:00:09. > :00:17.health emergency. It might have claimed a life. It took him to die
:00:17. > :00:20.to get it diagnosed. It's reignited an old argument - single vaccines or
:00:20. > :00:27.triple MMR? I wouldn't want to give it to her knowing something could
:00:27. > :00:31.happen. Tonight, we ask could the epidemic have been prevented.
:00:31. > :00:35.were lulled into a false sense of security by the absence of measles
:00:35. > :00:42.over many years. You failed? I think we have done a huge amount.
:00:42. > :00:47.enough? We go inside a vaccination clinic being investigated by medical
:00:47. > :00:52.authorities. This is about business. It is not about public health?
:00:53. > :01:02.it is not about business. What stops us opening up in Swansea? That will
:01:03. > :01:19.
:01:19. > :01:25.Britain's worst measles epidemics and it started so simply. It began
:01:25. > :01:28.in early November. We had three cases of measles in three distinct
:01:28. > :01:32.family groups who had no knowledge of each other or any contact with
:01:32. > :01:37.each other here in Wales. Except they had been to the same holiday
:01:37. > :01:43.resort in the South West of England. Measles has been a ticking time bomb
:01:43. > :01:47.and for years, more than 70,000 children in Wales have been left
:01:47. > :01:52.exposed to this potentially deadly disease because of a row which
:01:52. > :01:57.erupted before many of them were even born. Parents were left
:01:57. > :02:02.confused about the safety of the MMR vaccine and that's resulted in a
:02:02. > :02:10.public health emergency which is still spreading and is showing
:02:10. > :02:18.little sign of slowing down. minutes, that is enough to give you
:02:18. > :02:22.the infection if you have not been vaccinated. When Laura Berry caught
:02:22. > :02:26.it last month, her family feared the worst. They were frightened that she
:02:26. > :02:32.wouldn't survive. To be honest, I thought it was life and death for
:02:32. > :02:40.Laura. That is how frightened I was. She used to say, "Oh, mam. I don't
:02:40. > :02:50.know whetherly be here the next day." It is hurtful to hear her
:02:50. > :02:59.saying that. It felt horrible and I felt fainty. I couldn't get out of
:02:59. > :03:04.bed because I was weak. I was boiling hot. I felt claustrophobic.
:03:04. > :03:10.It was really horrible. 13-year-old Laura, like around 6,000 other local
:03:10. > :03:14.children, hadn't had the measles, mumps and rubella vaccine. A decade
:03:14. > :03:18.ago, Kay had read stories about possible links to autism. I have
:03:19. > :03:25.five children. The other four have had the MMR. At the time, I didn't
:03:25. > :03:30.think it was safe for me to have Laura done. I'm really sorry now.
:03:30. > :03:35.Nearly 40 pupils at Laura's school have also had measles, an ordeal for
:03:35. > :03:41.them and their families. I was crying with her sometimes. Her eyes
:03:41. > :03:46.as well, she couldn't open her eyes because her eyes were puffy, really
:03:46. > :03:56.bad and sore. Her stomach was worse than anything. There were bad pains
:03:56. > :04:00.in her belly as well. This is the worst illness I have seen on Laura.
:04:00. > :04:06.A handful of cases in November rapidly turned into an epidemic,
:04:06. > :04:15.when hundreds became infected in neath and Port Talbot. MMR jabs are
:04:15. > :04:22.being offered in hospitals and schools to help contain the spread.
:04:23. > :04:28.Good afternoon, can I help you? Every new measles case is reported
:04:28. > :04:33.to Public Health Wales. Could you check? Lots of the younger
:04:33. > :04:36.generations have forgotten how serious this used to be, before we
:04:36. > :04:41.had the vaccine, 100 people would die every year. It does have serious
:04:41. > :04:46.consequences. 120% will get complications, whether that is
:04:46. > :04:50.middle ear infection, pneumonias, more rarely encephalitis. It is
:04:50. > :04:55.highly infectious. It is one of the most infectious viruses we have.
:04:55. > :05:00.the outbreak turned into an epidemic, doctors predicted someone
:05:00. > :05:06.would die. Events in Wales have been drawing attention from around the
:05:06. > :05:10.world. This is a topic that's of great interest to us. Around the
:05:10. > :05:13.country, there are more figures showing there are some low
:05:13. > :05:19.vaccination rates in Australia, so the example of Wales is a good
:05:19. > :05:21.indication of what might happen in Australia over the next few years.
:05:21. > :05:27.MMR boosters aren't normally given until children are about to start
:05:27. > :05:31.nursery. But now many parents are afraid to wait. He is not due until
:05:31. > :05:37.he is three. They said come down today to get them done to be on the
:05:37. > :05:43.safe side. But the biggest target, and one of the most vulnerable
:05:43. > :05:47.groups, are teenagers. Here at the epicentre of the outbreak in
:05:47. > :05:51.Swansea, there are still plenty of parents who are concerned about how
:05:51. > :05:56.best to protect their children. And that has created a business
:05:56. > :06:02.opportunity for private clinics who are selling single vaccinations.
:06:02. > :06:10.They say they are offering a choice to parents despite the warnings from
:06:10. > :06:16.public health experts. One clinic in particular is causing concern. This
:06:16. > :06:24.is one of its clinics, in Manchester. It's busy offering
:06:24. > :06:32.single measles vaccinations against NHS advice. This mum has travelled
:06:32. > :06:38.145 miles to get her daughter injected. That's better, isn't it? I
:06:38. > :06:46.think the MMR is too much for a baby. And I wouldn't want to give it
:06:46. > :06:50.to her knowing that something could happen. Everybody's realised with
:06:50. > :06:56.the outbreak of the measles in Swansea, it's prompted people to
:06:56. > :07:02.come for the boosters and also for the first immunisation of rubella or
:07:02. > :07:07.measles. They are choosing to pay �110 for the single measles vaccine.
:07:07. > :07:15.The MMR is free on the NHS and it is more effective according to public
:07:15. > :07:20.health officials. I know people, they swear blind it is because of
:07:20. > :07:25.the MMR jab. It is only since they have had the MMR jab that they have
:07:25. > :07:30.had problems. I'm not prepared to take any chances with my kid's
:07:30. > :07:35.health. They are worried because it was from 12-month-old and it is
:07:35. > :07:40.three live vaccines in one. Most of the patients who come to us have got
:07:40. > :07:44.allergies, eczema, which then shows they have a low immune system.
:07:44. > :07:48.Public health officials advise against single jabs, but the company
:07:48. > :07:53.is heading to Swansea. We want to help out in Swansea. We are going to
:07:53. > :07:59.do a relief clinic within the next two weeks to help with the measles
:07:59. > :08:03.outbreak. But Public Health Wales says there is no need. Do parents
:08:03. > :08:07.still have the right to choose? Having developed a vaccine, which is
:08:07. > :08:12.just as effective as the singles used to be, and now available in
:08:12. > :08:17.one, I would like to think parents can accept that that is the right
:08:17. > :08:21.thing for their child. Two injections instead of six and longer
:08:21. > :08:24.protection against the three viruses. Sometimes, it doesn't make
:08:24. > :08:31.sense to offer - choice doesn't make sense because it is neither good
:08:31. > :08:35.medicine and it is more painful. It is difficult, isn't it? This is an
:08:35. > :08:40.epidemic that should never have happened. Measles is preventible.
:08:40. > :08:45.For 15 years, health officials have known that the number of children
:08:45. > :08:51.who have received the MMR vaccine is dangerously low. In some areas, one
:08:51. > :08:57.in four have been left unprotected. And they have been called "the
:08:57. > :09:02.Wakefield generation". Judgment day for Dr Andrew Wakefield who
:09:02. > :09:09.triggered one of the biggest health scares in a generation. A maverick
:09:09. > :09:12.whose reputation now lies in tat tatters. In 1998 he published
:09:12. > :09:18.research linking the MMR vaccine to autism and bowel problems in
:09:18. > :09:25.children. He's since been struck off. The allegations against me and
:09:25. > :09:29.against my colleagues are both unfounded and unjust. The GMC said
:09:29. > :09:34.he had shown a callous disregard for the children he treated, was
:09:34. > :09:38.dishonest in his research methods, abused his position as a doctor and
:09:38. > :09:42.was irresponsible. But the doubts created by that
:09:42. > :09:46.flawed research still linger. Swansea mum Natalie Bamford helped
:09:46. > :09:55.lead a high-profile campaign questioning the safety of the MMR in
:09:55. > :10:00.the late' 90s. This all began for me when my first son turned one and the
:10:00. > :10:05.press started reporting on the safety of MMR. At the time, it was
:10:05. > :10:09.like let's choose the lesser of the two evils, let's go down the single
:10:09. > :10:12.vaccine route. That is what I chose to do. Natalie turned to her local
:10:12. > :10:18.newspaper for help to find like-minded parents who wanted
:10:18. > :10:23.single vaccines. She was overwhelmed by the response. That weekend, the
:10:23. > :10:29.Express or the Mail came out with a huge double spread on the unsafety
:10:29. > :10:37.of the MMR. The Evening Post printed my story on the Monday. And oh my
:10:37. > :10:41.God, it just, instead of ten people, I got 1,800 people. My phone was off
:10:41. > :10:45.the hook. Parents struggled to find private clinics offering single
:10:45. > :10:50.vaccines so Natalie and another mum from Worcester set one up
:10:50. > :10:56.themselves. To the media, this was a fantastic story. What was it to the
:10:56. > :10:59.mums? Terrifying! We didn't know where to turn. We didn't know what
:10:59. > :11:04.to believe. You know what I mean? I can only imagine, you know, what we
:11:04. > :11:09.had to become mini scientists all of a sudden and try and figure out
:11:09. > :11:13.graphs and data that we didn't understand. In the Swansea, Neath
:11:14. > :11:18.and Port Talbot areas, the uptake of MMR since has remained low. The
:11:18. > :11:23.Evening Post says it was simply reporting local concerns. Was it
:11:23. > :11:28.ever your intention, when you got involved in the campaign, to stop
:11:28. > :11:33.children being inoculated? No. There was always choice. I have to put
:11:33. > :11:39.this question to you... I blame the door of Andrew Wakefield. He
:11:39. > :11:46.stopped, if people did nothing, then that was their choice. But the blame
:11:46. > :11:48.has got to be laid at the door of his agenda and what he was trying to
:11:48. > :11:51.get out of doing this. Do you accept any responsibility for this as well?
:11:51. > :11:57.You were involved in a very... don't accept any responsibility for
:11:57. > :12:02.this. I dealt with the problem. point is this: You were involved in
:12:02. > :12:05.a very visible campaign... choice. Saying this is, "We are very
:12:05. > :12:11.worried about this." The consequence of worry is sometimes fear. It
:12:11. > :12:16.propagates fear. Maybe that is what has happened in this community?
:12:16. > :12:20.never told anybody that you should not get vaccinated on this, but I
:12:20. > :12:24.told them if you are worried, like I am worried, like all the parents
:12:24. > :12:29.were worried, then we should go with the single vaccine until this is
:12:29. > :12:39.cleared up. Thousands have queued for emergency MMR jabs but there are
:12:39. > :12:41.
:12:41. > :12:46.thousands still out there who have yet to be protected. Since
:12:46. > :12:52.mid-November, measles has spread from the Abertawe Bro Morganwg
:12:52. > :12:57.Health Board area to Hywel Dda and Powys. Measles now exists in nearly
:12:57. > :13:00.every Health Board area. Today, there are just under 1,000 cases
:13:00. > :13:06.across Wales. Public Health Wales has warned that in measles
:13:06. > :13:08.outbreaks, one in 1,000 people can die. Last Thursday, the first
:13:08. > :13:15.suspected measles death was reported. This is something that has
:13:15. > :13:21.not been confirmed. We are working with the Coroner. Measles was one of
:13:21. > :13:28.many lines of enquiry that he will be under taking. Our lives will
:13:28. > :13:33.never be the same. We have lost such a big character. We loved him so
:13:33. > :13:39.much. Gareth Colfer Williams lived with
:13:39. > :13:45.Cairo and Dakota in Swansea. He had measles, but it wasn't diagnosed.
:13:45. > :13:51.took him to the surgery with a rash and everything, he could barely
:13:51. > :13:54.stand. He was so badly let down by the whole system. It wasn't as if he
:13:54. > :14:02.was in bed, had a rash, stayed in bed, didn't do anything about it. He
:14:02. > :14:12.tried. He tried. I tried. I took him out-of-hours. He phoned our GP. We
:14:12. > :14:21.
:14:21. > :14:25.went, we saw three GPs who told us was sent home from the surgery with
:14:25. > :14:30.paracetamol. She felt for a pulse and rang nine
:14:30. > :14:37.nine and they are telling her how to resuscitate him which she said
:14:37. > :14:47.was, you know, I wanted to touch him. I wanted to give him a cuddle.
:14:47. > :14:48.
:14:48. > :14:54.But we had to see him behind a screen because of everything. If he
:14:54. > :15:04.didn't die of measles, he had measles, you know, undiagnosed
:15:04. > :15:11.until, it took him to die to get it diagnosed. It is ridiculous.
:15:11. > :15:15.The ABM U health board says it will investigate any concerns raised by
:15:15. > :15:22.the coroner and it added in general measles is difficult to diagnose in
:15:22. > :15:29.its early stages because many symptoms are similar to other
:15:29. > :15:33.illnesses. Immunisation does not hurt.
:15:33. > :15:37.decades, vaccines helped stop the spread of disease. Immunisation
:15:37. > :15:43.against measles began in 1968 with single jabs, but these were
:15:43. > :15:48.replaced with the MMR 20 years later.
:15:48. > :15:52.Online, it is easy to find private clinics offering single jabs. They
:15:52. > :15:57.make clear there is nothing wrong with the triple vaccine.
:15:57. > :16:01.But one which set-up a clinic in a Swansea hotel last weekend, told
:16:01. > :16:06.parents they were offering a safer alternative. Parents were paying
:16:06. > :16:11.�50 a child to register with the Children's Immunisation Centre and
:16:11. > :16:15.�110 for the single measles vaccine. I don't know. I don't know the
:16:15. > :16:19.reasons why they give the combined rather than individual, but I would
:16:19. > :16:24.prefer to do it individually. I think they should give you a choice.
:16:24. > :16:29.REPORTER: You have had both of them done today? Yes, Louis had his
:16:29. > :16:34.booster and Theo started the course. These parents found the company
:16:34. > :16:38.online. There is a lot of parents having the three in one because
:16:38. > :16:42.they can't afford the single ones. They wouldn't have the three in one
:16:42. > :16:46.by option. They are having to have it because they can't afford the
:16:46. > :16:51.singles. Again, that's taken out of their hands.
:16:51. > :16:55.It is a huge overload on the immune system and I feel happier with
:16:55. > :17:01.having given the single vaccine today. We saw the queues for the
:17:01. > :17:06.MMR and we saw so many thousands of children are unprotected and
:17:06. > :17:09.measles can kill and measles will kill and that's why we're there to
:17:09. > :17:15.offer protection against the measles.
:17:15. > :17:18.REPORTER: To those people who would say this is a cynical business move
:17:18. > :17:21.to go into Swansea and other parts of the UK, this is really about
:17:21. > :17:26.business, it is not about public health? No. It is not about
:17:26. > :17:30.business at all. It is not. We operate the clinics as and where we
:17:30. > :17:37.operate them across the country. We're opening up more. We are going
:17:37. > :17:41.to open up in Newcastle so so what stops us opening up in Swansea?
:17:41. > :17:49.That's is going to be a permanent clinic.
:17:49. > :17:54.The company suggests an awe autism link to the MMR vaccine. What about
:17:54. > :17:58.Wakefield? Was he right? There was nothing proven that was his take on
:17:58. > :18:02.the combined. About well, he was struck off? Well, if parents want
:18:02. > :18:06.to read what was in the papers and they are worried, then they can
:18:06. > :18:12.make the decision. It is not helping the country as a whole, not
:18:12. > :18:15.having children vaccinated. No, there are clinics that offer
:18:15. > :18:22.single inoculations and what's your view of those? It is a business,
:18:22. > :18:30.isn't it for them? It is a business. I don't engage with them. I have no
:18:30. > :18:36.part in their regulation or their reporting. They exist. Are they
:18:36. > :18:40.playing on people's fears? You will always find, people can always make
:18:40. > :18:43.money money out of other people's miseries. There is no doubt they
:18:43. > :18:48.will come to Swansea because they will think, well, you can see, they
:18:48. > :18:54.want their children vaccinated, that's why they are queuing up at
:18:54. > :19:00.our clinic on a Saturday, 1,800. 20,000 teenagers only had the first
:19:00. > :19:06.part of their MMR jabs, which means they have a chance of catching
:19:06. > :19:11.measles. Sam has finished his first day after weeks away. The friends
:19:11. > :19:18.were wondering what was wrong with me. I told them what happened and
:19:18. > :19:22.they were shocked, really. It felt weird going back after a month
:19:22. > :19:27.learning again. Hundreds of his fellow pupils hadn't been
:19:27. > :19:32.vaccinated. It started hitting me when I was in school, the pain came
:19:33. > :19:40.on in my throat and eyes and I started getting dizziness. It came
:19:40. > :19:42.to the Saturday where I had an asthma attack, my mother said she
:19:42. > :19:47.found a rash behind my ear and I panicked a lot. I heard things from
:19:47. > :19:54.my friends which were like you could go blind and even in some
:19:54. > :20:01.cases you could die, of course. He was very scared and his
:20:01. > :20:07.breathing became uncontrollable. We had to call an ambulance and it was
:20:07. > :20:13.very frightening at the time. I was panicking a lot. But when the
:20:13. > :20:17.ambulance came and it slowly got better, but the measles, the pain
:20:17. > :20:22.was still there and it was getting worse. Sam's parents decided not to
:20:22. > :20:24.let him have the second MMR vaccination because he was ill
:20:25. > :20:32.after the first. Because of the very sear reaction
:20:32. > :20:34.he had a baby, we won't pick him up, he just cried constantly and it was
:20:34. > :20:38.an extremely awful time for us as parents.
:20:39. > :20:43.They say at that time, they were worried by Andrew Wakefield's
:20:43. > :20:47.research. Without his MMR booster, Sam wasn't properly protected. In
:20:47. > :20:50.parts of Wales, uptake for the second jab remains low, so
:20:50. > :20:55.shouldn't doctors have done more to tackle the issue? There has been
:20:55. > :21:02.more than a decade in which, you know, thousands of people have not
:21:02. > :21:06.been persuaded that they should have had their children... There
:21:06. > :21:10.are thousands, but there are still many thousands who haven't? Yes,
:21:10. > :21:15.you are right, I would wish that 40,000 had it.
:21:15. > :21:21.You failed? I think we have done, we did a huge amount. I think it
:21:21. > :21:28.was a hard... But not enough...It was a hard road back. Enough for me
:21:28. > :21:33.when it is at 95% and I want every child protected. 95% doesn't cut it
:21:33. > :21:36.for me because that means five children in 100 will go through
:21:36. > :21:39.life unprotected against measles, mumps, rubella. I think we have
:21:39. > :21:45.done a huge amount. There are many children out there
:21:45. > :21:49.who are who have not been inoculated? You are right and I
:21:49. > :21:53.think when measles are not circulating, when it is not a
:21:53. > :21:56.threat to your child, when your grandmother talks about we had it
:21:56. > :22:01.when we were little and we were fine. Sometimes it is hard to
:22:01. > :22:03.recognise that actually it is a threat to your child.
:22:03. > :22:10.The letter from school about the jab.
:22:10. > :22:14.Sam is having the MMR booster vaccination. I feel so guilty that
:22:14. > :22:21.he went through such a hard time having the measles, contracting the
:22:21. > :22:26.measles. And you know, I do feel guilty, but I still stand by my
:22:26. > :22:31.decision as parents that we made the right decision.
:22:31. > :22:39.To stop measles in its tracks, 95% of children and teenagers in Wales
:22:39. > :22:44.have to be vaccinated against it. Here in Powys, only 74% of
:22:44. > :22:49.teenagers have had all their jabs. Not surprising that this is an area
:22:49. > :22:54.where there is another outbreak of measles.
:22:54. > :23:00.A cluster of cases started emerging before Easter. Across the county,
:23:00. > :23:05.there are 75 cases. All three of Shirley Pake's children caught it.
:23:05. > :23:15.They had never been immunised. Nine-year-old Ryan is still
:23:15. > :23:16.
:23:16. > :23:22.recovering. My neck hurt. My throat hurt. Heavy
:23:22. > :23:29.headed. Not fine. Doctors are still trying to discover how the disease
:23:29. > :23:34.spread to this rural community.. know of about three, I think, other
:23:34. > :23:41.families that have had it. All three of them ended up in hospital,
:23:41. > :23:45.being checked out because of the complications that can arise from
:23:45. > :23:51.measles. When Shirley's eldest daughter
:23:51. > :23:54.caught measle, she took Ryan for his MMR, but it was too late, he
:23:54. > :23:58.caught the disease. She regrets listening to the scare stories
:23:58. > :24:01.years ago. I wish I did give them the MMR at
:24:01. > :24:10.the time because of seeing how sick they were. I could have avoided
:24:10. > :24:16.that, but yes, go and get your kids done.
:24:16. > :24:22.Powys has a poor record on MMR uptake among teenagers. One doctor
:24:22. > :24:26.admits he and others should have seen this outbreak coming.
:24:26. > :24:29.There is a sense of measles was not around and nobody was really,
:24:29. > :24:35.really pushing it as much as perhaps we should have done. It is
:24:35. > :24:40.not that we didn't have the information that these uptake rates
:24:41. > :24:44.were poor, but I think, perhaps, we need to hold our hands up and say
:24:44. > :24:48.we could have done more there. We were getting regular information
:24:48. > :24:51.about uptake rates and we were regularly informed the rates were
:24:51. > :24:54.not sufficient to guarantee protection against an outbreak.
:24:54. > :25:01.Why didn't you and your colleagues respond to that?
:25:01. > :25:06.I think we were, you know, perhaps lulled into a false sense of
:25:06. > :25:12.security by the absence of measles over many years. I think if we had
:25:12. > :25:13.had any minor outbreaks, I think we we would have been more acidious in
:25:13. > :25:17.persuading people to have the vaccine.
:25:17. > :25:21.Back in Swansea, the Children's Immunisation Centre persuaded
:25:21. > :25:25.parents it is offering a safer option. It claims its measles
:25:25. > :25:31.vaccine offers 97% protection after the first dose.
:25:31. > :25:35.Your website says single vaccines give a higher level of protection
:25:35. > :25:40.against measles, mumps, rubella than MMR? The single vaccines for
:25:40. > :25:45.the measles and the rubella offer a higher percentage cover than the
:25:45. > :25:49.combined. Especially after the first dose. Says who?Says the
:25:49. > :25:53.manufacturers guidelines. This is the manufacturers? Yes.And where
:25:54. > :25:57.has this been established in peer group science and where is the
:25:57. > :26:00.literature to back that up? From the manufacturer.
:26:00. > :26:04.The clinic said it couldn't provide us with the manufacturer's
:26:04. > :26:07.literature, but if stands by its claims.
:26:07. > :26:12.What do you make of that? There is no evidence for that. I have
:26:12. > :26:15.reviewed the literature, I haven't seen a single peer reviewed article
:26:15. > :26:19.which suggests that the single measles vaccine is better than the
:26:19. > :26:23.MMR vaccine. But they go further, they say on
:26:23. > :26:29.their website that their single MMR vaccination is the only safe way?
:26:29. > :26:33.They can say that, but I know that MMR has been used for 30 to 40
:26:33. > :26:37.years now. Millions of doses administered, it is a safe vaccine
:26:37. > :26:41.and if they say it, they say it, but it is not the only safe way.
:26:41. > :26:45.MMR is the best way. You get protection against measles, mumps,
:26:45. > :26:51.rubella, all of them effective. Single vaccines for mumps aren't
:26:51. > :26:57.available in the UK, which made us wonder how the clinic can offer a
:26:57. > :27:07.safer option to the MMR, we are not alone in wondering about their
:27:07. > :27:12.claims? I just think that some of the claims on there and some of the
:27:12. > :27:17.statements on those websites appear to be misleading and ambiguous and
:27:17. > :27:22.are a serious cause for concern. Today, the company removed its
:27:22. > :27:27.online claim about single vaccines being the only safe option. But
:27:27. > :27:31.still says its single jabs for measle and rubella offer higher
:27:31. > :27:39.protection than MMR. Its claims are being investigated by Public Health
:27:39. > :27:44.Wales and the medicines regulator, the HMRA. Fears are growing for
:27:44. > :27:48.over one million children in England who have not been vabg
:27:48. > :27:51.vaccinated. While here, doctors will examine how this outbreak has
:27:51. > :27:54.been handled. From past outbreaks, we have had
:27:54. > :27:58.lots of lessons to learn. We will be talking to parents, both of hoz
:27:58. > :28:01.who had the -- those who have had the vaccine and children who
:28:01. > :28:06.haven't to understand what more we could have done. What message would
:28:06. > :28:10.they have heard? What might have made the difference earlier.
:28:10. > :28:15.. In Swansea, Gareth Colfer Williams' family are preparing for
:28:15. > :28:19.his funeral. As they wait to find out what caused his death, they are
:28:19. > :28:26.taking legal advice and want an inquiry into his treatment.