0:00:02 > 0:00:0713 years ago, BBC cameras filmed 22 families in south-east Wales
0:00:08 > 0:00:12as they approached the magical moment of birth.
0:00:14 > 0:00:16Breath, you can fill those lungs with air.
0:00:16 > 0:00:18Down you go!
0:00:19 > 0:00:22There were problematic pregnancies...
0:00:22 > 0:00:24Which day do you want to have your baby?
0:00:24 > 0:00:27Have her on Friday, I can go all day Saturday on this.
0:00:27 > 0:00:30..dramatic deliveries...
0:00:30 > 0:00:31Get it out!
0:00:31 > 0:00:35No, you pant it out. You don't push now, sweetheart. You don't push.
0:00:35 > 0:00:39..and life-saving special care.
0:00:39 > 0:00:41I don't know what you're going through.
0:00:41 > 0:00:46And I don't think any of the nursing staff have got a clue.
0:00:46 > 0:00:47OK? We don't.
0:00:47 > 0:00:51It was a new beginning for the parents to be.
0:00:51 > 0:00:55You did excellent. Well done.
0:00:55 > 0:00:59And, for some, it was to change their lives forever.
0:01:02 > 0:01:05Over a decade later and what has happened
0:01:05 > 0:01:08to these children who grew up in a new century?
0:01:11 > 0:01:14What has become of the Welsh Millennium Babies?
0:01:23 > 0:01:25This time on Welsh Millennium Babies,
0:01:25 > 0:01:29we catch up with two boys approaching their teenage years.
0:01:29 > 0:01:33I've got quite a few things I might like to be when I'm older.
0:01:33 > 0:01:36Such as a pilot, jet or commercial,
0:01:36 > 0:01:39a doctor - a surgeon or just a doctor,
0:01:39 > 0:01:43or working for the film or TV industry.
0:01:43 > 0:01:48It's the dream to have a son to equal the family balance out.
0:01:49 > 0:01:52I was Dad's dream.
0:01:52 > 0:01:56Just keep it at that now, I was your dream.
0:02:02 > 0:02:05It was in rural Tintern over 11 years ago
0:02:05 > 0:02:08that 29-year-old Tilly was pregnant with her second child.
0:02:08 > 0:02:10ULTRASOUND CRACKLES
0:02:10 > 0:02:13Ooh! What's that, Ellie?
0:02:13 > 0:02:16Is that Mummy's baby. It's kicking, too.
0:02:16 > 0:02:21Looking after Tilly's antenatal care was community midwife Rachel Fielding.
0:02:21 > 0:02:24Any worries or problems? Anything you want to ask?
0:02:24 > 0:02:26I got really hormonal over the weekend.
0:02:26 > 0:02:30- I was going to ask if that was normal at this stage.- In what way?
0:02:30 > 0:02:33I felt like every time someone said something
0:02:33 > 0:02:36that it was directed really against me and I took it really personally.
0:02:36 > 0:02:40Then I had to ring round all my family, apologising for being horrible to them.
0:02:40 > 0:02:44You know when you feel like you're going to burst into tears for no reason at all?
0:02:44 > 0:02:46I just think you do get a bit sensitive.
0:02:46 > 0:02:49Obviously the hormones do have that effect on you.
0:02:49 > 0:02:53Tilly and her husband of two years, Jamie,
0:02:53 > 0:02:57embraced the whole experience of childbirth and parenting.
0:02:57 > 0:03:02And this little piggy went wee, wee, wee, all the way home.
0:03:02 > 0:03:05As much as it puts you through the mill a bit,
0:03:05 > 0:03:08I still wouldn't miss it for the world.
0:03:08 > 0:03:10You've still got to be there, you have.
0:03:10 > 0:03:15You know, I'd recommend it to anybody, that they're right there
0:03:15 > 0:03:17at the moment, cut the cord and everything.
0:03:17 > 0:03:21Cos, if you don't, and you subsequently change your mind,
0:03:21 > 0:03:24there's no going back, is there? So you might as well do it the first time.
0:03:24 > 0:03:27I've had a bit of a reputation for being broody ever since school.
0:03:27 > 0:03:31I think most of my friends thought that I'd be a mum way before I was.
0:03:31 > 0:03:36But I knew I wanted to do heaps in the way of travelling, you know?
0:03:36 > 0:03:40All the things you want to get out of your system before I wanted to be a mum.
0:03:40 > 0:03:45So, I knew I'd do it one day, but everything had to be in place first.
0:03:46 > 0:03:49Six weeks later at the Royal Gwent Hospital...
0:03:49 > 0:03:52Hard work.
0:03:52 > 0:03:54Tilly was about to give birth.
0:03:54 > 0:03:56Can you pass me the water, please?
0:03:58 > 0:04:02Oh, that's lovely.
0:04:02 > 0:04:03Improvised fan.
0:04:07 > 0:04:10The baby's head's there, you can feel it if you want.
0:04:10 > 0:04:15There. I'm just going to feel inside, around the baby's neck.
0:04:16 > 0:04:19Are you going to let me loop this over, baby?
0:04:19 > 0:04:22Baby's got the cord round the neck, Tilly.
0:04:22 > 0:04:25Which is a little bit short.
0:04:28 > 0:04:30Down you come, keep pushing.
0:04:30 > 0:04:33Come back. Come back, Tilly.
0:04:33 > 0:04:35Look at this baby.
0:04:37 > 0:04:40That's it.
0:04:40 > 0:04:45- It is a lazy boy.- The proud parents named their baby boy Tom.
0:04:45 > 0:04:47It's a bit of an entrance, there.
0:04:52 > 0:04:55It's been 11 years since Tom's birth.
0:04:57 > 0:05:01And they are now a family of six, with Ellie and Tom being joined by
0:05:01 > 0:05:04younger brother William and sister Liberty.
0:05:13 > 0:05:16- Love you. See you later. Bye now. - Bye.
0:05:17 > 0:05:21Tilly and her family now live in rural Monmouthshire and,
0:05:21 > 0:05:24like most children in Tom's situation,
0:05:24 > 0:05:26getting to school can take some time.
0:05:30 > 0:05:33It's Saturday and we have to do Saturday school here.
0:05:33 > 0:05:37Which, even though I've been here for a while now,
0:05:37 > 0:05:39I'm still not used to it.
0:05:39 > 0:05:41Cos all my brothers and sisters,
0:05:41 > 0:05:43they don't have to get up on Saturdays.
0:05:43 > 0:05:45So it's quite frustrating.
0:05:45 > 0:05:48Luckily, it's only a half day on Saturday.
0:05:48 > 0:05:54Recently in maths we've been studying pi, the Greek symbol
0:05:54 > 0:05:56and...um...we've...
0:05:56 > 0:06:00At home, because I got so motivated in lessons,
0:06:00 > 0:06:04I decided to learn pi to as many digits as I can.
0:06:06 > 0:06:09So I now know it to 32 places.
0:06:09 > 0:06:12Shall I list them?
0:06:12 > 0:06:203.1415926535897932384626433832795.
0:06:22 > 0:06:24Rounded.
0:06:31 > 0:06:35Having four children to care for is a full time job.
0:06:37 > 0:06:39I have to cook, I have to feed you all.
0:06:39 > 0:06:41Hey! My little Welsh dragon.
0:06:43 > 0:06:48And Tilly has dedicated the last 13 years to motherhood.
0:06:48 > 0:06:53I don't think I could have had such a big family if my first child hadn't been...
0:06:53 > 0:06:55Wonderful!
0:06:55 > 0:06:57No, she's just
0:06:57 > 0:07:02always been brilliantly helpful, right from when Tom was born.
0:07:02 > 0:07:05And you know when you have a small baby
0:07:05 > 0:07:09and you've just been through that long, dark tunnel
0:07:09 > 0:07:12of months and months with no sleep?
0:07:12 > 0:07:16It's just intense. But because she was always around and helpful,
0:07:16 > 0:07:18we're quite a good team.
0:07:18 > 0:07:20And it's keeping going.
0:07:20 > 0:07:22She's 13 next week.
0:07:22 > 0:07:27So, I'm hoping... Obviously she's off doing her own thing a lot more,
0:07:27 > 0:07:30but we're still quite a good team, aren't we? Most of the time.
0:07:30 > 0:07:32Relatively. Yes, I think so.
0:07:37 > 0:07:39Over a decade ago in Newbridge,
0:07:39 > 0:07:42Roxanne was pregnant with her third child.
0:07:45 > 0:07:47# I met a little Irish girl... #
0:07:49 > 0:07:54Roxanne's first child Sammie had been born with Down's syndrome.
0:07:54 > 0:07:57I was only 24. It's something I didn't think about.
0:07:57 > 0:08:00It didn't register in my mind that I could have a child with Down's.
0:08:00 > 0:08:02You always think it happens to older mums.
0:08:02 > 0:08:06But every mum that I now who's had a child with Down's,
0:08:06 > 0:08:08the oldest one I know has been 31.
0:08:08 > 0:08:10You know, that I know of.
0:08:10 > 0:08:14All the others I know, we were all sort of early 20s, or even younger.
0:08:19 > 0:08:21Roxanne was offered an early Down's test
0:08:21 > 0:08:26to see if her unborn child was affected with the genetic condition.
0:08:26 > 0:08:29There's a nice little heartbeat, just in there.
0:08:31 > 0:08:33See me wipe it there? Just moving?
0:08:33 > 0:08:37Well away from the baby. Not even inside the pregnancy sack.
0:08:37 > 0:08:38- Good.- OK?
0:08:39 > 0:08:42Are we OK over here, then?
0:08:42 > 0:08:47It was an emotional surprise back in 1999 for sisters Sammie and Chelsea
0:08:47 > 0:08:50when their parents broke the news.
0:08:50 > 0:08:53Listen to me, Sam. Listen.
0:08:53 > 0:08:58Your mummy's been to the hospital for tests this week. Right?
0:08:58 > 0:09:02It's because Mummy's having a baby.
0:09:02 > 0:09:05Right? And you're going to have a little baby brother
0:09:05 > 0:09:07or a little baby sister in February next year.
0:09:07 > 0:09:09Can I have a baby brother?
0:09:09 > 0:09:12- You want a baby brother? - We've been talking about that.
0:09:12 > 0:09:15Yeah, you see? It's happening now. It's in my belly.
0:09:15 > 0:09:17They were testing my belly.
0:09:17 > 0:09:19Are you happy?
0:09:19 > 0:09:21Are you happy?
0:09:21 > 0:09:23- Yeah.- There we are, then.
0:09:23 > 0:09:26See? So, that's why we've had all these secrets.
0:09:26 > 0:09:30Because we didn't want to tell you until we knew everything was OK.
0:09:30 > 0:09:32But the man phoned today to say everything's OK.
0:09:32 > 0:09:34Oh, don't get all upset.
0:09:37 > 0:09:40Come on. You know why, don't you?
0:09:40 > 0:09:45We had to check that the baby didn't have Down's syndrome, like Sammie's got.
0:09:45 > 0:09:48That's all. And it hasn't. OK?
0:09:48 > 0:09:51Are you all right?
0:09:52 > 0:09:54Come on.
0:09:54 > 0:09:57Don't get all upset.
0:09:57 > 0:10:00Hey.
0:10:00 > 0:10:03Be happy, cos everything's OK.
0:10:03 > 0:10:04All right?
0:10:06 > 0:10:11Six months later, Roxanne went into labour at the Royal Gwent Hospital.
0:10:14 > 0:10:19Community Midwife Cathy Witcombe was on duty to deliver the baby.
0:10:19 > 0:10:22Come on, my love. Come on, you can do it.
0:10:22 > 0:10:26Go for it. And again, down hard.
0:10:26 > 0:10:27Go on, my lovely.
0:10:27 > 0:10:30Oh, it's coming beautifully now.
0:10:33 > 0:10:36There we go. Come on my little guy.
0:10:36 > 0:10:37Those are big shoulders.
0:10:37 > 0:10:39Rox, you've got a little boy!
0:10:39 > 0:10:41Look. Look!
0:10:41 > 0:10:42Look at his willy!
0:10:45 > 0:10:47Look at him,
0:10:47 > 0:10:50And Sammie got her wish, a baby brother.
0:10:50 > 0:10:55Joseph was the new addition to Michael and Roxanne's family.
0:11:04 > 0:11:08A decade later and the family are living in Abercarn.
0:11:08 > 0:11:14And Joseph not only has a loving mum and dad, but two doting elder sisters.
0:11:29 > 0:11:3211-year-old Joseph is the musical talent in the family
0:11:32 > 0:11:34and the trumpet is his passion.
0:11:36 > 0:11:38I haven't heard him.
0:11:38 > 0:11:41- You haven't heard him before? - No. Not until today.
0:11:41 > 0:11:42He's quite good.
0:11:42 > 0:11:44He's good.
0:11:45 > 0:11:47He don't get it from me.
0:11:54 > 0:11:55Well done, Joe.
0:11:57 > 0:12:01Performing is really fun.
0:12:01 > 0:12:04Scary to start with, but when you actually do it,
0:12:04 > 0:12:09it's very enjoyable. Yeah, I'm looking forward to doing that.
0:12:13 > 0:12:19As Joseph grew up, his older sisters Sammie and Chelsea were a guiding influence on his young life.
0:12:21 > 0:12:26But that has changed recently, as Chelsea has become a university student.
0:12:26 > 0:12:29Is it nice having your sister home from college?
0:12:29 > 0:12:31Yeah, it's really nice
0:12:31 > 0:12:34because we don't usually see her that much.
0:12:34 > 0:12:38I know she doesn't come home for that long,
0:12:38 > 0:12:41but it is nice when she's home.
0:12:41 > 0:12:43I enjoy uni a lot.
0:12:43 > 0:12:47But it's hard being away from home because it is quite a distance.
0:12:47 > 0:12:49I only speak to my mum and dad
0:12:49 > 0:12:53now and again. So it's hard. I don't speak to them very often.
0:12:53 > 0:12:55Do you wish you could see your sister more?
0:12:55 > 0:12:58- Yeah.- She's come up to uni with me, haven't you?
0:12:58 > 0:13:02- She had a night out in Aberystwyth with me.- Yeah.
0:13:02 > 0:13:04What did you do?
0:13:04 > 0:13:08- She got a little bit drunk, didn't you, Sam?- A little bit drunk, yeah.
0:13:08 > 0:13:10Because they're both older than me,
0:13:10 > 0:13:15if I get worried about something that they've done before,
0:13:15 > 0:13:17then they can tell me if it's...
0:13:17 > 0:13:20if it's like...
0:13:20 > 0:13:25If I'm scared, they can tell me it's OK once you've actually done it, it's not too bad.
0:13:29 > 0:13:34The Saturday morning mathematics lesson is one of Tom's highlights of the week.
0:13:34 > 0:13:37We're going to play a number game to begin with.
0:13:37 > 0:13:43Amy, using these numbers, can you make these into a question that will give you an answer of one of these?
0:13:43 > 0:13:4610 x 2 = 20
0:13:46 > 0:13:49Perfect.
0:13:49 > 0:13:51Tom?
0:13:51 > 0:13:53- Are we allowed to use brackets?- Yes.
0:13:53 > 0:14:01OK. 7 squared, minus (10+4) = 35.
0:14:01 > 0:14:03Excellent.
0:14:03 > 0:14:08I'd hopefully like to use mathematics in my profession.
0:14:08 > 0:14:11I've got quite a few things I might like to be when I'm older.
0:14:11 > 0:14:14Such as a pilot, jet or commercial,
0:14:14 > 0:14:18a doctor - a surgeon or just a doctor,
0:14:18 > 0:14:23or working for the film or TV industry.
0:14:23 > 0:14:26Do you think if you keep digging, you'll end up in Australia?
0:14:26 > 0:14:29That's what my grandmother used to tell me when we were on the beach.
0:14:29 > 0:14:31Mummy, I'd die.
0:14:31 > 0:14:34- Why? Because you'd hit the centre of the Earth first?- Yeah.
0:14:34 > 0:14:38Tilly's last two children William and Liberty were born at home.
0:14:38 > 0:14:42And Jamie has been by her side for all the deliveries.
0:14:42 > 0:14:45There was another bike around here a minute ago.
0:14:45 > 0:14:51As a father, he's taken on the role of breadwinner, working as a freelance IT consultant.
0:14:51 > 0:14:55I work away in the week, so I'm up at...
0:14:55 > 0:15:00I don't know, I get up about five. I leave the house shortly after that.
0:15:00 > 0:15:03I don't get back until 7 or 8 o'clock at night.
0:15:03 > 0:15:06So there's just no time to do anything, really.
0:15:06 > 0:15:09Come the weekend, I've got a list as long as my arm of things I want to do.
0:15:11 > 0:15:15And you always end up disappointed, you never get enough done, you know?
0:15:15 > 0:15:19I've always had a list of things that I want to try and achieve.
0:15:19 > 0:15:22Hey, Tom, how was school?
0:15:23 > 0:15:25I'm so grateful that Jamie is able to bring in enough
0:15:25 > 0:15:30for us to manage without that pressure on me to have to go back to work,
0:15:30 > 0:15:34cos I just feel that I'm split four ways anyway between my lot and,
0:15:34 > 0:15:36to have a job fitting in as well,
0:15:36 > 0:15:39I just wouldn't, I wouldn't be as patient, I wouldn't be...
0:15:39 > 0:15:44It would have impact on all of us, to be honest.
0:15:44 > 0:15:48Because, I don't know, I think how I feel would change a lot,
0:15:48 > 0:15:53without having you to talk to and I'd probably do the cooking if you had a job
0:15:53 > 0:15:56and everybody knows I'm not the best cook in the world.
0:15:56 > 0:15:57So that would be a disaster.
0:15:57 > 0:16:02Tilly basically is a mega-double full-time mum.
0:16:02 > 0:16:06I don't do very much of the hands-on parenting as such,
0:16:06 > 0:16:10but I would if I could. And if the roles were reversed
0:16:10 > 0:16:14I'd be more than happy to stay at home and look after the kids.
0:16:14 > 0:16:16Probably, I say that now.
0:16:16 > 0:16:21I'd love to do it. But it's just the way things have fallen, you know?
0:16:21 > 0:16:23Can you go and hang up your uniform?
0:16:23 > 0:16:27That uniform, and get into your Scout uniform.
0:16:27 > 0:16:31Also, Tom, can you tell me what patrol you're in,
0:16:31 > 0:16:34cos I need to sew your badge on quickly.
0:16:42 > 0:16:45- That's your school jotter?- What?
0:16:45 > 0:16:49- For school?- Yeah, for what we're doing after half term, so...
0:16:49 > 0:16:50Oh, that's nice.
0:16:50 > 0:16:54- Welsh dragon.- Yeah.
0:16:54 > 0:16:56Very good artist...
0:16:56 > 0:17:00very...very good artist, by the way.
0:17:00 > 0:17:02- Thank you.- Is he?- Yeah.
0:17:02 > 0:17:04D'you like doing homework?
0:17:04 > 0:17:08Well, to be honest, it depends what homework it is.
0:17:10 > 0:17:14Before he was born Joseph was tested for the Down's chromosome
0:17:14 > 0:17:19and although the result was clear, it was still a worrying time.
0:17:19 > 0:17:21I was upset about the whole Down syndrome issue
0:17:21 > 0:17:24and you being, like, not Down Syndrome, I suppose.
0:17:24 > 0:17:28But I don't think I would have even understood it at that point anyway.
0:17:28 > 0:17:31I don't know, cos you'd met a few families with youngsters
0:17:31 > 0:17:32with Down's syndrome by then.
0:17:32 > 0:17:35But it didn't really matter in our lives
0:17:35 > 0:17:39because Sammie wasn't any different, she wasn't treated or thought of
0:17:39 > 0:17:44as any different to any other child, even through the wider family.
0:17:44 > 0:17:48Even though I knew I'd had testing done, you've still got that anxiety,
0:17:48 > 0:17:51until the baby's in your arms, you don't know.
0:17:51 > 0:17:53This is there, apart from Down's syndrome,
0:17:53 > 0:17:56I knew that he didn't have Down's syndrome
0:17:56 > 0:17:59but there were so many other things that could have gone wrong,
0:17:59 > 0:18:02between then and the actual delivery, and even during the delivery.
0:18:02 > 0:18:05With having two girls already,
0:18:05 > 0:18:09it's the dream to have a son, and equal the family balance out.
0:18:11 > 0:18:16I was Dad's little, yes... Just keep it at that!
0:18:16 > 0:18:17I was your dream.
0:18:17 > 0:18:23He may be the apple of his father's eye, but Joseph is the spitting image of his mother.
0:18:24 > 0:18:28That's me when I was his age. The first time we got that out I said,
0:18:28 > 0:18:29"Who do you think that is, Joe?"
0:18:29 > 0:18:32He said, "That's me! When did I have that photo done?"
0:18:32 > 0:18:35I don't think it is. Pink glasses.
0:18:36 > 0:18:38- The pink suited you! - Stop flapping it about.
0:18:49 > 0:18:51- Find anything?- No.
0:18:51 > 0:18:55It's at least two feet deep.
0:18:56 > 0:19:02After Tom was born, Tilly got involved in supporting other mothers-to-be in her community.
0:19:02 > 0:19:05It was a role she relished for over a decade.
0:19:06 > 0:19:10That's the cake Mum got when she left being the chairperson
0:19:10 > 0:19:12of Monmouth National Childbirth Trust.
0:19:12 > 0:19:14She got this amazing cake.
0:19:16 > 0:19:23And there was a big picnic afterwards too, so there's Mum with the cake.
0:19:23 > 0:19:25How much do you love your mum and dad?
0:19:25 > 0:19:27We don't love them!
0:19:27 > 0:19:32- No, we don't, do we, really? - No! And I don't love you.
0:19:34 > 0:19:36- I don't believe that. - Nah, it's not true, is it?
0:19:36 > 0:19:38We both love them.
0:19:38 > 0:19:40- No...- Yes, we do!
0:19:42 > 0:19:45Sounds like something to do with an iPhone.
0:19:45 > 0:19:48How would you define your job, your role, then?
0:19:48 > 0:19:53I was thinking about it the other day and I actually do about six jobs in my role.
0:19:53 > 0:19:56Um... As well as being a full-time mother,
0:19:56 > 0:20:00I'm also chauffeur, gardener, cook, cleaner...
0:20:00 > 0:20:03I do all the ironing. When I get round to it.
0:20:03 > 0:20:08I do all the DIY and decorating, because Jamie hates painting.
0:20:08 > 0:20:12The fact that being a mother isn't held in high regard because,
0:20:12 > 0:20:15with the illusion that women can have it all these days,
0:20:15 > 0:20:17there is the expectation that you go out
0:20:17 > 0:20:20and you have your kids and you have your glamorous career.
0:20:20 > 0:20:24And I'm sure that might work for some people but it wouldn't work for me,
0:20:24 > 0:20:27and also, I realised very early on, from becoming a mother,
0:20:27 > 0:20:30I really didn't want someone else bringing up my children.
0:20:30 > 0:20:34So, despite the fact that I've worked in marketing and PR,
0:20:34 > 0:20:37and I've done bits of journalism and I've got my degree,
0:20:37 > 0:20:41I'd actually preferred not to be using it at the moment and just look after my kids.
0:20:41 > 0:20:45My house, my animals, my vegetables, my husband, occasionally, when he's at home.
0:20:51 > 0:20:54It's a busy morning in Abercarn.
0:20:54 > 0:20:56Time for Roxanne to do the school run.
0:20:59 > 0:21:03Her husband Michael works in the construction industry and works long hours.
0:21:03 > 0:21:06At the moment on this job, right, he's home every night.
0:21:06 > 0:21:09But not till about quarter to eight, half seven.
0:21:09 > 0:21:12Um, depending on the traffic.
0:21:12 > 0:21:18Which is unusual, because normally he's not, normally he goes away Monday and he's home Friday.
0:21:18 > 0:21:23Roxanne is a working mum and she always knows what Joseph is up to.
0:21:23 > 0:21:26Her job is in his school office.
0:21:26 > 0:21:30Joseph doesn't always like it because he feels like he's being watched
0:21:30 > 0:21:33by me as well as the teachers, which isn't really fair.
0:21:33 > 0:21:38But the advantages are, you always know what's going on in the school.
0:21:38 > 0:21:42I always know if there's any clubs delayed
0:21:42 > 0:21:46or postponed or whatever, I always know.
0:21:46 > 0:21:51If there's a trip, obviously because I arrange most of the trips, and buses and things.
0:21:52 > 0:21:57For me, you can sometimes know too much about what's going on in your child's own school.
0:22:02 > 0:22:05Do you ever see your mother in school?
0:22:05 > 0:22:08Yeah, a lot of the time because when I'm going out for a break,
0:22:08 > 0:22:11if I want fruit, which we usually do,
0:22:11 > 0:22:17they sell it right by her office, so I see her then, I say hello and then I go out to play.
0:22:17 > 0:22:19And then... I see her quite a lot
0:22:19 > 0:22:21because she walks around a lot, so, yeah.
0:22:24 > 0:22:26But things are about to change.
0:22:26 > 0:22:31Joseph is in his last year at junior school and he is going to miss his outdoor activities.
0:22:33 > 0:22:37There we are, boys. Little bit deeper, I think.
0:22:38 > 0:22:41- That's sort of better than maths, isn't it?- Yeah.
0:22:41 > 0:22:46It's a lot more active than other lessons that we do inside school.
0:22:46 > 0:22:52Which I enjoy, like outdoor things, like PE and outdoor learning and that, yeah.
0:22:52 > 0:22:54Jim, d'you think that's big enough now?
0:22:55 > 0:23:00Do you think you'll be a gardener when you're older, Joe, or have you got other plans?
0:23:00 > 0:23:03I don't know what I'm going to be when I'm older.
0:23:03 > 0:23:06I think I can decide that later in life. So...
0:23:06 > 0:23:10Being a Formula One driver would be good.
0:23:10 > 0:23:15Like, when I watch that on TV with my dad, that's good.
0:23:15 > 0:23:19I enjoy watching that, and it would be good to...
0:23:19 > 0:23:21Jim, I wouldn't go any deeper than that.
0:23:25 > 0:23:26Hang on, wait there.
0:23:31 > 0:23:35- Do you want that?- Oh, that's a good idea, would you mind?
0:23:35 > 0:23:40After 14 years of marriage and bringing up their four children,
0:23:40 > 0:23:43Jamie and Tilly value the family life they have created.
0:23:45 > 0:23:48It's been the most incredible blessing, it really has.
0:23:48 > 0:23:51And I think, in many ways,
0:23:51 > 0:23:56it's been the making of me, you know.
0:23:56 > 0:24:02I needed to have that responsibility before I was able, really,
0:24:02 > 0:24:07to kind of knuckle down and get on and take life seriously.
0:24:10 > 0:24:15And, as tragic as this sounds, I'm so grateful for Till, for...
0:24:15 > 0:24:19making the love that I have for the four kids possible.
0:24:19 > 0:24:23- Aww!- It's true.
0:24:23 > 0:24:28We don't have these conversations very much because we're usually so busy, aren't we?
0:24:28 > 0:24:31We don't even often sit down together. It's quite a luxury.
0:24:32 > 0:24:37Actually, we complement each other really well because things
0:24:37 > 0:24:40that maybe I would find mildly tedious, or,
0:24:40 > 0:24:45frankly, couldn't do, like advanced mathematical questions from Tom...
0:24:45 > 0:24:48I can't, he's going to outgrow me very soon.
0:24:48 > 0:24:50I'm advanced to 14 years old.
0:24:50 > 0:24:52That's all I can do.
0:24:56 > 0:25:00If there's any risk of me spiking you, Tom, I will stop and make you take it off.
0:25:06 > 0:25:10Like many of the Welsh Millennium Babies, Joseph's thoughts
0:25:10 > 0:25:13are turning to his move to the comprehensive school in September.
0:25:16 > 0:25:19Are you looking forward to going to big school?
0:25:19 > 0:25:24Yeah, I think we all are, but the only thing is,
0:25:24 > 0:25:29we're now the big fish in a little pond,
0:25:29 > 0:25:32we're going to be little fish in the big pond
0:25:32 > 0:25:35but, I'm more excited than worried.
0:25:35 > 0:25:39I don't know about these lot, but I'm more excited than worried.
0:25:39 > 0:25:43I'm quite nervous I'm going to get lost in school. It's just massive.
0:25:43 > 0:25:46I'm going to stick together with, like, all these lot.
0:25:46 > 0:25:49We act all big and then, when the day comes, you'll be like, ooh!
0:25:49 > 0:25:54I think we're all a bit worried, but I think we're more excited than worried.
0:25:57 > 0:26:01Miss, can I have your attendance register, please?
0:26:01 > 0:26:06And Mum Roxanne knows this will be a big milestone in Joseph's future.
0:26:08 > 0:26:10I just hope he enjoys his time in comprehensive and,
0:26:10 > 0:26:13hopefully when he gets to year nine,
0:26:13 > 0:26:16that he makes the right choices to climb on
0:26:16 > 0:26:19all through the rest of his life.
0:26:20 > 0:26:24And hopefully, as he gets older, well, just that Joseph
0:26:24 > 0:26:28becomes successful in some sort of way, in whatever he chooses to do
0:26:28 > 0:26:32and has a healthy and happy life through adulthood.
0:26:44 > 0:26:46Tilly and her children are in Monmouth.
0:26:46 > 0:26:50Today a Scout presentation is taking place at the Shire Hall.
0:26:50 > 0:26:56Hello, my name is Tom Ashton and I'm a member of the...
0:26:56 > 0:27:01And Tom is to deliver a speech on charity fundraising to the guests of honour.
0:27:01 > 0:27:06Hello, I'm Tom Ashton, and I'm going to be talking about
0:27:06 > 0:27:12when we raised money, and how we raised money, for the charity ShelterBox.
0:27:12 > 0:27:18We raised money by doing a sponsored silence, a sponsored bounce
0:27:18 > 0:27:23and a few other things, but they escape ME for the current moment.
0:27:23 > 0:27:26Please help them, thank you.
0:27:34 > 0:27:38Thank you so much for your help, wonderful. Thank you.
0:27:38 > 0:27:40Job done.
0:27:40 > 0:27:44And another memory for Mum to capture for the family album.
0:27:44 > 0:27:46How did you find that speech?
0:27:46 > 0:27:51Um, hard, cos I'd only started it, five minutes...
0:27:51 > 0:27:54- You made it up? - I made it up on the spot.
0:27:54 > 0:27:56Didn't Tom do well with his speech?
0:27:56 > 0:27:59Not bad for throwing it together in a couple of minutes. After school.
0:27:59 > 0:28:04So, I was thrilled for him, because he finds it quite hard to think on his feet,
0:28:04 > 0:28:06and in a big room, quite a formal room,
0:28:06 > 0:28:08but he did really well, so, yes, I'm proud.
0:28:08 > 0:28:10My lad, so we're proud.
0:28:10 > 0:28:14So teensy, isn't it, but I am, I'm proud every day, mind you.
0:28:18 > 0:28:21Next time on Welsh Millennium Babies.
0:28:22 > 0:28:26How did life unfold for Ellie after she left special care?
0:28:26 > 0:28:29It's nice to see them go home, especially, like, Ellie.
0:28:30 > 0:28:34And 12 years on, Cameron is in a reflective mood.
0:28:34 > 0:28:38If it weren't for my mum and dad I wouldn't have a place to live,
0:28:38 > 0:28:41a room to live in, bed to sleep in or anything.
0:28:41 > 0:28:43I wouldn't have any food, so I'd die.
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