0:00:02 > 0:00:03'I am Antonio Carluccio.'
0:00:03 > 0:00:05Wonderful!
0:00:05 > 0:00:08'Food is my religion.'
0:00:08 > 0:00:09'I am Gennaro Contaldo.
0:00:09 > 0:00:13'I think food is a gift from God.'
0:00:14 > 0:00:16Give us a kiss! Give us a kiss!
0:00:16 > 0:00:18'We are an old pair of friends.
0:00:18 > 0:00:20'Gennaro is a typical southerner.
0:00:20 > 0:00:22'He is very religious.'
0:00:22 > 0:00:25I'm a fanatic, maybe, OK.
0:00:25 > 0:00:28'But one thing I know, I do believe in Him.
0:00:28 > 0:00:31'I've never seen Antonio inside a church.'
0:00:31 > 0:00:37'It's not just me. They say nowadays only a third of Italians go to Mass.
0:00:37 > 0:00:41'So, here we are, one Doubting Thomas and one true believer,
0:00:41 > 0:00:45'trying to find out if Italians today are more like me...'
0:00:47 > 0:00:48Delightful.
0:00:48 > 0:00:50'..or like him.'
0:00:50 > 0:00:53'And if religious food is still as good.'
0:00:53 > 0:00:57'We are going on a pilgrimage to meet Gennaro's special saint,
0:00:57 > 0:01:00'a man who could fly and had holes in his hands.'
0:01:00 > 0:01:02It is just unbelievable!
0:01:02 > 0:01:06'And we'll see what Italians eat on the Day of the Dead...'
0:01:07 > 0:01:11'..when all the guests are ghosts and ghouls.'
0:01:11 > 0:01:13All the souls rise from death at 7:00.
0:01:13 > 0:01:17'We are looking for the real Italy, the Italy of today.
0:01:17 > 0:01:19'And along the way, we'll be cooking!
0:01:19 > 0:01:23'And eating! Yes!'
0:01:34 > 0:01:38'For me, the most interesting thing about religion is
0:01:38 > 0:01:41'and always will be the food, of course.
0:01:41 > 0:01:46'In Italy, every town still has its own saint.
0:01:46 > 0:01:50'And even today, every saint day festival has
0:01:50 > 0:01:53'its own special cake.' Signora.
0:02:03 > 0:02:08'Wow. Two communion wafers filled with almonds, cinnamon and honey.'
0:02:08 > 0:02:10They look fantastic, Gennaro.
0:02:10 > 0:02:14If this would be a host given to me at the Communion,
0:02:14 > 0:02:16I would be every day in the church!
0:02:20 > 0:02:23- All the calendar!- 'We have come to
0:02:23 > 0:02:25'one of the most religious regions in Italy.
0:02:25 > 0:02:30'This landscape is about stories of saints and miracles.
0:02:30 > 0:02:35'And since ancient times, pilgrims have come to visit its holy shrines.
0:02:35 > 0:02:38'We are in Puglia in the south-east -
0:02:38 > 0:02:40'far, far away from the industrial north.
0:02:40 > 0:02:43'I'm taking Antonio on a pilgrimage
0:02:43 > 0:02:48'to try the food at the holy places, along an ancient path.'
0:02:48 > 0:02:50'The Via Francigena.'
0:02:50 > 0:02:54'And Gennaro's ensuring his place in Heaven by insisting
0:02:54 > 0:02:56'we go some of the way on foot.'
0:02:56 > 0:02:59Here, go, Antonio, little bit more.
0:02:59 > 0:03:04If we were proper pilgrims, we'd walk thousands of kilometres
0:03:04 > 0:03:06'and find our food as we went along.'
0:03:08 > 0:03:12- What? What is it? - Prickly pear, I don't know!- Wow!
0:03:12 > 0:03:14- Oh, prickly pear!- Wow!
0:03:14 > 0:03:16- That one is mine!- No, that is mine!
0:03:16 > 0:03:21Just brush it to remove all the little thorns.
0:03:24 > 0:03:25There you are.
0:03:25 > 0:03:29On top here, cos remember, they still have little thorns.
0:03:29 > 0:03:32That's wonderful. Look at this. Ah!
0:03:32 > 0:03:38If we were really pilgrims, you actually will forage for this fruit.
0:03:38 > 0:03:42- Because it's almost all year round you can find one of these.- Gratis.
0:03:42 > 0:03:44Unless you find a farmer that runs after you!
0:03:44 > 0:03:46- Antonio!- Yes?
0:03:46 > 0:03:48Oh, that's wonderful, Gennaro!
0:03:48 > 0:03:50I got a big one!
0:03:50 > 0:03:53So you won't starve anymore!
0:03:53 > 0:03:55I can guarantee you!
0:03:55 > 0:03:58'Pilgrims did take some food on their long journeys,
0:03:58 > 0:04:01'all preserved, dried and easy to carry.'
0:04:01 > 0:04:04Ooh! Capocollo!
0:04:04 > 0:04:06Capocollo, but this is a salami.
0:04:06 > 0:04:09- You know what it is.- Ooh, yeah!
0:04:09 > 0:04:12- This is called caciocavallo. - Let's pretend you...
0:04:12 > 0:04:17Cavallo is the horse, the cacio, the cheese, was on the horse.
0:04:17 > 0:04:21So, me as a horse and you as a donkey!
0:04:27 > 0:04:30What you got? Have you got anything you brought?
0:04:30 > 0:04:32Oh, yes. Chocolate.
0:04:32 > 0:04:34There was no chocolate in those days!
0:04:34 > 0:04:36So you can't really be the real pilgrim.
0:04:36 > 0:04:38- Ah, Gennaro! - And do you know what, Antonio?
0:04:38 > 0:04:40At least I can share, yeah?
0:04:40 > 0:04:43Don't be greedy!
0:04:43 > 0:04:47I'm not greedy! Who's greedy?!
0:04:47 > 0:04:50'You'd soon run out of food with Antonio!'
0:04:50 > 0:04:53'When pilgrims really had nothing to eat,
0:04:53 > 0:04:56'they'd head for the nearest monastery.'
0:04:56 > 0:04:59'They are famous in Italy for producing
0:04:59 > 0:05:02'delicious home-grown meat and vegetables.'
0:05:02 > 0:05:04'Actually, they were the earliest restaurants.
0:05:04 > 0:05:09'Since medieval times, hungry pilgrims could pop in for a meal.
0:05:09 > 0:05:10'And the greedy ones!'
0:05:10 > 0:05:13'This is the Santuario di San Matteo.
0:05:13 > 0:05:17'It's been feeding pilgrims since the tenth century.'
0:05:17 > 0:05:20'I imagine in the summer this field is buzzing with bees,
0:05:20 > 0:05:23'fruit, chicken, everything.'
0:05:23 > 0:05:26'It looks like the Franciscan friars are
0:05:26 > 0:05:28'still feeding passing waifs and strays.'
0:05:31 > 0:05:34'Antonio can't wait to get his paws on that food.
0:05:34 > 0:05:38'I hope he will behave himself in this holy place.'
0:05:55 > 0:05:59Buona sera. Antonio.
0:06:02 > 0:06:03Si. Si. Si.
0:06:21 > 0:06:25I quite need it! I should be free from all the bad things!
0:06:25 > 0:06:29'But what I really want to know about is the food.'
0:06:29 > 0:06:33I hear that you produce things?
0:06:37 > 0:06:38You produce it here?
0:06:40 > 0:06:42Yes, the recipe.
0:06:42 > 0:06:45And you produce it here?
0:06:45 > 0:06:47Not here. Other convents, other cloisters.
0:06:47 > 0:06:50And tell me something. Olive oil -
0:06:50 > 0:06:52you produce our own olive oil?
0:06:52 > 0:06:55No, no, no.
0:06:55 > 0:06:56'A-ha! Honey!'
0:06:56 > 0:06:58You have bees as well?
0:06:58 > 0:06:59Yes, miele.
0:06:59 > 0:07:01Yes, but you produce miele?
0:07:04 > 0:07:07- Oh, Antonio, look at all these herbs.- They are wonderful.
0:07:07 > 0:07:10- For blood pressure.- Cholesterol.
0:07:10 > 0:07:13- Cholesterol, depression.- Choose one.
0:07:13 > 0:07:15I'm going to choose one for you.
0:07:15 > 0:07:17- This one for you. - Oh, you need it too, as well.
0:07:17 > 0:07:19- No, no. Do you know what it is?- Yes.
0:07:19 > 0:07:21Dimagra.
0:07:21 > 0:07:24- Losing weight.- That will be very good for you. I'll buy it for you.
0:07:31 > 0:07:33Did you hear what he said?
0:07:33 > 0:07:35I am beautiful like this! Bah!
0:07:48 > 0:07:50Invitation is to go to the kitchen!
0:07:58 > 0:08:01'Even if they don't sell their own produce,
0:08:01 > 0:08:03'they will grow and cook wonderful things.'
0:08:05 > 0:08:07Bellissimo!
0:08:07 > 0:08:10What do you cook, usually?
0:08:17 > 0:08:22- No.- 'They don't grow anything. What is going on?'
0:08:22 > 0:08:26So, this was the allotment which used to grow all the vegetables?
0:08:50 > 0:08:54'You'd think they would have time to grow a few vegetables!
0:08:54 > 0:08:58'Suddenly it's clear why there's no time for gardening.
0:08:58 > 0:09:01'Every day, herds of religious tourists turn up
0:09:01 > 0:09:04'to touch a famous holy relic,
0:09:04 > 0:09:08'the 2,000-year-old tooth of St Matthew, the Apostle.
0:09:08 > 0:09:12'When the tour groups arrive, the friars have to drop everything.'
0:09:12 > 0:09:15'Except the tooth, of course.'
0:09:15 > 0:09:18They used to have all the produce of the earth,
0:09:18 > 0:09:23and it's not done any more. So there, I am really very disappointed.
0:09:23 > 0:09:27'Five friars looking after international coach tours.
0:09:27 > 0:09:31'It feels like the Last Supper for monastery food.'
0:09:34 > 0:09:37'I'm keen to get back to dinner in the hotel,
0:09:37 > 0:09:39'but Gennaro wants to spend a night.
0:09:39 > 0:09:44'We came here for food, and frankly he's going a little off course.'
0:09:44 > 0:09:47I told him I've been waiting for 45 years to sleep...
0:09:47 > 0:09:50- 45 years?- ..to sleep in a convent.
0:09:50 > 0:09:52- Get in!- OK.- Bye-bye!
0:09:52 > 0:09:54Sleep well!
0:09:54 > 0:09:55Buona notte. Ciao.
0:10:03 > 0:10:04Funny chap!
0:10:06 > 0:10:08Grazie, thank you very much.
0:10:08 > 0:10:09Grazie.
0:10:14 > 0:10:17Sleep well, sleep well.
0:10:17 > 0:10:19Thank you. Oh, bless them!
0:10:25 > 0:10:28'I always wanted to sleep in a convent.
0:10:28 > 0:10:31'Make me feel more in touch.
0:10:31 > 0:10:33'When I was a little boy,
0:10:33 > 0:10:35'I wished I was a friar.'
0:10:36 > 0:10:39To share the community, to believe in one thing
0:10:39 > 0:10:42and not to have so much of everything.
0:10:48 > 0:10:49WINE SPLASHES
0:10:49 > 0:10:51Good sound!
0:11:07 > 0:11:09Delightful.
0:11:09 > 0:11:11Poor Gennaro.
0:11:22 > 0:11:26'After his night in the cell, Gennaro is acting like we are
0:11:26 > 0:11:28'Mary and Joseph on the road to Bethlehem.
0:11:28 > 0:11:31'He is going completely over the top.'
0:11:31 > 0:11:33I can't get through this one, can I?
0:11:33 > 0:11:35Call him Gennaro and then we will see!
0:11:35 > 0:11:37It looks like your relation!
0:11:37 > 0:11:39Come on, Gennaro, come on!
0:11:39 > 0:11:40Oh, my God!
0:11:42 > 0:11:46'The friars told me any serious pilgrim carries a heavy rod,
0:11:46 > 0:11:49'representing the burden of his sins.
0:11:49 > 0:11:53'A little extra weight will do Gennaro no harm at all.'
0:11:53 > 0:11:59You know, we should take a stone, signifying our sins.
0:12:01 > 0:12:04The more sins you have, the bigger the stone.
0:12:04 > 0:12:06So, how many sins do you think you have done?
0:12:06 > 0:12:10- Why you want me to...? - That... Just believe me.
0:12:15 > 0:12:16Well, it's quite a weight.
0:12:16 > 0:12:18Ah.
0:12:18 > 0:12:21- This is mine.- Call him a cheat!
0:12:21 > 0:12:23- Ah, no, it's not a cheat!- It is a cheat.- I don't sin like you.
0:12:23 > 0:12:28Gennaro, if you would be a proper, proper pilgrim,
0:12:28 > 0:12:30you would have to carry this for all the rest of your journey.
0:12:30 > 0:12:32What are my sins?
0:12:32 > 0:12:34- Shall I count them all?- Yeah.
0:12:34 > 0:12:36- You are greedy, first of all.- Yeah?
0:12:36 > 0:12:39Secondly, you are storyteller.
0:12:39 > 0:12:42- Thirdly, you are just existing.- Yes.
0:12:42 > 0:12:45And I think, OK, anything goes!
0:12:47 > 0:12:49You are forgetful, as well. This is another thing.
0:12:51 > 0:12:54'Tonight, we are in a cosy pilgrim's inn.
0:12:54 > 0:12:57'Gennaro's going to make the sort of hearty stew
0:12:57 > 0:13:00'pilgrims used to eat in the monastery.'
0:13:02 > 0:13:05I'm going to cook lamb with peas. It's so delicious.
0:13:05 > 0:13:08Slowly, slowly cook. Antonio is looking at me with a face,
0:13:08 > 0:13:11to say, "When are you going to make it?"
0:13:11 > 0:13:12I'm hungry.
0:13:12 > 0:13:14He's always hungry.
0:13:14 > 0:13:19But this is... I guarantee, it is so nice. It's so holy as well.
0:13:19 > 0:13:23It isn't a traditional dish. We make it at Easter.
0:13:23 > 0:13:26It's traditional Easter, but you can have them every day.
0:13:26 > 0:13:28So, I'm going to start cutting some meat.
0:13:28 > 0:13:30This is the shoulder of lamb, you can see.
0:13:30 > 0:13:35I even left a little bit of the fat on it, because fat dissolved
0:13:35 > 0:13:37slowly, slowly, will give a lovely flavour.
0:13:37 > 0:13:42And, you know, here I'm just going to do big chunk of lamb,
0:13:42 > 0:13:46- which I cut this way. - I have a plate here.
0:13:46 > 0:13:49I'm going to put everything inside the plate here,
0:13:49 > 0:13:51and season a little bit.
0:13:51 > 0:13:55Then inside, and then I mix with my hands.
0:13:55 > 0:13:58While Antonio holds it... Bravo, Antonio.
0:13:58 > 0:14:00Again, I'm going to have onions,
0:14:00 > 0:14:01so, roughly chop.
0:14:03 > 0:14:05Cos it's going to cook for a long time.
0:14:05 > 0:14:09So if you cut them too thin, they will mostly dissolve.
0:14:09 > 0:14:11Cut the carrots, quite big pieces.
0:14:11 > 0:14:14I'm going to put some olive oil in a pan.
0:14:14 > 0:14:15Abundant olive oil.
0:14:15 > 0:14:17Abundant, like you like it.
0:14:17 > 0:14:19- Onion goes straight in. - ONIONS SIZZLE
0:14:19 > 0:14:21You can hear the lovely music.
0:14:24 > 0:14:28Then I'm going to have celery, so roughly chopped like that.
0:14:28 > 0:14:32- Very big bits.- Don't forget they're going to cook for a long time.
0:14:32 > 0:14:34Then you get the garlic and just crush it.
0:14:34 > 0:14:38Crush it, crush it, crush it.
0:14:38 > 0:14:40My goodness, you are strong!
0:14:40 > 0:14:41Have them inside.
0:14:41 > 0:14:44Then you get the chilli.
0:14:44 > 0:14:46- With the seeds?- With the seeds.
0:14:48 > 0:14:50OK, this is a little bit slow.
0:14:50 > 0:14:52You know what I'm going to do?
0:14:52 > 0:14:54I'm going to put it right underneath,
0:14:54 > 0:14:58because I want them to have a little bit more high power.
0:14:58 > 0:15:01Now I'm going to put some anchovies.
0:15:01 > 0:15:04It's about five fillets of anchovies.
0:15:04 > 0:15:07- ONIONS SIZZLE - This is the music I love to hear.
0:15:07 > 0:15:10- It tells me that I can put the meat inside.- There you are!
0:15:10 > 0:15:13Lamb inside.
0:15:13 > 0:15:17If you cook at home, yes, it will be on high flame.
0:15:17 > 0:15:19Because I need to seal the meat.
0:15:19 > 0:15:21I need to get that flavour out,
0:15:21 > 0:15:24and get the fat which is round the lamb, to dissolve it.
0:15:24 > 0:15:27Yeah, move on! What do you put on it now?
0:15:27 > 0:15:29A little bunch of thyme.
0:15:29 > 0:15:32I will put a little bit of wine inside.
0:15:32 > 0:15:35- White, yes?- White wine, yeah.
0:15:35 > 0:15:36Could be red as well.
0:15:36 > 0:15:39Well, do you know what, Antonio?
0:15:39 > 0:15:43I prefer white. Also, I will add a little bit of vinegar.
0:15:43 > 0:15:45Vinegar and lemon as well?
0:15:45 > 0:15:48They have this property to really lift up the flavour.
0:15:48 > 0:15:52Now we're going to leave it for about 20 minutes.
0:15:52 > 0:15:54Give it a stir, give it a stir.
0:15:54 > 0:15:56Yeah, I will, OK, I'll give them a stir.
0:15:56 > 0:15:58And I will move them up.
0:16:00 > 0:16:02Yeah.
0:16:03 > 0:16:07Again, I'm going to put inside the rest of the ingredients.
0:16:10 > 0:16:14You see, 20 minutes go by now.
0:16:14 > 0:16:17I'll put a few more logs of wood underneath.
0:16:17 > 0:16:19Now, the fire has started to get too hot.
0:16:19 > 0:16:22So I have to put it down a little bit.
0:16:22 > 0:16:25And I got a quartered potato.
0:16:25 > 0:16:27But I don't want to do them too thin.
0:16:27 > 0:16:30If they're thin, they'll dissolve. You have them inside.
0:16:30 > 0:16:33Then we will put 200 grams of cherry tomatoes.
0:16:33 > 0:16:36You know that I like to squash the tomatoes like that.
0:16:36 > 0:16:38OK. To make you happy, Antonio.
0:16:38 > 0:16:40Do you know why he wanted me to do that?
0:16:40 > 0:16:43Let me show you why he wants to make me like that.
0:16:43 > 0:16:45Because if I do like that, look.
0:16:45 > 0:16:47Are you happy?
0:16:47 > 0:16:50I am not happy because you should have squashed it in the other way,
0:16:50 > 0:16:52not direct in my face!
0:16:52 > 0:16:56Now, 250 grams frozen peas.
0:16:56 > 0:16:59Make sure you defrost them inside the bag. Just leave them out.
0:16:59 > 0:17:00Of all the frozen food,
0:17:00 > 0:17:04the only one that I really accept they are the peas,
0:17:04 > 0:17:06and perhaps the broad beans,
0:17:06 > 0:17:10because it's the only one that, really, they are collected fresh,
0:17:10 > 0:17:11and they are very tender.
0:17:11 > 0:17:15Now, at this stage, stir them a little bit.
0:17:15 > 0:17:17Hold on, Antonio.
0:17:17 > 0:17:21I am going to put them on top of my chopping board.
0:17:21 > 0:17:23So, you add a little bit of water,
0:17:23 > 0:17:26but don't put any stock or anything.
0:17:28 > 0:17:30- OK?- Yum, yum!
0:17:30 > 0:17:35And now, get some nice aluminium foil, just like that.
0:17:35 > 0:17:37And cook for about,
0:17:37 > 0:17:39on very low gas,
0:17:39 > 0:17:42for about 40 to 45 minutes.
0:17:42 > 0:17:4545 minutes? I am hungry now, actually.
0:17:45 > 0:17:48Shall I go and have a walk or something, or what?
0:17:48 > 0:17:50No, we play nice game of cards.
0:17:53 > 0:17:55Wow, look at this!
0:17:55 > 0:17:59Yeah, no, I know. Don't look at my cards!
0:17:59 > 0:18:01I just was saying... I'm not looking at your cards!
0:18:01 > 0:18:03And seven of these.
0:18:03 > 0:18:06Yeah? Seven.
0:18:08 > 0:18:11- Nine.- Listen, do you want to win all the time?- I won!
0:18:11 > 0:18:14- Come on!- Yeah! I won! Cheating?!
0:18:14 > 0:18:17- You are cheating! - Why don't you accept?
0:18:17 > 0:18:19I don't play with you anymore.
0:18:19 > 0:18:21Give me something to eat, actually, I am hungry.
0:18:24 > 0:18:25All the flavour.
0:18:25 > 0:18:29- Lovely.- You can think about this. - Give it to me, Gennaro, that one.
0:18:29 > 0:18:32- This is yours. - No, no, this is my plate here.
0:18:32 > 0:18:34- OK, have it.- That's yours.
0:18:34 > 0:18:36Why are you having a big one, I having a small one?
0:18:36 > 0:18:38I don't care! Give me a fork.
0:18:38 > 0:18:40I am hungry. I waited all the time for this.
0:18:40 > 0:18:43Yeah, me too, but why are you going to have a big one?
0:18:43 > 0:18:46- Mind you, I can talk! - Oh, the smell is wonderful, Gennaro.
0:18:53 > 0:18:54Delicious.
0:18:54 > 0:18:58Ah! Yeah! I done it again!
0:18:58 > 0:19:01I am very glad to have a big plate.
0:19:09 > 0:19:14The friars at San Mateo believe Italians are turning away from the spiritual life.
0:19:14 > 0:19:18But one pilgrim centre attracts more visitors than anywhere in the whole of Italy,
0:19:18 > 0:19:22the town of San Giovanni Rotondo.
0:19:22 > 0:19:24Gennaro is extremely excited.
0:19:24 > 0:19:27This is where my saint lived
0:19:27 > 0:19:28until he died in 1968,
0:19:28 > 0:19:34Padre Pio was a friar who received the stigmata from God,
0:19:34 > 0:19:36the wounds of Christ.
0:19:36 > 0:19:39He cured the sick and still helps people today.
0:19:39 > 0:19:41I love him.
0:19:41 > 0:19:46When I was six, I was ill, and my mother brought me to see Padre Pio
0:19:46 > 0:19:48and I walked beside him.
0:19:48 > 0:19:51And a voice come to me and said, "There's nothing wrong with you,
0:19:51 > 0:19:53"go to your mum, tell her you're all right."
0:19:53 > 0:19:57Since then nothing, nothing happened again.
0:19:57 > 0:19:59If you don't call this miracle,
0:19:59 > 0:20:01I don't know what you have to call miracle.
0:20:01 > 0:20:04Padre Pio...
0:20:04 > 0:20:06..is like Christ for me.
0:20:06 > 0:20:10He's a person that I can put my head on his shoulder.
0:20:13 > 0:20:15Even I have heard of Padre Pio.
0:20:15 > 0:20:18He was made a saint in 2002.
0:20:18 > 0:20:20Devotees believe he worked miracles.
0:20:20 > 0:20:25Some say he floated above the town to stop bombers in the war.
0:20:25 > 0:20:28Across all of Italy, he is worshipped.
0:20:28 > 0:20:32I'm a fanatic, maybe, OK. You can call me anything you like.
0:20:32 > 0:20:34But one thing I know, I do believe in him.
0:20:34 > 0:20:35When I came here,
0:20:35 > 0:20:40there was just a little church with nothing around at all.
0:20:40 > 0:20:43There was none of all this. This is...everything is new.
0:20:43 > 0:20:45It's extra modern.
0:20:45 > 0:20:50Now, eight million people a year come to San Giovanni Rotondo.
0:20:50 > 0:20:54But I'm a bit nervous about bringing Antonio Carluccio.
0:20:54 > 0:20:57If this is not business, I don't know what it is.
0:20:57 > 0:21:00Every possible thing is turned into money here.
0:21:00 > 0:21:03Even tiles for the roofs.
0:21:03 > 0:21:05It's just unbelievable.
0:21:05 > 0:21:07It is extraordinary.
0:21:07 > 0:21:10An industry has grown up around the story of one little man.
0:21:10 > 0:21:13There's no sign of people turning away from religion here.
0:21:13 > 0:21:17There's even a Padre Pio TV station.
0:21:17 > 0:21:21We broadcast in Europe, Australia, New Zealand, North America,
0:21:21 > 0:21:23- Canada.- Wow.
0:21:23 > 0:21:27And we are planning on broadcasting in Latin America, too.
0:21:27 > 0:21:32- We don't know when, though. - So how many sort of listeners do you think you reach?
0:21:32 > 0:21:33Oh, millions, millions.
0:21:33 > 0:21:35The station goes all over the world, Antonio.
0:21:35 > 0:21:37We also have a programme in English.
0:21:37 > 0:21:39Yes. Hello from San Giovanni Rotondo.
0:21:39 > 0:21:41It's interesting to know.
0:21:41 > 0:21:43We try to do our best.
0:21:43 > 0:21:45Gennaro is a good client.
0:21:45 > 0:21:47Yeah, well...
0:21:47 > 0:21:51They use every possible means of spreading the word.
0:21:51 > 0:21:54And now Padre Pio apps for smart phones.
0:21:54 > 0:22:00All the devotees are able to watch our channel on the application.
0:22:00 > 0:22:04- How many people do you think you can reach? Is it calculable? - Virtually billions.
0:22:04 > 0:22:05Billions.
0:22:05 > 0:22:07Gennaro, you are in big company.
0:22:07 > 0:22:13Unbelievable! A brilliantly marketed holy celebrity.
0:22:13 > 0:22:16- You know what, Antonio? I'm going inside the church.- Yeah.
0:22:16 > 0:22:19You want to come with me inside the church?
0:22:19 > 0:22:21Do you think they give coffee there?
0:22:21 > 0:22:24- No, I don't think so, Antonio. - Well, then look, I do a proposal.
0:22:24 > 0:22:26You go to the church, and I'm gong to the pub.
0:22:26 > 0:22:29- Then I meet you there.- Yes. - OK, we do that.
0:22:30 > 0:22:33I want to see how pilgrims eat here.
0:22:35 > 0:22:40It's pretty obvious that the 21st century has taken place here.
0:22:41 > 0:22:43The feeding of the eight million.
0:22:59 > 0:23:02This is where they've laid Padre Pio's body.
0:23:05 > 0:23:07All these people.
0:23:08 > 0:23:14Maybe, like me, they are looking for simple answers in a confusing world.
0:24:01 > 0:24:03Business must go very well here.
0:24:03 > 0:24:07The owner has a Cartier watch and a wonderful one as well.
0:24:07 > 0:24:09I know it cost a lot of money.
0:24:09 > 0:24:13The food that I had here, I improved with a bit of olive oil, a bit of salt, a bit of cheese.
0:24:13 > 0:24:16In those places, serving so many people,
0:24:16 > 0:24:20they have everything ready made and so on, but it's not as good.
0:24:20 > 0:24:24People are getting rich with...
0:24:24 > 0:24:25In my opinion,
0:24:25 > 0:24:28this is a mass marketed belief,
0:24:28 > 0:24:30served with mass produced food.
0:24:30 > 0:24:33Both have somewhat lost touch with their roots.
0:24:33 > 0:24:37I hope Gennaro is having a more inspiring time.
0:24:41 > 0:24:46This pilgrim, he walked all the way from Spain.
0:24:46 > 0:24:49Lourdes, Fatima, Rome,
0:24:49 > 0:24:53Santiago de Compostela, everywhere he goes,
0:24:53 > 0:24:54and they give him a stamp.
0:24:59 > 0:25:01Come on.
0:25:01 > 0:25:02Come on.
0:25:02 > 0:25:06If this is not a believer, I don't know what a believer is.
0:25:10 > 0:25:13He brings some salami with him.
0:25:13 > 0:25:15And a mortadella.
0:25:19 > 0:25:22He says, yeah, that little fat inside, they give us energy.
0:25:26 > 0:25:30This believer is doing something extraordinary.
0:25:30 > 0:25:34Religion can be fantastic, whatever Antonio thinks.
0:25:34 > 0:25:36Take this massive hospital.
0:25:36 > 0:25:39Here is, Antonio, this is an hospital built by Padre Pio
0:25:39 > 0:25:41when he was still alive.
0:25:41 > 0:25:45- Yeah.- And all the money was charity money.
0:25:45 > 0:25:47It's one of the best hospitals in the world.
0:25:47 > 0:25:53- And it has over 1,000 beds. - Gennaro, that's impressive.
0:25:53 > 0:25:56This is one hospital with fantastic food.
0:25:56 > 0:26:01Comes fresh every day from Padre Pio's farm.
0:26:01 > 0:26:05- Wow.- Look at that, look at that. - Buongiorno!
0:26:05 > 0:26:10Bella, bella. What kind of place is this, this wonderful place here?
0:26:10 > 0:26:14Well, this is a farm donated to Padre Pio in 1956.
0:26:14 > 0:26:16We cultivated the olive trees.
0:26:16 > 0:26:19- We have 70 hectares of olive trees. - 70 hectares?
0:26:19 > 0:26:24We have cows, we produce mozzarella cheese and all the soft cheese.
0:26:24 > 0:26:26- All for the hospital? - That's all for the hospital.
0:26:26 > 0:26:29Gennaro, I think that if the food is delivered from here,
0:26:29 > 0:26:32it must be very good food in the hospital.
0:26:32 > 0:26:34- Of course it is, indeed. - Better than in Britain.
0:26:40 > 0:26:45So this is the paste with the hot water, really hot.
0:26:45 > 0:26:48Wonderful! They are making a caciocavallo cheese,
0:26:48 > 0:26:52the pilgrim's favourite. It starts like mozzarella
0:26:52 > 0:26:55and it's stretched and shaped in very hot water.
0:26:55 > 0:26:58- So it's about 80... - 82 degrees.- 82 degrees?
0:27:02 > 0:27:05And he has his hands in it. For me, burns.
0:27:05 > 0:27:11So he have to shape it in a certain way and the layers, they're inside.
0:27:11 > 0:27:15Ah! This is what it's all about.
0:27:15 > 0:27:21Simple ingredients and serious men with pride in the food they make.
0:27:21 > 0:27:24- There is so much work, Antonio. - It's wonderful.
0:27:25 > 0:27:27Then it's put on strings to age,
0:27:27 > 0:27:31just like the ones pilgrims use in their portable picnics.
0:27:32 > 0:27:35OK, here we are.
0:27:35 > 0:27:38This is the place where the cheese matures.
0:27:38 > 0:27:42- Oh-ho!- Caciocavallo.- Wonderful!
0:27:42 > 0:27:44Now, this is what I call a place of worship.
0:27:44 > 0:27:49Pecorino, piccorone. You have also the stracciatella.
0:27:49 > 0:27:51Stracciatella is something unbelievable.
0:27:51 > 0:27:55Look at this! Ah!
0:27:56 > 0:27:59How do you make this, tell me?
0:27:59 > 0:28:03- We have to just ring all the mozzarella.- Yeah.
0:28:03 > 0:28:06And then dip it in the double cream.
0:28:06 > 0:28:11Gennaro, you felt yourself in heaven today, yes, but with Padre Pio.
0:28:11 > 0:28:13- That's my Padre Pio.- OK.
0:28:13 > 0:28:15- Go away.- Yeah.
0:28:17 > 0:28:20It's so delicious!
0:28:20 > 0:28:24Oh, mama mia!
0:28:30 > 0:28:34Puglia has always specialised in simple food.
0:28:34 > 0:28:38Wheat, grapes and the most incredible oil.
0:28:38 > 0:28:39This is olive country.
0:28:46 > 0:28:48I can hear them sing.
0:28:48 > 0:28:50It's incredible!
0:28:56 > 0:28:59What a lovely song, Antonio.
0:29:03 > 0:29:08# Che bella cose naina de sole. #
0:29:08 > 0:29:13OLIVE PICKERS SING LOUDER
0:29:13 > 0:29:18GENNARO HUMS JAUNTY TUNE
0:29:32 > 0:29:33Buongiorno!
0:29:33 > 0:29:35Anyone speak English here?
0:29:41 > 0:29:42- Wonderful. - Nice to meet you. Maria.
0:29:42 > 0:29:45Nice to meet you, Maria. Is this your family here?
0:29:45 > 0:29:47Yeah, this is my mother-in-law's land.
0:29:47 > 0:29:51We've come with all the cousins to pick the olives.
0:29:51 > 0:29:54And tell me something. Are these olives you pick,
0:29:54 > 0:29:56the oil you produce is for your own use, or are you going to sell it?
0:29:56 > 0:29:58No, no, for our own use.
0:29:58 > 0:30:01Tell me, I am very curious. What is the age of this young girl here?
0:30:27 > 0:30:30If you have just the oil and bread, you can survive
0:30:30 > 0:30:32and this is the most important thing.
0:30:42 > 0:30:48You know what, Antonio? If you think olive oil is the first thing, when you've been baptised,
0:30:48 > 0:30:50the priest puts oil.
0:30:50 > 0:30:53And then the last thing when you die, is oil.
0:30:53 > 0:30:57So beginning and ending. And in between, olive oil.
0:30:57 > 0:31:01And between, olive oil always through with salad, with cooking,
0:31:01 > 0:31:04we make bread and stuff. It's unbelievable.
0:31:04 > 0:31:06Gennaro, I would like to see you going on a tree
0:31:06 > 0:31:09and pick the famous olives.
0:31:09 > 0:31:11OK, can you help me? Push me from underneath.
0:31:11 > 0:31:16Hey, push! Hey, hey!
0:31:16 > 0:31:19Are you there? Well done, Gennaro.
0:31:19 > 0:31:21OK, now where's the olives?
0:31:21 > 0:31:24Where's the olives? I want olives!
0:31:24 > 0:31:26Give me the olives!
0:31:26 > 0:31:28Give me the olives!
0:31:28 > 0:31:30Gennaro, they already collected.
0:31:30 > 0:31:32Perhaps it was the wrong tree.
0:31:34 > 0:31:37It's lunchtime. Would you like to come?
0:31:37 > 0:31:41Yeah, yeah! Yeah! A mangiare!
0:31:44 > 0:31:47Antonio, what about the food on this table?
0:31:47 > 0:31:49It's wonderful, wonderful.
0:31:49 > 0:31:55Peppers, potato, tomato, garlic and a lovely oil which is inside here.
0:31:55 > 0:31:57Incredible.
0:31:57 > 0:32:02I am not a religious man but this is my idea of heavenly lunch.
0:32:02 > 0:32:05This bread, now Antonio, look at the bread.
0:32:06 > 0:32:08- Gennaro?- Yes.
0:32:08 > 0:32:11Rarely I've seen a coppa like this.
0:32:11 > 0:32:13You make this one, yeah?
0:32:13 > 0:32:17Maria, her family grew and made all the food on this table.
0:32:17 > 0:32:19It is fantastic.
0:32:19 > 0:32:23I think it makes them closer to God.
0:32:23 > 0:32:26Growing food helps this family through the hard times.
0:32:26 > 0:32:32It is not surprising they revere it and celebrate the cycles of life.
0:32:32 > 0:32:35THEY SING IN ITALIAN
0:32:50 > 0:32:54Puglia is known as the bread basket of Italy.
0:32:54 > 0:32:57In the summer these plains are covered in wheat
0:32:57 > 0:33:00and they produce the most wonderful bread.
0:33:01 > 0:33:05Bread, the most sacred food of all, the body of Christ.
0:33:06 > 0:33:10We are heading for an old straw-fired bread oven.
0:33:16 > 0:33:22One of the best ovens ever, because it cooks with indirect heat, amazing.
0:33:28 > 0:33:31Oh, look. This is the big hole.
0:33:31 > 0:33:35So he calls the big hole "inferno", which means hell.
0:33:35 > 0:33:39And if you are not careful, the bread goes down there and that's it.
0:33:39 > 0:33:42It is a lost soul.
0:33:42 > 0:33:46Perhaps even worse than that, Gennaro. I don't know what you're worried about.
0:33:46 > 0:33:48I'm not worried about, Antonio.
0:33:48 > 0:33:51If I have to go, Antonio, do you know what?
0:33:51 > 0:33:54If you ask me what person I have to have with me,
0:33:54 > 0:33:56you know, would be nice to have you.
0:33:56 > 0:34:00Because I can actually do anything I like inside there.
0:34:00 > 0:34:01And also to cuddle you.
0:34:01 > 0:34:05Gennaro, you are wonderful. You're wonderful. Give us a kiss, give us a kiss.
0:34:05 > 0:34:07Mwah. Mwah!
0:34:07 > 0:34:09Ah, bless you.
0:34:09 > 0:34:11You see? You've started changing now.
0:34:23 > 0:34:27Angelo's reverence for bread reminds me of my mother.
0:34:27 > 0:34:29Nothing changes here.
0:34:30 > 0:34:32Ah. Ah!
0:34:32 > 0:34:34Ooh, la pizza.
0:34:34 > 0:34:36That's wonderful. Look at this.
0:34:36 > 0:34:38The fresh tomatoes on top.
0:34:40 > 0:34:42Bread balls.
0:34:42 > 0:34:45So with a bit of cheese and a little bit of parsley, a little garlic. Wow.
0:34:45 > 0:34:47Mmm.
0:34:50 > 0:34:53Oh, that's wonderful.
0:34:53 > 0:34:57Antonio, this is bread which you removed all inside the bread.
0:34:57 > 0:35:01And the same stuff you removed, you cook with all the vegetables,
0:35:01 > 0:35:03olive oil.
0:35:03 > 0:35:05- That's fantastic. - Then you put it back.
0:35:05 > 0:35:08Purer, the taste couldn't be.
0:35:08 > 0:35:10Nature as itself.
0:35:10 > 0:35:14Ah! The final part of the holy trinity - the wine.
0:35:14 > 0:35:16The big one for you.
0:35:16 > 0:35:18And the small one for me.
0:35:18 > 0:35:20Listen, he knows the social orders.
0:35:20 > 0:35:21Yes, I know, I know.
0:35:26 > 0:35:31- That's...- Salute! Make sure Jesus, I can see you.
0:35:33 > 0:35:35It's empty. Have some more.
0:35:35 > 0:35:38Shall we see if we see the Madonna now?
0:35:38 > 0:35:39Can we see?
0:35:39 > 0:35:43Yeah!
0:35:43 > 0:35:45And again.
0:35:45 > 0:35:47OK, let's do again.
0:35:47 > 0:35:49Make sure Antonio - happy?
0:35:49 > 0:35:53I think I'm stuck!
0:35:53 > 0:35:57OK! One, two, three, all in the one time.
0:36:02 > 0:36:05OK, one, two.
0:36:10 > 0:36:11I think I had enough.
0:36:11 > 0:36:13I didn't see Jesus
0:36:13 > 0:36:16but I do believe stale bread is the most wonderful ingredient.
0:36:21 > 0:36:24- Antonio?- Yes?
0:36:24 > 0:36:26Look at the view - it is incredible!
0:36:26 > 0:36:28It is fantastic.
0:36:28 > 0:36:31It's called the Tavolieri di Puglia, so the Table of Puglia.
0:36:31 > 0:36:34I'm going to make a bread salad. What do you think?
0:36:34 > 0:36:36That's fantastic. I like bread.
0:36:36 > 0:36:39Here is the bread. A double cooked bread.
0:36:41 > 0:36:43Almost like a biscuit.
0:36:43 > 0:36:46Easy. Just pour some water on top.
0:36:46 > 0:36:49In it, for the bread in it to drink.
0:36:49 > 0:36:51That's wonderful in summer.
0:36:51 > 0:36:54People, they take this bread, squash it, ripe tomato,
0:36:54 > 0:36:57a little bit of olive oil, and you have a taste.
0:36:57 > 0:36:59- Say now.- Puglia.
0:36:59 > 0:37:04So I start first when I cut the carrot in small strip.
0:37:04 > 0:37:05That should be enough for now.
0:37:05 > 0:37:07And of course celery.
0:37:07 > 0:37:11- But remember celery, I need to keep...- The leaves.
0:37:11 > 0:37:15Make sure you only use the tender part, because they're sweet.
0:37:15 > 0:37:19If you use the very green ones, they are bitter. They're not very good.
0:37:19 > 0:37:22So again, cut it in little strips.
0:37:24 > 0:37:27Then the water is boiling. I need to blanch a little bit.
0:37:27 > 0:37:30Then I start with red pepper, OK?
0:37:30 > 0:37:32So you cut it.
0:37:32 > 0:37:35I'm salivating.
0:37:35 > 0:37:38Then you make into little strip again.
0:37:38 > 0:37:41Got the red and the yellow peppers.
0:37:41 > 0:37:45Then I go to the shallot, cut it.
0:37:47 > 0:37:50Onions. Then garlic.
0:37:50 > 0:37:53And I'm going to strain it because it's almost done.
0:37:53 > 0:37:55Oh-ho-ho-ho!
0:37:58 > 0:38:01Now I'm going to finish off, zucchini.
0:38:01 > 0:38:03Chop, chop, chop.
0:38:03 > 0:38:05Aubergines.
0:38:05 > 0:38:08Just a little bit, with the hard skin.
0:38:12 > 0:38:14Oh, Antonio, the cats. I can hear the cats.
0:38:14 > 0:38:16I love it.
0:38:16 > 0:38:20This oil, Gennaro, it is the vierette pressing of the olive,
0:38:20 > 0:38:22just brought in.
0:38:24 > 0:38:26It's just the fruit, you drink.
0:38:26 > 0:38:28I know, I know, it's drink.
0:38:28 > 0:38:32If you put a little teat on top and you give it to Antonio, he will enjoy.
0:38:32 > 0:38:35- I would, I would. - Let's put it inside here.
0:38:35 > 0:38:37I'm going to start with anchovies,
0:38:37 > 0:38:41I'm going to put two fillets of anchovies.
0:38:41 > 0:38:43You see, they melted away.
0:38:46 > 0:38:52And then I will add some garlic and shallot and a few olives, OK?
0:38:52 > 0:38:55Then I go with yellow, red peppers.
0:38:55 > 0:38:56Bit of courgette.
0:38:58 > 0:39:01Stirring, stirring, stirring.
0:39:01 > 0:39:07Now I'll add inside the aubergines, the carrots and the celery.
0:39:07 > 0:39:08Bit of salt.
0:39:08 > 0:39:09Not too much.
0:39:09 > 0:39:12Not too much, you're right, because there is the anchovies.
0:39:12 > 0:39:14Little thyme, strip it.
0:39:14 > 0:39:18And then I will start to put one tablespoon of sugar.
0:39:20 > 0:39:24And now I'm going to put three tablespoons of vinegar.
0:39:25 > 0:39:28Wow.
0:39:28 > 0:39:33Stir it, stir it, stir it, stir it, and let it reduce a bit.
0:39:33 > 0:39:37The sugar and the vinegar they become almost like a syrup.
0:39:40 > 0:39:42I add fresh basil.
0:39:42 > 0:39:44I do not cut it, I break it.
0:39:44 > 0:39:49But I will roughly chop the celery.
0:39:49 > 0:39:53- And by now, the bread... - Breaks very easily.
0:39:53 > 0:39:57Breaks very easy, but it still stays in one piece,
0:39:57 > 0:40:00it's still got that little bit al dente, that crunchiness.
0:40:00 > 0:40:03- Mmm!- Which is fantastic.
0:40:03 > 0:40:06I can already imagine.
0:40:07 > 0:40:10- Go on, just go on. - Come on, come on, come on.
0:40:10 > 0:40:17And, just for you, but also for me, I will put a few anchovies.
0:40:17 > 0:40:18That's beautiful.
0:40:18 > 0:40:20Ah!
0:40:20 > 0:40:21And just tell me.
0:40:29 > 0:40:30Go on, come on!
0:40:30 > 0:40:32Delightful.
0:40:33 > 0:40:34Yeah!
0:40:41 > 0:40:44It's 1st November, the day of a pagan festival
0:40:44 > 0:40:47that's unique to the town of Orsara di Puglia.
0:40:47 > 0:40:51It's All Souls Day, the Day of the Dead.
0:40:51 > 0:40:53People party all night.
0:40:54 > 0:40:57But before we sample the food,
0:40:57 > 0:41:02it's 11am and the whole town has come to mourn its loved ones.
0:41:45 > 0:41:46I don't know.
0:41:52 > 0:41:54It's moving,
0:41:54 > 0:42:01but I make some provision to put a few ashes in one huge firework,
0:42:01 > 0:42:05have a lovely party and the firework being banged in the air
0:42:05 > 0:42:08and there was Antonio Carluccio.
0:42:08 > 0:42:11And I hope they do it.
0:42:12 > 0:42:15Where is Gennaro?
0:42:15 > 0:42:16Where is he praying?
0:42:19 > 0:42:21There you are.
0:42:21 > 0:42:22How are you?
0:42:22 > 0:42:24- All right, thank you.- Yeah?
0:42:24 > 0:42:26Are you sure?
0:42:26 > 0:42:27Yeah, yeah, yeah, OK.
0:42:28 > 0:42:30I know that you take it...
0:42:30 > 0:42:32..a bit heavy.
0:42:33 > 0:42:35- It's all right.- You're all right.
0:42:35 > 0:42:39But be happy. Tonight we have big celebration with food,
0:42:39 > 0:42:43with sausages and fires everywhere.
0:42:43 > 0:42:44Shall we go?
0:42:44 > 0:42:48- Come on, let's go.- OK, you're all right.- Yeah, fine, let's go.
0:42:48 > 0:42:49Good.
0:42:50 > 0:42:52Good, good, good.
0:42:54 > 0:42:58When night falls, we head into town to see what's cooking.
0:42:58 > 0:42:59Antonio!
0:42:59 > 0:43:01Gennaro!
0:43:01 > 0:43:04Come in, you have to see this. Come in, come in.
0:43:04 > 0:43:08There's a queue for getting the meat, for the festivity.
0:43:08 > 0:43:11SPEAKS ITALIAN
0:43:11 > 0:43:15So about a tonne of sausages to celebrate today.
0:43:15 > 0:43:18And enjoy themselves!
0:43:18 > 0:43:19Queue and queue and queue.
0:43:19 > 0:43:23- Let's go eat something, Antonio, I'm feeling very hungry.- Buona sera.
0:43:23 > 0:43:27- Buona sera, grazie. Bueno apetito. - Unbelievable.- Tremendous.
0:43:28 > 0:43:33There is a strange, spooky feeling in the streets.
0:43:33 > 0:43:40Everyone is putting candles outside their houses and building bonfires.
0:43:40 > 0:43:43They believe the flames and the sparks attract the dead
0:43:43 > 0:43:47back to spend just one night with their families.
0:43:47 > 0:43:51We come across Vito, from the olive-picking family.
0:43:51 > 0:43:56I want to know if teenage lads still believe all this stuff.
0:43:56 > 0:44:01This house that we're near here, apparently, this old woman,
0:44:01 > 0:44:04- her name was Messalina, died in the stairs.- Yes.
0:44:04 > 0:44:09- And every now and then, you hear the steps of the woman going up and down the stairs.- Yes.
0:44:09 > 0:44:13So we always put a chair so the old lady can sit here
0:44:13 > 0:44:15and watch the fire with us.
0:44:15 > 0:44:18Which kind of food do you cook now when the fire is on?
0:44:18 > 0:44:22- Pork chops.- Pork chops?- Sausages. - Yes.- Bacon.- Bacon.
0:44:22 > 0:44:25- We have to light the fire now. - What time is it?
0:44:25 > 0:44:28- Half past six.- All the souls rise from the death at seven o'clock.
0:44:28 > 0:44:29- At seven?- Yes.
0:44:29 > 0:44:31Do they have an alarm call?
0:44:31 > 0:44:35- The fire, before seven, all the saints will get angry. - Antonio, I fully agree.
0:44:35 > 0:44:39- You agree?- Of course! Did you want the souls to be angry? You tell me.
0:44:39 > 0:44:43I don't think that in the soul they can be angry if you do a little fire.
0:44:43 > 0:44:45Antonio, no, no, no, no, no. They will. They will.
0:44:45 > 0:44:49Look. He says that. They all say that.
0:44:52 > 0:44:53Seven o'clock.
0:44:53 > 0:44:57I say that you're a minority, so we light at seven o'clock.
0:44:57 > 0:44:59- Everything is precise.- Precise.
0:44:59 > 0:45:01It has to be seven o'clock the fire has to be lit.
0:45:01 > 0:45:03Seven o'clock precise.
0:45:08 > 0:45:09Raw sausages!
0:45:09 > 0:45:13'Well, obviously it's going to be a long wait here.
0:45:13 > 0:45:16'Perhaps Vito's mother Maria has something to offer.'
0:45:21 > 0:45:25This is a traditional granocotto for All Saints Day.
0:45:25 > 0:45:26Oh, yes.
0:45:26 > 0:45:29'Granocotto means cooked grain.'
0:45:29 > 0:45:33- So the recipe is that you put this grain...- Barley, yes.
0:45:33 > 0:45:36- ..into water for one day. - One day, overnight.
0:45:36 > 0:45:39Then you boil it in plenty of water.
0:45:39 > 0:45:42Water. Then you add vincotto.
0:45:42 > 0:45:45- It's a sort of... - Cooked wine.
0:45:45 > 0:45:47A sort of syrupy thing.
0:45:47 > 0:45:49Let me taste because my granny used to prepare it,
0:45:49 > 0:45:51it was just wonderful.
0:45:52 > 0:45:55Mm, mm, mm, mm.
0:45:55 > 0:45:57I want to taste it, as well.
0:45:57 > 0:45:58It is just fantastic.
0:45:58 > 0:46:03- There we go. - A bit of pomegranate, wonderful.
0:46:03 > 0:46:05And a bit of chocolate.
0:46:05 > 0:46:06Oh, that's wonderful.
0:46:06 > 0:46:08Here we go.
0:46:08 > 0:46:11This is a very old recipe.
0:46:11 > 0:46:13Looks to me that it's been here for a long, long time.
0:46:13 > 0:46:16- How is it? Is it delicious? - Wonderful.
0:46:16 > 0:46:21And this is what you cook on All Souls Day?
0:46:21 > 0:46:25The women go to the cemetery. So they don't have time to bake bread.
0:46:30 > 0:46:33Maria, the soul of a relative that comes inside the house.
0:46:33 > 0:46:35And do you believe that?
0:46:35 > 0:46:36Yes, I do believe.
0:46:36 > 0:46:38Ask your mother-in-law.
0:46:53 > 0:46:55So it's true that they see the soul.
0:46:55 > 0:46:56They saw the souls.
0:46:57 > 0:47:01I say cheers to all the souls of the world.
0:47:01 > 0:47:04Nona Pepinella, my granny,
0:47:04 > 0:47:08wherever you are, cheers.
0:47:10 > 0:47:11It's wonderful.
0:47:11 > 0:47:15Where religious belief is simple in the heart of ordinary people,
0:47:15 > 0:47:17so is the food.
0:47:40 > 0:47:44And there is always a place for absent friends.
0:48:10 > 0:48:11I smell sausages.
0:48:11 > 0:48:13Sausages.
0:48:13 > 0:48:14- Sausages.- Sausages.
0:48:14 > 0:48:17- Sausages. Ah!- Sausages everywhere.
0:48:26 > 0:48:30- Gennaro, they are special for this occasion.- OK.- Biscuit with vincotto.
0:48:30 > 0:48:33- Where?- Here.- OK, let's go.- In there.
0:48:47 > 0:48:51Gennaro, you know exactly that the Italians, we all love food.
0:48:51 > 0:48:55And we wait for just a celebration of any kind to have special food.
0:48:55 > 0:48:57Any excuse.
0:48:58 > 0:49:03Now we are going to use Italy's most famous celebration cake,
0:49:03 > 0:49:06Christmas Panettone, to make a wonderful pudding.
0:49:08 > 0:49:11Should you be the happy recipient of a panettone
0:49:11 > 0:49:15around Christmas time, there are various ways to deal with it.
0:49:15 > 0:49:18When I talked to my friend, Gennaro, I said, "What shall we do?
0:49:18 > 0:49:19"Shall we do something different?"
0:49:19 > 0:49:22And he came to the idea to make the Zucotto.
0:49:22 > 0:49:24Zucotto is a speciality from Tuscany.
0:49:24 > 0:49:31We start with the ricotta and the ricotta will be put in two lots.
0:49:31 > 0:49:35And we have here about half a kilo of ricotta.
0:49:37 > 0:49:39Freshly made.
0:49:39 > 0:49:42So I think that it's now half each.
0:49:42 > 0:49:44This is candied peel of lemon
0:49:44 > 0:49:47and other fruit, which, cut into small pieces...
0:49:47 > 0:49:49Gennaro, can you do me the honour?
0:49:49 > 0:49:52- Of course, with the greatest pleasure.- Fantastic.
0:49:52 > 0:49:55Meanwhile, I will put the sugar...
0:49:55 > 0:49:59So, I divide it here probably 75 grams of sugar.
0:49:59 > 0:50:03I weigh it with my hand. And I start to work it.
0:50:03 > 0:50:06So now the panettone is a celebration thing
0:50:06 > 0:50:11and unites all of Italy somehow.
0:50:11 > 0:50:13You say in your house you don't eat panettone.
0:50:13 > 0:50:15- I do eat panettone.- When?
0:50:15 > 0:50:18I usually have a panettone at Christmas.
0:50:18 > 0:50:20How can you do Christmas without a panettone?
0:50:20 > 0:50:22No, that's what I think.
0:50:22 > 0:50:25So we put some cocoa powder here,
0:50:25 > 0:50:29yes, about 30, 40 grams of this.
0:50:29 > 0:50:32This is an easy recipe everybody can work,
0:50:32 > 0:50:34especially the children.
0:50:34 > 0:50:37I remember I was assisting, and you too probably,
0:50:37 > 0:50:39with all the cooking process.
0:50:39 > 0:50:41Yeah, that's fantastic.
0:50:41 > 0:50:43- That was the best bit.- Yes.
0:50:43 > 0:50:46Now I'm waiting for you to divide between the two.
0:50:46 > 0:50:47Fantastic!
0:50:47 > 0:50:51- Which one you want?- This one here.
0:50:51 > 0:50:52And then I take the other half.
0:50:52 > 0:50:55- I'll come and cut the other one. - The other one.
0:50:57 > 0:51:00There we are. Gennaro, you must see that sometimes
0:51:00 > 0:51:03I find it a little bit hard to be with you all the time.
0:51:03 > 0:51:06Yes, I know, I do indeed. I mean you do indeed.
0:51:06 > 0:51:09- Yes, but I think... - But, don't say.
0:51:09 > 0:51:13For this pudding here, we do a light, lovely collaboration, yes?
0:51:13 > 0:51:15Oh, you still have to do the chocolate?
0:51:15 > 0:51:18- Of course I do the chocolate. - I need only 50 grams.
0:51:18 > 0:51:25OK, while you're doing this, I cut actually the panettone.
0:51:25 > 0:51:31Then we cut first of all two circles to put in between.
0:51:31 > 0:51:34Shall we put them inside this one?
0:51:34 > 0:51:35Half and half.
0:51:35 > 0:51:38- Half and half. - Half here, half there.
0:51:38 > 0:51:39And now with the other one.
0:51:43 > 0:51:45Shall I mix this one inside?
0:51:45 > 0:51:46Yeah, a little bit there.
0:51:46 > 0:51:49These are almonds - flaked almonds.
0:51:49 > 0:51:51- Now mix it well.- Yeah.
0:51:52 > 0:51:55While I am preparing the base of it,
0:51:55 > 0:52:02where I put Clingfilm, so that we can lift it better later on.
0:52:02 > 0:52:04And now another little trick.
0:52:04 > 0:52:08Vin Santo, it's holy wine, as they say.
0:52:08 > 0:52:10Antonio, I can't wait.
0:52:10 > 0:52:15I would like to brush it very well so it becomes quite moist and flavoursome.
0:52:15 > 0:52:17So now we start with the white.
0:52:27 > 0:52:29Now give me the other one.
0:52:34 > 0:52:35I love this.
0:52:35 > 0:52:36Yes.
0:52:45 > 0:52:48Well, you put the weight here,
0:52:48 > 0:52:50and we put it in the fridge.
0:52:50 > 0:52:51Minimum six hours.
0:52:51 > 0:52:53You can do it the day before.
0:53:06 > 0:53:08There you are. La-la, la-la, la-la!
0:53:15 > 0:53:17Panettone Zucotto.
0:53:18 > 0:53:20And you cut it like this.
0:53:21 > 0:53:23Mmm!
0:53:25 > 0:53:27- You sure? - Perfect, yes.
0:53:27 > 0:53:31Yeah, yeah. Yes!
0:53:31 > 0:53:32Fantastic. Look at this!
0:53:33 > 0:53:36- Gennaro...- Perfection!
0:53:36 > 0:53:39This is a collaboration that is out of this world.
0:53:39 > 0:53:41And now just taste it.
0:53:41 > 0:53:44- Shall we?- Yes. Happy Christmas, Happy New Year,
0:53:44 > 0:53:45happy anything you want.
0:53:45 > 0:53:47Happy every day.
0:53:53 > 0:53:57Mmm. Mmm, mmm, hmm, hmm, mmm.
0:53:57 > 0:54:00- Such a delicious flavour. - It's wonderful.
0:54:06 > 0:54:07Ah!
0:54:24 > 0:54:26I have enjoyed our trip to Puglia
0:54:26 > 0:54:29and for good food I put up with a bit of religion.
0:54:31 > 0:54:34But before we leave this part of Italy,
0:54:34 > 0:54:37I want to make a pilgrimage on my own.
0:54:38 > 0:54:39This is the right thing.
0:54:44 > 0:54:45- Antonio!- Yes.
0:54:45 > 0:54:47Come here, come here, come here, come here.
0:54:47 > 0:54:51Oh, Antonio, I'm finding mushrooms so brilliant.
0:54:51 > 0:54:54- Let's see.- Antonio.- Wow!
0:54:54 > 0:54:58Trompette la mort. That's fantastic.
0:54:58 > 0:55:01Or Horn of Plenty in English.
0:55:09 > 0:55:10Antonio!
0:55:10 > 0:55:13Wood blewits everywhere here.
0:55:13 > 0:55:16Good. Collect them.
0:55:16 > 0:55:18Bring some to me.
0:55:18 > 0:55:21Antonio, there's so many.
0:55:21 > 0:55:24You are a donkey, you can carry them.
0:55:36 > 0:55:39This is my cathedral.
0:55:45 > 0:55:47This is the world that I understand.
0:55:47 > 0:55:50World made of nature.
0:55:52 > 0:55:56The mushrooms are the kings, actually funnily enough.
0:55:56 > 0:56:00Otherwise you could see sort of piles and piles and piles of leaves
0:56:00 > 0:56:02and branches and trees become rotted.
0:56:02 > 0:56:08And responsible for this rotting, they are the mushrooms.
0:56:10 > 0:56:14This you can see really the eternal cycle of life.
0:56:14 > 0:56:19Death comes down, something else is built up,
0:56:19 > 0:56:25life comes back again and continues and continues and continues.
0:56:25 > 0:56:28I don't know for how long. Nobody knows.
0:56:28 > 0:56:30But that's the point.
0:56:30 > 0:56:33That's the wonderful thing, that we don't know
0:56:33 > 0:56:40when we are turned also into earth and ashes, and for another purpose.
0:56:45 > 0:56:46Oh, the smell!
0:56:46 > 0:56:48It is death and life together.
0:56:48 > 0:56:50But the smell...
0:56:50 > 0:56:52Almost edible.
0:56:52 > 0:56:55Viva la natura!
0:57:12 > 0:57:14Antonio...
0:57:14 > 0:57:17This stone I carry inside is ever so heavy.
0:57:17 > 0:57:18Which stone?
0:57:18 > 0:57:20- What do you mean which stone? - Yeah.
0:57:20 > 0:57:22Antonio...
0:57:25 > 0:57:26You carried this stone?
0:57:26 > 0:57:29I've been carrying this stone for all the journey.
0:57:29 > 0:57:31Was this yours?
0:57:31 > 0:57:35- That was a joke. - That was a joke? Now you realise.
0:57:35 > 0:57:37I threw my stone a very long time ago.
0:57:37 > 0:57:40- You threw your stone a long time? - Yes.
0:57:40 > 0:57:41It got heavier.
0:57:41 > 0:57:44- Only Gennaro can do that. - You fooled me.
0:57:44 > 0:57:48Listen, Gennaro, we have done a long journey.
0:57:48 > 0:57:49We have indeed, Antonio.
0:57:49 > 0:57:54We had some grievances, but we had also lovely time.
0:57:54 > 0:57:56More lovely time more than anything else.
0:57:56 > 0:58:01Shall we symbolise everything that we ate together,
0:58:01 > 0:58:05with that, turn the other way and start a new life.
0:58:05 > 0:58:10New life, Anton? For 30 years, after 30 years.
0:58:10 > 0:58:13Listen, listen, a new time, not a new life.
0:58:13 > 0:58:16A new time without all those stupid jokes.
0:58:16 > 0:58:18Just a minute, Anton. One for me and one for you.
0:58:18 > 0:58:20Give him a kiss.
0:58:21 > 0:58:26I don't believe a filthy stone. Throw it away.
0:58:26 > 0:58:29One, two, three.
0:58:31 > 0:58:32E voila.
0:58:33 > 0:58:37Come on, let's go to eat, Antonio, come on. I'm starving.
0:58:37 > 0:58:41I was carrying that stone all the way and you chucked away yours.
0:58:41 > 0:58:42That's not fair.
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