0:00:02 > 0:00:03Hello and welcome to Santer.
0:00:08 > 0:00:10On this week's programme,
0:00:10 > 0:00:13I try go-karting with the Stirling Brothers from Banbridge.
0:00:13 > 0:00:18Jenson Button won one of these, David Coulthard won one of these, and Lewis Hamilton...
0:00:18 > 0:00:20well, he got a silver one.
0:00:20 > 0:00:24Mark Wilson gets the length of Portpatrick on his musical journey.
0:00:24 > 0:00:30In Scotland, a good party is a good ceilidh and a good ceilidh needs good music.
0:00:30 > 0:00:35Liam Logan and Gary Blair tell us all about the word "thick".
0:00:35 > 0:00:40- That doesn't mean they suddenly become stupid, it just means they have become brave and friendly.- Aye.
0:00:40 > 0:00:42In a very good way, of course.
0:00:42 > 0:00:45And our tour of the Ards finishes up in Ballywalter.
0:00:45 > 0:00:50Of course, they got on the bus to come home and a lot of the money never made it home.
0:00:50 > 0:00:55For they stopped in Newtown, went into Tate's Pub and that was the end of the meeting.
0:01:01 > 0:01:05Now, before all that, Emma Millar sings Caledonia.
0:01:15 > 0:01:20# A sailor and his true love lay doon tae mak their moan
0:01:20 > 0:01:23# When in by came ain o their ain countrymen
0:01:23 > 0:01:28# Sayin', rise up my bonnie lassie mak haste and come awa
0:01:28 > 0:01:31# There's a vessel lying bound for Caledonia
0:01:31 > 0:01:36# Oh, said the sailor, are ye willing for tae pay
0:01:36 > 0:01:40# Five hundred guineas afore on board ye gae?
0:01:40 > 0:01:44# I'll pay them plack and farthing afore on board I go
0:01:44 > 0:01:49# If ye'll tak me tae my bonnie Caledonia
0:01:49 > 0:01:52# Oh, said the sailor, her money we will tak
0:01:52 > 0:01:57# And when we're on the sea, we'll throw her over deck
0:01:57 > 0:02:01# Or sell her for a slave lang ere she win ava
0:02:01 > 0:02:05# But she'll never see her bonnie Caledonia
0:02:23 > 0:02:28# So the captain away tae the fair maid he has gaen
0:02:28 > 0:02:32# Says, what is the reason that ye're lying here sae lang?
0:02:32 > 0:02:36# An' what is the reason that ye're lying here at all?
0:02:36 > 0:02:41# For you've paid your passage dear tae Caledonia?
0:02:41 > 0:02:44# Oh, said the lassie, oh, woe is me
0:02:44 > 0:02:49# That ever I was born, sic hardships for tae see
0:02:49 > 0:02:53# For the sailor's got a lassie he likes better far than me
0:02:53 > 0:02:57# And it causes me to weep for Caledonia
0:02:57 > 0:03:01# So the captain away to the sailor he has gane
0:03:01 > 0:03:06# He's ta'en him by the neck and him overboard has thrown
0:03:06 > 0:03:10# Saying, tak this cup o' water though the liquor be but sma'
0:03:10 > 0:03:14# And drink your lassie's health tae Caledonia
0:03:14 > 0:03:18# They've sailed east and they've sailed west
0:03:18 > 0:03:23# Until they reached the land that they a' loved the best
0:03:23 > 0:03:27# For the winds they did roar and the seas they did beat
0:03:27 > 0:03:31# And they've all arrived safe to Caledonia
0:03:31 > 0:03:35# Well, they hadna been there but three quarters o' a year
0:03:35 > 0:03:39# When in fine silks and satins he's made her for tae wear
0:03:39 > 0:03:43# When in fine silks and satins he's made her for tae go
0:03:43 > 0:03:47# Noo she's the captain's wife in Caledonia
0:03:47 > 0:03:52# Noo she's the captain's wife in Caledonia. #
0:04:35 > 0:04:39Well, Alister, many's the time I've driven by this Dunseverick Castle
0:04:39 > 0:04:43and never really thought much about it. Where did it get its name from?
0:04:43 > 0:04:45It got its name from Severick.
0:04:45 > 0:04:48That was the man who built it, so it's his fortification,
0:04:48 > 0:04:53Dun Severick, and Severick was one of the joint High Kings of Ireland.
0:04:57 > 0:05:03What happened was that he and his brother divided Ireland between them, basically.
0:05:03 > 0:05:06They drew a line from Drogheda across to Limerick.
0:05:06 > 0:05:09Severick ran the northern portion of Ireland from here,
0:05:09 > 0:05:14and his brother then ran the southern portion from Tara.
0:05:14 > 0:05:20It doesn't look like very much now but, when you think of it, 1,500 years before Christ,
0:05:20 > 0:05:23this was the administrative centre of the top half of Ireland.
0:05:23 > 0:05:27- And had a very significant part in the Kingdom of Dalriada?- Absolutely.
0:05:27 > 0:05:32If you jump forward 2,000 years to the fifth century,
0:05:32 > 0:05:35Fergus then, who was the first of the Dalriada Kings.
0:05:35 > 0:05:42actually, you know, brought The Stone of Destiny from Tara to Dunseverick here
0:05:42 > 0:05:45and shipped it out to Dunaad in Scotland, the west coast of Scotland,
0:05:45 > 0:05:50which became his new administrative centre of the Kingdom of Dalriada.
0:05:50 > 0:05:52And Fergus, of course, was a local man.
0:05:52 > 0:05:55And Fergus was the last King to live here, was he?
0:05:55 > 0:06:01Yes, he moved his administrative centre to Scotland, to the new centre of the Dalriada Kingdom.
0:06:01 > 0:06:07And that Stone of Destiny then wound up in Westminster and used to sit below the Queen's throne
0:06:07 > 0:06:09when she was making the Queen's Speech.
0:06:09 > 0:06:12But I think around the time of the inauguration
0:06:12 > 0:06:16of the Scottish Parliament and Devolution, it was returned to Scotland.
0:06:22 > 0:06:25Well, Fergus was the fifth century, of course, Alister.
0:06:25 > 0:06:28There must be a whole lot more history after that?
0:06:28 > 0:06:30Yes, there is indeed and to summarise it,
0:06:30 > 0:06:37you have the Vikings raiding this place in the late 9th century - about 871, we reckon.
0:06:37 > 0:06:42And then it's coming into the possession of various local families,
0:06:42 > 0:06:48the O'Cahans and the McQuillans. and, of course, the MacDonnells, who were in direct descent
0:06:48 > 0:06:53of the Lords of the Isles and who had a chain of fortifications all round this coast,
0:06:53 > 0:06:57most famously, latterly at Dunluce right round to Glenarm I suppose, really.
0:06:57 > 0:07:04- So when would you think, Alister, was the last time anybody lived in the castle?- I would say 1641,
0:07:04 > 0:07:11when it was ransacked by Monroe's incoming Scottish army at the time of the Great Rebellion.
0:07:11 > 0:07:16That's all that's left of it - those two walls. But when you think about it,
0:07:16 > 0:07:21here's a fortification from which half of Ireland was run
0:07:21 > 0:07:26and built 1,525 years before the birth of Christ.
0:07:26 > 0:07:30Now, that's ancient Ireland and that's pretty impressive.
0:07:39 > 0:07:43Now, what about a wee rhyme from a lass from Balnamore?
0:07:44 > 0:07:47Mere Than A Twang.
0:07:47 > 0:07:50A've jaist bin considerin' tha wurds that a use
0:07:50 > 0:07:52Whun taakin tae freens or expressin' ma views.
0:07:52 > 0:07:56Tha Ulster-Scots leid, A'm gye heppy tae taak
0:07:56 > 0:07:59Tho thar's aptly sniggerin' gan oan ahint ma bak.
0:07:59 > 0:08:02At nicht whun A'm tired, A'll say that A'm daen,
0:08:02 > 0:08:06A'll tell fowk A daen richtly if A fin oot A've won,
0:08:06 > 0:08:09Tha middle-aged Romeo is jaist a fool oul cod
0:08:09 > 0:08:12Splaterin' oor tha dance fleur lake a horse needin' shod.
0:08:12 > 0:08:15If A'm coul, A'll be starvin', an no hungry ava
0:08:15 > 0:08:18A'm taakin foreign in London but untherstud in Buckna.
0:08:18 > 0:08:21Tha moral o tha rhyme is forget society's conventions
0:08:21 > 0:08:24An taak tha wye ye aye did wi'oot airs or pretensions.
0:08:25 > 0:08:28An be proud tae spake tha leid o tha boul Ulster-Scot
0:08:28 > 0:08:33Tha leid so mony o oor nybers haes sadly forgot!
0:08:35 > 0:08:40And now to Scotland, where Mark Wilson continues on his musical journey.
0:08:53 > 0:08:56A journey which started in Carlisle in England
0:08:56 > 0:08:58and took me up into Dumfries
0:08:58 > 0:09:01and on into Wigtown
0:09:01 > 0:09:06is now taking me further along the path of the exiled border reiver,
0:09:06 > 0:09:12towards the coast and the beautiful little harbour town of Portpatrick.
0:09:20 > 0:09:25The border reivers, who were exiled from their lands by James I,
0:09:25 > 0:09:29they sailed from places up this coast just like Portpatrick
0:09:30 > 0:09:33and sailed the 15 miles across to Ulster.
0:09:33 > 0:09:39That short distance would eventually become a permanent ferry and transport route.
0:09:39 > 0:09:43Hugh Montgomery was granted a charter to control the route
0:09:43 > 0:09:46between Portpatrick and Donaghadee
0:09:46 > 0:09:50and he also built the Ulster-Scots settlements on the Ards Peninsula.
0:09:51 > 0:09:56They traded in all sorts of goods - cattle, sheep,
0:09:56 > 0:09:59but it also brought back and forwards between the two lands,
0:09:59 > 0:10:03young couples wanting to get married, and here in Portpatrick,
0:10:03 > 0:10:07the local ministers really just disregarded the laws
0:10:07 > 0:10:12about the reading of banns, about a settled address here in Scotland,
0:10:12 > 0:10:16and couples used to sail across here into Portpatrick to get married.
0:10:16 > 0:10:20And Portpatrick became known as the Irish Gretna Green.
0:10:20 > 0:10:26And of course, with every good wedding, there's a good party.
0:10:26 > 0:10:30And in Scotland, a good party is a good ceilidh
0:10:30 > 0:10:33and a good ceilidh needs good music.
0:10:52 > 0:10:56Fred Morrison, one of the greatest pipers the world has ever known.
0:10:56 > 0:11:00Thanks so much, Fred, for coming down and joining me here today in Portpatrick.
0:11:00 > 0:11:04- It's an absolute pleasure. - You play highland pipes, you play lowland pipes,
0:11:04 > 0:11:06you play reel pipes, whistles, just about everything.
0:11:06 > 0:11:12Well, yeah. I started off as a highland piper, that was really my background.
0:11:12 > 0:11:17My Dad was a piper and of course, I never played in a band, mind you, but I got into the solo thing
0:11:17 > 0:11:22and I did all the big serious competitions and then out in Northern Ireland a lot
0:11:22 > 0:11:25doing recitals and all that kind of thing,
0:11:25 > 0:11:29before I got into the kind of other pipes and whistles and all that kind of thing.
0:11:37 > 0:11:44You're also probably the guy most responsible for the resurgence in lowland piping.
0:11:46 > 0:11:50I actually hadn't really heard much about lowland pipes.
0:11:50 > 0:11:56It was round about 1992 when I was first approached by a guy -
0:11:56 > 0:11:59a very, very respected and very fine maker of pipes -
0:11:59 > 0:12:01and he said, "Look, try these pipes."
0:12:01 > 0:12:05At the time I was playing with the group Clanalba and I wasn't interested.
0:12:05 > 0:12:08I said, "Look, I've got enough on my plate," and all that.
0:12:08 > 0:12:10Then I saw him again and he said, "Remember I told you?
0:12:10 > 0:12:13"Just have a go at them and I'll give you a good price."
0:12:13 > 0:12:16I said, "Look, I don't want them. I can't make it any more clear."
0:12:16 > 0:12:23And then a few days later, the postman came and this package arrived and I opened it up.
0:12:23 > 0:12:28and this set of pipes was inside and he said, "Just try them anyway," he said - there was a wee note there.
0:12:28 > 0:12:31I wasn't convinced but I played them and then I started a wee group
0:12:31 > 0:12:35and went on tour and that was it after that.
0:12:48 > 0:12:54The thing with the lowland pipes is, of course, that they're a more mellow instrument, for one.
0:12:54 > 0:13:00They're kind of the same volume as the accordion, the fiddle, the guitar.
0:13:00 > 0:13:03It just hits the spot with other instruments.
0:13:03 > 0:13:07And it means that you could walk into any session or folk group
0:13:07 > 0:13:09and play with all the others - the fiddles, the accordions.
0:13:09 > 0:13:13And that's really had a lot to do with the resurgence of it -
0:13:13 > 0:13:14it opened the scope for music.
0:13:14 > 0:13:19You weren't just going to the games or going to the competitions. You were doing your own thing.
0:13:19 > 0:13:23You could, whether it was social or professional or crossing over or that kind of thing,
0:13:23 > 0:13:27there were so many more doors, so many more avenues open to pipers.
0:13:46 > 0:13:49Some of the instruments that could play along with it
0:13:49 > 0:13:51like the harp, the fiddle, that accompanied
0:13:51 > 0:13:54the ballads that they had here maybe 300 and 400 years ago,
0:13:54 > 0:13:57that's meant a lot of that music coming to the fore again.
0:13:57 > 0:14:01Yeah, the resurgence of bringing the instrument back into play,
0:14:01 > 0:14:06you know, of course, will help any resurgence in the lowland culture.
0:14:06 > 0:14:09I mean, I think there's a real gap. I think people need to hear it.
0:14:09 > 0:14:13It's not the background I come from but I've heard a lot of it.
0:14:13 > 0:14:15Beautiful music, and it suits the instrument.
0:14:29 > 0:14:33WHOOPING AND APPLAUSE
0:14:33 > 0:14:37It was here in Portpatrick that the reivers' Scottish journey
0:14:37 > 0:14:39would have ended as they got in their boats
0:14:39 > 0:14:43and sailed the 12 or 15 miles across to Ulster.
0:14:43 > 0:14:47But I'm not going home yet. I'm going to turn and head northwards
0:14:47 > 0:14:51up the west coast in search of even more musical tradition.
0:14:51 > 0:14:55And we'll join Mark on his journey throughout the rest of the series
0:14:55 > 0:14:57as he heads north to Dunoon
0:14:57 > 0:15:01and then on to Campbeltown at the edge of the Mull of Kintyre.
0:15:06 > 0:15:09Throughout this series, Gary Blair and Liam Logan
0:15:09 > 0:15:12have been looking at the different meanings to words in Ulster-Scots.
0:15:12 > 0:15:16So far, you've had "road", "rough" and "big".
0:15:16 > 0:15:18This time, the word's "thick".
0:15:18 > 0:15:21Of course, Gary, there are some words that mean
0:15:21 > 0:15:24something different in Ulster-Scots than they do in English.
0:15:24 > 0:15:26Aye, I agree. I know what you're saying.
0:15:26 > 0:15:27Words like "thick".
0:15:27 > 0:15:30"Thick" would be an excellent example.
0:15:30 > 0:15:34Most people, when they use the word "thick" in English, mean "stupid",
0:15:34 > 0:15:36somebody that's not very bright.
0:15:36 > 0:15:39But when we would use it in Ulster-Scots,
0:15:39 > 0:15:41it would be, to my mind, somebody that was stubborn.
0:15:41 > 0:15:45- Aye, "thick and thran". - Thick and thran.
0:15:45 > 0:15:50"Thran", I think, comes from Scots. I think the initial word is "thra".
0:15:50 > 0:15:54And that meant when you got a beast
0:15:54 > 0:15:56and it threw its heid about,
0:15:56 > 0:15:58you would say it was "brave and thran".
0:15:58 > 0:16:01They'd toss the heid and get into a whole thran,
0:16:01 > 0:16:02and start thranin' with you.
0:16:02 > 0:16:05- And you would get people like that. - Aye, true.
0:16:05 > 0:16:07And then you have friendship, closeness,
0:16:07 > 0:16:10- where two people could be thick. - "Friendly"?- Aye.
0:16:10 > 0:16:12That goes right back to Elizabethan English,
0:16:12 > 0:16:15and it's still in use in ordinary English today.
0:16:15 > 0:16:17The phrase, I think, is "as thick as thieves".
0:16:17 > 0:16:21"Him and her have got very thick lately."
0:16:21 > 0:16:24That doesn't mean they've suddenly become stupid.
0:16:24 > 0:16:26It just means they've become brave and friendly,
0:16:26 > 0:16:28in a very good way, of course.
0:16:28 > 0:16:30But yet, if they fall out, they're not very thin!
0:16:30 > 0:16:32HE LAUGHS
0:16:32 > 0:16:34If only you could be, Gary, that'd be great.
0:16:34 > 0:16:36It would serve me well, too, I can tell you!
0:16:44 > 0:16:46You know, I've never been go-karting before
0:16:46 > 0:16:48and I'm really looking forward to it.
0:16:50 > 0:16:52Maybe it's a good job there's nobody else here.
0:17:09 > 0:17:12Oh, I thought I had this place all to myself.
0:17:12 > 0:17:16- How many times did you boys lap me? - I stopped counting after a while.
0:17:16 > 0:17:20- How fast were we going in those karts there, Adam?- Not fast enough.
0:17:20 > 0:17:21I can go a lot faster.
0:17:26 > 0:17:31Adam and Carl Stirling are twa o' three brothers who have been
0:17:31 > 0:17:34big achievers in the sport of go-karting.
0:17:34 > 0:17:37They have won trophies on both the British and the world stage.
0:17:40 > 0:17:44I started when I was eight, so that would have been 2001.
0:17:44 > 0:17:47At first I wasn't the best, to begin, but with time and practice
0:17:47 > 0:17:51I eventually ended up achieving the British Championship.
0:17:54 > 0:17:57I also started when I was eight, in 2002.
0:17:57 > 0:18:02I came third in the World Championship, winning the second round in Alcaniz in Spain.
0:18:02 > 0:18:06And you have another brother, Craig, that races as well, or had been racing?
0:18:06 > 0:18:10And you can't, I believe, start this sport until you're eight.
0:18:10 > 0:18:14- You have to be eight years of age? - Yes, that has been the case but they've now brought out
0:18:14 > 0:18:18a new class called Bambinos, and I think that starts at five -
0:18:18 > 0:18:20five years to eight years old -
0:18:20 > 0:18:22and then you move into the normal karting then.
0:18:22 > 0:18:27It's just trying to get drivers into karting as soon as possible.
0:18:34 > 0:18:37I was in the normal go-kart you would get
0:18:37 > 0:18:39whenever a crowd of boys goes out on a stag do, or girls go out.
0:18:39 > 0:18:46- What would the difference be? - Well, for example, just take this section of the kart here.
0:18:46 > 0:18:48You've got the tyre, for instance.
0:18:48 > 0:18:52This tyre would only do two, three races, whereas the tyres you were on
0:18:52 > 0:18:54would maybe be two, three months old.
0:18:54 > 0:18:55The pods, for example,
0:18:55 > 0:19:00these would be much more streamlined to try and get maximum speed out of a kart.
0:19:00 > 0:19:03The top speed of this here, which would be a Senior Max,
0:19:03 > 0:19:07would be 70mph, whereas one of those karts you were in would have been 40mph.
0:19:07 > 0:19:10- I did believe there I was doing quicker than 40. - THEY LAUGH
0:19:10 > 0:19:12Maybe not.
0:19:16 > 0:19:20So how much would one of these karts cost me if I was buying it?
0:19:20 > 0:19:22This kart here would cost between five and six grand.
0:19:29 > 0:19:31Well, I know you've won lots of trophies, boys,
0:19:31 > 0:19:35but you are holding the two that are maybe the dearest to your hearts.
0:19:35 > 0:19:37Carl, could you tell me what you got this one for?
0:19:37 > 0:19:41This is an MSA Gold Flag and you only get this if you win
0:19:41 > 0:19:44an MSA British Championship - junior or senior.
0:19:44 > 0:19:46And I won mine at a junior level.
0:19:46 > 0:19:48Jenson Button won one of these,
0:19:48 > 0:19:50David Coulthard won one of these.
0:19:50 > 0:19:53And Lewis Hamilton, well, he got a silver one.
0:19:56 > 0:19:58Adam, I see you got this one in 2010.
0:19:58 > 0:20:02It's the FIA CIK Trophy. This is the most important trophy to me
0:20:02 > 0:20:05because I came third in the Under-18 World Championship.
0:20:05 > 0:20:07It's a great honour for someone from this country -
0:20:07 > 0:20:10it's very small and we don't get much recognition,
0:20:10 > 0:20:13so I'm very proud of that there.
0:20:18 > 0:20:21So you don't see me ever coming up behind you
0:20:21 > 0:20:24in one of those big World Championship tracks, no?
0:20:33 > 0:20:35Over the last few weeks, storyteller Will Cromie
0:20:35 > 0:20:37and musician Gibson Young
0:20:37 > 0:20:40have taken us on a really enjoyable tour of the Ards.
0:20:40 > 0:20:43Their journey finishes this week in Ballywalter.
0:20:57 > 0:20:59You know yourself, Gibson, this is my home town
0:20:59 > 0:21:02and where you're born, that's where you belong.
0:21:02 > 0:21:04No matter where you go to, you belong to nowhere else.
0:21:04 > 0:21:07And we're just standing here beside the war memorial.
0:21:07 > 0:21:12Now that, as a war memorial, would be about the oldest of its kind in this country.
0:21:12 > 0:21:18That was built in 1925 and it means a lot to me when I come up to it
0:21:18 > 0:21:21because you'll see, up at the top there, that's my Uncle Davie.
0:21:21 > 0:21:25Now obviously I don't remember him. He was killed in 1917.
0:21:25 > 0:21:28But on the side wall there, for the Second World War,
0:21:28 > 0:21:31my brother David, there.
0:21:31 > 0:21:33Then you'd Harry, a cousin,
0:21:33 > 0:21:35and Bobby, who'd have been a second-cousin.
0:21:35 > 0:21:38That's the three of them up there in the Second World War.
0:21:38 > 0:21:41There are four of them and three of them are related to you?
0:21:41 > 0:21:44- Directly related to me.- Boyso?
0:21:44 > 0:21:47You remember your brother David going away to the sea?
0:21:47 > 0:21:49I do. I just mind him when I was a wee fellow.
0:21:49 > 0:21:53I mind him with the navy uniform on when he went away down the hill
0:21:53 > 0:21:54and the white hat, you know?
0:21:54 > 0:21:56The Royal Navy?
0:21:56 > 0:21:58The Royal Navy. He took the hat off and he waved
0:21:58 > 0:22:01and shouted back to the family as he went away.
0:22:01 > 0:22:04That was it - he was never seen again.
0:22:04 > 0:22:07Every Remembrance Sunday, I would come down and put a wreath down,
0:22:07 > 0:22:10and go along with the boys there.
0:22:10 > 0:22:12But that's what it's for, to me.
0:22:27 > 0:22:29This is a treacherous bit of water here.
0:22:29 > 0:22:33There were literally hundreds of shipwrecks here over the years,
0:22:33 > 0:22:38especially out there. The yin that they call Skulmartin, just over my shoulder.
0:22:38 > 0:22:41That's it there, with the perch on it.
0:22:41 > 0:22:44From here it looks like a big red pole with a triangle on the top.
0:22:44 > 0:22:49- Yes.- That was for putting the boys on it if anybody was shipwrecked?
0:22:49 > 0:22:52That was put up there specifically for that purpose.
0:22:52 > 0:22:55You went in through the stepladder onto the platform
0:22:55 > 0:23:00and it was said then it would have held about 20 folks standing up.
0:23:00 > 0:23:02So that meant the boat was wrecked,
0:23:02 > 0:23:08but if they could make that rock, there was a good chance they'd be saved.
0:23:08 > 0:23:11So the harbour was built in 1851
0:23:11 > 0:23:14so the perch had to be in around that time.
0:23:19 > 0:23:21All the other villages had fishermen
0:23:21 > 0:23:23but down here we had the "dully men".
0:23:23 > 0:23:27They were known as that because they gathered the dulse, an edible seaweed.
0:23:27 > 0:23:31And they would have went away out in their wee boats along there,
0:23:31 > 0:23:34out into the rocks, round the back, gathering it in.
0:23:34 > 0:23:37They brought it in here and then carried it up in bags
0:23:37 > 0:23:41and they always spread it on the shingle beach because the wind got in below it,
0:23:41 > 0:23:43and got it perfectly dry.
0:23:43 > 0:23:47They put it into big bales and then it was taken away.
0:23:47 > 0:23:49Transport came and took it away to Belfast.
0:23:49 > 0:23:53They took it to Belfast and then they would have gone up and the boy paid them.
0:23:53 > 0:23:57It was weighed and laid out. "There's your money," and back home.
0:23:57 > 0:23:59Of course, they got on the bus to come home.
0:23:59 > 0:24:03A lot of the money never came home because they stopped in Newtown,
0:24:03 > 0:24:06went into the pub and that was the end of them eating!
0:24:15 > 0:24:17When I look back on it, Gibson,
0:24:17 > 0:24:20you see the wee bit of green? There's an old van on it.
0:24:20 > 0:24:23Those were our what they would have called "half-loft houses".
0:24:23 > 0:24:26The dry toilet was up the yard.
0:24:26 > 0:24:28But then it was easy building.
0:24:28 > 0:24:32They backed onto one another to save building a wall between them.
0:24:32 > 0:24:35The folk could have had a conversation, and you would have been up...
0:24:35 > 0:24:38They called it a "vennel", the wee lane down the back.
0:24:38 > 0:24:43You would have been walking along and the next thing you would have heard a voice from the toilet!
0:24:43 > 0:24:46STRAINING: "Is that you, Bella?"
0:24:46 > 0:24:49And of course, Bella would say, "Aye, it's me!"
0:24:49 > 0:24:54And she'd say, "What's that...m-m-music there?"
0:24:55 > 0:24:58"The wee lass is learning... the piano."
0:24:58 > 0:25:03"Oh, what's that she's playing?"
0:25:03 > 0:25:07"It's... Oh, it's..." What did she say? "..Tchaikovsky."
0:25:08 > 0:25:11And the neighbour said, "Boy, that's a hard bit."
0:25:29 > 0:25:36Well, to finish this week's Santer, Eddi Reader sings us out with the Burns song Winter It Is Past.
0:25:36 > 0:25:37See you next time.
0:25:39 > 0:25:42# Oh, the winter, it is past
0:25:44 > 0:25:48# And the summer's come at last
0:25:48 > 0:25:55# And the small birds are singing in the trees
0:25:56 > 0:26:00# Their little hearts are glad
0:26:00 > 0:26:04# Oh, but I am very sad
0:26:04 > 0:26:12# For my true love is parted from me
0:26:13 > 0:26:17# All you who are in love
0:26:17 > 0:26:21# And cannot it remove
0:26:23 > 0:26:28# I pity all the pain that you endure
0:26:30 > 0:26:34# For experience lets me know
0:26:34 > 0:26:38# That your hearts are full of woe
0:26:38 > 0:26:45# And it's a woe that no mortal can cure
0:26:46 > 0:26:51# My love is like the sun
0:26:51 > 0:26:56# In the firmament does run
0:26:56 > 0:27:01# Is ever constant and true
0:27:04 > 0:27:08# But his is like the moon
0:27:08 > 0:27:12# Aye, it wanders up and doon
0:27:12 > 0:27:22# And is every month changing anew
0:27:36 > 0:27:38SHE HARMONISES
0:27:54 > 0:27:59# Oh, the winter, it is past
0:27:59 > 0:28:04# And the summer's come at last
0:28:04 > 0:28:12# And the small birds start singing in the trees
0:28:12 > 0:28:15# Their little hearts are glad
0:28:16 > 0:28:21# Oh, but I am very sad
0:28:21 > 0:28:27# For my true love is far away from me
0:28:29 > 0:28:33# Their little hearts are blessed
0:28:33 > 0:28:38# Aye, their little lives at rest
0:28:38 > 0:28:45# But my true love is parted from me
0:28:46 > 0:28:53# Oh, the winter, it is past. #
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