:00:17. > :00:21.She is one of the most recognised and respected women in the world up
:00:21. > :00:27.to four years as Secretary of State Hillary Clinton leaves the job with
:00:27. > :00:31.70% approval rating at one million air miles. I am interested to see
:00:31. > :00:38.if I can roll over and go to sleep or eat it so ingrained in me I will
:00:38. > :00:42.wonder what I do? She has a loyal friends. She has a great capacity
:00:42. > :00:48.as a human being on a day-to-day cents without distractions as
:00:48. > :00:52.reality. She has critics. I don't think that Hillary Clinton has been
:00:52. > :00:57.a very consequential Secretary of State. The President wanted to be
:00:57. > :01:07.in control of foreign policy will stop in Republican quarters there
:01:07. > :01:09.
:01:09. > :01:19.is grace. She has furthered This is the story of a remarkable
:01:19. > :01:41.
:01:41. > :01:46.journey from first lady to the He will reap Clinton has been on
:01:46. > :01:50.the world stage since Bill Clinton became the comeback Kid and she was
:01:50. > :01:56.the first lady. On the campaign trail and the White House, she was
:01:56. > :02:00.seen as an uncompromising, deeply polarising. I could have stayed
:02:00. > :02:04.home and baked cookies but I decided to fulfil my profession
:02:04. > :02:09.before my husband was in public life. Conservatives hated her and
:02:09. > :02:14.she hated them back blaming a vast right-wing conspiracy or attacking
:02:14. > :02:19.her husband's presidency. He said he suffered slings and arrows and
:02:19. > :02:24.now you leave the Office and you are soaring in the polls, you have
:02:24. > :02:30.retain the status of the school Secretary of State. Do you think
:02:30. > :02:37.that you can allow new changed or can people see who you really are?
:02:37. > :02:41.It's probably to some extent both. MAEV other factors getting out of
:02:41. > :02:46.politics to serve a non-political position for example. I think that
:02:46. > :02:51.I've learnt a lot in the last 20 or 30 years I hope and I want to keep
:02:51. > :02:57.moving. Perhaps the hardest lesson came from a failed bid for the
:02:57. > :03:02.White House. Back in 2008, she was the front runner for the Democratic
:03:02. > :03:07.domination. Despite all her fame and respect she added as a senator,
:03:07. > :03:10.she struggled to connect with the voters. The was a feeling within
:03:10. > :03:19.the campaign by some of her advisers that she always had to
:03:19. > :03:24.predict straight. She should not whatever. The President needed to
:03:24. > :03:29.project straight. To assert extent, that worked against her. In
:03:29. > :03:34.projecting string she was off- putting to some people. What can
:03:34. > :03:39.you say to the voters of New Hampshire that hesitate on the lack
:03:39. > :03:49.of an issue with a Either light Barack Obama mal? That hurts my
:03:49. > :03:50.
:03:50. > :03:55.feelings. I am sorry. I will try to go on. This exchange laid bare the
:03:55. > :04:03.tension between the candidates. is very likeable, I agree with that.
:04:03. > :04:08.I'm not that bad. You are likeable enough, Hillary. Yet, when Senator
:04:08. > :04:14.Obama won the nomination, rivals made peace and continues to the
:04:14. > :04:18.popularity to campaign for him. This woman were to with her at the
:04:18. > :04:22.White House and the State Department. At his bookshop I asked
:04:22. > :04:28.her if her friend had ever shown any bitterness after losing the
:04:28. > :04:32.nomination? Never, she is a professional, she's been in the
:04:32. > :04:37.business are long time and has had up Sandown's in various areas of
:04:37. > :04:40.the political life. I think she's one of those people that is
:04:40. > :04:45.forward-thinking thinking what is next and works on the next positive
:04:45. > :04:50.thing and will not dwell on past. Others may have crawled into bed
:04:50. > :04:54.and pulled the covers over them but she was not like that. You have
:04:54. > :05:00.been steeped in politics your whole life. Did you have imagine becoming
:05:00. > :05:06.a diplomat? I never imagine that. There was nothing that I had ever
:05:06. > :05:12.thought about. I had not before 1999 thought about running Office
:05:12. > :05:17.but my life has been serendipitous I would say. I have had a
:05:17. > :05:23.tremendously exciting opportunities to to expand my experience and to
:05:23. > :05:27.serve, which is something I believe in deeply, but when President Obama
:05:27. > :05:33.asked me to be his Secretary of State of stunned, I never thought
:05:33. > :05:36.that would be a possibility. Clinton was given a rapturous
:05:36. > :05:43.welcome at the State Department on her first day. Her predecessors had
:05:43. > :05:49.also been greeted but this was like a feverish campaign stop. Good
:05:49. > :05:55.afternoon. For Orange leaders flocked to her eager to shake hands
:05:55. > :05:59.with her and there was much gushing. Madame Secretary, on a personal
:05:59. > :06:04.note I hope you know that the admiration and respect you're held
:06:04. > :06:10.within our kingdom. Four years on and that former Foreign Secretary
:06:10. > :06:15.still remembers her debut. I will never forget the first NATO meeting
:06:15. > :06:18.after I arrived before her and there was a few people there in the
:06:18. > :06:23.entryway but when she arrived, there was literally thousands of
:06:23. > :06:27.people craning to get a view of her and that is where I said she was a
:06:27. > :06:31.rock star who came through strongly. When Hillary Clinton walked into
:06:31. > :06:36.the building on her first day as Secretary of State she clearly was
:06:36. > :06:41.a global figure. She had a contact list UN matched by her predecessors.
:06:41. > :06:45.The real questions were, how was she going to work with a former
:06:45. > :06:49.rival President Obama and more importantly, how was his new
:06:49. > :06:59.administration owing to one do some of the damage done to the American
:06:59. > :07:00.
:07:00. > :07:03.standing in the world? Be after the Bush years, with wars in
:07:03. > :07:08.Afghanistan end at Guantanamo Bay, the American reputation around the
:07:08. > :07:13.world had taken a battering. The Obama Administration want to change
:07:13. > :07:16.the substance and the tone of American foreign policy and that's
:07:16. > :07:24.where Hillary Clinton came in. But now we all take for granted it was
:07:24. > :07:30.a pretty good idea to pick her. Go back to November 2008, it was
:07:30. > :07:36.shocking. I were invite my team to say a few words. I will start my
:07:36. > :07:40.dear friend Hillary Clinton. present knew what he was inheriting
:07:40. > :07:46.with this person and he knew that the previous eight years was not
:07:46. > :07:51.exactly a golden age of diplomacy. He knew she was the best person to
:07:51. > :07:55.restore the American standing. Clinton embarked on a new campaign
:07:55. > :08:01.for America. She wanted to reach out directly to people in all
:08:01. > :08:06.countries she visited to help repair own country's image. He in
:08:06. > :08:09.2009 when I took office, diplomacy was no longer only about
:08:09. > :08:14.government-to-government relationships. That is not in any
:08:14. > :08:19.way to diminish the importance of peace treaties and trade treaties,
:08:19. > :08:24.they're just as important. But if we were going to take advantage of
:08:24. > :08:33.new technology, social media, we had to do more to reach out to
:08:33. > :08:37.public. Good evening from India. Thank you for being here with us
:08:37. > :08:43.all stop I'd like to ask you, what it think of the most powerful
:08:43. > :08:47.diplomatic tool? One thing I learnt in his job early is that the vast
:08:47. > :08:51.majority of young people over the world predominantly a population in
:08:51. > :08:58.the world of younger people under 35, eight don't have much knowledge
:08:58. > :09:02.about the United States. The drone attacks are being carried out.
:09:02. > :09:09.times they was hostility like in Pakistan which she visited in
:09:09. > :09:18.October 2009. Be for that trip she said she did not want to resign
:09:18. > :09:23.myself to giving up on trying to change people's minds. We said it
:09:23. > :09:28.will not be pretty. She said, I Want You guys to load this up and I
:09:29. > :09:34.want you to make me a punchbag. This a lot of frustration amongst
:09:34. > :09:41.our people. Once you let people express their frustration, they
:09:41. > :09:47.also realise it's OK to expression bid desires and their own goals for
:09:47. > :09:52.their nation and how the United States plays a part in that. PR is
:09:52. > :09:56.not enough on its own. When a NATO airstrike in November 2011 killed
:09:56. > :10:00.24 Pakistani soldiers, Hillary Clinton pushed for months to
:10:00. > :10:04.convince the White House to apologise. The country's Foreign
:10:04. > :10:10.Minister says she helped bring US pet study relationships back from
:10:10. > :10:14.the brink. He US was perceived to be a country that was perceived not
:10:15. > :10:21.to be willing to care about the lives not withstanding the
:10:21. > :10:26.circumstances. She completely understood that. In the US Senate,
:10:26. > :10:31.John McCain saw how prepared she was to build unlikely alliances.
:10:31. > :10:37.The former republican candidate still calls a friend. She has
:10:37. > :10:41.established relationships with leaders in well over 100 missions
:10:41. > :10:46.and she can pick up that phone at any time and they know that she
:10:46. > :10:51.will speak for the American people and the President. There have been
:10:52. > :10:57.on numerous occasions when she has turned what may have been a crisis
:10:57. > :11:05.in two situation which was OK. Rover four use she criss-crossed
:11:05. > :11:08.the globe visiting 112 countries, spent 2,000 hours on airplanes,
:11:08. > :11:16.travelled over one million miles. That's almost 40 times around the
:11:16. > :11:20.world. I'm half your age without a bulging my age. I feel the only
:11:20. > :11:24.one-third distance and you have gone and I feel exhausted and how
:11:25. > :11:32.did you do that? I'm lucky of always been healthy. I have great
:11:32. > :11:38.stamina. For most of my life, so I did enjoy it and I enjoyed the
:11:38. > :11:44.challenge of travel and the unique experiences that I had all over the
:11:44. > :11:48.world. I'm lucky I can sleep on aeroplanes and I did so regularly.
:11:48. > :11:56.It was a small cabin but it was enough for me to feel like I could
:11:56. > :11:59.rest before I got off to start my work. For me, it was the challenge
:11:59. > :12:05.and the excitement and the importance and responsibility they
:12:05. > :12:09.got me up every day. I was never disorientated about where I was.
:12:09. > :12:13.That did not affect me. There was no doubt that it was exhausting.
:12:13. > :12:18.One critic of the ministrations as her ability to press the flesh made
:12:18. > :12:23.it the perfect foil for the more aloof President Obama. You don't
:12:23. > :12:33.seem to have enjoyed cuddling up to foreign leaders. Some presidents do
:12:33. > :12:39.and some do not. He does not seem to like it. He left all that to her.
:12:39. > :12:42.Trip after trip. Hour after how. She did it. Somebody had to do it.
:12:42. > :12:46.Personal relationships are important and she has done it and I
:12:46. > :12:51.think that's been actually a great service to the administration and
:12:51. > :12:55.to the country. Her goal as Secretary of State was much grander
:12:55. > :13:01.than have to. From the first day she set out how the administration
:13:01. > :13:05.would redefine the exercise of American power and leadership.
:13:05. > :13:11.much must used smart power, the full range of tools at our disposal,
:13:11. > :13:15.diplomatic, economic, military, political legal and cultural. Pick
:13:15. > :13:19.the right fool and combination of tools for each situation. She tried
:13:19. > :13:23.to break down traditional barriers which in the State Department and
:13:23. > :13:29.the Pentagon and travelled overseas with the Defence Secretary such as
:13:29. > :13:35.in soccer career. Asia is where she says this Mark Power approach has
:13:35. > :13:41.paid off most. We reassured hour are raised and we worked it create
:13:41. > :13:48.conditions for an unprecedented historic achievement which is with
:13:48. > :13:52.Chinese rise and avoiding conflict because historically it a rise in
:13:52. > :13:56.power and an established power had not been able to negotiate.
:13:56. > :14:01.Strategic and economic dialogues which I put into place and shed
:14:01. > :14:07.with the Secretary gave us the habit of co-operation so when we
:14:07. > :14:09.face a crisis such as the blind dissident, we were able to
:14:09. > :14:19.accomplish that through very intensive negotiations in a way
:14:19. > :14:22.
:14:22. > :14:30.that was not in keeping with our 18 arrests activists took shelter
:14:30. > :14:34.in a US embassy in China. -- a human rights activist. I made the
:14:34. > :14:38.decision quickly. It was based on the information I had been given.
:14:38. > :14:45.And did not see how we could turn away someone who was seeking
:14:45. > :14:51.medical treatment and Safety at our embassy. It would have fallen
:14:51. > :14:55.efface of what I think we are. you are a superpower Q always
:14:55. > :15:02.dealing with more double crisis at the same time. The smart power
:15:02. > :15:07.approach was put to the test by events. In this war weary nation,
:15:07. > :15:17.was a military option still an option? If it wasn't, did mean that
:15:17. > :15:19.
:15:19. > :15:23.American power was on the wane? In the early 2011, years of pent-up
:15:23. > :15:27.anger and frustration erupted across north Africa and the Middle
:15:27. > :15:35.east. Clinton had just warned Arab League is that the region was
:15:35. > :15:39.sinking. Should not that much she did not expect revolution and war.
:15:39. > :15:44.Our expectation is that the Egyptian government is stable.
:15:44. > :15:48.Within three weeks, President Mubarak was gone. The US had lost a
:15:48. > :15:57.long-time ally. Clinton headed to Cairo as the US scrambled to keep
:15:57. > :16:05.up with changes. They re- wrote foreign policy for a new Arab world.
:16:05. > :16:11.As the uprisings bread, from Libya to Syria and Bahrain, Washington
:16:11. > :16:17.protected American interests. administration was slow on Mubarak.
:16:17. > :16:22.She was slow to realise that President Assad was a butcher. In
:16:22. > :16:32.Olivia we were slow. Then be pulled out some aircraft, leaving the
:16:32. > :16:37.
:16:37. > :16:41.French and British there. -- inner -- in Lybia. No-one understood what
:16:41. > :16:45.an earthquake it would be. She was part of the group who did not
:16:45. > :16:49.understand from the beginning. Administration called for the
:16:49. > :16:56.Syrian President to step down last year. President Assad is still in
:16:56. > :17:02.power. The violence is to run the country apart. Critics say this was
:17:02. > :17:12.a time for the US to act decisively, even with the military. It is the
:17:12. > :17:13.
:17:13. > :17:19.President's decision. Much more of this Secretary Clinton's decision.
:17:19. > :17:25.We have at 60,000 people be slaughtered. Arms flowing from
:17:25. > :17:29.Russia and Iran, and we sit by and watch. It is shameful. If she
:17:29. > :17:33.cannot influence the President... think she influences the President
:17:33. > :17:43.on a great variety of issues. On this issue, certainly there have
:17:43. > :17:44.
:17:44. > :17:48.been others. Are you doing enough for serious? Do you feel you have
:17:48. > :17:53.failed on that front? I have spent an enormous amount of time trying
:17:53. > :17:59.to persuade the Security Council to take what I think would be the
:17:59. > :18:05.right actions over the objections of the Russians. Your eyes are
:18:05. > :18:09.looking for more decisive action. Often times they say that in public.
:18:09. > :18:15.When they get behind closed doors, they understand the complexities of
:18:15. > :18:19.the situation. This is a difficult problem. There is no denying that.
:18:19. > :18:23.In my diplomacy with our counterparts, they are equally
:18:23. > :18:31.aware of how challenging it is to try to influence the political
:18:31. > :18:35.outcome. The international efforts to bring down the Libyan dictator
:18:35. > :18:40.or were seen by d'Administration as a successful new style of limited
:18:40. > :18:45.military intervention. The picture was marred by tragedy when
:18:45. > :18:51.militants in Benghazi killed an American ambassador. Eager to wind
:18:51. > :18:57.down the war, President Obama remains cautious. Ferries concern
:18:57. > :19:03.the US has over learned the lessons of the Iraq war. Malted natural
:19:03. > :19:07.diplomacy still gets Cougars. the Secretary of State of a global
:19:07. > :19:12.power seems to be easy, we were representing a global power, it has
:19:12. > :19:22.its own difficulties. If you get the impression you are imposing
:19:22. > :19:23.
:19:24. > :19:29.something on others, it might be counter-productive. For all of the
:19:29. > :19:39.reaching out, does Clinton have anything tangible to show for her
:19:39. > :19:39.
:19:39. > :19:45.She will be remembered as a celebrity and a world traveller. It
:19:45. > :19:50.will not be for her impact on some huge policy issues. I think she
:19:50. > :19:57.will be remembered mostly as the person who was always there. She
:19:57. > :20:02.was always everywhere. Some of your critics say you have been
:20:02. > :20:08.inconsequential as a Secretary of State. They say there is no-one
:20:08. > :20:11.agreement or achievement. What is your reaction? I think it is a
:20:11. > :20:17.narrow and yet this back and inaccurate view. Where first
:20:17. > :20:22.responsibility was to restore American leadership. That was one
:20:22. > :20:27.of the reasons I was their day in and out. We set the table for
:20:28. > :20:34.dealing with a lot of problems and seizing opportunities. There is a
:20:34. > :20:39.set of issues that historically have not been the province of the
:20:39. > :20:43.Secretary of State. Women and bills, which I think is a security issue,
:20:43. > :20:49.technology, how we use it and harnesses to convey the American
:20:49. > :20:55.narrative. We seized opportunities that have moved American diplomacy
:20:55. > :21:02.much further than it was when I came into office. Her allies agree.
:21:02. > :21:07.It is the big picture that matters. They have set up a modern role for
:21:07. > :21:15.a world superpower in a world where there are the veto powers. This is
:21:15. > :21:19.a different role from what her husband confronted in the 1990s.
:21:19. > :21:23.All Secretaries of State stay at a domestic American politics. Clinton
:21:23. > :21:27.did it so well that she is now popular with both Democrats and
:21:27. > :21:33.Republicans. As she travelled around the world, preparing her
:21:33. > :21:42.country's image, her own approval ratings soared. She became more of
:21:42. > :21:48.a stateswoman. Is she still a politician at heart? Hillary
:21:48. > :21:52.Clinton has been many things during her accomplished Korea, only as
:21:52. > :21:59.Secretary of State has she been considered cool. From internet
:21:59. > :22:04.means to shout out at a recent awards ceremony, she has emerged as
:22:04. > :22:10.a global star in her own right. What an exciting special guest.
:22:10. > :22:13.That was Hillary Clinton's husband. What did you learn during your
:22:13. > :22:22.format used as the Secretary of State that you wish you had known
:22:22. > :22:29.as a candidate in 2008? There is a hard question to answer. I have
:22:30. > :22:34.learnt even more about how to relate to people of many different
:22:34. > :22:39.backgrounds. I live in the most diverse country in the world. That
:22:39. > :22:45.is one of America's great strengths. I feel even more strongly that we
:22:45. > :22:48.need to use adversity to enhance our leadership going forward. I can
:22:48. > :22:55.point to so many examples around the world where people still strive
:22:55. > :23:01.to be like us, to come here, to attend our universities, Y? Because
:23:01. > :23:06.of our vitality, values, our vision for the future there we are seeking.
:23:06. > :23:10.I feel even more strongly about that now than I did in 2008.
:23:10. > :23:14.answer that would not be out of place on the campaign trail.
:23:14. > :23:18.Clinton learnt from the best. By floating above the political fray
:23:18. > :23:24.for the last four matches, she is well positioned for a run at the
:23:24. > :23:28.White House in 2016, if she wants it. She would be extremely
:23:28. > :23:33.formidable. If I had to wager to that, I think she would give it
:23:33. > :23:38.serious consideration. She would be urged to. Do you think her husband
:23:38. > :23:44.wanted to run? No, I think Bill Clinton loves politics. He sees it
:23:44. > :23:49.as the greatest avenue for change. She would be a great President. I
:23:49. > :23:53.would be shocked if he did not want her to run. Her age and health will
:23:53. > :23:57.be part of the decision. When she returned to work after a concussion
:23:57. > :24:02.and blood clot putter out of action for one month, her colleagues gave
:24:02. > :24:09.her an American football how much. Politics was a contact sport, they
:24:09. > :24:16.said. For now, she wants to relax and reflect on the job she has left.
:24:16. > :24:22.Will you miss it? I will miss it. I will miss the people I work with,
:24:22. > :24:28.I'd will miss representing my country. I will miss my plane. I
:24:28. > :24:33.will miss making the progress we made of the past four years. We set
:24:33. > :24:40.out long-term challenges. I will certainly miss the experiences I
:24:40. > :24:44.have had. On Monday you will wake up, and for the first time in 20
:24:44. > :24:52.years, you will be unemployed. Would you sleep all day or watch
:24:52. > :24:58.television? I am waiting to find out. Is not just the last 20 years,
:24:58. > :25:05.I have had a job or been in school full-time since I was 15. I am
:25:05. > :25:09.interested in seeing a bacon roll were their endeavour to sleep. One
:25:09. > :25:15.of the most common things that my former colleagues say to me after
:25:15. > :25:20.they have left me is that they had no idea how tiring it was. I have a
:25:20. > :25:27.good idea how tired I have been trying to do all that I could on
:25:27. > :25:32.behalf of the Obama administration. I want to catch up on sleep, I want