0:00:02 > 0:00:03Hello, there, and welcome once again to Santer.
0:00:08 > 0:00:12On this programme, Leslie Morrow takes up with Dean McAuley
0:00:12 > 0:00:14at the sheepdog trials in Cairncastle...
0:00:14 > 0:00:16'This is Joe, great hill dog.'
0:00:16 > 0:00:19So, you stick with that, if you get a dog that you like, that's...
0:00:19 > 0:00:22- If you get a dog that you like, it's half the battle.- Aye.
0:00:22 > 0:00:24..Paula McIntyre fries up a good Ulster-Scots feed
0:00:24 > 0:00:25in a Ballymoney chip shop...
0:00:25 > 0:00:28'Need to let it to cool a minute or two'
0:00:28 > 0:00:31because it would just burn the whole bake off you!
0:00:31 > 0:00:35..Frank McLernon tells us all about a memory he has had from he was a wean...
0:00:35 > 0:00:37"Och," she said, "I'll tell you, son,"
0:00:37 > 0:00:40she says, "it's the living death."
0:00:40 > 0:00:42Well, that scared the wits out of me!
0:00:42 > 0:00:45..and Mark Wilson rounds off his musical journey across Scotland
0:00:45 > 0:00:47in Campbeltown.
0:00:47 > 0:00:51It's obvious that the music and the instruments HAVE travelled back and forwards
0:00:51 > 0:00:54across that little bit of water for hundreds of years.
0:01:01 > 0:01:05But afore all that, here's Eddi Reader with yin of my favourites,
0:01:05 > 0:01:07Wild Mountain Side.
0:01:11 > 0:01:16# Beauty is within grasp
0:01:16 > 0:01:20# Hear the Highlands call
0:01:20 > 0:01:28# The last mile is upon us I'll carry you if you fall
0:01:28 > 0:01:37# I know the armour's heavy now I know the heart's inside
0:01:37 > 0:01:46# It's beautiful, let's go over The wild mountain side
0:01:46 > 0:01:54# Snow is falling all over Out of clear blue skies
0:01:54 > 0:02:03# Crow is flying high over You and I are going to wander
0:02:03 > 0:02:11# High up where the air is rare Wild horses ride
0:02:11 > 0:02:19# It's beautiful just roamin' The wild mountain side
0:02:19 > 0:02:27# Wild and free we'll roam
0:02:28 > 0:02:35# Only a mile to go
0:02:55 > 0:03:05# Aaaa-ooooooo-aaaaa-oooooo
0:03:11 > 0:03:19# Wild and free we'll roam
0:03:19 > 0:03:28# Only a mile to go
0:03:28 > 0:03:36# Beauty is within grasp Hear the Highlands call
0:03:36 > 0:03:40# The last mile is upon us
0:03:40 > 0:03:44# I'll carry you if you fall
0:03:44 > 0:03:54# I know the armour's heavy now I know the heart inside
0:03:54 > 0:04:01# It's beautiful just over The wild mountain side
0:04:01 > 0:04:12# It's beautiful, let's go over The wild mountain side
0:04:16 > 0:04:24# Let's go over
0:04:24 > 0:04:30# Ooooooh. #
0:04:33 > 0:04:34Boys, I'm quare ready for a feed
0:04:34 > 0:04:37and I know, in the town, the chip shop to go to,
0:04:37 > 0:04:39the yin where Sharon Brownlow is.
0:04:39 > 0:04:40Would you like salt and vinegar? Right.
0:04:40 > 0:04:42I wonder if Paula McIntyre's anywhere about?
0:04:42 > 0:04:45Paula, this would be a bit of a first for you in a chip shop?
0:04:45 > 0:04:47- Aye but this is great, I love this. - What are you making?
0:04:47 > 0:04:49I'm going to make, it's...
0:04:49 > 0:04:52We've got coalie here and monkfish, Anne.
0:04:52 > 0:04:53- I know you like fish, so...- I do.
0:04:53 > 0:04:55Coalie...and what I'm going to do is bread them,
0:04:55 > 0:04:58you know, like you do for breaded plaice, or whatever.
0:04:58 > 0:05:01These are Veda crumbs, I'm sure you don't use these here, do you?
0:05:01 > 0:05:04- No, we do not, they'd be a bit black looking! - THEY LAUGH
0:05:04 > 0:05:06And Veda is very Ulster-Scots -
0:05:06 > 0:05:09it was invented in Scotland and they only make it here.
0:05:09 > 0:05:12- Used to make it everywhere, all over the UK.- Aye, it would do rightly.
0:05:12 > 0:05:15Do you like Veda and cheese on a Sunday evening?
0:05:15 > 0:05:17It's all right now and again, I would eat it if I was stuck.
0:05:17 > 0:05:19Aye, well, you can try this here.
0:05:19 > 0:05:22I would eat most things, that's why I'm the size I am!
0:05:22 > 0:05:24THEY LAUGH
0:05:24 > 0:05:26You're going at that big a rate, Paula.
0:05:26 > 0:05:28Ah, but I'm not really, I'm not really.
0:05:28 > 0:05:33She's looking for a job in here too. I'll maybe lose mine!
0:05:33 > 0:05:36I'll tell you what, I used to work here, Sharon, this is where I had my first job.
0:05:36 > 0:05:40- Aye, this was The Starfish then. - Right? Hey, that's some time ago -
0:05:40 > 0:05:43I was only a wean in the pram then, so I was!
0:05:43 > 0:05:45That's ready to go now.
0:05:46 > 0:05:48Easy now, in case you burn yourself.
0:05:51 > 0:05:53Dinnae stir the things cos see if you stir it,
0:05:53 > 0:05:55you hae to wait till they come up to the top
0:05:55 > 0:05:58cos if you dinnae, it would take the breadcrumbs aff it.
0:05:58 > 0:06:01You want it up here, up on the thing here, now?
0:06:01 > 0:06:04This has been my life's ambition, honestly, to do this.
0:06:04 > 0:06:07You're brave and quick at learning, like.
0:06:08 > 0:06:10Anne, that's the wild garlic dressing.
0:06:10 > 0:06:12Need to leave it to cool a minute or two
0:06:12 > 0:06:15because it would just burn the whole bake off you!
0:06:15 > 0:06:17Gorgeous.
0:06:17 > 0:06:19I think the breadcrumbs are nice, aren't they?
0:06:19 > 0:06:21- Sure everybody likes Veda, don't they, too?- It's nice.
0:06:21 > 0:06:23It's nice, so it is.
0:06:23 > 0:06:27- Would you like salt and vinegar, Tristan?- Aye, I wouldn't mind.
0:06:27 > 0:06:32- Oh, aye, Anne! - There you go, Tristan!
0:06:32 > 0:06:34So, what else can we deep fry?
0:06:34 > 0:06:36Well, Sharon was mentioning the Mars Bars,
0:06:36 > 0:06:39but we'll do a slightly healthier version with apples,
0:06:39 > 0:06:40like apple fritters.
0:06:40 > 0:06:44I'm going to put some oats cos that's very Ulster-Scots
0:06:44 > 0:06:47and gives it a nice wee, sort of, texture as well.
0:06:47 > 0:06:50- So, in here I've flour and just a wee pinch of baking soda.- Right.
0:06:50 > 0:06:53- I'll heap it in, whisk that round there, Anne.- Right.
0:06:53 > 0:06:56- Keep whisking then. - So you're putting cider in it?
0:06:56 > 0:07:00- Uh-huh.- Right.- And that sort of gives you a light batter, OK?
0:07:00 > 0:07:03- ANNE LAUGHS - Try and keep it in the bowl! - I'm trying to.
0:07:03 > 0:07:05See pouring and stirring at the same time?
0:07:05 > 0:07:07That couldnae be on.
0:07:07 > 0:07:11Just tap that off, Anne, and I'm just going to stir the oats in.
0:07:13 > 0:07:17So there's stirring and beating with this batter carry-on.
0:07:17 > 0:07:18And that's it, that's lovely.
0:07:18 > 0:07:21Just let that rest just for a second, then, OK.
0:07:21 > 0:07:22I must say...
0:07:22 > 0:07:25- that smells lovely.- Lovely, aye, yes.
0:07:25 > 0:07:29- And then just cut through the apple, Sharon.- Were ye up raiding the apple trees whenever you got that?
0:07:29 > 0:07:33- Oh, yes, absolutely, aye! - THEY LAUGH
0:07:33 > 0:07:37And then all you do is take a bit of the flour,
0:07:37 > 0:07:40just regular flour, all right.
0:07:40 > 0:07:42OK, so, we'll just shake that.
0:07:42 > 0:07:44I'll just throw them into the batter, look.
0:07:48 > 0:07:50Just give that a good old stir-round.
0:07:50 > 0:07:53Then these go into the deep fat fryer.
0:07:53 > 0:07:56Just drop them in nice and easy in case you roast yourself.
0:07:57 > 0:08:02- That's it, you're catching on! - Look at that there.- I tell you.
0:08:02 > 0:08:05- Aye, they're lovely, aren't they? - See if the old teaching goes for me,
0:08:05 > 0:08:09- I'll be down here, Sharon, taking your job!- Oh, aye!
0:08:09 > 0:08:11Your oil's lovely and clean, isn't it? Beautiful.
0:08:11 > 0:08:15- Aye, that's changed every day and that.- That's the key, isn't it? - It is certainly.
0:08:15 > 0:08:17That's what makes a good chip shop, isn't it? Good clean oil.
0:08:17 > 0:08:20- You know, you can tell, you can tell by the...- Aye.
0:08:20 > 0:08:24- And what are you doing next, Paula? - I'm just, I'm going to just a wee sprinkle of just cinnamon sugar
0:08:24 > 0:08:28and then we'll cut it up and let everybody try it.
0:08:28 > 0:08:32OK, so it's nice and soft, Anne, it's still quite hot, there.
0:08:32 > 0:08:36- And what I've got here is clotted cream...- Lovely.
0:08:36 > 0:08:39..just with a wee bit of cinnamon just thrown in. So, there you are.
0:08:39 > 0:08:42You know what they say? You have to be bad sometimes!
0:08:44 > 0:08:46Mmmm, gorgeous.
0:08:46 > 0:08:48- Nice?- Aye.
0:08:48 > 0:08:50- Nice?- It's nice, aye. - Taste the cinnamon in it?- Aye.
0:08:50 > 0:08:53OK, Sharon, last bit's for you.
0:08:55 > 0:08:58- Lovely.- It's like a healthy doughnut, isn't it?
0:09:01 > 0:09:05I'm sure most of you aw has a memory that has stuck in your head fae when you were weans?
0:09:05 > 0:09:07For Dervock man, Frank McLernon,
0:09:07 > 0:09:10his was the day he had a wee jouk into a gathering in the Orange Hall.
0:09:11 > 0:09:15'I remember when we were growing up as weans, every now and again,
0:09:15 > 0:09:19'either in the Orange Hall, or some of the church halls,'
0:09:19 > 0:09:20there was a do on.
0:09:22 > 0:09:26And folk were bringing sandwiches and bread and...
0:09:26 > 0:09:30all sorts of baked fancy goods, I suppose, that they had then.
0:09:31 > 0:09:35And you'd ask, "What's this for?"
0:09:35 > 0:09:37"Oh, it's somebody's farewell do."
0:09:37 > 0:09:41Well, as a wean I suppose you just nodded your head and said, "Aye,"
0:09:41 > 0:09:45and of course whenever your mother and father and them was away to these dos,
0:09:45 > 0:09:47that gien you a wee bit of free time to get oot
0:09:47 > 0:09:50that you werenae allowed otherwise.
0:09:50 > 0:09:53And I mind yon nacht there was a do in the Orange Hall
0:09:53 > 0:09:56and we went all up
0:09:56 > 0:09:58and they were slipping oot and down to George Callan's pub
0:09:58 > 0:10:01and you'd hae waited till somebody came oot
0:10:01 > 0:10:02and then you'd hae caught the door
0:10:02 > 0:10:05and you'd have peeped in to see what was going on.
0:10:05 > 0:10:08And the whole hall was done with buntings
0:10:08 > 0:10:09and there was folk all dressed
0:10:09 > 0:10:12and there were folk sitting at a table with a book.
0:10:12 > 0:10:15And everybody was gay and happy
0:10:15 > 0:10:17and there was a taste of drink going, illicitly.
0:10:17 > 0:10:20No-one's supposed to drink in them halls, but...
0:10:20 > 0:10:21they'd drink in anyway.
0:10:21 > 0:10:23All of a sudden...
0:10:23 > 0:10:27the whole place just went quiet...
0:10:27 > 0:10:33and there was this yin here and this woman had her handkerchief out and she was snuffling
0:10:33 > 0:10:38and folk were greeting and comforting another and hug another
0:10:38 > 0:10:40and the Minister, he gien tae himself, and he got up
0:10:40 > 0:10:44and he said prayers and wished them bon voyage, whatever that meant...
0:10:44 > 0:10:47for I surely hadn't a clue at that age.
0:10:47 > 0:10:52And I mind yin time I asked the question and me granny was there...
0:10:52 > 0:10:54and she put her hand on my shoulder,
0:10:54 > 0:10:56her wee old bony hand, and she says,
0:10:56 > 0:10:59"Och,' she said, "I'll tell you, son,"
0:10:59 > 0:11:02she says, "It's the living death".
0:11:02 > 0:11:04Well that scared the wits out of me!
0:11:05 > 0:11:08So I started to think more about it as I got older
0:11:08 > 0:11:10and you know, it's true.
0:11:11 > 0:11:15Loads and loads of families were broke up.
0:11:15 > 0:11:19They went to the Americas, they went to Australia, South Africa, Canada.
0:11:19 > 0:11:23You couldnae mourn for them, for they werenae dead...
0:11:23 > 0:11:26but they were away and there were nae way back.
0:11:26 > 0:11:30And it was then I started to understand
0:11:30 > 0:11:32what they meant by, "The living death".
0:11:32 > 0:11:36I often wondered...what happened to a lot of them.
0:11:37 > 0:11:40Oh, I know every now and again you hear about the odd one that
0:11:40 > 0:11:45made themselves a fortune and became millionaires,
0:11:45 > 0:11:48but, hey, they were few and far between.
0:11:48 > 0:11:51And, sure, the same thing's happening now.
0:11:51 > 0:11:54Young yins are leaving and going here and going there,
0:11:54 > 0:11:57but at least, nae odds where they go,
0:11:57 > 0:12:00with the world being a whole lot wee-er,
0:12:00 > 0:12:01they can always get home again.
0:12:01 > 0:12:07You know there's sometimes the weans and other yins will say to me,
0:12:07 > 0:12:10"Frank, you spend far too much time thinking of past things,"
0:12:10 > 0:12:12but my granny always told me,
0:12:12 > 0:12:17"You see, if you dinnae remember what happened
0:12:17 > 0:12:20"and if you don't remember the history,
0:12:20 > 0:12:24"it has a wild nasty habit of coming up behind you and biting you
0:12:24 > 0:12:28"cos history always repeats itself and it always will."
0:12:32 > 0:12:35Well, all through this series, we have been following Mark Wilson
0:12:35 > 0:12:38on his musical journey across Scotland.
0:12:38 > 0:12:39His journey ends this week
0:12:39 > 0:12:41as he gets the length of the Mull of Kintyre.
0:12:57 > 0:13:00This has been a great musical journey,
0:13:00 > 0:13:02but unfortunately now I'm on the last leg of it.
0:13:02 > 0:13:05Having started in Carlisle,
0:13:05 > 0:13:08I went through the border region to Portpatrick and then up to Dunoon.
0:13:08 > 0:13:12I'm now travelling south, down the Mull of Kintyre to Campbeltown.
0:13:18 > 0:13:21I've now arrived here on the very tip of the Mull of Kintyre
0:13:21 > 0:13:23and you don't need me to tell you
0:13:23 > 0:13:26that one of the most famous songs ever written and recorded
0:13:26 > 0:13:29was a song of that very name by Sir Paul McCartney,
0:13:29 > 0:13:31but what you probably don't know
0:13:31 > 0:13:34is that the pipes and drums who played on that recording
0:13:34 > 0:13:38was the pipe band from this very town, Campbeltown Pipe Band.
0:13:38 > 0:13:42On a personal level, that brings back very fond memories for me.
0:13:42 > 0:13:44That was the first record that I ever bought
0:13:44 > 0:13:48and jammed along to as a young boy,
0:13:48 > 0:13:53but there's a more ancient musical connection between this part of Scotland and Ulster
0:13:53 > 0:13:56and that's in the style and the playing of the fiddle.
0:14:32 > 0:14:33Archie McAllister,
0:14:33 > 0:14:37you're one of the top fiddle players in the world of Scottish music.
0:14:37 > 0:14:42Now you grew up and were raised here in this very town of Campbeltown.
0:14:42 > 0:14:46'I live just, sort of, 20 miles across from Ireland.'
0:14:46 > 0:14:50We've definitely had an influence from the Irish playing,
0:14:50 > 0:14:53as well as the Irish have had an influence from us as well,
0:14:53 > 0:14:56but we are aware of that
0:14:56 > 0:15:01and the more we play in, sort of, folk bands here in Campbeltown,
0:15:01 > 0:15:04I was getting more and more into the, kind of, Irish scene,
0:15:04 > 0:15:07as well as other influences, like Shetland or whatever.
0:15:17 > 0:15:19Now people think, "Oh, fiddle playing's fiddle playing,"
0:15:19 > 0:15:22- but there's different styles basically all over the world.- Yes.
0:15:22 > 0:15:25And even in Scotland there's a slightly different style
0:15:25 > 0:15:27between the west coast and the east coast.
0:15:27 > 0:15:29I know you've studied and learnt within the east coast style,
0:15:29 > 0:15:33but, at heart, you're a west coast and Lowlands fiddle style player.
0:15:33 > 0:15:36Oh most definitely, aye, definitely.
0:15:36 > 0:15:39'It stems from the piping tradition.
0:15:39 > 0:15:43'In piping, you know, they use grace notes
0:15:43 > 0:15:47'and we sort of try and imitate what the pipes do,'
0:15:47 > 0:15:51you know, with grace notes, you know, on the fiddle.
0:15:51 > 0:15:55Can you give us a wee demonstration of that, Archie?
0:16:11 > 0:16:14Yeah, I could hear at the end, you know, there's the little grace notes coming in
0:16:14 > 0:16:18to help make those notes stand out and be defined a little bit more.
0:16:18 > 0:16:20You can do it with your fingers
0:16:20 > 0:16:23or you can do it with the triplet on the bow.
0:16:23 > 0:16:26But you find no problem in playing the fiddle along with the pipes?
0:16:26 > 0:16:29Especially here on the west coast because they're the same style?
0:16:29 > 0:16:31Not at all.
0:16:31 > 0:16:34As long as it's mic'd up with the pipes, you know?
0:16:34 > 0:16:35They're that blooming loud!
0:16:50 > 0:16:53'Those styles on the west coast of Scotland and the north of Ireland
0:16:53 > 0:16:57- 'are very, very closely related and very similar.- That's right, yes.'
0:16:57 > 0:17:02Even in Antrim as well, you know, it's very closely related, the style, you know,
0:17:02 > 0:17:07but there is a big difference, you know, like in ornamentation
0:17:07 > 0:17:10on the left hand of the fiddle,
0:17:10 > 0:17:13where in Scottish music from the north-east,
0:17:13 > 0:17:14it's a lot of work on the bow.
0:17:38 > 0:17:40And where's that style from, Archie?
0:17:40 > 0:17:43That's, er, north-east,
0:17:43 > 0:17:45well, it's my take on the north-east style.
0:17:45 > 0:17:46In the north, they'll probably say,
0:17:46 > 0:17:48"That's a west coaster playing north-east!"
0:17:59 > 0:18:03'Thanks for letting me have a wee tune with yourselves.
0:18:03 > 0:18:06'I found it really, really easy and a pleasure playing along with yourself'
0:18:06 > 0:18:10and your brother, Alec. Two great, great musicians that, er,
0:18:10 > 0:18:13yeah, I think you're keeping the Scottish traditional music
0:18:13 > 0:18:15alive here in this part of Scotland
0:18:15 > 0:18:20- and that's helping keep it alive over in Ulster as well, too.- Thank you.
0:18:28 > 0:18:32I've now come to the end of my musical journey through Scotland,
0:18:32 > 0:18:34one in which I have felt a personal connection,
0:18:34 > 0:18:38both historically and culturally along every mile that I've travelled
0:18:38 > 0:18:42because my Lawson and Wallace and Wilson ancestry
0:18:42 > 0:18:45is all from this part of Scotland.
0:18:45 > 0:18:47Although, on a misty day like today,
0:18:47 > 0:18:50it's hard to see across that little bit of the North Channel to Ulster,
0:18:50 > 0:18:53it's obvious that the music and the instruments
0:18:53 > 0:18:58HAVE travelled back and forwards across that little bit of water for hundreds of years...
0:18:58 > 0:19:00and long may it continue to do so.
0:19:08 > 0:19:12'Now then, do you know the difference in a bake and a neb?
0:19:12 > 0:19:16'Nae better pair to ask than Liam Logan and Gary Blair.'
0:19:16 > 0:19:20Of course, Gary, the Ulster-Scots has a whole different way
0:19:20 > 0:19:21of describing body parts.
0:19:21 > 0:19:25- That they hae.- Starting, maybe, with your head.- Right.
0:19:25 > 0:19:29And when you were younger, did you ever get a slap in the ear?
0:19:29 > 0:19:32Never a slap in the ear, as often as a, "Clash in the lugs".
0:19:32 > 0:19:35- Did that happen to you often? - As you can tell, it did, aye!
0:19:35 > 0:19:39- Out front is your neb. - Aye, that's your nose, there.
0:19:39 > 0:19:41- And down below your nose is your mooth.- That's right.
0:19:41 > 0:19:44If somebody wanted to tell you to keep quiet,
0:19:44 > 0:19:49- they maybe would have said, "Shut yer gub".- That's right, aye.
0:19:49 > 0:19:52But if they were more polite, they'd have different ways of doing it.
0:19:52 > 0:19:55Aye, or my Granda had a great habit of saying, "Houl yer tongue,"
0:19:55 > 0:19:59and whenever my uncle's grand-daughter came over from England to stay with us,
0:19:59 > 0:20:04and he gien that roar one day, "Would ye houl yer tongue," they were lost, dear love her.
0:20:04 > 0:20:07Like that, there. Not knowing how long to do it for!
0:20:07 > 0:20:09Of course you would also say, "Houl yer wheesht."
0:20:09 > 0:20:11"Houl yer wheesht," aye, that's right.
0:20:11 > 0:20:15It must be difficult if you're coming in from an outsider's point of view.
0:20:15 > 0:20:20Say if you were a doctor and a patient came in with an Ulster-Scots tongue in their head.
0:20:20 > 0:20:23Aye, it wouldn't be easy, I would say all the Latin they hae learnt
0:20:23 > 0:20:26and all the medical journals that they read, they'll not find a cure
0:20:26 > 0:20:29for a "Razor sore thrapple," or "A pair a sore een."
0:20:29 > 0:20:31- Which would be sore eyes. - It would be.
0:20:31 > 0:20:34The other thing - if you were dealing with somebody that was very able,
0:20:34 > 0:20:38somebody that was very shrewd, you would say,
0:20:38 > 0:20:40"He would take the eye out of your head
0:20:40 > 0:20:43"and tell you you were better looking without it!"
0:20:43 > 0:20:46- Aye, did you ever do that? - Not me, Gary, I'm a decent fella.
0:20:46 > 0:20:49I would say you maybe hae a collection of een in the house,
0:20:49 > 0:20:50I would say you hae!
0:20:55 > 0:20:56WHISTLING
0:21:01 > 0:21:04'Dean McAuley has a powerful good relationship with his twa dogs
0:21:04 > 0:21:08'and they enter competitions baith at home and abroad.
0:21:08 > 0:21:10'Leslie Morrow caught up with Dean
0:21:10 > 0:21:13'at the sheepdog trials in Cairncastle.'
0:21:13 > 0:21:15Ah, ah, ah, ah, out! Ah, ah, ah!
0:21:15 > 0:21:17Are you happy enough with that run yourself?
0:21:17 > 0:21:19If I'd got the first gate, I'd be happier,
0:21:19 > 0:21:20but I was happy enough to get finished.
0:21:20 > 0:21:22They penned up well, there.
0:21:22 > 0:21:24Aye, they went in quick and shed quick.
0:21:24 > 0:21:27Good start, good finish,
0:21:27 > 0:21:29- but a bit in between there was... - Let me down a bit.- Aye.
0:21:29 > 0:21:31HE WHISTLES AND SHOUTS
0:21:39 > 0:21:42This here's Jim, he's coming six years old.
0:21:42 > 0:21:44I've had success with him.
0:21:44 > 0:21:48I run One Man and His Dog with him running and Young Handlers in Wales.
0:21:48 > 0:21:50I won one with him there two weeks ago.
0:21:50 > 0:21:53- Jim's very keen now. - Very keen, aye?
0:21:53 > 0:21:57- He's not even lifting his eyes off the sheep, there, at the minute. - Stay, stay.
0:21:59 > 0:22:01This dog here, this is Joe.
0:22:01 > 0:22:03He was about two year old when I got him
0:22:03 > 0:22:05and he wasn't doing an awful lot
0:22:05 > 0:22:08and then I broke him and then he settled.
0:22:08 > 0:22:09He's turned into a good dog,
0:22:09 > 0:22:14probably he's my, the best I have, probably the one that I won't sell.
0:22:14 > 0:22:17Aye, you stick with that, if you get a dog that you like, that's...
0:22:17 > 0:22:20- If you get a dog that you like, it's half the battle.- Aye.
0:22:26 > 0:22:29- You'll hae a great relationship with the two dogs then?- Aye.
0:22:29 > 0:22:33Whenever you're out with them every day, you get, you bond to them.
0:22:33 > 0:22:34HE WHISTLES
0:22:37 > 0:22:39Some of the commands there, you're whistling and you shout at them,
0:22:39 > 0:22:42but tell me, go through some of the calls there.
0:22:42 > 0:22:45Jim's, to the left, is, back out, and it's...
0:22:45 > 0:22:46HE WHISTLES
0:22:46 > 0:22:51For a wee, just a wee right, a small one, not fast, it's just...
0:22:51 > 0:22:52HE WHISTLES
0:22:52 > 0:22:54- And for a right one, it's... - HE WHISTLES
0:22:54 > 0:22:57- ..for a big one.- And that's for Joe?
0:22:57 > 0:23:01- Joe's left's, get by, and his is... - HE WHISTLES
0:23:01 > 0:23:04- And his stop is... - HE WHISTLES
0:23:04 > 0:23:07- His right's, away to me, and it's... - HE WHISTLES
0:23:10 > 0:23:13How long did it take you to learn to whistle like that?
0:23:13 > 0:23:17Oh, that was one day coming home from school I learnt that.
0:23:17 > 0:23:20- Yin day coming home fae school? - One day coming home from school.
0:23:20 > 0:23:22- All in yin day you learnt how to whistle?- I learned how to.
0:23:22 > 0:23:25It wasnae sweet for a while, but I learnt how to do it.
0:23:26 > 0:23:30The Sheepdog Trials have been running at Cairncastle from 1936
0:23:30 > 0:23:34and even if they don't attract the crowds of folk they did years ago,
0:23:34 > 0:23:35there's them that wouldn't miss it.
0:23:35 > 0:23:39What do you think of the quality of stuff there today?
0:23:39 > 0:23:41Oh, real top class, that, today. It's going well, isn't it?
0:23:41 > 0:23:44Those sheep know fine rightly that dog's controlling them.
0:23:44 > 0:23:46It's interesting to see the dog operating.
0:23:46 > 0:23:50A whistle and it drops and a shout and it gets up and...
0:23:50 > 0:23:52To me, it's just yaldering and whistling,
0:23:52 > 0:23:54but the dog knows what it's about.
0:23:54 > 0:23:57- You'd think there'd be more women into...- There are a lot of women.
0:23:57 > 0:24:00- Is there a lot of women? - Aye, very much.
0:24:00 > 0:24:03Cos they like roaring and shouting and whistling
0:24:03 > 0:24:06and getting you to obey and stuff!
0:24:10 > 0:24:13Do you see much of a change in trialling over the years?
0:24:13 > 0:24:17Oh big changes, like men turned out complete families
0:24:17 > 0:24:20and men were there dressed in their Sunday best
0:24:20 > 0:24:22with their dark suits and their brown boots, polished up.
0:24:22 > 0:24:26Years ago when they were trialling? There with the wife and weans
0:24:26 > 0:24:29- and it was a day out for the whole? - Oh, aye, collar and tie job, then.
0:24:29 > 0:24:31And what really made this trial
0:24:31 > 0:24:33- was that we'd very strong Scottish support.- Right.
0:24:33 > 0:24:36And that brought the Ulster men out too...
0:24:36 > 0:24:39- just to see the Scottish dogs.- Aye.
0:24:43 > 0:24:46He's going now onto a nice line to the first gate.
0:24:46 > 0:24:49- Straight line to the next set of gates?- Yeah.
0:24:50 > 0:24:54- No too much speed, just nice and...- Nice and steady, oh, aye.
0:24:54 > 0:24:56How many points have you to start?
0:24:56 > 0:24:59It's out of 100 points on the whole course.
0:24:59 > 0:25:02He came too far down to the left,
0:25:02 > 0:25:04wasted a couple of points coming off that
0:25:04 > 0:25:05and you hae nine minutes to do it,
0:25:05 > 0:25:09but you don't want them twisting wi' you, for it's wasting time that you might need to finish.
0:25:09 > 0:25:13It sounds easy, you know, when you say you just go through them gates
0:25:13 > 0:25:15in a straight line, fae there to the next point.
0:25:15 > 0:25:16- No, it's not easy.- Not easy.
0:25:24 > 0:25:27- Do you ever get frustrated with them? - You get them days, all right!
0:25:27 > 0:25:32- You get frustrated and do a lot of roaring and shouting at them?- Aye. - HE SHOUTS
0:25:32 > 0:25:36- They stand a fair bit of shouting at them. Would anybody else stick that?- I wouldn't have thought so.
0:25:40 > 0:25:43Well, sadly, that's near enough it from Santer,
0:25:43 > 0:25:45but dinnae worry, we'll be back in the spring.
0:25:45 > 0:25:48And during that series, Mark Wilson takes off on another musical journey
0:25:48 > 0:25:53fae Donegal across the Atlantic to Canada and into the States.
0:25:53 > 0:25:56Among the artists he'll be meeting there
0:25:56 > 0:25:59are the brilliant Madison Violet from Nova Scotia.
0:25:59 > 0:26:02And what better way to end the programme than them playing us out?
0:26:02 > 0:26:05See you early next year, cheerio!
0:26:05 > 0:26:11# No, it won't be easy But I'll bite my tongue
0:26:12 > 0:26:18# Give myself completely While the fight is still young
0:26:19 > 0:26:24# It's a premonition Of the things compelled to come
0:26:24 > 0:26:33# There ain't nothing I can do That ain't already been done
0:26:34 > 0:26:40# Stuck in love Stuck in love gone wrong
0:26:41 > 0:26:46# Stuck in love That cared more about the song
0:26:48 > 0:26:53# Stuck in love Stuck in love gone wrong
0:26:53 > 0:27:00# There ain't nothing left to sing That ain't already been sung
0:27:03 > 0:27:08# I remember the days when my heart felt fast asleep
0:27:10 > 0:27:15# I was dreaming of days when they held lovers in the keep
0:27:16 > 0:27:21# I was thinking of nights we would have walked to different beats
0:27:21 > 0:27:29# Ain't no promise I can make For crying through my teeth
0:27:31 > 0:27:38# Stuck in love, Stuck in love gone wrong
0:27:39 > 0:27:44# Stuck in love That cared more about the song
0:27:45 > 0:27:50# Stuck in love Stuck in love gone wrong
0:27:50 > 0:27:58# There ain't nothing left to sing That ain't already been sung
0:28:15 > 0:28:20# Stuck in love Stuck in love gone wrong
0:28:22 > 0:28:29# Stuck in love That cared more about the song
0:28:29 > 0:28:34# Stuck in love Stuck in love gone wrong
0:28:34 > 0:28:41# There ain't nothing left to sing That ain't already been sung. #
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