:00:11. > :00:12.This man has just been convicted of sexual grooming online
:00:13. > :00:19.He wasn't caught by police, but by a growing number
:00:20. > :00:27.Tonight we follow a new undercover group ?
:00:28. > :00:33.I can be on some chat sites for three minutes and I get 70 hits
:00:34. > :00:37.But should they be fighting this crime?
:00:38. > :00:39.They shouldn't be undertaking that activity
:00:40. > :00:50.Don't be silly, you are absolutely surrounded in that corner now.
:00:51. > :00:52.And we meet a predator's family ? moved for their own
:00:53. > :01:11.That's the actual stone we had at the window this morning.
:01:12. > :01:18.I'm here to meet Christopher Lane, 24 years old, in south Wales.
:01:19. > :01:20.He's been grooming 13- and 14-year-old children
:01:21. > :01:27.This isn't a police offer, it's a paedophile hunter.
:01:28. > :01:30.His target is a young father in the Gwent valleys who has no idea
:01:31. > :01:38.My name is Rob Hunter from a paedo-hunting
:01:39. > :01:43.The hunter is filming everything to use as evidence.
:01:44. > :01:57.I've all the evidence here off one decoy.
:01:58. > :02:02.Sending pictures of your penis to kids, it's disgusting, you thought
:02:03. > :02:06.Christopher Lane thought he was sending
:02:07. > :02:09.the messages to schoolgirls, in fact it was the hunters.
:02:10. > :02:12.His family and fiance had no idea what he'd been doing.
:02:13. > :02:17.Or that the sting would be broadcast to thousands of hunter fans online.
:02:18. > :02:20.I don't want to do this to you honestly, I'm not
:02:21. > :02:22.here to wreck lives, but he's a paedophile
:02:23. > :02:26.Stings like this are happening more and more often.
:02:27. > :02:29.I do this all the time - this is the third sting I've
:02:30. > :02:33.I don't get paid by the police or anything.
:02:34. > :02:35.I pose as a 13-year-old guy online to catch
:02:36. > :02:38.Hunters are untrained and unregulated.
:02:39. > :02:41.They say they do this not just to catch predators,
:02:42. > :02:55.Lane is one of ten men caught in Wales so far this
:02:56. > :02:58.This sting led to a 92 year old from Abetrillery
:02:59. > :03:03.Ivor Gifford, do you wanna come and sit down?
:03:04. > :03:05.All you've done for a month to two children is talk
:03:06. > :03:11.Hunters told us they don't believe the police have the time
:03:12. > :03:19.or the resources to deal with the threat of online grooming.
:03:20. > :03:22.Around a dozen groups have sprung up around Britain in the last two years
:03:23. > :03:26.helping to convict around 100 online predators.
:03:27. > :03:30.A new undercover group, Petronus, has set up in South Wales.
:03:31. > :03:33.They're uncovering new targets every day.
:03:34. > :03:37.This mum from Newport is one of its decoys.
:03:38. > :03:40.He lives in Leeds and is a bus driver and
:03:41. > :03:48.She's speaking to dozens of suspected
:03:49. > :03:54.OK, so he's just told me what he's having for tea, he's asked me
:03:55. > :04:02.Now he's asking me for another picture of myself, so I'm
:04:03. > :04:11.Oh, he's just sent me a picture of him in the shower.
:04:12. > :04:13.It's the normal being friendly tactic then it
:04:14. > :04:20.will get to the stage he will send a picture of his penis as well.
:04:21. > :04:23.I don't have to put much concersation skills in to this,
:04:24. > :04:30.to be honest, because this is their fantasy.
:04:31. > :04:34.Since Jo and a small team of decoys began hunting in May,
:04:35. > :04:38.they say eight men, including a teacher,
:04:39. > :04:40.have been arrested ? three have already been convicted.
:04:41. > :04:49.I started off because I was a victim of grooming
:04:50. > :04:52.myself when I was 15 and I'd seen quite a lot of stings
:04:53. > :05:02.People in my workplace don't know I do this,
:05:03. > :05:05.I've got family and friends don't know I do this and I'd prefer it
:05:06. > :05:12.that they didn't because people don't
:05:13. > :05:22.It's a bit surreal really, I will be cooking tea, my phone
:05:23. > :05:26.will ding and I have to talk to one of these men I got running
:05:27. > :05:28.round, then I go back to cooking tea and it's kind
:05:29. > :05:33.To catch online predators, the group creates fake profiles
:05:34. > :05:35.with backstories and photos before entering adult chat rooms
:05:36. > :05:43.I can be on some chat sites for three minutes and I got 70 hits
:05:44. > :06:02.This is the man who set up and leads Petronus.
:06:03. > :06:08.He's also asked is not to identify him.
:06:09. > :06:13.I'm an ex-police officer and a survivor
:06:14. > :06:18.For a number of years I've been round hunting groups, helped
:06:19. > :06:23.I've also done my own decoy work anonymously.
:06:24. > :06:26.My aim is to make it much, much harder
:06:27. > :06:32.for these men to feel comfortable on the internet
:06:33. > :06:35.Petronus caught this man - Alan Mullen, a 67-year-old architect
:06:36. > :06:44.He's arriving at court to be sentenced after he admitted sexual
:06:45. > :06:47.grooming online and attempting to meet a child.
:06:48. > :06:51.He was effectively into two of our decoys - he thought
:06:52. > :06:58.The group - which doesn't broadcast its stings live ? recorded
:06:59. > :07:02.hundreds of pages of chat between them and Mullen.
:07:03. > :07:04.He rang one of the decoys who was posing as a child
:07:05. > :07:09.during what Mullen thought was her school lunch break.
:07:10. > :07:19.It's nice to hear your voice at last.
:07:20. > :07:32.No, I'm having it in a minute with my friends.
:07:33. > :07:42.He professed to be this father figure, it was classic grooming,
:07:43. > :07:45.but underlying all that was this horrible sexual deviancy.
:07:46. > :07:49.On the day he thought he'd be meeting
:07:50. > :07:53.the girl in a Newport park, Petronus were waiting.
:07:54. > :07:58.You were going to meet Sam today, weren't you?
:07:59. > :08:02.It was a bit more than that, wasn't it?
:08:03. > :08:06.You may say it wasn't more than that on this occasion.
:08:07. > :08:09.In here is the evidence of what you intended to do
:08:10. > :08:13.The police are quickly on the scene to arrest Mullen.
:08:14. > :08:16.Hunters say many of those caught in stings might still be
:08:17. > :08:22.grooming children online if they hadn't stopped them.
:08:23. > :08:27.And they are not alone in thinking that.
:08:28. > :08:29.At this moment in time, there are far too few police officers
:08:30. > :08:32.and they are far too few officers to be dealing with child
:08:33. > :08:37.Jim Gamble used to head CEOP the child exploitation
:08:38. > :08:43.I think it's fair to say it's a tsunami, it's almost
:08:44. > :08:49.There could be over 100,000 people at any given moment in time in UK
:08:50. > :08:52.downloading indecent images of children.
:08:53. > :08:55.I refuse to believe that the interest is not played out
:08:56. > :08:57.in other aspects of their lives, including the potential
:08:58. > :09:02.Are they more confident now that they perhaps won't get
:09:03. > :09:11.Of course they would because they don't see the resources
:09:12. > :09:13.being invested, they don't see self-minded predators being arrested
:09:14. > :09:17.and brought before the courts day in day out, so when they go online
:09:18. > :09:20.it's a lottery as to whether they get caught
:09:21. > :09:22.and they have to be extremely unlucky to be caught.
:09:23. > :09:27.In some instances, we do need to turn the tables.
:09:28. > :09:31.Mullen was prosecuted because of Petronus.
:09:32. > :09:34.The court heard how he'd been at a low point ? lonely
:09:35. > :09:38.and was physically incapable of sexual intercourse.
:09:39. > :09:42.He was given a 14-month jail sentence, suspended for two years.
:09:43. > :09:45.And he'll be on the sex offenders register for ten.
:09:46. > :09:52.Ashamed and deeply regret the situation.
:09:53. > :10:05.How do you feel about the hunter group?
:10:06. > :10:15.You are now a registered sex offender how do you feel about that?
:10:16. > :10:19.Is this something you are going to be doing again in the future?
:10:20. > :10:23.This hunter group says it can't keep up with the sheer numbers
:10:24. > :10:28.of predators attempting to groom their online decoys.
:10:29. > :10:35.I've got another 14 people who are actively talking to me.
:10:36. > :10:42.And I have another a 91 people lined up now.
:10:43. > :10:45.They've all shown interest in my decoy.
:10:46. > :11:00.The most upsetting thing for me is the ones we are not
:11:01. > :11:04.I'm almost certain if they are talking to a decoy then
:11:05. > :11:08.they are talking to a live child and that keeps me up at night.
:11:09. > :11:10.Why not hand it over to the police at that point?
:11:11. > :11:14.You have got the evidence, give it to the police, they can go pick
:11:15. > :11:18.No doubt at all, no doubt at all, they just don't have the time
:11:19. > :11:22.in order for them to do any sort of proactive work they are far
:11:23. > :11:24.too busy reacting to cases at the moment.
:11:25. > :11:26.The police insist they will always respond to concerns
:11:27. > :11:33.And they warn that, however well meaning,
:11:34. > :11:34.hunters could compromise investigations and should
:11:35. > :11:39.Jonanthan Drake is the lead officer in Operation Netsafe, which combats
:11:40. > :11:44.child-sexual exploitation across Wales.
:11:45. > :11:47.They shouldn't be undertaking that activity in the first place,
:11:48. > :11:52.Under-cover policing of that nature should not be for members
:11:53. > :12:00.How else are we going to catch these people?
:12:01. > :12:03.There's men in jail so far this year in Wales, several
:12:04. > :12:05.of them as a result of this type of intelligence.
:12:06. > :12:07.We've invested significantly in dedicating resourcing to tackle
:12:08. > :12:12.We work with law enforcement agencies globally, we work
:12:13. > :12:17.with National Crime Agency, use cutting-edge technology as well
:12:18. > :12:25.to root out offending in all its forms, including CSE,
:12:26. > :12:28.and we'll continue to do that until we're sure
:12:29. > :12:31.Police told us 179 people were arrested in the first nine
:12:32. > :12:33.months of Operation Netsafe and that has safeguarded
:12:34. > :12:40.It's not clear how many of the cases involved catching people
:12:41. > :12:48.Hunter groups say whatever is being done, it's not enough
:12:49. > :12:53.and, what's more, there's public support for them.
:12:54. > :12:56.Another new group has been set up, this time in Cwmbran by former
:12:57. > :12:58.prison officer Nicholas Young, who was inspired after watching
:12:59. > :13:13.It was all about the passion and it made me think
:13:14. > :13:15.this is important to this person, it's important
:13:16. > :13:23.to a community - that's what made me think I have got to do this.
:13:24. > :13:27.The incredible sense of community spirit was overpowering.
:13:28. > :13:34.I had 318 men offer to help when I first started
:13:35. > :13:46.I had 30-50 women offer to help, it was immense ? offering financial
:13:47. > :13:50.help, sim cards, mobile phones, anything they could do to help.
:13:51. > :13:52.One of them is this grandfather from Cardiff.
:13:53. > :13:55.By day he works in construction, by night he poses
:13:56. > :14:04.He's briefing Nicholas on his latest investigation.
:14:05. > :14:07.What time did you stop doing this last night?
:14:08. > :14:12.I was online until three or four o'clock and he did ask why I was up
:14:13. > :14:17.so late and I said my mum was sleeping and I was using
:14:18. > :14:27.He was asking me to watch porn and he was asking me to do things
:14:28. > :14:32.I said I can't watch that because my mum will know I've
:14:33. > :14:39.But he kept telling me what to do - go incognito and then you can
:14:40. > :14:44.So he even told you how to by pass your parents?
:14:45. > :14:48.Like other hunters, he says it's all too easy to find men
:14:49. > :14:53.This fake 15 year old is about to enter an adult chat room
:14:54. > :15:16.There's three people speaking to me in less than three minutes.
:15:17. > :15:21.Or if he says, sorry, you are too young.
:15:22. > :15:40.Within six sentences and he's asking me that.
:15:41. > :15:45.He's asking how small my breasts are.
:15:46. > :15:50.I'm glad it's me he's talking to and not a 15-year-old girl.
:15:51. > :15:54.The Home Office says it's given the National Crime Agency an extra
:15:55. > :15:56.?10 million to nearly double its capacity to investigate
:15:57. > :16:02.Another ?20 million is earmarked for the next three years.
:16:03. > :16:10.But According to Jim Gamble, it's still not enough.
:16:11. > :16:13.As we sit here today, I doubt there are more than 30
:16:14. > :16:17.officers across the UK who are actually online,
:16:18. > :16:24.at this very moment in time masquerading undercover to engage
:16:25. > :16:27.that low hanging fruit which is out there looking for the "Jessica 13"
:16:28. > :16:37.From talking to police officers round the UK from the role
:16:38. > :16:40.I have in safeguarding, the role that I'm
:16:41. > :16:46.They simply haven't got the resource to meet this head-on
:16:47. > :16:49.or to even create an active and meaningful deterrent.
:16:50. > :16:53.The National Police Chiefs Council insists there are more than 30
:16:54. > :16:54.but they wouldn't tell us how many more.
:16:55. > :17:00.I'm not going to give you details around the police
:17:01. > :17:08.tactics that are used, but what I can say is that we use
:17:09. > :17:09.a mixture of all different types of tactics, both
:17:10. > :17:13.technical solutions and we work importantly with law enforcement
:17:14. > :17:18.Just roughly, though, are we talking dozens,
:17:19. > :17:21.hundreds in Wales of officers working to try to protect children?
:17:22. > :17:23.Specifically around online policing, if you like,
:17:24. > :17:25.and undercover policing, I'm not prepared to give
:17:26. > :17:34.The internet was used in more than 1,500 child sexual offences
:17:35. > :17:40.Police are catching predators, but unlike hunters, they don't
:17:41. > :17:50.Police arrested Christopher Lane and he was remanded in custody
:17:51. > :17:54.after a hunter's sting at his home near Blackwood.
:17:55. > :17:57.A few days later, we visited and discovered it was his parents
:17:58. > :18:07.That's the stone we had at the window this morning ? we had
:18:08. > :18:23.That's one of the reasons I'm too scared to go out.
:18:24. > :18:29.Because I don't know what is going to happen to me.
:18:30. > :18:32.The man had no right to actually video it off his phone
:18:33. > :18:41.Lane's mother, Ann, who is disabled by cancer and is bedridden,
:18:42. > :18:47.We had stones lobbed at the back window, bits of breezeblocks,
:18:48. > :18:56.Two blokes come around and said to him, they knocked the door...
:18:57. > :19:05.And that's when they said, you'll need to watch your back.
:19:06. > :19:18.Nonces, paedophiles, stuff like that, then the first
:19:19. > :19:28.I've been told anyone shouting abuse, I've been
:19:29. > :19:36.told I got to log it, what they say, time it,
:19:37. > :19:56.Of them trying to set the house on fire, because I can't move.
:19:57. > :19:58.Like he said, it makes us feel like prisoners
:19:59. > :20:03.Lane's ex-fiancee Jessica immediately ended their relationship
:20:04. > :20:07.and moved out with their baby daughter.
:20:08. > :20:18.Every page I looked through, I was getting sicker by the minute,
:20:19. > :20:23.my stomach was turning and the fact he was doing it while being with me
:20:24. > :20:32.The long-term consequences that he's not gonna deal with is the fact that
:20:33. > :20:35.when our daughter gets older and she finds out about this
:20:36. > :20:40.I will have to deal with all the questions she's gonna give me,
:20:41. > :20:51.He didn't love her enough to be able to stop them friggin' urges
:20:52. > :20:54.that he had to go talk to underage children who are just
:20:55. > :21:01.The Lanes can make no sense of what their son did or what's
:21:02. > :21:12.I just don't know what went wrong with him.
:21:13. > :21:30.A mother should protect their children.
:21:31. > :21:41.I just don't want to know him as a son.
:21:42. > :21:44.Jessica says their ordeal has been made worse by the hunter
:21:45. > :21:46.featuring her and Lane's father in the sting.
:21:47. > :21:48.He didn't even say he was gonna do it.
:21:49. > :21:52.No-one should have put the videos on that quick
:21:53. > :21:59.Me or his family didn't have a clue what was going on.
:22:00. > :22:00.Think about the family and the aftermath,
:22:01. > :22:14.They have been basically bullied because of it all.
:22:15. > :22:17.I'm meeting Jeff Cuthbert, Gwent's Police and Crime Commissioner.
:22:18. > :22:23.Hunters have done more stings in his patch than in any
:22:24. > :22:29.I understand in this and many other aspects of crime or antisocial
:22:30. > :22:32.behaviour that there is often an impatience and I can
:22:33. > :22:35.understand that when people want to get on with things.
:22:36. > :22:38.There are now several dangerous individuals in jail because of these
:22:39. > :22:43.Yeah, and that's good when the evidence is presented to us
:22:44. > :22:50.We can get a conviction, it is great, I suppose, in one sense.
:22:51. > :22:57.What we don't know, of course, is how many potential perpetrators
:22:58. > :22:59.have got away with it because it's not been
:23:00. > :23:00.done properly or walked away
:23:01. > :23:04.cos it's not stood up in court, so it is an issue of balance.
:23:05. > :23:09.Petronus is investigating a new case - a man who says he wants
:23:10. > :23:17.to meet their decoy, who he thinks is 14.
:23:18. > :23:19.He's sent explicit pictures, videos of himself masturbating.
:23:20. > :23:22.He's arranged to come and meet the decoy.
:23:23. > :23:30.That's someone who is potentially very dangerous who's out there.
:23:31. > :23:32.The police could knock on his door sooner.
:23:33. > :23:34.The police as you know are quite stretched at the moment,
:23:35. > :23:37.to go and get that gentleman it'll take a lot more time
:23:38. > :23:48.The police insist that hunter groups are wrong to take risks like this.
:23:49. > :23:50.At Cardiff Crown Court, Christopher Lane is
:23:51. > :24:00.His parents have no sympathy for him.
:24:01. > :24:04.He'll just have to learn his lesson the hard way.
:24:05. > :24:12.He should have realised in what he was doing.
:24:13. > :24:15.Lane was jailed for two years and eight months and is now
:24:16. > :24:21.He made his bed, he's got to lie in it.
:24:22. > :24:35.But they are now suffering on the outside.
:24:36. > :24:38.A day after we filmed Michael and Ann, police and the council
:24:39. > :24:44.moved them to a secret address for their own safety.
:24:45. > :24:54.This is what's happened to the house they called home for 26 years.
:24:55. > :24:57.I get what paedophile hunters do, but there's families who have
:24:58. > :25:04.It could put his mam in an early grave.
:25:05. > :25:19.I wanted to take my own life because I couldn't take the stress.
:25:20. > :25:22.If I didn't have my daughter, I wouldn't have anything to live
:25:23. > :25:25.for cos of what he's done to me ? he's really destroyed
:25:26. > :25:33.If he's a paedophile, I don't sympathise with him at all.
:25:34. > :25:39.But the fact is there's processes in place for a reason.
:25:40. > :25:44.When you carry out an investigation, people are innocent
:25:45. > :25:47.Streaming it live is about sensation.
:25:48. > :25:50.Streaming it live is largely about self promotion, in my opinion.
:25:51. > :25:52.Live streaming before someone's been through the process,
:25:53. > :25:59.The man who confronted Lane is Rob Hunter.
:26:00. > :26:06.He's repeatedly refused to talk to us about the sting
:26:07. > :26:17.It's Paul Heaney here from BBC Wales.
:26:18. > :26:24.I'm recording this call for our programme.
:26:25. > :26:32.I'm going to try him one more time...
:26:33. > :26:34.I'm not sure if we were cut off then.
:26:35. > :26:39.I'd like to talk to you about the effect you have
:26:40. > :26:43.Listen to me, I told you and colleague if you continue
:26:44. > :26:45.to contact me, I'm going to the police for harassment.
:26:46. > :26:49.We'd be happy to speak to the police, Mr Minto.
:26:50. > :26:52.Why didn't you call the police instead of filming a family,
:26:53. > :26:59.They had to leave the home they've lived in for over 20 years cos
:27:00. > :27:03.We went out to do what we set out to do.
:27:04. > :27:05.We have exposed a paedophile, you are not happy with it,
:27:06. > :27:08.they are not happy with it, they have moved for
:27:09. > :27:12.their own accord, that's nothing to do with me.
:27:13. > :27:14.The problem is, Mr Minto, you filmed his family as well.
:27:15. > :27:16.They didn't have anything to do with it.
:27:17. > :27:19.His family decided to come into the video, mate.
:27:20. > :27:23.Why are you happy to film other people, Mr Minto,
:27:24. > :27:26.but you are not happy to speak to us?
:27:27. > :27:31.He clearly doesn't want to answer any more questions about what he's
:27:32. > :27:33.been doing or how he's been doing it.
:27:34. > :27:36.It's because of the unintended harm that some hunters can cause that
:27:37. > :27:38.Jim Gamble wants police to recruit and train an army
:27:39. > :27:48.I'd like to see the Government engage in a sensible
:27:49. > :27:52.conversation about how we can educate and empower ordinary
:27:53. > :27:54.citizens across the UK by giving them the opportunity
:27:55. > :27:58.to sign up to a special digital detectives programme.
:27:59. > :28:01.And we could bring in volunteers into police stations
:28:02. > :28:08.across the country and we turn the tables on the predator.
:28:09. > :28:11.This is a tactic that's going to be low cost,
:28:12. > :28:17.engage local communities in doing what most of us want,
:28:18. > :28:21.The Policing Minister Nick Hurd declined to be interviewed but says
:28:22. > :28:23.people should allow the police and law enforcement agencies
:28:24. > :28:27.to do their vital work by not taking the law into their own hands.
:28:28. > :28:30.The Home Office wouldn't comment on Jim Gamble's idea.
:28:31. > :28:32.Petronus say they would welcome regulation for hunter groups.
:28:33. > :28:45.If it's becoming public knowledge there's a whole army of paedophile
:28:46. > :28:49.hunters out there fully trained and regulated they are to stop
:28:50. > :29:01.This is probably the worst, most serious offence he has committed.
:29:02. > :29:03.Tonight, Will and Jo are about to sting the man
:29:04. > :29:05.who wants to meet the decoy at Newport train station.
:29:06. > :29:11.He's basically communicating with one 14-year-old
:29:12. > :29:14.girl and getting her to speak to her friend and persuading
:29:15. > :29:17.the girl into a sexual liaison with him and the first girl.
:29:18. > :29:20.They say he's on a two-hour journey from his home
:29:21. > :29:23.because he thinks the girls will be home alone tonight.
:29:24. > :29:27.He's sent instructions to both children on how do
:29:28. > :29:36.She says the man's been texting her from the train.
:29:37. > :29:39.He sent me to bed at one point in preparation for tonight cos he's
:29:40. > :29:48.planning an all-nighter with me and my friend.
:29:49. > :29:50.They don't know anything about the target's background,
:29:51. > :29:52.whether he's violent, or whether they'll be
:29:53. > :29:58.So why not call in Gwent Police sooner?
:29:59. > :30:01.I just don't think if we put this file to them midweek
:30:02. > :30:04.that they would have done this as quickly cos of resource issues.
:30:05. > :30:07.If they don't respond immediately and we stop the conversation,
:30:08. > :30:12.He will go back into chat rooms looking for real children.
:30:13. > :30:16.I take responsibility for that ? I will not hand
:30:17. > :30:20.The train arrives and they spot the target.
:30:21. > :30:38.You are absolutely surrounded - in that corner now.
:30:39. > :30:56.I'm outside Newport train station on Queensway on the pavement.
:30:57. > :31:08.The suspect is shown the graphic chat log.
:31:09. > :31:12.This girl, she told you she was 14 years of age who you are coming here
:31:13. > :31:15.to meet, who you are coming here to have sex with.
:31:16. > :31:16.OK, that's wonderful, thanks then goodbye.
:31:17. > :31:19.You didn't come here for a fantasy, did you, you didn't come
:31:20. > :31:23.Do you realise how serious the situation is?
:31:24. > :31:26.We are done ? the rest of it is interview in the police station.
:31:27. > :31:30.The man was charged with online grooming offences
:31:31. > :31:38.He's the eighth man in Gwent alone to be arrested because of hunters
:31:39. > :31:44.The National Police Chiefs Council may not want hunters to continue
:31:45. > :31:47.doing this but the Police and Crime Commissioner for Gwent
:31:48. > :31:53.says it's time senior officers and hunters got around the table.
:31:54. > :32:02.I am very prepared to raise these matters now and it's growing public
:32:03. > :32:15.To look at the operational on both occasions with the Chief Constable.
:32:16. > :32:17.Bringing them in as a special constable or volunteer and giving
:32:18. > :32:20.them training ? a potentially good idea, then, you think?
:32:21. > :32:22.Yes, of course there are training implications.
:32:23. > :32:25.It would have to be done in a planned way,
:32:26. > :32:27.but I think in terms of the principle it's
:32:28. > :32:31.Next week, hunter groups will be discussed at the All Wales meeting
:32:32. > :32:39.Nicholas Young and his decoys have given South Wales Police a file
:32:40. > :32:45.Let's get the whole scenario to work for everybody.
:32:46. > :32:55.The Lanes are still living at a secret address
:32:56. > :32:57.while they search for a new home and a fresh start, away
:32:58. > :33:05.Jessica has a warning for predators like her ex-fiance.
:33:06. > :33:08.Don't wreck your life cos you want a bit of fun here and there.
:33:09. > :33:14.You are going to wreck your family's life, lose everything.
:33:15. > :33:20.There is no point in it, there really isn't.
:33:21. > :33:22.And Petronus say it's currently looking at 100 suspects and has
:33:23. > :33:28.I will show them up for what they are ? they are monsters,
:33:29. > :33:36.This group says it won't stop hunting because it knows