"He was leaving the house this week having removed

0:41:06 > 0:41:09"most of his belongings."

0:41:09 > 0:41:10So, there was nobody there?

0:41:10 > 0:41:13- There's no family there, no belongings there.- No.

0:41:13 > 0:41:15I don't understand now.

0:41:15 > 0:41:18I'm really confused as to why...that would happen?

0:41:18 > 0:41:23And why there'd be two fires within a few months, you know?

0:41:23 > 0:41:26- Yeah. It seems unlikely, doesn't it, that...- Strange.

0:41:26 > 0:41:28- ..that would happen. - Yeah.

0:41:28 > 0:41:32But we have got another article from the 26th November that gives us

0:41:32 > 0:41:35a lot more information about that situation.

0:41:35 > 0:41:37I'm not sure I want to read it.

0:41:40 > 0:41:44Yeah, I had a bad feeling in my tummy this might be it.

0:41:45 > 0:41:48"Serious Charge Against An Ex-Publican.

0:41:52 > 0:41:54"The fire at the Woodman Inn.

0:41:56 > 0:41:59"At the Sheffield City Police Court this morning..."

0:42:03 > 0:42:05SHE EXHALES

0:42:05 > 0:42:07SHE SNIFFS

0:42:07 > 0:42:10Oh! God, I did not see any of this coming.

0:42:10 > 0:42:12- Is this quite a shock then for you? - A real shock.

0:42:12 > 0:42:14Cos like you say, it's been such a positive story.

0:42:14 > 0:42:17- Yeah. It's all been... - And he'd done so well.

0:42:17 > 0:42:19All been about theatre and, you know,

0:42:19 > 0:42:23what an incredible talented man he was, you know, and I've been

0:42:23 > 0:42:27learning the banjo and I can see what a difficult instrument it is,

0:42:27 > 0:42:31and he taught himself, to bring up his kids and everything he's done

0:42:31 > 0:42:34for his family, that this, now it just seems like a different person.

0:42:34 > 0:42:37- Yeah. - Sorry.

0:42:38 > 0:42:41"A Serious Charge Against An Ex-Publican.

0:42:44 > 0:42:48"At the Sheffield City Police Court this morning before the stipendiary

0:42:48 > 0:42:53"magistrate, Benjamin Doubleday was charged with attempted arson.

0:42:53 > 0:42:57"The charge against Doubleday was that on the 5th July, 1895,

0:42:57 > 0:43:00"he did set fire to the Woodman Inn, South Street, Moor,

0:43:00 > 0:43:04"with intent thereby to defraud the Royal Insurance Company.

0:43:06 > 0:43:10"About one o'clock on the morning of Friday, the 5th July,

0:43:10 > 0:43:14"Police Constable Whitehouse was near the Woodman Inn

0:43:14 > 0:43:18"when he detected a strong smell of fire.

0:43:18 > 0:43:22"He found the gas burning in every room downstairs.

0:43:22 > 0:43:24"On the landing at the top of the stairs

0:43:24 > 0:43:29"he saw the prisoner who had a box of matches in his hand.

0:43:31 > 0:43:34"He was fully dressed

0:43:34 > 0:43:37"and seemed worse for drink."

0:43:37 > 0:43:39- Yeah. - He was drunk.

0:43:40 > 0:43:43It was just an insurance scam, was it? Or was he just...

0:43:43 > 0:43:45I mean, where's the family?

0:43:45 > 0:43:49Had he told them to get out while he sets fire to the place to get money?

0:43:49 > 0:43:51What is it?

0:43:51 > 0:43:55Well we've got information, um, a little bit later on in the article

0:43:55 > 0:43:58as well, that Sarah Jane has actually left him

0:43:58 > 0:44:00- and taken the children.- Oh.

0:44:00 > 0:44:03And it looks like she's taken the furniture,

0:44:03 > 0:44:06so he's on his own in the pub.

0:44:06 > 0:44:09So, it might not have been anything to do with trying to get

0:44:09 > 0:44:12insurance money. And if his music career had flopped -

0:44:12 > 0:44:16well, you know, hate saying the world flopped about him now -

0:44:16 > 0:44:19but if his music career hadn't gone the way he wanted it to after

0:44:19 > 0:44:23everything he strived to do, and it was all for the sake of his family,

0:44:23 > 0:44:26and then his family left him, he's obviously going to be depressed.

0:44:26 > 0:44:30This last sentence really on this article is key to just give us

0:44:30 > 0:44:34a little bit of an insight into how he was feeling at that time.

0:44:34 > 0:44:37"Mr Howe applied for bail but prisoner said

0:44:37 > 0:44:41- "he did not care for bail and he was remanded in custody."- Yeah.

0:44:41 > 0:44:44- He didn't even want bail. - No. So to me that...

0:44:44 > 0:44:47- He's depressed, he's down. - ..quite important, isn't it?- Yeah.

0:44:47 > 0:44:49- That's heartbreaking.- Yeah.

0:44:49 > 0:44:54A few weeks later we actually get to see what happened to Benjamin.

0:44:54 > 0:44:58If I can just draw your attention to the last line.

0:44:58 > 0:45:02- "The prisoner was found not guilty and discharged."- Yeah.

0:45:02 > 0:45:05Yeah, Benjamin is found not guilty and he's discharged and that's it.

0:45:05 > 0:45:08I want to hug you.

0:45:08 > 0:45:10That was such the information I was hoping for.

0:45:12 > 0:45:14Oh!

0:45:18 > 0:45:22'I didn't expect such a reaction. I didn't expect myself to just feel

0:45:22 > 0:45:25'so immediately attached to my great-great-grandfather,

0:45:25 > 0:45:28'but it's real life and it's what people have gone through.

0:45:28 > 0:45:30'It's the reason I'm here.'

0:45:30 > 0:45:32That's good. I might be able to play the...

0:45:32 > 0:45:35That shouldn't catch the other string, should it?

0:45:42 > 0:45:47I just want to know what happened after the fire and being in prison.

0:45:47 > 0:45:49What happened to Benjamin?

0:45:49 > 0:45:52And what happened to Sarah Jane and all the rest of them?

0:45:54 > 0:45:56There's so many unanswered questions

0:45:56 > 0:46:01and a lot of kind of loose ends that need tying up.

0:46:07 > 0:46:10Sheridan's learned from genealogist Eileen of a second cousin

0:46:10 > 0:46:13who's been researching their shared family history.

0:46:17 > 0:46:22'I'm hoping it's going to be nice and not quite so heartbreaking.'

0:46:23 > 0:46:25- Hello. - Hello.

0:46:25 > 0:46:27- Hi. - Hi.

0:46:27 > 0:46:30Louisa Gingell's also a great-great-granddaughter

0:46:30 > 0:46:32of Benjamin Doubleday.

0:46:32 > 0:46:34Nice to meet you.

0:46:35 > 0:46:38- Oh, family! - I know.

0:46:38 > 0:46:40- How are you?- Very well. How are you? - I'm good.

0:46:40 > 0:46:43- Thank you for coming to see me. - No, it's an absolute pleasure.

0:46:43 > 0:46:47- Oh, I've got so much to talk to you about.- I know.

0:46:47 > 0:46:49Oh, shall I sit down here with you?

0:46:50 > 0:46:55Ah, I'm quite emotional.

0:46:55 > 0:46:57- I know. It is, isn't it? - Yeah.- Yes.

0:46:57 > 0:46:59I've got so much I want to ask you.

0:46:59 > 0:47:04There's so many kind of question marks now over what...

0:47:04 > 0:47:07happened around that time and where did Sarah Jane and the kids go?

0:47:07 > 0:47:10Right. Well, I can tell you what happened to Sarah Jane.

0:47:10 > 0:47:13This is the Census from 1901.

0:47:13 > 0:47:19- So, that's what, five or six years after they left the pub...- Right.

0:47:19 > 0:47:22..in Sheffield. And she's gone to Birmingham.

0:47:23 > 0:47:25She's in Birmingham?

0:47:25 > 0:47:28Yes. If you have a look. Here she is.

0:47:28 > 0:47:31And she's only got two of the children with her.

0:47:31 > 0:47:33SHE GASPS

0:47:33 > 0:47:36What, so which children has she got with her?

0:47:36 > 0:47:39She's got William, so our great-grandfather,

0:47:39 > 0:47:41and their youngest sister, Caroline.

0:47:41 > 0:47:44Wow. So what happened to May and Harriet?

0:47:44 > 0:47:47They're actually in Sheffield, down here.

0:47:48 > 0:47:52"Benjamin Doubleday, May and Harriet."

0:47:52 > 0:47:57- Yes, they're all living together. - They stayed with Benjamin?- Yes.

0:47:57 > 0:47:58Wow! My goodness!

0:47:58 > 0:48:03Mm. So, there's Benjamin, listed as a music teacher.

0:48:03 > 0:48:06So, after his arrest and after everything else

0:48:06 > 0:48:08and being found not guilty, he's still teaching music?

0:48:08 > 0:48:12- Yes, he's teaching music. - Oh, brilliant!

0:48:12 > 0:48:15- And if you look underneath... - Yeah.

0:48:15 > 0:48:19..his two daughters, May is listed as a professional pianist

0:48:19 > 0:48:22and Harriet, who's also called Ettie,

0:48:22 > 0:48:25is listed as a professional vocalist.

0:48:27 > 0:48:29So, Harriet and May stayed with him

0:48:29 > 0:48:31and they were all just still doing music.

0:48:31 > 0:48:34- Can I show you a picture? - Yes. Yes.

0:48:36 > 0:48:39Have you ever seen this picture?

0:48:44 > 0:48:48- Is that them? - It's them, yeah. Yes.

0:48:48 > 0:48:50So, this is May.

0:48:50 > 0:48:53- Yeah. - And this is Ettie.

0:48:53 > 0:48:57She's Harriet, but known in the family as Ettie.

0:48:57 > 0:49:00Ettie. So they did keep doing music?

0:49:00 > 0:49:02Yes, they did.

0:49:02 > 0:49:07And you know, not just here, but if you have a look here...

0:49:07 > 0:49:11there's a play bill which shows you they're performing in...

0:49:11 > 0:49:16The vaudeville circuit, wow. In London, Bradford, Leeds...

0:49:16 > 0:49:21- And that's from the... - The Palace, West Hartlepool. Wow!

0:49:21 > 0:49:23- And if you have a look inside... - My goodness, look how old that is.

0:49:23 > 0:49:26How have you found all this? The Darrell Trio!

0:49:26 > 0:49:30- That's what my dad said they were called, the Darrell Trio.- Yes.

0:49:30 > 0:49:35- Wow! Oh, gosh, it's all kind of coming together.- Yes.- Finally.

0:49:35 > 0:49:38And, here's some of their publicity.

0:49:38 > 0:49:41Gosh, look.

0:49:41 > 0:49:43Father and two girls.

0:49:43 > 0:49:45Wow!

0:49:45 > 0:49:48"The world's greatest lady banjoist."

0:49:48 > 0:49:50- And that's May Fanny. That's May?- Yes.

0:49:50 > 0:49:53And Darrell. Where would the name Darrell come from?

0:49:53 > 0:49:56- I really don't know. - But they would have changed it?

0:49:56 > 0:50:02After all the notoriety, maybe they didn't want to remind people

0:50:02 > 0:50:04that they were associated with that.

0:50:04 > 0:50:08Oh, gosh, what a relief that it didn't knock him completely

0:50:08 > 0:50:11- and he got back on the banjo, shall we say.- Yes.

0:50:11 > 0:50:15- And there's May with Benjamin. - With Benjamin.

0:50:15 > 0:50:18- Oh, what a beautiful picture, the two of them there.- Yes.

0:50:18 > 0:50:22- I feel like that's like me and me dad - it's so weird.- Yeah.

0:50:23 > 0:50:26- Oh, gosh, how amazing. - Yes.

0:50:26 > 0:50:30But unfortunately, all of this didn't last for very much longer.

0:50:30 > 0:50:33- And, um... - Oh, no.

0:50:33 > 0:50:35I've got something now to show you.

0:50:35 > 0:50:37It's a death certificate.

0:50:39 > 0:50:43"Benjamin Doubleday. Teacher of music

0:50:43 > 0:50:45- "age..."- 50.

0:50:45 > 0:50:47- .."50" 50?! - Mm.

0:50:49 > 0:50:51"Cause of death..."

0:50:51 > 0:50:54- That's heart disease. - Heart disease.- Yes.

0:50:54 > 0:50:56- 50 years of age. - Yes.

0:50:57 > 0:50:59Oh, no.

0:51:01 > 0:51:06Did it say where or what caused it? Just, just that's just...

0:51:06 > 0:51:08There is a harder, more difficult story

0:51:08 > 0:51:11that was passed down through the family,

0:51:11 > 0:51:15that my grandmother repeated to me, was that he always had a problem

0:51:15 > 0:51:19with alcohol and that, um, when he died

0:51:19 > 0:51:23he actually collapsed and was drunk.

0:51:23 > 0:51:26Whatever his problems with drink,

0:51:26 > 0:51:29he was very highly respected.

0:51:29 > 0:51:32And I've got here a transcription of an obituary

0:51:32 > 0:51:35that was written about him when he died.

0:51:35 > 0:51:40"We regret to announce the death of Mr B Doubleday of Sheffield,

0:51:40 > 0:51:44"the well-known teacher of the banjo, mandolin and guitar.

0:51:44 > 0:51:47"He was professionally known by the name of Darrell,

0:51:47 > 0:51:53"the Darrell Trio including himself and his two clever daughters,

0:51:53 > 0:51:57"Miss May Darrell, being an exceptionally fine banjo player.

0:51:57 > 0:52:01"Mr Doubleday's death removes one from the ranks of banjo,

0:52:01 > 0:52:04"mandolin and guitar devotees,

0:52:04 > 0:52:09"and who was at all times a thorough teacher and gifted artist.

0:52:09 > 0:52:12"He will be much missed by many friends in the profession

0:52:12 > 0:52:13"who mourn his loss."

0:52:13 > 0:52:15SHE INHALES

0:52:15 > 0:52:19- "Banjo World, May 1907." - Yes.

0:52:19 > 0:52:22What a nice thing to be said about him really, though, isn't it?

0:52:22 > 0:52:28- Yes, yes.- Well respected and highly skilled artist that he was.

0:52:28 > 0:52:30Well, that's beautiful to keep, isn't it?

0:52:30 > 0:52:35- Yes. I think it's best to remember him like that.- Definitely.

0:52:35 > 0:52:37Wow!

0:53:35 > 0:53:37Aye up, daddy.

0:53:37 > 0:53:39Hello, baby.

0:53:39 > 0:53:42Oh, you look lovely. What you got on your back?

0:53:42 > 0:53:44- What's that? - Banjo.

0:53:44 > 0:53:47- I don't know shape... - It's a banjo.

0:53:47 > 0:53:50- I'll explain it all. I'll explain it all.- You look lovely.

0:53:50 > 0:53:53- How are you? Mm.- I love you. - You all right?- Yeah.- Hello, Daddy.

0:53:53 > 0:53:56- We've missed you. - Oh, I love you so much.

0:53:56 > 0:54:00- I can't wait to tell you everything. - Oh! I can't wait to hear it.

0:54:00 > 0:54:02- Oh, I've got the most amazing story to tell you.- Come on in.

0:54:02 > 0:54:04Oh, good girl, come on in.

0:54:05 > 0:54:08Remember you showed me the picture that you sent me

0:54:08 > 0:54:12- off on my journey with? That's Benjamin.- That's Benjamin.

0:54:12 > 0:54:15- And that's his daughters... - Oh, right.

0:54:15 > 0:54:18- ..Ettie, and that's May. - Oh, that's May?

0:54:18 > 0:54:21Yeah, that's May, that's Ettie. And that's Benjamin Doubleday.

0:54:21 > 0:54:23- And they're the Darrell Trio. - Right.

0:54:23 > 0:54:25Benjamin taught himself the banjo.

0:54:25 > 0:54:28- You know like you taught yourself guitar and everything else?- Yeah.

0:54:28 > 0:54:30Benjamin taught himself over those years

0:54:30 > 0:54:33and he became, like, incredible on it.

0:54:33 > 0:54:36Like, he started gigging around Sheffield.

0:54:36 > 0:54:40- But how mad that they were an act together like we were.- Yeah.

0:54:40 > 0:54:42And also that Sarah Jane played with him.

0:54:42 > 0:54:45- This is this is history repeating itself, innit?- Completely.

0:54:45 > 0:54:47But without us realising it and you said

0:54:47 > 0:54:49when you heard that music, that country music,

0:54:49 > 0:54:53which is banjo based, isn't it, really, bluegrass and all that.

0:54:53 > 0:54:56Yeah, I loved it, you know? I fell in love with the sound.

0:54:56 > 0:54:58So, that all makes sense now, don't it, that it's come from, like,

0:54:58 > 0:55:03- this over a century ago without us even realising.- That's fantastic.

0:55:03 > 0:55:06I've got more pictures here, look. That's Benjamin Doubleday.

0:55:06 > 0:55:08- And that's May. - Yeah.

0:55:08 > 0:55:10And this, I think, looks like me and you.

0:55:10 > 0:55:13- I mean, it's a lot sterner version of me and thee but...- Yeah, yeah.

0:55:13 > 0:55:16- Oh, yeah. - Awww.

0:55:16 > 0:55:18I'm getting a bit emotional myself.

0:55:18 > 0:55:20Oh, don't! You never get emotional.

0:55:20 > 0:55:23I know I've never met him, but I've got a picture of him in my mind now

0:55:23 > 0:55:26- when you're talking about him.- Yeah, cos he's your great-grandfather,

0:55:26 > 0:55:29and you imagine him probably looking like your grandfather.

0:55:29 > 0:55:32- Cos I had an Uncle Ben and I imagine he'd look something like him.- Yeah.

0:55:32 > 0:55:34But I reckon me and you should recreate that pose,

0:55:34 > 0:55:37- because I've bought a banjo. - Aye, good.- Have you?

0:55:37 > 0:55:40- I have been learning. - Have you?- Have you?

0:55:40 > 0:55:43- Look. - What's that?

0:55:43 > 0:55:45I've been learning a little song.

0:55:45 > 0:55:47I've learnt Home Sweet Home on the banjo.

0:55:47 > 0:55:50But really, like, a novice, so you can teach me from here on in.

0:55:50 > 0:55:54- Oh, well done.- Shall I play you it? - Oh, you're going to play it now?

0:55:54 > 0:55:57- It won't be very good, but I'm going to have a go.- It'll be great.

0:55:59 > 0:56:02# Mid pleasures and palaces

0:56:02 > 0:56:06# Wherever we may roam

0:56:06 > 0:56:10# Be it ever so humble

0:56:10 > 0:56:14# There's no place like home

0:56:14 > 0:56:18# There's no place like home

0:56:18 > 0:56:22# There's no place like home

0:56:22 > 0:56:27# There's no place like home

0:56:27 > 0:56:31# There's no place like home. #

0:56:31 > 0:56:34- Well done! - That was terrible!

0:56:34 > 0:56:38- No, no, well done. - I'm so proud of you! Oh, look at me!

0:56:38 > 0:56:40- That were great. - It's not very good though, is it?

0:56:40 > 0:56:43And you're playing the proper chords, you're playing banjo chords.

0:56:43 > 0:56:47- Am I?- Yeah.- But what I'd like to learn to do is do that.

0:56:47 > 0:56:50- You know, like you do it. - Ah, finger-picking, yeah.

0:56:50 > 0:56:52- Four finger roll, yeah. - I bust me finger.

0:56:52 > 0:56:54There's little gadgets - finger picks.

0:56:54 > 0:56:56I started practising it but I can't do it.

0:56:58 > 0:57:01BANJO MUSIC CONTINUES

0:57:16 > 0:57:19This is always what I've wanted to do for my dad,

0:57:19 > 0:57:21to kind of give something back to him.

0:57:24 > 0:57:27And I have my family to thank for everything now, I realise.

0:57:27 > 0:57:29You know, growing up as a kid, singing with them,

0:57:29 > 0:57:32and getting that bug from them, and the gene passed down

0:57:32 > 0:57:35from my great-great-grandfather, Benjamin Doubleday.

0:57:35 > 0:57:37I just wish I could have met him.

0:57:40 > 0:57:42I now want to learn to play instruments

0:57:42 > 0:57:45and go the country music route that my mum and dad have a bit.

0:57:45 > 0:57:49And maybe...have a baby of my own.

0:57:49 > 0:57:51I might be feeling a little bit broody right now.

0:57:51 > 0:57:54But don't tell anyone cos you'll ruin my street cred!

0:57:54 > 0:57:56SHE LAUGHS

0:57:56 > 0:57:58SONG: "Romany Cowboy"

0:57:58 > 0:58:01# With kind and gentle eyes

0:58:01 > 0:58:05# Come home with me Romany Cowboy

0:58:05 > 0:58:08# I'll keep you warm tonight

0:58:08 > 0:58:12# Be alone with me Romany cowboy

0:58:12 > 0:58:17# And everything'll be all right

0:58:17 > 0:58:24# Everything'll be all right. #

0:58:24 > 0:58:27CHEERING AND APPLAUSE

0:58:31 > 0:58:34- Well done, babe. - I love you, Daddy.- Well done.