0:00:03 > 0:00:07Football fever is gripping this country.
0:00:12 > 0:00:15The World Cup is coming to South Africa because of one man.
0:00:15 > 0:00:19A man who stands for peace, equality and freedom.
0:00:19 > 0:00:22That man is Nelson Mandela.
0:00:22 > 0:00:24I've come here to South Africa
0:00:24 > 0:00:27to find out how he's transformed this country
0:00:27 > 0:00:30from international villain to a global superstar player.
0:00:32 > 0:00:33How did he do it?
0:00:33 > 0:00:37And what can Nelson Mandela's life tell me about being human?
0:00:37 > 0:00:41OVER PA: Nelson Mandela!
0:00:41 > 0:00:44For me and millions of people across the globe,
0:00:44 > 0:00:47Nelson Mandela is the greatest man alive.
0:00:47 > 0:00:52Where human beings are being oppressed,
0:00:52 > 0:00:55there is more work to be done.
0:00:55 > 0:00:58It is in your hands now.
0:00:58 > 0:01:02Everyone, including the most famous celebrities,
0:01:02 > 0:01:05want to get close to him.
0:01:05 > 0:01:09But what did Mandela do to get such an incredible following?
0:01:12 > 0:01:15I'm travelling across South Africa
0:01:15 > 0:01:17to unlock the secret behind the Mandela legend
0:01:20 > 0:01:23and to find out how he transformed this beautiful country.
0:01:25 > 0:01:29- CHANTING - 'Along the way, I try and score on the rugby field...'
0:01:30 > 0:01:32Yeah, woo!
0:01:32 > 0:01:37'..witness a raid on one of the world's most dangerous streets.'
0:01:37 > 0:01:38There's a lot of guns.
0:01:39 > 0:01:42'I get up close with some of the junior Mandelas.'
0:01:42 > 0:01:47My grandfather definitely was the strictest grandfather in the world.
0:01:47 > 0:01:51'And even meet people who've found love because of him.'
0:01:51 > 0:01:53Awww!
0:02:07 > 0:02:11'I'm Lenora Crichlow and my other life is an afterlife.
0:02:11 > 0:02:14'I play Annie, the ghost in Being Human.'
0:02:14 > 0:02:16I...I have to go.
0:02:17 > 0:02:19It's lovely to see you.
0:02:19 > 0:02:24'But when I was growing up here in west London, there was another man,
0:02:24 > 0:02:27'apart from my dad of course, who played a big part in my life.
0:02:27 > 0:02:29'That man was Nelson Mandela.'
0:02:29 > 0:02:30Thank you very much.
0:02:30 > 0:02:33My mother's a teacher, so everything was laminated.
0:02:33 > 0:02:35So we had this huge laminated poster
0:02:35 > 0:02:38in my house of Nelson Mandela and quotes
0:02:38 > 0:02:42and it had this picture of him, kind of coming out of the sky.
0:02:42 > 0:02:45There was a few pictures of us as children,
0:02:45 > 0:02:48but mostly it was these kind of inspirational quotes.
0:02:50 > 0:02:52Oh, don't! Don't!
0:02:52 > 0:02:54Here you are!
0:02:54 > 0:02:57I was a tomboy, that's why.
0:02:58 > 0:03:00That's our mum.
0:03:00 > 0:03:01That's me with my dad.
0:03:01 > 0:03:05'The reason why Mandela was so important for me
0:03:05 > 0:03:07'and my little brother Knowlton
0:03:07 > 0:03:11'was because our dad was fighting for black rights too,
0:03:11 > 0:03:12'here in Britain.'
0:03:12 > 0:03:14I've found that one.
0:03:15 > 0:03:17"Sweet Victory For Crichlow."
0:03:17 > 0:03:20"No Compromise With Racism."
0:03:20 > 0:03:22'Dad saw racism first-hand.
0:03:22 > 0:03:25'When I was young, the police raided the restaurant he ran
0:03:25 > 0:03:28'and he was wrongfully arrested several times.'
0:03:28 > 0:03:33When you see, like, the police, it just looks...
0:03:33 > 0:03:34Very oppressive.
0:03:34 > 0:03:37Oppressive and threatening, yeah. It's not right.
0:03:37 > 0:03:41'We've still got the video my parents made of the moment
0:03:41 > 0:03:45'when Nelson Mandela was released from prison after 27 years.'
0:03:45 > 0:03:50There's Mr Mandela taking his first steps into a new South Africa.
0:03:50 > 0:03:53I do remember watching this when I was younger.
0:03:53 > 0:03:57A bit like a lot of Dad's own history and my childhood stuff,
0:03:57 > 0:04:00I don't remember when exactly it was,
0:04:00 > 0:04:03they're like snapshots in my memory.
0:04:03 > 0:04:07And when I watch it, it triggers those memories of growing up.
0:04:07 > 0:04:10It looks like footage from my past, if you know what I mean.
0:04:10 > 0:04:14'The whole world was gripped by Mandela's release.
0:04:14 > 0:04:16'It meant the end of apartheid,
0:04:16 > 0:04:19'the racist system of government in South Africa.'
0:04:19 > 0:04:23That is the man that the world has been waiting to see.
0:04:23 > 0:04:25CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:04:25 > 0:04:31'And Britain went crazy when Mandela visited London in 1996.'
0:04:32 > 0:04:34I want to assure you
0:04:34 > 0:04:39that I love each and every one of you here without exception.
0:04:39 > 0:04:42CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:04:42 > 0:04:46So this bridge here is that bridge there.
0:04:46 > 0:04:51We've got Brixton station and Atlantic Road here,
0:04:51 > 0:04:54so under this bridge in 1996, there was a hell of a lot of people
0:04:54 > 0:04:56who'd turned out to see Nelson Mandela.
0:05:00 > 0:05:04It was like the Second Coming of Christ. That's the feeling.
0:05:04 > 0:05:08Wow! Bring it home! OK!
0:05:08 > 0:05:12Everyone felt like loving each other because he was a great man.
0:05:12 > 0:05:15Words could fail me to describe the feeling, it was just...
0:05:15 > 0:05:17I've never felt that feeling about anyone.
0:05:17 > 0:05:20My brother shook his hand like three times,
0:05:20 > 0:05:22he kept running to the end of the line.
0:05:22 > 0:05:24How old was your brother?
0:05:24 > 0:05:25Nine.
0:05:25 > 0:05:27See? At nine years old he knew to get
0:05:27 > 0:05:29as many handshakes with Nelson as possible.
0:05:29 > 0:05:36- Every time I look at him, he just has this calm face.- Very Zen!
0:05:36 > 0:05:38It's really superficial but it's like, "Ah."
0:05:38 > 0:05:40- He's a nice man, you can tell. - Yeah.
0:05:42 > 0:05:44He was here.
0:05:44 > 0:05:46SHE LAUGHS
0:05:51 > 0:05:53# Listen to the music... #
0:05:53 > 0:05:56'Most of us love Mandela from a distance,
0:05:56 > 0:05:58'but what about the people who actually know him?'
0:05:58 > 0:06:02'I'm off to meet Sir Bob Geldof, and straightaway, he's revealing
0:06:02 > 0:06:04'there's another side to Mandela.'
0:06:04 > 0:06:06There's so many people...
0:06:06 > 0:06:07He's going to fancy you no end,
0:06:07 > 0:06:10even though he is 967 or whatever age he is.
0:06:10 > 0:06:12He's going to come on, like, you know...
0:06:12 > 0:06:16My word! Well, if he does, it's Nelson Mandela.
0:06:16 > 0:06:18Yeah, there you go!
0:06:18 > 0:06:19I'd fly home just on that.
0:06:19 > 0:06:22The thing is you actually do want to...
0:06:22 > 0:06:26I know it's crap but he's sort of cuddly, you know?!
0:06:26 > 0:06:31It's so bizarre that in my life I get to know someone like Mandela.
0:06:31 > 0:06:36And people say, you've met all these people,
0:06:36 > 0:06:39who's the most impressive person?
0:06:39 > 0:06:43It's a terrible cliche, but without a shadow of a doubt,
0:06:43 > 0:06:49the most impressive person I've ever met is Nelson Mandela.
0:06:49 > 0:06:53Because he's a great guy, he's very funny,
0:06:53 > 0:06:56he wears seriously happening clothes,
0:06:56 > 0:06:59adores women, loves kids, you know,
0:06:59 > 0:07:02what's there not to like in this guy?
0:07:04 > 0:07:07'It's time for me to head to South Africa for the first time ever.
0:07:07 > 0:07:12'I can't wait, but I'm also a bit nervous.'
0:07:14 > 0:07:20Everyone's told me my life's going to get changed, so change is good.
0:07:31 > 0:07:34'My first impressions of South Africa are, "Wow!"
0:07:34 > 0:07:37'No wonder so many people come here on holiday.
0:07:37 > 0:07:42'And in just a few weeks, hundreds of thousands of football fans
0:07:42 > 0:07:46'will flood here to see the World Cup.
0:07:51 > 0:07:54'Back in 1995, the country found itself hosting the World Cup
0:07:54 > 0:07:58'played with a different-shaped ball.
0:07:58 > 0:08:00'I can't believe my luck.
0:08:00 > 0:08:04'15 rugby players from the local uni, all to myself!'
0:08:04 > 0:08:07Please don't drop me, this is my business, OK!
0:08:09 > 0:08:12'No-one's given the South African football team
0:08:12 > 0:08:14'much of a chance of winning the World Cup.
0:08:14 > 0:08:18'But back then, the rugby team got all the way to the final,
0:08:18 > 0:08:20'and Mandela put in a special appearance.'
0:08:20 > 0:08:23Nelson Mandela came into our changing room before the game
0:08:23 > 0:08:24and wished us luck.
0:08:24 > 0:08:26- What did he say?- It was interesting.
0:08:26 > 0:08:29He didn't just come in and say, "Good luck, everyone."
0:08:29 > 0:08:31He came round, shook all our hands,
0:08:31 > 0:08:33and he had a little message for each person.
0:08:33 > 0:08:35It was very clear he knew the game,
0:08:35 > 0:08:39he spoke to each guy about his little role and, most significantly,
0:08:39 > 0:08:41he wore the Springbok shirt when he came in
0:08:41 > 0:08:43and that was just unbelievable.
0:08:43 > 0:08:45- About there?- It was, it was...
0:08:45 > 0:08:46'Inspired by Mandela,
0:08:46 > 0:08:49'Joel Stransky scored the winning kick
0:08:49 > 0:08:51'in the last minutes of the match.'
0:08:51 > 0:08:53Show us how it's done, Joel.
0:08:55 > 0:08:56Oh! Oh!
0:08:56 > 0:09:01Yeah! Woo!
0:09:03 > 0:09:05So just like that, basically?
0:09:05 > 0:09:08Pretty much just like that.
0:09:08 > 0:09:10Do you remember the day and the moment?
0:09:10 > 0:09:12If you shut your eyes, can you just hear...
0:09:12 > 0:09:14SHE MIMICS CROWD NOISE
0:09:14 > 0:09:18Probably not, there was so much going on around that time politically,
0:09:18 > 0:09:21that I think the rugby memories fade.
0:09:21 > 0:09:24The things that are most vivid in my mind,
0:09:24 > 0:09:27it's the political issues. It was Nelson Mandela.
0:09:27 > 0:09:30The celebrations afterwards, people of all different cultures
0:09:30 > 0:09:32and races celebrating together.
0:09:32 > 0:09:37And there's no doubt that at the time, the nation did unite around us.
0:09:37 > 0:09:41- Absolutely.- And it wasn't because of us, the rugby players,
0:09:41 > 0:09:42it was because of Nelson Mandela.
0:09:44 > 0:09:48That was really... I'm right here, guys!
0:09:48 > 0:09:51'At the time, rugby was seen in South Africa
0:09:51 > 0:09:53'as a sport just for the whites.'
0:09:53 > 0:09:55We won! We won! Mum, I won!
0:09:55 > 0:09:57'Things are very different now.'
0:09:57 > 0:10:00Ah, token white guy, there's always one.
0:10:00 > 0:10:04As I understand it - and correct me if I'm wrong - the fact that you're
0:10:04 > 0:10:08the token is actually quite a new thing in the sense that this
0:10:08 > 0:10:12used to be a white man's game. Is that true?
0:10:12 > 0:10:14It's not completely true
0:10:14 > 0:10:17because there was a lot of rugby played by black people.
0:10:17 > 0:10:19But it was never in the limelight.
0:10:19 > 0:10:22As much as I'm the only white guy on the team,
0:10:22 > 0:10:24I enjoy playing for this team. I love it.
0:10:24 > 0:10:28At the moment, it's not really a colour thing, a race thing.
0:10:28 > 0:10:32- Which is lovely. Isn't that nice... - It's a sport.
0:10:32 > 0:10:35..that that doesn't come into it? So my next question, big question, is,
0:10:35 > 0:10:39what does Mr Mandela mean to you guys?
0:10:39 > 0:10:41You know when someone is a father figure to you
0:10:41 > 0:10:43and you don't even know that person?
0:10:43 > 0:10:46That's Mandela. Everyone has a role model
0:10:46 > 0:10:50and I think every child in South Africa would say it's Mandela.
0:10:50 > 0:10:52That's my side of it.
0:10:52 > 0:10:54Basically, he's the father of our nation.
0:10:54 > 0:10:57As he said, he's a father figure for everyone -
0:10:57 > 0:10:59black, white, Indian, coloured - it doesn't matter.
0:10:59 > 0:11:01He's the father of our country.
0:11:01 > 0:11:03So you like the guy, basically?
0:11:03 > 0:11:05- We love him, we love him! - In a nutshell!
0:11:05 > 0:11:08Yeah, he's all right, isn't he?
0:11:08 > 0:11:10This is a hot scrum, guys.
0:11:10 > 0:11:14Thank you for inviting me in.
0:11:14 > 0:11:17It's been moving. I feel very privileged, trust me.
0:11:17 > 0:11:20This is what we do, pre and post the game. It's our war cry.
0:11:20 > 0:11:22LOUD CHANTING
0:11:30 > 0:11:32'When Nelson Mandela was a young man,
0:11:32 > 0:11:36'South Africa was a very different place.
0:11:36 > 0:11:39'White people, who make up less than 10% of the population,
0:11:39 > 0:11:41'ruled the country.
0:11:41 > 0:11:44'Racist laws, made to keep blacks separate from whites,
0:11:44 > 0:11:46'meant black people had to live
0:11:46 > 0:11:50'where they were told and couldn't travel without permission.'
0:11:50 > 0:11:52TV BROADCAST: 'If the police stop an African
0:11:52 > 0:11:56'and he has forgotten his book of passes, they put him into jail.'
0:11:56 > 0:11:58'Blacks were separated from whites
0:11:58 > 0:12:03'in everyday places like beaches, schools, hospitals and buses.
0:12:03 > 0:12:06'Black people didn't have the vote,
0:12:06 > 0:12:09'and were third-class citizens in their own country.
0:12:09 > 0:12:14'And if they complained, they were dealt with, often brutally.
0:12:14 > 0:12:18'In 1960, at a place called Sharpeville,
0:12:18 > 0:12:21'police shot dead 69 unarmed protestors.
0:12:25 > 0:12:29'This terrible massacre helped convince Nelson Mandela
0:12:29 > 0:12:30'to become a freedom fighter.
0:12:30 > 0:12:34'He set up the armed wing of the government's main opposition -
0:12:34 > 0:12:37'the African National Congress,
0:12:37 > 0:12:42'the ANC. And so the white government threw him in jail.
0:12:42 > 0:12:45DOORS SLAMMING
0:12:45 > 0:12:49# You can set me free or bang me up
0:12:49 > 0:12:52# Just stop torturing and tell me what you're gonna do... #
0:12:52 > 0:12:54'I'm heading to the island prison
0:12:54 > 0:12:58'where Mandela served most of his 27 years inside.
0:13:02 > 0:13:05'Robben Island was a maximum-security, black-only,
0:13:05 > 0:13:06'political prison.
0:13:08 > 0:13:10'Life there was very tough.
0:13:10 > 0:13:13'Hard manual labour was part of the punishment.'
0:13:13 > 0:13:17If I was on my way here to be imprisoned on an island,
0:13:17 > 0:13:20'I'd be absolutely terrified.
0:13:20 > 0:13:23I think I'd be very tempted to jump ship.
0:13:28 > 0:13:30'There are no prisoners here now,
0:13:30 > 0:13:35'but they've left the buildings standing as a reminder of the past.'
0:13:40 > 0:13:45This is the master key. It opens and closes twice.
0:13:45 > 0:13:48You see, I'm doing it gently.
0:13:48 > 0:13:55During the prison time, they would really make some serious noise. LOUD CLANKING
0:13:55 > 0:14:00The idea was always to affect you here.
0:14:00 > 0:14:02Do you want to come in?
0:14:03 > 0:14:05No!
0:14:05 > 0:14:06Come on, please.
0:14:09 > 0:14:11Mandela is a very tall man.
0:14:11 > 0:14:16When he came in here he would have to bend a little bit.
0:14:16 > 0:14:22For him to spend 18 years of his life in this space
0:14:22 > 0:14:26using these two mats and those four blankets...
0:14:26 > 0:14:28There was no toilets and shower.
0:14:28 > 0:14:31And so this is what was used.
0:14:31 > 0:14:35If you don't like small spaces,
0:14:35 > 0:14:38this would be the wrong place for you to be in.
0:14:38 > 0:14:40Do you have a question?
0:14:43 > 0:14:45- VOICE BREAKING - No.
0:14:45 > 0:14:47Let me give you a moment.
0:14:58 > 0:15:02'Standing here in Mandela's actual cell,
0:15:02 > 0:15:08'it all starts to feel so much more real, and so much more cruel.
0:15:08 > 0:15:11'Almost 20 years in a place this size.
0:15:11 > 0:15:14'How could anyone cope?'
0:15:16 > 0:15:19When apartheid was at its strongest,
0:15:19 > 0:15:22we needed a symbol
0:15:22 > 0:15:27that would capture that struggle.
0:15:27 > 0:15:30And Mandela became that symbol.
0:15:30 > 0:15:34'Hundreds of political prisoners were held here in these tiny cells.
0:15:34 > 0:15:37'My guide, Dede, was one of them.'
0:15:37 > 0:15:41This is the cell I was kept in.
0:15:41 > 0:15:47Six years and five months of my imprisonment was spent in this cell.
0:15:47 > 0:15:51You're going to think this is weird but,
0:15:51 > 0:15:57for me, I've developed this system.
0:15:57 > 0:16:00When I have my rough days
0:16:00 > 0:16:04in the prison tours,
0:16:04 > 0:16:06when everybody is gone,
0:16:06 > 0:16:10I come back here. I sit here.
0:16:10 > 0:16:13Sometimes I cry.
0:16:13 > 0:16:18Sometimes I think about my father.
0:16:18 > 0:16:20My father is my hero.
0:16:23 > 0:16:26And I never got to bury my father.
0:16:27 > 0:16:30They killed my father in such a cruel way.
0:16:33 > 0:16:34He opened a letter.
0:16:34 > 0:16:36It was a parcel bomb
0:16:36 > 0:16:38and it blew him up.
0:16:38 > 0:16:44They found a head there, a torso there, a leg there.
0:16:44 > 0:16:49My father was reduced to a black plastic bag.
0:16:49 > 0:16:52You understand?
0:16:52 > 0:16:54A black plastic bag.
0:16:56 > 0:16:57I never got to say goodbye.
0:17:33 > 0:17:36Dede, you are a brave man.
0:17:36 > 0:17:38My father is my hero, too.
0:17:40 > 0:17:44He went to prison, too.
0:17:44 > 0:17:50- He's still alive but he's ill. - Oh, man.
0:17:50 > 0:17:56Like you say, Mandela is the name and the symbol,
0:17:56 > 0:17:59but there's so many men.
0:17:59 > 0:18:02And you just think...
0:18:06 > 0:18:08..just, cheap life.
0:18:08 > 0:18:12Yeah, I understand.
0:18:12 > 0:18:16You know, black life, African life's so cheap.
0:18:16 > 0:18:19That's the thing, that's the thing.
0:18:27 > 0:18:29# I want you
0:18:29 > 0:18:30# I want you right now
0:18:30 > 0:18:31# Need you
0:18:31 > 0:18:33# I need you right now... #
0:18:33 > 0:18:35'This is Loyiso Bala,
0:18:35 > 0:18:39'a double-platinum-selling, massive South African star.
0:18:53 > 0:18:58'In his home township, Loyiso is now a bit of a celebrity.
0:18:58 > 0:19:01'When Mandela was in jail, Loyiso was growing up
0:19:01 > 0:19:05'on these streets, living every day in fear of the white police.'
0:19:05 > 0:19:09What really got to me was the way that the system would
0:19:09 > 0:19:13infiltrate us within our communities.
0:19:13 > 0:19:20There would be police going up and down in trucks, day in and day out.
0:19:20 > 0:19:22- On this road?- On this exact road.
0:19:22 > 0:19:24If you're going to call it apartheid
0:19:24 > 0:19:28and say that people should be segregated, then leave us alone.
0:19:28 > 0:19:30And if you don't want us there, then leave us alone.
0:19:30 > 0:19:35'But for kids like Loyiso, Nelson Mandela was a hero.'
0:19:35 > 0:19:42Nelson Mandela, when I grew up, he was like, you know in a fairy tale
0:19:42 > 0:19:46when you hear about the prince who is going to come and save the people?
0:19:46 > 0:19:48That was Nelson Mandela to us.
0:19:48 > 0:19:49He was sort of like,
0:19:49 > 0:19:56this mythological hero who would one day come out of prison and save us.
0:19:56 > 0:19:58- Hi, I'm Lenora.- This is my mum...
0:19:58 > 0:20:02'I'm staying the night with Loyiso's family.'
0:20:02 > 0:20:05Oh! Hello, Lenora, pleased to meet you.
0:20:05 > 0:20:08'Before dinner, Loyiso lets me in on a little secret.'
0:20:08 > 0:20:11When I was about four or five and they would ask,
0:20:11 > 0:20:13"What do you want to be when you grow up?"
0:20:13 > 0:20:15I said, "I want to be a white man."
0:20:15 > 0:20:18That's brilliant! Oh, my gosh!
0:20:18 > 0:20:21That's how sad it was...
0:20:21 > 0:20:23- Dream big!- That's just dreaming!
0:20:23 > 0:20:30I thought that was the change, that eventually we'd be white people.
0:20:30 > 0:20:33- And that's how life kind of gets better.- Wow.
0:20:35 > 0:20:37- Oh, food.- Nice..
0:20:37 > 0:20:39Thank you very much.
0:20:39 > 0:20:42'Loyiso's uncle was involved with the ANC.
0:20:42 > 0:20:46'The police arrested him and tried to turn him into an informer.'
0:21:12 > 0:21:14It was about breaking your spirit up to a point
0:21:14 > 0:21:18where you couldn't rise, you couldn't think, you felt inferior...
0:21:20 > 0:21:24What strikes me is, when you talk about fighting back,
0:21:24 > 0:21:28it's not from a place of anger or resentment or blame.
0:21:28 > 0:21:31It's much more a thing of...
0:21:31 > 0:21:34That you were fighting for equality.
0:21:34 > 0:21:37Obviously this is about Nelson Mandela,
0:21:37 > 0:21:41but I see where Nelson Mandela gets it from.
0:21:43 > 0:21:45SINGING
0:21:46 > 0:21:48'As the sun went down,
0:21:48 > 0:21:52'I found out where Loyiso gets his musical talent from.'
0:21:53 > 0:21:57Just now, I was really flagging.
0:21:57 > 0:22:00Then this music came out of the garage
0:22:00 > 0:22:03of the house we're staying in.
0:22:03 > 0:22:07And I went outside and the choir rehearses in the garage every night.
0:22:07 > 0:22:11And this music just went straight to my core.
0:22:11 > 0:22:15It's like an injection of... I don't know, I've never taken ProPlus,
0:22:15 > 0:22:18but ProPlus. It just invigorated me.
0:22:18 > 0:22:23And it really kind of sums up how this place is.
0:22:23 > 0:22:25It speaks straight to my heart and my soul
0:22:25 > 0:22:30and it challenges me to challenge the way I think.
0:22:30 > 0:22:35I've not met any victims here.
0:22:35 > 0:22:40Nobody I've spoken to wants to be thought of,
0:22:40 > 0:22:45or would call themselves a victim in any sense of the word.
0:22:45 > 0:22:47SINGING
0:23:10 > 0:23:14'When Mandela was released from prison in 1990,
0:23:14 > 0:23:18'South Africa turned into one big party.
0:23:18 > 0:23:23'People had been waiting for years for this moment.
0:23:23 > 0:23:25'But the moment passed.
0:23:25 > 0:23:29'Almost immediately, the country plunged into bloodshed and violence.
0:23:29 > 0:23:34'Some white people hated the idea that Mandela had been set free.
0:23:34 > 0:23:39'And some of South Africa's rulers deliberately caused violence between
0:23:39 > 0:23:43'the country's different tribes, with shocking results.'
0:23:43 > 0:23:46They used to form these columns, almost like the houses...
0:23:46 > 0:23:50'As a young journalist, Thandeka saw the worst of it.'
0:23:52 > 0:23:57This machete was typically used by migrant labourers
0:23:57 > 0:24:00like the men who are around us now.
0:24:00 > 0:24:03This kind of violence was called necklacing.
0:24:03 > 0:24:06Here you see a man aflame.
0:24:06 > 0:24:12How it was done is that people put a necklace over someone and ignite it.
0:24:12 > 0:24:18- So it's divide and rule?- Divide and rule of the most vicious type...
0:24:18 > 0:24:25To make it look like black-on-black violence and to give to the world
0:24:25 > 0:24:30an image of ethnic genocide which never happened in this country.
0:24:30 > 0:24:33The minute that government was out of place
0:24:33 > 0:24:37and could no longer use state funds to sponsor this kind of thing,
0:24:37 > 0:24:39you saw a cessation of it.
0:24:39 > 0:24:44Did you ever see white foot soldiers attacking?
0:24:44 > 0:24:48Yes, they would. Let me show you some pictures. Here they are.
0:24:48 > 0:24:50Here they are.
0:24:50 > 0:24:53GUNFIRE
0:24:53 > 0:24:59'Everyone was fighting everyone. The country was tearing itself apart.'
0:25:05 > 0:25:09You people must get out now very quickly, OK?
0:25:12 > 0:25:15'It was Nelson Mandela who ultimately stopped this violence.
0:25:15 > 0:25:19'He told his followers to put down their weapons.'
0:25:19 > 0:25:22Take your guns, your knives,
0:25:22 > 0:25:25and throw them into the sea.
0:25:27 > 0:25:32I cherish the ideal of a new South Africa
0:25:32 > 0:25:35where all South Africans are equal.
0:25:35 > 0:25:38'Mandela's time had come.
0:25:38 > 0:25:42'The white president agreed to his peace plans.
0:25:42 > 0:25:46'Four years after Mandela was set free, there was an election
0:25:46 > 0:25:49'and millions of black South Africans
0:25:49 > 0:25:52'took to the streets to vote for the very first time.
0:25:56 > 0:25:59'It was another incredible day for South Africa.
0:25:59 > 0:26:01'Thandeka was in the crowd.'
0:26:01 > 0:26:04I voted for the first time in '94.
0:26:04 > 0:26:06It was exhilarating
0:26:06 > 0:26:11because people stood in the line and started screaming.
0:26:11 > 0:26:15But we didn't scream inside the voting booth because,
0:26:15 > 0:26:20if we were to do so, it would disturb other people's right to vote.
0:26:20 > 0:26:27If people have waited a thousand or hundred years to vote,
0:26:27 > 0:26:30you just don't disturb them when you are voting.
0:26:30 > 0:26:35Then you can really scream afterwards and throw your hands up!
0:26:35 > 0:26:40I wish I could describe such an exciting voting experience for me.
0:26:40 > 0:26:42It's more like, "Leah, have you voted?"
0:26:42 > 0:26:45"Going, Mum, going."
0:26:47 > 0:26:50I shall never miss my vote again.
0:26:50 > 0:26:53- Please don't.- That is a vow.
0:26:55 > 0:27:01People quite happily queuing for hours to vote for the first time
0:27:01 > 0:27:06as adults - that's really such profound stuff to me.
0:27:06 > 0:27:11It's really given me a sense of, I don't know,
0:27:11 > 0:27:14a very empowering feeling,
0:27:14 > 0:27:19to have gone from that level of devastation, violence,
0:27:19 > 0:27:23turmoil, persecution, discrimination,
0:27:23 > 0:27:26and then to be where they are now,
0:27:26 > 0:27:31it's like having a cold shower.
0:27:31 > 0:27:34It just goes, "Wow! Wow!"
0:27:34 > 0:27:35CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:27:35 > 0:27:39I, Nelson Mandela,
0:27:39 > 0:27:45do hereby swear to be faithful to the Republic of South Africa.
0:27:45 > 0:27:47CHEERING AND APPLAUSE
0:27:47 > 0:27:52'Mandela became the first black president of South Africa in 1994.
0:27:55 > 0:27:59'Overnight, people who'd hated each other before joined forces.
0:27:59 > 0:28:04'It's amazing how one man managed to get such a divided country.
0:28:09 > 0:28:13'But there's another side to this incredible man - his family.
0:28:13 > 0:28:19'Nelson Mandela lost 27 years in prison but still found time
0:28:19 > 0:28:25'to have three wives, six children and 27 grandchildren.
0:28:25 > 0:28:28'At 91 years old, he doesn't do interviews, so today,
0:28:28 > 0:28:32'I'm meeting the next-best thing - one of his grandsons, Ndaba.
0:28:32 > 0:28:34'He even looks like him.
0:28:34 > 0:28:37'We're outside one of the prisons that Mandela was held in.'
0:28:37 > 0:28:40Nice to see you. How are you doing?
0:28:40 > 0:28:44- I'm good. How are you?- I'm OK. How is he as a grandfather?
0:28:44 > 0:28:46Is he hands-on?
0:28:46 > 0:28:48Not much hands-on but, whenever
0:28:48 > 0:28:53you meet him, he'll always ask what you're doing. He's always interested.
0:28:53 > 0:28:57What where your earliest memories of him growing up?
0:28:57 > 0:29:00He was very strict.
0:29:00 > 0:29:04He used very unconventional ways to try and instil some discipline.
0:29:04 > 0:29:09I remember I'd lost my school jersey twice.
0:29:09 > 0:29:14He was angry and he was like, "You don't have any value for things.
0:29:14 > 0:29:17"You're very careless. Today you must sleep outside."
0:29:17 > 0:29:18SHE LAUGHS
0:29:18 > 0:29:20Sorry, I like that!
0:29:20 > 0:29:23"Sleep outside." And did you lose your jersey again?
0:29:23 > 0:29:25- No.- Job done!
0:29:25 > 0:29:29Sleep outside. Wow!
0:29:29 > 0:29:32- Did he ever raise his voice? - Sometimes, he would be in a good mood
0:29:32 > 0:29:37and he would be telling stories, one after the other.
0:29:37 > 0:29:40Sometimes he would be just in a bad mood, a foul mood
0:29:40 > 0:29:42and he wouldn't talk or say anything.
0:29:42 > 0:29:46And when he does talk, it's like, it's very stern, very hard.
0:29:46 > 0:29:50Mandela's family is part of a traditional African tribe
0:29:50 > 0:29:53which has an extreme way of turning boys into men.
0:29:53 > 0:29:57We Xhosa men, we don't get circumcised at birth,
0:29:57 > 0:30:01- we get circumcised round about the age of 18.- Ouch!
0:30:01 > 0:30:03We go to a mountain.
0:30:03 > 0:30:07It's like a sacred place for men, and only men can discuss it.
0:30:07 > 0:30:10And you're not even allowed to say, especially to a woman,
0:30:10 > 0:30:12it's even worse. Then you get the worst luck.
0:30:12 > 0:30:15I totally respect that.
0:30:15 > 0:30:18You can imagine. You go to get circumcised.
0:30:18 > 0:30:23No anaesthetics, no conventional medicine or drugs.
0:30:23 > 0:30:25It's pure herbs.
0:30:25 > 0:30:32So you are getting cut with a hot spear that has been sharpened.
0:30:32 > 0:30:36And you get treated with natural herbs.
0:30:36 > 0:30:38As you can imagine,
0:30:38 > 0:30:42you have to be a man to go through that whole experience for a month.
0:30:42 > 0:30:44Yeah, I'll say.
0:30:44 > 0:30:46If you want to know more about it...
0:30:46 > 0:30:49They breed their men tough here in South Africa.
0:30:49 > 0:30:54Maybe that's where Mandela gets his strength from.
0:30:54 > 0:30:56Before it felt like I had an almost
0:30:56 > 0:30:59animated cartoon version of him in my head.
0:30:59 > 0:31:02And now, getting to know him,
0:31:02 > 0:31:08the amount of respect and admiration is not at all wavering.
0:31:08 > 0:31:15I'm growing in appreciation because he is becoming more real to me.
0:31:17 > 0:31:22In 1999, after five years of being president, Mandela stepped down.
0:31:22 > 0:31:23He was 80-years-old
0:31:23 > 0:31:26and thought younger people should be running the country.
0:31:31 > 0:31:33But instead of retiring like any normal grandfather,
0:31:33 > 0:31:37Mandela set off on a worldwide mission to get more things done
0:31:37 > 0:31:39for the country he loved.
0:31:41 > 0:31:44He used his image and personality -
0:31:44 > 0:31:47including his unique taste in shirts -
0:31:47 > 0:31:52his charm and his celebrity friends to persuade world leaders and people
0:31:52 > 0:31:58like you and me to support big causes like Make Poverty History.
0:31:58 > 0:32:00In this new century, millions of people
0:32:00 > 0:32:03in the world's poorest countries,
0:32:03 > 0:32:07they are trapped in the prison of poverty.
0:32:07 > 0:32:09APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
0:32:10 > 0:32:12But for Mandela, his biggest campaign of all
0:32:12 > 0:32:15is also very personal to him -
0:32:15 > 0:32:18AIDS.
0:32:18 > 0:32:20You young people,
0:32:20 > 0:32:24HIV doesn't just happen, like getting a cold.
0:32:24 > 0:32:26Millions of people have died of AIDS in South Africa,
0:32:26 > 0:32:30including Mandela's own son.
0:32:39 > 0:32:41Another tragedy of the disease
0:32:41 > 0:32:46is that one and a half million children now don't have parents.
0:32:51 > 0:32:54This orphanage, like hundreds of other outreach projects,
0:32:54 > 0:32:58is part funded by the Nelson Mandela Children's Fund.
0:33:01 > 0:33:02You take them as your children,
0:33:02 > 0:33:05not as another person's child.
0:33:05 > 0:33:09This is my child and that one is my child, and that one is my child.
0:33:09 > 0:33:11you would teach them the same way.
0:33:11 > 0:33:15Nosipho is one of the many carers Mandela helps pay for.
0:33:18 > 0:33:22And so far, Nelson Mandela's raised £50m
0:33:22 > 0:33:25to improve the lives of children,
0:33:25 > 0:33:29involving celebrities and his entire family in the process.
0:33:29 > 0:33:33Meet my second Mandela grandson, Kweku.
0:33:33 > 0:33:38For a long time, not just in our family but within this nation,
0:33:38 > 0:33:43there was a certain belief that HIV and AIDS was a poor man's disease.
0:33:43 > 0:33:45And it really proved that it wasn't.
0:33:47 > 0:33:49It struck us all and I think, for us,
0:33:49 > 0:33:53the key was not to sweep this under the carpet
0:33:53 > 0:33:57and act like this hadn't happened, but to show people.
0:33:57 > 0:34:02I talk about my granddad trying to lead by example, losing his only...
0:34:02 > 0:34:04his last son...
0:34:04 > 0:34:07and having the courage to sit there
0:34:07 > 0:34:11and tell the world that he died of HIV and AIDS.
0:34:11 > 0:34:15It was hard because a lot of people wanted to share in our suffering.
0:34:15 > 0:34:19I remember my uncle's funeral and how massive it was,
0:34:19 > 0:34:21how many people came to it.
0:34:21 > 0:34:25It was endearing because you see this huge amount of support.
0:34:25 > 0:34:26But at the same time,
0:34:26 > 0:34:31you feel that you want to have some sort of privacy.
0:34:31 > 0:34:35'AIDS has touched almost every family in South Africa...'
0:34:35 > 0:34:38Nose. What about your hair?
0:34:38 > 0:34:41'..but fewer people are now getting infected.'
0:34:41 > 0:34:46And, for me, this place is not sad, it's surprisingly full of hope.
0:34:46 > 0:34:48Can I get a big hug from everybody?
0:34:48 > 0:34:51I have to go now. I don't want to go.
0:34:51 > 0:34:54Thank you so much.
0:34:56 > 0:34:59Squeezed with love.
0:35:08 > 0:35:12My journey so far has been packed and I feel like I've seen so much.
0:35:12 > 0:35:16The more I see of this amazing country and its people,
0:35:16 > 0:35:17the more I feel at home.
0:35:17 > 0:35:22This is a country that knows how to eat, drink and relax.
0:35:22 > 0:35:24And how to have a good time.
0:35:25 > 0:35:28It's funny, one of the standard ideas
0:35:28 > 0:35:33that comes with Africa is the idea of starvation.
0:35:33 > 0:35:36Listen, every other place to stop,
0:35:36 > 0:35:39there's some serious barbecuing going on.
0:35:39 > 0:35:43So just for today, just for here, no one's going hungry.
0:35:47 > 0:35:52Time for a night off in one of Johannesburg's exclusive nightclubs.
0:36:20 > 0:36:22But in other parts of this city,
0:36:22 > 0:36:28every night, there's a reminder that South Africa still has big problems.
0:36:28 > 0:36:31Crime is massive on these streets.
0:36:31 > 0:36:35There are 18,000 murders a year in South Africa,
0:36:35 > 0:36:38and visitors to the World Cup have been warned to be on their guard.
0:36:45 > 0:36:47I'm heading for a township called Alexandra.
0:36:47 > 0:36:51It's got a pretty scary reputation.
0:36:51 > 0:36:54It's not safe for outsiders to drive here at night,
0:36:54 > 0:36:56let alone get of their cars.
0:37:00 > 0:37:02So I'm joining the police on patrol.
0:37:02 > 0:37:05Already tonight, a man has been stabbed to death.
0:37:05 > 0:37:08The police are stopping and searching people,
0:37:08 > 0:37:10hunting for weapons.
0:37:24 > 0:37:29I suppose what's quite alarming about it is the route we just took,
0:37:29 > 0:37:33the police presence was very, very heavy.
0:37:33 > 0:37:34There's a lot of cars, a lot of vehicles,
0:37:34 > 0:37:39a lot of guns, a lot of bullet-proof vests, a lot of heads.
0:37:39 > 0:37:42The manpower was a lot.
0:37:42 > 0:37:46It kind of is a reflection of how severe
0:37:46 > 0:37:50the crime is, if that's the counter action.
0:37:53 > 0:37:56I've noticed the police are not going down any of
0:37:56 > 0:38:00the side alleys off this main road and they are staying close to their
0:38:00 > 0:38:03support vehicles at all times.
0:38:06 > 0:38:09It suddenly feels very tense.
0:38:09 > 0:38:11They're raiding this bar for knives and guns.
0:38:11 > 0:38:13And a man is arrested.
0:38:18 > 0:38:20The whole area feels very on edge.
0:38:20 > 0:38:23This is a totally different side to South Africa.
0:38:35 > 0:38:38It's the morning after and I've come back to Alex
0:38:38 > 0:38:40to see what it's like in the daylight.
0:38:40 > 0:38:46Being here this morning certainly feels
0:38:46 > 0:38:49like what was all the fuss about last night?
0:38:49 > 0:38:52It feels safe. It feels open and friendly.
0:38:52 > 0:38:55Something about it being Sunday
0:38:55 > 0:38:59and seeing quite a few people in their Sunday best.
0:39:16 > 0:39:20The sense of community here feels very strong,
0:39:20 > 0:39:25so why is there so much violence in this neighbourhood?
0:39:29 > 0:39:33In the crowd, I get chatting with a woman called Thembe.
0:39:33 > 0:39:36She knows all about the crime on the streets.
0:39:36 > 0:39:41December, and this guy came with a gun and he said, "Give me the phone
0:39:41 > 0:39:43"or else I'm going to shoot you."
0:39:43 > 0:39:46I remember seeing there was one guy,
0:39:46 > 0:39:52I think he didn't know anything about this area.
0:39:52 > 0:39:53You know you would get like you guys,
0:39:53 > 0:39:58you would come here but he was coming from another region.
0:39:58 > 0:40:01I saw these guys, they went to him,
0:40:01 > 0:40:05and he had a bag, they took his bag, and they shot him.
0:40:05 > 0:40:07They killed him, just like that.
0:40:07 > 0:40:10Thembe offers to take me down the alleys
0:40:10 > 0:40:13the police didn't want to patrol.
0:40:13 > 0:40:19Everybody here, they all share this toilet.
0:40:19 > 0:40:20All of them.
0:40:20 > 0:40:24Over one in four black South Africans are unemployed.
0:40:24 > 0:40:29And half the black population lives on less than £3 a day.
0:40:29 > 0:40:31There's more than 10 people in this house.
0:40:31 > 0:40:34Oh. That's a party.
0:40:34 > 0:40:37Where's their water? Do they have a water supply?
0:40:37 > 0:40:40They use the toilet that I showed you, it's got a tap.
0:40:40 > 0:40:45We go further into the maze of shacks and slum houses.
0:40:45 > 0:40:48Thembe tells me that 50 people live in this building.
0:40:48 > 0:40:51More than five people sleep here.
0:40:56 > 0:41:02And then each room is separated with these sheets.
0:41:04 > 0:41:05So there's still more that side.
0:41:05 > 0:41:08- OK, there's more.- But you can't...
0:41:08 > 0:41:10I don't know, it's very dark.
0:41:13 > 0:41:15They are renting this place.
0:41:15 > 0:41:16OK.
0:41:20 > 0:41:24Surely it's this poverty that's behind the massive crime problem.
0:41:26 > 0:41:30The 2010 FIFA World Cup
0:41:30 > 0:41:33will be organised in South Africa.
0:41:37 > 0:41:40Nelson Mandela was the centrepiece of the campaign
0:41:40 > 0:41:43to bring the World Cup to South Africa.
0:41:43 > 0:41:45There will be 32 nations taking part,
0:41:45 > 0:41:50and millions of people will flock to 10 stadiums across the country.
0:41:50 > 0:41:53Everywhere I go, I can feel the excitement.
0:41:53 > 0:41:57Football is a huge passion here.
0:41:57 > 0:42:00But Nelson Mandela hopes that as well as an amazing
0:42:00 > 0:42:03month of international football,
0:42:03 > 0:42:05the World Cup will bring badly needed money into the country,
0:42:05 > 0:42:08giving South Africans new jobs,
0:42:08 > 0:42:12new roads, new businesses and a new hope for the future.
0:42:27 > 0:42:30But for all that hope, the problems I've seen in this country are still
0:42:30 > 0:42:33a long way from being fixed, and I've heard that there are
0:42:33 > 0:42:37some people in South Africa who have mixed feelings about Mandela.
0:42:38 > 0:42:42My next stop is a township an hour's drive from Johannesburg,
0:42:42 > 0:42:45and notorious for a massacre 50 years ago
0:42:45 > 0:42:47which will never be forgotten.
0:42:49 > 0:42:51Tshepo is a human rights worker.
0:42:51 > 0:42:55In the first picture that you see here, these were people coming.
0:42:55 > 0:42:56That's the march?
0:42:56 > 0:42:59- You can see it's a lot of people. - That's more than a few hundred.
0:42:59 > 0:43:02You can see they're not armed, they're not carrying any arms.
0:43:02 > 0:43:07This is what happened subsequently, at the place we are standing now.
0:43:07 > 0:43:10- Oh, God.- You can see all of these people have been shot.
0:43:10 > 0:43:14Most of them have been shot in the back, most were running away as they
0:43:14 > 0:43:16were being shot with live ammunition.
0:43:16 > 0:43:20Official statistics say 69 people were killed,
0:43:20 > 0:43:24but people suspect that it's much more than that.
0:43:24 > 0:43:26And that really brought the world attention
0:43:26 > 0:43:29to the brutality of what has happened in South Africa.
0:43:29 > 0:43:31Before that, the world was in denial.
0:43:31 > 0:43:34Very significant site because after this massacre,
0:43:34 > 0:43:38people got to know about what was happening in South Africa.
0:43:42 > 0:43:45There are still people here who remember that terrible day.
0:43:46 > 0:43:47Hello, I'm Lenora.
0:43:53 > 0:43:56So he was shot here, you can see the stitches.
0:43:56 > 0:44:00Those who carried out this massacre have never been brought to justice.
0:44:00 > 0:44:04As part of Mandela's peace plan for South Africa,
0:44:04 > 0:44:08many horrific crimes on both sides, black and white, were forgiven.
0:44:52 > 0:44:54And it's not just the older people who are angry.
0:45:48 > 0:45:50- Wow. - That was what other people argue.
0:45:50 > 0:45:52No, I...
0:45:52 > 0:45:55It's an important... One can't ignore
0:45:55 > 0:45:57opinions like that.
0:45:59 > 0:46:01It's the first time on this trip
0:46:01 > 0:46:03I've heard anything negative about Nelson Mandela.
0:46:03 > 0:46:06And meeting those survivors of the Sharpeville massacre
0:46:06 > 0:46:07has given me a restless night.
0:46:07 > 0:46:12I found it hard to sleep last night thinking about it.
0:46:12 > 0:46:15I found it hard to shut off.
0:46:17 > 0:46:20I look at these two people in front of me and I feel like
0:46:20 > 0:46:24I owe you my freedom, I feel like you've paid such a price,
0:46:24 > 0:46:28and they're still paying a price,
0:46:28 > 0:46:32for me to have the opportunities I have,
0:46:32 > 0:46:40for a couple like my parents to even be OK and have children.
0:46:40 > 0:46:41Erm...
0:46:43 > 0:46:47I just feel like I owe them so much. I feel like,
0:46:47 > 0:46:50without these individuals, where would we be?
0:46:56 > 0:47:00It seems a shame these people who Mandela's worked so hard to help
0:47:00 > 0:47:01now feel let down.
0:47:01 > 0:47:05But I'm finding out this is a complicated country.
0:47:08 > 0:47:12He, Mandela the man, is becoming a lot more three dimensional,
0:47:12 > 0:47:14a lot more real, and that brings with it...
0:47:16 > 0:47:22the flaws, the things that aren't...
0:47:22 > 0:47:24aren't finished.
0:47:24 > 0:47:27And perhaps some of the things that...
0:47:30 > 0:47:33weren't done so well, if I can say that.
0:47:36 > 0:47:39All the mistakes. We all make mistakes.
0:47:42 > 0:47:44And some black South Africans
0:47:44 > 0:47:46think the biggest mistake Mandela made
0:47:46 > 0:47:48was leaving huge amounts of money in the hands of the whites,
0:47:48 > 0:47:50instead of spreading it around.
0:47:50 > 0:47:54It brought peace and economic stability to the new nation,
0:47:54 > 0:47:57but not the equality that Mandela may have wanted.
0:48:00 > 0:48:03I'm heading to rich, white South Africa.
0:48:03 > 0:48:06Many whites now live in ultra secure compounds
0:48:06 > 0:48:08because of the high crime rate.
0:48:08 > 0:48:12And despite their wealth, a few of them are very unhappy
0:48:12 > 0:48:14with the new South Africa.
0:48:18 > 0:48:19- Hello, Jo?- Yes.
0:48:19 > 0:48:23Hi, Jo. I'll let you open up your...
0:48:23 > 0:48:26very secure... Hi, I'm Lenora.
0:48:26 > 0:48:28- Pleased to meet you. - Pleased to meet you, too.
0:48:28 > 0:48:34They weld these bolts to the whole system
0:48:34 > 0:48:36so that they can't be taken off the wall.
0:48:36 > 0:48:39And we have lights here, we've got lights over there.
0:48:39 > 0:48:44Everywhere, just to make sure there's nothing hiding in any corner.
0:48:44 > 0:48:46And you're in a gated community.
0:48:46 > 0:48:49I mean, seriously, this does look like prison bars, doesn't it?
0:48:49 > 0:48:53It's like the house is built like a cage, basically.
0:48:53 > 0:48:57If there's a fire in here, and it's here...
0:48:57 > 0:49:00- We can't get out.- Oh, my God.
0:49:00 > 0:49:02Can't win.
0:49:02 > 0:49:06Johannot has been the victim of violent crime before,
0:49:06 > 0:49:09so everywhere she goes she carries a walkie talkie
0:49:09 > 0:49:12that's connected to a neighbourhood response team.
0:49:13 > 0:49:16Johannot thinks that Nelson Mandela's project
0:49:16 > 0:49:19to unite South Africa's people has failed.
0:49:20 > 0:49:23In terms of the future of South Africa,
0:49:23 > 0:49:26I think that we've had 16 years
0:49:26 > 0:49:29to prove that we can stand together, and...
0:49:29 > 0:49:31we haven't proven that.
0:49:31 > 0:49:37For me, personally, I would say that it would be better for my people,
0:49:37 > 0:49:43for the preservation of our culture and our language, to be separated.
0:49:43 > 0:49:46How would that work? I don't...
0:49:46 > 0:49:49Basically, there's a group in South Africa
0:49:49 > 0:49:51that is actually working towards this.
0:49:51 > 0:49:55They're called the Volksraad Verkiesing Kommissie.
0:49:55 > 0:50:00This commission, what they are trying to do is to gather all
0:50:00 > 0:50:07the people of our culture, and vote for our leaders of our new country.
0:50:07 > 0:50:12Do you think that's a better goal to be striving for
0:50:12 > 0:50:14over integration?
0:50:14 > 0:50:17Yes, I believe it is a better goal.
0:50:17 > 0:50:21- Why? - Because Europe is not one nation.
0:50:21 > 0:50:23All the countries in Europe have got their own culture
0:50:23 > 0:50:27and their own language and they want self determination.
0:50:27 > 0:50:30If you throw all of them together suddenly, it's not going to work.
0:50:30 > 0:50:35Is it ridiculous and naive to think these differences in culture and
0:50:35 > 0:50:41language in South Africa's context could live harmoniously together?
0:50:41 > 0:50:44Is that a silly thought to you?
0:50:44 > 0:50:48It's not silly. If it could work, it would be great.
0:50:48 > 0:50:53But I think South Africa is not going in the right direction
0:50:53 > 0:50:57for my people, my Afrikaans people.
0:50:57 > 0:51:00We are being treated as second class citizens.
0:51:04 > 0:51:09That part about being separate and having her and her people,
0:51:09 > 0:51:10as she put it,
0:51:10 > 0:51:15having their own separate part of Africa, their own country,
0:51:15 > 0:51:18in essence, I'm just like...
0:51:21 > 0:51:25It just sounds a bit like repackaged apartheid to me.
0:51:41 > 0:51:44Next day, I head to Soweto, a world-famous black neighbourhood,
0:51:44 > 0:51:46to meet a South African family
0:51:46 > 0:51:49who sum up Nelson Mandela's hopes for the country.
0:51:50 > 0:51:53Knock, knock. Hello? Hello, Brenda?
0:51:53 > 0:51:57As a mixed race couple, Brenda and her fiance, Werner,
0:51:57 > 0:52:00can honestly say they fell in love because of Nelson Mandela.
0:52:00 > 0:52:0320 years ago, their relationship would have been illegal.
0:52:03 > 0:52:06Now, they have a four-year-old son.
0:52:06 > 0:52:11So, I'm going to get straight to the point and ask you how you both met?
0:52:11 > 0:52:16It was 2004, we met through friends that introduced us to each other.
0:52:16 > 0:52:19- It was love ever since. - Love at first sight?- Yes.
0:52:19 > 0:52:22See, it does happen! I'm convinced it happens.
0:52:22 > 0:52:24- It happens.- Did you not know that?
0:52:24 > 0:52:28- That looks like it's news to you. - She should know this, cos her
0:52:28 > 0:52:31hair was wild like this the morning that I met her.
0:52:31 > 0:52:34I looked weird. Trust me, I don't think it was love at first sight.
0:52:34 > 0:52:38Yeah, well, weird clearly works!
0:52:38 > 0:52:42How did your family react to you bringing home...?
0:52:42 > 0:52:45My grandfather once asked my grandmother, cos he used to come
0:52:45 > 0:52:49over to where we stayed and he'd make lunch for my grandmother
0:52:49 > 0:52:52and grandfather, and my grandfather once asked my grandmother,
0:52:52 > 0:52:56"Did you ever think a white man would be making you lunch today?"
0:52:56 > 0:52:58And she was like, "No."
0:52:58 > 0:53:00She never thought it was going to happen.
0:53:00 > 0:53:02Can I ask what you guys think of Nelson Mandela?
0:53:02 > 0:53:04I think he's a great man.
0:53:04 > 0:53:07He spent 27 years in jail for me.
0:53:07 > 0:53:10If it wasn't for him, I wouldn't be where I am.
0:53:10 > 0:53:13I wouldn't be with a white man with a coloured child.
0:53:13 > 0:53:14I wouldn't be able to go anywhere.
0:53:14 > 0:53:18For him to come out and not have any grudge against white people,
0:53:18 > 0:53:22or not just white people, but any race.
0:53:22 > 0:53:26For him to fight all those years and then come out
0:53:26 > 0:53:28being the person he is...
0:53:31 > 0:53:36There's no words for how great Mandela could be,
0:53:36 > 0:53:39or how great he already is.
0:53:55 > 0:53:56Mixed race relationships like this
0:53:56 > 0:53:58are still not common in South Africa,
0:53:58 > 0:54:02but I'm pleased to say that most of the people I've met on this trip
0:54:02 > 0:54:04see nothing wrong with them,
0:54:04 > 0:54:07and that shows just how far Mandela's brought this nation
0:54:07 > 0:54:08in 20 years.
0:54:08 > 0:54:13This place still does have some serious problems, but I'm hopeful,
0:54:13 > 0:54:15really hopeful, for the future here.
0:54:30 > 0:54:33I've got one last place I want to visit before I head home.
0:54:34 > 0:54:36I can't meet the man himself,
0:54:36 > 0:54:39but this place helps me feel close to him.
0:54:45 > 0:54:48It's the house Nelson Mandela lived in before he was arrested,
0:54:48 > 0:54:51and the home he returned to after his release.
0:54:54 > 0:54:58It's actually really nice to be quite still in this place.
0:54:58 > 0:55:01The rain coming down, there's something
0:55:01 > 0:55:04very calming and soothing about it, something very, er...
0:55:07 > 0:55:09It brings it alive, really.
0:55:09 > 0:55:10Brings this place alive.
0:55:13 > 0:55:16I think it helps that I have a very vivid imagination.
0:55:19 > 0:55:23I can imagine this place being alive with a family.
0:55:23 > 0:55:27I think it just really brings home the fact
0:55:27 > 0:55:31that he was just an ordinary guy,
0:55:31 > 0:55:34who's done something pretty extraordinary.
0:55:37 > 0:55:41It's been a long and emotional journey for me.
0:55:41 > 0:55:43Mandela has achieved so much.
0:55:43 > 0:55:46He's ended apartheid and avoided civil war,
0:55:46 > 0:55:49he's forgiven the people who put him in prison,
0:55:49 > 0:55:52and he's given hope to oppressed people all around the world.
0:55:52 > 0:55:56Yes, Mandela may have made mistakes, but we all do.
0:55:56 > 0:55:59For me, coming here has convinced me
0:55:59 > 0:56:04that Nelson Mandela really is the greatest man alive.
0:56:04 > 0:56:08He shows us that we don't have to be victims of our past,
0:56:08 > 0:56:12that we can let go of our bitterness,
0:56:12 > 0:56:15and all of us can achieve greatness.
0:56:24 > 0:56:30# Free, free, free Nelson Mandela
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