Sir Terry Wogan Remembered: Fifty Years at the BBC

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0:00:03 > 0:00:05Sir Terry Wogan was the ultimate broadcaster.

0:00:07 > 0:00:10The voice that helped Britain wake up and face the day,

0:00:10 > 0:00:13and the man who raised millions for charity

0:00:13 > 0:00:15as the host of Children In Need.

0:00:15 > 0:00:17What a night!

0:00:17 > 0:00:19So, from all of us, thank you.

0:00:19 > 0:00:22His was an extraordinary career,

0:00:22 > 0:00:24touching the lives of those who watched him,

0:00:24 > 0:00:27listened to him and worked with him.

0:00:27 > 0:00:32And this week at Westminster Abbey, his friends, colleagues and family

0:00:32 > 0:00:35came together to celebrate the man they loved.

0:00:35 > 0:00:38The service took place exactly 50 years to the day

0:00:38 > 0:00:42after he presented his first programme for the BBC,

0:00:42 > 0:00:44a step on the way to becoming

0:00:44 > 0:00:47one of the greatest broadcasters in British history.

0:00:48 > 0:00:52He assumed an intelligence on the part of the audience.

0:00:52 > 0:00:53There was no talking down.

0:00:53 > 0:00:55He kind of talked up to the audience.

0:00:55 > 0:00:59Would it be a human thing to say, "I made a mess of that"?

0:00:59 > 0:01:02The public might warm to you more than they do.

0:01:04 > 0:01:10I think he had the perfect balance of heart, soul, compassion,

0:01:10 > 0:01:12but also with a sprinkle of laughter

0:01:12 > 0:01:14and a sense of humour on top of that.

0:01:14 > 0:01:16He was so authentic.

0:01:16 > 0:01:19It wasn't like he was turning into, sort of, TV or radio Terry,

0:01:19 > 0:01:21he was just being him and that's why people liked him.

0:01:21 > 0:01:24That's why people watched him on TV, that's why people listened to him.

0:01:24 > 0:01:26They felt like they were his friend.

0:01:26 > 0:01:28He had time on the radio for his listeners,

0:01:28 > 0:01:30he had time on the radio for himself

0:01:30 > 0:01:33and he had time in life for everyone. That was the thing for me.

0:01:33 > 0:01:37You never felt like he particularly adapted to trends

0:01:37 > 0:01:39or what someone else wanted him to be.

0:01:39 > 0:01:41He was just always his own man

0:01:41 > 0:01:44and that's always a very attractive quality in someone.

0:01:44 > 0:01:47Terry, you're smashing it tonight, do you know that?

0:01:47 > 0:01:51- Absolutely smashing it.- Which is popular talk for ruining it, is it?

0:01:51 > 0:01:54LAUGHTER

0:02:03 > 0:02:06I didn't set out to be famous.

0:02:08 > 0:02:09I mean, I didn't mind.

0:02:11 > 0:02:14If being famous was there on offer, great.

0:02:14 > 0:02:15OK.

0:02:15 > 0:02:19'I don't really have enormous drive.

0:02:19 > 0:02:22'I've never knocked on anybody's door and asked them for a job.

0:02:22 > 0:02:25'What I've had is a kind of blessed life.'

0:02:28 > 0:02:31Warm, witty, wise and wry,

0:02:31 > 0:02:34Sir Terry Wogan was the most popular man on television

0:02:34 > 0:02:37at the same time as being the most popular voice on radio.

0:02:37 > 0:02:39I think I know that.

0:02:39 > 0:02:43For 50 years at the BBC, he delighted his audiences,

0:02:43 > 0:02:46but did it all with an effortlessness and self-deprecation

0:02:46 > 0:02:48that belied his innate talent

0:02:48 > 0:02:50and created a broadcasting legacy

0:02:50 > 0:02:52that would be felt for generations to come.

0:02:53 > 0:02:58When you set off, you tap your leg quite hard and say, "Walkies!"

0:02:59 > 0:03:03I think he's relaxed the art or form or craft of broadcasting.

0:03:03 > 0:03:06To be honest, I feel a bit of a sissy saying...

0:03:06 > 0:03:08No, no, you're not a sissy, you're a dog trainer.

0:03:08 > 0:03:10Why can't you just say, "Walk, blast you"?

0:03:10 > 0:03:15Done live, unscripted, but also in a trustworthy way,

0:03:15 > 0:03:17and I think he affected the whole BBC.

0:03:17 > 0:03:21I think Terry Wogan and the BBC go together.

0:03:21 > 0:03:24- Say, "Walkies!" Don't pull. - Walkies!

0:03:25 > 0:03:31He was incredibly at home in front of a microphone or a camera.

0:03:31 > 0:03:34It was something very intimate and very genuine.

0:03:34 > 0:03:35You know, you can't bottle that.

0:03:35 > 0:03:38You can't train for it, you can't do anything.

0:03:38 > 0:03:41You either have it or you don't and he had it like nobody else.

0:03:41 > 0:03:43You can get power crazed in this place.

0:03:43 > 0:03:47It only came home to me really when I got to Radio 2 and I met him

0:03:47 > 0:03:50and I thought, "Oh, you are the same person that you are on the air.

0:03:50 > 0:03:55"You're funny and kind and very, very personable."

0:03:55 > 0:03:57That was Terry. And I thought,

0:03:57 > 0:03:59that's the kind of broadcaster you want to be.

0:03:59 > 0:04:04See, now, wouldn't that make anybody want to watch it?

0:04:08 > 0:04:10Terry's attitude and part of the reason

0:04:10 > 0:04:13for his success in Britain was his Irishness.

0:04:13 > 0:04:17I think that he was a very Irish man who became a very English man.

0:04:17 > 0:04:20That love of the sense of the absurd,

0:04:20 > 0:04:22the George Bernard Shaw thing.

0:04:22 > 0:04:25Even Beckett would have been, I think, happy on occasion

0:04:25 > 0:04:27with some of the whimsy

0:04:27 > 0:04:30and the sparse whimsy that Terry would come out with.

0:04:36 > 0:04:38He may have been a giant of British broadcasting,

0:04:38 > 0:04:42but Terry Wogan's Irish roots were key to the man he became.

0:04:42 > 0:04:47He comes from a country where storytelling and singing

0:04:47 > 0:04:49is very much part of life

0:04:49 > 0:04:52and was, in that older Ireland,

0:04:52 > 0:04:56very much part of day-to-day life and how people communicated.

0:04:56 > 0:05:01And that's what made him such a great radio broadcaster,

0:05:01 > 0:05:03because he was a raconteur.

0:05:03 > 0:05:06He told stories. He told them very well.

0:05:06 > 0:05:07He was very loquacious.

0:05:07 > 0:05:11He comes from a country where the national hobby is talking.

0:05:12 > 0:05:17My mother always remembers me doing commentaries along with the radio.

0:05:17 > 0:05:20And I was always obsessed with the radio.

0:05:20 > 0:05:23Despite these early signs of his future career,

0:05:23 > 0:05:26Terry's first job was in a bank.

0:05:26 > 0:05:28However, after four years,

0:05:28 > 0:05:31he answered a newspaper advert for announcers on Irish radio.

0:05:31 > 0:05:36And, extraordinarily enough, with the little qualifications I had,

0:05:36 > 0:05:39I was called for an audition,

0:05:39 > 0:05:41did the audition

0:05:41 > 0:05:44and, blow me down, they offered me a job.

0:05:45 > 0:05:47And that was the beginning.

0:05:47 > 0:05:49Stand by, cameras one and two.

0:05:49 > 0:05:53Radio led to the newly formed Irish Television Service

0:05:53 > 0:05:56and he quickly became a national celebrity.

0:05:56 > 0:05:58There was something about him.

0:05:58 > 0:06:01He was just a great broadcaster.

0:06:01 > 0:06:05And it was something he was, whether intentionally or not,

0:06:05 > 0:06:07but it turned out he was born to do it.

0:06:07 > 0:06:11Now one of the most eligible men in Ireland,

0:06:11 > 0:06:14Terry met the love of his life, Helen Joyce,

0:06:14 > 0:06:15one of the country's top models.

0:06:18 > 0:06:20On a wet Saturday in April 1965,

0:06:20 > 0:06:24hundreds of fans thronged the streets around the church in Dublin

0:06:24 > 0:06:26as the golden couple tied the knot.

0:06:29 > 0:06:31If he and Helen came into a room,

0:06:31 > 0:06:34it was really sort of like a royal arrival.

0:06:34 > 0:06:38Everybody stopped and there was a certain amount

0:06:38 > 0:06:42of ducking of heads because... Not because of anything they were doing,

0:06:42 > 0:06:45just because there was this natural aura as they came in.

0:06:46 > 0:06:49They had never had any home-grown stars in Ireland.

0:06:49 > 0:06:51Suddenly, the television came

0:06:51 > 0:06:54and you were a major star in this little island.

0:06:55 > 0:06:59Then I thought, "Well, I'm a big fish in a small pond and I'd like...

0:06:59 > 0:07:03"There are things I can do..." I thought I could do in Britain

0:07:03 > 0:07:06that I could not see myself doing in Ireland.

0:07:06 > 0:07:12I think some people are too big for an island this size,

0:07:12 > 0:07:14and he was one of those people.

0:07:15 > 0:07:18Terry swiftly found work on BBC radio

0:07:18 > 0:07:22and 50 years ago this week began presenting on the Light Programme.

0:07:22 > 0:07:24I think Terry was blessed

0:07:24 > 0:07:29with four prongs of attack with which to seduce us. He was given

0:07:29 > 0:07:33everything he needed - the wit, the smile, the voice

0:07:33 > 0:07:35and the twinkle in his eye.

0:07:37 > 0:07:39# This is Radio 2. #

0:07:39 > 0:07:41However, it wasn't until 1972

0:07:41 > 0:07:43that he would take over the show

0:07:43 > 0:07:45that would turn him into a household name.

0:07:45 > 0:07:47And a very good morning to you.

0:07:47 > 0:07:50The time on Radio 2, 17 minutes past eight.

0:07:52 > 0:07:55I started listening to Terry Wogan at breakfast

0:07:55 > 0:07:57when I was six years old.

0:07:59 > 0:08:02And I remember we had this Dormobile that I was driven to school in.

0:08:02 > 0:08:05My dad drove every morning and it was on Radio 2.

0:08:05 > 0:08:08So I heard Terry every morning.

0:08:08 > 0:08:10You're welcome to the Thursday thrash.

0:08:10 > 0:08:13Thursday the 8th November.

0:08:13 > 0:08:14Good morning, Terence.

0:08:14 > 0:08:18I really vividly remember him playing Money, Money, Money by Abba

0:08:18 > 0:08:20when I was about seven or eight years old.

0:08:20 > 0:08:24# Money, money, money Must be funny... #

0:08:24 > 0:08:27It's 18 minutes to ten o'clock and after ten,

0:08:27 > 0:08:29the old broadcaster takes over...

0:08:31 > 0:08:35That voice was so embedded in all of us.

0:08:35 > 0:08:40It's like an instant familiarity with childhood, with comforting.

0:08:40 > 0:08:42That's what I think when I think of Terry,

0:08:42 > 0:08:47I think of comfort because he just had such a soothing way about him.

0:08:47 > 0:08:51Resurfacing work is starting today on the A423M.

0:08:51 > 0:08:54The message is, "Please, just be patient."

0:08:54 > 0:08:58And listen to Radio 2. You'll find it'll calm your nerves.

0:08:58 > 0:09:00I always used to think, with his voice,

0:09:00 > 0:09:04that you didn't really need to hear what he was saying.

0:09:04 > 0:09:06It was just the music of his voice.

0:09:07 > 0:09:10Would you talk amongst yourselves, listeners, for just a moment?

0:09:10 > 0:09:12And I'll see if I can get this on the other turntable.

0:09:12 > 0:09:14That's the only one that's working at the moment.

0:09:14 > 0:09:17I would often be in the shower and it would be on

0:09:17 > 0:09:20and I couldn't hear him, but you'd hear...

0:09:20 > 0:09:24HE MUTTERS

0:09:24 > 0:09:27TERRY MUTTERS

0:09:27 > 0:09:31And it was, kind of, relaxing and reassuring.

0:09:31 > 0:09:33His voice, a very reassuring voice.

0:09:33 > 0:09:36We've had our technical problems this morning

0:09:36 > 0:09:38but I hope they didn't come between you and your breakfast.

0:09:38 > 0:09:42I don't know if he was the voice of the nuclear warning,

0:09:42 > 0:09:46but I feel, if he had been, it would have been a sort of silver lining...

0:09:46 > 0:09:48to a mushroom cloud.

0:09:48 > 0:09:50# Terry Wogan... #

0:09:50 > 0:09:52When I started at Radio 2,

0:09:52 > 0:09:56they had this big lavish dinner and I got sat very near Terry.

0:09:56 > 0:09:59He said, "Listen, I'm not going to give you much advice

0:09:59 > 0:10:02"but the one piece of advice I would give you is,

0:10:02 > 0:10:03"never be afraid of the silence."

0:10:03 > 0:10:07Ie, breathe. Let it breathe.

0:10:07 > 0:10:10For most broadcasters, that breath would feel like an eternity,

0:10:10 > 0:10:14but with Terry, you were just waiting for him to talk again.

0:10:14 > 0:10:17Now, that's more like it, you see.

0:10:19 > 0:10:22Audiences loved him.

0:10:22 > 0:10:24And when Terry started singing along

0:10:24 > 0:10:27to unlikely chart hit The Floral Dance on his radio show,

0:10:27 > 0:10:31it proved so popular that he released his own version.

0:10:31 > 0:10:32# ..Big bass drum... #

0:10:32 > 0:10:34That is another amazing moment

0:10:34 > 0:10:38where Terry is not taking himself seriously in the slightest.

0:10:38 > 0:10:40That's what I always loved about him.

0:10:40 > 0:10:43I don't think I ever saw him in a serious mood

0:10:43 > 0:10:45or being serious about himself.

0:10:45 > 0:10:48# ..Borne from afar on a gentle breeze

0:10:48 > 0:10:50# Joining the murmur of summer seas... #

0:10:50 > 0:10:54He always came to a piece of music with an attitude.

0:10:54 > 0:10:57He always came to information with an attitude.

0:10:57 > 0:11:00And I think that's what made him on the radio

0:11:00 > 0:11:04such a kind of multi-layered, satisfying listen.

0:11:04 > 0:11:07And Terry used that attitude to great effect

0:11:07 > 0:11:11when his barbed comments on American soap opera Dallas

0:11:11 > 0:11:12helped turn it into a hit.

0:11:12 > 0:11:14We're back to Dallas.

0:11:14 > 0:11:16God help us!

0:11:16 > 0:11:18I can't seem to get away from the place.

0:11:18 > 0:11:20It's like living in Texas here.

0:11:20 > 0:11:24He took the characters, he made more of them.

0:11:24 > 0:11:26Sue Ellen was putting gin in her cornflakes.

0:11:26 > 0:11:29Lucy became the poison dwarf.

0:11:29 > 0:11:32He just...he expanded the characters that were on screen

0:11:32 > 0:11:34and made people want to watch it

0:11:34 > 0:11:37and then hear what he had to say the following day.

0:11:37 > 0:11:40Because he was bringing people into his club

0:11:40 > 0:11:42and that's what he did brilliantly,

0:11:42 > 0:11:44he was a great leader, a gang leader, if you like.

0:11:44 > 0:11:45Are you in any way in fact

0:11:45 > 0:11:49putting your power to the test over your listeners

0:11:49 > 0:11:51and trying to make them watch something

0:11:51 > 0:11:54that you are particularly interested in?

0:11:54 > 0:11:56You can't force people to watch things, no,

0:11:56 > 0:11:59any more than you can force people to buy a record.

0:11:59 > 0:12:01It doesn't matter how often you play it -

0:12:01 > 0:12:03if they don't want it, they won't buy it.

0:12:03 > 0:12:06I will say things obviously to try and generate a response.

0:12:06 > 0:12:11I will say something and hopefully get people to latch on to it

0:12:11 > 0:12:12and provide me with my script.

0:12:12 > 0:12:15Otherwise, as I said, I'd be sitting here mumchance.

0:12:18 > 0:12:19'We'll be fighting the flab this very minute

0:12:19 > 0:12:22'because it's quarter to eight and I have a room full of people'

0:12:22 > 0:12:24who are only too willing to get into their leotards

0:12:24 > 0:12:26and shake their shoulders about.

0:12:26 > 0:12:30He absolutely understood Middle England, if you want.

0:12:30 > 0:12:33Just for a couple of hours in the morning, you could forget about

0:12:33 > 0:12:35everything else that was going on

0:12:35 > 0:12:38and just enter that parallel universe that was Wogan's world.

0:12:38 > 0:12:40I don't want anybody corpsed by this fight on flab.

0:12:40 > 0:12:43It's an exercise designed to whittle down the shoulders

0:12:43 > 0:12:45cos there's little more unsightly than a flabby shoulder.

0:12:46 > 0:12:49The reason he connected with his audience on the radio

0:12:49 > 0:12:52was because he knew that it made it his show.

0:12:52 > 0:12:56He knew it made a difference to whether they were happy in the morning or not.

0:12:56 > 0:12:58Seven or eight million Brits finishing at half nine

0:12:58 > 0:13:00happier than they were at half seven.

0:13:02 > 0:13:04That's the Bee Gee Sisters.

0:13:04 > 0:13:06Famously, somebody once said to Terry,

0:13:06 > 0:13:08"How many listeners do you have?"

0:13:08 > 0:13:12And he could have said eight or nine or ten million, or whatever it was,

0:13:12 > 0:13:14but he said, "One."

0:13:14 > 0:13:16I'll always remember that as a broadcaster

0:13:16 > 0:13:19because I thought that is the secret.

0:13:19 > 0:13:22He's not a broadcaster, he's a narrow-caster.

0:13:22 > 0:13:24It's him and you and there's no-one else

0:13:24 > 0:13:27and you really feel like he's talking down the phone to you almost.

0:13:27 > 0:13:30Well, that's the height of it for another day.

0:13:30 > 0:13:33Thank you very much for your company between seven and nine on Radio 2.

0:13:35 > 0:13:37It's disco.

0:13:37 > 0:13:40Having conquered radio, the next step was television

0:13:40 > 0:13:43where he appeared on a wide variety of entertainment shows.

0:13:43 > 0:13:45'And the man with all the questions,

0:13:45 > 0:13:48'and some of the answers, is Terry Wogan.'

0:13:48 > 0:13:51I told you, a television, radio personality.

0:13:51 > 0:13:53Will you just say something in your voice that they'll all recognise?

0:13:53 > 0:13:57Would you like to lie down on the floor and fight the flab with me?

0:13:57 > 0:13:59Terry Wogan, yes!

0:13:59 > 0:14:03Terry's most successful job on TV during the '70s

0:14:03 > 0:14:06was a seven-year stint as presenter of Come Dancing.

0:14:06 > 0:14:09Hello, and welcome to the grand final

0:14:09 > 0:14:12of the 1974 series of Come Dancing.

0:14:12 > 0:14:17Oh, yes, frilly shirt, big bowtie, velvet jacket.

0:14:17 > 0:14:20That's what's great with Terry Wogan.

0:14:20 > 0:14:23It didn't matter what he went into, you know,

0:14:23 > 0:14:28he was great at it because he gave his all to everything he did.

0:14:28 > 0:14:29And I think that's the secret.

0:14:29 > 0:14:33However, despite being hugely popular,

0:14:33 > 0:14:36he still needed a breakthrough TV hit.

0:14:36 > 0:14:38It arrived in 1979.

0:14:38 > 0:14:40'Terry Wogan!'

0:14:42 > 0:14:45It was the moment he knew he was a star.

0:14:45 > 0:14:47He said, prior to that, whenever he'd done television,

0:14:47 > 0:14:50he was always told how to find the camera.

0:14:50 > 0:14:53You stand there to find the camera. To find your light.

0:14:53 > 0:14:57And Blankety Blank was the first time he realised

0:14:57 > 0:14:59the camera was following him.

0:14:59 > 0:15:03What's small and green and covered with red spots?

0:15:03 > 0:15:05An unripe...

0:15:05 > 0:15:06raspberry.

0:15:06 > 0:15:09- An unripe...?- Raspberry?- Raspberry!

0:15:13 > 0:15:16LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:15:21 > 0:15:24Well, let's see how many points David gets with this one.

0:15:24 > 0:15:27Blankety Blank was absolutely perfect for him,

0:15:27 > 0:15:29because it was about words,

0:15:29 > 0:15:31so he could be mischievous,

0:15:31 > 0:15:34he could act as if he didn't understand what was going on,

0:15:34 > 0:15:40or whatever, but Terry and words went together like milk and tea.

0:15:40 > 0:15:45The show really depended more heavily than most game shows

0:15:45 > 0:15:48on the personality of the host...

0:15:48 > 0:15:52with the celebrity guests bouncing off him, him bouncing off them,

0:15:52 > 0:15:54it was just a wonderful half hour

0:15:54 > 0:15:57of nonsense, complete nonsense.

0:15:57 > 0:16:02Nobody pretending it's anything other than a very, very silly quiz.

0:16:02 > 0:16:04What I like about it is it's a kind of anti-quiz.

0:16:04 > 0:16:06The prizes are not worth winning,

0:16:06 > 0:16:08the questions are not worth asking

0:16:08 > 0:16:10and the whole thing is probably not worth doing.

0:16:10 > 0:16:12Look at that. Every move a poem...

0:16:12 > 0:16:16With Terry at the helm, Blankety Blank's ratings soared,

0:16:16 > 0:16:18to over 20 million viewers.

0:16:18 > 0:16:20Aren't you the saucy crew this week?

0:16:20 > 0:16:23And stars of the day flocked to be on the show.

0:16:23 > 0:16:25I hope Santa Claus gave you what you wanted for Christmas.

0:16:25 > 0:16:27I asked for six stars.

0:16:27 > 0:16:29He was the first person on television

0:16:29 > 0:16:33to take the mickey out of the celebrity guests.

0:16:33 > 0:16:36And that's what made Blankety Blank a great game show.

0:16:36 > 0:16:38It wasn't the format or the guests,

0:16:38 > 0:16:41it was because Terry was going for the guests all the time.

0:16:41 > 0:16:44Don't say anything until we get the "Ready" signs from...

0:16:46 > 0:16:48..these highly trained gerbils here!

0:16:49 > 0:16:51I just liked off-script Terry.

0:16:51 > 0:16:55I just like... "I'm going to do what I want because I can.

0:16:55 > 0:16:57"I know what I'm doing. Don't worry, I'm just going to have

0:16:57 > 0:17:00"a little moment away from the script, but I've got this!"

0:17:00 > 0:17:02Can I offer another prize to the gentleman?

0:17:02 > 0:17:03I'm in the theatre at Newcastle.

0:17:03 > 0:17:06I've got four tickets for his family, yeah?

0:17:06 > 0:17:07- On me.- Thanks very much.

0:17:07 > 0:17:10APPLAUSE

0:17:13 > 0:17:14That's a prize?!

0:17:16 > 0:17:18He knew all about timing.

0:17:18 > 0:17:20He knew everything about timing.

0:17:20 > 0:17:23He would never step on a punchline or anything like that.

0:17:23 > 0:17:26No, no. He was far too classy for that.

0:17:26 > 0:17:27- Bazza?- Yes, Tezza?

0:17:29 > 0:17:31Well, he had a love of laughter, for a start.

0:17:31 > 0:17:33He had a love of comedy.

0:17:33 > 0:17:35And he was never a flippant man.

0:17:35 > 0:17:37He was serious about serious things.

0:17:37 > 0:17:42But if there was a funny angle to any situation, he would spot it.

0:17:42 > 0:17:44He loved the other person getting the laugh.

0:17:44 > 0:17:45Are you going to read it again?

0:17:45 > 0:17:48- No.- Oh. Trouble with your Rs, eh?

0:17:48 > 0:17:53He would blatantly feed you, hoping you would come back at him.

0:17:53 > 0:17:55Why do you think I have to wear these dark suits?

0:17:55 > 0:17:58If the jokes die, you're dressed for it, aren't you?

0:17:59 > 0:18:02He may well have been one or two steps ahead.

0:18:02 > 0:18:05He would never create that impression for the viewer or the listener,

0:18:05 > 0:18:07cos that would have been

0:18:07 > 0:18:09ungentlemanly towards the performer.

0:18:09 > 0:18:11I don't have to do this for a living.

0:18:13 > 0:18:15I could have been...a brain surgeon or anything.

0:18:15 > 0:18:18- A disc jockey!- I could have been a disc jockey, yes!

0:18:18 > 0:18:20- You could still be. - I could still be...

0:18:23 > 0:18:27He had wit, and wit is basically the intelligence of comedy.

0:18:27 > 0:18:31And that's... Very few people, very few DJs have that.

0:18:31 > 0:18:34Maybe he's the only one that's ever had that.

0:18:37 > 0:18:41This was the dawn of a decade of extraordinary success for Terry.

0:18:44 > 0:18:47Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to whatever it's called this week.

0:18:47 > 0:18:49Terry Wogan wasn't just

0:18:49 > 0:18:52the face of light entertainment in the '80s for me.

0:18:52 > 0:18:55He was the yardstick.

0:18:55 > 0:18:58He was the nation's darling.

0:18:58 > 0:19:01From the Queen to the guy who sells papers.

0:19:01 > 0:19:03In Piccadilly. They all loved him.

0:19:03 > 0:19:05And quite rightly so.

0:19:05 > 0:19:08He had that thing a lot of people don't have, charm.

0:19:08 > 0:19:09Charm personified.

0:19:09 > 0:19:12APPLAUSE

0:19:12 > 0:19:15He's spoken of as a god.

0:19:15 > 0:19:17"God, is he on again", they say!

0:19:19 > 0:19:21By 1981 he had achieved the double,

0:19:21 > 0:19:23presenting the most popular programmes

0:19:23 > 0:19:26on British radio and television.

0:19:26 > 0:19:29He was also voted most popular television personality

0:19:29 > 0:19:31ten years in a row.

0:19:31 > 0:19:34In typical Wogan style then asking not to be entered again,

0:19:34 > 0:19:36so someone else could have a chance.

0:19:36 > 0:19:39A poll rated the Queen and Prince Charles

0:19:39 > 0:19:41as the only people in Britain more famous.

0:19:41 > 0:19:44Now, Wogan. And he'll be doing very well

0:19:44 > 0:19:45if he gets down in three or four from here.

0:19:45 > 0:19:50And he even made history as the sinker of the longest-ever televised putt,

0:19:50 > 0:19:52a record he held for 22 years.

0:19:52 > 0:19:54It can't... Ha-ha!

0:19:55 > 0:19:58The greatest putt I've ever seen in my life!

0:19:58 > 0:20:01Well, he'd go on about that one when we'd had a couple

0:20:01 > 0:20:04and I got, "James. Well, James, now, listen, just to mention..."

0:20:04 > 0:20:06"Shut up! I don't want to know about the putt."

0:20:06 > 0:20:08I'd have given anything for it to have been me.

0:20:08 > 0:20:11Here we have a disc jockey, singer,

0:20:11 > 0:20:13golfer, elephant rider...

0:20:13 > 0:20:16- Sex symbol.- Sex symbol, compere, star tipster.

0:20:16 > 0:20:18- Good to his mother. - Good to his mother.

0:20:18 > 0:20:21Dare I ask you what Terry Wogan's ultimate ambition is?

0:20:24 > 0:20:27I'd hate to have an ultimate ambition.

0:20:27 > 0:20:30I have ambitions that take me from year to year.

0:20:30 > 0:20:32Things I would like to do.

0:20:32 > 0:20:34It's a funny thing, when I started in radio,

0:20:34 > 0:20:37I was ambitious to be a radio announcer in Ireland.

0:20:37 > 0:20:39And now look at me.

0:20:39 > 0:20:40Gone straight downhill.

0:20:42 > 0:20:45But Terry's huge popularity coincided with

0:20:45 > 0:20:48one of the most volatile periods in British history.

0:20:48 > 0:20:50Four people are dead and dozens injured

0:20:50 > 0:20:53after the bomb at the Conservative Party hotel in Brighton.

0:20:53 > 0:20:56But the IRA failed in what they set out to do.

0:20:56 > 0:20:59Bear in mind, Terry was there

0:20:59 > 0:21:03broadcasting at the height of the Troubles in Ireland,

0:21:03 > 0:21:07bombings in England as well by the IRA.

0:21:07 > 0:21:11That was a difficult time to face a British nation.

0:21:12 > 0:21:19What if you're an Irish man, woman, boy, girl in the UK in the 1970s?

0:21:19 > 0:21:21And indeed the 1980s.

0:21:21 > 0:21:23And there's a bombing campaign going on.

0:21:23 > 0:21:27And that bombing campaign is going on, committed by other Irish people.

0:21:27 > 0:21:32And you have to go to work on a Monday morning and it's raining,

0:21:32 > 0:21:33and a bomb went off at the weekend

0:21:33 > 0:21:36and people are thinking, "Those Irish."

0:21:36 > 0:21:37And it's ugly.

0:21:37 > 0:21:40And yet, as you're driving to that same office,

0:21:40 > 0:21:43you're listening to a man with an Irish accent.

0:21:43 > 0:21:46So it can be very difficult if you have bombs in a Birmingham pub

0:21:46 > 0:21:50and then you have to come up with a cheery, unmistakably Irish voice

0:21:50 > 0:21:54at the end of the bulletin and introduce a record.

0:21:54 > 0:21:58But if you started to dwell on that, you'd never do anything.

0:21:58 > 0:22:00Of course he broke down barriers.

0:22:00 > 0:22:02Of course he showed that things were possible.

0:22:02 > 0:22:06Whatever your background is, to have one of your own lead the way,

0:22:06 > 0:22:10fly the flag, is a tremendous inspiration for those who follow.

0:22:10 > 0:22:15And I think Terry was very touched by the fact that he had this role,

0:22:15 > 0:22:19if you like, of an unofficial ambassador.

0:22:19 > 0:22:22I think he probably did as much for the Irish in Britain

0:22:22 > 0:22:26as any diplomat that passed through the doors of the Irish Embassy.

0:22:28 > 0:22:29Good morning!

0:22:29 > 0:22:32Now at the top of his profession,

0:22:32 > 0:22:34Terry still revelled in new challenges.

0:22:34 > 0:22:37In 1980, his fascination with Dallas

0:22:37 > 0:22:41had led to a television interview with its star, Larry Hagman,

0:22:41 > 0:22:44at a time when the world was wondering who shot JR.

0:22:44 > 0:22:45Will you live?

0:22:45 > 0:22:46Yeah, well, I tell you,

0:22:46 > 0:22:49they'll be in a hell of a lot of trouble if I don't!

0:22:49 > 0:22:52LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE

0:22:54 > 0:22:56The BBC were impressed

0:22:56 > 0:23:00and, with the departure of Michael Parkinson in 1982,

0:23:00 > 0:23:02they needed a new chat show host.

0:23:02 > 0:23:04Terry was the obvious choice.

0:23:04 > 0:23:06Thank you, ladies and gentlemen.

0:23:06 > 0:23:07Obviously, it's the first in the series,

0:23:07 > 0:23:10so there's going to be blind panic and there already is!

0:23:10 > 0:23:12But I hope you'll enjoy it more than I will.

0:23:12 > 0:23:14No, I'm sure we'll all enjoy it.

0:23:14 > 0:23:17It was absolutely a cornerstone of the BBC One schedules.

0:23:17 > 0:23:23And within a year, we had ITV in disarray, very, very quickly.

0:23:23 > 0:23:26And it was a huge, hugely successful project.

0:23:26 > 0:23:30The Wogan show in the evening was revolutionary.

0:23:30 > 0:23:35It moved from a Saturday night Parkinson-type slot

0:23:35 > 0:23:40to three nights a week - Monday, Wednesday, Friday - on the BBC.

0:23:40 > 0:23:41And this had never been done before.

0:23:41 > 0:23:44Going out live, it was a daring prospect.

0:23:44 > 0:23:47But something had to give.

0:23:47 > 0:23:50After 12 years, Terry took the tough decision

0:23:50 > 0:23:53to step down from his Radio 2 breakfast show.

0:23:53 > 0:23:55- APPLAUSE DIES DOWN - Oh, you've stopped.

0:23:57 > 0:23:58The all-new BBC.

0:23:58 > 0:24:02And they have to rely on somebody like me to start it.

0:24:02 > 0:24:03Welcome to the beginning

0:24:03 > 0:24:06of what I hope will be a long and happy relationship.

0:24:08 > 0:24:09Terry had made the right choice.

0:24:09 > 0:24:11Wogan was a hit.

0:24:11 > 0:24:13Oh, Wogan!

0:24:13 > 0:24:16Drawing an average of eight million viewers a night

0:24:16 > 0:24:19and crowning its host the king of television.

0:24:19 > 0:24:221 million for your next movie.

0:24:22 > 0:24:23Wow!

0:24:24 > 0:24:26In fact, Terry...

0:24:28 > 0:24:30- Is it Terry?- Yes, it is.

0:24:30 > 0:24:35His chat show was on at a time, I think,

0:24:35 > 0:24:40right towards the end of stars having mystery about them.

0:24:41 > 0:24:45When he had the big American stars on, it was a big deal.

0:24:45 > 0:24:47Do you have an ideal man?

0:24:48 > 0:24:51Well, I worked with many partners

0:24:51 > 0:24:54and an ideal man would be...

0:24:54 > 0:24:56a man with the eyes of Paul Newman,

0:24:56 > 0:24:59the nose of Gregory Peck

0:24:59 > 0:25:01and the...

0:25:05 > 0:25:11..the nice, wonderful, slim figure of Mr Wogan.

0:25:11 > 0:25:12Do you know...

0:25:13 > 0:25:16He didn't do interviews. He chatted.

0:25:16 > 0:25:19But he gave you the impression it was easy.

0:25:19 > 0:25:21It didn't look like work when he did it.

0:25:21 > 0:25:25And so you did kind of think, presumably anyone can do that.

0:25:25 > 0:25:28Look at him. He's just a man in a suit, chatting.

0:25:29 > 0:25:33And I think that was really what he communicated to an audience.

0:25:33 > 0:25:35But they don't seem to make any...

0:25:36 > 0:25:39..concession to the fact that you're a woman.

0:25:39 > 0:25:41No, why should they?

0:25:41 > 0:25:44I don't make any concession to the fact that they are men.

0:25:46 > 0:25:49He listened. It was never about him.

0:25:49 > 0:25:53And yet, every now and again, he'd flash the steel.

0:25:53 > 0:25:56And every now and again he'd say something or do something

0:25:56 > 0:26:00that you'd think, not only is he listening, but he...

0:26:00 > 0:26:02doesn't particularly like that person.

0:26:03 > 0:26:05- May I finish?- Yes, but I'm... Yes...

0:26:05 > 0:26:09But I don't entirely accept that psychological point, as I say.

0:26:09 > 0:26:11I understand. But may I finish?

0:26:11 > 0:26:13Well, yes, if you have a point to make...

0:26:13 > 0:26:15Yes, I do have a point to make. Thank you.

0:26:15 > 0:26:19And when you watch him in one of those interviews,

0:26:19 > 0:26:21with Anne Bancroft or something,

0:26:21 > 0:26:23which..it's just...

0:26:23 > 0:26:26I'm there, I'm thinking, oh, oh!

0:26:26 > 0:26:30But I care more as a viewer than Terry did as a host.

0:26:30 > 0:26:32Why do you hate this kind of thing so much?

0:26:32 > 0:26:34Is it... Is it me?

0:26:34 > 0:26:36- Probably.- It's probably me.

0:26:36 > 0:26:39It's not the dried flowers or anything?

0:26:39 > 0:26:42- That, too.- Do you do any of this stuff in America?

0:26:42 > 0:26:45- Would you ever do a talk show? - No.- Are you glad you did this one?

0:26:45 > 0:26:46No.

0:26:47 > 0:26:53And also, although Anne Bancroft was clearly not enjoying it,

0:26:53 > 0:26:55he didn't torture her.

0:26:55 > 0:26:58He kind of let her be that bad on a talk show.

0:26:58 > 0:27:01Because that's how she wanted to be.

0:27:01 > 0:27:05And that was his way of coping,

0:27:05 > 0:27:09was to just roll his eyes and go, "Oh, well, there you go."

0:27:09 > 0:27:11Watch two interviews, I often think.

0:27:11 > 0:27:14If you watch him talking to Gene Wilder,

0:27:14 > 0:27:16there's two fellas...

0:27:17 > 0:27:21..who are like-minded souls. It is chat show heaven.

0:27:21 > 0:27:24Was it the love of a good woman that converted you?

0:27:24 > 0:27:27Or have you just grown in experience and knowledge of women?

0:27:27 > 0:27:32No, it was the love of several good women, but...

0:27:32 > 0:27:34- You're boasting, now, you see... - No, no, no.

0:27:34 > 0:27:37Several can mean more than two.

0:27:37 > 0:27:39No, no, several is five or six.

0:27:40 > 0:27:42Or possibly 10 or 20.

0:27:44 > 0:27:45All right, have it your way.

0:27:46 > 0:27:48And you watch that, you could see Terry loved him.

0:27:48 > 0:27:50He was really interested in what he had to say.

0:27:50 > 0:27:54And Wilder was intrigued by, I suppose, the twinkle in the eye

0:27:54 > 0:27:57and the interesting questions and so on. Lovely.

0:27:57 > 0:27:59Then you bring out Bette Davis.

0:27:59 > 0:28:01And halfway through the interview,

0:28:01 > 0:28:04she points to the book and starts saying,

0:28:04 > 0:28:06"When are we going to talk about my book?"

0:28:06 > 0:28:08You have to ask me about my book.

0:28:10 > 0:28:13Watch his reaction, because funnily enough, in some respects,

0:28:13 > 0:28:15the light went off.

0:28:15 > 0:28:17I came on this show to sell a book.

0:28:17 > 0:28:19I am in England to sell a book.

0:28:19 > 0:28:21Oh, I don't know. We're glad to see you,

0:28:21 > 0:28:23whether you've come to sell a book or not.

0:28:23 > 0:28:25I think he felt the chat show might have died there.

0:28:25 > 0:28:30And I think a little bit of him became disillusioned with the chat show.

0:28:30 > 0:28:32Having paused for that brief commercial...

0:28:32 > 0:28:36'I seethed inwardly quite a lot.'

0:28:36 > 0:28:40But my iron self-control and early training by Jesuits

0:28:40 > 0:28:44stopped me ever really losing my temper.

0:28:44 > 0:28:46I did feel, of course, like giving people a slap.

0:28:46 > 0:28:48But I never actually did.

0:28:48 > 0:28:51And I think, full marks to me, because quite often

0:28:51 > 0:28:55I had plenty of grounds for giving people a good slap.

0:28:55 > 0:28:58If life on Wogan could be unpredictable,

0:28:58 > 0:29:03Terry's home life with Helen was unswervingly rock-solid.

0:29:03 > 0:29:05I suppose people like me are driven...

0:29:06 > 0:29:08..by God knows what force,

0:29:08 > 0:29:11perhaps it's ambition, but ambition for yourself...

0:29:11 > 0:29:13is not a very laudable thing.

0:29:13 > 0:29:18If you have somebody behind you who gives you all the support

0:29:18 > 0:29:21and love and more than you could possibly use...

0:29:23 > 0:29:29..then it's no great shakes to me that I'm standing up here.

0:29:29 > 0:29:34It's mainly due to her, and I'd like to thank Helen for that.

0:29:34 > 0:29:37APPLAUSE

0:29:38 > 0:29:43Theirs was a happy home, but not without its sadness.

0:29:43 > 0:29:45They lost their first child at only three weeks old.

0:29:47 > 0:29:51You remember a little bit of the pain because that never goes,

0:29:51 > 0:29:53never forget that.

0:29:53 > 0:29:55You ask why it should happen to you, of course.

0:29:55 > 0:29:59As you go through life, you realise it's a lottery anyway

0:29:59 > 0:30:03and that I've been luckier than most in my life.

0:30:03 > 0:30:05I'm not going to knock it.

0:30:07 > 0:30:10Terry and Helen went on to have three more children,

0:30:10 > 0:30:11who Terry adored.

0:30:17 > 0:30:22His real secret weapon was Lady Helen and the family at home,

0:30:22 > 0:30:26because he was always so stable and they gave him the confidence

0:30:26 > 0:30:29and the foundation and the security.

0:30:29 > 0:30:31He knew what was important in life.

0:30:31 > 0:30:34Everybody felt that Terry was their friend,

0:30:34 > 0:30:36but on the other hand, actually, he was very private.

0:30:36 > 0:30:38You didn't know much about him.

0:30:38 > 0:30:40You knew as much as he would let you know.

0:30:40 > 0:30:42Working with him for 15 years,

0:30:42 > 0:30:44I knew very little about him.

0:30:44 > 0:30:46Really a very private man.

0:30:46 > 0:30:50He didn't really have much time for producers and directors.

0:30:50 > 0:30:53He wasn't one for going for a drink with the lads afterwards.

0:30:53 > 0:30:55His love was for the audience

0:30:55 > 0:30:58and for his family, and that was it, really.

0:30:58 > 0:31:00- All right?! - INDISTINCT OFF CAMERA

0:31:00 > 0:31:02No, it's all right.

0:31:02 > 0:31:04I was lucky enough, together with my wife, Ruth,

0:31:04 > 0:31:07to be invited into his home.

0:31:07 > 0:31:11This is a man who has interviewed hundreds and hundreds

0:31:11 > 0:31:13of very, very famous people,

0:31:13 > 0:31:15and there were loads of photographs in his house,

0:31:15 > 0:31:19pictures, pictures, pictures, pictures everywhere.

0:31:19 > 0:31:23But as far as I could see, not one with anybody famous.

0:31:23 > 0:31:28It was his family, his sons, his daughter, his grandchildren,

0:31:28 > 0:31:31and I think that really is the essence of the man.

0:31:33 > 0:31:35My philosophy has always been - this is what I do.

0:31:35 > 0:31:40I do it and then I go home and have my dinner.

0:31:41 > 0:31:43The most important thing in your life is your family.

0:31:43 > 0:31:46The rest, as they say, is just peripheral.

0:31:49 > 0:31:52That stability at home became even more important

0:31:52 > 0:31:55when his show Wogan was cancelled in 1992.

0:31:55 > 0:32:01For about the 100...1,000... 251st time, welcome to Wogan.

0:32:01 > 0:32:04Aware that the show was flagging,

0:32:04 > 0:32:09Terry had wanted it to end the previous year, but the BBC refused,

0:32:09 > 0:32:13only to pull the plug, unceremoniously, a year later.

0:32:13 > 0:32:14And that's it.

0:32:14 > 0:32:17Thanks to all my guests, all 4,008.

0:32:17 > 0:32:21All that's left now are the memories.

0:32:21 > 0:32:26He felt he knew when he'd come to the end of something.

0:32:26 > 0:32:29Buenos noches. Goodnight, thank you.

0:32:29 > 0:32:33He always believed that you leave before they give you the sack,

0:32:33 > 0:32:36or before they get fed up with you.

0:32:36 > 0:32:40And he was more than happy to finish the chat shows a bit earlier.

0:32:41 > 0:32:44Most importantly, and this is a lesson

0:32:44 > 0:32:46he would teach any broadcaster, is he survived.

0:32:46 > 0:32:49And even when he did kind of get the bullet,

0:32:49 > 0:32:54let's face it, on the chat show, where it just had run its course,

0:32:54 > 0:32:57what did they put on instead of it?

0:32:57 > 0:33:00Eldorado. How did that work out for you?

0:33:00 > 0:33:02Yes, all right.

0:33:02 > 0:33:05'I was angry with what had happened, as you would be,

0:33:05 > 0:33:08'and in a sense, that's what moulds you.

0:33:08 > 0:33:11'You think, "OK, that's never going to happen again.

0:33:11 > 0:33:12' "I'll make my own timings." '

0:33:12 > 0:33:14There you are, you see.

0:33:14 > 0:33:16'But I'm not going to be defeated.

0:33:16 > 0:33:18'I don't recognise failure.'

0:33:18 > 0:33:23He made a remark to me once about being unfaithful to radio.

0:33:23 > 0:33:27He'd had an affair. He'd had an affair in public with television.

0:33:27 > 0:33:30"And I'm going back home now."

0:33:31 > 0:33:36# BBC Radio 2... #

0:33:36 > 0:33:38Have a pencil and paper handy.

0:33:38 > 0:33:40And your brain in gear.

0:33:40 > 0:33:43Terry did indeed go home, to radio,

0:33:43 > 0:33:46where his presence was as welcome to his colleagues

0:33:46 > 0:33:48as it was to his delighted audience.

0:33:48 > 0:33:52Terry was a man who was almost always in a good mood.

0:33:52 > 0:33:55He and I would turn up at sort of 5.30 in the morning,

0:33:55 > 0:33:58feeling less than enthusiastic, or even subhuman.

0:33:58 > 0:34:02- Yeah, no, I can vouch for that. - You probably saw that.

0:34:02 > 0:34:05He would turn up, and within five or ten minutes,

0:34:05 > 0:34:06- you were having a great time.- Yes.

0:34:06 > 0:34:10And that applied to everyone that was listening to him as well.

0:34:10 > 0:34:12By now, Wake Up To Wogan

0:34:12 > 0:34:15was the most listened to radio show in Europe

0:34:15 > 0:34:18and a new army of fans had mustered,

0:34:18 > 0:34:21the Togs, or Terry's Old Geezers and Gals.

0:34:21 > 0:34:23Norman, I think you're chief Tog.

0:34:23 > 0:34:24What does Tog stand for?

0:34:24 > 0:34:28Togs, well, we always love Sir Terry, it's a state of mind.

0:34:28 > 0:34:32It's taking a wry look at life, and a non-PC look,

0:34:32 > 0:34:34and generally, whatever age you are, having a good time.

0:34:34 > 0:34:39I think the Wogan magic was the bond between him and the audience.

0:34:39 > 0:34:40It was unbreakable.

0:34:40 > 0:34:43They adored him and he adored them.

0:34:43 > 0:34:46www.bbc.co.uk...

0:34:46 > 0:34:49He never seemed aware of how popular he was.

0:34:49 > 0:34:50He liked being liked.

0:34:50 > 0:34:55Never had any trace of how famous he was or anything.

0:34:55 > 0:34:58And it wasn't elaborate false modesty.

0:34:58 > 0:35:00I got to know the man. It was genuine.

0:35:00 > 0:35:03It's a helter-skelter ride on Radio 2.

0:35:03 > 0:35:06- THEY SPEAK OVER EACH OTHER - Crazy!- I've done it again.

0:35:06 > 0:35:07- You have.- Yes...

0:35:07 > 0:35:12Terry is not one for doing an awful lot of pre-preparation

0:35:12 > 0:35:14and he didn't need to.

0:35:14 > 0:35:21He had this really excellent ability to communicate with people

0:35:21 > 0:35:23and sort of get inside them, and you felt

0:35:23 > 0:35:26you were listening to a friend when you listened to him.

0:35:26 > 0:35:29The trains are coming in... overcrowded on the platform.

0:35:29 > 0:35:33There was a Tube strike, so I had to run into work,

0:35:33 > 0:35:34so I got my gym kit on

0:35:34 > 0:35:37and I ran six miles across Hyde Park and everything, get to Radio 2,

0:35:37 > 0:35:41stand by the lift, and I'm aware of this presence beside me,

0:35:41 > 0:35:45and I look round and it's Terry in his perfectly pressed vanilla suit

0:35:45 > 0:35:47with his briefcase. We go into the lift

0:35:47 > 0:35:51and I'm about to press the button for my floor, which is the second,

0:35:51 > 0:35:54when I suddenly see the time is 7.28,

0:35:54 > 0:35:59and I said, "Terry, it's 7.28, you're on the air in two minutes."

0:35:59 > 0:36:02And he said, "Yes, I'm early this morning."

0:36:02 > 0:36:05So I said, "Well, let me press six and we'll get you to your show..."

0:36:05 > 0:36:07So, anyway, go up to his show, out he goes,

0:36:07 > 0:36:09goes round the corner with his briefcase.

0:36:09 > 0:36:13I go down to the second, put on the radio, a jingle goes,

0:36:13 > 0:36:18Terry Wogan's jingle, and there comes this very familiar voice.

0:36:18 > 0:36:20'You know, the heavy traffic,

0:36:20 > 0:36:23'brought on by the hold-ups and the Underground and the rest of it,

0:36:23 > 0:36:27'and people cycling and running, not without its benefits, Deadly.'

0:36:27 > 0:36:31- 'What was that?'- 'Oh. When I came in here about, oh, three minutes ago,

0:36:31 > 0:36:35'I got to share a lift with Jeremy Vine,

0:36:35 > 0:36:38'who'd run all the way from Hammersmith.

0:36:38 > 0:36:42- 'And you could tell.' - 'He's very early, isn't he?'

0:36:42 > 0:36:43# 88 to 91 FM... #

0:36:43 > 0:36:46And I thought, "That's the genius of the guy, isn't it?"

0:36:46 > 0:36:49Because he hadn't even had a thought

0:36:49 > 0:36:51about his opening link for his programme

0:36:51 > 0:36:54until he saw me in the lift 90 seconds before.

0:36:54 > 0:36:57The thing is that he had a very well-stocked brain, didn't he?

0:36:57 > 0:37:00- He was well educated. - Yeah.- He was well read.

0:37:00 > 0:37:02- Yes.- And he would often sort of throw out the odd quote

0:37:02 > 0:37:05from something or other and it would stop you in your tracks.

0:37:05 > 0:37:07You'd think, "Blimey, how do you know that?"

0:37:07 > 0:37:09- Yeah.- "Why have you remembered that?"- Yeah.

0:37:09 > 0:37:11So, you know, we're not talking some complete numpty here.

0:37:11 > 0:37:16# How can I think I'm standing strong... #

0:37:16 > 0:37:20But while Terry's easy conversation and quick wit

0:37:20 > 0:37:23may have been his trademarks, he also had a deep love of music.

0:37:23 > 0:37:27The thing with Sir Terry's shows was that he really created...

0:37:27 > 0:37:30As a personality, as a voice on the radio,

0:37:30 > 0:37:35he never seemed to try and push too hard to reach the listener.

0:37:35 > 0:37:39He always seemed to be very relaxed.

0:37:39 > 0:37:45# This is the closest thing to crazy I have ever been... #

0:37:45 > 0:37:50And so I think that atmosphere was really unique and very special,

0:37:50 > 0:37:54and so he needed certain types of music to be able to...

0:37:54 > 0:37:58make that atmosphere, you know, carry on throughout the whole show.

0:37:58 > 0:38:00Obviously, to me, it meant a great deal,

0:38:00 > 0:38:05because he was the first person to start playing my music.

0:38:05 > 0:38:09# And now I know... #

0:38:09 > 0:38:12Not only did Terry champion new artists such as Katie Melua,

0:38:12 > 0:38:14the enormous respect he commanded

0:38:14 > 0:38:17meant that he had the power to influence record sales.

0:38:18 > 0:38:22He certainly could make an artist, and he did with several of them.

0:38:22 > 0:38:24Katie Melua, Eva Cassidy,

0:38:24 > 0:38:27Beth Nielsen Chapman, people like that.

0:38:27 > 0:38:34He loved hearing a soulful female voice singing a good, strong ballad.

0:38:34 > 0:38:40# ..You. #

0:38:43 > 0:38:48But it wasn't only on radio that Terry's musical judgment was in evidence.

0:38:48 > 0:38:52For 31 years, he presented the Eurovision Song Contest.

0:38:52 > 0:38:54I can't believe the excitement in here.

0:38:54 > 0:38:57You'd think there was something entertaining going to happen.

0:38:57 > 0:39:01If ever there was a show made for Terry, this was it.

0:39:01 > 0:39:06Oh, look, it's the ghost of Christmas yet to come.

0:39:06 > 0:39:08Who knows what hellish future lies ahead?

0:39:09 > 0:39:12Well, actually, I do, cos I've seen the rehearsals.

0:39:12 > 0:39:14With Eurovision, you know,

0:39:14 > 0:39:17Terry Wogan took something that wasn't a job

0:39:17 > 0:39:18and made it a thing.

0:39:18 > 0:39:22You know, because I think people forget how many people

0:39:22 > 0:39:25have commentated on Eurovision over the years.

0:39:25 > 0:39:26Loads of people have!

0:39:26 > 0:39:31This girl will need the neck muscles of Arnold Schwarzenegger

0:39:31 > 0:39:33to keep this necklace up.

0:39:33 > 0:39:35I don't know why her head is not down around her knees.

0:39:39 > 0:39:42SHE SINGS IN ROMANIAN

0:39:42 > 0:39:46And he made it his own to such an extent that I've done...

0:39:46 > 0:39:52I think this will be my ninth year, and I still have Terry in my head.

0:39:52 > 0:39:54Alex is striking, I'm afraid,

0:39:54 > 0:39:57another death blow to barbers everywhere.

0:39:58 > 0:40:00HE SINGS IN HIS OWN LANGUAGE

0:40:00 > 0:40:06He would see very quickly the quirky and the mad and the utterly insane

0:40:06 > 0:40:07and the inexplicable.

0:40:07 > 0:40:09SHE SINGS

0:40:09 > 0:40:11I want you to keep an eye out

0:40:11 > 0:40:14for a man playing a bunch of grapes in this.

0:40:14 > 0:40:18Not a thing you'd see anywhere else but the Eurovision Song Contest.

0:40:20 > 0:40:25I think Terry had an extraordinary ability

0:40:25 > 0:40:30to communicate very nuanced things with his voice.

0:40:31 > 0:40:35He had one of those voices, you could hear a raised eyebrow in it.

0:40:35 > 0:40:39Keep an eye out for Archimandrite, high priest of the bongo.

0:40:40 > 0:40:42There's the fellow.

0:40:43 > 0:40:46It was the original Gogglebox. I mean, he was just sitting there,

0:40:46 > 0:40:50going, "What the...? Where the...? Who the...? How the...? Why the...?"

0:40:50 > 0:40:51And you're thinking, "Yes!"

0:40:51 > 0:40:55That voice is our voice on the couch.

0:40:55 > 0:40:57Watch out for the lead singer.

0:40:57 > 0:40:59You'll be able to tell what he had for breakfast.

0:41:01 > 0:41:04# Come on, come on, come on... #

0:41:04 > 0:41:07The word that describes Terry best, I think, is irreverent.

0:41:07 > 0:41:09He was irreverent to the BBC.

0:41:09 > 0:41:12He was certainly irreverent to poor old Eurovision,

0:41:12 > 0:41:15but, actually, in a way, his irreverence saved it.

0:41:15 > 0:41:16His irreverence is the reason

0:41:16 > 0:41:19it's still on the air in the UK and still loved today.

0:41:21 > 0:41:24Terry may have revelled in the ridiculousness of Eurovision,

0:41:24 > 0:41:26but he also enjoyed a few highlights,

0:41:26 > 0:41:31such as when the UK won in 1981 and again in 1997.

0:41:31 > 0:41:33Well, we all know who's won.

0:41:33 > 0:41:35They've been leading from the beginning.

0:41:35 > 0:41:39First time since 1981, since Bucks Fizz did it here in Dublin.

0:41:39 > 0:41:43Leading to his only stint in front of the cameras as host.

0:41:43 > 0:41:45Hold it down to a dull roar.

0:41:47 > 0:41:49The rest of Europe thinks the British are reserved.

0:41:49 > 0:41:51CHEERING

0:41:51 > 0:41:54Bonsoir, mesdames et messieurs...

0:41:54 > 0:41:57In 2008, as he turned 70,

0:41:57 > 0:41:59Terry made the decision to stand down

0:41:59 > 0:42:01from the Eurovision Song Contest.

0:42:03 > 0:42:05I think it's tremendously disappointing

0:42:05 > 0:42:07from the point of view of the United Kingdom.

0:42:07 > 0:42:11We've come joint last, along with three other countries.

0:42:11 > 0:42:14You have to say that this is no longer a music contest.

0:42:14 > 0:42:18I think he was disappointed. He just didn't care for the way

0:42:18 > 0:42:24it had moved and there was such obvious blatant bias in the voting.

0:42:24 > 0:42:27I think he felt, "This is not the same as it was."

0:42:27 > 0:42:30And when the fun goes out of something for Terry, it's gone,

0:42:30 > 0:42:33so he left at the right time.

0:42:33 > 0:42:39Good evening, and welcome to the Eurovision Song Contest 2009,

0:42:39 > 0:42:41coming to you live from Moscow.

0:42:43 > 0:42:45I'm Graham Norton.

0:42:46 > 0:42:47I miss Terry, too.

0:42:47 > 0:42:49I'm sorry. He's not here.

0:42:49 > 0:42:54I think about a week before I was heading off to do it in Moscow,

0:42:54 > 0:42:58my phone rang, and it was Terry, and, you know, that's...

0:42:58 > 0:43:01I genuinely thought that was lovely.

0:43:01 > 0:43:04He bothered to call me to wish me well,

0:43:04 > 0:43:06and to say that he'd be watching.

0:43:06 > 0:43:10And the only advice he gave me was not to have a drink before Song 9.

0:43:12 > 0:43:17Then, in 2009, after nearly 30 years behind the breakfast show mic,

0:43:17 > 0:43:21came the announcement that would break the hearts of millions.

0:43:22 > 0:43:25This is it, then. This is the day I've been dreading.

0:43:25 > 0:43:29The inevitable morning when you and I come to the parting of the ways.

0:43:29 > 0:43:32I'm not going to pretend that this is not a sad day.

0:43:32 > 0:43:34You can probably hear it in my voice.

0:43:34 > 0:43:37I'm going to miss the laughter and the fun of our mornings together.

0:43:37 > 0:43:39Have a happy Christmas.

0:43:39 > 0:43:43Thank you. Thank you for being my friend.

0:43:44 > 0:43:46When you listen back to his farewell,

0:43:46 > 0:43:52I think all those years of closeness to the listeners and to his team

0:43:52 > 0:43:55came out when he said goodbye, because you could sense it.

0:43:55 > 0:43:56Is it over, really?

0:43:56 > 0:44:00He left at the top of his game.

0:44:00 > 0:44:04He was the foundations of Radio 2. He was absolutely part of

0:44:04 > 0:44:08the fabric of the place, and that resonates through now, as well.

0:44:08 > 0:44:10Well, Radio 2's Terry's home, you know.

0:44:10 > 0:44:14I mean, Radio 2 is where he was for over, you know...

0:44:14 > 0:44:15close to four decades,

0:44:15 > 0:44:19and so it's his ship, we just get to sail it.

0:44:21 > 0:44:24Terry's popularity, though, showed no sign of diminishing.

0:44:24 > 0:44:28Sir Terence Wogan, for services to broadcasting.

0:44:28 > 0:44:33In 2005, he'd be knighted by one of his most famous fans.

0:44:35 > 0:44:38In the years that followed, more awards flowed in.

0:44:38 > 0:44:42After 50 years as the country's greatest and favourite broadcaster,

0:44:42 > 0:44:43it gives me enormous pleasure...

0:44:43 > 0:44:46It is also... Genuinely, it's a terrific honour for me

0:44:46 > 0:44:48to be asked to give to Sir Terry

0:44:48 > 0:44:51this special lifetime achievement award for radio broadcasting

0:44:51 > 0:44:53to Sir Terry Wogan.

0:44:56 > 0:45:00All broadcasters that like television, that watch television,

0:45:00 > 0:45:04that have grown up being passionate about television and radio,

0:45:04 > 0:45:08you can't help but look to him as the daddy.

0:45:08 > 0:45:09Please.

0:45:09 > 0:45:11Well, ladies and gentlemen...

0:45:14 > 0:45:15..it's been a journey.

0:45:17 > 0:45:21This only sustains my long-felt theory

0:45:21 > 0:45:28that, in our business, if you can stay upright and reasonably sober...

0:45:29 > 0:45:31..they'll give you something in the end.

0:45:33 > 0:45:38With more time on his hands, Terry threw himself into a variety of work.

0:45:38 > 0:45:41A new weekend radio programme,

0:45:41 > 0:45:45documentaries, and appearances on panel shows,

0:45:45 > 0:45:48all confirming his role as a true broadcasting great.

0:45:48 > 0:45:53Hello. Hello, and welcome to what they call a show.

0:45:53 > 0:45:55Now, I think you all know why I'm here.

0:45:55 > 0:45:57I mean, I could have been on Strictly Come Dancing,

0:45:57 > 0:46:00I could have been on I'm A Celebrity... Get Me Out Of Here,

0:46:00 > 0:46:02but I wanted to put myself through

0:46:02 > 0:46:05the most degenerating and debasing show of them all.

0:46:05 > 0:46:08He understood that you had to keep up with the times,

0:46:08 > 0:46:12and he was genuinely interested in what was going on culturally.

0:46:12 > 0:46:14He was courageous and he kept trying new things,

0:46:14 > 0:46:16and he was just up for a laugh.

0:46:16 > 0:46:17Thank you.

0:46:17 > 0:46:20I've done quite a few panel shows, with all different sorts of hosts,

0:46:20 > 0:46:24and normally, if they have a bit of a go at you, you want to fight back.

0:46:24 > 0:46:27- But when Terry says anything, I just sit here thinking, "You're right, I am- BLEEP!"

0:46:29 > 0:46:32The strongest thing was just the affection people felt for him.

0:46:32 > 0:46:35He was one of those figures. There's a handful of people,

0:46:35 > 0:46:37and when we have them on Would I Lie To You,

0:46:37 > 0:46:42you can tell the audience just have great affection for them.

0:46:42 > 0:46:44On David Mitchell's team tonight,

0:46:44 > 0:46:47a man who has broadcasting in his blood,

0:46:47 > 0:46:50along with Sanatogen, cod liver oil and Viagra.

0:46:50 > 0:46:52It's Sir Terry Wogan!

0:46:52 > 0:46:57When we had him on, I know there was a sense, amongst the three of us,

0:46:57 > 0:46:59of, "Terry Wogan's on the show, fantastic!"

0:46:59 > 0:47:02You know, and you kind of just want to sit back

0:47:02 > 0:47:03and just watch him do his thing.

0:47:03 > 0:47:07Which is a danger, when you have someone who's as beloved as he was,

0:47:07 > 0:47:11that you sort of don't get in the game, you know, you just want to go, "Wow, look who it is!"

0:47:11 > 0:47:15Every year, I signal the start of Christmas dinner

0:47:15 > 0:47:18by taking my seat opposite Mrs Wogan

0:47:18 > 0:47:24and firing a pistol loaded with a blank or blanks.

0:47:25 > 0:47:27Have you ever set fire to her?

0:47:30 > 0:47:33- In ways that I will not divulge... - LAUGHTER

0:47:36 > 0:47:39Live from the BBC Television Centre in London,

0:47:39 > 0:47:44and across the United Kingdom, it's BBC Children in Need!

0:47:44 > 0:47:47But while Sir Terry Wogan's influence on broadcasting is undeniable,

0:47:47 > 0:47:49there was never any doubt in his mind

0:47:49 > 0:47:52about what he saw was his most important role.

0:47:52 > 0:47:56It's the guvnor. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Terry Wogan!

0:47:57 > 0:48:02Terry first became involved in Children in Need in 1978,

0:48:02 > 0:48:05when it was just a five-minute television appeal.

0:48:05 > 0:48:08It doesn't take much to make a child happy,

0:48:08 > 0:48:12so help us help these children in need.

0:48:12 > 0:48:16# You're not alone Together we stand... #

0:48:16 > 0:48:19With Terry at the helm for 44 years,

0:48:19 > 0:48:23Children in Need turned into a fundraising phenomenon,

0:48:23 > 0:48:26with almost £800 million raised to date.

0:48:26 > 0:48:29Children in Need just wouldn't be the same

0:48:29 > 0:48:31without one of its main presenters, Terry Wogan.

0:48:33 > 0:48:36We're going to see some more golden moments, aren't we, everybody?

0:48:36 > 0:48:39264,398...

0:48:39 > 0:48:44£17,213,664...

0:48:44 > 0:48:48£20,991,216...

0:48:48 > 0:48:51£26,757,446...

0:48:51 > 0:48:55£32,620,469...

0:48:55 > 0:48:57CHEERING

0:48:57 > 0:48:59- ALL:- Terry! Terry! Terry!

0:48:59 > 0:49:02I think the reason Terry was so successful with Children in Need

0:49:02 > 0:49:03is cos he meant it.

0:49:03 > 0:49:05He was different on Children in Need.

0:49:05 > 0:49:08You know, his persona was completely different.

0:49:08 > 0:49:12That was the closest Terry to the real Terry you ever saw.

0:49:12 > 0:49:15They need your help, if you've read the papers,

0:49:15 > 0:49:19more than ever, so please, please, dig deep, dig deep.

0:49:19 > 0:49:21I'll be coming round with buckets for all of you.

0:49:21 > 0:49:24He has always said he didn't like rehearsals,

0:49:24 > 0:49:26he's always said he likes flying by the seat of his pants.

0:49:26 > 0:49:29This was seven hours of flying by the seat of his pants.

0:49:29 > 0:49:32I thought we might have a member of the audience come down and pick

0:49:32 > 0:49:34a golden moment for us. What do you think of that?

0:49:34 > 0:49:35Belting idea.

0:49:35 > 0:49:37Whoa!

0:49:38 > 0:49:43And he also felt that relating to people is the most important thing of his job, absolutely.

0:49:43 > 0:49:47Nothing to do with directors, pleasing programme controllers,

0:49:47 > 0:49:48nothing to do with that.

0:49:48 > 0:49:51Myself and the aforementioned Joanna Lumley,

0:49:51 > 0:49:54she who looks like a wasp with the measles,

0:49:54 > 0:49:56she in her bondage boots,

0:49:56 > 0:49:58and me in the shoes with the hole in the sole,

0:49:58 > 0:50:01are going to go up and prise money from our studio audience,

0:50:01 > 0:50:04who've only just come in, this is a nasty shock for them, I can tell you.

0:50:04 > 0:50:06Terry was shameless.

0:50:06 > 0:50:10He would do absolutely anything for the charity.

0:50:10 > 0:50:12- ALL:- Eight!

0:50:12 > 0:50:15He would make a complete pillock of himself.

0:50:15 > 0:50:18# And there was the band with the curious tone

0:50:18 > 0:50:20# Of the cornet, clarinet and big trombone... #

0:50:20 > 0:50:22He was always talking about

0:50:22 > 0:50:25the generosity of the great British public,

0:50:25 > 0:50:30over and over again, he was very vocal in his gratitude for that,

0:50:30 > 0:50:32but he never talked about his own generosity.

0:50:32 > 0:50:35The target this year is £1.5 million,

0:50:35 > 0:50:37and helping out Joanna Lumley and Sue Cook

0:50:37 > 0:50:40will be the man of a thousand jobs, our own Terry Wogan.

0:50:40 > 0:50:43At the moment, he's hard at work, I'm told, in Broadcasting House.

0:50:43 > 0:50:46He put his heart and soul into it.

0:50:46 > 0:50:50His radio programmes leading up to Children in Need,

0:50:50 > 0:50:52there'd be so much going on.

0:50:52 > 0:50:54We're doing very well.

0:50:54 > 0:50:57Even as we speak, they've dedicated nearly £8,000,

0:50:57 > 0:51:00or pledged nearly £8,000 between those early hours of the mornings.

0:51:00 > 0:51:02Terry was Children in Need.

0:51:02 > 0:51:05He was. The fact that he was there from the beginning,

0:51:05 > 0:51:10the fact that we associate Children in Need with him.

0:51:11 > 0:51:15I just remember being made to feel so welcome,

0:51:15 > 0:51:20and that I was being schooled by a legend and a real pro.

0:51:20 > 0:51:24And just watching him with his easy nature was a real lesson.

0:51:24 > 0:51:26Shall we get the show on the road?

0:51:26 > 0:51:28- Yes!- OK!

0:51:28 > 0:51:31A lot of the time, I would have to sort of gently elbow him

0:51:31 > 0:51:33to sort of, "Wind it up now, Terry," but he didn't care,

0:51:33 > 0:51:35he knew that was going on, he was the most professional,

0:51:35 > 0:51:38hard-working, skilled presenter I've ever worked with.

0:51:38 > 0:51:43Easy, girl. Don't tell anyone, but I'm making it up as I go along.

0:51:43 > 0:51:45I'd guessed that, yep.

0:51:45 > 0:51:50The amount of man hours he put in to that charity,

0:51:50 > 0:51:53and also the extraordinary amount of money that he personally

0:51:53 > 0:51:56was responsible for raising is phenomenal.

0:51:56 > 0:51:58CHEERING

0:51:58 > 0:52:03Over the years, that's what the British public came to understand,

0:52:03 > 0:52:05that this wasn't just a man in a suit saying,

0:52:05 > 0:52:07"Please give generously."

0:52:07 > 0:52:09It was a man in a suit

0:52:09 > 0:52:14who absolutely believed in what he was doing,

0:52:14 > 0:52:18and what he was saying, and the good that could come from the show.

0:52:18 > 0:52:20Now, as you can see,

0:52:20 > 0:52:24there is a certain someone missing who is usually by my side,

0:52:24 > 0:52:27but due to ill-health, for the first time in 35 years,

0:52:27 > 0:52:30we are without our Knight of the Realm,

0:52:30 > 0:52:32our very own Sir Terry Wogan.

0:52:34 > 0:52:38It was really, really weird not doing the show with Terry,

0:52:38 > 0:52:43because he is Children in Need... well, he was Children in Need,

0:52:43 > 0:52:44so it was really strange.

0:52:44 > 0:52:47It was a sad, sad evening.

0:52:47 > 0:52:49Stepping in at the last minute, ladies and gentlemen,

0:52:49 > 0:52:53please give a very warm welcome to Dermot O'Leary.

0:52:53 > 0:52:55It was a very emotional night for me, cos that,

0:52:55 > 0:52:57coupled with the fact that I'm, you know,

0:52:57 > 0:52:59walking in my hero's footsteps, really.

0:52:59 > 0:53:03Much like Radio 2, his...

0:53:03 > 0:53:05DNA is all over that show,

0:53:05 > 0:53:10and the feel and the shape and the beat of the show are very Terry.

0:53:10 > 0:53:13Sir Terry, please get well soon, you know you're my hero,

0:53:13 > 0:53:17your shoes are big shoes to fill, big size 11 Irish brogues,

0:53:17 > 0:53:19but I will do my very, very best.

0:53:19 > 0:53:21In a lovely way, they went, "Do you want to rehearse?"

0:53:21 > 0:53:24I said, "Yeah," and they said, "Oh, thank God for that."

0:53:24 > 0:53:26I said, "What do you mean?" They said, "He never rehearses."

0:53:26 > 0:53:28I said, "What do you...? It's a two-and-a-half hour..."

0:53:28 > 0:53:31It was a three-hour live stint, something like that.

0:53:31 > 0:53:33I said, "What do you mean, never rehearses?"

0:53:33 > 0:53:34They said, "No, he never rehearses.

0:53:34 > 0:53:37"He just comes on and just does his thing."

0:53:37 > 0:53:40Bless you for the warmth of your enthusiasm.

0:53:41 > 0:53:43Spend as if your pocket thinks your hand's gone mad tonight.

0:53:43 > 0:53:46Tonight's a very important night for the nation's children.

0:53:46 > 0:53:49It's a chance for us all to do something life-changing

0:53:49 > 0:53:51for the people who need it most.

0:53:51 > 0:53:55For me, the greatest attribute...

0:53:55 > 0:53:58and the most important thing you can bring to a marriage,

0:53:58 > 0:54:01the most important thing you can bring to a family,

0:54:01 > 0:54:04the most important thing you can bring to anybody, is kindness.

0:54:04 > 0:54:07In the old church word - charity.

0:54:08 > 0:54:10So it's a combination of love and charity.

0:54:10 > 0:54:13Kindness. That's the word.

0:54:16 > 0:54:20He had one of the most recognisable faces and voices in the land,

0:54:20 > 0:54:23inspiring affection as well as admiration

0:54:23 > 0:54:25over the course of a 50-year career.

0:54:25 > 0:54:29Sir Terry Wogan has been called a broadcasting legend today,

0:54:29 > 0:54:31after his death at the age of 77.

0:54:34 > 0:54:38I think the whole place, the whole BBC, was rocked on the day,

0:54:38 > 0:54:42because we didn't see it coming, and, you know...

0:54:42 > 0:54:47to think that somebody who was so much part of everybody's life

0:54:47 > 0:54:49wasn't going to be there any more,

0:54:49 > 0:54:51it left everyone feeling a bit bereft.

0:54:54 > 0:54:59He meant so much to me, because he taught me so much,

0:54:59 > 0:55:04and that is very rare that you can, you know, just learn from someone

0:55:04 > 0:55:07from watching how brilliant they are at what they do.

0:55:07 > 0:55:10I'll remember him as being generous,

0:55:10 > 0:55:11I'll remember him as being...

0:55:13 > 0:55:16..kind, thoughtful, on a personal basis.

0:55:16 > 0:55:17On a professional basis,

0:55:17 > 0:55:21I'll remember him as being funny, laconic, smart,

0:55:21 > 0:55:27bold, naughty, and intelligently offbeat...

0:55:28 > 0:55:30..because he was one of the good guys.

0:55:30 > 0:55:33I learned so much from Terry as a broadcaster,

0:55:33 > 0:55:37both by listening to him, and by being with him.

0:55:37 > 0:55:39The most important thing that I ever learned from him

0:55:39 > 0:55:43is that they either like you or they don't, that was his phrase,

0:55:43 > 0:55:44they either like you or they don't.

0:55:44 > 0:55:50I think Sir Terry will be remembered as a dear friend to everyone.

0:55:53 > 0:55:54That's how I'll remember him.

0:55:56 > 0:56:01I mean, he was just a nice fella, a real good laugh,

0:56:01 > 0:56:02and...

0:56:05 > 0:56:07..I'm really pleased to have known him,

0:56:07 > 0:56:09and known him as a pal.

0:56:11 > 0:56:13My abiding memory of Wogan will be

0:56:13 > 0:56:16to see him standing at the front door of his house

0:56:16 > 0:56:20as we pulled up, usually looking very casual

0:56:20 > 0:56:25in a cashmere sweater that had seen better days,

0:56:25 > 0:56:27with a beaming smile on his face,

0:56:27 > 0:56:30and a Waterford Crystal glass in his hand.

0:56:30 > 0:56:34"Oh, by God, you're just in time, just in time for a drop."

0:56:34 > 0:56:35And then...

0:56:37 > 0:56:38I see him every day.

0:56:40 > 0:56:43For Terry to be that relaxed and that sanguine

0:56:43 > 0:56:46showed the class of the man.

0:56:47 > 0:56:49And that's what I'll always remember with Terry, the word...

0:56:49 > 0:56:51He's just class.

0:56:53 > 0:56:55My life, if you're asking me about my life

0:56:55 > 0:56:57and the meaning of my life...

0:56:58 > 0:57:01..it's been absolutely wonderful.

0:57:02 > 0:57:05I've had a lovely family, I've had a loving wife.

0:57:06 > 0:57:09I've had...success in the material world.

0:57:10 > 0:57:12I've done something I wanted to do.

0:57:12 > 0:57:15I've had an ideal life.

0:57:15 > 0:57:19So I can only tell you what it means to me,

0:57:19 > 0:57:21which is happiness.