0:00:04 > 0:00:08This is hymn that I heard sung a number of years ago.
0:00:08 > 0:00:11And it's about this city of Armagh.
0:00:14 > 0:00:18"City famed for saints and scholars.
0:00:18 > 0:00:22"Turn again and seek the Lord.
0:00:25 > 0:00:29"Through these ancient streets of Armagh,
0:00:29 > 0:00:32"let the shout of triumph reign.
0:00:33 > 0:00:37"God alone is our salvation,
0:00:37 > 0:00:40"Jesus is our coming King."
0:01:20 > 0:01:25For those folk who may not have read the Bible...
0:01:27 > 0:01:31..God created the heaven and the Earth...
0:01:32 > 0:01:36..and every living thing and all that's in it.
0:01:41 > 0:01:45'And he made it six days and every day when he had finished,
0:01:45 > 0:01:47'he said it was good.'
0:01:51 > 0:01:57'And then he made man out of the dust of the ground.'
0:02:01 > 0:02:05'When you're working here, sometimes you're on your own...
0:02:06 > 0:02:09'..and you have a lot of time to think.'
0:02:10 > 0:02:11You look around you.
0:02:13 > 0:02:18You see the frost and the snow in the winter time,
0:02:18 > 0:02:20and sometimes it starts freezing
0:02:20 > 0:02:22and it drops down, down, down,
0:02:22 > 0:02:25and it has to be somebody in control
0:02:25 > 0:02:28that it doesn't drop on down
0:02:28 > 0:02:30and freeze us all to death.
0:02:30 > 0:02:34But when you see that and you know that God's in control,
0:02:34 > 0:02:37you know that you're not going to be froze to death.
0:02:37 > 0:02:43And you know there is a God in heaven,
0:02:43 > 0:02:45and you know that all will be well.
0:02:46 > 0:02:48You're happy to work,
0:02:48 > 0:02:53and you're glad to see Sunday coming to get a rest
0:02:53 > 0:02:57and also to go to worship Him.
0:03:21 > 0:03:24Open our eyes, Lord, who want to see Jesus,
0:03:24 > 0:03:27to reach out and touch him and say that we love him.
0:03:29 > 0:03:32Open our ears and help us to hear.
0:03:32 > 0:03:35Open our hearts and help us to respond.
0:03:35 > 0:03:38In Jesus' name we pray,
0:03:39 > 0:03:40Amen.
0:03:44 > 0:03:47'It's an awesome sense of God's presence
0:03:47 > 0:03:51'when you step into the pulpit on a Sunday morning
0:03:51 > 0:03:53'to preach God's word.'
0:03:57 > 0:04:03'I know what it feels like to be in amongst worshippers
0:04:03 > 0:04:07'and get the sense of joy that you feel
0:04:07 > 0:04:10'when you're truly worshipping together
0:04:10 > 0:04:14'as a community of God's people.'
0:04:14 > 0:04:17In a sense, that's a picture of what heaven will be like
0:04:17 > 0:04:22as we joyfully worship God in his presence.
0:04:26 > 0:04:30I thank God every day that I was sent to Armagh.
0:04:30 > 0:04:34It's been a good place to start off in ministry.
0:04:34 > 0:04:38The Methodist Church here is relatively small
0:04:38 > 0:04:40compared to other places
0:04:40 > 0:04:45but they have been helping me enormously
0:04:45 > 0:04:48as I've grown in ministry.
0:04:50 > 0:04:54And part of our job is to try and discern what is his path
0:04:54 > 0:05:00for this church here in the city of Armagh?
0:05:00 > 0:05:04How can we seek to grow as part of God's kingdom here?
0:05:12 > 0:05:15I think sometimes in established religion you feel,
0:05:15 > 0:05:17"I have to do this and I must do that."
0:05:17 > 0:05:20And initially maybe you do think it's a bit of a rule book.
0:05:23 > 0:05:27But that love that you have that God gives you
0:05:27 > 0:05:29is something that you do for him
0:05:29 > 0:05:31because you love him
0:05:31 > 0:05:35and because you feel this is the purpose for your life.
0:05:43 > 0:05:46I couldn't live without my faith.
0:05:46 > 0:05:50Faith gives me meaning, it gives me purpose.
0:05:50 > 0:05:52It is everything that I am.
0:05:55 > 0:06:01And I couldn't even begin to imagine life without that purpose,
0:06:01 > 0:06:05life without that hope, life without that living hope.
0:06:13 > 0:06:16We thank you, heavenly Father, that you love this world
0:06:16 > 0:06:18so much that, even though you'd created it
0:06:18 > 0:06:21and we had gone our own way and we had turned our backs on you,
0:06:21 > 0:06:24yet still you found a way to send your only son, the Lord Jesus,
0:06:24 > 0:06:28into this world to live a perfect life
0:06:28 > 0:06:31and to die our death on that cross in our place.
0:06:33 > 0:06:36And thank you, Lord, for the many gathered in this building tonight
0:06:36 > 0:06:39who've come to the point in their experience
0:06:39 > 0:06:42where they realise they're a sinner and thank that you've given them
0:06:42 > 0:06:46that free gift into their hands just for the asking.
0:06:59 > 0:07:03'The Bible tells us that we should congregate together.
0:07:03 > 0:07:07'It says not to neglect the fellowship with each other.
0:07:07 > 0:07:10'And you've that sense of belonging and you feel the weight
0:07:10 > 0:07:14'of your brothers and sisters in Christ
0:07:14 > 0:07:17'praying with you and for you
0:07:17 > 0:07:19'and you feel a part of that church community.'
0:07:22 > 0:07:26'The Bible is a living word and I think it still speaks to us'
0:07:26 > 0:07:28and it spoke to me.
0:07:28 > 0:07:31It convicted me, if you like, of my sin.
0:07:32 > 0:07:35'And sometimes you have to go through stuff
0:07:35 > 0:07:37'that proves that God is real,
0:07:37 > 0:07:41'that God can be there in the hard times as well as the easy times.
0:07:41 > 0:07:44'It's not all mountaintop experience, I can assure you.
0:07:44 > 0:07:47'I have been through lots of valleys.'
0:07:57 > 0:08:01We're now going to Blackwatertown,
0:08:01 > 0:08:05and that's where I went to school.
0:08:06 > 0:08:09And when I was going to school,
0:08:09 > 0:08:13I had to walk two-and-a-half miles.
0:08:14 > 0:08:19And it was a long walk, especially in the wintertime.
0:08:21 > 0:08:24And then, in the summertime, in the hot weather,
0:08:24 > 0:08:28a lot of the children walked to school and home again
0:08:28 > 0:08:31and had no shoes - they went in their bare feet.
0:08:36 > 0:08:38Used to know every house down this road.
0:08:52 > 0:08:55It was only a small school,
0:08:55 > 0:08:57and there was only one teacher.
0:08:58 > 0:09:00She was called Miss Bowles.
0:09:02 > 0:09:05She was a goodChristian woman,
0:09:05 > 0:09:08and she told me the way of salvation.
0:09:14 > 0:09:16Sweetest name I know
0:09:18 > 0:09:20Fills my every longing,
0:09:20 > 0:09:22Keeps me singing as I go.
0:09:24 > 0:09:28Father God, I pray that you'll save this village of Blackwatertown.
0:09:28 > 0:09:33I pray you, God, that you'll even stand a mighty Holy Ghost revival...
0:09:33 > 0:09:38'The teacher told us that we must be born again.
0:09:42 > 0:09:45'The teacher told us to give our lives to Christ.'
0:09:47 > 0:09:50'And I was walking up the road home.
0:09:50 > 0:09:54'I must have been on my own.
0:09:54 > 0:09:57'I knelt down on the road
0:09:57 > 0:10:02'and I asked Jesus to forgive my sin
0:10:02 > 0:10:03'and come into my life.'
0:10:08 > 0:10:10Now, I rose up.
0:10:10 > 0:10:13I didn't feel any different.
0:10:13 > 0:10:16Some people, when they give their lives to Christ,
0:10:16 > 0:10:18oh, they can feel a mighty change.
0:10:19 > 0:10:23But I knew the great transaction was done.
0:10:27 > 0:10:30'And there's a hymn and it goes like this -
0:10:31 > 0:10:34'Since I started for the kingdom
0:10:36 > 0:10:38'Since my life he controls'
0:10:40 > 0:10:43Since I gave my life to Jesus
0:10:44 > 0:10:48The longer I serve him, the sweeter he grows.
0:10:59 > 0:11:02John Wesley is the founder of Methodism.
0:11:02 > 0:11:07'John Wesley travelled throughout England and Ireland,
0:11:07 > 0:11:09'preaching the message of the gospel.
0:11:09 > 0:11:12'He would gather the people who made a commitment to Christ'
0:11:12 > 0:11:14'into little groups called Societies,
0:11:14 > 0:11:16'that the people would be encouraged'
0:11:16 > 0:11:20to meet regularly to pray together and to encourage each other
0:11:20 > 0:11:23in their faith and to be accountable to each other in their faith.
0:11:25 > 0:11:28'He came to Armagh on many occasions,
0:11:28 > 0:11:31'and he had a powerful influence on people,
0:11:31 > 0:11:33'especially in the country areas.'
0:11:34 > 0:11:39'One particular theologian described it as the "four alls" of Methodism.
0:11:39 > 0:11:43'All people need to be saved, all people can be saved,
0:11:43 > 0:11:46'all people can know themselves saved
0:11:46 > 0:11:48'and all people can be saved to the utmost.
0:11:48 > 0:11:51'There's nobody that the Gospel cannot reach.
0:11:51 > 0:11:56'God wants all people to come to him to respond to Jesus.
0:11:56 > 0:11:59'He was teaching the Gospel, of course.
0:11:59 > 0:12:03'He was teaching salvation by grace through faith in Jesus Christ.'
0:12:05 > 0:12:07And to help them as their lives changed,
0:12:07 > 0:12:12just like my life was changed when I came to faith in Jesus.
0:12:24 > 0:12:28As a youngster we would have been sent to church
0:12:28 > 0:12:30and it was something of a routine.
0:12:30 > 0:12:35I knew the Gospel. I knew that Jesus died for me.
0:12:35 > 0:12:38There was a spirituality,
0:12:38 > 0:12:40but it hadn't been kindled.
0:12:40 > 0:12:42The spark hadn't lit.
0:12:45 > 0:12:49So it really wasn't until my brother-in-law, Harvey,
0:12:49 > 0:12:52my husband's brother, was killed
0:12:52 > 0:12:56that I really started to think about life.
0:13:01 > 0:13:03He was killed by the IRA.
0:13:04 > 0:13:07It was mistaken identity
0:13:07 > 0:13:11and his wife had brought down a number of items.
0:13:11 > 0:13:13She brought down a black bin bag
0:13:13 > 0:13:17and she left it sort of sitting in the house.
0:13:17 > 0:13:19I remember looking at this bin bag and saying,
0:13:19 > 0:13:24"This can't have been just all of Harvey's life."
0:13:24 > 0:13:27And that's when I started to really search and I started to think,
0:13:27 > 0:13:29"What is it about?
0:13:29 > 0:13:32"What is life about if this is the way it ends?"
0:13:36 > 0:13:40At that particular time I had a Christian milkman
0:13:40 > 0:13:43and he had said something to me,
0:13:43 > 0:13:45he'd admired a clock in the hall or something,
0:13:45 > 0:13:49and I said, "Well, the one thing that Harvey's death has taught me
0:13:49 > 0:13:51"is that you can't take it with you."
0:13:51 > 0:13:54So he challenged me then and said, "Are you a Christian?
0:13:54 > 0:13:56"Have you a personal relationship with God?"
0:14:00 > 0:14:02I struggled with that for a while.
0:14:02 > 0:14:05I started to read the Bible, really read the Bible.
0:14:05 > 0:14:08And God started to speak to me through the Bible.
0:14:08 > 0:14:13And that's when I really felt, "I really need purpose."
0:14:19 > 0:14:22I have a sister who was a Christian and I rang her up and I said,
0:14:22 > 0:14:26"Look, what is this Christianity about? I'm searching for something.
0:14:26 > 0:14:30"I don't know what it is. I really don't know what to do about it."
0:14:30 > 0:14:33They had a meeting on a Sunday night
0:14:33 > 0:14:35and I spoke to the preacher that night.
0:14:39 > 0:14:43To say that a man leads you to the Lord...
0:14:43 > 0:14:48He can lead you to the Lord but he can't make you right with God.
0:14:48 > 0:14:51There's a gulf fixed between me and God
0:14:51 > 0:14:53and the person who, if you like,
0:14:53 > 0:14:58bridges that gap is Jesus, because Jesus died for my sin.
0:15:14 > 0:15:18'It was 13th March in 1984.'
0:15:19 > 0:15:22And the Bible talks about being born again,
0:15:22 > 0:15:24so that was my second birth, if you like.
0:15:26 > 0:15:29That was the day whenever I knew
0:15:29 > 0:15:33that I had to give my life to the Lord.
0:15:33 > 0:15:36I knew then that my life would have purpose.
0:15:45 > 0:15:49Man meant it for evil, but God meant it for good.
0:15:49 > 0:15:53So, God made something really good come out of the evil
0:15:53 > 0:15:56that had happened that man had meant.
0:15:56 > 0:15:58But God turned it around for good in my life.
0:16:08 > 0:16:11I grew up in a part of Dublin called Raheny,
0:16:11 > 0:16:14where I spent about the first ten years of my life.
0:16:15 > 0:16:18We went to church every Sunday to Mass,
0:16:18 > 0:16:21from a committed Catholic background.
0:16:23 > 0:16:26I remember feeling very close to God as a child.
0:16:26 > 0:16:30Faith and church was an important part of my life then.
0:16:33 > 0:16:37Part of the journey was when I was 16 I met a young girl
0:16:37 > 0:16:41who was a Methodist and her dad was somebody who
0:16:41 > 0:16:44no matter who was in the house of an evening,
0:16:44 > 0:16:46would always bring out his Bible
0:16:46 > 0:16:49and go in to the backroom and do a little Bible devotion.
0:16:49 > 0:16:52That was something that, as a young man, I would have noticed.
0:16:57 > 0:16:59We got married when I was 24.
0:17:01 > 0:17:04We settled in Bray in County Wicklow,
0:17:04 > 0:17:07and Carol started to go to the Bray Methodist Church.
0:17:10 > 0:17:14We had two sons, and one day Carol said to me
0:17:14 > 0:17:16than my oldest son was enquiring as to why he had to go to church
0:17:16 > 0:17:19on a Sunday morning when his dad could stay in bed.
0:17:24 > 0:17:28I determined to try to live a better life
0:17:28 > 0:17:31and set a better example for my sons,
0:17:31 > 0:17:36so I started to go to church more regularly, to Bray Methodist.
0:17:36 > 0:17:38And at that time a new minister had come
0:17:38 > 0:17:41and he started a thing called the Alpha course.
0:17:43 > 0:17:46So, on one particular Tuesday you would have had the local priest
0:17:46 > 0:17:48who would have spoken about a subject
0:17:48 > 0:17:51and then the next week it would have been the Methodist
0:17:51 > 0:17:54and the next week maybe it was the Presbyterian minister in the town.
0:17:54 > 0:17:56It was a wonderful experience,
0:17:56 > 0:18:00especially when we got into the groups and chatted about our faith.
0:18:01 > 0:18:04It was like just a light came on.
0:18:04 > 0:18:07I suddenly got what the Gospel was about.
0:18:11 > 0:18:14But it wasn't just about living your life by rules and regulations
0:18:14 > 0:18:18but it was about a personal relationship with Jesus Christ
0:18:18 > 0:18:22and the Gospel had never really been explained to me like that before.
0:18:22 > 0:18:25I suddenly had a desire to know about Jesus, a desire to pray,
0:18:25 > 0:18:27to read the Bible.
0:18:32 > 0:18:35The journey from feeling that sense of calling to full-time ministry
0:18:35 > 0:18:39happened over a very short period of time, maybe a couple of years.
0:18:39 > 0:18:41Things people said to me,
0:18:41 > 0:18:45things I felt Lord said to me in my prayers and my Bible reading.
0:18:46 > 0:18:49There was a verse in Hebrews,
0:18:49 > 0:18:53"See to it that you do not refuse him who speaks."
0:18:53 > 0:18:56And it really just confirmed to me that God was calling me
0:18:56 > 0:19:00into this ministry and that I needed to respond.
0:19:03 > 0:19:07'I pursued that and was accepted for training
0:19:07 > 0:19:12'in Edgehill College in Belfast, where I did three years' study'
0:19:12 > 0:19:16and I was stationed, thankfully, to Armagh.
0:19:16 > 0:19:18And I've been here since 2009.
0:19:27 > 0:19:30God spoke from heaven and said, "Saul, Saul.
0:19:32 > 0:19:34"Why are you persecuting me?"
0:19:34 > 0:19:40And he went on to say, "It's hard for you
0:19:40 > 0:19:42"to kick against the pricks," -
0:19:42 > 0:19:44in other words, "to fight against me".
0:19:44 > 0:19:49And then Paul, he says, "Who art thou, Lord?"
0:19:50 > 0:19:53And the voice says, "I am Jesus,
0:19:53 > 0:19:55"whom you are persecuting."
0:19:59 > 0:20:01'I have been teaching Sunday school...
0:20:01 > 0:20:05'It could be 40 years, it could be more. I don't know.
0:20:05 > 0:20:07'All those years.
0:20:08 > 0:20:13'I do my best to explain the way of salvation...'
0:20:14 > 0:20:18'..and there's only one thing I'm sorry about,
0:20:18 > 0:20:22'that when I started to teach I didn't know as much as I know now.'
0:20:24 > 0:20:26'But I know'
0:20:26 > 0:20:30if you do your best, God does not expect any more.
0:20:37 > 0:20:41'I was born with asthma
0:20:41 > 0:20:47'and some nights I couldn't go to bed and lie down.
0:20:49 > 0:20:55'My father and mother had to sit up with me at the fire.'
0:20:56 > 0:21:02'And, as the years went on, I would get an asthma attack.
0:21:02 > 0:21:09'I couldn't have walked hardly 20 yards.'
0:21:09 > 0:21:17'But I had two good friends -
0:21:17 > 0:21:20'And they were terrific Christians.
0:21:20 > 0:21:22'They were praying for me'
0:21:22 > 0:21:27and Mrs Agnew interpreted a message.
0:21:30 > 0:21:35"I will allow you to be tempted for a season
0:21:35 > 0:21:40"but after that, I give you fresh air to breathe."
0:21:42 > 0:21:45And all I wanted to know was how long was the season?
0:21:50 > 0:21:55One night I went to bed as well as I am now.
0:21:57 > 0:21:59Awaking in the middle of the night
0:21:59 > 0:22:02and I never was as well caught with asthma in all my life, never.
0:22:03 > 0:22:06I tried to get down to the kitchen
0:22:06 > 0:22:08and I was getting worse every second.
0:22:13 > 0:22:15I sat down on the couch.
0:22:15 > 0:22:18I turned a chair around, I held on to the back of it,
0:22:18 > 0:22:23and the sweat fell off me onto the floor like rain.
0:22:23 > 0:22:27And I thought, "This is it. I'm finished."
0:22:30 > 0:22:33And I thought, if I had a pencil
0:22:33 > 0:22:36and a piece of paper I could write "asthma" on it
0:22:36 > 0:22:40and if I was dead in the morning, they knew what killed me.
0:22:44 > 0:22:49And the heat got up and I started to come out of this asthma attack.
0:22:52 > 0:22:54I never told my wife to this day.
0:22:54 > 0:22:57I don't go around telling people.
0:22:57 > 0:23:00But shortly afterwards, the season was up.
0:23:08 > 0:23:12I'm a better man now than I was 40 years ago.
0:23:13 > 0:23:17I give God the glory. God has wonderful ways of working.
0:23:17 > 0:23:20The Bible says his ways are past finding out
0:23:20 > 0:23:22but I'm thankful for the doctors, as well.
0:23:22 > 0:23:24Everybody has to play their part.
0:23:26 > 0:23:30But I'm very, very thankful for health. Very, very thankful.
0:23:44 > 0:23:47'Our house would be a bit of a madhouse.
0:23:47 > 0:23:49'We always had an open door.
0:23:49 > 0:23:52'There were always a lot of people coming and going
0:23:52 > 0:23:56'and the caravan, for me, was my escape, if you like.
0:24:01 > 0:24:04'It was always my place of study.
0:24:04 > 0:24:08'I could have got the kids settled, got into bed, read my Bible.
0:24:08 > 0:24:12'And that's where I'd have done a lot of my spiritual growth.
0:24:14 > 0:24:18Sometimes you need that quietness, that stillness,
0:24:18 > 0:24:22to hear his voice and it's getting that quiet time sometimes...
0:24:23 > 0:24:27..helps to discern what it is we need to be doing next.
0:24:35 > 0:24:37We're all on a journey
0:24:37 > 0:24:43and some people's lives take them down roads that they wouldn't choose
0:24:43 > 0:24:46so the first thing I had to do was tell my husband.
0:24:47 > 0:24:52'Initially he sort of felt, "Don't start the preaching thing.'
0:24:52 > 0:24:55"Don't ever preach to me, Maggie." Stuff like that.
0:24:55 > 0:24:59So, initially, that was difficult enough.
0:24:59 > 0:25:02Marrying our two different paths again,
0:25:02 > 0:25:05because he would have seen me as changed.
0:25:05 > 0:25:08And I couldn't deny that, I was changed.
0:25:08 > 0:25:13My friends just couldn't believe. "What are you at? You're joking!"
0:25:13 > 0:25:17But I think part of friendship is accepting people how they are.
0:25:20 > 0:25:22People think that Christians are judgmental,
0:25:22 > 0:25:25but other people are very judgmental of Christians
0:25:25 > 0:25:29because people have an idea in their lives
0:25:29 > 0:25:31of what a Christian should look like.'
0:25:31 > 0:25:35The world judges us in what they perceive a Christian to be
0:25:35 > 0:25:38and I would say, you know,
0:25:38 > 0:25:40just because I love Jesus
0:25:40 > 0:25:42doesn't mean to say that I'm not human either.
0:25:43 > 0:25:47Faith is so real to me and so precious
0:25:47 > 0:25:50I do want other people to get it.
0:25:50 > 0:25:53I do want to give that faith away. I do want everybody to have it.
0:25:53 > 0:25:56But if they don't get it, I mean, that's up to them.
0:25:56 > 0:25:59I don't judge them for it.
0:26:12 > 0:26:15And I praise you, Lord, for the day whenever you called me
0:26:15 > 0:26:18to yourself, Lord, the day that I bowed my knee and, Lord,
0:26:18 > 0:26:21accepted you as my Lord and saviour.
0:26:21 > 0:26:25So, Lord, I praise you. Just thank you for this day...
0:26:25 > 0:26:29'I think sometimes you have to go through hard stuff
0:26:29 > 0:26:31'to realise what God is made of.
0:26:31 > 0:26:34'God has brought me through.
0:26:34 > 0:26:38'I turned to his word and he has answered in his word.
0:26:38 > 0:26:40'And that's my solace.'
0:26:42 > 0:26:47'But at least I know that at the end of that I have eternal life.
0:26:47 > 0:26:49'I will be going to heaven.'
0:26:49 > 0:26:53And how many people can stand up and say that?
0:26:53 > 0:26:55But the Bible gives us confidence to say that.
0:27:01 > 0:27:03Because you have Jesus in your life,
0:27:03 > 0:27:06because God has given you the gift of the Holy Spirit,
0:27:06 > 0:27:10you can be assured that you're going to heaven when you die.
0:27:10 > 0:27:12That really changed my life,
0:27:12 > 0:27:13knowing that Jesus is with me,
0:27:13 > 0:27:16knowing that the Holy Spirit is guiding me in the things
0:27:16 > 0:27:21that I say and do, as I seek to respond and live out
0:27:21 > 0:27:24the call that I feel God has given me
0:27:24 > 0:27:28and how God's plan for my life and for the world
0:27:28 > 0:27:30is working its way out
0:27:30 > 0:27:34as we reach to the point where Jesus will return.
0:27:37 > 0:27:42Jesus said to the disciples, "I go to prepare a place for you
0:27:42 > 0:27:45"and where I am, there you may be also."
0:27:46 > 0:27:52And Jesus is now away nearly maybe 2,000 years, preparing a place.
0:27:54 > 0:27:56It's going to be tremendous.
0:27:56 > 0:28:00And, not only that, when I get there,
0:28:00 > 0:28:03I'm going to see my mother.
0:28:03 > 0:28:05That'll be some day.
0:28:05 > 0:28:10And all those good Christian folk will meet again,
0:28:10 > 0:28:12never to part no more.
0:28:12 > 0:28:23There'll be no tears, no crying, no sorrow.
0:28:28 > 0:28:29# ..gone down
0:28:37 > 0:28:42# My rest a stone
0:28:42 > 0:28:55# Yet in my dreams I'd be
0:28:56 > 0:29:06And over a decade with BBC Northern Ireland,
0:29:06 > 0:29:14the one constant to cross all Stephen Nolan's programmes