Battle of the Atlantic

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:00:19. > :00:22.This used to be the most secret place in Britain. A vital command

:00:22. > :00:26.centre, protected by armed guards, hidden deep below the bustle of

:00:26. > :00:30.Liverpool City Centre. And, indeed, during the Blitz, below the

:00:31. > :00:37.wreckage of large chunks of it. Covered by the Official Secrets Act

:00:37. > :00:40.until 1975, it didn't exist officially until then. Even today,

:00:40. > :00:48.hundreds of Liverpudlians walk over it in the streets above, totally

:00:48. > :00:53.unaware of what's beneath their feet. 70 years ago, this was simply

:00:53. > :00:55.known as the Western Approaches Combined Headquarters. And it was

:00:55. > :01:05.here, below reinforced ceilings and three foot thick walls, that

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:01:10. > :01:13.But to win wars, you need to win battles, and the story of The

:01:13. > :01:23.Battle of the Atlantic was to prove to be the longest, deadliest and

:01:23. > :01:42.

:01:42. > :01:45.most vital of them all. At stake, But this is also the story of this

:01:45. > :01:52.river and its people, and their will to survive and win against all

:01:52. > :02:02.the odds. Today marks the 70th anniversary of victory in the

:02:02. > :02:04.

:02:04. > :02:06.Battle of the Atlantic. And the nation's eyes are on Liverpool. But

:02:06. > :02:10.this will be the last official occasion those who lived through

:02:10. > :02:13.those dark days will gather to remember. Many are now in their 90s

:02:13. > :02:23.and too old to travel. Many of their stories remain forgotten or

:02:23. > :02:29.

:02:29. > :02:36.I wonder how many people see this statue at the Pier Head and know

:02:36. > :02:42.who this man was? His eyes stare out to sea, scanning the horizon.

:02:42. > :02:45.In the war, he was searching for submarines. In peace, well, he's

:02:45. > :02:51.now a resting place for local pigeons, and the occasional tourist

:02:51. > :03:01.photograph. Every battle needs a hero and this man, Captain Frederic

:03:01. > :03:01.

:03:01. > :03:04.John Walker, was that hero. The legend they called Johnnie Walker.

:03:04. > :03:08.He was a leader, he didn't believe in anybody slacking, he didn't

:03:09. > :03:16.believe of any enemies in the group. Whatever the decisive order was you

:03:16. > :03:20.did it. You didn't question it. You just did it because you knew he had

:03:20. > :03:27.conviction. Them ships, they worked together as a unit, one unit, one

:03:27. > :03:31.leader and that was it. But at the start of the war he remained,

:03:31. > :03:34.forgotten and largely ignored by the Admiralty. His time would come

:03:34. > :03:38.later when be would be given command of an escort group of

:03:38. > :03:41.fighting ships based in Liverpool. Ironically his speciality was anti-

:03:41. > :03:51.submarine warfare and submarines were to be at the very heart of

:03:51. > :03:55.

:03:55. > :03:58.The Battle began just eight hours after war was declared. The Athenia,

:03:58. > :04:04.an unarmed passenger liner crowded with women and children, had left

:04:04. > :04:10.Liverpool, hoping to reach the safety of Montreal. She was hit by

:04:10. > :04:18.a single torpedo, and sank off the coast of Ireland. 98 passengers and

:04:18. > :04:21.19 crew died. And on the first day of war, Germany begins her mass

:04:21. > :04:26.murder at sea. The survivors of the Athenia land, living witnesses of

:04:26. > :04:32.the horror of Nazi warfare. Sinking an unprotected ship was a deadly

:04:32. > :04:40.warning of what was to come - the menace of the U-boat. The Battle of

:04:40. > :04:43.Britain's hopes of winning the war depended on keeping open the vital

:04:43. > :04:52.lifeline of supplies carried by ships from America and Canada to

:04:52. > :04:56.Liverpool. It was a time of real crisis, every day the number of

:04:56. > :05:02.hits on these vital convoys got worse and more and more ships

:05:02. > :05:05.simply failed to get through. The early days of the war were to prove

:05:05. > :05:12.a disaster for shipping and a triumph for the German submarine,

:05:12. > :05:22.the U-boat. Early convoys would have little protection. By June

:05:22. > :05:28.

:05:28. > :05:34.1940 200 allied ships had already Hit and run, the method of the U-

:05:34. > :05:38.boat. No prisoners taken, just men, weeks adrift, dying of thirst.

:05:39. > :05:43.Hauled by a torpedo, funk by shellfire or suck -- shellfire or

:05:43. > :05:48.sat a light. Thousands of shipping destroyed each month and thousands

:05:48. > :05:51.of good men lost. Vivienne Brooke was a Wren from Liverpool,

:05:51. > :05:54.monitoring the convoys losses as part of a secret unit based in the

:05:54. > :05:57.Liver Buildings. She used these wooden models of boats to chart

:05:57. > :06:01.their progress. By the end of the crossing many of these models would

:06:01. > :06:05.be swept off the board. By the time they got into British waters, they

:06:05. > :06:08.were limping very badly, some of them. And by the time they came

:06:08. > :06:12.into Liverpool waters and into our plot there would perhaps only be

:06:12. > :06:17.three left of 20. And it was a very sad sight to see them limping in

:06:17. > :06:23.after all that voyage across the Atlantic. On Merseyside 10,000

:06:23. > :06:27.local men volunteered to join the Merchant Navy. It was a perilous

:06:27. > :06:32.task. Life expectancy was lower than the armed forces, and your pay

:06:32. > :06:41.stopped if your ship was sunk. Many were just teenagers, seeing sights

:06:41. > :06:45.that still haunt them to this day. I was 19 years of age then and they

:06:45. > :06:53.were... You'd see men diving over the side of the ships, and they are

:06:53. > :07:00.diving into water that's on fire, and we couldn't save them. We

:07:01. > :07:04.weren't allowed to stop to save anybody. You had to just keep going.

:07:04. > :07:09.To see them men on fire in the water, all the water's on fire

:07:09. > :07:15.because the oil's on fire. And, oh, it was terrible that was, that was

:07:15. > :07:18.a terrible thing. You'd see a ship, right in the middle of the convoy,

:07:18. > :07:21.sometimes you'd catch them on the outsides of the convoy, but right

:07:21. > :07:24.in the middle of the convoy bowl and they just exploded and then

:07:24. > :07:27.they kept exploding, for about maybe 12 hours you could hear after

:07:27. > :07:37.and they were still afloat but exploding with the ammunition in

:07:37. > :07:42.them. A simple terse telegram would bring the war to people's doorsteps.

:07:42. > :07:45.It was a telegram you never wanted to receive. My cousin Gerrard was

:07:45. > :07:51.in the Merchant Service on his way home, in convoy of course, off the

:07:51. > :07:54.coast of Ireland. They were torpedoed and from what we heard

:07:54. > :08:04.from somebody else who was in the same convoy, there was just a

:08:04. > :08:07.whoosh and the ship just disappeared. And I wasn't in the

:08:07. > :08:17.forces then, and I was getting ready to go to work and I heard

:08:17. > :08:19.

:08:19. > :08:23.this awful scream and it was my aunt Nell. When I went in, as we

:08:23. > :08:33.lived next door but one to each other, she had the telegram in her

:08:33. > :08:36.

:08:36. > :08:38.Churchill decided on direct action. In February 1941 he moved the

:08:39. > :08:42.entire command of the Western Approaches, as the Atlantic theatre

:08:42. > :08:51.of war became known, from Plymouth to this top secret bunker, a former

:08:51. > :08:56.telephone exchange in the basement here at Derby House in Liverpool.

:08:56. > :08:59.It was from here the Battle would have to be won. This rare film

:08:59. > :09:04.shows what life was like here at the height of the Battle. 400 staff

:09:04. > :09:09.worked around the clock every day in these rooms. Many were local

:09:09. > :09:11.women recruited from the Wrens or Women's Auxiliary Air Force. They

:09:12. > :09:14.were connected to Bletchley Park, where intercepted signals from

:09:14. > :09:22.German submarines, using secret Enigma codes, were decoded and sent

:09:22. > :09:28.to Liverpool to plot the threat to the convoys. Local historian

:09:28. > :09:32.Margaret Jones showed me around. You get an impressive view of the

:09:32. > :09:37.map room from up here. Whose office was this? This was Sir Max Horton's

:09:37. > :09:41.office. He was the Commander in Chief, in charge of the Battle of

:09:41. > :09:46.the Atlantic. He certainly was. He certainly was, yes. And is the

:09:46. > :09:50.office as he left it in 1945? or less. We've paid great attention

:09:50. > :09:54.to the detail, you see it's extremely authentic. There's only

:09:54. > :09:59.him we need sitting here, it's more or less as he left it. Why was this

:09:59. > :10:03.place so secretive? Because of the immense part it played in World War

:10:03. > :10:06.II as in the Battle of the Atlantic, in fact without the part it played,

:10:06. > :10:11.we wouldn't have won the Battle of the Atlantic, that's the relevance

:10:11. > :10:17.of it. And the MoD knew what they were doing. Everyone here was under

:10:17. > :10:20.the Official Secrets Act and they knew how to keep a secret. Stella

:10:20. > :10:23.Passey was another young Wren from Liverpool, caught up in the Battle.

:10:23. > :10:30.Most days she carried secret orders and signals into the Command Centre

:10:30. > :10:33.from the Blundellsands Wren headquarters. I'd just be given

:10:33. > :10:35.this envelope to take into Derby House, so we used to get the

:10:35. > :10:45.overhead railway, the Docker's Umbrella, into Liverpool and walk

:10:45. > :10:47.

:10:47. > :10:50.up to Derby House. I used to have to go in, I can't remember the

:10:50. > :10:53.security, but I can remember I'm sure I went down the stairs and

:10:53. > :11:03.along the corridor, past where they has all the ships, convoys, you

:11:03. > :11:04.

:11:04. > :11:12.know, I handed over what I had, got a receipt and that was it. Then I

:11:12. > :11:16.had to go back to Blundellsands that same way I came.

:11:16. > :11:18.Seated on the hood of a touring car, the Prime Minister goes on a tonic

:11:18. > :11:21.tour of the bombed areas of Birkenhead, Liverpool and

:11:21. > :11:24.Manchester. Mr Churchill not only receives a tonic from the

:11:24. > :11:31.courageous Lancastrians as he said in his broadcast, but he himself

:11:31. > :11:34.acts like a tonic to the stout hearted people in the front line.

:11:34. > :11:37.We now know that Churchill didn't come to Liverpool just to raise

:11:37. > :11:41.moral, he came here because he was desperately worried about the U-

:11:41. > :11:47.Boat menace. But how did he stay in touch with the government of the

:11:47. > :11:51.country, when he was in Liverpool? Well, when he was in here, he had

:11:51. > :11:57.his own private hotline and so he used this secret telephone box.

:11:57. > :12:00.This is just one of two remaining in the UK. And when he was in there

:12:00. > :12:05.there was an armed guard outside while he was making his hotline

:12:05. > :12:15.telephone calls. And of course, it's situated in the guard room

:12:15. > :12:25.

:12:25. > :12:29.itself, that's how secure it had to sealed off anyway. So many people

:12:29. > :12:32.who worked here may not have known even that Mr Churchill was in the

:12:32. > :12:35.building, making a phone call? Quite likely, because it's so big, they

:12:35. > :12:38.wouldn't have needed to know- they were so busy getting on with their

:12:38. > :12:41.own work at the time as well. Perhaps the tell-tale whiff of cigar

:12:41. > :12:44.smoke might have been the giveaway. Churchill's new Command Centre soon

:12:44. > :12:47.proved its worth by overseeing the hunting down and sinking of the

:12:47. > :12:50.German battleship, Bismarck. It was an event that helped change the

:12:50. > :12:53.course of the war. And now the only pictures actually taken during the

:12:53. > :12:56.engagement of the war. This portion of our picture was pulled to and

:12:56. > :12:59.taken from one of our ships and shows the last of Bismark's shells

:12:59. > :13:03.bursting before she sank. Back in Liverpool, the Port and the River

:13:03. > :13:07.Mersey were proving to be vital assets to the Allies as the convoys

:13:07. > :13:14.began to get through. Stuart Wood is one of the Mersey's most experienced

:13:14. > :13:17.river pilots, and an expert on the history of the river. The war effort

:13:17. > :13:20.on Merseyside was a little-known story, perhaps almost forgotten but

:13:20. > :13:23.the reason it's forgotten is because it involved absolutely everyone on

:13:23. > :13:27.Merseyside from the dockers to the river pilots to the tug boat owners,

:13:27. > :13:37.tug boat crews, to the volunteers who went to sea in the ship, for the

:13:37. > :13:37.

:13:37. > :13:42.whole period of six years. The manpower lost on Merseyside was

:13:42. > :13:47.around about 12,000. 2,200 odd ships were lost during that six year

:13:47. > :13:51.period. It was the total commitment of the people of Merseyside that

:13:51. > :13:56.made it work. Without the River Mersey and the people who lived on

:13:56. > :13:59.both banks, the war could not have been successfully won. 90% of the

:13:59. > :14:04.cargo that was required to progress the war came through the river here,

:14:04. > :14:09.it came through the Port of Liverpool. 70 million tonnes in six

:14:09. > :14:15.years. Quite a remarkable effort and it was down to the local people to

:14:15. > :14:21.keep it going for six years. This quiet corner of Anfield Cemetery

:14:21. > :14:26.shows the tragic price people paid for victory. It also tells the

:14:26. > :14:29.saddest of stories. How many people taking a short cut to Anfield or

:14:29. > :14:36.Goodison Park or just rambling through, realise that this is a mass

:14:36. > :14:43.grave? The last resting place of 554 people killed during some of the

:14:43. > :14:51.worst bombing any city has had to endure. Some of those buried here

:14:51. > :15:01.were never identified. The German plan was simple. Stop the ships at

:15:01. > :15:05.

:15:05. > :15:08.sea and destroy Liverpool. This photograph was recovered from German

:15:08. > :15:11.intelligence at the end of the war. It was taken secretly by the

:15:11. > :15:14.Luftwaffe flying over Liverpool in November 1940 and the detail is

:15:14. > :15:19.chilling. Ships waiting in the river to rejoin convoys back to Canada can

:15:19. > :15:21.be clearly seen. Someone has marked out potential targets in red ink.

:15:21. > :15:31.Clarence Dock Power Station, the local gasworks and factory and anti

:15:31. > :15:35.

:15:35. > :15:40.aircraft positions in Birkenhead. These photographs of the bomb damage

:15:40. > :15:45.were taken by Liverpool Police. They had the task of logging where every

:15:45. > :15:51.bomb dropped. They're seen here for the first time in 70 years. They'd

:15:51. > :15:55.been locked away in files now kept by the Merseyside force. The true

:15:55. > :16:01.extent of the bombing on Merseyside was kept from the public. Only

:16:01. > :16:04.London was bombed more. Churchill's war cabinet censored reports.

:16:04. > :16:10.Liverpool was referred to only as a ''northern town'' to protect the

:16:10. > :16:17.public morale. Proud buildings lay in ruins, backstreet homes and

:16:17. > :16:22.suburbia were all affected by the bombing. But the docks and the Port

:16:22. > :16:25.of Liverpool were the main targets. An ammunition ship, the SS Malakand,

:16:25. > :16:31.was set on fire in Huskisson Dock and exploded with such force that

:16:31. > :16:36.debris was found two miles away. Queen Victoria's statue remained

:16:36. > :16:46.untouched. She cast a defiant figure and was an inspiration to the people

:16:46. > :16:47.

:16:47. > :16:49.of Liverpool. But the surrounding devastation was extraordinary. Two

:16:49. > :16:57.thirds of Bootle's housing was destroyed and in all nearly 200,000

:16:57. > :16:59.homes either damaged or destroyed. The docks and the river were

:16:59. > :17:09.constantly hit, but somehow the dockers ensured convoys of ships

:17:09. > :17:10.

:17:10. > :17:14.were able, finally, to unload their precious cargoes. One of the many

:17:14. > :17:17.legacies we have of the 39-45 conflict in this river is the number

:17:17. > :17:20.of ships that were lost. The wrecks number hundreds and we are in a

:17:20. > :17:26.particularly good place here off the Liver building, where a ship hit a

:17:26. > :17:29.mine and blew up and shattered into millions of pieces. The area was

:17:29. > :17:34.designated by the Mersey Docks and Harbour company as a prohibited

:17:34. > :17:38.anchorage because the wreckage on the bottom couldn't be cleared away.

:17:38. > :17:41.The Mersey Docks and Harbour company had more important things to do.

:17:41. > :17:44.They did a quick survey, checked that it was reasonably safe and then

:17:44. > :17:50.declared the area a no-go area, in real terms a prohibited anchorage

:17:50. > :17:55.and it's still the same 70 years later. And this is St Luke's Church

:17:55. > :17:59.standing proud at the top of Bold Street. It was hit by an incendiary

:17:59. > :18:09.and left to this day as a haven of peace and a lasting reminder of the

:18:09. > :18:10.

:18:10. > :18:14.pity of war. This is Bootle Town Hall. The flags, bunting, ships

:18:14. > :18:18.plaques and paintings on the wall tell their own story. They honour

:18:18. > :18:24.the memory of all who took part in the Battle of the Atlantic. Here,

:18:24. > :18:29.they never forget. This ship's bell is rung before every council

:18:29. > :18:36.meeting. It's a direct link from the present to the past, to the Battle

:18:36. > :18:41.of the Atlantic. But the bell pays tribute also to Captain Johnnie

:18:42. > :18:47.Walker. Walker was given HMS Starling when he took over command

:18:47. > :18:53.of the Second Support Group, based in the Mersey at Bootle. It was to

:18:53. > :18:55.prove to be a key moment in the war. Walker devised new tactics. Instead

:18:55. > :19:04.of shepherding and defending convoys from submarines, his ships would go

:19:04. > :19:08.on the attack in groups and hunt them down. The biggest difference he

:19:08. > :19:12.made was by taking the battle to the war, instead of sitting back

:19:12. > :19:19.waiting. They were destroying at will. He turned it round and he

:19:19. > :19:22.hunted them, instead of them hunting us. And that's why he always played

:19:22. > :19:32.that tune when he left Liverpool, 'A Hunting We Will Go' and that's

:19:32. > :19:41.

:19:41. > :19:45.A team effort once again. We hear this all the time. When they were

:19:45. > :19:48.out there hunting the submarine, one nailed it while the other kept it in

:19:48. > :19:53.position and then the others in the group went after them to make sure

:19:53. > :19:57.they finished the job off. He was an amazing man, well thought of, but

:19:57. > :20:04.had this ability to lead his men, not from a distance but from right

:20:04. > :20:07.up at the front. Come on boys let's go to it. For those out on the

:20:07. > :20:11.convoys, the fragility of life was an everyday experience. Norman Earl

:20:11. > :20:19.lost four ships and many friends while in the Merchant Navy. He was

:20:19. > :20:22.torpedoed twice and bombed twice. When your ship got hit your mind

:20:22. > :20:27.went everywhere because, especially if it was an aircraft, you could see

:20:27. > :20:32.the bombs coming but you wouldn't know where to go. You'd nowhere to

:20:32. > :20:35.go anyway. If you did get hit at sea and you were injured, well, you'd

:20:35. > :20:45.probably lie dead and drown because you never had time to clear

:20:45. > :20:46.

:20:46. > :20:51.everything together. You were always happy all the time though. Even

:20:51. > :20:54.though you were young, you didn't want to die young. For some

:20:54. > :21:00.returning seamen, there was little appreciation for the brave work they

:21:00. > :21:04.were doing. I was abused a couple of times with not being in uniform so

:21:04. > :21:14.all's we had was a badge and anybody that had a son or relative in the

:21:14. > :21:23.

:21:23. > :21:27.armed forces, they'd thought we were dodging the collar. There's a few

:21:28. > :21:37.times I've been told. It's only when somebody else pointed out what I'd

:21:38. > :21:45.

:21:45. > :21:48.done I got away with it. completion of 20 days successful

:21:48. > :21:53.U-Boat hunting in the North Atlantic ends with the arrival at Liverpool

:21:53. > :21:56.of sloops of the Second Escort group. Six German submarines sunk in

:21:56. > :21:59.an operation which the First Lord of the Admiralty assessed as far

:21:59. > :22:01.reaching in its importance and comparable to Trafalgar. HMS

:22:01. > :22:09.Starling enters port with Captain Walker, group commander, standing

:22:09. > :22:15.proud. He flies the signal 19, 39, 44. Johnnie Walker still going

:22:15. > :22:18.strong. Walker's tactics worked brilliantly. He returned in triumph

:22:18. > :22:28.and received a hero's welcome from the crowds and the First Lord of the

:22:28. > :22:31.

:22:31. > :22:38.Admiralty. You have created a record in having sent well and truly, no

:22:38. > :22:46.doubt about them, six German U-boats. And Captain Walker took the

:22:46. > :22:50.opportunity to lead the hurrahs. Hip, hip, hurrah! Hip, hip, hurrah!

:22:50. > :22:53.By 1944, the Battle of the Atlantic was all but won. Attacks on the

:22:53. > :22:59.convoys began to fall and vital supplies for the D-Day landings got

:22:59. > :23:01.through. But in the moment of triumph came tragedy. Just four

:23:02. > :23:08.months after sinking those six submarines, Captain Walker collapsed

:23:08. > :23:13.and died. Many believed he'd worked himself to death and died of

:23:13. > :23:18.exhaustion. He had sunk more U-boats than any other British or Allied

:23:18. > :23:23.commander during the war. The city of Liverpool came to a halt, as

:23:23. > :23:33.thousands lined the streets to say a final farewell. And then Johnnie

:23:33. > :23:42.

:23:42. > :23:46.Walker was buried at sea, with full military honours, in Liverpool Bay.

:23:46. > :23:49.Even though I grew up in Liverpool, I never knew the full story of

:23:49. > :23:58.Johnnie Walker or even the secret of the Western Approaches headquarters

:23:58. > :24:04.and its role in the war. It was governed by the Official Secrets Act

:24:04. > :24:10.until 1975 in case it ever needed to be used again. It's now preserved as

:24:10. > :24:13.the Liverpool War Museum. It's strange to walk along its empty

:24:13. > :24:19.corridors, with the ghosts of the past, and where Stella had once

:24:19. > :24:28.brought her secret orders. I discovered she hadn't been back here

:24:28. > :24:37.in nearly 70 years. There you go, Stella. Do you recognise this place?

:24:37. > :24:44.I'm sure there was a corridor there on the other side. Do you recognise

:24:44. > :24:49.the map room? I recognise the chart, yes. When you looked from your

:24:49. > :24:55.vantage point, which is only a yard or two away from the table.

:24:55. > :25:02.could see them moving the markers, you know, if they had to move them.

:25:02. > :25:05.And what was the atmosphere like? Pretty tense I would think. I think,

:25:05. > :25:15.honestly, you looked upon each of those as a ship and you hoped that

:25:15. > :25:15.

:25:15. > :25:20.they either got to Halifax or got back to England, you know. Because

:25:20. > :25:27.at one time there were actually loads and loads of losses of ships.

:25:27. > :25:31.Everyone had this enormous weight of responsibility? That's right, yes.

:25:31. > :25:41.After so many years, how does it feel being back here now? Coming

:25:41. > :25:44.back here? It's an experience! I never thought I would come back.

:25:44. > :25:48.It's humbling in many ways to reflect on the statistics of the

:25:48. > :25:55.Battle, the longest battle of any modern war. Liverpool's dockers

:25:55. > :26:05.handled 79 million tonnes of cargo. Cammel Lairds built a new ship every

:26:05. > :26:05.

:26:05. > :26:12.20 days. 28,000 U-boat crew men died. 3,500 ships were sunk. And

:26:12. > :26:16.32,000 Merchant seamen never made it back to this river. And when you

:26:16. > :26:20.look upon the Mersey, it's hard not to think of those who lost their

:26:20. > :26:23.lives. And what it meant to a whole generation who lost their youth,

:26:23. > :26:33.lost their innocence, lost family, and friends, but never lost their

:26:33. > :26:35.

:26:35. > :26:39.will to survive. And for them, why it is important to always remember.

:26:39. > :26:46.They don't teach the children today in the schools enough about how this

:26:46. > :26:50.country was saved. Because we were down to two weeks food and that was

:26:50. > :26:59.the end of it. Everything came to Britain, apart from what was grown

:26:59. > :27:03.here, everything came to Britain by sea. To be a Merchant seaman during

:27:03. > :27:07.the war, I am very, very proud to say that I was with some real good

:27:07. > :27:14.men. They knew what to expect. They knew what they were going to go

:27:14. > :27:18.through. But they signed on again and they went back to sea. Many of

:27:18. > :27:26.the men had been in lifeboats but they signed on again and went out

:27:26. > :27:29.again. And I've been proud to have been one of the men. I think there

:27:29. > :27:36.should be a permanent memorial for it because Liverpool was in the

:27:36. > :27:41.midst of it and I think we should have a memorial. They say it's the

:27:41. > :27:51.last one but it won't be the last one for me. I'll still remember them

:27:51. > :27:51.

:27:51. > :27:54.and I'll still go to the memorials. You think what could have been. It's

:27:54. > :28:04.no use worrying about what could have been, it's what's happening now

:28:04. > :28:11.

:28:11. > :28:13.that's the most important. In the darkest days of World War Two, the