EMI: The Inside Story

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0:00:02 > 0:00:04This programme contains some strong language.

0:00:04 > 0:00:07There was once an old-fashioned British gramophone company

0:00:07 > 0:00:10who would go on to change popular culture forever.

0:00:10 > 0:00:12It launched The Beatles

0:00:12 > 0:00:15and gave Queen the freedom to make Bohemian Rhapsody.

0:00:17 > 0:00:22We wanted it to be massive, and big... Wow factor, you know?

0:00:22 > 0:00:25They enabled Pink Floyd to create Dark Side of the Moon

0:00:25 > 0:00:28and hired and fired The Sex Pistols.

0:00:30 > 0:00:35Why did McLaren take The Sex Pistols to EMI? It is the establishment.

0:00:35 > 0:00:39There were times of incredible success and hedonistic excess.

0:00:39 > 0:00:42And they thought, "Oh, we'll go broke making this video."

0:00:42 > 0:00:46They gave us original talent like Kate Bush, The Pet Shop Boys

0:00:46 > 0:00:47and Blur.

0:00:50 > 0:00:52EMI was the place to go.

0:00:52 > 0:00:55They were the big thing, and they were after us.

0:00:55 > 0:00:59It's the tale of economic peaks and troughs,

0:00:59 > 0:01:02creative triumphs and rock and roll scandals.

0:01:03 > 0:01:07NME used to refer to EMI as "Every Mistake Imaginable".

0:01:07 > 0:01:13It later became home to Radiohead, Coldplay and Emeli Sande.

0:01:13 > 0:01:15New acts refresh a record company.

0:01:15 > 0:01:19It makes everybody from the secretary to the CEO get excited.

0:01:19 > 0:01:21This is the story of EMI,

0:01:21 > 0:01:25one of the greatest British bands in recording history.

0:01:37 > 0:01:40Formed in 1931, Electric and Musical Industries, EMI,

0:01:40 > 0:01:44had its origins in the pre-war world of sound recording.

0:01:48 > 0:01:51It pioneered stereo sound and developed the tape recorder.

0:01:53 > 0:01:56It had 20,000 employees, manufactured gramophones

0:01:56 > 0:02:00and produced music on shellac discs.

0:02:00 > 0:02:03It's early contracts were with classical artists

0:02:03 > 0:02:04such as Sir Edward Elgar.

0:02:06 > 0:02:10For the first 30 years, EMI was run as a very traditional business

0:02:10 > 0:02:14where men in power wore suits and women were in the typing pool.

0:02:14 > 0:02:15EMI was very structured

0:02:15 > 0:02:18and it was terribly bureaucratic.

0:02:18 > 0:02:19You had a sheet you signed

0:02:19 > 0:02:21to go and get records out of the record library.

0:02:21 > 0:02:23You couldn't just go and nick them.

0:02:23 > 0:02:25Petty cash closed at three o'clock.

0:02:27 > 0:02:30Joan was in charge of the stationary

0:02:30 > 0:02:32cupboard and if you wanted so much

0:02:32 > 0:02:34as a pen or a piece of paper,

0:02:34 > 0:02:36you had to get that signed off.

0:02:37 > 0:02:39The girls obviously did all the work

0:02:39 > 0:02:42and the typing on our little manual typewriters,

0:02:42 > 0:02:45only the managing director's secretary

0:02:45 > 0:02:50was allowed an electric typewriter. She had an electric Olivetti.

0:02:50 > 0:02:52It was immediately obviously a class-ridden place.

0:02:52 > 0:02:54- LONDON ACCENT: - "Yes, guv, what you want?.

0:02:54 > 0:02:56- POSH ACCENT:- "I'm here to see..."

0:02:56 > 0:02:58"Oh, yes, sir, come on."

0:02:58 > 0:03:00You got the right voice, you got in the door.

0:03:08 > 0:03:11This corporate culture with its posh voices

0:03:11 > 0:03:14and typically British class structure reached out

0:03:14 > 0:03:18far beyond EMI's head office in London's Manchester Square.

0:03:19 > 0:03:23It also owned its own recording studios in St John's Wood.

0:03:25 > 0:03:27Abbey Road was a large operation,

0:03:27 > 0:03:30similar to the BBC, in a way,

0:03:30 > 0:03:32That you had all sorts of different

0:03:32 > 0:03:36strata of employees there.

0:03:36 > 0:03:38You had white coats for the engineers.

0:03:38 > 0:03:39If you were a technical engineer

0:03:39 > 0:03:41and you fixed things,

0:03:41 > 0:03:43cos a lot more things went wrong

0:03:43 > 0:03:45back then, they wore brown coats.

0:03:46 > 0:03:49EMI staff wore suits and ties and there was a big sign

0:03:49 > 0:03:53that said that sports jackets and casual trousers

0:03:53 > 0:03:55may be worn at weekends.

0:03:55 > 0:03:58That separation wasn't much to do the with the job,

0:03:58 > 0:04:00it was to do with the schooling.

0:04:00 > 0:04:02Anyone who wore a suit was a public schoolboy,

0:04:02 > 0:04:06anybody who wore a brown overall talked in a regional accent.

0:04:14 > 0:04:16Before the '60s,

0:04:16 > 0:04:19music wasn't the only lucrative part of EMI's business.

0:04:19 > 0:04:23They also manufactured cameras for the new television industry,

0:04:23 > 0:04:27early computers, and even radar for the Ministry of Defence.

0:04:27 > 0:04:30Golf, Charlie, Delta...

0:04:30 > 0:04:32Music was just one of many commodities

0:04:32 > 0:04:34on the EMI production line.

0:04:35 > 0:04:38In the '50s, when an artist went to the studio to make a record,

0:04:38 > 0:04:40he was told to go in the back door.

0:04:40 > 0:04:42He would go in the back of the studio,

0:04:42 > 0:04:44he'd walk down to the studio, get to the microphone,

0:04:44 > 0:04:46sing the song from the vocal booth through the glass,

0:04:46 > 0:04:49the producer would say, "Yes, good take. You can go now."

0:04:49 > 0:04:51He would go out again. He wouldn't hear what he'd recorded.

0:04:51 > 0:04:54He wouldn't even meet the people in the vocal booth.

0:04:54 > 0:04:56I think perhaps a little bit more echo on the voice.

0:04:56 > 0:04:58- Oh, you'd better give him a bit more echo.- Yes, OK.

0:04:58 > 0:05:01The artists were treated with...not contempt,

0:05:01 > 0:05:05but there was a point where you were told what to do

0:05:05 > 0:05:08right through the '50s and into the '60s.

0:05:10 > 0:05:12With the rise of the teenager

0:05:12 > 0:05:15and the success of Elvis Presley's early singles,

0:05:15 > 0:05:17which EMI had licensed and released in the UK,

0:05:17 > 0:05:21suddenly the music business was booming.

0:05:21 > 0:05:24# Set my dreams afloat.... #

0:05:26 > 0:05:30EMI had signed British artists like Alma Cogan and Adam Faith,

0:05:30 > 0:05:33but other record companies such as Pye and Decca

0:05:33 > 0:05:36were competing against them, and the race was on to find new talent.

0:05:38 > 0:05:42EMI were constantly looking for the next money-making opportunity.

0:05:42 > 0:05:45All ready to try one? Let's go.

0:05:46 > 0:05:51# Funny but it's true

0:05:51 > 0:05:56# What loneliness can do

0:05:56 > 0:06:00# Since I've been away

0:06:00 > 0:06:03# I have loved you more each day

0:06:03 > 0:06:05# Walking back to happiness

0:06:05 > 0:06:07# Woopah, oh, yeah, yeah... #

0:06:07 > 0:06:11Abbey Road ran a strict three-hour recording session.

0:06:11 > 0:06:12She ran from 10-1.

0:06:12 > 0:06:14# I never knew I'd miss you... #

0:06:14 > 0:06:17Artists would go into the studio and make three sides

0:06:17 > 0:06:18and they would have no idea

0:06:18 > 0:06:21which was going to the A, B or the discarded record.

0:06:21 > 0:06:23It was nothing to do with the artists at all.

0:06:23 > 0:06:24It was to do with the producer.

0:06:24 > 0:06:27He would go, "That's the A side, that's the B side,

0:06:27 > 0:06:29"and I'll put that one on the album. Off you go."

0:06:29 > 0:06:31# And mistakes to which they led

0:06:31 > 0:06:33# Woopah, oh, yeah, yeah. #

0:06:33 > 0:06:36EMI had three lucrative record labels.

0:06:36 > 0:06:39Columbia, home of Helen Shapiro and Cliff Richard...

0:06:41 > 0:06:46His Master's Voice, HMV, with acts like Manfred Mann...

0:06:46 > 0:06:50and Parlophone, mainly releasing comedy records

0:06:50 > 0:06:53by the likes of Spike Milligan and Peter Sellers.

0:06:55 > 0:06:59But the whole music recording world, and Parlophone in particular,

0:06:59 > 0:07:02was about to change dramatically.

0:07:02 > 0:07:06In 1962, a public school educated music entrepreneur

0:07:06 > 0:07:11brought a young mophead Liverpudlian band to Parlophone and EMI.

0:07:11 > 0:07:14MUSIC: From Me to You by The Beatles

0:07:17 > 0:07:19The Beatles were just one more of the many groups

0:07:19 > 0:07:20which were going around.

0:07:20 > 0:07:23They'd been turned down by a few companies.

0:07:23 > 0:07:25They came to EMI through their manager Brian Epstein.

0:07:25 > 0:07:27Epstein found himself welcomed,

0:07:27 > 0:07:32and with people of his own background and way of speaking.

0:07:32 > 0:07:36Actually I've been very fortunate in the case of every artist

0:07:36 > 0:07:38they have bettered themselves.

0:07:45 > 0:07:47To people in the building, he was the right chap,

0:07:47 > 0:07:50"He's got a group, oh, let him do his group."

0:07:50 > 0:07:52If Epstein hadn't been who he was and been to public school

0:07:52 > 0:07:54and spoke the proper way,

0:07:54 > 0:07:56The Beatles wouldn't have got a deal.

0:07:58 > 0:08:01If Brian Epstein was the right man for EMI,

0:08:01 > 0:08:04it also helped that at Parlophone there was another smartly dressed

0:08:04 > 0:08:09chap, label boss and producer George Martin.

0:08:09 > 0:08:12People have always done slightly different things.

0:08:12 > 0:08:15I'm sure even the old composers, Bach and Mozart,

0:08:15 > 0:08:17were always up to new sounds, new tricks.

0:08:20 > 0:08:22Realising they had struck gold,

0:08:22 > 0:08:25EMI's production line went into overdrive.

0:08:25 > 0:08:28Releasing eight singles and four studio albums

0:08:28 > 0:08:32in The Beatles' first two years on Parlophone.

0:08:32 > 0:08:34There was also a whirlwind of live performances,

0:08:34 > 0:08:38media appearances and photoshoots.

0:08:38 > 0:08:42The demands on The Beatles were enormous.

0:08:42 > 0:08:45These guys were in the studio making one single, two singles, albums,

0:08:45 > 0:08:48and that routine of work was delivered by George,

0:08:48 > 0:08:51and they didn't miss a recording date.

0:08:51 > 0:08:55The Beatles famously made the first album in a 12-hour session.

0:08:55 > 0:08:57# Can't buy me, love

0:08:57 > 0:09:00# Love

0:09:00 > 0:09:03# Can't buy me love... #

0:09:03 > 0:09:08The Beatles became the dominant force in global pop music.

0:09:09 > 0:09:13Parlophone were now the most famous record label on the planet -

0:09:13 > 0:09:16a multi-million pound money-making machine.

0:09:16 > 0:09:18# I don't care too much for money

0:09:18 > 0:09:20# But money can't buy me love. #

0:09:20 > 0:09:21It was a lot of money.

0:09:21 > 0:09:23You have to remember that a record was

0:09:23 > 0:09:26made from something like a halfpenny's worth of vinyl.

0:09:26 > 0:09:30But if a pop song hits, the demand comes big and fast and sometimes

0:09:30 > 0:09:3440 pressers are switched to one record to produce 30,000 a day.

0:09:34 > 0:09:38A halfpenny's worth of vinyl pressed into a record

0:09:38 > 0:09:39produced five shillings.

0:09:39 > 0:09:43Five shillings from a halfpenny is 12,000% profit.

0:09:43 > 0:09:48Record companies had huge amounts of money. No-one more than EMI.

0:09:51 > 0:09:55EMI were able to get records into every outlet

0:09:55 > 0:09:57that sold records in England,

0:09:57 > 0:10:01and with The Beatles they were growing all around the world.

0:10:01 > 0:10:03EMI was the place to go.

0:10:03 > 0:10:06They were the big thing, and they were after us.

0:10:10 > 0:10:13By 1967, there was growing pressure within EMI

0:10:13 > 0:10:17to sign the next great band in popular music.

0:10:19 > 0:10:20They found the answer

0:10:20 > 0:10:23in London's blossoming underground psychedelic scene.

0:10:25 > 0:10:27Well-spoken young gentlemen,

0:10:27 > 0:10:30Pink Floyd clearly fitted the traditional EMI mould.

0:10:32 > 0:10:35We were the people who had our fingers on the pulse of the nation,

0:10:35 > 0:10:38as far as EMI was concerned - they were very nice to us

0:10:38 > 0:10:42because they were these young guys who, furthermore,

0:10:42 > 0:10:44were not spivs from the East End - we weren't...

0:10:44 > 0:10:46- COCKNEY ACCENT:- "Cor, blimey,

0:10:46 > 0:10:48"I've got this great deal for you boys."

0:10:48 > 0:10:52We were nice chaps from public school, and in my case, Cambridge.

0:10:55 > 0:10:58Why has it got to be so loud, so amplified?

0:10:58 > 0:11:00Well, I don't guess it has to be, but,

0:11:00 > 0:11:01I mean, that's the way we like it.

0:11:03 > 0:11:08# Jupiter and Saturn Oberon, Miranda and Titania... #

0:11:08 > 0:11:12We were subversive, but we weren't offensive.

0:11:16 > 0:11:19EMI beginning to understand that youth culture involves

0:11:19 > 0:11:22marketing or selling something which is a little bit

0:11:22 > 0:11:27outside of their own approval area, so your upper middle class corporate

0:11:27 > 0:11:33people are actually having to sell or get involved in psychadelia.

0:11:33 > 0:11:36Here came this group, Pink Floyd, talked to the manager,

0:11:36 > 0:11:39"Oh, nice chap, public school, yes, he'll be all right.

0:11:39 > 0:11:41"What are they doing? Psychedelia. What's that?

0:11:41 > 0:11:44"They take drugs and that." "Really? They take...?"

0:11:44 > 0:11:47And EMI persuaded themselves this was an act, this was theatre,

0:11:47 > 0:11:50this was a play on the stage that the group didn't actually do it,

0:11:50 > 0:11:52this was something they performed, it was selling,

0:11:52 > 0:11:55and that way they could finance it and help it

0:11:55 > 0:11:58and promote it without feeling that they were approving of it.

0:11:58 > 0:12:02They all thought in terms of theatricality rather than reality.

0:12:05 > 0:12:07Psychedelia wasn't necessarily

0:12:07 > 0:12:09anti-establishment - I think people were more alarmed

0:12:09 > 0:12:12at the prospect of it being pro-drug.

0:12:12 > 0:12:14But of course no-one really knew what it meant,

0:12:14 > 0:12:18it was one of those words that was bandied about.

0:12:20 > 0:12:23We got exposed in the News Of The World

0:12:23 > 0:12:27for being a band that was simulating drug experience -

0:12:27 > 0:12:29and nothing happened.

0:12:29 > 0:12:31There was not a peep anywhere else,

0:12:31 > 0:12:34cos I was still teaching at the LSE and I was thinking, "Oh, my God!

0:12:34 > 0:12:37"That's going to be a bit difficult to explain."

0:12:37 > 0:12:38Not a word anywhere.

0:12:41 > 0:12:43It was an establishment company,

0:12:43 > 0:12:47and they can absorb something like which is all about sex and drugs

0:12:47 > 0:12:49and rock and roll.

0:12:49 > 0:12:55No problem. The whole establishment thing just keeps these things cool.

0:13:08 > 0:13:12Like The Beatles before them, all new artists were expected to

0:13:12 > 0:13:16work with the EMI staff producer who had signed them.

0:13:20 > 0:13:22Norman Smith was that man.

0:13:24 > 0:13:26Norman Smith we were happy to take,

0:13:26 > 0:13:29because he had been an engineer with the Beatles.

0:13:29 > 0:13:33And they let us record in the studios in Abbey Road

0:13:33 > 0:13:35where The Beatles recorded.

0:13:36 > 0:13:39And, you had a job number, you could get anything -

0:13:39 > 0:13:43and if I needed a Hammond organ and they didn't have one,

0:13:43 > 0:13:44they would ship it in.

0:13:44 > 0:13:46If I needed a choir, they'd ship it in.

0:13:46 > 0:13:49If I needed a Salvation Army band, they'd bring it in.

0:13:49 > 0:13:51So we were made up.

0:13:54 > 0:13:57The Beatles were actually working on Sgt Pepper's down the hall,

0:13:57 > 0:13:59and that was a big deal.

0:13:59 > 0:14:02A very big deal, and we were invited in to see them,

0:14:02 > 0:14:07it was a bit like being asked to go and meet God, or gods.

0:14:09 > 0:14:12The extraordinary wealth generated for EMI by The Beatles

0:14:12 > 0:14:15had a positive impact on Pink Floyd.

0:14:16 > 0:14:19By 1967, the Fab Four had stopped touring

0:14:19 > 0:14:23and were spending more and more time in the studio.

0:14:23 > 0:14:25Asserting control,

0:14:25 > 0:14:30experimenting with sound and pushing the boundaries of popular music.

0:14:30 > 0:14:33The way The Beatles worked in the studio suddenly EMI went,

0:14:33 > 0:14:36"Oh, well, this is obviously the new model,"

0:14:36 > 0:14:40and the answer was, you spent as long in the studio as you needed

0:14:40 > 0:14:44rather than being given three sessions to make a single.

0:14:45 > 0:14:49This new climate of artistic freedom suited Pink Floyd.

0:14:49 > 0:14:51But it wasn't an overnight change

0:14:51 > 0:14:55in the traditional working practices inside Abbey Road.

0:14:57 > 0:15:00It was a slightly uncomfortable period of transition

0:15:00 > 0:15:04because I was once reprimanded by a man in a brown coat

0:15:04 > 0:15:07when I was caught editing tape.

0:15:07 > 0:15:09Well, that was seen as something

0:15:09 > 0:15:12that the tape ops and the engineers did.

0:15:14 > 0:15:18It was a time when artists were being allowed to take longer

0:15:18 > 0:15:19and being allowed to develop

0:15:19 > 0:15:21and because a band was signed to

0:15:21 > 0:15:24a record company for three albums,

0:15:24 > 0:15:26five albums, they became family

0:15:26 > 0:15:29and hopefully not pressure madly put on them.

0:15:31 > 0:15:33Can I put this down?

0:15:34 > 0:15:37- Just a second.- OK.

0:15:39 > 0:15:41One of the things we did do after two years,

0:15:41 > 0:15:48we renegotiated in order to have absolute unlimited studio time.

0:15:50 > 0:15:52Looking back on it,

0:15:52 > 0:15:55it probably meant we wasted more time than we should have done.

0:15:55 > 0:15:58But on the other hand, we never had that conversation about,

0:15:58 > 0:16:00"Oh, well, if we spend another day in the studio

0:16:00 > 0:16:03"it's going to cost us however much money."

0:16:03 > 0:16:06MUSIC: Mr Soft by Steve Harley & Cockney Rebel

0:16:08 > 0:16:13# Mr Soft turn around and force the world... #

0:16:13 > 0:16:18Increasingly aware of the power of their great British brand, in 1972,

0:16:18 > 0:16:23the recording company formed a label simply called EMI Records.

0:16:23 > 0:16:28And its artists and repertoire department, A&R, were given the cash

0:16:28 > 0:16:34to recruit glamorous new artists like T-Rex and Cockney Rebel.

0:16:34 > 0:16:37EMI as this monstrous machine,

0:16:37 > 0:16:41this huge cooperation, had the wherewithal -

0:16:41 > 0:16:43maybe it was Beatles' money,

0:16:43 > 0:16:50but they had the income to share with young, developing acts.

0:16:50 > 0:16:53# You, so slow, shift your ideas make your mind up

0:16:53 > 0:16:56# In a jiffy, let's be fair... #

0:16:56 > 0:17:00The first Cockney Rebel album was produced by a man

0:17:00 > 0:17:03only his 20s himself, Neil Harrison,

0:17:03 > 0:17:05an EMI in-house producer.

0:17:05 > 0:17:09The first thing they released was my song Sebastian.

0:17:09 > 0:17:11# Generate me limply

0:17:11 > 0:17:13# Cos I can't seem to place... #

0:17:13 > 0:17:18Neil had the idea of an orchestra and choir being added.

0:17:18 > 0:17:23And I'm 22 and I walked in, ten o'clock one morning,

0:17:23 > 0:17:25and there's a 40-piece orchestra

0:17:25 > 0:17:28and a 30-piece choir to be added to my little song.

0:17:28 > 0:17:33And that what was EMI were allowing us to do.

0:17:33 > 0:17:37# Somebody called me Sebastian... #

0:17:37 > 0:17:39By the early '70s,

0:17:39 > 0:17:42the EMI cooperation had expanded its interests further.

0:17:42 > 0:17:46They were pouring millions into a new medical division

0:17:46 > 0:17:49after an EMI scientist had developed the first CAT scanner,

0:17:49 > 0:17:53a machine that would revolutionise medical imaging.

0:17:53 > 0:17:56They had also bought their way into a television studio

0:17:56 > 0:18:00and had become the owners of a cinema chain.

0:18:00 > 0:18:04They were now Britain's biggest entertainment organisation.

0:18:04 > 0:18:06The '70s itself, it was an era

0:18:06 > 0:18:10where EMI was built on excess, but its success, I mean,

0:18:10 > 0:18:11we had a lot of money.

0:18:11 > 0:18:14You know, your A&R budget went up

0:18:14 > 0:18:18and your marketing spend went up and your fund spend went up.

0:18:21 > 0:18:25My job was to organise the parties, spend money

0:18:25 > 0:18:29and buy birthday presents, Christmas presents for all the artists.

0:18:29 > 0:18:32I bought a horse for Elton John,

0:18:32 > 0:18:34so I had to go and obviously

0:18:34 > 0:18:38test drive various horses for him.

0:18:38 > 0:18:41We were wooing him, I don't think we'd actually signed him.

0:18:43 > 0:18:46I think it was Freddie Mercury's 26th birthday party.

0:18:46 > 0:18:47A lady come in and she took

0:18:47 > 0:18:51all her clothes off and then several well-known

0:18:51 > 0:18:53notable people opened bottles of champagne

0:18:53 > 0:18:56and squirted champagne all over her naked body.

0:18:56 > 0:18:59I had never seen anything like that before.

0:19:01 > 0:19:03The alcohol consumption was enormous, without question,

0:19:03 > 0:19:06taking bands out for dinners and lunches and things.

0:19:06 > 0:19:08You're not going to buy Freddie Mercury

0:19:08 > 0:19:09a bottle of Lucozade, are you?

0:19:09 > 0:19:11If he wants a bottle of red

0:19:11 > 0:19:14it's going to be 60 quid a bottle or more.

0:19:14 > 0:19:18I think my world record was £325 for a bottle of red wine.

0:19:20 > 0:19:24Even if people were doing nothing, it seemed busy.

0:19:24 > 0:19:26Because people were allowed to sit around

0:19:26 > 0:19:29and think of creative ideas.

0:19:31 > 0:19:34During my time in EMI Records the profits were growing

0:19:34 > 0:19:37and so there was not an emphasis on cost,

0:19:37 > 0:19:41probably there should have been, but I was much more interested

0:19:41 > 0:19:45at that time in trying to build the business.

0:19:45 > 0:19:48I cared less about the cost being high

0:19:48 > 0:19:53than about developing new artists and seeing the revenue grow.

0:19:58 > 0:20:01If the '60s had been the decade of pop singles,

0:20:01 > 0:20:05the '70s became the era of mass-selling albums.

0:20:05 > 0:20:08For record companies it was win-win.

0:20:09 > 0:20:12LPs generated huge profits,

0:20:12 > 0:20:15and for EMI groups like Pink Floyd and Queen,

0:20:15 > 0:20:17the album became an artistic statement.

0:20:20 > 0:20:22# I was told a million times

0:20:22 > 0:20:24# Of all the troubles in my way

0:20:24 > 0:20:25# Might you grow a little wiser

0:20:25 > 0:20:28# Little better every day

0:20:28 > 0:20:31# But if I crossed a million rivers And I rode a million miles... #

0:20:31 > 0:20:33You know, we were going through a very creative period,

0:20:33 > 0:20:36Freddie especially, and we were trying to use the studio

0:20:36 > 0:20:40to its absolute optimum and fullest extent.

0:20:41 > 0:20:45We were very much into multi-tracking,

0:20:45 > 0:20:50complicated harmonies, complicated instrumental things.

0:20:50 > 0:20:53And we wanted it to be massive and big and...

0:20:53 > 0:20:55Wow factor, you know?

0:20:55 > 0:20:58- # Keep yourself alive - Come on

0:20:58 > 0:20:59# Keep yourself alive

0:20:59 > 0:21:02# You take your time and take my money

0:21:02 > 0:21:03# Keep yourself alive. #

0:21:04 > 0:21:09Not really the most modest of aims, but Freddie always thought big,

0:21:09 > 0:21:14and he always used to say things like, "Talent without debt."

0:21:14 > 0:21:17# Take you all your time and money, honey

0:21:17 > 0:21:21# You will survive # Shake... #

0:21:21 > 0:21:24EMI realised that some bands did have creativity

0:21:24 > 0:21:27to really steer their own career.

0:21:31 > 0:21:35It's all about albums and that sort of gave the artists more power

0:21:35 > 0:21:40and more creative steerage over their own directions.

0:21:43 > 0:21:48By 1973, with eight successful albums behind them,

0:21:48 > 0:21:50Pink Floyd had gained total creative control

0:21:50 > 0:21:55and had long since moved away from working with in-house EMI producers.

0:21:56 > 0:21:58As long as the album sold in their millions

0:21:58 > 0:22:01the creatives could be in charge.

0:22:04 > 0:22:07If Pink Floyd were happier being produced by Pink Floyd,

0:22:07 > 0:22:09hey, if you make a record, do we care?

0:22:09 > 0:22:12If you're going to make a rubbish record we might care,

0:22:12 > 0:22:14but they didn't. They made things like Dark Side of the Moon.

0:22:14 > 0:22:18And we went, "OK, you know how to do this as well."

0:22:21 > 0:22:27# And if the dam breaks open many years too soon

0:22:28 > 0:22:32# And if there is no room upon the hill

0:22:35 > 0:22:41# And if your head explodes with dark forebodings too

0:22:42 > 0:22:46# I'll see you on the dark side of the moon... #

0:22:48 > 0:22:50It went gold, platinum,

0:22:50 > 0:22:52sold a million copies, all that stuff,

0:22:52 > 0:22:54so it was a successful record of its time -

0:22:54 > 0:22:56of course there was a follow up.

0:22:56 > 0:22:57It was the elephant in the room -

0:22:57 > 0:22:59you never went into a meeting with Pink Floyd

0:22:59 > 0:23:02and said, "What's the follow up to Dark Side of the Moon?"

0:23:02 > 0:23:05You were like, "No." No idea how to follow it up.

0:23:05 > 0:23:09But because they were now very famous, very powerful,

0:23:09 > 0:23:14they basically were able to live in Abbey Road studios and play.

0:23:16 > 0:23:18They then sat about making a record

0:23:18 > 0:23:21which consisted of no instruments at all.

0:23:21 > 0:23:23And it was called Household Objects.

0:23:25 > 0:23:29Well, this was simply a continuation of unlimited studio time.

0:23:29 > 0:23:33I think we went in with a vague idea of something

0:23:33 > 0:23:36that we then persevered with for far, far too long.

0:23:37 > 0:23:40They created the sound of a bass guitar by stretching a rubber band

0:23:40 > 0:23:42across the table with two things on it

0:23:42 > 0:23:45and they had egg slicers and they had pencil sharpeners

0:23:45 > 0:23:46and they banged glasses.

0:23:46 > 0:23:50And after about six months they got bored shitless with it.

0:23:50 > 0:23:55Can I have eggs, sausage, chips and beans and a tea?

0:23:55 > 0:23:58And Dave Gilmour said to me, "Do you know we can create a bass guitar

0:23:58 > 0:24:00"by picking up a bass guitar and going boing."

0:24:00 > 0:24:02And they abandoned the entire project.

0:24:02 > 0:24:04Never to be finished, never to be released.

0:24:04 > 0:24:05But no-one at EMI was chasing them,

0:24:05 > 0:24:10cos they were given the freedom - which didn't happen in the '60s.

0:24:11 > 0:24:15By the early '70s the lunatics had taken over the asylum.

0:24:15 > 0:24:17The bands were now in control,

0:24:17 > 0:24:20and I say lunatics in the nicest possible way.

0:24:23 > 0:24:27The UK's company's great commercial success continued,

0:24:27 > 0:24:31and artists like Steve Harley of Cockney Rebel took full advantage.

0:24:32 > 0:24:34He knew that if he got the performance

0:24:34 > 0:24:35and the production right,

0:24:35 > 0:24:40EMI's formidable marketing machine would do the rest.

0:24:40 > 0:24:44One of the executives was Bob Mercer and he came into Abbey Road

0:24:44 > 0:24:48at about 10pm and he said, "What have you got?"

0:24:48 > 0:24:51And we said, "Well, actually,

0:24:51 > 0:24:54"we think we can play what we imagine should be

0:24:54 > 0:24:56"the first single from the album."

0:25:00 > 0:25:06# You've done it all you've broken every code

0:25:08 > 0:25:12# And pulled the rebel to the floor... #

0:25:12 > 0:25:17He heard Make Me Smile once and he said to me, "Number one."

0:25:19 > 0:25:24And I said, "Well, that would be nice, Bob. I swear, number one."

0:25:26 > 0:25:27And he knew he could do it.

0:25:30 > 0:25:31They could move mountains

0:25:31 > 0:25:34if they really, really believed in something

0:25:34 > 0:25:36and put their hearts into it.

0:25:38 > 0:25:44# Come up and see me, make me smile

0:25:45 > 0:25:50# Or do what you want run on wild... #

0:25:51 > 0:25:54He knew that he could organise the troops.

0:25:54 > 0:25:56And when you get those men out there -

0:25:56 > 0:25:59they called them the lunatics in their Mondeos, or something -

0:25:59 > 0:26:02guys who drove around the country, flogging into record shops

0:26:02 > 0:26:04and stuff trying to get you in the charts and that.

0:26:04 > 0:26:07- Good evening, sir, how are you? - All right.- All right, he said.

0:26:09 > 0:26:15In February, 1975, Make Me Smile did make it to number one.

0:26:22 > 0:26:23Throughout the '70s,

0:26:23 > 0:26:27over ten million people regularly listened to the Radio 1 Chart Show,

0:26:27 > 0:26:32and at its peak, over 15 million watched Top Of The Pops.

0:26:34 > 0:26:38Persuading DJs and producers to promote and play EMI artists

0:26:38 > 0:26:40was the job of the record plugger.

0:26:42 > 0:26:43They were characters.

0:26:43 > 0:26:46Men with wild personalities, real salesmen

0:26:46 > 0:26:49and one was Eric Hall, was my main plugger,

0:26:49 > 0:26:54and Eric was just wonderful, eccentric, crazy, funny character.

0:26:56 > 0:26:57When people say to me,

0:26:57 > 0:26:59"Was it driven by money?"

0:26:59 > 0:27:00"Was it driven by profits?"

0:27:00 > 0:27:02Probably was, yes,

0:27:02 > 0:27:04but not at my level.

0:27:04 > 0:27:06I was driven by bands, by artists,

0:27:06 > 0:27:09by the songs, by the music, that's what drove me.

0:27:13 > 0:27:16He was known as Eric "Get Me A Limo" Hall.

0:27:16 > 0:27:19And we'd go and meet him at EMI to go to dinner

0:27:19 > 0:27:21and he'd call a limousine.

0:27:21 > 0:27:24A Daimler limousine would take us a mile round the corner

0:27:24 > 0:27:28to the restaurant and wait for us for four hours and take us back.

0:27:28 > 0:27:30Completely mad.

0:27:32 > 0:27:34His attitude was,

0:27:34 > 0:27:36you got the money there,

0:27:36 > 0:27:38we want to give the artists a good time,

0:27:38 > 0:27:39spend it!

0:27:46 > 0:27:49I didn't believe in not spending money.

0:27:49 > 0:27:54You took somebody out for lunch you ain't taking them to Joe's cafe,

0:27:54 > 0:27:56you take them to a nice restaurant.

0:27:56 > 0:27:58I let Eric do his thing.

0:27:58 > 0:28:02I can recall on one occasion we had a very expensive meal for Queen,

0:28:02 > 0:28:06and Eric was organising all of that.

0:28:08 > 0:28:10And I happened to see a picture on the wall

0:28:10 > 0:28:13which reminded me of my first ever girlfriend.

0:28:13 > 0:28:18And I said to Eric, "I do like that picture. I do like it."

0:28:20 > 0:28:21It's on my wall today.

0:28:21 > 0:28:27One time I remember his expenses went over £1,000 for the month.

0:28:27 > 0:28:31And the then man who had to sign off said, "What?! How much?!"

0:28:31 > 0:28:34And Eric's going, "Come on."

0:28:34 > 0:28:37Cliff Richard made a great remark about me.

0:28:37 > 0:28:38He said,

0:28:38 > 0:28:42"Eric Hall had to leave EMI cos the expense account went platinum."

0:28:45 > 0:28:48# Is this the real life?

0:28:48 > 0:28:51# Is this just fantasy? #

0:28:51 > 0:28:55In late October, 1975, Queen released a six minute single.

0:28:55 > 0:28:57Twice as long as most standard 45s,

0:28:57 > 0:29:02it was the most sophisticated, most expensive single ever released.

0:29:02 > 0:29:05Some feared it would fail commercially

0:29:05 > 0:29:07because radio DJs wouldn't play it,

0:29:07 > 0:29:09but it went to number one for nine weeks

0:29:09 > 0:29:11and sold over a million copies.

0:29:11 > 0:29:15# I'm just a poor boy I need no sympathy... #

0:29:15 > 0:29:18It was definitely a pivotal moment for Queen

0:29:18 > 0:29:22because it sort of catapulted us onto another level,

0:29:22 > 0:29:26especially with the video promo that we made,

0:29:26 > 0:29:27which at the time was a new thing.

0:29:27 > 0:29:30# Thunderbolt and lightning

0:29:30 > 0:29:32# Very, very frightening me

0:29:32 > 0:29:34- # Galileo - Galileo

0:29:34 > 0:29:36- # Galileo - Galileo

0:29:36 > 0:29:39# Galileo Figaro Magnifico... #

0:29:39 > 0:29:42Music was becoming more complex, more elaborate.

0:29:47 > 0:29:51While the record industry became increasingly extravagant,

0:29:51 > 0:29:55British society in the mid-'70s was suffering financially.

0:29:56 > 0:29:59With industrial disputes, electricity blackouts

0:29:59 > 0:30:00and rising unemployment,

0:30:00 > 0:30:05it was a world away from the self-indulgent excess of prog rock.

0:30:06 > 0:30:09The record industry had lost touch with reality.

0:30:09 > 0:30:11It needed to reconnect.

0:30:11 > 0:30:14MUSIC: Anarchy In The UK by the Sex Pistols

0:30:14 > 0:30:16This group are leaders of a whole new teenage cult

0:30:16 > 0:30:18that seems to be on the way

0:30:18 > 0:30:21to being as big as mods and rockers were in the '60s.

0:30:21 > 0:30:24The cult is called punk and the music punk rock.

0:30:24 > 0:30:27# I am an antichrist

0:30:27 > 0:30:31# I am an anarchist

0:30:31 > 0:30:34# Don't know what I want But I know how to get it

0:30:34 > 0:30:37# I wanna destroy passer-by

0:30:37 > 0:30:40# Cos I

0:30:40 > 0:30:43# I wanna be

0:30:43 > 0:30:47# Anarchy... #

0:30:48 > 0:30:51Malcolm McLaren, you discovered and manage the group.

0:30:51 > 0:30:53Now, what about the accusation

0:30:53 > 0:30:56that you're more into chaos than anything else?

0:30:56 > 0:30:58Well, that's an accusation by people

0:30:58 > 0:31:00who really don't understand what kids want.

0:31:02 > 0:31:04Having launched the Beatles

0:31:04 > 0:31:08and struck gold with the likes of Pink Floyd, T Rex and Queen,

0:31:08 > 0:31:12EMI were again looking for the next big thing.

0:31:12 > 0:31:15A group who would strike a chord with the nation's youth.

0:31:16 > 0:31:21In October 1976, they signed the Sex Pistols.

0:31:22 > 0:31:23This was something else.

0:31:23 > 0:31:25This is going to be good.

0:31:25 > 0:31:27Cos I'd heard a couple of hit songs,

0:31:27 > 0:31:28I thought Anarchy In The UK...

0:31:28 > 0:31:30and Vacant, I thought those were hit songs.

0:31:30 > 0:31:33# There's no point in asking you'll get no reply

0:31:33 > 0:31:37# Oh, just remember I don't decide

0:31:37 > 0:31:41# I got no reason, it's all too much... #

0:31:41 > 0:31:44Why did McLaren take the Sex Pistols to EMI?

0:31:44 > 0:31:46It is the establishment.

0:31:46 > 0:31:49It was everything that they were meant to be kicking against.

0:31:49 > 0:31:53# Oh, we're so pretty Oh, so pretty

0:31:53 > 0:31:55# We're vacant... #

0:31:55 > 0:31:58I think it suited Malcolm to be with EMI.

0:31:58 > 0:32:04You know, the big, respectable - respectable - company.

0:32:04 > 0:32:07You want as many people to hear your music as possible,

0:32:07 > 0:32:10so...you don't want the least or the worst,

0:32:10 > 0:32:11you want the best.

0:32:11 > 0:32:14And that's the way we saw EMI.

0:32:15 > 0:32:18People are going, "They can't play their instruments, this is crazy,"

0:32:18 > 0:32:20to people who were on it

0:32:20 > 0:32:24and understood what was going on on the streets of London.

0:32:24 > 0:32:29# And we don't care... #

0:32:29 > 0:32:31I remember going to my boss, going, "I don't get this.

0:32:31 > 0:32:33"I really don't get this," you know?

0:32:33 > 0:32:36And he said to me, "It's nothing to do with you.

0:32:36 > 0:32:40"It's for 17-year-olds who are unemployed - unemployable, perhaps.

0:32:40 > 0:32:43"It's something for them to grab hold of and be part of."

0:32:44 > 0:32:46I wanted to do something for me.

0:32:46 > 0:32:49Cos look at me now, I'm nothing.

0:32:49 > 0:32:51That's what punk is.

0:32:51 > 0:32:53MUSIC: Submission by the Sex Pistols

0:32:55 > 0:32:59I supported my A&R department,

0:32:59 > 0:33:02because they were excited, you know...

0:33:02 > 0:33:05Everyone kept saying, "We've got the new Beatles,"

0:33:05 > 0:33:07but, you know, you had to encourage people

0:33:07 > 0:33:10who thought they'd produce something new and good that would do well.

0:33:10 > 0:33:14# I'm on a submarine mission for you, baby... #

0:33:14 > 0:33:20In November 1976, EMI Records released Anarchy In The UK.

0:33:22 > 0:33:24As a last-minute replacement for Queen,

0:33:24 > 0:33:29the Sex Pistols appeared on Today, Thames Television's tea-time show.

0:33:31 > 0:33:34They turned up with a bunch of people who were their supporters,

0:33:34 > 0:33:36went on television with Bill Grundy,

0:33:36 > 0:33:39the most unqualified man in the world to interview the Sex Pistols!

0:33:39 > 0:33:42- I always wanted to meet you. - Did you really?- Yeah.

0:33:42 > 0:33:44We'll meet afterwards, shall we?

0:33:44 > 0:33:46You dirty sod.

0:33:46 > 0:33:48- You dirty old man.- Well, keep going.

0:33:48 > 0:33:51Go on, you've got another five seconds, say something outrageous.

0:33:51 > 0:33:53You dirty bastard.

0:33:54 > 0:33:56Many of us at EMI didn't see it.

0:33:56 > 0:33:58Cos we were either in the pub or on our way home.

0:33:58 > 0:34:01It was six o'clock television. It wasn't something you watched.

0:34:01 > 0:34:04- Go on, again.- You dirty fucker.

0:34:04 > 0:34:07- What a clever boy.- What a fucking rotter.- Well, that's it for tonight.

0:34:07 > 0:34:10Oh, my goodness, this has gone out live,

0:34:10 > 0:34:13and people were suitably shocked and...

0:34:13 > 0:34:16slightly horrified and slightly worried

0:34:16 > 0:34:18about what's going to be the ramification of this.

0:34:18 > 0:34:21I'll be seeing you soon. I hope I'm not seeing YOU again.

0:34:21 > 0:34:23From me, though, goodnight.

0:34:25 > 0:34:29Yeah, there was a bit...a deal of shock, I remember, in the building.

0:34:29 > 0:34:32I thought it was all very amusing, actually!

0:34:34 > 0:34:36Then you know something is really happening,

0:34:36 > 0:34:39when all the news sellers, Sex Pistols, Anarchy In The UK,

0:34:39 > 0:34:42all this sort of stuff going on when you're walking down the street,

0:34:42 > 0:34:44people talking about this band

0:34:44 > 0:34:46who are going to wreck the Establishment and the Queen,

0:34:46 > 0:34:48you know, and all this.

0:34:48 > 0:34:50And I thought, "This is great, this is fantastic.

0:34:50 > 0:34:53"This is what we should be doing now."

0:34:53 > 0:34:56It caused a huge amount of concern,

0:34:56 > 0:34:59partly because of course EMI as a diversified group, you know,

0:34:59 > 0:35:02had all these electronics companies.

0:35:02 > 0:35:05And the people in the electronics companies were saying,

0:35:05 > 0:35:08"We don't want to work alongside a company

0:35:08 > 0:35:11"that's got these kind of people involved with it."

0:35:11 > 0:35:13Our people, in the record company, said,

0:35:13 > 0:35:17"Yeah, but this is what the record business is all about," you know.

0:35:17 > 0:35:21These companies have echelons of layers of responsibility and stuff,

0:35:21 > 0:35:25and I'm sure the right hand don't know what the left hand's doing.

0:35:25 > 0:35:26Just as well!

0:35:29 > 0:35:33There was questions in the House of Commons, MPs writing letters,

0:35:33 > 0:35:37remembering EMI was a high-profile Tory company, if you like,

0:35:37 > 0:35:40and had contracts with the Government for defence things,

0:35:40 > 0:35:41so this was all being thrown about,

0:35:41 > 0:35:43and they didn't want to lose any of that,

0:35:43 > 0:35:46because of this behaviour by this strange pop group.

0:35:48 > 0:35:51The controversy had serious ramifications

0:35:51 > 0:35:52for EMI the record label

0:35:52 > 0:35:55and for EMI the big business corporation.

0:35:55 > 0:35:58Papers like the Daily Mail, for example,

0:35:58 > 0:35:59they did a whole page on me.

0:35:59 > 0:36:03They also walked up and down the street where I lived

0:36:03 > 0:36:04and in the town, saying,

0:36:04 > 0:36:07"What's it like to live next-door to this punk man?"

0:36:08 > 0:36:10I was given instructions that,

0:36:10 > 0:36:13as the EMI press officer who was dealing with the press enquiries,

0:36:13 > 0:36:16I was not allowed to deal with the press enquiries,

0:36:16 > 0:36:18it now had to be referred upstairs to corporate.

0:36:21 > 0:36:25I mean, at the time we had on the board Lord Shawcross,

0:36:25 > 0:36:28famous for the Nuremberg Trials.

0:36:28 > 0:36:31We had Sir Geoffrey Howe, other luminaries of that kind.

0:36:31 > 0:36:35So for them, you know, it was a real culture shock.

0:36:35 > 0:36:39And my boss told me to call the promotion manager,

0:36:39 > 0:36:42who was on the road with the Sex Pistols.

0:36:42 > 0:36:46He was in the room when we called, with the group,

0:36:46 > 0:36:49and we had to tell him to "just walk out the door,

0:36:49 > 0:36:51"get your stuff and come back".

0:36:54 > 0:36:58And in the end I was instructed by the chairman of EMI

0:36:58 > 0:37:01to go to Amsterdam to meet Malcolm McLaren,

0:37:01 > 0:37:04the manager, and fire them.

0:37:04 > 0:37:06# EMI!

0:37:07 > 0:37:08# EMI! #

0:37:08 > 0:37:12I went to a meeting and I was sitting on the floor

0:37:12 > 0:37:14and suddenly in the middle of the meeting they said,

0:37:14 > 0:37:16"Who is the disgusting, awful person

0:37:16 > 0:37:19"who signed this terrible, disgusting band, the Sex Pistols?"

0:37:19 > 0:37:23And I had to put my hand up like a naughty schoolboy

0:37:23 > 0:37:27and they just..."Oh, it was you."

0:37:27 > 0:37:29It was like, "You!"

0:37:29 > 0:37:33And, erm...I roasted there for the rest of the meeting.

0:37:33 > 0:37:37We had possibly the most important band of that movement

0:37:37 > 0:37:40and we had, you know, sacked them.

0:37:40 > 0:37:42I did feel sorry for some of the people there

0:37:42 > 0:37:45that we'd established a rapport with,

0:37:45 > 0:37:49because I knew that they were really into the band, had got it.

0:37:49 > 0:37:53And then it had been taken away from them by people above them.

0:37:53 > 0:37:55# Goodbye. #

0:38:00 > 0:38:02The sound of punk rock.

0:38:03 > 0:38:06The marriage lasted for only 90 days

0:38:06 > 0:38:08and the Sex Pistols ended up on Virgin,

0:38:08 > 0:38:11a small independent label which promoted itself

0:38:11 > 0:38:13as the polar opposite

0:38:13 > 0:38:17of a mainstream conservative corporation such as EMI.

0:38:17 > 0:38:20I think it's a hats-off to Virgin that they saw,

0:38:20 > 0:38:22"It doesn't matter how much problems they give us,

0:38:22 > 0:38:24"they're going to be really good for the label."

0:38:24 > 0:38:27Branson spotted that.

0:38:27 > 0:38:33It showed that EMI could not keep up with the shifting times.

0:38:33 > 0:38:37That, in a way, killed off EMI Publishing,

0:38:37 > 0:38:41EMI Records of signing any other punk band, pretty well.

0:38:41 > 0:38:45When I signed the Rolling Stones, what did Mick Jagger say to me?

0:38:45 > 0:38:48He said, "If we go on television and say the F word,

0:38:48 > 0:38:50"you aren't going to fire us?"

0:38:50 > 0:38:53I said, "No, no, no, no, no, of course not."

0:38:53 > 0:38:57MUSIC: Wuthering Heights by Kate Bush

0:39:01 > 0:39:03# Out on the wily... #

0:39:03 > 0:39:07Just when it looked as if EMI was a spent force,

0:39:07 > 0:39:10awkwardly out of step with youthful movements and changing times,

0:39:10 > 0:39:14they turned their attention to an extraordinary teenage artist

0:39:14 > 0:39:17they had put on a retainer as a 17-year-old schoolgirl.

0:39:17 > 0:39:19# How could you leave me

0:39:19 > 0:39:23# When I needed to possess you?

0:39:23 > 0:39:26# I hated you I loved you, too... #

0:39:26 > 0:39:30With her debut release in 1978, now aged 19,

0:39:30 > 0:39:33Kate Bush became the first female artist

0:39:33 > 0:39:36to top the UK chart with a self-written song.

0:39:36 > 0:39:40# ..my wuthering, wuthering Wuthering Heights

0:39:40 > 0:39:42# Heathcliff

0:39:42 > 0:39:45# It's me, Cathy Come home, I'm

0:39:45 > 0:39:48# So cold... #

0:39:48 > 0:39:51Even though the company had launched such an original

0:39:51 > 0:39:53and commercial musical talent,

0:39:53 > 0:39:57the music industry was about to fall off the dance floor.

0:39:57 > 0:40:011979 saw the world plunge into recession.

0:40:02 > 0:40:03Record sales slumped

0:40:03 > 0:40:06and EMI's medical division had spectacular losses.

0:40:08 > 0:40:11The great old corporation was in financial crisis.

0:40:13 > 0:40:16Salvation came from an unlikely source.

0:40:16 > 0:40:19Electrical business giant Thorn, the king of the light bulb,

0:40:19 > 0:40:22proposed a merger.

0:40:22 > 0:40:24Well, I thought, "Who the fuck's this?" You know.

0:40:24 > 0:40:26"Erm, they make light bulbs. Er...

0:40:26 > 0:40:30"What's that got to do with what we do?" You know.

0:40:31 > 0:40:36Thorn EMI was mainly involved in electronics, defence and retail.

0:40:38 > 0:40:41It soon sold off EMI's medical interests.

0:40:41 > 0:40:44The music side of the company would also be under threat,

0:40:44 > 0:40:48unless they could unearth and sell new talent.

0:40:48 > 0:40:52We were desperately waiting for the next big thing,

0:40:52 > 0:40:57and there might have been... slightly less extravagance,

0:40:57 > 0:41:00until the party started...anew.

0:41:00 > 0:41:03MUSIC: Chase by Giorgio Moroder

0:41:07 > 0:41:09It was 1979,

0:41:09 > 0:41:13Labour Isn't Working, Maggie Thatcher came to power.

0:41:13 > 0:41:17Punk was failing, people had lost interest, the girls in particular.

0:41:17 > 0:41:22There was change in the air. I think it was just perfect timing.

0:41:24 > 0:41:29Against the backdrop of Thatcherism and early-1980s austerity,

0:41:29 > 0:41:33a new scene suddenly developed, built on escapism,

0:41:33 > 0:41:36aspiration and dreams of material wealth.

0:41:38 > 0:41:40In Birmingham, Duran Duran,

0:41:40 > 0:41:43one of the New Romantic movement's unsigned bands,

0:41:43 > 0:41:47were looking to find a record company to launch them to stardom.

0:41:47 > 0:41:52We were not going to be your typical managers

0:41:52 > 0:41:55who take a half-honed act to a label

0:41:55 > 0:41:58to be taken in and then whatever the label decide

0:41:58 > 0:42:00to do with that act, they will.

0:42:00 > 0:42:03You have to control your own destiny.

0:42:03 > 0:42:08And we developed the act and we did the complete package.

0:42:08 > 0:42:14# Only came outside to watch the night fall with the rain... #

0:42:14 > 0:42:18Paul Berrow rang up out of the blue and he said,

0:42:18 > 0:42:20"I've got a band people are really interested in."

0:42:20 > 0:42:25I didn't know who the hell he was but he...he talked a good talk.

0:42:25 > 0:42:28# Looking for the TV sound... #

0:42:28 > 0:42:30Dave understood it.

0:42:30 > 0:42:34Dave understood it musically and understood it sociologically.

0:42:34 > 0:42:39He understood that the time had come for a band of this nature.

0:42:40 > 0:42:42# This is Planet Earth... #

0:42:42 > 0:42:44An Anglo-Saxon New Romantic band

0:42:44 > 0:42:48with a New York groove and glam-rock style would surely be perfect

0:42:48 > 0:42:51for thoroughly British EMI records.

0:42:51 > 0:42:53# This is Planet Earth... #

0:42:53 > 0:42:57But with the new movement gaining momentum, other UK labels

0:42:57 > 0:43:01were confidently competing with them to get Duran Duran's signature.

0:43:02 > 0:43:04I was in the van with Duran Duran.

0:43:04 > 0:43:07I remember when they had a better offer from Phonogram

0:43:07 > 0:43:10and they all moved to the other end of the Winnebago,

0:43:10 > 0:43:12they wouldn't speak to me.

0:43:13 > 0:43:16And it was terrible. We didn't have mobile phones then.

0:43:16 > 0:43:19So I had to jump out and get on the phone box and tell them,

0:43:19 > 0:43:21"For God's sake raise the offer!

0:43:21 > 0:43:24"No-one's speaking to me."

0:43:24 > 0:43:28I realised after punk we had to have something more musical.

0:43:28 > 0:43:31And I'd previously tried to get Spandau Ballet

0:43:31 > 0:43:34but unfortunately they wanted a huge clothes budget

0:43:34 > 0:43:37of about 70 grand, so that was out.

0:43:37 > 0:43:40New acts refresh a record company.

0:43:40 > 0:43:44It makes everybody from the secretary to the CEO get excited.

0:43:44 > 0:43:46It's the reason for them to be there.

0:43:46 > 0:43:49MUSIC: Girls On Film by Duran Duran

0:43:49 > 0:43:53When we finally got them, there was a tremendous atmosphere

0:43:53 > 0:43:54in the company that this...

0:43:54 > 0:43:57we were going to make this into the next Queen,

0:43:57 > 0:44:00this is going to be a big band, you know?

0:44:00 > 0:44:04For EMI the arrival of Duran Duran was perfect timing.

0:44:04 > 0:44:081981 saw the birth of a new music channel in America

0:44:08 > 0:44:11that propelled the recording industry into the video age.

0:44:13 > 0:44:16With the pioneering success of Queen's Bohemian Rhapsody

0:44:16 > 0:44:19behind them, EMI knew the importance of the pop video

0:44:19 > 0:44:22and how it could be used as a marketing tool

0:44:22 > 0:44:25to buck recession and sell more records.

0:44:27 > 0:44:31In Duran Duran, EMI had the perfect act for the MTV generation.

0:44:33 > 0:44:35Duran Duran was a package.

0:44:35 > 0:44:37It was targeted at a specific audience,

0:44:37 > 0:44:38it was a lifestyle package,

0:44:38 > 0:44:41it was about hedonism and it was about glamour,

0:44:41 > 0:44:43and they wrapped it up really well.

0:44:43 > 0:44:46# Girls on film Two minutes later

0:44:46 > 0:44:48# Girls on film... #

0:44:52 > 0:44:56Duran Duran insisted on very extravagant videos,

0:44:56 > 0:45:01which were phenomenal for EMI at that time.

0:45:01 > 0:45:05They thought, "Oh, we'll go broke making this video on Duran Duran."

0:45:07 > 0:45:11We informed a lot of the music industry about, there's a degree

0:45:11 > 0:45:14of sophistication in the way you take music to market.

0:45:14 > 0:45:18There's much more about the brand and how people make a connection

0:45:18 > 0:45:21between the music they hear on the radio and the video they might see.

0:45:21 > 0:45:23What's your target audience?

0:45:23 > 0:45:26People really didn't think in those terms, really, until then.

0:45:26 > 0:45:29I think it was just music.

0:45:29 > 0:45:30# Her name is Rio

0:45:30 > 0:45:35# And she dances on the sand

0:45:35 > 0:45:37# Just like that river

0:45:37 > 0:45:41# Twisting through a dusty land... #

0:45:41 > 0:45:44The imagery gave the public the thought and the feel,

0:45:44 > 0:45:48the awareness, that this was an industry out of control with money.

0:45:48 > 0:45:52And, of course, the videos were out-of-control expensive, it's true.

0:45:54 > 0:45:56We came along at exactly the right moment,

0:45:56 > 0:46:01when MTV had a hunger for music videos,

0:46:01 > 0:46:06and EMI fed it and wrote cheques out to whatever was required,

0:46:06 > 0:46:08in order to be in the game.

0:46:08 > 0:46:10# Her name is Rio

0:46:10 > 0:46:15# She don't need to understand

0:46:15 > 0:46:18# I might find her if I'm looking... #

0:46:18 > 0:46:21Producing great music wasn't enough any more.

0:46:21 > 0:46:24The importance of branding became central to the pop proposition.

0:46:26 > 0:46:32And, in 1985, a new duo emerged that would push that to its limits.

0:46:32 > 0:46:34It's time for pop now. This morning, we have a group

0:46:34 > 0:46:37who may not be household names at the moment, but who are being tipped

0:46:37 > 0:46:40for the top. They're called the Pet Shop Boys,

0:46:40 > 0:46:43and their new single is already doing very well, indeed.

0:46:43 > 0:46:45# I've got the brains

0:46:45 > 0:46:47# You've got the looks

0:46:47 > 0:46:51# Let's make lots of money

0:46:51 > 0:46:53# You've got the brawn

0:46:53 > 0:46:55# I've got the brains

0:46:55 > 0:46:58# Let's make lots of... #

0:46:58 > 0:47:02Pet Shop Boys had that kind of urban cool about them.

0:47:02 > 0:47:03It wasn't purely about the songs.

0:47:03 > 0:47:06It was the way those songs were presented and wrapped up.

0:47:06 > 0:47:08I think the Pet Shop Boys were the first artists

0:47:08 > 0:47:11who really understood the power of branding.

0:47:16 > 0:47:20Chris and I insisted on being on the Parlophone label

0:47:20 > 0:47:24cos EMI label had no real identity.

0:47:24 > 0:47:27I thought of it, actually, as being a bit naff,

0:47:27 > 0:47:30which is unfair cos, for instance, Kate Bush was on EMI.

0:47:30 > 0:47:33But it always seemed a bit generic,

0:47:33 > 0:47:37whereas Parlophone is the label that the Beatles had been on.

0:47:40 > 0:47:43When the Pet Shop Boys talk about signing to Parlophone,

0:47:43 > 0:47:47in a way, Parlophone signed to the Pet Shop Boys,

0:47:47 > 0:47:53because they breathed life into a brand

0:47:53 > 0:47:57which everyone remembered for the Beatles.

0:47:57 > 0:48:00And they were the first, really, that started to be

0:48:00 > 0:48:03the building blocks of a new future for that label.

0:48:03 > 0:48:06# In a west end town a dead-end world

0:48:06 > 0:48:10# The east end boys and west end girls... #

0:48:10 > 0:48:15They were passionately interested in the whole process of making records,

0:48:15 > 0:48:19both on the music side, but also releasing records

0:48:19 > 0:48:21and bringing them to the marketplace.

0:48:21 > 0:48:24So they had opinions about what we did.

0:48:24 > 0:48:27# The east end boys and west end girls... #

0:48:27 > 0:48:31Our first album cover, Please, if you look at it,

0:48:31 > 0:48:33it still looks strikingly minimal.

0:48:33 > 0:48:36It's a white cover with a tiny, square picture.

0:48:36 > 0:48:39If you were to look at that album against everything else

0:48:39 > 0:48:42being released at that time, it's quite shocking.

0:48:42 > 0:48:45Because it's so underselling it.

0:48:45 > 0:48:47It would be impossible to undersell it any more.

0:48:49 > 0:48:52We always wanted the purity of our ideas to be expressed.

0:48:54 > 0:49:00Their ideas were incredibly innovative, visually,

0:49:00 > 0:49:03in the way that their music was packaged,

0:49:03 > 0:49:06in the way that the videos were directed.

0:49:06 > 0:49:09They'd be using people like Derek Jarman.

0:49:09 > 0:49:12# When I look back upon my life

0:49:12 > 0:49:16# It's always with a sense of shame... #

0:49:16 > 0:49:20The toy box was wider than simply being a band that made music.

0:49:20 > 0:49:25It had a huge effect, I think, on the way the company worked.

0:49:25 > 0:49:29And that sort of arty way of doing things

0:49:29 > 0:49:33became Parlophone's way of doing things.

0:49:33 > 0:49:37# It's a, it's a, it's a

0:49:37 > 0:49:40# It's a sin... #

0:49:40 > 0:49:42Things have changed dramatically

0:49:42 > 0:49:45since the early days of EMI, when artists and records

0:49:45 > 0:49:48were treated as here today, gone tomorrow consumer products.

0:49:51 > 0:49:54The Pet Shop Boys had a huge impact on the artistic style,

0:49:54 > 0:49:57design and production of pop music in the '80s.

0:49:58 > 0:50:00They achieved global success

0:50:00 > 0:50:03and, at the time, became EMI's biggest selling artists.

0:50:05 > 0:50:06It was an interesting period.

0:50:06 > 0:50:08In the mid-80s, right into the '90s,

0:50:08 > 0:50:11there was lots of money washing around the business.

0:50:11 > 0:50:14If you wanted to have a big, excessive pop project,

0:50:14 > 0:50:17the majors are the place you'll go to.

0:50:17 > 0:50:21If you wanted to be cool and connect with the kids, you're an indie.

0:50:22 > 0:50:26# Sweetness I was only joking when I said

0:50:26 > 0:50:27# I'd like to... #

0:50:27 > 0:50:30The music industry was changing rapidly.

0:50:30 > 0:50:32Independent record labels were now leading the way

0:50:32 > 0:50:34in developing new talent.

0:50:34 > 0:50:38EMI had prided itself on signing the key British acts

0:50:38 > 0:50:40of each music movement.

0:50:40 > 0:50:43In 1986, they signed the Smiths,

0:50:43 > 0:50:45one of the most important indie groups.

0:50:45 > 0:50:49But they split acrimoniously before they could release anything.

0:50:50 > 0:50:54You had the likes of the NME, really used to target EMI -

0:50:54 > 0:50:58it used to be the butt of all their jokes,

0:50:58 > 0:51:00everything that was wrong in corporate music.

0:51:00 > 0:51:02NME used to refer to EMI as "Every Mistake Imaginable".

0:51:02 > 0:51:07The independents were sexier. It was against the Man and EMI was the Man.

0:51:07 > 0:51:10# Right here, right now

0:51:10 > 0:51:14# There is no other place I want to be... #

0:51:14 > 0:51:16Somehow, EMI desperately needed to shake off

0:51:16 > 0:51:19its corporate, uncool image.

0:51:19 > 0:51:23The radical solution in 1988 was to get into bed with Food Records,

0:51:23 > 0:51:28a rising young independent label with acts like Jesus Jones.

0:51:28 > 0:51:31We needed the association with someone like Food,

0:51:31 > 0:51:33who could be great at incubating talent

0:51:33 > 0:51:35under the guise of an independent.

0:51:35 > 0:51:38EMI could help fund that and help internationalise that.

0:51:38 > 0:51:42And they also had that air of independent cool that EMI needed.

0:51:45 > 0:51:49Our role with EMI was to act as a sort of renegade commando unit

0:51:49 > 0:51:52that could go off on secret missions,

0:51:52 > 0:51:59without any knowledge of our overseers back at EMI HQ.

0:52:01 > 0:52:03The first act that Andy Ross and I saw,

0:52:03 > 0:52:06we went down to The Cricketers in the Oval.

0:52:06 > 0:52:13We came to see this fairly dodgy band called Seymour,

0:52:13 > 0:52:16who had one brilliant song called She's So High, at that time.

0:52:16 > 0:52:19And, of course, that band turned into Blur.

0:52:19 > 0:52:21# She's so high

0:52:21 > 0:52:23# She's so high

0:52:23 > 0:52:26# She's so high

0:52:26 > 0:52:31# I want to crawl all over her... #

0:52:31 > 0:52:33We got a lot of stick from our peers,

0:52:33 > 0:52:37and a lot of derision for selling out to the Man,

0:52:37 > 0:52:40the corporate. It was sucking the whatsit, whatsit.

0:52:40 > 0:52:42Corporate was one of those words.

0:52:47 > 0:52:49The deal with Food was working,

0:52:49 > 0:52:52and Blur's second single was a top ten hit.

0:52:52 > 0:52:55Things were looking good for the new relationship.

0:52:55 > 0:52:57# There's no other way

0:52:57 > 0:52:59# There's no other way

0:52:59 > 0:53:03# All that you can do is watch them play

0:53:03 > 0:53:06# There's no other way

0:53:06 > 0:53:08# There's no other way

0:53:08 > 0:53:10# All that you can do is watch them play... #

0:53:10 > 0:53:14But then the Americans came along and spoiled the party.

0:53:18 > 0:53:20# With the lights out

0:53:20 > 0:53:22# It's less dangerous... #

0:53:22 > 0:53:25The Blur camp hit back in true British style.

0:53:25 > 0:53:29Damon's always been quite a good judge of the climate.

0:53:29 > 0:53:32He reacted against the grunge invasion,

0:53:32 > 0:53:37and reacted quite vigorously in an opposite direction.

0:53:37 > 0:53:42# He's a 20th-century boy

0:53:42 > 0:53:45# With his hands on the rails... #

0:53:45 > 0:53:48Blur's second album, Modern Life Is Rubbish,

0:53:48 > 0:53:51was a celebration of where they lived.

0:53:51 > 0:53:54From the promo photos, through to the video imagery,

0:53:54 > 0:53:57they looked and sounded firmly in the tradition

0:53:57 > 0:53:59of EMI's Great British acts.

0:54:04 > 0:54:07By default, I think Damon took up this mantle of,

0:54:07 > 0:54:08"Let's be very British."

0:54:12 > 0:54:15They became definitively British, really, and set the tone of,

0:54:15 > 0:54:19"Let's revive the spirit of the Beatles and the Stones

0:54:19 > 0:54:23"and the glory days of Britain, irrespective of any jingoism."

0:54:23 > 0:54:27It was all about the Great British tradition of pop music.

0:54:27 > 0:54:30This ultimately, of course, led to Britpop.

0:54:37 > 0:54:41By the mid-90s, cool Britannia was confidently promoting

0:54:41 > 0:54:44our great art, fashion and music scenes to the world.

0:54:47 > 0:54:49Blur were at the very epicentre,

0:54:49 > 0:54:51with their special brand of Britishness.

0:54:51 > 0:54:55# All the people

0:54:55 > 0:54:59# So many people... #

0:54:59 > 0:55:01The '90s were good to EMI.

0:55:01 > 0:55:05They also snapped up their old punk competitor, Virgin Records,

0:55:05 > 0:55:07in a £500 million deal.

0:55:07 > 0:55:11Together, they would become home to acts such as the Spice Girls,

0:55:11 > 0:55:13the Rolling Stones and Robbie Williams.

0:55:15 > 0:55:19But before all that, a battle for number one between Blur

0:55:19 > 0:55:22and indie kings Oasis grabbed the headlines.

0:55:24 > 0:55:26Bucking all recent trends,

0:55:26 > 0:55:29the uncool corporate giant triumphed once more.

0:55:29 > 0:55:31Hello, we're Blur. We're number one,

0:55:31 > 0:55:34and we're going to be camping it up later on Top of the Pops.

0:55:35 > 0:55:40To me, it rubber-stamped the fact that we were the major label

0:55:40 > 0:55:42with the spirit of an indie.

0:55:46 > 0:55:48All of a sudden, EMI became competitive,

0:55:48 > 0:55:50in terms of signing talent.

0:55:50 > 0:55:54Artists were doing the rounds and had offers from competitors,

0:55:54 > 0:55:57but were waiting, holding out for the Parlophone offer,

0:55:57 > 0:55:59because that's really where they wanted to be.

0:56:02 > 0:56:04Not since the golden age of the Beatles

0:56:04 > 0:56:07would EMI and Parlophone have such relevance.

0:56:07 > 0:56:10They were once again at the forefront of British music,

0:56:10 > 0:56:15attracting new acts such as Supergrass, Coldplay and Radiohead.

0:56:15 > 0:56:18# Can't get the stink off

0:56:18 > 0:56:22# He's been hanging round for days... #

0:56:22 > 0:56:25But after a perfect storm of Great British music,

0:56:25 > 0:56:28dark clouds were gathering.

0:56:28 > 0:56:32The youngest guy who worked in our label came into my office

0:56:32 > 0:56:36and he showed me this shiny little disc, which looked like a CD.

0:56:36 > 0:56:40He said, "It's a CD-R." I said, "Oh, yeah. And?"

0:56:40 > 0:56:44He said, "I've burnt some tracks on it." I said, "What do you mean?"

0:56:46 > 0:56:49He said, "I copied some tracks on it."

0:56:49 > 0:56:52I said, "Right. And where did you get them from?"

0:56:52 > 0:56:54He said, "I downloaded it from the internet."

0:56:54 > 0:56:57I said, "So what's on there?" He said, "Beatles."

0:56:57 > 0:56:59I said, "Oh, which songs?"

0:56:59 > 0:57:01He said, "All of them."

0:57:01 > 0:57:04Piracy and file sharing swept the globe.

0:57:04 > 0:57:07New technologies would threaten the very existence

0:57:07 > 0:57:09of the music industry.

0:57:10 > 0:57:15Britain's oldest record company was struggling to survive.

0:57:15 > 0:57:16After a brief takeover,

0:57:16 > 0:57:19and following the financial crash of 2008,

0:57:19 > 0:57:23some of EMI's biggest acts, including the Rolling Stones

0:57:23 > 0:57:25and Radiohead, parted company.

0:57:26 > 0:57:30It increasingly looked as if the old-style record labels

0:57:30 > 0:57:31had had their day.

0:57:31 > 0:57:34The keys to the kingdom that the music industry held,

0:57:34 > 0:57:36is that if you wanted a career in the music business,

0:57:36 > 0:57:40you had to sign to a well-funded indie or a major label.

0:57:40 > 0:57:43They owned the factories who made the records,

0:57:43 > 0:57:45they put it into trucks, sent it to stores.

0:57:45 > 0:57:47Gone. Absolutely gone.

0:57:48 > 0:57:53Things had to change - and in 2013, Parlophone went its separate way.

0:57:53 > 0:57:56Virgin and EMI started a new chapter together.

0:57:57 > 0:58:00People began signing up to subscription services

0:58:00 > 0:58:03and finally started paying for music again.

0:58:04 > 0:58:08In business terms, 2015 was the most successful year

0:58:08 > 0:58:11for the music industry since the late 1990s.

0:58:12 > 0:58:15The EMI and Parlophone brands live on,

0:58:15 > 0:58:19and at the heart of it all, there is still one constant.

0:58:19 > 0:58:22Great British music.

0:58:22 > 0:58:25EMI was the company that brought the Beatles to the world,

0:58:25 > 0:58:27and, not only that, they brought Pink Floyd to the world,

0:58:27 > 0:58:29and they brought Kate Bush to the world,

0:58:29 > 0:58:32and they brought Blur to the world.

0:58:32 > 0:58:36Duran Duran, Radiohead, it goes on and on and on.

0:58:36 > 0:58:40When you put together the hall of fame of great British artists,

0:58:40 > 0:58:42I think you'll find a significant majority of them

0:58:42 > 0:58:44will have come through EMI.

0:58:44 > 0:58:47MUSIC: Pompeii by Bastille