Living on the Never Never

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0:00:02 > 0:00:05Most of us live with debt. It's part of everyday life.

0:00:05 > 0:00:08But more and more people are being pushed over the edge.

0:00:08 > 0:00:11The thing I'm going without at the moment is food.

0:00:11 > 0:00:15It is hand to mouth and most days, nothing is getting to my mouth.

0:00:15 > 0:00:20The Citizens Advice Bureau in a south-east Wales debt black spot

0:00:20 > 0:00:22can see up to 20 clients a day,

0:00:22 > 0:00:26with 20 different reasons for being in the red.

0:00:26 > 0:00:29- It could be losing a job because of sickness...- I was a social worker.

0:00:29 > 0:00:32My job ended due to long-term ill health.

0:00:32 > 0:00:37Certain things slowly went and you live day by day.

0:00:37 > 0:00:39..a sudden death in the family...

0:00:39 > 0:00:43My mother's funeral, I basically had to scrimp and save and borrow.

0:00:43 > 0:00:45I still owe about £600.

0:00:45 > 0:00:49..a hero back from war struggling to adjust.

0:00:49 > 0:00:52He did try to work, but he found it very difficult coming out into civvy street.

0:00:52 > 0:00:56He's got the debtors phoning in. Then you've got your home bills.

0:00:56 > 0:00:59You can't get rid of them. Then he tried to take an overdose.

0:00:59 > 0:01:03During the winter of 2014, we followed three people

0:01:03 > 0:01:07trapped in debt through circumstances beyond their control.

0:01:07 > 0:01:11As you see, if you look in the fridge, my fridge is pretty bare at the moment.

0:01:11 > 0:01:14This fall from grace could happen to anyone.

0:01:14 > 0:01:18In the past decade alone, household debt has almost doubled

0:01:18 > 0:01:21and the Citizens Advice Bureau often has to pick up the pieces

0:01:21 > 0:01:23when things go wrong.

0:01:23 > 0:01:27People have used the term "the perfect storm"

0:01:27 > 0:01:30and I think they're probably right.

0:01:30 > 0:01:35- Shitting myself now.- You may even have to borrow money to go bankrupt.

0:01:35 > 0:01:41It is ironic that you have to find £525 in order to go bankrupt.

0:01:41 > 0:01:45So is there ever an escape from living on the never never?

0:01:51 > 0:01:54Mid-winter, Blaenau Gwent,

0:01:54 > 0:01:57and Catherine Black has a consultation with a debt adviser.

0:01:57 > 0:02:01Until she lost a well-paid job as a social worker,

0:02:01 > 0:02:03Cath was used to helping others.

0:02:03 > 0:02:08Today, with over £150,000 of mortgage and home improvement loans

0:02:08 > 0:02:12weighing her down, she receives advice that would surprise many.

0:02:12 > 0:02:16She can escape her debts through bankruptcy, but it'll cost.

0:02:16 > 0:02:19- You could go bankrupt, yourself. - Haven't got the money.

0:02:19 > 0:02:21- You haven't got the 700?- No.

0:02:22 > 0:02:26Bankruptcy is £525 and then there's court fees of £175.

0:02:26 > 0:02:31But the 175, because you're on benefits, may be waived.

0:02:31 > 0:02:32OK.

0:02:32 > 0:02:36You could go for bankruptcy and that would deal with all of your debts

0:02:36 > 0:02:40and the property and everything all in one.

0:02:40 > 0:02:44Cath's tried every other option with her debts.

0:02:44 > 0:02:47Now she has to find over £500 to go bankrupt.

0:02:47 > 0:02:50But life hasn't always been such a struggle.

0:02:50 > 0:02:53I was a social worker.

0:02:53 > 0:02:57Problems with my job started over two-and-a-half years ago.

0:02:57 > 0:02:59I eventually became ill with stress.

0:02:59 > 0:03:04By September last year, my job had ended due to long-term ill health.

0:03:04 > 0:03:11So my income went from £32,000 a year to £940 a month.

0:03:11 > 0:03:16A drop in income of almost two-thirds has pushed Cath to

0:03:16 > 0:03:18her financial limits.

0:03:18 > 0:03:22I coped when I was a student. I hope I can cope now.

0:03:22 > 0:03:28But knowing until next Monday that I haven't got anything for gas,

0:03:28 > 0:03:35electric, food...is scary.

0:03:35 > 0:03:39- I got bread rolls.- That's all you ever say, Mam!- I've got bread rolls.

0:03:39 > 0:03:43- Is that literally all we have? - Scrambled egg and bread rolls.- Yeah.

0:03:43 > 0:03:45There's certain things slowly went.

0:03:45 > 0:03:48Insurance for the boiler, personal insurance,

0:03:48 > 0:03:53the food became more processed, and you live day by day.

0:03:54 > 0:03:56As well as mortgage and loan debts,

0:03:56 > 0:03:59Cath is also behind with her everyday bills

0:03:59 > 0:04:03and has been forced onto a pre-payment electricity meter.

0:04:03 > 0:04:07And each time she puts money in, costs are deducted for arrears

0:04:07 > 0:04:09and the cost for the meter itself.

0:04:09 > 0:04:14I've got to put £16 in and that will put me on zero.

0:04:14 > 0:04:18And then, whatever I put in after that will be my electricity.

0:04:18 > 0:04:22The Citizens Advice Bureau has contacted Cath's creditors to

0:04:22 > 0:04:25negotiate short-term lower payments,

0:04:25 > 0:04:29but that hasn't stopped the stressful phone calls.

0:04:29 > 0:04:33I'm responding to a letter from you guys to ring you

0:04:33 > 0:04:35because my account's in arrears.

0:04:35 > 0:04:37OK, thanks, Abbey.

0:04:37 > 0:04:39Cheers, bye.

0:04:40 > 0:04:42Shitting myself now.

0:04:47 > 0:04:50Cath has also been encouraged to consider any other areas

0:04:50 > 0:04:52where spending could be cut back.

0:04:52 > 0:04:55This would include her son's weekly drama club,

0:04:55 > 0:04:57but it's a step too far for Cath.

0:04:57 > 0:05:00He's been with the Young Stars now for five years.

0:05:00 > 0:05:01He absolutely loves it.

0:05:01 > 0:05:04It's helped him maintain his confidence,

0:05:04 > 0:05:07it's helped develop his personality.

0:05:07 > 0:05:14It's £16 a month, but because I'm...minus over £100 per

0:05:14 > 0:05:20month just for the basic outgoings, it isn't available, really.

0:05:20 > 0:05:24But we cut down on the food and the gas and the electric,

0:05:24 > 0:05:26the stuff we can do.

0:05:26 > 0:05:30Even tonight, Cath has had to rush out for some cash to pay

0:05:30 > 0:05:32the drama club arrears.

0:05:32 > 0:05:35After I dropped Ben off, I popped out to a cashpoint,

0:05:35 > 0:05:37so I could get the money for him to stay tonight.

0:05:37 > 0:05:41They told me how much I owed, so I whipped it out.

0:05:41 > 0:05:44I wouldn't let this activity go for Ben.

0:05:44 > 0:05:47My circumstances are not his problem.

0:05:47 > 0:05:49And he needs this support that's here,

0:05:49 > 0:05:52and the friendships and the activities.

0:05:59 > 0:06:03With little room for cutting back and creditors still calling,

0:06:03 > 0:06:06the next few weeks will be crucial for Cath,

0:06:06 > 0:06:09as she tries to find the money to go bankrupt.

0:06:16 > 0:06:2012 miles south, on the outskirts of Blackwood,

0:06:20 > 0:06:24another client of the CAB is trying to hold things together.

0:06:24 > 0:06:28A few years ago, Helen Cotterill was a happily married army wife,

0:06:28 > 0:06:31but today, she's home alone with daughter Arianwen

0:06:31 > 0:06:34and ignoring calls from creditors.

0:06:34 > 0:06:37He's come to see why you're crying. Hm?

0:06:37 > 0:06:42Following several tours of Iraq and Afghanistan, her husband Richard

0:06:42 > 0:06:46left the army and has struggled to adapt to life back on civvy street.

0:06:46 > 0:06:48He did try to work,

0:06:48 > 0:06:51but he found it very difficult coming out into civvy street, couldn't

0:06:51 > 0:06:54get a job, he started having these episodes where his rages

0:06:54 > 0:06:57and his mood changes and everything like that,

0:06:57 > 0:07:01and then what happened was he tried to take an overdose.

0:07:01 > 0:07:03He ended up in hospital.

0:07:03 > 0:07:07That's when he then got put into... with the Vets Association.

0:07:07 > 0:07:10They then diagnosed post-traumatic stress disorder.

0:07:10 > 0:07:13They take it back to 2007, when he did Iraq tour.

0:07:13 > 0:07:16That was a bad tour. He lost quite a few friends

0:07:16 > 0:07:19and he nearly lost his own life on a couple of occasions.

0:07:19 > 0:07:21After several tours of duty,

0:07:21 > 0:07:25husband Richard found some work in the security industry,

0:07:25 > 0:07:27but struggling with the emotional traumas of war,

0:07:27 > 0:07:30managing his finances became a problem.

0:07:30 > 0:07:34The family's debts have grown to around £17,000.

0:07:34 > 0:07:37Over the years, my husband has, where he's been ill

0:07:37 > 0:07:40and he hasn't really addressed his illness,

0:07:40 > 0:07:45he's basically accumulated debt where he's buried his head in the sand

0:07:45 > 0:07:50- and he's not been able to deal with it.- Daddy.

0:07:50 > 0:07:53How's it going up there today?

0:07:53 > 0:07:55- 'Not very good.'- Not very good?

0:07:55 > 0:07:57- 'I've had enough.' - You've had enough?

0:07:57 > 0:08:01Richard is now away on a six-week therapy course to

0:08:01 > 0:08:06treat his post-traumatic stress disorder, and he's finding it hard.

0:08:06 > 0:08:08It's not going to be easy, love.

0:08:08 > 0:08:11It will be difficult, at times.

0:08:11 > 0:08:14You will get bad days, as well as good days, OK?

0:08:14 > 0:08:19Part of the PTSD is they feel guilty that they shouldn't be here,

0:08:19 > 0:08:21that their colleagues have died,

0:08:21 > 0:08:23and sometimes when they're in debt or when they've got

0:08:23 > 0:08:26themselves into a pickle, they feel they've let their family down.

0:08:26 > 0:08:29And it just made him worse, made his illness worse.

0:08:29 > 0:08:32Then it put the pressure on me and my daughter.

0:08:32 > 0:08:35- Ooh!- Daddy's made a cake.

0:08:35 > 0:08:39- Yeah!- He made cakes when he was up there, where Daddy is.

0:08:39 > 0:08:42Helen has had to reduce her part-time hours in her job to

0:08:42 > 0:08:46care for her husband, and a delay in his sickness benefits claim

0:08:46 > 0:08:48left them with little money for essentials.

0:08:48 > 0:08:51The only solution seemed to be small

0:08:51 > 0:08:53short-term, high-interest payday loans.

0:08:53 > 0:08:57I needed to do those, in order to keep us afloat,

0:08:57 > 0:09:01but what was happening was the one month I did it, I took the

0:09:01 > 0:09:05payday loans out, every month then, you're paying the payday loans back.

0:09:05 > 0:09:08Then you're struggling to live again,

0:09:08 > 0:09:11so you're having to take the payday loans out again.

0:09:11 > 0:09:14You can't get rid of them.

0:09:14 > 0:09:19Helen has come to meet debt adviser Nicola at the CAB in Bargoed.

0:09:19 > 0:09:22Once Helen's essential costs are paid,

0:09:22 > 0:09:25there's not enough money for her creditors.

0:09:25 > 0:09:29Nicola plans to make token repayment offers of as little as a pound

0:09:29 > 0:09:34a month to the payday lenders and other non-priority creditors.

0:09:34 > 0:09:38I'll revise all this, now then. And...yeah.

0:09:38 > 0:09:41We can get a letter out to them.

0:09:41 > 0:09:45If these token offers are accepted, a big pressure on husband

0:09:45 > 0:09:49Richard will be lifted when he returns home in a few weeks' time.

0:09:49 > 0:09:51But it's a waiting game for Helen,

0:09:51 > 0:09:55as payday lenders are not always quick to respond.

0:09:57 > 0:10:02On the outskirts of Caerphilly, Ricky Ryan is another debt

0:10:02 > 0:10:05client, waiting for his appointment. Over a decade ago,

0:10:05 > 0:10:10he gave up his job as a plasterer to care for his mother full-time.

0:10:10 > 0:10:15Although emotionally demanding, he was still just financially secure.

0:10:15 > 0:10:18Ten years ago, my mother lost the use of her legs,

0:10:18 > 0:10:20so she couldn't walk.

0:10:20 > 0:10:23And then, because of the lack of walking, her legs wasted away.

0:10:23 > 0:10:26And then she basically laid in a hospital bed here in the room,

0:10:26 > 0:10:31right here, and I had to basically do the washing, the cooking, the

0:10:31 > 0:10:34cleaning, and I would have breathed for her, if could,

0:10:34 > 0:10:37because she really did look after me really well.

0:10:37 > 0:10:40It come to an end because she had a heart attack and died.

0:10:40 > 0:10:44That was 18 months ago. My head went. I didn't...

0:10:44 > 0:10:48I was depressed and I couldn't see any way out of the situation

0:10:48 > 0:10:51I was in. My head was in the trenches, really.

0:10:51 > 0:10:53God, just make sure you look after her.

0:10:53 > 0:10:57Ricky's troubles started when facing the costs of his mother's funeral

0:10:57 > 0:11:00and burial plot at the same time that he lost his carer's allowance.

0:11:00 > 0:11:03I had to pay for my mother to have a grave.

0:11:03 > 0:11:06I thought that was really important. I basically had to scrimp and save

0:11:06 > 0:11:10and borrow over the last year to pay some of that in.

0:11:10 > 0:11:15I still owe Caerphilly Funeral Services about £600.

0:11:15 > 0:11:19After his mother's death, Ricky lost his income as a carer

0:11:19 > 0:11:22and some of his costs also went up dramatically.

0:11:22 > 0:11:26A change in status from carer to unemployed caused his car

0:11:26 > 0:11:27insurance to more than double.

0:11:27 > 0:11:30I contacted the Automobile Association,

0:11:30 > 0:11:32which I was getting my car insurance from.

0:11:32 > 0:11:37They changed my policy then from being on £500 a year

0:11:37 > 0:11:41to £1,000 plus a year. I cancelled my policy with them.

0:11:41 > 0:11:45Then they told me I have to pay £288 for the cancellation fee.

0:11:45 > 0:11:49And then, without asking, took it out of my bank account.

0:11:49 > 0:11:54A few hundred pounds pushed Ricky into a £50 overdraft he's

0:11:54 > 0:11:56since struggled to clear.

0:11:59 > 0:12:04The regular overdraft fees eat into his £72-a-week job-seekers'

0:12:04 > 0:12:07allowance. He can't afford to put his car on the road

0:12:07 > 0:12:10and he's also struggling to feed himself properly.

0:12:12 > 0:12:15I really have been running a very tight ship for the last eight

0:12:15 > 0:12:19months now, really, trying to get out of this overdraft situation.

0:12:19 > 0:12:22I buy bread, beans and potatoes, and that pretty much gets me through each

0:12:22 > 0:12:26day of the week, and there's a couple of days I don't really eat very well.

0:12:26 > 0:12:28- How are you, all right?- Yeah, good.

0:12:31 > 0:12:33I went down to look at my account this morning

0:12:33 > 0:12:38and I was heartbroken to see all that was left was £9.37,

0:12:38 > 0:12:42so I'm now going to be £11 overdrawn again.

0:12:42 > 0:12:45As you can see, if you look in the fridge,

0:12:45 > 0:12:47my fridge is pretty bare at the moment.

0:12:47 > 0:12:51At the moment, it is hand to mouth, and most days,

0:12:51 > 0:12:52nothing is getting to my mouth.

0:12:55 > 0:13:00Today, Ricky's come to meet Angela at the Bargoed Bureau Office

0:13:00 > 0:13:04to see if anything can be done about his debt of over £1,000.

0:13:04 > 0:13:11- So, you have a very large shortfall. - Yeah.- £258, you're short of.

0:13:11 > 0:13:13Obviously, a month.

0:13:13 > 0:13:16The main solution would be to find some way of increasing

0:13:16 > 0:13:20his income, but Ricky's not ready for Angela's first suggestion.

0:13:20 > 0:13:21What about getting a lodger?

0:13:21 > 0:13:25I could think about that, yeah, but I don't really want a lodger, to tell you the truth.

0:13:25 > 0:13:29No, I know, but even if you did it short-term, it would give you money towards living costs.

0:13:29 > 0:13:32I don't want a stranger living in my house.

0:13:32 > 0:13:36Or a friend living in my house. I've had a lodger before and it's no fun. Have you ever had a lodger?

0:13:36 > 0:13:39- I've had four kids, but it's not the same, I know.- It's not the same, no.

0:13:39 > 0:13:43I've had a lodger and believe you me, they do take the piss, like.

0:13:43 > 0:13:46'If he can improve his income,

0:13:46 > 0:13:49'then he should be able to afford his commitments going forward.'

0:13:49 > 0:13:53He did ask me for some advice with regards to becoming a self-employed

0:13:53 > 0:13:58plasterer and I printed off some information for some ideas of places

0:13:58 > 0:14:02he could go for funding and advice to set himself up as self-employed.

0:14:04 > 0:14:08Ricky's decision is to return to his old trade as a plasterer.

0:14:08 > 0:14:12And he's planning on going self-employed. But this brings him

0:14:12 > 0:14:15back to his old problem of getting his car back on the road.

0:14:17 > 0:14:21Over 100,000 debt problems were dealt with

0:14:21 > 0:14:25by the Citizens Advice Bureau in Wales in the past year.

0:14:25 > 0:14:27But as household debts go up,

0:14:27 > 0:14:31the Bureau's funding is coming under increased pressure.

0:14:31 > 0:14:34There are Bureau that have lost significant

0:14:34 > 0:14:36levels of funding in Wales.

0:14:36 > 0:14:39There are Bureau that have been forced to close or very

0:14:39 > 0:14:40nearly close.

0:14:40 > 0:14:46At a time when the demand for advice is going through the roof.

0:14:46 > 0:14:51People have used the term "the perfect storm"

0:14:51 > 0:14:53and I think they're probably right.

0:14:53 > 0:14:57We're going to see a lot more coming in the next few years.

0:14:57 > 0:14:59It is very, very worrying.

0:14:59 > 0:15:02The problems that people are bringing to us

0:15:02 > 0:15:07are getting more complex. The solutions are not so easy to find.

0:15:07 > 0:15:09We don't have a magic bullet.

0:15:09 > 0:15:12We can't magically change their situation.

0:15:12 > 0:15:16What we try to do, what the purpose of it is, is to try

0:15:16 > 0:15:20and put them back in control of their lives.

0:15:22 > 0:15:25Two weeks later and Cath Black is trying to regain

0:15:25 > 0:15:29control of her life by hitting the phone.

0:15:29 > 0:15:33Although it could mean eventually losing her home,

0:15:33 > 0:15:37Cath wants to go bankrupt to clear over £150,000 worth of debt.

0:15:37 > 0:15:41I've been to the Citizens Advice Bureau

0:15:41 > 0:15:46and I've had a full financial statement done with them.

0:15:46 > 0:15:50And one of the decisions from that was to look at bankruptcy.

0:15:50 > 0:15:55Cath has to find more than £500 to pay for bankruptcy and she's phoning

0:15:55 > 0:15:59her old trade union and other charities to ask for the money.

0:15:59 > 0:16:03It is ironic that you have to find £525

0:16:03 > 0:16:07when you're over £152,000 in debt,

0:16:07 > 0:16:09in order to go bankrupt.

0:16:09 > 0:16:11Yeah.

0:16:14 > 0:16:16Despite the frustrations,

0:16:16 > 0:16:20Cath's been getting to grips with the cost of feeding the family.

0:16:20 > 0:16:25With fresh veg proving expensive, she's decided to grow her own.

0:16:25 > 0:16:28This is the allotments for the ward of Beaufort.

0:16:28 > 0:16:31I put my name down a year ago and had a phone call to say -

0:16:31 > 0:16:33did I still want one?

0:16:33 > 0:16:35I said, "Yes, please." Came out and had a look.

0:16:35 > 0:16:40Found the £5.25 for a whole 12 months. Yes!

0:16:40 > 0:16:44And came up here for the first time on Saturday

0:16:44 > 0:16:46and planted my early potatoes.

0:16:46 > 0:16:49Cos potatoes are so expensive now, I'm going

0:16:49 > 0:16:52to do a whole square of potatoes.

0:16:52 > 0:16:55When I was a teenager, fruit and veg was so cheap,

0:16:55 > 0:16:58my parents stopped gardening.

0:16:58 > 0:17:01But now, with prices as they are, I think it's quite essential

0:17:01 > 0:17:04and it's nice now to get back into it as well.

0:17:04 > 0:17:07Since losing her job due to ill health,

0:17:07 > 0:17:10Cath has been receiving sickness benefits.

0:17:10 > 0:17:13With the recent changes to the benefit system, she's had to

0:17:13 > 0:17:17face a health review, which has stated she's now fit to work.

0:17:18 > 0:17:22I was told on the phone yesterday I scored nil out of the 15

0:17:22 > 0:17:26points necessary in order to be eligible for sickness benefit.

0:17:26 > 0:17:29From their point of view, I'm available for work.

0:17:29 > 0:17:35And in terms of mental ill health and anxiety,

0:17:35 > 0:17:39the style of the questionnaire just surprised me.

0:17:40 > 0:17:42To receive job-seekers' allowance,

0:17:42 > 0:17:46Cath has to prove she's looking for work.

0:17:46 > 0:17:49Today, she has her first appointment at the job centre,

0:17:49 > 0:17:54but she's not sure she's mentally prepared to return to the workplace.

0:17:54 > 0:17:56I think I cried all the way through.

0:17:56 > 0:17:58Quietly.

0:17:58 > 0:18:04The woman was brilliant. She was lovely. But I just hope I can do it.

0:18:04 > 0:18:06I really hope I can do it.

0:18:06 > 0:18:08I don't know.

0:18:08 > 0:18:10I don't know.

0:18:10 > 0:18:13I'm all over the place.

0:18:13 > 0:18:15For Cath, the future's uncertain

0:18:15 > 0:18:19and there's still the need to find funding to go bankrupt.

0:18:19 > 0:18:22The next few weeks could be crucial.

0:18:25 > 0:18:29Back on the outskirts of Blackwood, Helen is still coping on her own.

0:18:29 > 0:18:33She's decided to take on the burden of the family's finances to

0:18:33 > 0:18:35ease the pressure on her husband,

0:18:35 > 0:18:39currently being treated for post-traumatic stress disorder.

0:18:39 > 0:18:42He hasn't got the worry of the finances or anything like that

0:18:42 > 0:18:45because I deal with that. Things are getting sorted.

0:18:45 > 0:18:48I'm still a little bit concerned about the payday loans,

0:18:48 > 0:18:50but I don't tell him about them.

0:18:50 > 0:18:53I keep them away from him at the moment.

0:18:53 > 0:18:57The latest news from Richard is that he'll need further treatment

0:18:57 > 0:19:00and will remain away from the family home.

0:19:00 > 0:19:03Where we thought the six weeks would do the trick, it's not.

0:19:03 > 0:19:07It's going to actually take a bit longer cos he's actually a bit worse than what they thought.

0:19:07 > 0:19:10Going to have to go back for more treatment.

0:19:10 > 0:19:12Helen's waiting to hear

0:19:12 > 0:19:16if the token £1 offers to the payday loan companies have been accepted.

0:19:16 > 0:19:20She's still receiving calls and letters asking for money.

0:19:20 > 0:19:23I've got to be honest, I haven't answered the calls

0:19:23 > 0:19:28because I'm too scared to. That's why...

0:19:30 > 0:19:34When you do answer the call, they don't listen to reason. They just...

0:19:34 > 0:19:37Their attitude is, they just won't.

0:19:37 > 0:19:41As often in these cases, some creditors are not quick to

0:19:41 > 0:19:44respond and Helen's waiting game continues.

0:19:48 > 0:19:52In Caerphilly, Ricky's under pressure to clear his water arrears.

0:19:52 > 0:19:56But with an empty bank account, repayments have to wait.

0:19:56 > 0:20:00No, sorry. I can't give you any payment today over the phone.

0:20:00 > 0:20:03It's going to be about four weeks' time, to be honest.

0:20:03 > 0:20:07The main solution to Ricky's debts is to try and get back to work.

0:20:07 > 0:20:11He's keeping his plastering skills well practised at home

0:20:11 > 0:20:15and he's ready to take the plunge by going into business.

0:20:15 > 0:20:18What I'm doing today is what I'm going to be doing in my future

0:20:18 > 0:20:23business, which is basically making good on jobs which aren't finished

0:20:23 > 0:20:28properly, or are just old and need to be maintained and brought up to spec.

0:20:28 > 0:20:32Make it a nice finish, so that the people can then paint it

0:20:32 > 0:20:35and it can blend into their new decoration.

0:20:35 > 0:20:39Going self-employed as a plasterer would mean putting his car

0:20:39 > 0:20:43back on the road - a move that could force Ricky further into debt.

0:20:43 > 0:20:47It's so scary, I can't put it into words.

0:20:47 > 0:20:50In fact, it's like a cloud hanging over my head, a dark cloud

0:20:50 > 0:20:54in an otherwise blue sky, because going into another situation where

0:20:54 > 0:20:57I might even incur more debt and then become bankrupt

0:20:57 > 0:20:59and then have to sell my house.

0:20:59 > 0:21:02Hopefully it'll pan out.

0:21:02 > 0:21:06Today, Ricky is pounding the streets near his home to post

0:21:06 > 0:21:08business cards through letter boxes.

0:21:08 > 0:21:12But he knows that he'll have to up his marketing

0:21:12 > 0:21:16and go further afield if he's to have any hope of success.

0:21:16 > 0:21:20The range of problems faced by Ricky, Helen

0:21:20 > 0:21:25and Catherine are seen all too often at the Citizens Advice Bureau.

0:21:25 > 0:21:27Many, like Ricky,

0:21:27 > 0:21:31find it difficult to pay for small debts with their benefits.

0:21:31 > 0:21:32And the solutions are limited.

0:21:32 > 0:21:35There isn't enough money to go round.

0:21:35 > 0:21:38There isn't enough money to make all those essential payments.

0:21:38 > 0:21:41And if they're not entitled to any further benefits,

0:21:41 > 0:21:46for whatever reason, really there isn't a lot that we can do.

0:21:46 > 0:21:50Like Helen, more and more are turning to payday loans to

0:21:50 > 0:21:53cover financial shortfalls.

0:21:53 > 0:21:54Two years ago,

0:21:54 > 0:21:57very few of our clients had even heard of a payday loan.

0:21:57 > 0:22:01Nowadays, we deal routinely with clients who have several

0:22:01 > 0:22:05payday loans and are juggling payments between them.

0:22:05 > 0:22:06And like Cath,

0:22:06 > 0:22:09an increasing number of professionals are asking for help.

0:22:09 > 0:22:12Our client group is changing

0:22:12 > 0:22:15and we're seeing a lot more people who are now working.

0:22:15 > 0:22:18But again, simply can't afford to make ends meet.

0:22:18 > 0:22:22Circumstances could change, their hours have been reduced.

0:22:22 > 0:22:24That can all have a knock-on effect.

0:22:24 > 0:22:28Often, a change of circumstances turns lives upside down,

0:22:28 > 0:22:31bringing them to the doors of the CAB.

0:22:34 > 0:22:38It's spring 2014 and after a long winter for our three

0:22:38 > 0:22:42families in debt, does a new season bring new hope?

0:22:42 > 0:22:46On the outskirts of Blackwood, Helen Cotterill's reunited with husband Richard,

0:22:46 > 0:22:49who is back from his treatment for post-traumatic stress disorder.

0:22:49 > 0:22:53Helen's finally got some good news regarding their creditors.

0:22:53 > 0:22:56We've agreed those minimal payments with the companies.

0:22:56 > 0:23:00They're quite happy that we're paying that because at least we're paying something.

0:23:00 > 0:23:05We're happy because that stress and strain is taken off our backs, off our shoulders now.

0:23:05 > 0:23:08And we're able to now pay our rent,

0:23:08 > 0:23:11we're not getting ourselves into hot water on that side of things.

0:23:11 > 0:23:15With many of their debts on hold for the time being, husband

0:23:15 > 0:23:20Richard can concentrate on getting better and rebuilding his life.

0:23:20 > 0:23:23It would help a lot for me to get the stress off my shoulders.

0:23:23 > 0:23:27I was thinking about it constantly, 24 hours, 7 days a week.

0:23:27 > 0:23:32Pushing myself deeper into the ground and ignoring the debts,

0:23:32 > 0:23:36which was causing more problems and more stress for me.

0:23:36 > 0:23:38And I couldn't cope with it.

0:23:38 > 0:23:43He has a lot to thank the Citizens Advice Bureau for.

0:23:43 > 0:23:46If it wasn't for that organisation, I'd probably be...

0:23:46 > 0:23:50Wouldn't be here now. I've come a long way and I can't thank them enough.

0:23:53 > 0:23:55On the outskirts of Caerphilly,

0:23:55 > 0:23:58Ricky Ryan has taken a risky decision.

0:23:58 > 0:24:02I'd like to tax my car, please. For six months.

0:24:02 > 0:24:06'The money for the car tax I had to find by missing a few payments

0:24:06 > 0:24:08'on Welsh Water,

0:24:08 > 0:24:12'but I'm going to have to make that back up with them now.'

0:24:12 > 0:24:13£145.75.

0:24:13 > 0:24:15I'll pay cash then, please.

0:24:15 > 0:24:17- Yeah.- Lovely.

0:24:17 > 0:24:20'In the last four months, the car's been at the side of the house,

0:24:20 > 0:24:23'not being able to get to and from work or make any

0:24:23 > 0:24:26'kind of journeys back and fore with tools and materials.

0:24:26 > 0:24:30'Then the thoughts of starting the business, I couldn't do it.'

0:24:30 > 0:24:33So, that's your logbook back there.

0:24:33 > 0:24:36- Your receipt. And your disc.- Thank you.

0:24:36 > 0:24:39- I'm so busy with the change here. - That's lovely. Thank you very much.

0:24:39 > 0:24:43'Making the move from not doing anything to doing something is

0:24:43 > 0:24:47'always going to be tricky. I'm just relying on luck.'

0:24:47 > 0:24:51Ricky now has to find paid work as a self-employed

0:24:51 > 0:24:54plasterer as soon as possible

0:24:54 > 0:24:57or he'll be plunged deeper into debt.

0:24:57 > 0:25:02But having a taxed car means that Ricky can go further afield

0:25:02 > 0:25:07to market his business, posting pamphlets throughout the area.

0:25:07 > 0:25:11I've had at least three possible job leads since I've been out this

0:25:11 > 0:25:15morning, speaking to people, and it's great to be back in the game.

0:25:15 > 0:25:18A week later and Ricky's marketing push has turned into a request

0:25:18 > 0:25:22for a quote, but will he be able to price the job competitively?

0:25:22 > 0:25:27I think you probably will have to take a section of this out, but I think I probably could patch it.

0:25:27 > 0:25:29It won't be perfect because it's artex.

0:25:29 > 0:25:32But I could match it in as good as I can to the pattern.

0:25:32 > 0:25:37I could do this for you, with the labour and the materials

0:25:37 > 0:25:41and the VAT, for about £150.

0:25:41 > 0:25:43Does that sound OK? That's for the two, yeah.

0:25:43 > 0:25:45That sounds all right.

0:25:45 > 0:25:48If you give me a call and let me know and we'll take on from there.

0:25:48 > 0:25:51- Yeah.- All right then. Thanks, Mr Griffiths.- Cheers, thanks.

0:25:51 > 0:25:54'I'm still confident it's going to work out,

0:25:54 > 0:25:57'so now I'm going to spread word further afield.

0:25:57 > 0:26:00'Fingers crossed that everything will work out.

0:26:00 > 0:26:03'I'm going to put a lot of work and effort into marketing myself.

0:26:03 > 0:26:06'If you don't succeed at the first attempt, keep trying,

0:26:06 > 0:26:10'try again until you do succeed, and I'm going to use that approach.'

0:26:12 > 0:26:17Beaufort, April 1st, and Cath's had an unexpected phone call that

0:26:17 > 0:26:19lightens the mood immediately.

0:26:19 > 0:26:21Hiya, Angie. All right?

0:26:21 > 0:26:25A charity has agreed to fund Cath's bankruptcy application

0:26:25 > 0:26:28and all she has to do after filling the forms is pick up

0:26:28 > 0:26:32a cheque from the adviser Angela at the Citizens Advice Bureau.

0:26:32 > 0:26:35Oh, fantastic!

0:26:36 > 0:26:38- We've had the cheque.- Yeah.

0:26:38 > 0:26:42OK, and they've made it payable to Her Majesty's Courts

0:26:42 > 0:26:46and Tribunal Service. That pays your bankruptcy fee. That's £525.

0:26:46 > 0:26:50There's a court fee then due of £175.

0:26:50 > 0:26:53- Because you're on benefits, you're exempt.- Right.

0:26:53 > 0:26:57- OK, so I've filled out the application form for you.- Thank you.

0:26:57 > 0:27:01So all you need to do when you take it to the court is sign it.

0:27:01 > 0:27:03'It's a real sense of satisfaction.

0:27:03 > 0:27:07'I'm very lucky with Catherine that because she's got the qualifications

0:27:07 > 0:27:11'that she's got, there are certain charities that will help with that.

0:27:11 > 0:27:16'There are many clients who we find it very difficult to get funding.'

0:27:16 > 0:27:21They're encouraged to ask family and friends to help.

0:27:21 > 0:27:24But finding the money is impossible.

0:27:24 > 0:27:25Great. Thank you very much.

0:27:25 > 0:27:29- Couldn't have done it without you. - You got there.- Yes.

0:27:29 > 0:27:33Two days later and Cath's in Blackwood for her court appointment.

0:27:33 > 0:27:37She has to submit her bankruptcy forms, hand over the cheque,

0:27:37 > 0:27:39and wait for confirmation that

0:27:39 > 0:27:43over £150,000 worth of debt has been taken care of.

0:27:43 > 0:27:47They didn't call it bankruptcy. They called it insolvency.

0:27:47 > 0:27:51And it was all over and done with within half hour.

0:27:51 > 0:27:57What I've got is one piece of paper to say I am now bankrupt.

0:27:57 > 0:28:01And it basically means that's it now. All my debts are written off.

0:28:01 > 0:28:02Um...

0:28:02 > 0:28:07And anything else that I've got now, like the property, the car,

0:28:07 > 0:28:08or sorting the bank account,

0:28:08 > 0:28:12will all be dealt with with the official receiver.

0:28:12 > 0:28:17And once my circumstances begin to change, following this,

0:28:17 > 0:28:21then I'll be able to fully appreciate that today is

0:28:21 > 0:28:24the first day of the rest of my life.

0:28:24 > 0:28:29With Cath's bankruptcy, Ricky's move into business,

0:28:29 > 0:28:31and Helen's new payment plan,

0:28:31 > 0:28:34three people are closer to lifting their burden of debt,

0:28:34 > 0:28:39but every day, another 20 turn up at the same advice bureau,

0:28:39 > 0:28:4020 different stories shared,

0:28:40 > 0:28:45and 20 new attempts to escape the burden of living on the never never.