0:00:02 > 0:00:04Hello and welcome to Santer.
0:00:09 > 0:00:12Coming up on the programme: Kirsty Jess and her lovely dog, Buddy,
0:00:12 > 0:00:16take on the Dog Agility Challenge - and I ha' a go mysel'.
0:00:16 > 0:00:18Go on, go!
0:00:18 > 0:00:20Go on! Out!
0:00:20 > 0:00:23Leslie Morrow looks back at a film
0:00:23 > 0:00:25made about his twa uncles in the Glens.
0:00:31 > 0:00:34Mark Wilson follows the fiddle trail to Cape Breton.
0:00:34 > 0:00:38The largest fiddle in the world was erected here in Sydney
0:00:38 > 0:00:41in recognition to the thousands of fiddle-players
0:00:41 > 0:00:44who contributed so much to the music of Cape Breton.
0:00:44 > 0:00:47I find out how the decline of the fishing industry in Portavogie
0:00:47 > 0:00:50has affected the Ulster-Scots language.
0:00:50 > 0:00:53They're going to different jobs - they're having to try to be
0:00:53 > 0:00:56understood more and changing their language.
0:01:01 > 0:01:04But before all that, what about a wee thin of music
0:01:04 > 0:01:07and chat from the Low Country Boys?
0:01:29 > 0:01:34# A wee bit ragit laddie goes wandering through the street
0:01:34 > 0:01:38# He's wading 'mong the snow with his wee hacked feet
0:01:39 > 0:01:44# He's shivering in the cold blast and greetin' wi' the pain
0:01:44 > 0:01:49# Oh, who's the poor wean calling? He's a drunkard's ragit wean... #
0:01:49 > 0:01:51We were playing in the early years -
0:01:51 > 0:01:53there were four of us
0:01:53 > 0:01:56whenever Mark and Graeme were with us.
0:01:56 > 0:01:58The four of us were getting up onto the stage
0:01:58 > 0:02:00and this ol' boy was compere.
0:02:00 > 0:02:04And he ducked his head round and he said, "Hey, boy, what's you boys' name?"
0:02:04 > 0:02:07And we said, "We're just four boys from the Low Country."
0:02:07 > 0:02:11And he went out to the front of the hall and then he said,
0:02:11 > 0:02:15"Well, put your hands together now for the Low Country Boys!"
0:02:15 > 0:02:16So that's how it stuck.
0:02:19 > 0:02:23# ..And try to get him back again to act a father's part... #
0:02:23 > 0:02:27The Low Country's from... Well, I suppose you may say,
0:02:27 > 0:02:30Greyabbey across to Millisle really, or Ballywalter
0:02:30 > 0:02:34richt down here, richt down to this side of Portaferry, you know?
0:02:34 > 0:02:35If you looked at it on a map,
0:02:35 > 0:02:39the top end of the Peninsula is high and the bottom end's high
0:02:39 > 0:02:41and the middle bit is actually low.
0:02:41 > 0:02:43In days gone by, down there, Kircubbin,
0:02:43 > 0:02:45the water on the far side of Kircubbin, Gransha,
0:02:45 > 0:02:49the water come away in at the Saltwater Brig, all the way inland at high tide -
0:02:49 > 0:02:52you'd ha' thought it was an island. Hence "Low Country".
0:02:53 > 0:02:58# Oh, see the wee bit bairnie His heart is unco full
0:02:58 > 0:03:03# The sleet is blain' caul and he's draikie through and through... #
0:03:04 > 0:03:07I would say around a third of our songs would be Ulster-Scots.
0:03:09 > 0:03:13Gibson and I will split and Richard sings some as well.
0:03:13 > 0:03:16Some folk maybe would find it hard to understand but,
0:03:16 > 0:03:21some of the songs we sing, the description of the words puts the message across...
0:03:21 > 0:03:23How would you describe it? ..in an easier form -
0:03:23 > 0:03:26it's easier to understand, you know - it's more graphic.
0:03:26 > 0:03:29# But, oh, his mother's gone
0:03:29 > 0:03:35# And there's no-one to guide the bairn, the drunkard's ragit wean... #
0:03:35 > 0:03:38You know, "The drunkard's ragit wean", instead of saying
0:03:38 > 0:03:41'My child or my father's a drunk,' this is about an aul fella who
0:03:41 > 0:03:45comes in full every night and the wee fella's runnin' the streets,
0:03:45 > 0:03:46runnin' about with aucht on him
0:03:46 > 0:03:49and his feet blistered and full o' hacks an' that,
0:03:49 > 0:03:51runnin' through the snow.
0:03:51 > 0:03:55Well that's life, that does happen, but this is just in the Ulster-Scots,
0:03:55 > 0:03:59makes it mair graphic, it's easy to understand, I think, you know.
0:03:59 > 0:04:01And is the Ulster-Scots important to you as well?
0:04:01 > 0:04:05I didn't understand a word of it!
0:04:03 > 0:04:05THEY LAUGH
0:04:05 > 0:04:07Could somebody tell me what he just said?
0:04:07 > 0:04:12# And try to get him back again to act a father's part
0:04:12 > 0:04:17# And mak him lay the drunkard's cup and never taste again
0:04:17 > 0:04:23# Oh, cherish with a parent's care, his poor wee ragit wean. #
0:04:23 > 0:04:26I'm not saying it's like learning a new language but it's interesting
0:04:26 > 0:04:29hearing words like 'sheugh' where they came from.
0:04:29 > 0:04:32And, what was it, a certain amount of scunneration here!
0:04:32 > 0:04:35I'd never heard before.
0:04:35 > 0:04:37It's a very expressive tongue
0:04:37 > 0:04:40and it's good fun listening to these boys.
0:04:40 > 0:04:46# And try to get him back again to act a father's part
0:04:46 > 0:04:51# And mak him lay the drunkard's cup and never taste again
0:04:51 > 0:04:56# And cherish wi' a parent's care, his poor wee ragit wean. #
0:05:08 > 0:05:11Here we ha' a gorgeous dog, Buddy,
0:05:11 > 0:05:13wi' his owner and handler, of course, Kirsty,
0:05:13 > 0:05:16and there's a whole rig of obstacles out here on this course.
0:05:16 > 0:05:18An agility course today.
0:05:18 > 0:05:20And Buddy's going to show us
0:05:20 > 0:05:22- how it's done, isn't he? - He is, hopefully.
0:05:26 > 0:05:30Dog agility is a growing sport wi' a number of clubs running shows in Northern Ireland.
0:05:31 > 0:05:36There's now a good number of handlers and dogs haulin' their ain on a national level.
0:05:36 > 0:05:40Kirsty and Buddy are members of Castlereagh and District Training Club.
0:05:43 > 0:05:46Whenever you're training a dog, the dog goes on your voice -
0:05:46 > 0:05:49your verbal commands and your body language.
0:05:49 > 0:05:52So whenever you're doing like this,
0:05:52 > 0:05:54you'll turn your shoulder where you want the dog to go.
0:05:54 > 0:05:58An example would be the tunnel - go through, through, through.
0:05:58 > 0:06:00Good boy!
0:06:00 > 0:06:02How did you get intae all this?
0:06:02 > 0:06:05I started when I was nine with my pet Labrador,
0:06:05 > 0:06:08came to the local dog club, Castlereagh Club,
0:06:08 > 0:06:11and worked my way up the ranks - started in the Beginner Class
0:06:11 > 0:06:14and now I'm a trainer and Secretary.
0:06:14 > 0:06:16Round, round, go, go, go, go!
0:06:16 > 0:06:19So this is just called 'The Weaves' then?
0:06:19 > 0:06:24This is the Weaves, yes. Go! Weave! Go, weave! Go on!
0:06:24 > 0:06:28- Weave, weave, weave! Yeah! Good boy! - Great.
0:06:36 > 0:06:39Whenever you start training your dog,
0:06:39 > 0:06:43what sort of time are you aiming for to hae it trained-in and good?
0:06:43 > 0:06:46Well you can start competing in Agility about a year-and-a-half -
0:06:46 > 0:06:48so there'd be 18 months before you compete
0:06:48 > 0:06:51but they can start training a lot younger than that.
0:06:51 > 0:06:53What sort of wee things do you do?
0:06:53 > 0:06:58I do all sorts of wee tricks and treats. So Buddy? Can you sit?
0:06:58 > 0:07:01Go high-five? Lie down, lie.
0:07:01 > 0:07:03Back. Bend.
0:07:03 > 0:07:06Go right, left. Sit.
0:07:06 > 0:07:08Good lad. Legs, legs, legs.
0:07:08 > 0:07:14Can you go heel? Heel? Legs? Good lad.
0:07:24 > 0:07:26See-saw! See-saw!
0:07:26 > 0:07:31Kirsty, you wouldnae need to be worried about muck and dirt?
0:07:31 > 0:07:34It's definitely not glamorous - the uniform is tracksuit bottoms!
0:07:34 > 0:07:37It's not like nice dresses or anything.
0:07:37 > 0:07:40I see you got the wee flag here on your sleeve - the Ulster flag?
0:07:40 > 0:07:44I do, yes, I'm representing Northern Ireland.
0:07:44 > 0:07:47So I've represented Northern Ireland at Crufts a few times
0:07:47 > 0:07:50- with my other dog. - Oh! Did you win anything there?
0:07:50 > 0:07:53I came sixth overall, sixth in the world,
0:07:53 > 0:07:55so it was quite good,
0:07:55 > 0:07:59good fun and Crufts is always nice - nice atmosphere, prestigious event.
0:07:59 > 0:08:01Well, I'll tell you what - I'll bring my pup up
0:08:01 > 0:08:05- and you can train it for me.- OK.
0:08:12 > 0:08:17Ronnie, you're very passionate about this dog agility sport. How long hae ye been at it?
0:08:17 > 0:08:19Well, I've been at it for more than 20 years
0:08:19 > 0:08:22and it's a great way of getting exercise.
0:08:22 > 0:08:25I hae to say some of the dogs we've seen the day are brilliant -
0:08:25 > 0:08:28and their handlers of course. It's great.
0:08:28 > 0:08:31- Well I'll get a dog now and you can have a go.- Right!
0:08:31 > 0:08:35- Come, come, come on. - Come on, through.- Yeeeoh!
0:08:35 > 0:08:38- Turn.- Turn through. - Point over this jump!
0:08:38 > 0:08:42- Point to the next jump which is over there.- Over there!
0:08:42 > 0:08:46Go on, go! Go, go. Out!
0:08:46 > 0:08:50Tweed, Tweed, go on!
0:08:50 > 0:08:56Through, through, through! Through, through, here!
0:08:57 > 0:09:03Over, here, round! Here, Tweed - over.
0:09:03 > 0:09:07Weave, weave, weave, weave, weave, weave, weave, weave, weave!
0:09:07 > 0:09:11Here - see-saw.
0:09:11 > 0:09:15- Good boy!- Well done, well done!
0:09:15 > 0:09:18- Well, Kirsty?- That was very good! - Not as easy as it looks, is it?
0:09:18 > 0:09:21It's not. Well done, it's hard to run someone else's dog.
0:09:21 > 0:09:25So you're representing Northern Ireland at the World Championships in Belgium?
0:09:25 > 0:09:28I am indeed. It's in May this year and it's in Belgium, as you said,
0:09:28 > 0:09:31so we're going over there. So it should be good fun.
0:09:31 > 0:09:36- There's about 12 of us on the team. - Right. Think there's any chance I might be on the team?
0:09:36 > 0:09:39You never know, we might do a bit of training, we'll see!
0:09:42 > 0:09:45Last time on Santer, Mark Wilson was in Donegal,
0:09:45 > 0:09:47following the fiddle style
0:09:47 > 0:09:50that made its way through Ulster from Scotland.
0:09:50 > 0:09:54Now he stays on that fiddle trail, ower the Atlantic to Canada.
0:10:10 > 0:10:13My journey which started in Ulster, in Donegal,
0:10:13 > 0:10:16has brought me across the Atlantic to Canada,
0:10:16 > 0:10:19to Cape Breton, Nova Scotia and the town of Sydney.
0:10:25 > 0:10:28Now the Ulster-Scots migration to America is well-known
0:10:28 > 0:10:30and well-documented.
0:10:30 > 0:10:33But there were thousands of Ulster-Scots families
0:10:33 > 0:10:36who came here to what would become known as Canada,
0:10:36 > 0:10:40through ports like this - Sydney in Nova Scotia.
0:10:41 > 0:10:43But why come here?
0:10:43 > 0:10:48Firstly, the cost of the boat passage was half of that to Boston.
0:10:48 > 0:10:51And secondly, land here was being given away free -
0:10:51 > 0:10:54200 acres to the head of every family
0:10:54 > 0:10:58and a further 50 acres to every other family member.
0:10:58 > 0:10:59So for an Ulster-Scots family,
0:10:59 > 0:11:03coming here became a very attractive proposition.
0:11:03 > 0:11:07And if they brought their families, their culture and their traditions,
0:11:07 > 0:11:10they would also bring with them their music.
0:11:10 > 0:11:13PIPES PLAY
0:11:35 > 0:11:38The largest fiddle in the world, the ceilidh fiddle,
0:11:38 > 0:11:41was erected here in the harbour in Sydney,
0:11:41 > 0:11:44in recognition to the thousands of fiddle-players who contributed
0:11:44 > 0:11:47so much to the music of Cape Breton and Nova Scotia.
0:11:47 > 0:11:50Those fiddle players came from Scotland
0:11:50 > 0:11:52and of course they came from Ulster as well,
0:11:52 > 0:11:55where the styles are very similar to the style
0:11:55 > 0:11:58that would become Cape Breton music.
0:11:58 > 0:12:02And in Cape Breton, where you had fiddle-music, you also had pipes.
0:12:02 > 0:12:06TRADITIONAL MUSIC PLAYS
0:12:25 > 0:12:29Cape Breton music has its origins in Scottish traditional music.
0:12:29 > 0:12:32Early in the day, I guess, the fiddle and the pipes
0:12:32 > 0:12:36were the main instruments here in Cape Breton when people came over
0:12:36 > 0:12:40and I know a lot of the really old-style pipers,
0:12:40 > 0:12:43from the 1800s onwards,
0:12:43 > 0:12:47they're also fiddlers so they had both instruments under their arm.
0:12:47 > 0:12:52TRADITIONAL MUSIC PLAYS
0:13:09 > 0:13:13Just as in Scotland and Ireland, the fiddle, the pipes and dance
0:13:13 > 0:13:17would become inseparable - but here that dance was more free-form.
0:13:17 > 0:13:20That would become known as Nova Scotian Step Dance.
0:13:20 > 0:13:23MUSIC
0:13:33 > 0:13:36There's a lot more dance players, I guess, around here.
0:13:36 > 0:13:39So, yeah, it links up with the step-dancing and I suppose
0:13:39 > 0:13:43that's what's more unique about what we do because playing square dances,
0:13:43 > 0:13:46you're playing for step-dancers, you want to, you know,
0:13:46 > 0:13:50- the pretty step-dancers on the floor...- Are they always pretty?
0:13:50 > 0:13:53Not always! But if you can deliver what they like,
0:13:53 > 0:13:57they like to dance to a certain kind of music
0:13:57 > 0:13:59and I think that is where the drive comes from.
0:13:59 > 0:14:03We take a lot of pride getting the good dancers on the floor, you know?
0:14:03 > 0:14:07And it takes a certain blast to get those good guys up
0:14:07 > 0:14:12and get a good crowd on the floor for a square set.
0:14:12 > 0:14:14MUSIC
0:14:16 > 0:14:19When people first came over, the entertainment was music
0:14:19 > 0:14:22and we both grew up in families where music
0:14:22 > 0:14:24was integral to the pastime.
0:14:24 > 0:14:27If you're around it all the time, you don't know anything else
0:14:27 > 0:14:31so you end up carrying on the same traditions.
0:14:31 > 0:14:35But people here would be aware of that music and where it came from?
0:14:35 > 0:14:39- Of its roots back in Ulster and in Scotland again?- Oh, for sure yeah.
0:14:39 > 0:14:42We're very much aware that our music
0:14:42 > 0:14:46has kind of travelled over the ocean, indeed.
0:14:54 > 0:14:58I've always known about the contribution of Scottish music
0:14:58 > 0:15:01to Cape Breton music but I never made the connection
0:15:01 > 0:15:07of the Scots who had moved through Ulster and then on to Cape Breton.
0:15:07 > 0:15:11But it's inconceivable to think that if so many of them had went to
0:15:11 > 0:15:14Ulster first of all, and then moved to Cape Breton,
0:15:14 > 0:15:19they didn't bring their music, their dance and their culture. Of course they did!
0:15:19 > 0:15:22And hopefully I'm going to find more examples of that as I travel on
0:15:22 > 0:15:27further through Nova Scotia and back down to Halifax
0:15:27 > 0:15:28and the United States.
0:15:32 > 0:15:33Going round the country,
0:15:33 > 0:15:37I have had the privilege of interviewing a few people,
0:15:37 > 0:15:39and one of the most memorable interviews
0:15:39 > 0:15:42was a man called Johnny Aykison.
0:15:42 > 0:15:44That's Atkinson now to his proper name,
0:15:44 > 0:15:47but that's all we ever called him - Johnny Aykison.
0:15:47 > 0:15:51And Johnny was in his 80s
0:15:51 > 0:15:54and I said, "How are you keeping, Johnny?" "I'm not doing so well.
0:15:54 > 0:15:57"I was in the hospital and they put a camera down me throat".
0:15:57 > 0:16:01I said, "What was that like?" "Och, it was great", he said.
0:16:01 > 0:16:05"There was a wee nurse there, 22". Now Johnny is well into his 80s.
0:16:05 > 0:16:08"And her and me just clicked," he says.
0:16:08 > 0:16:12"We just got on like a house on fire". I says, "Is that right?"
0:16:12 > 0:16:16And she says, "Are you married Johnny?" He says, "I'm not married.
0:16:16 > 0:16:18"But I was married, I'm a widower".
0:16:18 > 0:16:21"And had you any weans, Johnny?"
0:16:21 > 0:16:23"Aye," he says, "we had eight weans".
0:16:23 > 0:16:27"Oh," she says, "Eight - that's far too many. Two would do me lovely.
0:16:27 > 0:16:31"Johnny, could you not get a hobby in the evening to occupy yourself?"
0:16:31 > 0:16:35And Johnny says, "Darlin', thon was my hobby."
0:16:35 > 0:16:38LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
0:16:40 > 0:16:43Back in the middle of the '90s, there was a film about twa brothers
0:16:43 > 0:16:46that lived in a farm in The Glens.
0:16:46 > 0:16:49You might have heard of it. The film was called Us Boys.
0:16:49 > 0:16:53Bith the men were bachelors and they were uncles of our good friend, Leslie Morrow.
0:16:53 > 0:16:58Now and again, Leslie likes to take the film out and look at it -
0:16:58 > 0:17:00and over the next twa or three weeks,
0:17:00 > 0:17:02we're going to look at bits of it wi' him.
0:17:02 > 0:17:04I think you might enjoy this.
0:17:23 > 0:17:26This is a film about two uncles of mine,
0:17:26 > 0:17:30was made about the two boys about 15 years ago and it's called 'Us Boys'.
0:17:30 > 0:17:34And it's a film that we pull out now and again and stick it on
0:17:34 > 0:17:37cos there's a lot of memories caught up in that film
0:17:37 > 0:17:39and a lot of history in it.
0:17:54 > 0:17:56My Uncle Stewart and Uncle Ernie,
0:17:56 > 0:17:59a pair of characters in their own right.
0:17:59 > 0:18:01Wild men for a ceilidh and a bit of craic.
0:18:01 > 0:18:07These pair of boys lived, kind of up on the hill behind Glenarm village
0:18:07 > 0:18:12The pair of boys lived together - they never married or anything.
0:18:12 > 0:18:14They were just like husband and wife themselves, kind of thing.
0:18:41 > 0:18:43They were happy enough.
0:18:43 > 0:18:45Stewart buttered the bread, spread the table,
0:18:45 > 0:18:48Ernie could eat everything that he put on it.
0:19:05 > 0:19:09The buildings is the right thing. They never changed very much.
0:19:09 > 0:19:14These two boys were quite happy living up in here.
0:19:14 > 0:19:17You'll see the sort of setting here, it's no' great the day,
0:19:17 > 0:19:20it's kind of overcast there a wee bit.
0:19:20 > 0:19:22But when you're down here on a nice sunny day
0:19:22 > 0:19:25and you stand at the bottom of the yard and looking left,
0:19:25 > 0:19:28you're looking down over Glenarm village and out to sea.
0:19:59 > 0:20:02Ernie was a great boy for going through the papers
0:20:02 > 0:20:05and reading horses' forms - but he didn't go by their forms.
0:20:05 > 0:20:08Maybe if there was a horse called Running Bob
0:20:08 > 0:20:11and he knew a story about some old man, Bob, up in the countryside
0:20:11 > 0:20:15that he'd heard that morning, he'd say, "That horse is sure to come in".
0:20:15 > 0:20:17He'd ha' wrote it down and the radio was on and he'd sit
0:20:17 > 0:20:20and he was second to none at picking horses!
0:20:54 > 0:20:57Well they're my uncles and aye,
0:20:57 > 0:21:00they're special enough just in their way of going.
0:21:00 > 0:21:03No' just to me - the rest of my family, my brothers
0:21:03 > 0:21:08and my da, these boys' brothers and all. There's something about them.
0:21:28 > 0:21:33Wasn't that quare footage? And we'll hae more from Us Boys next week.
0:21:33 > 0:21:35COCKEREL CROWS
0:21:48 > 0:21:51Here we are in Portavogie, Nicky, and I know that Portavogie's
0:21:51 > 0:21:54known for its fishing industry. It's not as busy here the nicht
0:21:54 > 0:21:57as it probably would have been a lot of years ago.
0:21:57 > 0:22:01No, well, I mind, as a wee boy, you know, from that
0:22:01 > 0:22:05side of the harbour there, you could have walked right across the boats
0:22:05 > 0:22:09to this side, and then probably right across into the market there.
0:22:09 > 0:22:12There was that many boats, they were jam-packed.
0:22:17 > 0:22:22So do you think with the fishing industry dropping away, that hairmed the language?
0:22:22 > 0:22:26Very much so. I mind as wee boy standing here,
0:22:26 > 0:22:30even wi' coming down on a Saturday morning with me da,
0:22:30 > 0:22:33and the oul boys would have been standing maybe all along there
0:22:33 > 0:22:37and right across, mending nets and stuff,
0:22:37 > 0:22:39and they just yarned away. They didnae care
0:22:39 > 0:22:42who could understand them or who couldnae.
0:22:42 > 0:22:44They talked away the same.
0:22:44 > 0:22:47They would have been at the fishing maybe for a full week
0:22:47 > 0:22:50with their family - their family had been on the boat, their da, uncle -
0:22:50 > 0:22:53and the language would have been there 24/7.
0:22:53 > 0:22:56And now they're going to different jobs,
0:22:56 > 0:23:00they're having to try to be understood more,
0:23:00 > 0:23:02and changing their language.
0:23:11 > 0:23:15- You know whose boat this is, Robbie, don't you?- Yes, definitely.
0:23:15 > 0:23:18- Whose is it?- My dad and my granddad's.- And who else is on it?
0:23:18 > 0:23:21- My uncle too, Christopher. - They're all fishin'.- Yeah.
0:23:21 > 0:23:25- Do you think you're going to be a fisherman?- I'm not so sure yet.
0:23:25 > 0:23:29- Well, do you ever go out on the boat with your Daddy?- All the time. - Do you? What's your job on it?
0:23:29 > 0:23:33I clean the wheelhouse out and I get paid a fiver a week
0:23:33 > 0:23:36and it is in a big state right now.
0:23:36 > 0:23:40- There's my uncle there on the boat. - It is not! Is your da there at all?
0:23:40 > 0:23:41Yes, I can see him right there.
0:23:41 > 0:23:45Well, sure, we'll gi' him a wave and see if he sees us.
0:23:45 > 0:23:47Yoohoo!
0:23:54 > 0:23:56Here we are with three generations of the one family
0:23:56 > 0:23:59that's all in the fishing business -
0:23:59 > 0:24:01no, all but one in the fishing business.
0:24:01 > 0:24:04And of course we hae Jim and his son Mark
0:24:04 > 0:24:06and Marks's son, Robbie.
0:24:06 > 0:24:08And, Robbie, there's a certain way
0:24:08 > 0:24:11- to lift a prawn, you know how, don't you?- Yeah. - Would you like to show me?
0:24:11 > 0:24:14- You grab it by the sides.- Lovely.
0:24:15 > 0:24:18- Do you want to lift one? - No, thank you, no.
0:24:22 > 0:24:25So, Mark, you do this, and so does your da. How many mair do it?
0:24:25 > 0:24:29Well, I'm the sixth generation at the fishing, aye.
0:24:29 > 0:24:34- How about Robbie, do you think he'll ever do it?- He would be the seventh but he won't be.
0:24:34 > 0:24:37- He will not be doing it - sure you won't, Rob?- I hope so!
0:24:37 > 0:24:40No, you won't! No!
0:24:44 > 0:24:49You're standing here, it's quiet and you see all these doors shut -
0:24:49 > 0:24:52you were saying earlier that a while ago they would all have been open
0:24:52 > 0:24:54and by now there'd been...
0:24:54 > 0:24:58I mind being at school and coming down getting a summer job,
0:24:58 > 0:25:01or working at nights and most all them doors would have been open
0:25:01 > 0:25:05and the boats would have been up there landing, even boats waiting to come in
0:25:05 > 0:25:09to land fish, to land prawns, whatever was going.
0:25:09 > 0:25:10I mean, times were good.
0:25:12 > 0:25:14There's your grandson working.
0:25:14 > 0:25:17Had you your son out on the boat whenever you were on it at this age?
0:25:17 > 0:25:20- Aye.- Did he shovel prawns?- Aye! - How long have you been doing it?
0:25:20 > 0:25:25- 48 year.- 48 years? - Started when I was 14.
0:25:25 > 0:25:29- And do you like it?- I used to like it. I don't like it as much now!
0:25:29 > 0:25:32And your da before you and your grandfather?
0:25:32 > 0:25:34I'm the fifth generation, Mark will be the sixth.
0:25:34 > 0:25:38When they started at first, my great-grandfather started with sail,
0:25:38 > 0:25:42- they'd no engines. - I suppose they all talked in one tongue at that time,
0:25:42 > 0:25:44- and could understand one another? - Oh, aye.
0:25:44 > 0:25:46So do you think now, like Nicky said earlier on,
0:25:46 > 0:25:50maybe Ulster-Scots language is getting lost - you hae to make yourself understood
0:25:50 > 0:25:53- to different folk coming in? - Aye, definitely is.
0:25:53 > 0:25:57Used to be the oul fellas had a language, as you say, of their ain,
0:25:57 > 0:26:00and it was all different but now it's sort of lost its dialect.
0:26:03 > 0:26:07Even if it's not as busy as it was years ago, Nicky,
0:26:07 > 0:26:10- do you think there's still pride about fishing in Portavogie? - Definitely.
0:26:10 > 0:26:14Villagers are strange people in a way because they stick to their ain
0:26:14 > 0:26:18and they're always proud of where they come from, basically.
0:26:18 > 0:26:23I hanae met a villager yet that's no' proud of where he's come from.
0:26:23 > 0:26:27And of course they're powerful proud of Portavogie prawns.
0:26:27 > 0:26:31Portavogie prawns and Portavogie football team
0:26:31 > 0:26:34and anything that's related to Portavogie, they're very proud of,
0:26:34 > 0:26:36and rightly so.
0:26:40 > 0:26:42Well, that's it for another show.
0:26:42 > 0:26:46We're going to leave you with a song from Alice Cartmill called Love And Freedom.
0:26:46 > 0:26:48So to the next time, cheerio.
0:26:57 > 0:26:59# As I cam ower Strathmartine Mains
0:26:59 > 0:27:01# Wha dae ye think I seen?
0:27:01 > 0:27:03# But a braw young piper laddie
0:27:03 > 0:27:06# Cam a-linkin ower the green
0:27:06 > 0:27:09# Singing hey daughter, ho daughter, Dirrum-a-doo-a-day.
0:27:09 > 0:27:15# Singing hey daughter, ho daughter, Dirrum-a-doo-a-day.
0:27:15 > 0:27:18# He played a reel and he played a jig
0:27:18 > 0:27:20# He played a sweet strathspey
0:27:20 > 0:27:22# He roused my hairt 'til the beat skipped time
0:27:22 > 0:27:27# Til the tappin' o' ma tae. Singing hey daughter, ho daughter,
0:27:27 > 0:27:31# Dirrum-a-doo-a-day. Singing hey daughter, ho daughter,
0:27:31 > 0:27:33# Dirrum-a-doo-a-day.
0:27:33 > 0:27:38# Well I've nae gowd tae offer ye, I hae but little gear
0:27:38 > 0:27:42# But we'll hae love and freedom Can ye follow me my dear
0:27:42 > 0:27:46# Singing hey daughter, ho daughter, Dirrum-a-doo-a-day.
0:27:46 > 0:27:51# Singing hey daughter, ho daughter, Dirrum-a-doo-a-day... #
0:28:09 > 0:28:11# ..There's gowd in the broom o' the Sidlaw Hills
0:28:11 > 0:28:15# Honey in the heather sweet A speckled trout in the tarn
0:28:15 > 0:28:18# A cairpet 'neath oor feet
0:28:18 > 0:28:21# Singing hey daughter, ho daughter, Dirrum-a-doo-a-day.
0:28:21 > 0:28:27# Singing hey daughter, ho daughter, Dirrum-a-doo-a-day
0:28:27 > 0:28:30# He blew up his chanter
0:28:30 > 0:28:34# An' it's sic a spig he plays So I chose love and freedom
0:28:34 > 0:28:36# To wander all my days
0:28:36 > 0:28:40# Singing hey daughter, ho daughter, Dirrum-a-doo-a-day
0:28:40 > 0:28:45# Singing hey daughter, ho daughter, Dirrum-a-doo-a-day
0:28:45 > 0:28:48# Singing hey daughter, ho daughter, Dirrum-a-doo-a-day
0:28:48 > 0:28:53# Singing hey daughter, ho daughter, Dirrum-a-doo-a-day. #
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