Nicki Chapman

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0:00:02 > 0:00:04Us Brits have a passion for property

0:00:04 > 0:00:08and of course our national obsession is house prices.

0:00:08 > 0:00:13- How much to buy?- You're looking at about 1.7 million for an apartment like this.

0:00:13 > 0:00:17But housing is about so much more than bricks and mortar.

0:00:17 > 0:00:20Look at the smile on my face.

0:00:20 > 0:00:23It's about who we are and how we choose to live.

0:00:26 > 0:00:3275 years since the Beveridge report vowed to rebuild Britain's housing...

0:00:32 > 0:00:33Slums must go.

0:00:33 > 0:00:36..we are opening the doors to Britain's home truths...

0:00:38 > 0:00:39From council houses...

0:00:39 > 0:00:41..to suburban semis.

0:00:41 > 0:00:42High rises...

0:00:42 > 0:00:44..to country pads...

0:00:44 > 0:00:46In fact, anywhere we call home.

0:00:46 > 0:00:49..to find out if three-quarters of a century later,

0:00:49 > 0:00:53we really have built a better place to live.

0:01:07 > 0:01:11As the presenter of Escape To The Country and Wanted Down Under,

0:01:11 > 0:01:14I have met loads of people who just wanted to run away

0:01:14 > 0:01:17'and start a new life somewhere else.

0:01:17 > 0:01:19'And I always know how they feel.

0:01:19 > 0:01:23'But escaping for me isn't to a countryside pad,

0:01:23 > 0:01:25'let alone a different continent.

0:01:25 > 0:01:27'No, I find freedom by leaving the city

0:01:27 > 0:01:31'and going back to my old home town of Herne Bay.'

0:01:31 > 0:01:33I love this journey.

0:01:33 > 0:01:36I commuted up to London every single day for about a year

0:01:36 > 0:01:39and on the way home, after Gillingham, if you glimpse,

0:01:39 > 0:01:41if you look out just past the hills,

0:01:41 > 0:01:44you could actually see the sea and on a good day,

0:01:44 > 0:01:49you could smell it and then I knew I was nearly home.

0:01:49 > 0:01:51And this is what it looks like.

0:01:51 > 0:01:53Now, to the outsider,

0:01:53 > 0:01:55this place may look pretty traditional

0:01:55 > 0:01:58and even a little bit old-fashioned,

0:01:58 > 0:02:00but I want to show you how, in its day,

0:02:00 > 0:02:03it was an example of revolutionary town planning

0:02:03 > 0:02:06and was, in fact, one of Britain's early new towns.

0:02:06 > 0:02:08'First, though, I have arrived.

0:02:08 > 0:02:09'Yes, I'm home.'

0:02:14 > 0:02:17MUSIC: Shang-A-Lang by Bay City Rollers

0:02:17 > 0:02:19Every time I return to this place,

0:02:19 > 0:02:23I get that sense of having escaped the stresses of my life in the city.

0:02:23 > 0:02:27And it's not just me, it's done the same for generations of visitors.

0:02:27 > 0:02:30Back in the late '60s and '70s,

0:02:30 > 0:02:35traditional seaside towns like Herne Bay were still all the rage,

0:02:35 > 0:02:38offering hard-working families the chance to get away from it all

0:02:38 > 0:02:40for a week by the coast.

0:02:40 > 0:02:45They were also where teenagers liked to hang out playing the amusements,

0:02:45 > 0:02:47something I have never tired of.

0:02:49 > 0:02:52Yes!

0:02:52 > 0:02:54'For those of us who lived here full-time,

0:02:54 > 0:02:59'you can imagine how this carefree spirit ran through us like a stick of rock.'

0:02:59 > 0:03:01Look at the smile on my face.

0:03:01 > 0:03:04This is my old road.

0:03:04 > 0:03:06I moved in when I was three.

0:03:06 > 0:03:08It is a cul-de-sac.

0:03:08 > 0:03:11We used to play on this road all the time, no worries about cars.

0:03:11 > 0:03:15One of my best friends lived there.

0:03:15 > 0:03:16And ahead of us...

0:03:17 > 0:03:21..is my old house. I haven't been here for years.

0:03:21 > 0:03:24Up this road. And there she is.

0:03:24 > 0:03:27And that's my parents' room up there.

0:03:27 > 0:03:32And they extended it. They had two rooms and I was right at the end,

0:03:32 > 0:03:33single room, as you do,

0:03:33 > 0:03:36never would have had a double bed in a child's room.

0:03:36 > 0:03:39Had all my posters up on the wall.

0:03:40 > 0:03:42I loved this house.

0:03:42 > 0:03:44It's got a certain innocence about it.

0:03:44 > 0:03:48My parents paid just under £7,000 for this property.

0:03:48 > 0:03:50Now what's it worth?

0:03:50 > 0:03:54I don't know. 300, 350,000, it's got to be, hasn't it?

0:03:54 > 0:03:57It's extraordinary.

0:03:57 > 0:04:00MUSIC: Blue Monday by New Order

0:04:00 > 0:04:03Not that I spent that much time at home.

0:04:03 > 0:04:05I was more likely to be found on the promenade,

0:04:05 > 0:04:09roller-skating with my friends or flirting with boys.

0:04:09 > 0:04:12Little did I know at the time, of course,

0:04:12 > 0:04:14but seaside towns like Herne Bay

0:04:14 > 0:04:16were about to go into serious decline

0:04:16 > 0:04:20as cheap foreign travel replaced the traditional family holiday.

0:04:20 > 0:04:22And as the '70s gave way to the '80s,

0:04:22 > 0:04:26a lot of younger people took the opportunity to seek their fortune

0:04:26 > 0:04:27in the Big Smoke.

0:04:27 > 0:04:30I should know - I was one of them.

0:04:30 > 0:04:33I'd started a career in the music business,

0:04:33 > 0:04:36eventually working with people like the Spice Girls and Simon Cowell.

0:04:36 > 0:04:39But living in amongst the pollution,

0:04:39 > 0:04:41noise and general chaos of the concrete jungle,

0:04:41 > 0:04:45I learned to escape back to the simplicity of my little town

0:04:45 > 0:04:47and the people whom I loved most,

0:04:47 > 0:04:50like my sister, Shelley, and best friend, Krista.

0:04:50 > 0:04:52While they get the kettle on,

0:04:52 > 0:04:55I'm raiding Mum's attic for some old keepsakes to help jog our memories

0:04:55 > 0:04:57of what it was like to live here.

0:04:57 > 0:05:00Whereabouts is it? Is it with these old cards?

0:05:00 > 0:05:03No. It's on the other side, it's in a blue box.

0:05:03 > 0:05:07- Can you see it? - Is it this one?- That's the one.

0:05:07 > 0:05:10- The memory bank.- Oh, yes, I'll be careful with that then.

0:05:14 > 0:05:17Now, Nana bought me this.

0:05:17 > 0:05:19She did. Yes. Look.

0:05:19 > 0:05:22I never looked like that whenever I did ballet.

0:05:22 > 0:05:25You've kept these and I didn't realise I'd done it, actually.

0:05:25 > 0:05:26All the exams.

0:05:26 > 0:05:30Roller-skating, I got up to grade four.

0:05:30 > 0:05:32I don't know whether she still works.

0:05:32 > 0:05:33Shall we try?

0:05:33 > 0:05:34MUSIC PLAYS

0:05:34 > 0:05:36She does.

0:05:36 > 0:05:37Look!

0:05:38 > 0:05:40Oh!

0:05:41 > 0:05:43- Makes me a bit emotional.- Yes.

0:05:45 > 0:05:46Aw!

0:05:46 > 0:05:48We'll close her up.

0:05:51 > 0:05:53I'm not the only one stepping down memory lane today.

0:05:53 > 0:05:56I wonder what Krista and Shelley have dug up.

0:05:56 > 0:05:59What are you two looking at there? Oh, dear.

0:05:59 > 0:06:00Really bad photographs.

0:06:01 > 0:06:02There you are.

0:06:04 > 0:06:05It's the bubble perms that get me.

0:06:05 > 0:06:07Bobby socks.

0:06:07 > 0:06:10Growing up here was I think lovely.

0:06:10 > 0:06:14- It was great.- Looking back, did you enjoy it?

0:06:14 > 0:06:15It was always sunny, I think.

0:06:15 > 0:06:17That's what I always remember.

0:06:17 > 0:06:20We were always at the beach.

0:06:20 > 0:06:23Either at your beach hut or we were down at the sailing club.

0:06:23 > 0:06:24Or roller-skating.

0:06:24 > 0:06:26Early courting days.

0:06:26 > 0:06:29You know I was always known as Nicki's sister.

0:06:29 > 0:06:32And I would have been Nicki's friend.

0:06:34 > 0:06:35- No!- You were always very popular.

0:06:35 > 0:06:37No, you were.

0:06:37 > 0:06:39I think you're being a bit generous there.

0:06:39 > 0:06:44I've been going around looking at other towns to see what makes a town.

0:06:44 > 0:06:46Why do you think Herne Bay is so special?

0:06:46 > 0:06:48Well, it's got history to it.

0:06:48 > 0:06:51It's got a beautiful seafront.

0:06:51 > 0:06:53We've got the promenade which you can walk all the way along.

0:06:53 > 0:06:56We've still got our pier and it is still used

0:06:56 > 0:06:59and it's beautiful now with the helter-skelter on it.

0:06:59 > 0:07:00People don't like to move into London -

0:07:00 > 0:07:02they want to stay here, I think.

0:07:02 > 0:07:05We're close to the countryside as well.

0:07:05 > 0:07:07We got the sea and the countryside, we're so lucky.

0:07:07 > 0:07:10We were very lucky growing up here, weren't we?

0:07:10 > 0:07:14- Definitely.- The great thing is we all want to come back when we can

0:07:14 > 0:07:17and most importantly, we're all friends.

0:07:17 > 0:07:18Still to this day.

0:07:18 > 0:07:20That will never change.

0:07:23 > 0:07:26OK, so my home truth is of escape to a simpler,

0:07:26 > 0:07:28healthier and yes, nostalgic way of life.

0:07:28 > 0:07:31And that's something that the founders of Herne Bay

0:07:31 > 0:07:33wouldn't have found surprising at all.

0:07:33 > 0:07:37In fact, it's how this place was planned and designed,

0:07:37 > 0:07:39to provide a retreat for workers,

0:07:39 > 0:07:43wanting to escape their often-difficult lives in the industrial city.

0:07:43 > 0:07:47In many ways, it was one of the country's first new towns.

0:07:49 > 0:07:50Hi, Colleen.

0:07:50 > 0:07:53- Hello, Nicki.- Lovely to meet you.

0:07:53 > 0:07:55Which is certainly the view of local historian,

0:07:55 > 0:07:57Colleen Ashwin-Keen, whom I'm meeting at one

0:07:57 > 0:08:00of my roller-skating haunts, the old bandstand.

0:08:00 > 0:08:04So when did Herne Bay as I know it really come into its own?

0:08:04 > 0:08:08People were starting to come to Herne Bay in the late 1700s

0:08:08 > 0:08:12and there was a gentleman, Mr Burge,

0:08:12 > 0:08:15who gathered together some speculators

0:08:15 > 0:08:18and they decided to build a new town.

0:08:18 > 0:08:21I must admit, I didn't realise that Herne Bay was a new town.

0:08:21 > 0:08:23Yes, I have a plan which I can show you.

0:08:25 > 0:08:28They planned it round three squares - Hanover Square,

0:08:28 > 0:08:30Brunswick Square and Oxendon Square.

0:08:30 > 0:08:33It sounds very posh, doesn't it?

0:08:33 > 0:08:37They were trying to attract holiday-makers,

0:08:37 > 0:08:39because a lot of the houses,

0:08:39 > 0:08:43when you look at the old census returns, were boarding houses.

0:08:43 > 0:08:48It was at the time when sea bathing was becoming very popular.

0:08:48 > 0:08:53And Herne Bay was renowned for its healthy air.

0:08:53 > 0:08:54Yes, absolutely.

0:08:54 > 0:08:56It still is healthy today.

0:08:56 > 0:09:01They also had a consortium and sold shares in the pier.

0:09:01 > 0:09:05I think the development of the town, they were making money.

0:09:05 > 0:09:06Certainly business-minded.

0:09:06 > 0:09:09MUSIC: Enola Gay by Orchestral Manoeuvres In The Dark

0:09:09 > 0:09:12And the story was the same across the land, from Blackpool to Bognor,

0:09:12 > 0:09:16all offering workers and their families a chance to escape the industrial cities,

0:09:16 > 0:09:19to a healthier, more relaxed place.

0:09:20 > 0:09:22But seaside resorts are only the first chapter

0:09:22 > 0:09:24in Britain's new town story.

0:09:24 > 0:09:26Others were to follow,

0:09:26 > 0:09:29including utopian social experiments,

0:09:29 > 0:09:33bold government plans and even the town built by royalty.

0:09:33 > 0:09:37MUSIC: Personal Jesus by Depeche Mode

0:09:37 > 0:09:40I want to know more about the home truths of these places,

0:09:40 > 0:09:43to see if they offer the same sense of escape

0:09:43 > 0:09:45that I find in Herne Bay

0:09:45 > 0:09:47and so I'm off on a road trip.

0:09:47 > 0:09:51My first stop is the pretty little town of Letchworth in Hertfordshire.

0:09:54 > 0:09:57With its quaint thatched cottages and tree-lined streets,

0:09:57 > 0:10:00this place looks like it should be on the front of a chocolate box,

0:10:00 > 0:10:03but actually when it comes to new town planning,

0:10:03 > 0:10:05it's about as revolutionary as you can get.

0:10:05 > 0:10:08Letchworth is Britain's first garden city.

0:10:13 > 0:10:15Built at the beginning of the 20th century,

0:10:15 > 0:10:19Letchworth was one man's radical plan of how people could escape

0:10:19 > 0:10:22the slum conditions of the city.

0:10:22 > 0:10:23His name was Ebenezer Howard,

0:10:23 > 0:10:25but he was no Scrooge,

0:10:25 > 0:10:28because unlike the businessmen who built Britain's seaside towns,

0:10:28 > 0:10:32his plan wasn't to make money - oh no.

0:10:32 > 0:10:35He was interested in a full-scale social experiment.

0:10:37 > 0:10:39Now, he was so passionate about his idea,

0:10:39 > 0:10:43he's written it all down in this book and just flicking through

0:10:43 > 0:10:48his views on town hall and expenses of management, schools, sewage,

0:10:48 > 0:10:50park and roads, interest,

0:10:50 > 0:10:53all in here but one thing that really caught my eye,

0:10:53 > 0:10:56and I'm going to paraphrase it, is this.

0:10:56 > 0:11:00Human society and the beauty of nature are meant to be enjoyed together,

0:11:00 > 0:11:02as man and woman,

0:11:02 > 0:11:05by their varied gifts and faculties supplement each other,

0:11:05 > 0:11:08so should town and country.

0:11:08 > 0:11:13Beautiful words, great idea, but what's it like to actually live here?

0:11:23 > 0:11:25Well, back at the beginning,

0:11:25 > 0:11:27it certainly would have been for a particular type of person,

0:11:27 > 0:11:29that's for sure. For starters,

0:11:29 > 0:11:32pubs and inns were banned from serving alcohol to the workers.

0:11:32 > 0:11:36It built Britain's first roundabout, which is still here.

0:11:36 > 0:11:38And community allotments were established

0:11:38 > 0:11:39in the hope that people would

0:11:39 > 0:11:43become self-sufficient, producing their own food to eat and distribute.

0:11:43 > 0:11:46These are still going today.

0:11:46 > 0:11:48That's why I've arranged to meet Victoria Axel

0:11:48 > 0:11:50to tell me more about the early days of Letchworth.

0:11:50 > 0:11:53One of the key reasons they chose Letchworth is because it was part

0:11:53 > 0:11:55of the Great Northern Railway line

0:11:55 > 0:11:58and they knew that they could bring factories up from London,

0:11:58 > 0:12:00which is exactly what did happen.

0:12:00 > 0:12:03It became a very successful industrial town.

0:12:03 > 0:12:07It is very unique in terms of how it uses its finances,

0:12:07 > 0:12:10the money raised through business interest,

0:12:10 > 0:12:11farming and commercial interest

0:12:11 > 0:12:13gets ploughed back into the community,

0:12:13 > 0:12:15which makes it unique.

0:12:15 > 0:12:18I am loving the green spaces, the leafiness, the allotments,

0:12:18 > 0:12:24but as the community grows, how do you balance the countryside element?

0:12:24 > 0:12:26Howard talked about having a limit to towns so the idea

0:12:26 > 0:12:28would be that a town would grow

0:12:28 > 0:12:30and when it reached its maximum size,

0:12:30 > 0:12:34another town would be built nearby, but in the modern era,

0:12:34 > 0:12:38that has become a lot more difficult for people to reproduce.

0:12:38 > 0:12:41But it was incredibly influential and there are places that look very

0:12:41 > 0:12:44similar to Letchworth throughout the globe - you can see them in Australia,

0:12:44 > 0:12:49Finland, Germany and they all borrow an element of that garden city

0:12:49 > 0:12:52element, that you see trees,

0:12:52 > 0:12:58more space between houses and that has been amazingly successful as a town planning model.

0:12:59 > 0:13:02Letchworth might not have been originally built to make money,

0:13:02 > 0:13:04but if you wanted to live here today,

0:13:04 > 0:13:07then it would certainly cost you a pretty penny.

0:13:07 > 0:13:11The average price for a detached house is over half a million pounds,

0:13:11 > 0:13:14which I guess goes to prove that utopia comes at a price.

0:13:16 > 0:13:19What I really want to know is, what's it like to live here?

0:13:23 > 0:13:27So I'm off to meet Diane, who has been a Letchworthian for 40 years.

0:13:27 > 0:13:30Her house has been here even longer.

0:13:30 > 0:13:33In fact, it was built right at the start of this new garden city's life.

0:13:36 > 0:13:38Look at that door knocker.

0:13:38 > 0:13:39So cute!

0:13:39 > 0:13:41Hello.

0:13:41 > 0:13:43- Hello.- How are you?

0:13:43 > 0:13:46- Good, thanks.- You have a splendid-looking home, don't you?

0:13:46 > 0:13:48Thank you very much. Come on in.

0:13:48 > 0:13:49I would love to take a look.

0:13:49 > 0:13:51Thank you.

0:13:52 > 0:13:55Aww. Now, this is beautiful.

0:13:55 > 0:13:56How long have you lived here?

0:13:57 > 0:13:5925 years.

0:13:59 > 0:14:01- When was the house built? - Have a seat.

0:14:03 > 0:14:05- 1907.- It's gorgeous.

0:14:05 > 0:14:07Gorgeous. So Diane, tell me,

0:14:07 > 0:14:11why did you decide to move to Letchworth Garden City? What was the appeal?

0:14:11 > 0:14:14I just came down here for a job that I'd been told about

0:14:14 > 0:14:18and it sounded good, a teaching job in a boarding school,

0:14:18 > 0:14:20only vegetarian boarding school in the country.

0:14:20 > 0:14:23Really? That's very progressive.

0:14:23 > 0:14:24Yeah, I loved it.

0:14:24 > 0:14:27For the first three years, I was teaching there,

0:14:27 > 0:14:29I lived on the premises,

0:14:29 > 0:14:33which is why I managed to save up to buy a house, really.

0:14:33 > 0:14:36This house dates back to when Letchworth was just first in

0:14:36 > 0:14:40- development.- Yes, it was within the first ten years of it beginning.

0:14:40 > 0:14:43So, it must have been very different than.

0:14:43 > 0:14:45It must have felt really spread out.

0:14:45 > 0:14:47It still feels quite spread out.

0:14:47 > 0:14:50The initial idea was plenty of garden space

0:14:50 > 0:14:54so every single person could grow food to feed their family.

0:14:54 > 0:14:57Do you think Ebenezer Howard - and we do love that name -

0:14:57 > 0:15:00do you think he would be proud if he came back and saw what's happened

0:15:00 > 0:15:04to Letchworth since he had these creative amazing ideas?

0:15:04 > 0:15:06Yes. I think he would.

0:15:08 > 0:15:11The big contention at the moment is the green belt.

0:15:11 > 0:15:15With the modern government demands for new housing,

0:15:15 > 0:15:18there's a real danger that we might lose that green belt,

0:15:18 > 0:15:20especially in the North,

0:15:20 > 0:15:23so Ebenezer Howard would not be pleased about that.

0:15:25 > 0:15:27But I reckon he would be pretty pleased

0:15:27 > 0:15:31about how his original vision has held up here in Letchworth.

0:15:31 > 0:15:33Thanks to it, Diane and the residents

0:15:33 > 0:15:37have found their escape in a beautiful corner of the country.

0:15:37 > 0:15:40But garden cities were only ever going to accommodate a certain small

0:15:40 > 0:15:44portion of Britain's ever-growing population.

0:15:44 > 0:15:48If the chance to escape the overcrowded cities was to be expanded to all,

0:15:48 > 0:15:50then a bigger, bolder plan was needed.

0:15:50 > 0:15:53Especially in the wake of what happened next to Britain's housing.

0:15:55 > 0:15:57AIR-RAID SIREN SOUNDS

0:16:00 > 0:16:03- NEWSREEL:- The spread of fire through the narrow streets

0:16:03 > 0:16:06was helped by a strong south-west wind

0:16:06 > 0:16:09and in places, the flames raced along as fast as a man could run.

0:16:10 > 0:16:11The blitz of World War II

0:16:11 > 0:16:16destroyed more than four million homes across the whole of the country,

0:16:16 > 0:16:19from Belfast to Hull, Glasgow to Cardiff,

0:16:19 > 0:16:21and of course London.

0:16:21 > 0:16:23And yet, in its wake,

0:16:23 > 0:16:26it gave the government an opportunity to rebuild and offer an escape route

0:16:26 > 0:16:29from bomb-damaged slum-ridden cities.

0:16:29 > 0:16:34The 1946 New Towns Act allowed areas to be designated for development

0:16:34 > 0:16:39and teams of planners set about creating super-sized garden cities

0:16:39 > 0:16:41for a modern generation.

0:16:41 > 0:16:43My, this is a grand way to start the day.

0:16:43 > 0:16:46Our town was going to be a good place to work in.

0:16:46 > 0:16:48And a grand place to live in.

0:16:48 > 0:16:50With plenty of open spaces.

0:16:50 > 0:16:53Of course, there'd have to be an attractive town centre, too,

0:16:53 > 0:16:55with plenty of room for folks to meet.

0:16:55 > 0:16:57Good shops, a posh theatre, cinemas,

0:16:57 > 0:16:59a concert hall, and a Civic Centre.

0:17:04 > 0:17:06Stevenage was the first to be developed under the scheme

0:17:06 > 0:17:11and over the coming decades, 28 new towns were built all over Britain.

0:17:11 > 0:17:13We think we have much to be proud of,

0:17:13 > 0:17:17having launched the boldest single experiment in national housing to be

0:17:17 > 0:17:20undertaken anywhere on Earth since the end of the Second World War.

0:17:22 > 0:17:24It was a time of great optimism.

0:17:24 > 0:17:27It was felt if you got housing right,

0:17:27 > 0:17:29you could fix many of society's problems.

0:17:29 > 0:17:33When we first came, there were many couples setting up home,

0:17:33 > 0:17:35starting their families, and there were children everywhere.

0:17:35 > 0:17:37And the town has grown with the children.

0:17:37 > 0:17:40It is a progress, with families and the town.

0:17:45 > 0:17:48But it was the place I'm off to next on my road trip that was a real

0:17:48 > 0:17:52tipping point for new towns, not that it was a town at all.

0:17:52 > 0:17:55Oh, no, this was a new city.

0:17:55 > 0:17:58A home of your own in Milton Keynes.

0:17:58 > 0:18:00Given the green light in 1967,

0:18:00 > 0:18:02Milton Keynes' original designers

0:18:02 > 0:18:04declared proudly that no building would

0:18:04 > 0:18:07be taller than the tallest tree.

0:18:07 > 0:18:11For the moment, it's a muddy battle ground, peopled by bulldozers, graders,

0:18:11 > 0:18:14navvies, carpenters and bricklayers, but gradually,

0:18:14 > 0:18:17it will be coloured in by acres of spanking new houses and freshly

0:18:17 > 0:18:20tarmacked streets.

0:18:20 > 0:18:24One man who was here from near the start was urban planner David Locke.

0:18:24 > 0:18:28That's a nice plan for sort of Tivoli gardens of Milton Keynes

0:18:28 > 0:18:30that never quite happened.

0:18:30 > 0:18:33David was one of the men who made sure Milton Keynes

0:18:33 > 0:18:35really packed a punch.

0:18:35 > 0:18:38The one that pushes the new town idea to its ultimate limits

0:18:38 > 0:18:40is the new city of Milton Keynes.

0:18:40 > 0:18:42It's the Muhammad Ali of the new towns.

0:18:42 > 0:18:47This is the plan for Milton Keynes, which is a world-famous sort of icons.

0:18:47 > 0:18:50Of what's called a lazy grid - it isn't a gridiron,

0:18:50 > 0:18:53like you get in North America, it is following the topography.

0:18:53 > 0:18:56You've got the north-south routes,

0:18:56 > 0:18:58Watling Street, West Coast main line,

0:18:58 > 0:19:02Grand Union Canal, M1, and they stitched them across,

0:19:02 > 0:19:06so these are city roads but they are also wide enough to take trams,

0:19:06 > 0:19:09so if some future generation ever want to put one in,

0:19:09 > 0:19:11they've got all the main services down there.

0:19:11 > 0:19:14Also, there was room to put planting

0:19:14 > 0:19:18to keep the noise of traffic and air pollution out of where people live.

0:19:18 > 0:19:20So the purples are factories, aren't they?

0:19:20 > 0:19:21All spread out.

0:19:21 > 0:19:23Yeah. The employment is spread all over the city,

0:19:23 > 0:19:27so that there's no rush to work in the morning and a rush home at night.

0:19:28 > 0:19:32But the planners of Milton Keynes weren't just concerned with the day-to-day running of things,

0:19:32 > 0:19:35they also had their sights set on the future.

0:19:35 > 0:19:37It calls itself the first new city.

0:19:37 > 0:19:39It's got everything going for it,

0:19:39 > 0:19:42from Coca-Cola and Volkswagen to the Open University.

0:19:42 > 0:19:45There's even talk of having the Olympic Games before long.

0:19:45 > 0:19:50The spirit that was very carefully engendered was that we were all in this together.

0:19:50 > 0:19:52We were all in Milton Keynes.

0:19:52 > 0:19:55It was a book to be written and we were part of the writing of the book.

0:19:55 > 0:19:58There must have been such a sense of pride.

0:19:58 > 0:20:02Every week, a new thing would happen, a new thing would open,

0:20:02 > 0:20:05and it was often the biggest or the latest or the shiniest,

0:20:05 > 0:20:08the first snow dome, the first multiplex cinema,

0:20:08 > 0:20:12the first McDonald's outside London, whatever it was, you see,

0:20:12 > 0:20:15and our concert bowl, the red balloon adverts on TV,

0:20:15 > 0:20:16this was all part of this sense

0:20:16 > 0:20:19that we were actually making something very, very special.

0:20:22 > 0:20:24I so remember these ads.

0:20:24 > 0:20:29Three, two, one.

0:20:33 > 0:20:37Wouldn't it be nice if all cities were like Milton Keynes?

0:20:38 > 0:20:42MUSIC: 2-4-6-8 Motorway by the Tom Robinson Band

0:20:44 > 0:20:47After finding out some of the theory,

0:20:47 > 0:20:49I'm off to see how this new town has worked in practice,

0:20:49 > 0:20:53so I'm getting a tour with early resident pioneer Lee Scriven.

0:20:53 > 0:20:56Can I just say, I don't know whether I'm going north, south, east...?

0:20:56 > 0:20:58- Go right.- I have no...

0:20:58 > 0:21:00Yeah, you can get lost. Even I get lost.

0:21:00 > 0:21:02- "Go left at the roundabout." Which one?- Yeah, yeah.

0:21:04 > 0:21:07Lee moved here as a teenager in 1974.

0:21:07 > 0:21:10More than 40 years later, his family are still here.

0:21:10 > 0:21:14# And it's 2-4-6-8, ain't never too late

0:21:15 > 0:21:19# Me and my radio truckin' on through the night... #

0:21:19 > 0:21:21So, Lee, what age were you when you moved to Milton Keynes?

0:21:21 > 0:21:2614. I actually moved in the week of my birthday.

0:21:26 > 0:21:28- Did you?- I was quite excited...

0:21:28 > 0:21:32- Were you?- Yeah, I was actually going to be moving to this space-age city,

0:21:32 > 0:21:37you know. You may recall at the time, you had Space 1999 on the telly,

0:21:37 > 0:21:41Thunderbirds and Joe 90, and you really felt you were moving to a Gerry...

0:21:41 > 0:21:43To a town built by Gerry Anderson.

0:21:43 > 0:21:45You know, it was really exciting.

0:21:45 > 0:21:49But it came as a bit of a shock when we finally got here in 1974,

0:21:49 > 0:21:54I'd made it to Milton Keynes but Milton Keynes hadn't been made.

0:21:54 > 0:21:56No! There was hardly anything here?

0:21:56 > 0:22:00When we came here, them trees were about three foot to four foot high,

0:22:00 > 0:22:02so it was just...

0:22:02 > 0:22:04You did see everything and there was nothing really to see,

0:22:04 > 0:22:08other than dust, mud of a building site, or farmland.

0:22:08 > 0:22:12Compared to, you know, people have gone it's like the old Wild West,

0:22:12 > 0:22:16frontier town, but believe me, in the early '70s, it really was.

0:22:16 > 0:22:20There was dust... There was tumbleweeds going down the road because there

0:22:20 > 0:22:22was nothing else, you know?

0:22:22 > 0:22:24This road we are calling up now, left or right, basically,

0:22:24 > 0:22:26it all went up within a five-year period.

0:22:26 > 0:22:29- Did they?- And that's a lot of houses.

0:22:29 > 0:22:32And it wasn't just houses they were building up this time.

0:22:32 > 0:22:36No, they were revolutionising how we shopped too.

0:22:36 > 0:22:39So, this is the city centre that we are coming through.

0:22:39 > 0:22:44- Is it?- And this was the most important building really in Milton Keynes' history.

0:22:44 > 0:22:46Sounds a bit sad that a shopping mall, as it is now,

0:22:46 > 0:22:49would be one of the most important buildings...

0:22:49 > 0:22:50- It's all glass.- Yeah,

0:22:50 > 0:22:52I think it's quite beautiful actually

0:22:52 > 0:22:54but people might find that a bit sad.

0:22:54 > 0:22:57But I actually love it, I love the steel and the glass.

0:22:57 > 0:22:58Once that place opened,

0:22:58 > 0:23:01you really felt that you'd moved to that space-age city.

0:23:01 > 0:23:05Milton Keynes had something that nowhere else had got and boy,

0:23:05 > 0:23:06did the locals like that.

0:23:09 > 0:23:14Centre MK was opened in 1979 by newly-elected Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher.

0:23:14 > 0:23:18It was designed to be a complete town centre under one roof

0:23:18 > 0:23:22with 130 shops and six department stores.

0:23:22 > 0:23:26Today, of course, all British towns have supersized malls like this,

0:23:26 > 0:23:28but Milton Keynes broke the mould.

0:23:29 > 0:23:32In the years since Lee and his family arrived here,

0:23:32 > 0:23:37Milton Keynes has grown to the size of a city with a population of over a quarter of a million.

0:23:37 > 0:23:39But for those early pioneers,

0:23:39 > 0:23:42it must have been a giant leap of faith moving here,

0:23:42 > 0:23:47with little more to welcome them than a gift from the development corporation.

0:23:47 > 0:23:48The corporation give a tree voucher

0:23:48 > 0:23:50to all new tenants when they move in, all right?

0:23:50 > 0:23:54Take it along to any of the garden centres that are listed...

0:23:54 > 0:23:56Suppose we wanted two, do we get another voucher?

0:23:56 > 0:24:00No, you don't. I'm afraid, it's one voucher per house.

0:24:00 > 0:24:03New job, new home, new life.

0:24:04 > 0:24:06Lee's family also got a tree

0:24:06 > 0:24:10and it's still in the back garden of his mum's house.

0:24:10 > 0:24:13Well, Elsie and Lee, you must have been one of the first families

0:24:13 > 0:24:15to move in here in Milton Keynes.

0:24:15 > 0:24:17What year did you buy this house?

0:24:17 > 0:24:21- 1974.- '74, and can I be a bit cheeky?

0:24:21 > 0:24:23Can you remember what you paid for it?

0:24:23 > 0:24:26- This house?- Yeah.- It was 12,500.

0:24:26 > 0:24:29And what did you sell the one in Walthamstow for?

0:24:29 > 0:24:32- 10,000.- So, it was quite a bit more, wasn't it?

0:24:32 > 0:24:33Do you know what this might be worth now?

0:24:33 > 0:24:37We think it might be in the region of 240, 250.

0:24:37 > 0:24:39And Walthamstow?

0:24:39 > 0:24:42About 450, 500.

0:24:42 > 0:24:44I bet that caught in the back of your throat, didn't it?

0:24:44 > 0:24:46But think how many happy years you've had here.

0:24:46 > 0:24:48I have no regrets about that.

0:24:48 > 0:24:51Worth remembering what we were moving from.

0:24:51 > 0:24:53The house was damp, it was cold, it was old,

0:24:53 > 0:24:55and I don't think my mum will mind,

0:24:55 > 0:24:59there was rats at times and it was London.

0:24:59 > 0:25:01We were working-class people and to be able to move into a house like

0:25:01 > 0:25:04this, with central heating, showers, baths, I mean...

0:25:05 > 0:25:07It was, you know, pretty phenomenal.

0:25:07 > 0:25:10And even at the age of 14, I found it quite exciting.

0:25:10 > 0:25:14Obviously, the early days, it wasn't what you expected,

0:25:14 > 0:25:17but did you ever consider going back to London?

0:25:17 > 0:25:19No, never. Never. Never thought of moving back.

0:25:19 > 0:25:21- You just knew?- No, no going back.

0:25:21 > 0:25:23I don't think many... I don't know about you.

0:25:23 > 0:25:25- No, I never thought it, no. - And in the street,

0:25:25 > 0:25:28I've got many friends and neighbours,

0:25:28 > 0:25:30which is one of the reasons I sort of don't want to move

0:25:30 > 0:25:32because I'm very close friends with several of them...

0:25:32 > 0:25:35And in fact every week on a Thursday night,

0:25:35 > 0:25:38about eight of us meet in someone's house.

0:25:38 > 0:25:42Years ago, we used to do keep fit but we don't do that any more.

0:25:43 > 0:25:47My mother's generation and perhaps my generation combined,

0:25:47 > 0:25:49that made Milton Keynes.

0:25:49 > 0:25:52- Yeah.- You know, the architects laid the foundation,

0:25:52 > 0:25:54but the residents made Milton Keynes what it is today.

0:25:57 > 0:25:59OK, confession time.

0:25:59 > 0:26:03I'm in two minds about Milton Keynes, if I'm totally honest.

0:26:03 > 0:26:04Unlike Herne Bay or Letchworth,

0:26:04 > 0:26:07the emphasis of this 1960s new town planning

0:26:07 > 0:26:12was on the super-sized and futuristic, rather than the small and nostalgic.

0:26:12 > 0:26:14Yes, trees and parks soften edges

0:26:14 > 0:26:18but they are as much about hiding concrete as getting residents back to nature.

0:26:18 > 0:26:21By the 1980s, others were thinking this too,

0:26:21 > 0:26:24including one rather special VIP

0:26:24 > 0:26:27with an interest in architecture

0:26:27 > 0:26:30and he wasn't afraid of speaking his mind.

0:26:30 > 0:26:33We've got so used over the last 40 or 50 years to looking at planning

0:26:33 > 0:26:37and building and design, local urban design, in one particular way.

0:26:37 > 0:26:41Like, you only build housing estates, which always have cul-de-sacs.

0:26:41 > 0:26:45The point I feel we ought to re-examine again...

0:26:47 > 0:26:50..is how to design on a traditional basis again.

0:26:50 > 0:26:54MUSIC: Just Can't Get Enough by Depeche Mode

0:26:54 > 0:26:58Prince Charles' vision of a community fit for the 21st century

0:26:58 > 0:27:03is Poundbury. Built on 250 acres of Duchy farmland on the outskirts of

0:27:03 > 0:27:07Dorchester, it's currently home to over 3,000 people.

0:27:07 > 0:27:09Now, the houses may look like they are from the good old days

0:27:09 > 0:27:14but they've actually all been built within the last 25 years.

0:27:14 > 0:27:15Prince Charles was busy,

0:27:15 > 0:27:18so my tour guide is a leading figure of Poundbury's Resident Association,

0:27:18 > 0:27:20Fran Leaper.

0:27:20 > 0:27:22Fran, lovely to meet you.

0:27:22 > 0:27:24Hello, Nicki, and welcome to Poundbury.

0:27:24 > 0:27:26This is my first time.

0:27:26 > 0:27:29And first impressions are impressive.

0:27:29 > 0:27:31I wasn't expecting to see a building like that.

0:27:31 > 0:27:33It looks like it could be in Vienna.

0:27:33 > 0:27:35It is gorgeous, isn't it?

0:27:35 > 0:27:39We love the yellow and actually in the evening sun, it lights up.

0:27:39 > 0:27:42It's illuminated.

0:27:42 > 0:27:45It is impressive, it's on such a large scale,

0:27:45 > 0:27:49it comes across as being very grand as well.

0:27:49 > 0:27:51This is the centre of Poundbury, so this is grand.

0:27:51 > 0:27:56Beyond it, and moving out to the north and the east,

0:27:56 > 0:28:00you will have smaller-scale dwellings and indeed,

0:28:00 > 0:28:01some of them will be village scale.

0:28:01 > 0:28:03In fact, one of them planned...

0:28:03 > 0:28:05There's a small development of thatched houses.

0:28:07 > 0:28:11If Milton Keynes was offering people an escape into the future,

0:28:11 > 0:28:13then there is no doubt about it,

0:28:13 > 0:28:16Poundbury lets them escape into the past.

0:28:16 > 0:28:21These are great. Every single property to me looks different.

0:28:21 > 0:28:24- They are different. - Look how clean everywhere is.

0:28:24 > 0:28:25I'm pleased you think so.

0:28:25 > 0:28:28- Yeah.- Because people are passionate about making sure there's no litter.

0:28:29 > 0:28:32So, Fran, what kind of person lives here?

0:28:32 > 0:28:36We have a reputation in some places of being the toffs on the hill,

0:28:36 > 0:28:40would you believe? But all sorts of people live here.

0:28:40 > 0:28:43There's not only private houses and apartments,

0:28:43 > 0:28:49there's a 35% of a mixture of social, which is subsidised housing,

0:28:49 > 0:28:51and affordable housing,

0:28:51 > 0:28:54which is a lot of shared ownership schemes coming up as well.

0:28:54 > 0:28:59And along this road, you see examples of that very clearly.

0:28:59 > 0:29:02But you cannot spot the difference.

0:29:02 > 0:29:05- No.- The whole point of Poundbury is it's pepper-potted

0:29:05 > 0:29:08and the building standard is just the same.

0:29:08 > 0:29:12So everybody is delighted at being here, from the build quality,

0:29:12 > 0:29:13it's really, really super.

0:29:14 > 0:29:18It seems Prince Charles might have pulled it off.

0:29:18 > 0:29:1925 years ago...

0:29:20 > 0:29:22..all this was a mere dream.

0:29:23 > 0:29:27To most people, a completely mad dream.

0:29:28 > 0:29:33Houses here get snapped up with an average price of £310,000.

0:29:33 > 0:29:37But living under royal approval does have consequences.

0:29:37 > 0:29:40It's not every one that can say Prince Charles is their landlord.

0:29:40 > 0:29:41This is very true.

0:29:41 > 0:29:43Poundbury is unique.

0:29:43 > 0:29:44It is. It is.

0:29:44 > 0:29:48Now, I'm sure there's some myths and rules that are attached to it.

0:29:48 > 0:29:49Would I be allowed to live here?

0:29:49 > 0:29:51- Even you, Nicki.- Even me.

0:29:51 > 0:29:53So, what's this?

0:29:53 > 0:29:56This is a little booklet to tell people about some of the myths,

0:29:56 > 0:29:59remind them of the rules, and about living in Poundbury.

0:29:59 > 0:30:02Can I have a look? So, where are the rules?

0:30:02 > 0:30:05They are in the back. There are 17 stipulations.

0:30:05 > 0:30:07- Oh, here we go.- Which everybody signed up to.

0:30:07 > 0:30:10I like number one. Not without the consent of his Royal Highness

0:30:10 > 0:30:13to paint or decorate the exterior of the property,

0:30:13 > 0:30:17otherwise than in the same colour or colours as the property here

0:30:17 > 0:30:18previously painted.

0:30:18 > 0:30:20So, no pink door, then?

0:30:20 > 0:30:22Surprisingly, there is one.

0:30:22 > 0:30:24- Oh, is there?- Yes.

0:30:24 > 0:30:27Yes, the idea is that your new house

0:30:27 > 0:30:30is part of a palette of colours and

0:30:30 > 0:30:32you should ask permission before you paint your front door.

0:30:32 > 0:30:34But people have varied it slightly

0:30:34 > 0:30:36and so long as it's tasteful, it's OK.

0:30:36 > 0:30:37- We don't mind.- Even a pink door.

0:30:37 > 0:30:38How about this one?

0:30:38 > 0:30:40I'm not allowed... Oh, this is good.

0:30:40 > 0:30:43I'm not allowed to hang my washing out in my back garden.

0:30:43 > 0:30:45I never know where this idea came from,

0:30:45 > 0:30:47but a lot of people seem to think

0:30:47 > 0:30:50you are not allowed to put a washing line out. Of course you can.

0:30:50 > 0:30:53We are very practical, and there is even an aerial picture

0:30:53 > 0:30:56showing somebody with some washing out.

0:30:56 > 0:30:58Myth... Myth busted.

0:30:58 > 0:31:00- Myth busted, totally.- Myth busted.

0:31:00 > 0:31:02Satellite dishes, that's an interesting one.

0:31:02 > 0:31:03FRAN INHALES SHARPLY

0:31:03 > 0:31:06- I've touched a nerve. - Absolutely not.

0:31:06 > 0:31:08- No?- No satellite dishes at all.

0:31:08 > 0:31:11Because of maintaining the...

0:31:11 > 0:31:14- Look. - The look of the public realm.

0:31:14 > 0:31:18You are so passionate about Poundbury, you must love living here.

0:31:18 > 0:31:20I do love living here.

0:31:20 > 0:31:22It's a fantastic community.

0:31:22 > 0:31:25I'm the happiest I've been in my whole life, since I've come to live here.

0:31:25 > 0:31:27It's a lovely, lovely community.

0:31:27 > 0:31:30I mean, it has been so beautifully designed,

0:31:30 > 0:31:32but it's also got to be about the people.

0:31:32 > 0:31:37It is, but the people wouldn't have come if it hadn't been such a beautiful design.

0:31:38 > 0:31:39'OK, well, let's meet'

0:31:39 > 0:31:41some of those people.

0:31:41 > 0:31:45I've decided to put in a shift at the local cafe, the Engine Room.

0:31:45 > 0:31:47You need to put that underneath there...

0:31:47 > 0:31:49'But before serving anyone, however,

0:31:49 > 0:31:52'I'd better learn how to make a posh coffee.'

0:31:52 > 0:31:54- And then a bit of froth?- That's it.

0:31:54 > 0:31:57'Something tells me that what they drink around here.'

0:31:57 > 0:32:02Trying to do an artistic design, but it's not really working.

0:32:02 > 0:32:05You know what, perhaps I'll just stick to cleaning tables.

0:32:05 > 0:32:10Not bad for a first attempt, but I think I know my limitations.

0:32:10 > 0:32:12BELL PINGS

0:32:16 > 0:32:20'Right, time to meet the punters and find out more about the town

0:32:20 > 0:32:21'created by royalty.'

0:32:21 > 0:32:24Did the little one enjoy it?

0:32:24 > 0:32:26Yeah, look at that smiley face.

0:32:26 > 0:32:30So, Kelly, what's it like as a young person living here in Poundbury?

0:32:30 > 0:32:32I've just graduated from university,

0:32:32 > 0:32:34so I been living in Plymouth for the last three years,

0:32:34 > 0:32:36so it's very much a change.

0:32:36 > 0:32:38Poundbury is very quiet.

0:32:38 > 0:32:40It's a very nice place, but for a 21-year-old,

0:32:40 > 0:32:42there's not much to do here.

0:32:42 > 0:32:44- There we are.- Thank you very much.

0:32:44 > 0:32:48Did it ever go through your mind or concern you that because it is

0:32:48 > 0:32:51a new area, a new-build, there wouldn't be that community feel?

0:32:51 > 0:32:53We were invited for drinks, weren't we?

0:32:53 > 0:32:56As soon as we... As soon as we moved into our square,

0:32:56 > 0:32:59we had a little thing through the door from people who had been there

0:32:59 > 0:33:03recently and said come and join us, so there is a community spirit.

0:33:03 > 0:33:06We haven't looked at it at any time and said we would want to live

0:33:06 > 0:33:08anywhere else. We are really happy here.

0:33:08 > 0:33:10I've got some puddings here.

0:33:10 > 0:33:12- Here we go.- That's mine. - That one's yours. OK.

0:33:12 > 0:33:13And then we have the honeycomb here.

0:33:13 > 0:33:16Who is honeycomb? So, who are locals, who is residents here?

0:33:16 > 0:33:18- We are.- We live in Poundbury.

0:33:18 > 0:33:20We are convincing them later as well.

0:33:20 > 0:33:23- Are you? And how long have you lived here?- 16 months.

0:33:23 > 0:33:27- So, new residents.- Well, most people are, aren't they, really?

0:33:27 > 0:33:31You could be here for ever and there is a cemetery the other side.

0:33:31 > 0:33:33You know, it's just...

0:33:33 > 0:33:37And I'd love to come back in 100 years' time and I think this whole vision

0:33:37 > 0:33:39will have worked out.

0:33:39 > 0:33:40Right, here's your tea.

0:33:40 > 0:33:42Hello, boys.

0:33:42 > 0:33:43- Hello.- Hello.

0:33:43 > 0:33:44Do you live locally?

0:33:44 > 0:33:45Do you live in Poundbury?

0:33:45 > 0:33:47Do you? With mummy?

0:33:47 > 0:33:49How long has mummy been living here then?

0:33:49 > 0:33:51We've lived here four and a half years now.

0:33:51 > 0:33:52I see a lot of elderly,

0:33:52 > 0:33:55but are there plenty of young families in the area?

0:33:55 > 0:33:58Yeah, I think it's great. I mean, when I came here, I joined a mums' group.

0:33:58 > 0:34:00I now help run the mums' group.

0:34:00 > 0:34:03And every week, we have two or three new families moving in.

0:34:03 > 0:34:05Local schools are on our doorstep.

0:34:05 > 0:34:07And just really friendly, really.

0:34:07 > 0:34:09Really nice place. Lovely neighbours.

0:34:09 > 0:34:12Parks. So, for us, it works really well.

0:34:14 > 0:34:17MUSIC: 2-4-6-8 Mororway by the Tom Robinson Band

0:34:19 > 0:34:22I have to be honest, when I was thinking about new towns,

0:34:22 > 0:34:25I probably was a little bit... A little bit sniffy about them.

0:34:25 > 0:34:29My idea, my preconceived idea, was they were going to be quite clinical,

0:34:29 > 0:34:32quite cold, everything thought out,

0:34:32 > 0:34:34but was there going to be any heart,

0:34:34 > 0:34:36any soul of the community?

0:34:36 > 0:34:41And in actual fact, driving around and experiencing them first-hand,

0:34:41 > 0:34:43I am impressed.

0:34:43 > 0:34:44Lush, green.

0:34:44 > 0:34:47People really embrace where they live.

0:34:47 > 0:34:50They are very proud and let's all be honest,

0:34:50 > 0:34:53we all want a little bit of Utopia, don't we?

0:34:53 > 0:34:56MUSIC: Rocks by Primal Scream

0:35:04 > 0:35:06So, what's the future of new towns?

0:35:06 > 0:35:10Do they still offer that vision of escape or have they had their day?

0:35:10 > 0:35:13Well, the answer to that is "absolutely not".

0:35:13 > 0:35:17Because a brand-new garden city, the first in over 100 years,

0:35:17 > 0:35:19is currently being constructed.

0:35:19 > 0:35:21It's called Ebbsfleet.

0:35:21 > 0:35:22Now, there's not much to look at

0:35:22 > 0:35:26at the moment but the government has high hopes for this place

0:35:26 > 0:35:29as the model for a new type of new town.

0:35:29 > 0:35:33To find out more, I'm meeting Kevin McGeough and Paul Spooner,

0:35:33 > 0:35:36two of the men in charge of building this new new town.

0:35:36 > 0:35:40They've invited me to the top of Ebbsfleet Observatory

0:35:40 > 0:35:42and I have to say, it provides a commanding view

0:35:42 > 0:35:45of a new town rising from the quarries that

0:35:45 > 0:35:47used to be here.

0:35:47 > 0:35:49This is incredible.

0:35:49 > 0:35:52I didn't realise just quite how large the whole site is.

0:35:52 > 0:35:55It is the most impressive view,

0:35:55 > 0:35:59the birth, the start of a new town.

0:35:59 > 0:36:00So, in the UK over the last 250 years,

0:36:00 > 0:36:03we've delivered some of the best new places in the world,

0:36:03 > 0:36:06in terms of planning new communities and also some of the less successful places.

0:36:06 > 0:36:09So, our job here at Ebbsfleet Garden City is to make sure we make

0:36:09 > 0:36:11the best of the really good examples

0:36:11 > 0:36:13in the UK and avoid some of the lessons of the worst.

0:36:13 > 0:36:15It is a large area.

0:36:15 > 0:36:18I mean, it's going to take 15,000 homes when it's completed.

0:36:18 > 0:36:20That's around 40,000 people.

0:36:20 > 0:36:23But if you look out there, you can see all the diggers on the site now,

0:36:23 > 0:36:25we've got a range of houses being built.

0:36:25 > 0:36:27In the far distance, a local housing association

0:36:27 > 0:36:29is building affordable homes,

0:36:29 > 0:36:31so those are homes that are shared ownership,

0:36:31 > 0:36:35so if you have the ability to get a mortgage of about £100,000,

0:36:35 > 0:36:37you can buy a share, a major share in that property

0:36:37 > 0:36:40and you can actually get on the housing ladder in the garden city.

0:36:40 > 0:36:43But I suppose in a way, it's getting the balance right, you know,

0:36:43 > 0:36:45making sure the developers,

0:36:45 > 0:36:48who are going to want to build as many homes as possible,

0:36:48 > 0:36:50but balancing that with somewhere that people want to live.

0:36:50 > 0:36:54Well, I think the important thing really is about having the quality green space,

0:36:54 > 0:36:57so within the new garden city, we are going to have seven new city parks.

0:36:57 > 0:37:02You can see just in the distance here is what will become the new city park, a massive park,

0:37:02 > 0:37:04similar to Primrose Hill in London,

0:37:04 > 0:37:06we almost see it as Central Park in New York.

0:37:06 > 0:37:09So, what we are talking about here is having a city in a garden.

0:37:09 > 0:37:13The similarities to both Herne Bay and old garden cities goes further.

0:37:13 > 0:37:16As we've seen, they promised people the chance to escape

0:37:16 > 0:37:18to a healthier place.

0:37:18 > 0:37:22Well, Ebbsfleet has a twist on that same idea.

0:37:22 > 0:37:25So, the NHS have come up with a new programme called the healthy new towns.

0:37:25 > 0:37:27There are going to be ten pilots across the country.

0:37:27 > 0:37:29And from those ten pilots, they want to learn about, you know,

0:37:29 > 0:37:32what can we rethink a place, what can it be like to live here,

0:37:32 > 0:37:35can we encourage people to have healthier lifestyles,

0:37:35 > 0:37:36can we deliver health in a different way?

0:37:36 > 0:37:39So, we are going to provide new tram-like buses that connect up

0:37:39 > 0:37:41different parts of the garden city

0:37:41 > 0:37:42and encourage people to take the bus,

0:37:42 > 0:37:45rather than getting their cars. To walk to the station,

0:37:45 > 0:37:47to cycle down beautiful new green corridors we are creating.

0:37:47 > 0:37:50So, we are creating a place that is going to encourage that healthy living

0:37:50 > 0:37:52but also discourage people from using the car.

0:37:52 > 0:37:55Kevin, you are going to change people's lives, aren't you?

0:37:55 > 0:37:57You are going to change the way they live their lives.

0:37:57 > 0:37:59Are you feeling the pressure?

0:37:59 > 0:38:01Do you have a sense of pride that you're involved with it?

0:38:01 > 0:38:06Fantastically. I grew up in one of the last new towns, Craigavon in Northern Ireland,

0:38:06 > 0:38:08and to have 50 years later an opportunity to help

0:38:08 > 0:38:11build and shape a new place, Ebbsfleet garden city,

0:38:11 > 0:38:13is to me the best job I could possibly have anywhere.

0:38:13 > 0:38:15It's what I've always wanted to do.

0:38:15 > 0:38:17It's a great opportunity and I want to make sure we make the most of it.

0:38:17 > 0:38:20The exciting thing is to create the momentum around housing that we need

0:38:20 > 0:38:24in this country but a really affordable mixed range of housing here for

0:38:24 > 0:38:27everybody and secondly, to work on the whole place,

0:38:27 > 0:38:29to create something that is really special.

0:38:33 > 0:38:36I'm encouraged by the talk at Ebbsfleet.

0:38:36 > 0:38:40It seems the vision of what created places like Letchworth, Milton Keynes,

0:38:40 > 0:38:42and Poundbury are safe in the hands

0:38:42 > 0:38:45of those building new towns in the future.

0:38:45 > 0:38:46A lot has changed, of course.

0:38:46 > 0:38:48The plans have become bigger,

0:38:48 > 0:38:53more ambitious and more comprehensive than those I saw in my hometown.

0:38:54 > 0:38:57And sometimes, they have come with rules that I certainly wouldn't be

0:38:57 > 0:39:01happy with. Not to mention all those roundabouts.

0:39:01 > 0:39:03Which one?

0:39:03 > 0:39:06But what unites the people I've met living in these towns is that they

0:39:06 > 0:39:11have all provided that sense of escape to a healthier and, I think, happier

0:39:11 > 0:39:12way of life.

0:39:12 > 0:39:16Sometimes of course you have to pay for it and so I'm ending my journey

0:39:16 > 0:39:19doing something I never tire of,

0:39:19 > 0:39:21getting shown round a fancy pad.

0:39:21 > 0:39:25And it's back where I started, on the seafront of Herne Bay.

0:39:25 > 0:39:29Giving me his sales patter is local estate agent Kieron Whiting.

0:39:30 > 0:39:31I'm so keen.

0:39:33 > 0:39:34It's lovely, isn't it?

0:39:35 > 0:39:36Come on through.

0:39:38 > 0:39:41Now, that is what I call a view.

0:39:41 > 0:39:44Yeah, it certainly grabs you as soon as you walk in through the door.

0:39:44 > 0:39:45It's a lovely site.

0:39:45 > 0:39:47You actually completely forget about your accommodation.

0:39:47 > 0:39:50That's the beauty of it. Ultimately, that is what you are paying for,

0:39:50 > 0:39:54- isn't it?- Open-plan living, which isn't the norm in Herne Bay, is it?

0:39:54 > 0:39:56No, it's certainly a more modern approach to living

0:39:56 > 0:39:58but certainly more popular now.

0:39:58 > 0:40:01Particularly in properties like this is where you want to

0:40:01 > 0:40:04maximise the view and also the light and airy accommodation,

0:40:04 > 0:40:07you are not going to get that in a standard Herne Bay property.

0:40:07 > 0:40:08This is really one of a kind.

0:40:08 > 0:40:10Yeah.

0:40:12 > 0:40:13Time for the tour.

0:40:16 > 0:40:17OK, here we have the master suite.

0:40:18 > 0:40:20Again, bifolding doors.

0:40:20 > 0:40:23This is lovely. This is just like a second living room, in my opinion.

0:40:23 > 0:40:26South-facing, so it's going to literally bask in sunshine throughout the day.

0:40:26 > 0:40:28- It's lovely. - Kieron, this is like role reversal.

0:40:28 > 0:40:30You're taking me round,

0:40:30 > 0:40:32rather than me taking you on showing you the houses.

0:40:32 > 0:40:35It feels odd but I'm liking it. I'm liking it being on this site.

0:40:35 > 0:40:37'Well, that's the tour over.

0:40:37 > 0:40:40'Now for the bit you've all been waiting for.'

0:40:40 > 0:40:42How much is this apartment on the market for?

0:40:42 > 0:40:46This penthouse apartment is on the market for £495,000.

0:40:46 > 0:40:48Is it? Just shy of half a million.

0:40:48 > 0:40:50That's quite a lot of money.

0:40:50 > 0:40:52So, how much would an average house be here?

0:40:53 > 0:41:00Average house, terms of your typical 1930s three-bed semi, around 275, 300.

0:41:00 > 0:41:02That's really good to hear.

0:41:02 > 0:41:04Do people want to live in a seaside town all over again?

0:41:04 > 0:41:07Definitely so. The market is incredibly buoyant at the moment.

0:41:07 > 0:41:10- Is it?- Particularly over the last 18 months to two years.

0:41:10 > 0:41:13So, Kieron, if I could build eight of these along the seafront,

0:41:13 > 0:41:15would you be able to sell them tomorrow?

0:41:15 > 0:41:17Yes, I would be your best friend.

0:41:17 > 0:41:19Would you?

0:41:22 > 0:41:27This home is just so different from where I was brought up but in a way,

0:41:27 > 0:41:28that's what you need.

0:41:28 > 0:41:32You need towns to keep evolving with each generation,

0:41:32 > 0:41:35looking forward rather than always looking back.

0:41:40 > 0:41:41But you know what?

0:41:41 > 0:41:45Sometimes it's also good to get nostalgic, so before I go,

0:41:45 > 0:41:47I've asked my best friend Krista

0:41:47 > 0:41:49and my big sister Shelley to meet me on the promenade.

0:41:49 > 0:41:51I have a little surprise in store

0:41:51 > 0:41:54that should bring the memories flooding back.

0:41:55 > 0:41:58Right, girls. Fancy a quick roller-skate?

0:41:58 > 0:42:01The pavilion is not even there any more.

0:42:01 > 0:42:03- What's wrong with this? - You're kidding.

0:42:03 > 0:42:06Yeah. How many years since we last roller-skated?

0:42:06 > 0:42:0830? Are you up for the challenge?

0:42:08 > 0:42:11- Yeah.- I don't think I've got much in the way of balance.

0:42:11 > 0:42:12No, I'll be straight off.

0:42:12 > 0:42:13Right. Try those.

0:42:13 > 0:42:14Thank you.

0:42:19 > 0:42:23- Come on then.- Oh, no. - We are going to have fun, aren't we?

0:42:23 > 0:42:25Was this your idea, Nicki?

0:42:25 > 0:42:28Yeah. Thought it be nice to reminisce down memory lane.

0:42:28 > 0:42:30I feel like the Terminator.

0:42:31 > 0:42:34All the gear, no idea.

0:42:34 > 0:42:38Come on, then.

0:42:38 > 0:42:42MUSIC: Modern Girl by Sheena Easton

0:42:42 > 0:42:45This is going to be a long skate, isn't it?

0:42:45 > 0:42:47This way? Hold on to me. Ready?

0:42:47 > 0:42:53'Memories might be flooding back but the legs are definitely rusty.'

0:42:53 > 0:42:55Oh, look, I've got the railing.

0:42:57 > 0:43:00Look, I can do it.

0:43:00 > 0:43:03'You know, looking at new towns has made me look deeper into what really

0:43:03 > 0:43:06'matters to me about Herne Bay and it's this -

0:43:06 > 0:43:08'towns are made by people

0:43:08 > 0:43:12'and as long as planners remember that, we'll be OK.'

0:43:12 > 0:43:13THEY CHEER