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0:00:02 > 0:00:04TRAD JAZZ MUSIC

0:00:04 > 0:00:08In the post-war years, a bunch of British musicians

0:00:08 > 0:00:11looked to New Orleans for a taste of freedom

0:00:11 > 0:00:12and a generation caught on.

0:00:15 > 0:00:17- It was a journey of revelation. - Unbelievable.

0:00:17 > 0:00:19And desperation.

0:00:19 > 0:00:21That band shouldn't have been broken up.

0:00:21 > 0:00:24Of musical highs... and lows.

0:00:28 > 0:00:33A story of festival feuds, spats and squabbles.

0:00:33 > 0:00:37This was a jet airliner and they were a Tiger Moth.

0:00:37 > 0:00:41Purists and progressives, mouldy figs and dirty boppers.

0:00:41 > 0:00:44- The jazz police didn't like it. - HE LAUGHS

0:00:44 > 0:00:48Of how young ideals deteriorated into a commercial fad.

0:00:48 > 0:00:53And the forgotten moment when New Orleans jazz became great British pop.

0:00:53 > 0:00:56Get us back to New Orleans, man.

0:00:56 > 0:00:57Chutzpah!

0:01:07 > 0:01:10AIR-RAID SIREN BLARES

0:01:21 > 0:01:26Britain during the Second World War, a time of great uncertainty.

0:01:26 > 0:01:30For a young generation, the music of the day offered little hope.

0:01:30 > 0:01:31You got Music While You Work,

0:01:31 > 0:01:35which was the current popular records of the time,

0:01:35 > 0:01:38which was probably dance bands, I suppose,

0:01:38 > 0:01:40playing whatever new songs there were.

0:01:40 > 0:01:42SUPPER JAZZ MUSIC

0:01:44 > 0:01:47There were the great American swing bands.

0:01:47 > 0:01:54And you got dance bands basing their styles on that sound for dancers.

0:01:54 > 0:01:56But it had no character whatsoever.

0:01:59 > 0:02:03It was a sterile sort of music in terms of jazz.

0:02:03 > 0:02:07I suppose it was just... so predictable.

0:02:12 > 0:02:15For me, it was...my dad's music.

0:02:20 > 0:02:22Mum and Dad waltzed the night away,

0:02:22 > 0:02:26but strict tempo offered little to inspire a generation

0:02:26 > 0:02:29hungering for a music that moved them.

0:02:29 > 0:02:33The murmurings of an alternative began in amateur circles,

0:02:33 > 0:02:37underground cliques of jazz fans called rhythm clubs.

0:02:37 > 0:02:41They were just groups of collectors of gramophone records

0:02:41 > 0:02:43who got together probably once a week.

0:02:43 > 0:02:47These young people were discovering records of music

0:02:47 > 0:02:49that had been half forgotten about

0:02:49 > 0:02:53and much of it hadn't actually been heard in this country.

0:02:56 > 0:02:59These rare 78s became gospels,

0:02:59 > 0:03:03early jazz that held an instant emotional appeal.

0:03:03 > 0:03:08Records by Jelly Roll Morton, King Oliver and Louis Armstrong.

0:03:08 > 0:03:14The music had a freedom to it which we didn't hear in the dance bands.

0:03:14 > 0:03:18You feel it. You can feel it. These guys are not playing off dots.

0:03:18 > 0:03:21So there seemed to be a kind of a zeitgeist

0:03:21 > 0:03:27for looking back at the earlier music that maybe wasn't as sophisticated as all the big bands.

0:03:30 > 0:03:36In 1943, at a pub in a Southeast London suburb, a handful of working-class amateurs

0:03:36 > 0:03:41inspired by the energy and authenticity of this early New Orleans jazz,

0:03:41 > 0:03:44tried to recreate the music live.

0:03:44 > 0:03:47The local dance band musicians

0:03:47 > 0:03:50played their jam sessions

0:03:50 > 0:03:53in The Red Barn at Barnehurst.

0:03:55 > 0:04:00They gave us a turn, but we would hardly play.

0:04:09 > 0:04:12The audience, they went wild.

0:04:12 > 0:04:15They were hearing in the flesh the live music

0:04:15 > 0:04:20that was similar to what they were having on gramophone records.

0:04:20 > 0:04:27And it was just sheer, raw emotion and passion, which they felt.

0:04:29 > 0:04:31It was the first live jazz I'd ever heard.

0:04:31 > 0:04:33As I walked in, they struck up.

0:04:33 > 0:04:35It was a big sound they had, a very big sound.

0:04:35 > 0:04:38And I was, you know, bowled over.

0:04:43 > 0:04:47And after a few months it was really packed.

0:04:47 > 0:04:51That was pretty exciting. It was very exciting, in fact,

0:04:51 > 0:04:56to be hardly starting to play and packing in people.

0:04:56 > 0:04:59That was the first band in this country

0:04:59 > 0:05:02that ever sat down and played,

0:05:02 > 0:05:08copied the...innovators, the Olivers and the Armstrongs

0:05:08 > 0:05:10and the early '20s.

0:05:10 > 0:05:13Nobody else was doing it.

0:05:16 > 0:05:21These ordinary young men, cartoonist, shopkeeper, librarian

0:05:21 > 0:05:26and factory worker started a revival of New Orleans jazz in Britain.

0:05:26 > 0:05:31In May 1945, as the war ended, the George Webb Dixielanders

0:05:31 > 0:05:33made their first recordings.

0:05:33 > 0:05:37The first records we made, we were virtually thrown out of Decca,

0:05:37 > 0:05:40because our technical ability was so poor.

0:05:40 > 0:05:44And the review of the first records when they eventually came out,

0:05:44 > 0:05:46we were condemned for being rough.

0:05:49 > 0:05:54Pro musicians from dance bands had no time for these DIY mavericks,

0:05:54 > 0:05:59but their mockery did little to affect a determined George Webb.

0:05:59 > 0:06:02Feisty little guy, very aggressive.

0:06:02 > 0:06:07I mean, considering he played with clenched fists, he did very well.

0:06:08 > 0:06:11And there was a time when we were playing in a concert

0:06:11 > 0:06:14and the other band was full of professional musicians

0:06:14 > 0:06:19and one of them put his head round the curtain and pulled a face.

0:06:19 > 0:06:21And George just stood up from the piano

0:06:21 > 0:06:27and whacked him straight in the face with his already clenched fist.

0:06:31 > 0:06:36This amateur music attracted a young generation looking to escape

0:06:36 > 0:06:39the musical and social dogmas of post-war life.

0:06:39 > 0:06:43In New Orleans jazz, they heard freedom for the individual.

0:06:43 > 0:06:48Early jazz was of course the ultimate example of nonconformity,

0:06:48 > 0:06:51not having to follow the rules of the older generation.

0:06:51 > 0:06:53It was a way of reinterpreting the rules

0:06:53 > 0:06:55and a way of rebelling against the rules

0:06:55 > 0:06:58without completely destroying everything.

0:07:02 > 0:07:05The 1920s' recordings of King Oliver's Creole Jazz Band

0:07:05 > 0:07:08were a key source for the Dixielanders.

0:07:08 > 0:07:12You know, King Oliver was a gardener at one time in New Orleans,

0:07:12 > 0:07:14he was ignored, what he thought didn't matter,

0:07:14 > 0:07:17he was just an anonymous black man.

0:07:17 > 0:07:20But through the music, he became royalty.

0:07:29 > 0:07:32King Oliver made his first recordings in Chicago,

0:07:32 > 0:07:37featuring a young protege who was set to change music for ever.

0:07:37 > 0:07:41He knew that Armstrong was developing well in New Orleans

0:07:41 > 0:07:45and he invited him to come up to Chicago to join his band.

0:07:45 > 0:07:47In 1923, they made this series of recordings

0:07:47 > 0:07:50that really took jazz from simply a way of playing music

0:07:50 > 0:07:53and elevated it to the level of art from.

0:08:00 > 0:08:04It wasn't long before Louis Armstrong broke free with a group under his own name.

0:08:04 > 0:08:09In 1925, he made the first recordings with his Hot Five.

0:08:09 > 0:08:15In Louis Armstrong you had someone that was becoming a genius,

0:08:15 > 0:08:20someone that was taking this improvised music out of the ensemble

0:08:20 > 0:08:22and developing it as a solo art.

0:08:22 > 0:08:24TRUMPET TRILLS

0:08:28 > 0:08:31Armstrong was a huge influence on a young British trumpet player,

0:08:31 > 0:08:37who'd make a big impact when he joined George Webb's Dixielanders for a gig in Scotland.

0:08:38 > 0:08:41I taught him all the routines on the train journey up there.

0:08:41 > 0:08:47On the way back, I said to George, "If he joins the band, I leave."

0:08:47 > 0:08:49HE LAUGHS

0:08:52 > 0:08:55- He was too good. - HE LAUGHS

0:08:59 > 0:09:02For Old Etonian, Humphrey Lyttelton,

0:09:02 > 0:09:07Jazz offered liberation from the expectations of his formal upbringing.

0:09:07 > 0:09:10His accomplished style took things a step further.

0:09:10 > 0:09:15Suddenly there was somebody playing... Obviously, he was intending to play it right.

0:09:15 > 0:09:18He was actually playing phrases that actually were accurate phrases.

0:09:18 > 0:09:22And some of them, even Louis Armstrong phrases that one could recognise.

0:09:22 > 0:09:23HE HUMS

0:09:23 > 0:09:28Instead of being the slightly stodgy approach that we had...

0:09:28 > 0:09:31HE HUMS

0:09:35 > 0:09:38- He would go... - HE HUMS

0:09:38 > 0:09:40He'd be off, you know.

0:09:45 > 0:09:47The Dixielanders split.

0:09:47 > 0:09:49Humph formed his own band,

0:09:49 > 0:09:53eventually hosting regular club nights at 100 Oxford Street.

0:09:53 > 0:09:58A frustrated generation finally found release in this goodtime music.

0:09:58 > 0:10:02Art school and university students were the first catch on

0:10:02 > 0:10:05and a revivalist scene began to emerge.

0:10:05 > 0:10:09We used to go down and listen to Humph every Saturday and Monday.

0:10:09 > 0:10:12I said, "Can I sing a song with you, Humph?"

0:10:12 > 0:10:17And he gave the absolutely classic answer he gave to anyone

0:10:17 > 0:10:19who wanted to sing with him, "No."

0:10:19 > 0:10:21- And so... - HE LAUGHS

0:10:21 > 0:10:26I noticed he always closed his eyes during his solos,

0:10:26 > 0:10:29so I crept up to the stage and stood by

0:10:29 > 0:10:32while he played the chorus of Dr Jazz

0:10:32 > 0:10:37and then when he reached the last phrase, I jumped up on the stage, grabbed the mic and sang it.

0:10:37 > 0:10:38Chutzpah!

0:10:41 > 0:10:46A long-standing union ban prevented American musicians from playing in Britain,

0:10:46 > 0:10:52but in 1949, New Orleans legend Sydney Bechet was due to appear in France.

0:10:52 > 0:10:56For Lyttelton, it was too good an opportunity to miss.

0:10:56 > 0:10:59We were playing at the Winter Garden Theatre

0:10:59 > 0:11:05and we worked out a way of smuggling Bechet over from Paris,

0:11:05 > 0:11:06putting him in the audience

0:11:06 > 0:11:08and then inviting him onto the stage.

0:11:08 > 0:11:12He was black, he was from New Orleans,

0:11:12 > 0:11:16he had played with Louis Armstrong in the earlier days.

0:11:16 > 0:11:21The spotlight went onto the box and it was Bechet waving at the crowd.

0:11:21 > 0:11:22I thought, "Wow!"

0:11:37 > 0:11:39Unbelievable.

0:11:39 > 0:11:42It was unbelievable.

0:11:42 > 0:11:45No-one knew it was going to be on.

0:11:50 > 0:11:54We had no information and it was...

0:11:54 > 0:11:57And you can imagine that when...

0:11:57 > 0:12:00Sidney Bechet stood up and started playing...

0:12:04 > 0:12:06A magic moment.

0:12:06 > 0:12:07Absolutely magic.

0:12:17 > 0:12:19It was a flouting of the union ban,

0:12:19 > 0:12:22a purposeful rejection of the establishment.

0:12:22 > 0:12:24Organisers were fined heavily,

0:12:24 > 0:12:27but Bechet's appearance was a seal of approval.

0:12:27 > 0:12:31Revivalist jazz took off and bands formed all over Britain.

0:12:31 > 0:12:34It happen like a bushfire.

0:12:34 > 0:12:36It was spontaneous, if you like, all over the country.

0:12:36 > 0:12:39There were The Merseys, the Saints,

0:12:39 > 0:12:41the Yorkshire Jazz Band in the North.

0:12:41 > 0:12:43It was sort of exciting.

0:12:43 > 0:12:47It was far better than being in a bank or something.

0:12:47 > 0:12:49Bands like The Mick Mulligan Band,

0:12:49 > 0:12:51that was like a mobile drinking club, that was.

0:12:51 > 0:12:53HE LAUGHS

0:12:53 > 0:12:58We were terrible boozers and quite randy as well,

0:12:58 > 0:13:02so we had quite a bad reputation, rather like the Stones.

0:13:02 > 0:13:05TRAD JAZZ MUSIC

0:13:06 > 0:13:10But one man begged to differ with the source material.

0:13:10 > 0:13:14For him, the records the revival was based on weren't the pure New Orleans sound.

0:13:14 > 0:13:19Ken Colyer and brother Bill formed their own ramshackle outfit

0:13:19 > 0:13:22called the Crane River Jazz Band.

0:13:22 > 0:13:24We used to drink at The White Hart, Cranford.

0:13:24 > 0:13:26And the punters in the pub

0:13:26 > 0:13:30they were standing at the door listening to the band rehearsing.

0:13:30 > 0:13:33Bill Colyer suggested, "Well, if they're going to stand there,

0:13:33 > 0:13:36"why don't we charge them to come in?"

0:13:36 > 0:13:40Why should they, you know,... get in for free, sort of thing?

0:13:43 > 0:13:46It was quite different what Ken was trying to play as the Cranes

0:13:46 > 0:13:52to a lot of the other revivalist bands here who were copying 1920s' records.

0:13:58 > 0:14:01Colyer based his music on old-time musicians

0:14:01 > 0:14:04who stayed in New Orleans and didn't go to Chicago in the '20s.

0:14:04 > 0:14:08Jazz men like George Lewis and Bunk Johnson

0:14:08 > 0:14:11had only been recorded in the early '40s.

0:14:12 > 0:14:16Back in New Orleans, Bill Russell found Bunk Johnson,

0:14:16 > 0:14:20who had certainly preceded Louis and claimed to have taught him...

0:14:20 > 0:14:23Fitted him up with some spare teeth and dragged him off his tractor

0:14:23 > 0:14:24and got him playing again.

0:14:29 > 0:14:33It's not Louis Armstrong at his most sublime,

0:14:33 > 0:14:36it's basic playing, really.

0:14:36 > 0:14:40Not necessarily very technically able,

0:14:40 > 0:14:43but playing from the heart and moving you.

0:15:04 > 0:15:10Ken thought it was the most perfect example of jazz music.

0:15:10 > 0:15:14A kind of ensemble music where everyone played together

0:15:14 > 0:15:17and there were no real soloists.

0:15:17 > 0:15:21And there was this kind of thing going on in the band that was almost telepathic.

0:15:29 > 0:15:33Colyer called this old-time style, traditional jazz,

0:15:33 > 0:15:37rather than revivalist and a new school of jazz was born.

0:15:37 > 0:15:41A high point for the Cranes was a rather royal affair.

0:15:41 > 0:15:441951 saw the Festival of Britain,

0:15:44 > 0:15:48where all the post-war blues were supposed to be cast off

0:15:48 > 0:15:52and they had a fantastic site on the Southbank.

0:15:52 > 0:15:54This is the Festival.

0:15:55 > 0:15:58Something Britain devised halfway through this century

0:15:58 > 0:16:01as a milestone between past and future

0:16:01 > 0:16:03to enrich and enliven the present.

0:16:03 > 0:16:05They arranged a jazz concert.

0:16:05 > 0:16:07And they had people like the Lyttelton Band,

0:16:07 > 0:16:10the Freddy Randall Band, the Joe Daniels Band,

0:16:10 > 0:16:12the Crane River, the Manchester Saints.

0:16:12 > 0:16:17And that was a changing point in the music, because it became accepted.

0:16:17 > 0:16:19A lady called Princess Elizabeth came along.

0:16:19 > 0:16:22I believe she's done quite well since.

0:16:22 > 0:16:23And she was in the audience, you see.

0:16:23 > 0:16:27- So that was a bit of a prestige thing for jazzers. - HE LAUGHS

0:16:27 > 0:16:31- What did you think, my dear? - Quite remarkable, I thought.

0:16:31 > 0:16:35Couldn't get the hang of some of it at first. Artistic no doubt.

0:16:41 > 0:16:44Even though it had royal approval,

0:16:44 > 0:16:48British jazz was growing in a greenhouse and Colyer hungered for the real thing.

0:16:48 > 0:16:51The Crane River Band split

0:16:51 > 0:16:56and after three months with the Christie Brothers Stompers, he had a revelation.

0:16:56 > 0:17:01These men were still playing in New Orleans, they weren't all that old.

0:17:01 > 0:17:04And they must still be there and still playing,

0:17:04 > 0:17:06so the logical thing was to get there

0:17:06 > 0:17:09while they were still playing.

0:17:09 > 0:17:12And the only way I could think of doing this at the time

0:17:12 > 0:17:14was to rejoin the merchant navy

0:17:14 > 0:17:18and somehow or other find a boat that took me to New Orleans.

0:17:18 > 0:17:21They were looking for crew for this Empire Patria

0:17:21 > 0:17:25which was sailing out of Mobile, Alabama.

0:17:25 > 0:17:29As soon as I heard Mobile, Alabama, "That's near enough!"

0:17:29 > 0:17:30HE LAUGHS

0:17:38 > 0:17:43On 25th November, 1952, Ken jumped ship.

0:17:43 > 0:17:45Slipping away quietly at night,

0:17:45 > 0:17:48he caught a Greyhound bus on a single ticket

0:17:48 > 0:17:50and was in New Orleans by midnight.

0:17:53 > 0:17:56At the Mardi Gras Club on Bourbon Street,

0:17:56 > 0:18:00Colyer heard his heroes live for the very first time.

0:18:00 > 0:18:02TRADITIONAL JAZZ MUSIC

0:18:08 > 0:18:11"The Lewis Band were playing when I walked in.

0:18:11 > 0:18:15"I sat down. Then I ordered a drink and I almost went into a trance.

0:18:15 > 0:18:20"Marrero was about five feet away from me with Drag just behind him.

0:18:20 > 0:18:23"They all play unpretentiously and so wonderfully."

0:18:29 > 0:18:33"Fortunately, I met some friends of the band, the Bernants,

0:18:33 > 0:18:36"and I asked if there was any chance that I could sit in with them

0:18:36 > 0:18:39"and she said, "Of course!"

0:18:39 > 0:18:43"There was Marrero, Slow Drag Pavageau, Alton Purnell,

0:18:43 > 0:18:46"Jim Robinson and George Lewis."

0:18:50 > 0:18:51At Manny's Tavern,

0:18:51 > 0:18:55Colyer sat in with the George Lewis Band for the first time.

0:19:00 > 0:19:04"It's a dream to play with them men, no fighting, no carrying,

0:19:04 > 0:19:09"just sit back relaxed, blowing easy and play the greatest horn of your life.

0:19:09 > 0:19:13"I took the first break and heard Lawrence quickly turn his head

0:19:13 > 0:19:15"and say to George, 'Ain't that Bunk?'

0:19:15 > 0:19:21"I had a big, warm cavern of sunshine in my belly and not a care in the world."

0:19:30 > 0:19:33Ken's journey had led him to a musical paradise

0:19:33 > 0:19:35set in a social hell.

0:19:36 > 0:19:40In the 1950s there was still segregation going on.

0:19:40 > 0:19:43Black people were very limited in their mobility.

0:19:43 > 0:19:46You couldn't go to certain restaurants, clubs,

0:19:46 > 0:19:48bars, public facilities.

0:19:48 > 0:19:53You couldn't stay in certain hotels, you couldn't try on clothes in department stores.

0:19:53 > 0:19:57Black and white water fountains, black and white sides of a lunch counter.

0:19:57 > 0:19:59Even in death, black sides of the cemetery.

0:20:03 > 0:20:06Legally, blacks and whites were not supposed to socialise together.

0:20:06 > 0:20:14So it was actually dangerous for Ken Colyer to go into these bars where black musicians were playing.

0:20:14 > 0:20:18And certainly the idea of pulling out an instrument and sitting in

0:20:18 > 0:20:20and just sitting right next to them and playing like equals,

0:20:20 > 0:20:25I mean, that was a very, very risky and dangerous thing.

0:20:31 > 0:20:3715-year-old American Bill Huntington was well aware of the prejudice.

0:20:37 > 0:20:39He was studying with Lawrence Marrero,

0:20:39 > 0:20:42the banjo player in George Lewis's band.

0:20:43 > 0:20:47He would come out to our house on Sundays

0:20:47 > 0:20:51dressed in a three-piece suit with his banjo.

0:20:51 > 0:20:53And my mother would take his overcoat.

0:20:53 > 0:20:57"Mr Lawrence let me put your coat on the hanger." He would say, "No."

0:20:57 > 0:21:00And he would take his coat and fold it and put it on the floor.

0:21:03 > 0:21:06And then we would invite him to dinner...

0:21:06 > 0:21:09and he wouldn't sit at the table with us.

0:21:09 > 0:21:14He wouldn't, so my parents would make a special table

0:21:14 > 0:21:18for the two of us to sit together.

0:21:23 > 0:21:25You know?

0:21:35 > 0:21:38After staying in New Orleans for just over a month,

0:21:38 > 0:21:43Ken left his house with a view to extending his visa at the local immigration office.

0:21:43 > 0:21:45Things didn't go to plan.

0:21:48 > 0:21:52"I was taken into custody as soon as I had made a sworn statement.

0:21:52 > 0:21:55"It appears I have broken the law by obtaining work here for a start.

0:21:55 > 0:21:59"I'll be kept here now until they find me a ship or deport me.

0:21:59 > 0:22:02"Looks like my luck has run out."

0:22:05 > 0:22:09Dreams were in the dust, but eventually out on bail,

0:22:09 > 0:22:13while awaiting to be deported, Ken fulfilled another ambition.

0:22:13 > 0:22:15Along with Bill Huntington,

0:22:15 > 0:22:19he recorded with New Orleans clarinettist Mealy Barnes.

0:22:21 > 0:22:24We did this recording at Mealy's apartment.

0:22:24 > 0:22:27What I remember is how hot it was.

0:22:27 > 0:22:30And that people from the surrounding apartments

0:22:30 > 0:22:33were coming in to listen to the music.

0:22:33 > 0:22:38And that... I felt, like, scared to death

0:22:38 > 0:22:41but this is wonderful at the same time.

0:22:41 > 0:22:45Scared because I knew the implications of us all being together.

0:22:45 > 0:22:48And I remember that Albert Glenny was there.

0:22:48 > 0:22:50He passed out during the recording session.

0:22:50 > 0:22:54And they had to call an ambulance.

0:22:54 > 0:22:59And all the white people had to get out of the neighbourhood immediately.

0:22:59 > 0:23:04Because they were aware that the police would come and if they saw us all mixing together,

0:23:04 > 0:23:06there would be a big problem with that.

0:23:06 > 0:23:09SHIP'S HORN

0:23:18 > 0:23:23You know, after hearing such a wide selection of jazz over the years,

0:23:23 > 0:23:26I finally resolved to the New Orleans style.

0:23:26 > 0:23:29I felt that was the essence of the thing.

0:23:29 > 0:23:31I still think it is.

0:23:39 > 0:23:43In early March 1953, Ken was deported back to England.

0:23:43 > 0:23:45A young Chris Barber,

0:23:45 > 0:23:47who'd recently formed his first professional band,

0:23:47 > 0:23:49was waiting for him.

0:23:49 > 0:23:52When you get deported, they send you first class.

0:23:52 > 0:23:55On the best liner in the world, it was.

0:23:55 > 0:23:57HE LAUGHS

0:24:01 > 0:24:04Chris Barber was looking for a new trumpet player.

0:24:04 > 0:24:08Together with Monty Sunshine and the then Tony Donegan,

0:24:08 > 0:24:13they became Ken Colyer's Jazzmen and made a groundbreaking record.

0:24:15 > 0:24:17New Orleans to London, 1953.

0:24:17 > 0:24:20I love to hear it because I enjoyed it so much.

0:24:20 > 0:24:22It was beautiful music to make.

0:24:22 > 0:24:25There's one tune on here called The Isle Of Capri.

0:24:27 > 0:24:29Let's see if I can make it start at the right place.

0:24:31 > 0:24:32There, got it.

0:24:32 > 0:24:34MUSIC STARTS

0:24:43 > 0:24:48It's a record that...began my professional life, just about.

0:24:48 > 0:24:51And I'm still proud of it when I hear it.

0:24:57 > 0:25:01What Ken Colyer introduced with Chris Barber

0:25:01 > 0:25:05was the pianoless sound, which for us,

0:25:05 > 0:25:08that was something fresh and new.

0:25:18 > 0:25:22Together they had created a brand-new British sound.

0:25:22 > 0:25:25But Ken and Chris had opposite ideas.

0:25:25 > 0:25:31Chris was much more meticulous in his approach.

0:25:31 > 0:25:33Ken was more traditional.

0:25:33 > 0:25:36Don't rehearse too much, you know.

0:25:36 > 0:25:39Let it all hang out sort of thing.

0:25:41 > 0:25:44In little over a year, tensions came to a head.

0:25:44 > 0:25:47Ken's brother Bill was managing the band.

0:25:47 > 0:25:50Bill finally broke the band up in front of Ken.

0:25:50 > 0:25:52Ken's standing there, not saying a word, he never did.

0:25:52 > 0:25:55He had the opposite of gift of the gab.

0:25:55 > 0:25:59And Bill just said, "Ken and I are not happy with how things are going."

0:25:59 > 0:26:01He fired the rhythm section. Ron Boyden was too modern,

0:26:01 > 0:26:06Jim Bray didn't swing and they hated Lonnie's guts.

0:26:06 > 0:26:08So, of course, Chris piped up and said,

0:26:08 > 0:26:13"Ken is in no position to sack anybody in this band.

0:26:13 > 0:26:16"It's not his band. It's his name but it's not his band."

0:26:16 > 0:26:20And then Chris said to Bill, "WE are going to sack HIM."

0:26:25 > 0:26:28They found a tape of that band from about a month before we broke up.

0:26:28 > 0:26:31I heard that back, I cried,

0:26:31 > 0:26:34because that band shouldn't have been broken up.

0:26:34 > 0:26:37HE SOBS

0:26:37 > 0:26:40It was... To play with that band was perfect.

0:26:48 > 0:26:51Ken and Chris went their separate ways.

0:26:51 > 0:26:55This new traditional jazz drew more young fans into the fold

0:26:55 > 0:26:58and was cutting across class divides.

0:26:58 > 0:27:04Around Soho, cellar clubs and late-night dives throbbed with young, sweaty jivers.

0:27:09 > 0:27:10Ow! Oh.

0:27:12 > 0:27:15Windmill Theatre. And our rehearsal rooms.

0:27:15 > 0:27:18Cy Laurie moved in. Band leader, played the clarinet,

0:27:18 > 0:27:22and he ran an all-nighter every Saturday night for some time.

0:27:27 > 0:27:32Can't see a number. 44 was right over here somewhere.

0:27:32 > 0:27:36One of those there. Now it's fresh meat and fish, chilled and frozen foods.

0:27:36 > 0:27:39And that same premises...

0:27:39 > 0:27:4461 years ago when I played in it... was a jazz club.

0:27:49 > 0:27:52Now this was Studio 51.

0:27:52 > 0:27:55Which became Ken Colyer's club.

0:27:55 > 0:27:57I played there about a year before he started there.

0:27:58 > 0:27:59A very long time ago.

0:28:15 > 0:28:18Wow! The 100 Club. Dear me.

0:28:18 > 0:28:21TRAD JAZZ MUSIC

0:28:24 > 0:28:28I think the stage came across from about there to here. It was quite big.

0:28:30 > 0:28:34There and back to...here.

0:28:37 > 0:28:39And it was quite... About this high.

0:28:41 > 0:28:45All I wanted to be was a part of the movement that is traditional jazz...

0:28:45 > 0:28:50a part of it, not an outsider playing a bit of it or imitating it, but being in it.

0:28:54 > 0:28:58But alongside this scene, a rival movement had developed...

0:28:58 > 0:28:59modern jazz.

0:28:59 > 0:29:01BEBOP MUSIC

0:29:04 > 0:29:07This was jazz from New York.

0:29:07 > 0:29:11It was harmonically extended, high-speed and heavily improvised.

0:29:11 > 0:29:14At that time, bebop was roaring.

0:29:14 > 0:29:18New York, 52nd Street, Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie's Big Band,

0:29:18 > 0:29:20the whole street was rocking.

0:29:23 > 0:29:29British musicians like Ronnie Scott and John Dankworth had been digging this contemporary jazz.

0:29:29 > 0:29:33It was the antithesis of the New Orleans sound.

0:29:33 > 0:29:39Dixieland had a definite, sweet, deliberate, non-offensive line,

0:29:39 > 0:29:46as it were, and we were exploiting the "urhh, eeeh", all those things to stop and make you think.

0:29:48 > 0:29:52The squabbles within the traditional jazz scene were nothing compared

0:29:52 > 0:29:55to the war between them and the British beboppers.

0:29:55 > 0:29:58It was called bebop because it went, "ba-boomp".

0:29:58 > 0:30:01"Ba-doodle-di-ba-doodle-ba-bomp."

0:30:01 > 0:30:05"Loo-ba-bop-la-loo-ka-mop That's Professor Bop."

0:30:05 > 0:30:08# There's a cat in Harlem town

0:30:08 > 0:30:10# Got a new craze going round

0:30:10 > 0:30:12# Ooh-be-da-bla-hey-ya-vop

0:30:12 > 0:30:14# Call Professor Bop... #

0:30:14 > 0:30:19The war is over, the world's going forward, we're heralding it with

0:30:19 > 0:30:22this great music, this pull towards something.

0:30:22 > 0:30:24Didn't quite know where it was going

0:30:24 > 0:30:27but it wasn't going backwards, it was going forwards.

0:30:27 > 0:30:32Forward to what? To a rhythm section that doesn't swing? It didn't.

0:30:32 > 0:30:37It was modern, but anything modern, "We don't want that.

0:30:37 > 0:30:39"Get back to New Orleans, man."

0:30:39 > 0:30:43We dressed in suits. A zoot suit with a reet pleat.

0:30:43 > 0:30:47A big... It had to be...

0:30:47 > 0:30:49You had to be cool.

0:30:49 > 0:30:55Quite different to the sandals and the hairy shirts of the traditionalists.

0:30:56 > 0:31:01This was a jet airliner and they were a tiger moth.

0:31:01 > 0:31:04PROPELLER RATTLES

0:31:04 > 0:31:07PLANES DRONE

0:31:07 > 0:31:10INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC

0:31:15 > 0:31:18The boundaries of traditional jazz were set.

0:31:18 > 0:31:22At Birmingham Town Hall, in a bid for progress, Humphrey Lyttelton

0:31:22 > 0:31:26invited saxophonist Bruce Turner to join his band.

0:31:27 > 0:31:31So we had an alto sax instead of a trombone. "Hey..."

0:31:33 > 0:31:36"This is disgraceful(!)"

0:31:42 > 0:31:45In the middle of the concert, Bruce Turner came in

0:31:45 > 0:31:47and played the saxophone.

0:31:47 > 0:31:52They stood up with a banner which said, "Go home, dirty bopper."

0:31:52 > 0:31:54Which he'd never been.

0:31:59 > 0:32:03For avid traditionalists, the sax was an icon of the modern movement

0:32:03 > 0:32:06and had no place in a true New Orleans-style band.

0:32:06 > 0:32:12Humph had defected, but in 1956 his Bad Penny Blues became

0:32:12 > 0:32:14the first jazz track to make the top 20.

0:32:14 > 0:32:17It so happened that the first of what I call

0:32:17 > 0:32:21the creative sound mixers...

0:32:21 > 0:32:24Joe Meek, came in,

0:32:24 > 0:32:28and being Joe Meek, he fiddled about with everything.

0:32:28 > 0:32:30I went off on holiday for about three weeks

0:32:30 > 0:32:34and I hadn't heard it then,

0:32:34 > 0:32:37and if I'd heard what Joe Meek had done to it, he distorted

0:32:37 > 0:32:39the bottom end of the piano,

0:32:39 > 0:32:41so that it made a sort of bonging noise.

0:32:44 > 0:32:46Pianos don't go, "Bong-om-bong-om-bong."

0:32:48 > 0:32:53And he heavily over-recorded Stan Greig's brushes.

0:32:53 > 0:32:55"Boom-phrum-phroom-phrum."

0:32:58 > 0:33:02If I'd heard a test pressing in time, I would have rung up whoever

0:33:02 > 0:33:08produced the record at EMI and said, "I don't want that to go out."

0:33:10 > 0:33:12However, by the time I got back from holiday,

0:33:12 > 0:33:15it was number 19 and I shut up.

0:33:23 > 0:33:26INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC

0:33:27 > 0:33:30Meanwhile, Chris Barber was also

0:33:30 > 0:33:32kicking against the traditional jazz boundaries

0:33:32 > 0:33:36and had discovered a young Irish girl with a remarkable voice.

0:33:36 > 0:33:41Ottilie Patterson was the best blues singer of either sex

0:33:41 > 0:33:45ever produced by, not just Britain, Europe.

0:33:45 > 0:33:49# I'm feeling so down-hearted

0:33:49 > 0:33:53# Ain't ever felt so blue

0:33:53 > 0:33:56# I've done spent all my money... #

0:33:56 > 0:34:01This petite lady singing in that style, but in her own way,

0:34:01 > 0:34:07and she got inside it and there's been no-one like her.

0:34:13 > 0:34:17The other people singing traditional jazz at that time had no timbre,

0:34:17 > 0:34:18no tone, no phrasing.

0:34:18 > 0:34:21What else can you not have?

0:34:23 > 0:34:26The recording of hers that's best, seriously,

0:34:26 > 0:34:29is the one where they'd all play with the band, doing St Louis Blues.

0:34:29 > 0:34:31I'll tell you what.

0:34:31 > 0:34:35If you weren't a serious student of it, of the style,

0:34:35 > 0:34:39and someone said to you, "That's Mavis Staples," you'd say, "OK, it is."

0:34:39 > 0:34:41HE SCOFFS

0:34:44 > 0:34:50That's the absolute perfection, singing, that is. Really great.

0:34:50 > 0:34:56# I-II hate to see

0:34:57 > 0:35:05# That old evening sun go down... #

0:35:10 > 0:35:13The Barber band also sparked a new teenage craze,

0:35:13 > 0:35:16which tapped even further into jazz's amateur roots.

0:35:18 > 0:35:21In between sets, they thrashed out old American folk songs

0:35:21 > 0:35:23and called it skiffle.

0:35:23 > 0:35:26They put the skiffle group number into the show,

0:35:26 > 0:35:29which would be a couple of guitars usually.

0:35:29 > 0:35:33Chris would move onto the bass, which was his other instrument,

0:35:33 > 0:35:35and a washboard perhaps.

0:35:35 > 0:35:38People were staying in during the interval rather than go out during the interval

0:35:38 > 0:35:41because of the skiffle group. It became popular in that way.

0:35:42 > 0:35:45For the skiffle numbers - Tony, now Lonnie Donegan -

0:35:45 > 0:35:47took centre stage.

0:35:47 > 0:35:50To all intents and purposes, Lonnie Donegan started the craze.

0:35:50 > 0:35:55He was fearless with an audience, which is a special quality.

0:35:55 > 0:35:58# I fooled you, I fooled you... #

0:35:58 > 0:36:04Lonnie had showmanship and a personality that came across the footlights.

0:36:04 > 0:36:06# Did I tell you where I'm goin', boy?

0:36:06 > 0:36:07# Where are you going, boy? #

0:36:07 > 0:36:11It was like turbo-charged folk music.

0:36:11 > 0:36:13# Well the Rock Island line

0:36:13 > 0:36:14# She's a mighty good road

0:36:14 > 0:36:16# The Rock Island line is the road to ride

0:36:16 > 0:36:18# The Rock Island line is a mighty good road

0:36:18 > 0:36:19# And if you want to ride

0:36:19 > 0:36:21# You've got to ride it like you find it

0:36:21 > 0:36:24# Get your ticket at the station on the Rock Island line... #

0:36:24 > 0:36:28When Rock Island Line hit the charts in '56, all the groups started

0:36:28 > 0:36:33listening to that kind of music and emulating or trying to copy Lonnie.

0:36:33 > 0:36:37It was some new sound and it was accessible.

0:36:37 > 0:36:39# You've got to ride it like you find it

0:36:39 > 0:36:40# Get your ticket at the station

0:36:40 > 0:36:43# On the Rock Island Line... #

0:36:44 > 0:36:47You would get a tea chest and a broom handle

0:36:47 > 0:36:52and a bit of string and something else, and you had a skiffle group.

0:36:52 > 0:36:53Now we'll try playing it.

0:36:53 > 0:36:56THRUMMING

0:36:58 > 0:37:03Skiffle broke free and became its own DIY '50s phenomenon.

0:37:03 > 0:37:06One instrument was free and ready-made.

0:37:06 > 0:37:08You can scrub it or beat it.

0:37:08 > 0:37:10Beryl Bryden used to play it across her chest.

0:37:10 > 0:37:12RHYTHMIC RATTLING

0:37:12 > 0:37:15Like that. When I do a solo I put it between my legs

0:37:15 > 0:37:16and I use both sides.

0:37:20 > 0:37:23She often used to sit in with jazz bands, sometimes to their annoyance,

0:37:23 > 0:37:26but much more often to the audience's pleasure.

0:37:26 > 0:37:29RHYTHMIC RATTLING

0:37:30 > 0:37:32I hated it.

0:37:32 > 0:37:34HE WHEEZES

0:37:35 > 0:37:38Meanwhile, Britain was getting richer.

0:37:38 > 0:37:42Home luxuries that were previously unaffordable became commonplace.

0:37:42 > 0:37:45Washing machines, electronic coffee grinders,

0:37:45 > 0:37:47state-of-the-art hairdryers,

0:37:47 > 0:37:51blenders you could buff kitchens with.

0:37:51 > 0:37:55Frost-proof houses, and the occasional bottle of champagne.

0:37:55 > 0:37:58ARCHIVE VOICEOVER: 'That isn't champagne, it's a "sham bottle".'

0:38:02 > 0:38:07Along with this era of mass consumption came another new music.

0:38:07 > 0:38:10# We're going to rock around the clock tonight

0:38:10 > 0:38:11# Put your glad rags on

0:38:11 > 0:38:14# Join me, hon We'll have some fun

0:38:14 > 0:38:15# When the clock strikes one... #

0:38:15 > 0:38:20'I don't think too much of rock 'n' roll. I think it's a bit samey.'

0:38:20 > 0:38:24But it didn't bother us, we just went on playing our jazz.

0:38:24 > 0:38:28For jazz fans, rock 'n' roll was a poor man's 12-bar blues.

0:38:28 > 0:38:32In 1956, they weren't interested in Bill Haley.

0:38:32 > 0:38:38A relaxing of the union ban saw their hero set foot on British soil.

0:38:38 > 0:38:43Just like one of them old home weeks, the homecoming, all the cats from the years

0:38:43 > 0:38:45when I first came here.

0:38:45 > 0:38:48Blowing out there, just brings back old memories.

0:38:48 > 0:38:52- Pretty solid, do you think? - Yes, more than that.

0:38:52 > 0:38:54Anyway I would say great, personified.

0:38:54 > 0:38:56LAUGHTER

0:38:56 > 0:38:59INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC

0:39:04 > 0:39:08'First time I met him, it was at a dinner in his honour.

0:39:08 > 0:39:14'We ate the meal with Louis, then there was a jam session. Terrific bloke.'

0:39:14 > 0:39:17I took my courage in both hands

0:39:17 > 0:39:20and walked up to Louis and said,

0:39:20 > 0:39:25"Mr Armstrong, is there any one tip

0:39:25 > 0:39:28"you can give me about band leading?"

0:39:28 > 0:39:34And the great man thought for a few seconds and then said, "Yes, Daddy, never do it for nothing."

0:39:34 > 0:39:36HE LAUGHS

0:39:45 > 0:39:47The gates were open.

0:39:47 > 0:39:49Many jazz and blues greats followed

0:39:49 > 0:39:52and British jazz was endorsed by the gods.

0:40:09 > 0:40:11CND, the Campaign For Nuclear Disarmament,

0:40:11 > 0:40:15is founded in 1958 as a public response

0:40:15 > 0:40:17in protest at the development

0:40:17 > 0:40:21of these super-destructive nuclear weapons.

0:40:24 > 0:40:26When the CND started,

0:40:26 > 0:40:28jazz musicians in bulk followed that movement.

0:40:33 > 0:40:37'On the political demonstrations, it's actually not so much folk,'

0:40:37 > 0:40:42it's New Orleans jazz, which is the music of choice.

0:40:43 > 0:40:47There was no doubt about it that most of us were

0:40:47 > 0:40:49decidedly left-wing.

0:40:49 > 0:40:54'You get Webb's Dixielanders having early gigs put on by the Young Communist League,

0:40:54 > 0:40:58'you get Ken Colyer, The Crane River Band, 1951, they go off to East Berlin

0:40:58 > 0:41:00'to play at Communist rallies.'

0:41:00 > 0:41:05So there's this real link of left-wing sympathies with

0:41:05 > 0:41:09what's seen as this new grassroots, democratic, accessible,

0:41:09 > 0:41:12collectively-oriented musical practice.

0:41:15 > 0:41:18The Aldermaston march was the perfect opportunity

0:41:18 > 0:41:21for Ken Colyer's Omega Brass Band,

0:41:21 > 0:41:25inspired by the jazz funerals he'd witnessed in New Orleans.

0:41:25 > 0:41:28SOMBRE MUSIC PLAYS

0:41:35 > 0:41:40As the body came out, the brass band would play a slow dirge.

0:41:46 > 0:41:50And right before they get to the graveyard, the band would split up

0:41:50 > 0:41:54on both sides of the street, and let the hearse through.

0:41:55 > 0:42:01After the body is dismissed, then they start the happy, up-tempo

0:42:01 > 0:42:03joyous music and second line dancing.

0:42:03 > 0:42:05UPBEAT MUSIC PLAYS

0:42:08 > 0:42:12'And the true spirit of what that was all about,

0:42:12 > 0:42:18'the idea of sending someone off to a better place, to true freedom,'

0:42:18 > 0:42:20that was a time for happiness and joy.

0:42:25 > 0:42:29This spirit of freedom and community and the jazz of New Orleans

0:42:29 > 0:42:33resonated with the ideals of the marchers at Aldermaston.

0:42:33 > 0:42:36Colyer, as always, kept things authentic.

0:42:36 > 0:42:38'The costumes were based on'

0:42:38 > 0:42:40white shirt, black trousers,

0:42:40 > 0:42:42white hats, New Orleans.

0:42:42 > 0:42:47Ken knew somebody that worked on the buses and we got bus conductors' hats.

0:42:50 > 0:42:54There was always someone who could help you out.

0:42:54 > 0:42:56You want to know why we came here?

0:42:56 > 0:43:00The simple reason is we are lovers of good music, for one thing,

0:43:00 > 0:43:02and if this hell of a lot goes up,

0:43:02 > 0:43:04we're not likely to hear good music any more.

0:43:09 > 0:43:12INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC PLAYS

0:43:12 > 0:43:16While Colyer persisted with purism, Chris Barber was making early appearances

0:43:16 > 0:43:20on BBC TV, swinging on the Six-Five Special

0:43:20 > 0:43:24and traditional jazz was more popular than ever.

0:43:24 > 0:43:28Jazz clubs had got bigger and bigger and bigger

0:43:28 > 0:43:31'and were making more and more money.'

0:43:31 > 0:43:33There were so many bands about

0:43:33 > 0:43:35you could hear it anywhere you wanted, really.

0:43:35 > 0:43:37All over the country.

0:43:46 > 0:43:49By 1959, jazz was ripe,

0:43:49 > 0:43:52and Britain's rock 'n' roll explosion was fizzling out.

0:43:52 > 0:43:57Clarinettist Monty Sunshine copied an old Sidney Bechet record

0:43:57 > 0:43:59and took the tune to Chris.

0:43:59 > 0:44:02Monty played this tune. It was in A flat minor.

0:44:02 > 0:44:05We found out that Monty's record player played fast.

0:44:06 > 0:44:09Bechet played it in G minor, but we had the hit.

0:44:16 > 0:44:19It might have been in the wrong key,

0:44:19 > 0:44:21but it was a watershed moment.

0:44:21 > 0:44:24In 1959, Petite Fleur hit the top ten,

0:44:24 > 0:44:27heralding the start of a boom in popularity

0:44:27 > 0:44:29and traditional jazz got a new name.

0:44:29 > 0:44:34'We had a recording contract with a guy called Denis Preston.'

0:44:34 > 0:44:39He said, "We need a short name that rolls off the tongue

0:44:39 > 0:44:46"so that people don't have to say this is traditional jazz music."

0:44:46 > 0:44:50The next time we had a record out, there was the word "Trad" on it.

0:44:50 > 0:44:56Trad is a suitable name for a soap powder, not for music.

0:44:56 > 0:44:59The jazz police didn't like it. HE CHUCKLES

0:45:05 > 0:45:07If Terry Lightfoot gave trad its moniker,

0:45:07 > 0:45:11it was a West Country chum who gave it a trademark image.

0:45:11 > 0:45:15- ARCHIVE VOICE-OVER:- 'Acker Bilk. Sorry, Mr Acker Bilk.'

0:45:15 > 0:45:19There was a bloke called Peter Leslie.

0:45:19 > 0:45:20He was a publicity guy.

0:45:20 > 0:45:25He said, "What about a bowler hat and waistcoat and spats?"

0:45:25 > 0:45:29I drew the line at that. I said, "I don't want any spats on."

0:45:29 > 0:45:32INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC

0:45:34 > 0:45:37The uniforms came in for a record cover.

0:45:39 > 0:45:42The promoters then said, "We want the band as seen."

0:45:44 > 0:45:46So we had to wear these bloody uniforms.

0:45:46 > 0:45:51But, of course, Acker being the quality player he was,

0:45:51 > 0:45:54could back it up with his solo things.

0:45:54 > 0:45:59MUSIC: "Stranger On The Shore" by Acker Bilk

0:46:05 > 0:46:07I wrote it and called it Jenny after my daughter.

0:46:07 > 0:46:11She was born about that time, a bit earlier.

0:46:12 > 0:46:17And... It went on a TV show, I think, didn't it?

0:46:21 > 0:46:26The TV drama, Stranger On The Shore, was perfect publicity for Acker.

0:46:26 > 0:46:31The theme tune was a number one hit in both the UK and USA.

0:46:32 > 0:46:37As a solo piece, it's superb. The tone is marvellous.

0:46:37 > 0:46:39The tone, I don't really understand.

0:46:39 > 0:46:42I don't know. I just blew a clarinet and that was it.

0:46:42 > 0:46:47I didn't go to lessons or anything. I just blew it.

0:46:47 > 0:46:50I haven't got any teeth in the front, maybe that helps.

0:46:53 > 0:46:56APPLAUSE

0:46:56 > 0:47:00Acker and his huge success and popularity was the reason for

0:47:00 > 0:47:05so many bands adopting the idea of uniforms to attract attention

0:47:05 > 0:47:06and create work.

0:47:06 > 0:47:09INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC

0:47:11 > 0:47:15Some of the creations that they came up with!

0:47:17 > 0:47:21We were Mississippi gamblers. There were lots of others. Dick Charlesworth was City Gents.

0:47:22 > 0:47:25Bowler hats and waistcoats.

0:47:27 > 0:47:31Bobby Mickleburgh had a band dressed as Confederates.

0:47:31 > 0:47:33The culmination of it for me was I actually saw

0:47:33 > 0:47:38a band on television called the Louis XIV Jazz Band.

0:47:38 > 0:47:44These sons of bitches were all dressed up in French frock coats and playing... Oh, man!

0:47:48 > 0:47:50Trad jazz became pop.

0:47:50 > 0:47:53It was the sound to let your hair down to

0:47:53 > 0:47:57and Acker's trademark bowler was a must-have accessory.

0:47:57 > 0:48:01Over five years, Beaulieu Jazz Festival swelled from hundreds to

0:48:01 > 0:48:06thousands of ravers and in 1960 trad and modern fans clashed.

0:48:06 > 0:48:11We were on a big stage with a tent on the top.

0:48:11 > 0:48:13Some guy got on the stage.

0:48:13 > 0:48:15Of course, all of them got up there then,

0:48:15 > 0:48:18a lot of them climbing up the pole and on the roof...

0:48:18 > 0:48:24Above us here we had a lighting scaffold which is no longer.

0:48:24 > 0:48:26That folded up literally with the pressure of bodies.

0:48:26 > 0:48:28Is that what I see behind me here?

0:48:28 > 0:48:31The shambles is over here. This has all been dismantled now.

0:48:31 > 0:48:35If you think of one subcultural group fighting against another one,

0:48:35 > 0:48:38usually you think of mods versus rockers.

0:48:38 > 0:48:44'What you don't think about is trad jazz fans versus modern jazz fans.

0:48:44 > 0:48:47'It's jazz music. What's the problem here? Why are we fighting?'

0:48:47 > 0:48:51The music really, really mattered to them at that time.

0:48:51 > 0:48:54Mad about jazz. That's how you can put it. Mad.

0:48:54 > 0:48:56Would you say you are madder about jazz than about sex?

0:48:56 > 0:49:00Yes, if it came to it, honestly I would prefer jazz than sex.

0:49:00 > 0:49:03INSTRUMENTAL MUSIC

0:49:06 > 0:49:10The master of turning jazz into pop was a moustachioed trumpet ace

0:49:10 > 0:49:13who'd cut his teeth playing with Sid Phillips.

0:49:18 > 0:49:21He was a fantastic trumpet player.

0:49:21 > 0:49:24He had that natural feel for jazz trumpet playing

0:49:24 > 0:49:29in the Dixieland style, which in a sense made him unique.

0:49:29 > 0:49:32Kenny Ball had a trad trick. Take a strong tune,

0:49:32 > 0:49:36give it the trad treatment and you've got yourself a hit.

0:49:36 > 0:49:40His most famous record had a rather strange source.

0:49:40 > 0:49:43It was a traditional Russian folk song.

0:49:43 > 0:49:47It was the theme tune for the Russian radio.

0:49:47 > 0:49:50CHORAL MUSIC

0:49:53 > 0:49:56HE HUMS

0:49:59 > 0:50:03We were in Belarus, we played it there, and they didn't

0:50:03 > 0:50:07like the Russians, and we were told to cut it out of the programme.

0:50:07 > 0:50:12But we thought playing a Russian folksong, they'd love it.

0:50:21 > 0:50:25Midnight In Moscow was a copyright-free money-spinner.

0:50:25 > 0:50:28By 1962, even the films cashed in on the boom.

0:50:28 > 0:50:32Anything with a banjo was co-opted under the trad banner.

0:50:32 > 0:50:36Surrealist art-schoolers, The Temperance Seven, slipped into the bracket

0:50:36 > 0:50:40with their mixture of Victoriana and 1920s' dance music.

0:50:40 > 0:50:43It wasn't really a pose.

0:50:43 > 0:50:46We drove these old cars, dressed this way all the time,

0:50:46 > 0:50:49happily evading reality to a time when...

0:50:51 > 0:50:53..it seemed the world was a kinder place.

0:50:54 > 0:50:58# Sugar, that's what I'll name you

0:50:58 > 0:51:00# Sugar... #

0:51:00 > 0:51:02We played these art school dances and we were booed,

0:51:02 > 0:51:04and pelted with toilet rolls.

0:51:04 > 0:51:06So we kept changing our name.

0:51:06 > 0:51:08We started off as Paul McDowell And His Jazzmen,

0:51:08 > 0:51:11and then the next gig we called ourselves

0:51:11 > 0:51:14Grover And His Bicycling Jazz Aces,

0:51:14 > 0:51:17and the people who saw it was the same band were furious.

0:51:17 > 0:51:21# Skiddy-iddy-iddy-iddy Iddy-iddy-iddy-iddy... #

0:51:21 > 0:51:27The Temperance Seven's first hit was produced by a young George Martin.

0:51:27 > 0:51:31The record was You're Driving Me Crazy.

0:51:31 > 0:51:35# You, you're driving me crazy

0:51:36 > 0:51:41# What did I do to you? #

0:51:41 > 0:51:48I think not only to his surprise, but our surprise, it was a number one.

0:51:48 > 0:51:53Gave George Martin his first number one long before The Beatles.

0:51:58 > 0:52:02The Temperance Seven took the Britishness of trad to the extreme.

0:52:02 > 0:52:05They whetted our insatiable appetites for novelty and pantomime.

0:52:05 > 0:52:07Denatured and kitsch,

0:52:07 > 0:52:12trad was a long way from the revivalist streams of New Orleans.

0:52:12 > 0:52:18The two forms of music I hate the most is rap and English trad.

0:52:18 > 0:52:19Oh, man!

0:52:19 > 0:52:24Unless you really copy New Orleans jazz from New Orleans,

0:52:24 > 0:52:28really copy it note for note, you're not going to get the same sound.

0:52:28 > 0:52:30Especially being British.

0:52:30 > 0:52:34They are 6,000 miles away from the real McCoy,

0:52:34 > 0:52:37and the difference, you could tell an English band a mile off.

0:52:37 > 0:52:39I can, even today.

0:52:39 > 0:52:40Different beat.

0:52:40 > 0:52:45# Over in the glory land

0:52:45 > 0:52:50# I hear that happy angels' band

0:52:51 > 0:52:56# Over there in glory land. #

0:52:58 > 0:53:03You see, you are using two beats on that bass drum, not four beats.

0:53:03 > 0:53:07But in the English band, they would be "ba-ba-ba-boom."

0:53:07 > 0:53:10I don't know what they'd be doing.

0:53:14 > 0:53:19In spite of criticism, the trad fad looked set to soundtrack the '60s,

0:53:19 > 0:53:23but with every pop scene, there is another hot on its heels.

0:53:23 > 0:53:26There was a cool Liverpudlian breeze in the air.

0:53:28 > 0:53:32'We used to play the Cavern. The Cavern was originally a jazz club.'

0:53:32 > 0:53:37They used to have skiffle bands during the interval which were the local musicians.

0:53:39 > 0:53:41We went out, you go out for a beer,

0:53:41 > 0:53:48and we came back and I saw a drum kit with BEAT - big -

0:53:48 > 0:53:52and L-E-S, small.

0:53:52 > 0:53:55Beat. You know, beat.

0:53:55 > 0:54:00I read it as a French band. Les Beats, right?

0:54:00 > 0:54:03Really. And I thought, "Oh, Lord."

0:54:05 > 0:54:10The next time we went there... they played the first set.

0:54:11 > 0:54:15The next time we went there, WE played the first set

0:54:15 > 0:54:16and we never went there after that.

0:54:16 > 0:54:19# Love, love me do

0:54:19 > 0:54:23# You know I love you

0:54:23 > 0:54:25# I'll always be true

0:54:25 > 0:54:30# So, please

0:54:30 > 0:54:33# Love me do... #

0:54:33 > 0:54:38The agents who were making a lot of money out of traditional jazz,

0:54:38 > 0:54:43suddenly became uncontactable when The Beatles came along.

0:54:46 > 0:54:50Trad was middle-aged and a new generation with electric

0:54:50 > 0:54:54instruments and slightly more sex appeal took over the pop scene.

0:54:54 > 0:54:58Many jazz bands folded or went back to the pubs and clubs,

0:54:58 > 0:55:02but for some there was always a variety spot on Saturday night TV.

0:55:02 > 0:55:05# There's a tavern in the town

0:55:05 > 0:55:07# In the town

0:55:07 > 0:55:10# Where my true love sits him down

0:55:10 > 0:55:11# Sits him down

0:55:11 > 0:55:16# I'm going to hang my heart on a weeping willow tree

0:55:16 > 0:55:20# And may all the world go well with thee... #

0:55:20 > 0:55:24My band of that time was the most broadcast

0:55:24 > 0:55:27'and televised band in the country.'

0:55:27 > 0:55:31So it didn't completely disappear.

0:55:31 > 0:55:34- Ladies and gentlemen, it's Kenny Ball.- Are you sure?- Yes.

0:55:34 > 0:55:36APPLAUSE

0:55:38 > 0:55:42MUSIC PLAYS

0:55:44 > 0:55:47We done five years with The Morecambe And Wise Show.

0:55:47 > 0:55:50'Only playing one number every night, but it was'

0:55:50 > 0:55:52an audience of about 20 million.

0:55:52 > 0:55:55- There'll be nothing permissive in this show tonight.- You want to bet?

0:55:55 > 0:55:59- I do.- You look over there. Kenny Ball. Go on.

0:55:59 > 0:56:01LAUGHTER

0:56:03 > 0:56:08You'd be stood behind the piano with our top halves showing

0:56:08 > 0:56:12and it looked as though we were standing there knacker-naked.

0:56:12 > 0:56:15- Horrifying that, isn't it? - Horrifying? It's disgusting.

0:56:15 > 0:56:18- Looks like a butcher's shop. - LAUGHTER

0:56:22 > 0:56:27Trad became an entertainment staple, homogenised and showbiz..

0:56:27 > 0:56:31With Ottilie, Chris Barber moved more towards R&B.

0:56:31 > 0:56:36For him, the commercial hijacking of jazz was Frankenstein's monster.

0:56:36 > 0:56:40It began to turn into kind of a Chas & Dave sort of jazz. You know?

0:56:42 > 0:56:45APPLAUSE

0:56:49 > 0:56:52MUSIC PLAYS

0:56:56 > 0:56:59One man remained steadfast in his purism,

0:56:59 > 0:57:04continuing a lifelong quest for the true New Orleans sound.

0:57:07 > 0:57:09Ken was no Kenny Ball.

0:57:09 > 0:57:14Kenny Ball could absolutely be your Saturday night entertainer.

0:57:14 > 0:57:18Ken, not in a million years.

0:57:18 > 0:57:23Certainly the trad boat sailed and Ken was not on it.

0:57:30 > 0:57:33Although one of the pioneers of British jazz,

0:57:33 > 0:57:38Ken Colyer remained uncompromising to the end of his days in France,

0:57:38 > 0:57:40never receiving huge public acclaim.

0:57:40 > 0:57:44# Well, if home is where the heart is

0:57:44 > 0:57:49# Then my home's in New Orleans... #

0:57:50 > 0:57:53New Orleans jazz had a fleeting moment in the spotlight, but

0:57:53 > 0:57:57for those who brought it to Britain, it would be a lifelong obsession.

0:57:57 > 0:58:03It sort of went through the boom into the big commercial venues...

0:58:04 > 0:58:09..and when that finished, it went back into the pubs and clubs.

0:58:09 > 0:58:13It still went on in clubs and jazz clubs and all over.

0:58:13 > 0:58:15It's still going on. I'm playing Saturday.

0:58:15 > 0:58:17HE CHUCKLES

0:58:17 > 0:58:19Gives me a buzz.

0:58:19 > 0:58:22Dr Jazz, they call it.

0:58:22 > 0:58:24It does do the trick.

0:58:24 > 0:58:27You get young people dragged into our concerts by their elders.

0:58:27 > 0:58:30They all seem to be enjoying it very thoroughly and they say so.

0:58:30 > 0:58:35When that band is ticking, everybody is in their places,

0:58:35 > 0:58:37terrific feeling.

0:58:37 > 0:58:40It's great. Nothing like The Beatles.