0:00:02 > 0:00:04It's a year since he was elected.
0:00:04 > 0:00:06Are you used to it yet?
0:00:08 > 0:00:13I will faithfully execute the office of President of the United States.
0:00:13 > 0:00:15- So help me God.- So help me God.
0:00:15 > 0:00:17Congratulations, Mr President.
0:00:19 > 0:00:21President Trump is half Scottish.
0:00:21 > 0:00:23His mother was born here.
0:00:23 > 0:00:27But his relationship with Scotland has been full of controversy.
0:00:28 > 0:00:32Show me a part of Scottish society that came out the better
0:00:32 > 0:00:36for Donald Trump having arrived - I don't think there is one.
0:00:36 > 0:00:39More than a decade ago, he came here to build
0:00:39 > 0:00:43what he said would be the world's greatest golf course...
0:00:43 > 0:00:48Any golfer that comes here is in awe of what we've created
0:00:48 > 0:00:51and what nature has let us create.
0:00:51 > 0:00:56..but has the Trump resort delivered what was promised?
0:00:56 > 0:00:58I think the one thing that should be said about it
0:00:58 > 0:01:00is the people putting it forward
0:01:00 > 0:01:02did not live up and honour the agreements
0:01:02 > 0:01:04they'd made to the Scottish people.
0:01:04 > 0:01:08This is the story of Scotland's difficult relationship
0:01:08 > 0:01:10with President Trump.
0:01:10 > 0:01:12Donald Trump is Scottish enough
0:01:12 > 0:01:14to qualify for our national football team,
0:01:14 > 0:01:17yet he's drawn far more protest than praise
0:01:17 > 0:01:19in the country of his ancestors...
0:01:20 > 0:01:26..and maybe that's why getting to speak to him has proved so tricky.
0:01:26 > 0:01:27Glenn Campbell from BBC Scotland.
0:01:27 > 0:01:30Have you got a moment to have a word?
0:01:30 > 0:01:31Absolutely not. What are you doing here?
0:01:31 > 0:01:33You're fake news. Get out of here.
0:01:33 > 0:01:35Get him out of here. Hey, get him out of here.
0:01:44 > 0:01:48I cover Scottish politics, and, over the last decade or so,
0:01:48 > 0:01:51that's also meant covering Donald Trump
0:01:51 > 0:01:54and his battle to build a golf resort near Aberdeen.
0:01:56 > 0:01:58There's nothing like it.
0:01:58 > 0:02:00Good. I hope you enjoy it.
0:02:00 > 0:02:02I hope everybody enjoys it.
0:02:02 > 0:02:04Good to be back in Scotland again?
0:02:04 > 0:02:05Great to be back in Scotland.
0:02:07 > 0:02:09CAMERA SHUTTERS CLICK
0:02:09 > 0:02:12Now, nobody knew Trump could do that, right?
0:02:12 > 0:02:13That's a pretty good shot.
0:02:17 > 0:02:19Go back more than a century
0:02:19 > 0:02:23and this is where the story of Donald Trump and Scotland began.
0:02:24 > 0:02:28As the President likes to remind us, his mother was a Scot.
0:02:28 > 0:02:31My mother was born, as you know, in Stornoway -
0:02:31 > 0:02:34and I think I'm doing Scotland a tremendous favour,
0:02:34 > 0:02:37and I think my mother would be very, very proud of me.
0:02:37 > 0:02:40Mary Anne MacLeod was born on Lewis in 1912
0:02:40 > 0:02:42and grew up across the bay
0:02:42 > 0:02:45from the island's capital, Stornoway.
0:02:46 > 0:02:50Her father had a little post office and shop in town.
0:02:50 > 0:02:52They had a croft there.
0:02:52 > 0:02:53With a big family,
0:02:53 > 0:02:56there was certainly no doubt most of them would have to leave.
0:02:56 > 0:02:58Mary Anne Trump, Mary Anne MacLeod, as she was,
0:02:58 > 0:03:02is an example of somebody who left these islands
0:03:02 > 0:03:06for a new life in the New World, if you like. Why do you think she left?
0:03:07 > 0:03:09Why do young people want to leave?
0:03:09 > 0:03:11Because they want a job somewhere else.
0:03:11 > 0:03:12Because they want something new,
0:03:12 > 0:03:14because they want to be away from their parents for a while.
0:03:14 > 0:03:16They want to see the world.
0:03:17 > 0:03:21Mary Anne came home to the island throughout her life...
0:03:23 > 0:03:27..and she maintained a strong connection with her church.
0:03:29 > 0:03:32This is where Donald Trump's mum worshipped as a child.
0:03:32 > 0:03:34She'd walk four miles
0:03:34 > 0:03:38to attend Sunday services in Gaelic here in Stornoway -
0:03:38 > 0:03:41and we're told the family had their regular pew
0:03:41 > 0:03:45in the upper gallery, but that Mary Anne,
0:03:45 > 0:03:49when she returned to the island in later years as Mrs Trump,
0:03:49 > 0:03:51would sit towards the back, over here.
0:03:51 > 0:03:56In case anyone is in any doubt about Donald Trump's Scottish heritage,
0:03:56 > 0:03:59it's all recorded in the church's records.
0:03:59 > 0:04:03So, here, in 1913, we've got Mary Anne,
0:04:03 > 0:04:09daughter of Malcolm MacLeod and Mary Smith of Tong, born May 1912,
0:04:09 > 0:04:13and baptised in this very church in the following year.
0:04:15 > 0:04:20The church organist remembers seeing Mrs Trump in the congregation.
0:04:20 > 0:04:22I think that the last time I saw her,
0:04:22 > 0:04:26I noticed that she was talking in her native Gaelic,
0:04:26 > 0:04:28so, she never forgot her roots,
0:04:28 > 0:04:31she never forgot what would have been her mother tongue.
0:04:31 > 0:04:35That seems incredible, after maybe 60, 70 years.
0:04:35 > 0:04:39She obviously was a remarkable person,
0:04:39 > 0:04:44and...she loved returning back every year to visit.
0:04:48 > 0:04:53Donald Trump was not quite such a regular visitor to Lewis.
0:04:53 > 0:04:56In fact, he came once, as a boy, and that was it
0:04:56 > 0:05:00until his high-profile homecoming in 2008.
0:05:01 > 0:05:05I've been hearing about Stornoway and Lewis for many years
0:05:05 > 0:05:07from my mother, and it's very much as I thought.
0:05:07 > 0:05:09It's beautiful in every way.
0:05:11 > 0:05:14I wanted to see it again, for the second time.
0:05:14 > 0:05:16The first time, I was very young -
0:05:16 > 0:05:17but I wanted to see it a second time,
0:05:17 > 0:05:20and I'm very glad I did, and I'll be back again.
0:05:22 > 0:05:27Eyewitnesses said he spent about 90 seconds in his ancestral home...
0:05:31 > 0:05:33..but the fact that the Donald came
0:05:33 > 0:05:37caused far more fuss than Lewis is used to.
0:05:40 > 0:05:43The level of interest was quite noticeable,
0:05:43 > 0:05:47because a lot of people gathered to see his plane coming in,
0:05:47 > 0:05:50and when he was down at his relatives' house,
0:05:50 > 0:05:52there was a level of interest then.
0:05:52 > 0:05:54He hadn't visited the island many times,
0:05:54 > 0:05:57so I think a lot of people were a bit sceptical about it,
0:05:57 > 0:05:59maybe thought it was just drumming up support
0:05:59 > 0:06:01for some of the projects he had in mind -
0:06:01 > 0:06:03and many felt, I think,
0:06:03 > 0:06:06there was a touch of the less than serious about it,
0:06:06 > 0:06:09and he was just sort of showing face to further his interest elsewhere.
0:06:16 > 0:06:20The Western Isles are unique, set apart by geography,
0:06:20 > 0:06:23by the Gaelic language and culture,
0:06:23 > 0:06:25and by the relative strength of religion.
0:06:28 > 0:06:32The way of life here is a world away from New York,
0:06:32 > 0:06:35where Donald Trump was born and brought
0:06:35 > 0:06:38up by a mother immersed in island values.
0:06:39 > 0:06:44Values like respect for other people, genuine compassion,
0:06:44 > 0:06:46concern to help other people practically...
0:06:46 > 0:06:52..and a sense of what community life is like on an island.
0:06:53 > 0:06:54Values like those, I think,
0:06:54 > 0:06:56would have been very much part
0:06:56 > 0:06:58of what he would have been brought up with.
0:06:58 > 0:07:00Do you think he has rejected those values?
0:07:00 > 0:07:02Well, I'm not saying...
0:07:02 > 0:07:03I wouldn't say he's rejected them,
0:07:03 > 0:07:07but possibly found them more and more difficult to follow through
0:07:07 > 0:07:11in his business work, or now, in his political life.
0:07:11 > 0:07:14I don't think the island, the folk here,
0:07:14 > 0:07:16would ever say it's wrong to be wealthy
0:07:16 > 0:07:18or wrong to aspire to wealth,
0:07:18 > 0:07:20as long as you don't make that your God.
0:07:32 > 0:07:36The Western Isles have riches of their own.
0:07:36 > 0:07:43Natural beauty, unspoiled, an incredible sense of peace,
0:07:43 > 0:07:45a slower pace...
0:07:54 > 0:07:57..and all that Mary Ann MacLeod left behind.
0:08:00 > 0:08:04When Donald Trump's mother set out across the Atlantic for America,
0:08:04 > 0:08:09she swapped the hills and machair for the skyscrapers of Manhattan,
0:08:09 > 0:08:14the peace and tranquillity of island life for the bustle and brashness
0:08:14 > 0:08:15of the big city,
0:08:15 > 0:08:20and the subsistence way of life the MacLeods had known for generations
0:08:20 > 0:08:22for a new pursuit of wealth and power
0:08:22 > 0:08:25when she married Fred Trump.
0:08:30 > 0:08:34This is where Mary Anne arrived in 1930.
0:08:35 > 0:08:40The 18-year-old worked as a maid and sent money home to her family...
0:08:40 > 0:08:42..and her fortunes soon improved,
0:08:42 > 0:08:44as her son's biographer explained
0:08:44 > 0:08:48outside one of the many Trump-branded buildings in New York.
0:08:50 > 0:08:54When she met Fred Trump, it was almost a gift from heaven.
0:08:54 > 0:08:59In the 1970s, Fred Trump, Donald's father,
0:08:59 > 0:09:02had wealth in excess of 200 million.
0:09:02 > 0:09:07This made him one of the wealthiest people in America, if not the world.
0:09:07 > 0:09:15She was a strange combination of penurious but also flashy and showy.
0:09:15 > 0:09:19So she would drive around from building to building
0:09:19 > 0:09:21in a Rolls-Royce to collect the coins
0:09:21 > 0:09:25put in the automatic washers and dryers at Trump buildings.
0:09:25 > 0:09:30How much of an influence was Mary Anne MacLeod,
0:09:30 > 0:09:34or Trump, as she became, on her second son?
0:09:37 > 0:09:44I think that she taught him the value of getting attention.
0:09:44 > 0:09:47You know, his mum was an attention-seeking woman.
0:09:47 > 0:09:50If there was a party, she was the centre of attention -
0:09:50 > 0:09:55and I think Donald inherited that desire, and also that ability.
0:09:58 > 0:10:02Donald Trump is as bold and brash as New York itself,
0:10:02 > 0:10:06his aggressive style moulded by the city he calls home.
0:10:08 > 0:10:13Photographer Harry Benson moved here from Scotland in the 1960s.
0:10:13 > 0:10:17He's taken pictures of every US President since Eisenhower,
0:10:17 > 0:10:21and has known Donald Trump for more than 40 years.
0:10:21 > 0:10:24Here's Trump with his mother.
0:10:24 > 0:10:26That's his brother's wife.
0:10:26 > 0:10:29So, this is Trump's first wife, Ivana, is that right?
0:10:29 > 0:10:33Ivana, yes. I was in a restaurant
0:10:33 > 0:10:37about a month ago with my wife and a friend...
0:10:38 > 0:10:40..and she was on the table across from me,
0:10:40 > 0:10:45and, as I'm leaving, said, "Harry, come here," gave me a kiss -
0:10:45 > 0:10:51and I'm no more than six inches apart, and she says to me,
0:10:51 > 0:10:54"Shit happens."
0:10:54 > 0:10:55- Ivana?- Yes.
0:10:55 > 0:10:58Now, that's not saying he's doing a good job...
0:11:00 > 0:11:03How well did you get to know Donald Trump down the years?
0:11:03 > 0:11:04Yeah, fair enough.
0:11:04 > 0:11:07You know, he was always quite easy,
0:11:07 > 0:11:09and...
0:11:10 > 0:11:12He was quite pleasant.
0:11:12 > 0:11:14He loved being photographed...
0:11:15 > 0:11:17..and...
0:11:18 > 0:11:23Then again, you've got friends, you know...
0:11:23 > 0:11:25You know they are not fit to be Prime Minister.
0:11:27 > 0:11:30Donald Trump falls into that with me.
0:11:30 > 0:11:33When Donald Trump started planning
0:11:33 > 0:11:35his new golf resort in Aberdeenshire,
0:11:35 > 0:11:38Harry offered him some location advice.
0:11:39 > 0:11:42It's the coldest place you can ever find.
0:11:42 > 0:11:43- Aberdeenshire?- Yeah.
0:11:43 > 0:11:48I said, you know, you should have gone to the west of Scotland.
0:11:48 > 0:11:52Donald Trump didn't publicly parade his plans to invest in Scotland
0:11:52 > 0:11:54straight away, but in the months
0:11:54 > 0:11:58after New York's Tartan Day celebrations in 2005,
0:11:58 > 0:12:02the then First Minister caught wind of what was going on.
0:12:03 > 0:12:05We heard that...
0:12:07 > 0:12:09..he was looking for one of his next investments
0:12:09 > 0:12:11to be somewhere in Europe.
0:12:11 > 0:12:15When it was suggested that I meet him, on a visit to New York,
0:12:15 > 0:12:19the possibility that he could choose Scotland rather than somewhere else
0:12:19 > 0:12:22in Europe for his next big investment,
0:12:22 > 0:12:26it seemed like an opportunity that was worth at least exploring.
0:12:30 > 0:12:33In that meeting, Jack McConnell found out
0:12:33 > 0:12:38just how strange doing business with Mr Trump could be.
0:12:38 > 0:12:42When we had the media conference in the lobby of Trump Tower,
0:12:42 > 0:12:44he hinted there was a microphone,
0:12:44 > 0:12:47that he was taping the media exchange...
0:12:48 > 0:12:50..and I thought, "Oh, that's interesting."
0:12:50 > 0:12:55So, when we went behind the scenes to sit down and have lunch together,
0:12:55 > 0:12:58my first question was, "Where's the microphone?"
0:12:58 > 0:13:01And the microphone was in his tie, it was in the knot of his tie,
0:13:01 > 0:13:05and he explained that this was something he did on a regular basis.
0:13:05 > 0:13:09He occasionally used some of the recording as backdrop
0:13:09 > 0:13:11for The Apprentice programme.
0:13:11 > 0:13:13Were you alarmed by that?
0:13:13 > 0:13:15Well, I wasn't alarmed. I was a bit amused.
0:13:15 > 0:13:17It seemed a really strange thing to be doing -
0:13:17 > 0:13:19but I wasn't having it. So, the ties came off...
0:13:21 > 0:13:22..and were deposited outside the room.
0:13:24 > 0:13:29A US property tycoon, seeking to spend big money in Scotland.
0:13:29 > 0:13:31Well, that's the sort of thing
0:13:31 > 0:13:35that gets politicians and government agencies really excited.
0:13:36 > 0:13:38Back in 2005, Jack Perry's job
0:13:38 > 0:13:41was to make this kind of investment happen.
0:13:42 > 0:13:45At that stage, Jack, how seriously did you take it?
0:13:45 > 0:13:46At that stage, very serious.
0:13:46 > 0:13:48I mean, he was going to do it.
0:13:50 > 0:13:51Pretty certain, by that stage,
0:13:51 > 0:13:53that he was prepared to make the investment.
0:13:53 > 0:13:55He really liked the piece of ground...
0:13:56 > 0:13:58..and had, by that stage,
0:13:58 > 0:14:01done an awful lot of homework on the project.
0:14:01 > 0:14:03And what did he want from you?
0:14:03 > 0:14:07Actually, he certainly wasn't looking for a penny
0:14:07 > 0:14:09of government money, you know?
0:14:09 > 0:14:13He wasn't looking for government subsidy or support in any way.
0:14:13 > 0:14:16We offered him courtesy,
0:14:16 > 0:14:20as we would to any prospective major investor in Scotland.
0:14:25 > 0:14:29Aberdeen was booming when Donald Trump decided to come here,
0:14:29 > 0:14:34but, even then, this area was desperate to diversify its economy
0:14:34 > 0:14:36beyond oil and gas.
0:14:37 > 0:14:39PHONE RINGS
0:14:39 > 0:14:40Good evening, Marcliffe Hotel and Spa,
0:14:40 > 0:14:42Anna speaking, how may I help you?
0:14:42 > 0:14:47Local hotel owner Stewart Spence got behind Trump's resort.
0:14:47 > 0:14:49He felt sure it would make the north-east of Scotland
0:14:49 > 0:14:51a more attractive place to visit.
0:14:53 > 0:14:57I was on the board of Grampian Enterprise at the time,
0:14:57 > 0:15:00and I knew that they'd been doing a feasibility study for somebody
0:15:00 > 0:15:05but, not even as a board member, did I know who it was.
0:15:05 > 0:15:07So when it was finally announced
0:15:07 > 0:15:10that it was going to be Donald Trump,
0:15:10 > 0:15:13I couldn't believe it. I knew that this was a man
0:15:13 > 0:15:18who wouldn't do anything unless it was the best in the world,
0:15:18 > 0:15:21and that was always what he was known for.
0:15:22 > 0:15:26And, so, Donald Trump came to Scotland to buy the Menie Estate,
0:15:26 > 0:15:28just north of Aberdeen -
0:15:28 > 0:15:29but why here?
0:15:31 > 0:15:33Mr Trump had been shown some photographs
0:15:33 > 0:15:35of the extraordinary stretch of land
0:15:35 > 0:15:38along the Menie Estate,
0:15:38 > 0:15:42and he made a decision to come and see it first-hand,
0:15:42 > 0:15:46and he had been looking for a pristine stretch of linksland
0:15:46 > 0:15:50to build his vision of the world's greatest golf course -
0:15:50 > 0:15:51and he was just blown away.
0:15:53 > 0:15:54But there was a problem.
0:15:54 > 0:15:56Some of the land he'd bought
0:15:56 > 0:16:00was under protection as a Site of Special Scientific Interest.
0:16:01 > 0:16:03The shifting sand dune system at Menie
0:16:03 > 0:16:07was one of the finest examples of its kind in the UK.
0:16:08 > 0:16:14So, looking north, we can see the Balmedie dunes and sand domes,
0:16:14 > 0:16:16and those sand domes are highly mobile.
0:16:16 > 0:16:20They move northwards under the prevailing winds here.
0:16:20 > 0:16:22In exactly the same way,
0:16:22 > 0:16:26to the north we have the Menie sand dune system,
0:16:26 > 0:16:29which are a massive sand dome, which also move north,
0:16:29 > 0:16:30at substantial speeds.
0:16:30 > 0:16:35Up to 11 metres per year across an area of about 15 hectares.
0:16:35 > 0:16:37So, this is very much a living landscape?
0:16:37 > 0:16:40It is, it is. It's a dynamic...
0:16:40 > 0:16:42It's almost like a wilderness landscape
0:16:42 > 0:16:44with a minimal amount of human interference.
0:16:49 > 0:16:51It's hard to get planning permission
0:16:51 > 0:16:54to develop a protected sites like Menie,
0:16:54 > 0:16:57but Donald Trump doesn't take no for an answer
0:16:57 > 0:17:01and he was sure the economic opportunity he was offering
0:17:01 > 0:17:04would be too good for Aberdeenshire to turn down.
0:17:05 > 0:17:07We're talking about 7,000 jobs,
0:17:07 > 0:17:12we're talking about hundreds of millions of pounds of investment.
0:17:12 > 0:17:15The course itself would be extremely expensive to build.
0:17:15 > 0:17:19The whole project will be an extremely expensive project.
0:17:19 > 0:17:21A billion-dollar project at least.
0:17:21 > 0:17:24In this case, 2 billion or £1 billion
0:17:24 > 0:17:27to come into Aberdeenshire, to come into Scotland.
0:17:29 > 0:17:34The numbers were repeated so often they became firmly established.
0:17:34 > 0:17:39It would be a £1 billion development creating thousands of jobs.
0:17:39 > 0:17:41This quiet stretch of coastline
0:17:41 > 0:17:44would become a world-famous golf resort
0:17:44 > 0:17:50with two pristine courses, a big hotel and hundreds of homes.
0:17:50 > 0:17:51It was a tempting offer -
0:17:51 > 0:17:56but was it more attractive than the natural habitat it would replace?
0:17:56 > 0:17:59That was the decision for the small group of councillors
0:17:59 > 0:18:01who took the final vote.
0:18:01 > 0:18:04The planning committee was not asked to vote
0:18:04 > 0:18:06on whether the applicant was a nice man.
0:18:06 > 0:18:09We were being asked to take a land use planning decision,
0:18:09 > 0:18:11and it was a 7-7 tie -
0:18:11 > 0:18:13and I had voted for the motion to refuse,
0:18:13 > 0:18:17and I used my casting vote for the same motion the second time,
0:18:17 > 0:18:21and that was the council's decision, to refuse planning permission.
0:18:21 > 0:18:24He used his casting vote, so, in effect, he voted twice,
0:18:24 > 0:18:27to throw the investment opportunity out.
0:18:27 > 0:18:33I lived in Aberdeen at the time, and there was a public outcry.
0:18:33 > 0:18:37I called them traitors because they couldn't see the bigger picture.
0:18:37 > 0:18:40I think it sends out a devastating message
0:18:40 > 0:18:42that, you want to do big business,
0:18:42 > 0:18:45don't do it in the north-east of Scotland.
0:18:45 > 0:18:46Thank you.
0:18:46 > 0:18:50I was profoundly dismayed, I must admit.
0:18:50 > 0:18:54I found it hard to credit.
0:18:55 > 0:18:56You're saying no to Donald Trump?
0:18:56 > 0:18:58At this time, remember,
0:18:58 > 0:19:00this was before he was involved in politics
0:19:00 > 0:19:03and had the kind of toxic brand that he has now.
0:19:04 > 0:19:07Within days of Trump's plans being thrown out,
0:19:07 > 0:19:10First Minister Alex Salmond stepped in.
0:19:10 > 0:19:12As the local MSP,
0:19:12 > 0:19:15he met Trump representatives at the Marcliffe Hotel
0:19:15 > 0:19:19and put them in direct contact with Scotland's chief planner.
0:19:19 > 0:19:20The very next day,
0:19:20 > 0:19:24the Scottish Government called in the application,
0:19:24 > 0:19:27allowing the council's decision to be reconsidered.
0:19:27 > 0:19:31Mr Salmond's critics accused him of misusing his office
0:19:31 > 0:19:33and interfering in the planning process,
0:19:33 > 0:19:38but a Holyrood inquiry later found he'd not broken the rules.
0:19:38 > 0:19:41As one of Trump's neighbours at Menie,
0:19:41 > 0:19:45David Milne always objected to having a golf resort
0:19:45 > 0:19:47on his doorstep.
0:19:47 > 0:19:51How did you feel about that decision by the Scottish Government
0:19:51 > 0:19:55to call in this application and breathe new life into it?
0:19:55 > 0:19:58Disbelief. I couldn't believe they'd been stupid enough
0:19:58 > 0:20:01to fall for the PR story they'd been given.
0:20:01 > 0:20:05When we heard the story and we heard that Alex Salmond had been involved
0:20:05 > 0:20:10with the Marcliffe meeting, it added a different context to it,
0:20:10 > 0:20:13bearing in mind that Alex Salmond is himself an economist.
0:20:13 > 0:20:16It made us quite sad and made us wonder what else is going on
0:20:16 > 0:20:18behind the scenes.
0:20:18 > 0:20:20# Aberdeen... #
0:20:20 > 0:20:21APPLAUSE AND CHEERING
0:20:28 > 0:20:30Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls,
0:20:30 > 0:20:35welcome to the first-ever show of Alex Salmond Unleashed on tour.
0:20:37 > 0:20:40In his show, Alex Salmond takes on President Trump.
0:20:41 > 0:20:46The President of the United States of America!
0:20:46 > 0:20:47Well, sort of.
0:20:47 > 0:20:50Thank you so much, what a wonderful audience.
0:20:50 > 0:20:51Thank you so much.
0:20:51 > 0:20:55It's so good to be here, what a wonderful place to be.
0:20:55 > 0:20:58So nice to see you again, Alex. I'm sorry for what happened.
0:20:59 > 0:21:03But is Alex Salmond sorry he went out of his way to help Donald Trump
0:21:03 > 0:21:05secure his development?
0:21:05 > 0:21:07I was the constituency Member of Parliament.
0:21:07 > 0:21:10I had an obligation as the constituency Member of Parliament
0:21:10 > 0:21:13to do what I thought was best for the local area.
0:21:13 > 0:21:16So, my intervention as a constituency MP
0:21:16 > 0:21:19was to try and take the matter so as it can be re-examined,
0:21:19 > 0:21:22as it eventually was, by a public local inquiry,
0:21:22 > 0:21:24which then made recommendations to the government,
0:21:24 > 0:21:26and I was out of the decision-making loop -
0:21:26 > 0:21:28but many, many people in the north-east of Scotland
0:21:28 > 0:21:31thought this is just what we need to put tourism and golf
0:21:31 > 0:21:34in the north-east of Scotland on the map.
0:21:36 > 0:21:39A year later, after a local planning inquiry,
0:21:39 > 0:21:42the Scottish Government granted outline planning permission
0:21:42 > 0:21:44for the Trump Resort.
0:21:46 > 0:21:48Effectively, the Scottish Government,
0:21:48 > 0:21:50the Scottish ministers, called it in.
0:21:50 > 0:21:53They lodged the appeal for the applicant on his behalf -
0:21:53 > 0:21:56and, in the process, of course,
0:21:56 > 0:21:58they called into question their impartiality,
0:21:58 > 0:22:02because the only reason why you'd want to call it in at that point
0:22:02 > 0:22:05was to stop a refusal taking effect. They shouldn't have done it.
0:22:06 > 0:22:08With the benefit of hindsight,
0:22:08 > 0:22:10I suspect they feel they shouldn't have done it.
0:22:10 > 0:22:12I wouldn't have called it in.
0:22:13 > 0:22:15I think it should have been a local matter.
0:22:17 > 0:22:20- Why wasn't it?- It would have been a planning minister's decision
0:22:20 > 0:22:22rather than the First Minister's decision -
0:22:22 > 0:22:24but my strong view, from a government point of view,
0:22:24 > 0:22:27would have been that without...
0:22:27 > 0:22:30..the local consent, he should find somewhere else.
0:22:30 > 0:22:35Well, I think you have to question my predecessor more closely.
0:22:35 > 0:22:39Firstly, the overwhelming majority of councillors, I think 90% of them,
0:22:39 > 0:22:40were in favour of the development.
0:22:40 > 0:22:42They'd got themselves,
0:22:42 > 0:22:45as the evidence to the Parliamentary committee makes it clear,
0:22:45 > 0:22:47from the chief executive, into a bind.
0:22:47 > 0:22:49If we had turned down the investment,
0:22:49 > 0:22:52we'd have been left - thinking more of the constituency here -
0:22:52 > 0:22:56sending a message to international investors that after courting you,
0:22:56 > 0:23:00after making him, as Mr McConnell did, a global Scot,
0:23:00 > 0:23:02then the investment wasn't good enough,
0:23:02 > 0:23:05and Scotland was the country that turned it down.
0:23:05 > 0:23:09So, I think if he kind of re-examines the record, he might...
0:23:09 > 0:23:11..amend his view.
0:23:11 > 0:23:14I think Alex Salmond is a tremendous representative
0:23:14 > 0:23:17for the people of Scotland. I think he's done a fantastic job.
0:23:18 > 0:23:22But the relationship between Alex Salmond and Donald Trump
0:23:22 > 0:23:23soon soured.
0:23:24 > 0:23:26You're going to have riots all over Scotland,
0:23:26 > 0:23:29because Alex Salmond is going to destroy
0:23:29 > 0:23:31the natural beauty of Scotland.
0:23:32 > 0:23:36Mr Trump strongly objected to an offshore wind farm
0:23:36 > 0:23:38being built near his proposed resort.
0:23:40 > 0:23:44Well, when somebody comes in and invests tens of millions of pounds
0:23:44 > 0:23:49in a certain area, and then all of a sudden that investment is...
0:23:49 > 0:23:53..hurt, I think other people will watch what's happened to me
0:23:53 > 0:23:55in Scotland and they won't be investing in Scotland.
0:23:55 > 0:23:58When his case was tested in Parliament,
0:23:58 > 0:24:00he came away with a Trump classic.
0:24:00 > 0:24:02Where is the clinical evidence,
0:24:02 > 0:24:05not an opinion, an empirical assessment,
0:24:05 > 0:24:07where is your clinical evidence?
0:24:07 > 0:24:10Who's produced it? Will you share it with the committee?
0:24:11 > 0:24:13First of all, I am the evidence.
0:24:13 > 0:24:15I think I'm more of an expert...
0:24:15 > 0:24:17You know what, I think I'm a lot more of an expert
0:24:17 > 0:24:19than the people that you'd like me to hire
0:24:19 > 0:24:21who are doing it to make a pay cheque -
0:24:21 > 0:24:23but I am an expert in tourism.
0:24:23 > 0:24:27I am considered a world-class expert in tourism.
0:24:27 > 0:24:30So when you say where is the expert and where is the evidence,
0:24:30 > 0:24:31I'm the evidence.
0:24:33 > 0:24:35Back home in America,
0:24:35 > 0:24:39the belligerent billionaire tried hard to block the wind farm.
0:24:39 > 0:24:43He fought the Scottish Government, which gave the turbines consent,
0:24:43 > 0:24:45through the courts and through the media.
0:24:47 > 0:24:49Four years ago, I was invited
0:24:49 > 0:24:52inside Donald Trump's New York headquarters
0:24:52 > 0:24:54to hear his arguments face-to-face,
0:24:54 > 0:24:56and I learned something about him that day.
0:24:58 > 0:25:01So, we came out of the lift and we were met by Trump's lawyer,
0:25:01 > 0:25:03and then the man himself came in -
0:25:03 > 0:25:07and no sooner had he said "Hi" than he turned to the lawyer
0:25:07 > 0:25:10to instruct him on the day's legal business.
0:25:10 > 0:25:13Now, I've no idea who the Trump Organisation were up against
0:25:13 > 0:25:15at that time or what the dispute was about,
0:25:15 > 0:25:20but Trump's instructions were really clear - "Shame him," he said.
0:25:20 > 0:25:23"Shame him into withdrawing."
0:25:23 > 0:25:25I thought that gave a real insight into his character.
0:25:25 > 0:25:30He wouldn't compromise, he was absolutely determined to win,
0:25:30 > 0:25:31and he didn't care who knew it.
0:25:35 > 0:25:38VOICEOVER: In our conversation, I was on the receiving end
0:25:38 > 0:25:40of the Trump hard sell.
0:25:41 > 0:25:43I spent a tremendous amount of money
0:25:43 > 0:25:47building what is now probably the greatest golf course ever built,
0:25:47 > 0:25:48and a lot of people are saying that.
0:25:48 > 0:25:51We are getting tremendous reviews, it's phenomenal for Scotland.
0:25:51 > 0:25:54Tourists are coming from all over the world,
0:25:54 > 0:25:56they're coming, and Aberdeen is booming.
0:25:56 > 0:25:59We have really done a great thing for Aberdeen.
0:25:59 > 0:26:00If you look at the hotels,
0:26:00 > 0:26:03if you look at the restaurants, they're full because of my course.
0:26:03 > 0:26:06I think we will have the Ryder Cup, I think we'll have the Open,
0:26:06 > 0:26:09I think we'll have many, many great tournaments over the years.
0:26:09 > 0:26:11I don't know if I'll be around to see them all,
0:26:11 > 0:26:13but you'll have many, many great tournaments.
0:26:13 > 0:26:15I have built the greatest golf course ever built.
0:26:15 > 0:26:17I don't even have a mortgage.
0:26:17 > 0:26:20I don't even have financing on it, I did it out of my back pocket.
0:26:20 > 0:26:21I don't need financing.
0:26:21 > 0:26:22The work to build
0:26:22 > 0:26:26what Donald Trump said would be the greatest golf course on Earth
0:26:26 > 0:26:30brought him into conflict with residents on the Menie estate
0:26:30 > 0:26:32who refused to sell their homes to him.
0:26:32 > 0:26:36Some accused the Trump Organization of dirty tricks.
0:26:36 > 0:26:40My wife just gave me a phone call, I was in an office one day,
0:26:40 > 0:26:42saying they've got a digger out of the front planting trees,
0:26:42 > 0:26:44and it was this type of tree here.
0:26:44 > 0:26:46Sitka spruce.
0:26:46 > 0:26:49This is the second batch. The first ones died after a couple of years,
0:26:49 > 0:26:51they dug them out and put these ones in,
0:26:51 > 0:26:53and they backed them up with sycamore,
0:26:53 > 0:26:56which, as you can see, are also suffering in the wind.
0:26:56 > 0:26:59The salt spray just kills these things off here.
0:26:59 > 0:27:01You think eventually they will die?
0:27:01 > 0:27:03Oh, yeah. They will.
0:27:03 > 0:27:05Well, as you can see, a number of them already have -
0:27:05 > 0:27:07and, as I say, these are the second batch.
0:27:07 > 0:27:09The first ones already did die.
0:27:09 > 0:27:12- Do they bother you at all? - They did when they first went in
0:27:12 > 0:27:14because they formed a complete wall.
0:27:14 > 0:27:17They came in at this height, they were fully grown,
0:27:17 > 0:27:21transplanted from elsewhere on the estate, and it was a complete hedge.
0:27:21 > 0:27:23It was a high hedge built on our boundary.
0:27:23 > 0:27:25Is there anything you can do about it?
0:27:25 > 0:27:27Well, there is high hedge legislation in Scotland
0:27:27 > 0:27:29that we could use that might help.
0:27:29 > 0:27:30We haven't pursued it
0:27:30 > 0:27:33because we didn't want to be the first in the region to use it -
0:27:33 > 0:27:36and, now, the first lot died, these are going the same way,
0:27:36 > 0:27:38it's probably not worth the effort.
0:27:44 > 0:27:47David Milne also complained about an earth mound
0:27:47 > 0:27:49that appeared behind his house,
0:27:49 > 0:27:53and he refused to pay towards the cost of a fence
0:27:53 > 0:27:56the Trumps put up around his property.
0:27:56 > 0:27:57There was a lot of bad feeling.
0:27:59 > 0:28:02How do you get on with your neighbours on the Menie Estate?
0:28:02 > 0:28:05You know, it's a bit of a myth
0:28:05 > 0:28:07that we don't get on with our neighbours.
0:28:07 > 0:28:10We have a great relationship with the vast majority of our neighbours.
0:28:10 > 0:28:14Let me take the example of one of your neighbours, David Milne.
0:28:14 > 0:28:18Why did you build an earth mound next to his house?
0:28:18 > 0:28:19You know, David...
0:28:20 > 0:28:26David has made a lot of statements about the property
0:28:26 > 0:28:30and us as a business, and...
0:28:30 > 0:28:33..much of it, if not all of it, is fabricated.
0:28:33 > 0:28:35- There was an earth mound, though. - Yes, there was earth there.
0:28:35 > 0:28:40- Why did you build that? - We own the land on the escarpment,
0:28:40 > 0:28:43and one of the reasons why we wanted to buy his property
0:28:43 > 0:28:45and another neighbouring property
0:28:45 > 0:28:49was because we were entering a period of construction.
0:28:49 > 0:28:54Now, I don't need to tell you that a 500-acre golf course,
0:28:54 > 0:28:55road infrastructure,
0:28:55 > 0:29:01laying cables and services is going to be a messy and noisy affair.
0:29:01 > 0:29:03Why did you put a fence around his house
0:29:03 > 0:29:06and then ask him to pay for half of it?
0:29:06 > 0:29:09The fact of the matter is that he had built an extension on his house
0:29:09 > 0:29:12many years ago, and it's technically on our land.
0:29:12 > 0:29:15Why did you plant trees in front of his house?
0:29:15 > 0:29:17Because we have the right to plant trees -
0:29:17 > 0:29:19and, you know, it's our land.
0:29:19 > 0:29:21Why wouldn't we plant trees?
0:29:21 > 0:29:23Is that bullying behaviour?
0:29:23 > 0:29:24I don't believe so.
0:29:26 > 0:29:30I would argue that some of the things that they have done
0:29:30 > 0:29:34have been extremely close to harassment and threatening.
0:29:35 > 0:29:36Such as?
0:29:39 > 0:29:42You know, we're going over old turf here,
0:29:42 > 0:29:45which I don't think is particularly edifying.
0:29:45 > 0:29:49The fact of the matter is we've built a leisure facility.
0:29:49 > 0:29:52We want to have a relationship with all of our neighbours.
0:29:52 > 0:29:56We have a great relationship with the vast majority of our neighbours,
0:29:56 > 0:29:59and we would have a great relationship with David and his wife
0:29:59 > 0:30:01if he wanted to.
0:30:01 > 0:30:04- You know...- Is that still possible, do you think?
0:30:04 > 0:30:06It's entirely up to them. My door is always open.
0:30:10 > 0:30:13Those who refused to sell to Trump
0:30:13 > 0:30:15spent years resisting the development.
0:30:15 > 0:30:18A public campaign successfully fought off
0:30:18 > 0:30:21a threat of compulsory purchase.
0:30:21 > 0:30:26As a local councillor, Jim Gifford voted for the development.
0:30:26 > 0:30:29Ten years on, he leads the council.
0:30:29 > 0:30:32I think, with hindsight, they could have done a lot of stuff better,
0:30:32 > 0:30:35right from the start. We have any number of examples
0:30:35 > 0:30:37of controversial developments that have come through
0:30:37 > 0:30:39in Aberdeenshire over the years,
0:30:39 > 0:30:41where the developers have gone out of their way
0:30:41 > 0:30:43to involve the local community,
0:30:43 > 0:30:46tell them what they were doing, get them on board,
0:30:46 > 0:30:49and those things tend to sail through without too much difficulty.
0:30:49 > 0:30:53I think the Trump Organization could have learnt a lot
0:30:53 > 0:30:57from other developers in terms of how to bring development forward.
0:30:57 > 0:30:58Three...two...
0:30:58 > 0:31:00..one.
0:31:02 > 0:31:07Trump International Golf Links Scotland opened five years ago,
0:31:07 > 0:31:09and it's still contentious -
0:31:09 > 0:31:13not just with some neighbours and environmental campaigners
0:31:13 > 0:31:15but also with some of its supporters
0:31:15 > 0:31:19because of the mismatch between what was promised
0:31:19 > 0:31:21and what has actually been built.
0:31:21 > 0:31:26Talk of two golf courses, a 450-bedroom hotel,
0:31:26 > 0:31:30and hundreds of homes seems a bit like fake news...
0:31:32 > 0:31:37..because, so far, there's one golf course, a small clubhouse,
0:31:37 > 0:31:42and this 16-bedroom hotel in what was the old estate home.
0:31:42 > 0:31:46A £1 billion development it is not.
0:31:46 > 0:31:49How much money have you spent here, and what have you actually built?
0:31:49 > 0:31:52So, to date, we've spent 100 million,
0:31:52 > 0:31:54and it's 100 million pure investment,
0:31:54 > 0:31:58and, as I've said, it was Trump's private wealth.
0:31:58 > 0:32:00There's no mortgages, there's no loans,
0:32:00 > 0:32:02there's no liens on this property.
0:32:02 > 0:32:05Now, this is a multiphase development.
0:32:05 > 0:32:07We said that at the outset.
0:32:07 > 0:32:09This wasn't going to get built overnight.
0:32:09 > 0:32:12It's a long-term investment opportunity for us
0:32:12 > 0:32:16and that's how Mr Trump has always approached it.
0:32:16 > 0:32:19So, for phase one, that includes the anchor,
0:32:19 > 0:32:20the impetus for the whole site,
0:32:20 > 0:32:23which is the championship golf course,
0:32:23 > 0:32:25which is award-winning -
0:32:25 > 0:32:29and defying even our harshest of critics, it really is a masterpiece.
0:32:29 > 0:32:33How many people are employed by Trump International?
0:32:33 > 0:32:38So, including our caddies, we have 150 people engaged here
0:32:38 > 0:32:39at the estate.
0:32:39 > 0:32:40Full-time?
0:32:40 > 0:32:41A mix of full and part-time.
0:32:41 > 0:32:43We are a seasonal property, remember.
0:32:43 > 0:32:46We open in April through to the end of October,
0:32:46 > 0:32:47and then we have our winter offering -
0:32:47 > 0:32:51and, obviously, we have a variety of service providers
0:32:51 > 0:32:55that are reliant on us, and a whole supply chain.
0:32:55 > 0:32:58So, it's not the billion pounds worth of investment
0:32:58 > 0:33:01and the potential for 6,000 jobs that was promised?
0:33:04 > 0:33:05But we haven't finished.
0:33:05 > 0:33:10You know, the project is a multiphase project -
0:33:10 > 0:33:13and, you know, we're not stupid.
0:33:13 > 0:33:15The golf course, impressive as it is,
0:33:15 > 0:33:19has permanently changed the dune environment at Menie.
0:33:19 > 0:33:23So much so, the government agency Scottish National Heritage
0:33:23 > 0:33:27has told us it now has the special scientific status of this site
0:33:27 > 0:33:29under review.
0:33:29 > 0:33:32I'll be absolutely surprised if it's renotified.
0:33:32 > 0:33:33It really should be denotified,
0:33:33 > 0:33:37because there's no dynamism involved in that site now -
0:33:37 > 0:33:41and that was original justification for its notification.
0:33:41 > 0:33:44So, from a scientific point of view, this site's been ruined?
0:33:44 > 0:33:50It's been ruined from a virgin, undeveloped wilderness site
0:33:50 > 0:33:52into something that's relatively manicured.
0:33:54 > 0:33:57Was it worth tearing up this Site of Special Scientific Interest
0:33:57 > 0:34:01- for what has been delivered?- For what is only there just now, no,
0:34:01 > 0:34:04because the economic benefit hasn't come through.
0:34:05 > 0:34:08In the big picture that was put in front of us ten years ago,
0:34:08 > 0:34:09it was worth doing.
0:34:09 > 0:34:11What duty does the Trump Organization have
0:34:11 > 0:34:13to deliver those benefits?
0:34:13 > 0:34:16I think they have an obligation to bring forward what they promised.
0:34:16 > 0:34:17That's the bottom line of it.
0:34:17 > 0:34:19The difficulty we have is we can't force them to do that.
0:34:22 > 0:34:26What's already there is not generating a profit.
0:34:26 > 0:34:29The latest accounts show Trump's Scottish businesses
0:34:29 > 0:34:32lost £19 million to the end of 2016,
0:34:32 > 0:34:36with revenues down year-on-year in Aberdeenshire.
0:34:37 > 0:34:39This place hasn't made any money yet, has it?
0:34:39 > 0:34:42No. It's... And we didn't expect it to.
0:34:42 > 0:34:44It's still in the early stages of its life,
0:34:44 > 0:34:47and year-on-year we keep spending money, you know,
0:34:47 > 0:34:48adding new services,
0:34:48 > 0:34:50adding new facilities...
0:34:50 > 0:34:54Investing in our resources, investing in our people -
0:34:54 > 0:34:57and that is set to continue for some time.
0:34:57 > 0:34:59But does that not matter?
0:34:59 > 0:35:01When you're a billionaire, you know...
0:35:01 > 0:35:03There are some projects...
0:35:04 > 0:35:09..that a quick return on is the motivating factor
0:35:09 > 0:35:11but this was not...
0:35:11 > 0:35:13..that kind of project.
0:35:13 > 0:35:16Trump wasn't coming to Balmedie in Aberdeenshire in Scotland
0:35:16 > 0:35:19to make a fast buck. Come on!
0:35:19 > 0:35:21Some people have said it's a vanity project.
0:35:21 > 0:35:25Who's some people? What does that even mean?
0:35:25 > 0:35:27Is it a vanity project?
0:35:28 > 0:35:29I think it's a glorious project,
0:35:29 > 0:35:31it's one that he's immensely proud of,
0:35:31 > 0:35:35and why wouldn't he be? He's set the bar incredibly high.
0:35:37 > 0:35:40There may be more construction on the way.
0:35:40 > 0:35:43A planning application for a second golf course is in
0:35:43 > 0:35:46and has already prompted environmental objections.
0:35:46 > 0:35:49Undeterred, Sarah Malone and her architect
0:35:49 > 0:35:53have plans for a major new phase of development on the Menie Estate.
0:35:53 > 0:35:56Right, so, here's the plan.
0:35:56 > 0:35:59Where are we on this at the moment in MacLeod House?
0:35:59 > 0:36:03We're overlooking the ponds that you can see out of the gardens -
0:36:03 > 0:36:05and then, beyond that, nestled within the trees,
0:36:05 > 0:36:07you have the housing starting,
0:36:07 > 0:36:10and then beyond that, that is called Chapter One.
0:36:11 > 0:36:15They are looking to build a village with 550 homes,
0:36:15 > 0:36:19a mixture of residential and holiday accommodation -
0:36:19 > 0:36:22but there is something they were supposed to build first
0:36:22 > 0:36:24that's missing.
0:36:24 > 0:36:28The idea of the grand hotel, is that gone now?
0:36:28 > 0:36:30Well, I think for now...
0:36:31 > 0:36:33It doesn't make a great deal of sense.
0:36:33 > 0:36:34I think you just need to look at...
0:36:34 > 0:36:36- The world's changed. - The world's changed,
0:36:36 > 0:36:38the hotel industry in the north-east of Scotland
0:36:38 > 0:36:40has changed dramatically.
0:36:40 > 0:36:42Not only has the big hotel gone,
0:36:42 > 0:36:47but the Trump Organization wants to build residential and holiday homes
0:36:47 > 0:36:50at the same time, rather than in the phases specified
0:36:50 > 0:36:53in the original planning consent.
0:36:53 > 0:36:56Well, I think the Trump Organization,
0:36:56 > 0:36:58whoever's putting forward the proposals,
0:36:58 > 0:37:00will have a huge credibility problem
0:37:00 > 0:37:05in persuading this generation of planners and councillors
0:37:05 > 0:37:09in Aberdeenshire to believe the commitments they are now making,
0:37:09 > 0:37:12given the track record of the last ten years -
0:37:12 > 0:37:15and they face the most enormous credibility problem -
0:37:15 > 0:37:17not one, incidentally, they would have faced
0:37:17 > 0:37:19if they'd just put their hands up
0:37:19 > 0:37:21and said, "Look, the world economic environment
0:37:21 > 0:37:24"has fundamentally changed from when we made these promises
0:37:24 > 0:37:27"to the position it was maybe two or three, four years ago."
0:37:27 > 0:37:29That, I think, would have been understood.
0:37:29 > 0:37:31People could have understood that.
0:37:44 > 0:37:50In America, not everyone understands how the President, a world leader,
0:37:50 > 0:37:52can continue to own a global business.
0:37:52 > 0:37:55The White House insists Donald Trump
0:37:55 > 0:37:57no longer runs the company he created
0:37:57 > 0:38:01and is not involved in deciding what to build in Aberdeenshire.
0:38:05 > 0:38:08Not only are these plans controversial in Scotland,
0:38:08 > 0:38:11they're controversial here in Washington, too,
0:38:11 > 0:38:13because Donald Trump's critics -
0:38:13 > 0:38:16lawyers, journalists and political opponents -
0:38:16 > 0:38:18say that it's a conflict of interest
0:38:18 > 0:38:20for the President of the United States
0:38:20 > 0:38:23to have business interests all over the world.
0:38:26 > 0:38:28Jeremy Venook is a journalist
0:38:28 > 0:38:32who's been researching Donald Trump's overseas business interests
0:38:32 > 0:38:36for the past year, including his Aberdeenshire golf resort.
0:38:36 > 0:38:38Before he entered office,
0:38:38 > 0:38:41the Trump Organization and Trump himself laid out a plan
0:38:41 > 0:38:43by which they said they would
0:38:43 > 0:38:45avoid creating any more conflicts of interest
0:38:45 > 0:38:48in which they promised that the Trump Organization
0:38:48 > 0:38:50would not be pursuing any new deals
0:38:50 > 0:38:53and would cancel all of its pending deals in other countries.
0:38:53 > 0:38:57Now, the expansion at Aberdeen seems to go against that pledge
0:38:57 > 0:38:59and creates increased possibilities
0:38:59 > 0:39:02that President Trump and his organisation
0:39:02 > 0:39:05could come into conflict with government entities in Scotland
0:39:05 > 0:39:08and in other countries where the Trump Organization
0:39:08 > 0:39:09is pursuing expansion plans.
0:39:10 > 0:39:12And some in Washington
0:39:12 > 0:39:16are also looking into Trump's other Scottish investment.
0:39:16 > 0:39:19Trump's golf course at Turnberry has also featured
0:39:19 > 0:39:21in worries about his conflict of interest
0:39:21 > 0:39:25because of a £110,000 tax break that he received
0:39:25 > 0:39:27from the South Ayrshire Council.
0:39:27 > 0:39:29That demonstrates one of the other issues
0:39:29 > 0:39:31with President Trump's decision
0:39:31 > 0:39:33to hold on to his businesses while he is President,
0:39:33 > 0:39:36which is that they offer all sorts of opportunities
0:39:36 > 0:39:39for people who may want to curry favour with the President
0:39:39 > 0:39:41by using his finances to get to him.
0:39:44 > 0:39:49This being America, a legal challenge is already underway.
0:39:49 > 0:39:51The ethical standards campaign CREW
0:39:51 > 0:39:54argues that the President's international investments
0:39:54 > 0:39:56are unconstitutional.
0:39:56 > 0:39:58There are actually two clauses
0:39:58 > 0:40:02of the United States Constitution called the emoluments clauses.
0:40:02 > 0:40:05One of them, the foreign emoluments clause,
0:40:05 > 0:40:10says essentially that the President or any other government official
0:40:10 > 0:40:14cannot be getting payments or things of value
0:40:14 > 0:40:16from foreign governments.
0:40:16 > 0:40:20President Trump would say he's handed control of the business
0:40:20 > 0:40:21over to his sons.
0:40:21 > 0:40:23Why don't you accept that?
0:40:23 > 0:40:26Who is managing the business on a day-to-day basis
0:40:26 > 0:40:27isn't really what matters.
0:40:27 > 0:40:30What matters is who benefits from the business,
0:40:30 > 0:40:31who owns the business -
0:40:31 > 0:40:33and that continues to be Donald Trump.
0:40:33 > 0:40:38He didn't sell the companies, he didn't give the companies away.
0:40:38 > 0:40:40He continues to profit from them.
0:40:40 > 0:40:44The President has taken steps to avoid conflicts of interest.
0:40:44 > 0:40:48These papers are just some of the many documents that I've signed
0:40:48 > 0:40:52turning over complete and total control to my sons.
0:40:52 > 0:40:53I hope at the end of eight years
0:40:53 > 0:40:56I'll come back and I'll say "Oh, you did a good job."
0:40:56 > 0:40:59Otherwise, if they do a bad job, I'll say, "You're fired!"
0:40:59 > 0:41:01Goodbye, everybody.
0:41:01 > 0:41:03Supporters of the President
0:41:03 > 0:41:07insist attacks on these arrangements are not justified.
0:41:07 > 0:41:11This is a man who has handed over the control of all his businesses
0:41:11 > 0:41:13very publicly in a press conference
0:41:13 > 0:41:14before he came into the White House.
0:41:14 > 0:41:18So, he's not involved in the running of his businesses.
0:41:18 > 0:41:23They may bear his name, but you can't take his name off his legacy.
0:41:23 > 0:41:25He's built it for 50 years.
0:41:25 > 0:41:28Even if they change the name of his hotels or his golf courses,
0:41:28 > 0:41:29everybody knows who built them.
0:41:32 > 0:41:33The takeover of Turnberry
0:41:33 > 0:41:38strengthened the Trump family's ties with Scotland.
0:41:38 > 0:41:40In all the jobs we've done around the world,
0:41:40 > 0:41:43never have we met such unbelievable partners
0:41:43 > 0:41:47who have welcomed us with open arms. Everything that we wanted to do,
0:41:47 > 0:41:52every capital investment we wanted to make, they were 100% behind us.
0:41:52 > 0:41:54As the Trumps redeveloped Turnberry,
0:41:54 > 0:41:57they worked closely with South Ayrshire Council
0:41:57 > 0:41:59and other local partners.
0:41:59 > 0:42:02They wanted not to improve just infrastructure
0:42:02 > 0:42:04and quality of the buildings
0:42:04 > 0:42:08but also to engage very closely with the local community.
0:42:08 > 0:42:11Therefore, a lot of local contractors were used
0:42:11 > 0:42:12as part of that refurbishment.
0:42:12 > 0:42:15What economic impact has it had locally?
0:42:16 > 0:42:19I think really the employment has the biggest impact.
0:42:19 > 0:42:21It's down in a fairly rural area.
0:42:21 > 0:42:25There are not many big employers in Girvan, Maybole, etc -
0:42:25 > 0:42:30and to have the opportunity to employ, I think, currently,
0:42:30 > 0:42:35they've got 454 staff, 85% of which are Scottish and local,
0:42:35 > 0:42:37which is really key, I think,
0:42:37 > 0:42:39for young people in that particular area.
0:42:42 > 0:42:44When he opened the newly-refurbished resort,
0:42:44 > 0:42:48the then presidential candidate once again stressed the importance
0:42:48 > 0:42:49of his Scottish roots.
0:42:51 > 0:42:54My mother was born in Scotland, in Stornoway.
0:42:54 > 0:42:57She would come to Turnberry with her friends -
0:42:57 > 0:42:59and they'd have dinner at Turnberry.
0:42:59 > 0:43:02She didn't play golf but they'd have dinner at Turnberry.
0:43:02 > 0:43:07So, having taken this hotel and done the job we've done with it
0:43:07 > 0:43:08is just an honour -
0:43:08 > 0:43:12and to think that we'd be here owning Turnberry one day
0:43:12 > 0:43:14would be incredible.
0:43:14 > 0:43:17It was the day after the Brexit vote
0:43:17 > 0:43:19and he also welcomed the UK's decision
0:43:19 > 0:43:21to leave the European Union.
0:43:21 > 0:43:23People want to see borders.
0:43:23 > 0:43:27They don't necessarily want people pouring into their country
0:43:27 > 0:43:29that they don't know who they are and where they come from,
0:43:29 > 0:43:32they have no idea. And I think, you know,
0:43:32 > 0:43:34not only did it win, but it won by a much bigger margin
0:43:34 > 0:43:36than people thought it would happen.
0:43:43 > 0:43:48With Donald Trump, the personal, political and commercial
0:43:48 > 0:43:50are intertwined.
0:43:50 > 0:43:55Welcome to the Donald Trump Ballroom, our masterpiece.
0:43:55 > 0:43:58It's not yet clear what his election will mean
0:43:58 > 0:44:01for Scotland and the wider UK.
0:44:01 > 0:44:05He's long been the subject of much criticism here.
0:44:05 > 0:44:07What would you do if Donald Trump gets into power?
0:44:07 > 0:44:08Will you deal with him or dinghy him?
0:44:08 > 0:44:11Deal with him or dinghy him? Deal with him or dinghy him?
0:44:11 > 0:44:13I think America will dinghy him before I do.
0:44:13 > 0:44:16- I'd like to dinghy him before he got into power.- Would you?
0:44:16 > 0:44:18Yeah. Actually, I don't believe he will ever be
0:44:18 > 0:44:19President of the United States.
0:44:19 > 0:44:21I have too much faith in the wisdom of crowds.
0:44:21 > 0:44:24I don't think the Americans will ever elect him President.
0:44:24 > 0:44:26But would you have to deal with him, though?
0:44:26 > 0:44:28What do you think of his hair? Do you like his hair?
0:44:28 > 0:44:30I think it reminds me of Dougie Donnelly.
0:44:31 > 0:44:35The First Minister went further in a TV debate.
0:44:36 > 0:44:39Donald Trump calls you.
0:44:39 > 0:44:41What's your opening gambit?
0:44:41 > 0:44:43I actually do think the good people of America
0:44:43 > 0:44:44will send Donald Trump packing
0:44:44 > 0:44:47and we should all rejoice when that happens.
0:44:48 > 0:44:50And what would you say? What would your message be?
0:44:50 > 0:44:53"I'm on the other line, sorry."
0:44:53 > 0:44:57In fact, Nicola Sturgeon did take the new President's call
0:44:57 > 0:44:59and congratulated him.
0:44:59 > 0:45:03Earlier this year, she visited the USA during Scotland Week...
0:45:03 > 0:45:05..but there was no meeting with President Trump.
0:45:07 > 0:45:09Obviously, you've been a critic
0:45:09 > 0:45:12of the current President of the United States,
0:45:12 > 0:45:16with accusations levelled at him of misogyny and of racism,
0:45:16 > 0:45:19you've stripped him of his role as an ambassador for Scottish business.
0:45:19 > 0:45:21Have you had to bite your tongue this week?
0:45:21 > 0:45:23No, I haven't had to bite my tongue.
0:45:23 > 0:45:24I respect the fact that,
0:45:24 > 0:45:27notwithstanding political disagreements I will have
0:45:27 > 0:45:28with President Trump,
0:45:28 > 0:45:31that he is the elected President of the United States.
0:45:31 > 0:45:32I also am absolutely determined
0:45:32 > 0:45:35that whoever is the President of the United States,
0:45:35 > 0:45:37whoever is First Minister of Scotland
0:45:37 > 0:45:40from time to time that we concentrate on building
0:45:40 > 0:45:42and strengthening and deepening the many links
0:45:42 > 0:45:44between Scotland and the United States,
0:45:44 > 0:45:47and that is what the visit has been entirely focused on.
0:45:48 > 0:45:50But what do the President's supporters make
0:45:50 > 0:45:53of the way Scotland's politicians behaved?
0:45:54 > 0:45:55It's not what you do.
0:45:55 > 0:45:59It's the same way that - why did President Obama
0:45:59 > 0:46:04try to force the hand of the British people voting
0:46:04 > 0:46:05with regards to exiting the EU?
0:46:05 > 0:46:08To threaten that they would be at the end of the queue
0:46:08 > 0:46:11when it came to trade relations?
0:46:11 > 0:46:12Americans shouldn't do that,
0:46:12 > 0:46:15other politicians shouldn't do that with us.
0:46:15 > 0:46:17Are there consequences for taking a stand
0:46:17 > 0:46:21against the highest political office on the planet?
0:46:21 > 0:46:24You'd have to ask the President, but he has a very, very long memory.
0:46:26 > 0:46:28- Meaning?- He doesn't forget stuff.
0:46:29 > 0:46:31Another Trump supporter, Jeffrey Lord,
0:46:31 > 0:46:33worked in the Reagan White House.
0:46:33 > 0:46:36When you work in the White House, the President's photographer,
0:46:36 > 0:46:38every President's photographer,
0:46:38 > 0:46:41their job is to record history all day long -
0:46:41 > 0:46:43and then if you're on the White House staff
0:46:43 > 0:46:45and you see one that you like,
0:46:45 > 0:46:47you lift it off,
0:46:47 > 0:46:48and you sign your name on the back.
0:46:48 > 0:46:50There we are, Jeff Lord, political affairs.
0:46:50 > 0:46:54Exactly. It's up to the President's photographer who gets it,
0:46:54 > 0:46:57and I was fortunate enough to get this one.
0:46:57 > 0:47:02Now a writer and commentator, he specialises in political relations.
0:47:02 > 0:47:06Do you think our politicians in Scotland made a mistake
0:47:06 > 0:47:08criticising Donald Trump?
0:47:08 > 0:47:11I always think that kind of thing in general is a mistake.
0:47:11 > 0:47:13That said, I understand the politics of it,
0:47:13 > 0:47:17that they are playing to their own version of their base
0:47:17 > 0:47:22and attacking Donald Trump, in this case, is popular in some circles.
0:47:22 > 0:47:26So they do it - but I think it's not a helpful thing.
0:47:26 > 0:47:28Will that backfire in some way?
0:47:28 > 0:47:30It could. It could.
0:47:32 > 0:47:34Again, America being...
0:47:34 > 0:47:39American history being what it is and having separated itself
0:47:39 > 0:47:42from the UK in the American Revolution,
0:47:42 > 0:47:44there's always that strain in America,
0:47:44 > 0:47:47that's just sort of under the surface, that we're Americans,
0:47:47 > 0:47:53we're not the old world, and we're going to do things our own way.
0:47:58 > 0:48:00In the land of the free,
0:48:00 > 0:48:05there's a great tradition of poking fun at the rich and powerful.
0:48:05 > 0:48:08Capitol Steps have been performing political satire in Washington DC
0:48:08 > 0:48:10for decades.
0:48:12 > 0:48:17# He's got something that's right when we turn out the lights
0:48:17 > 0:48:20# That's when Donald shows me his charms
0:48:21 > 0:48:25# And then my heart sings at those small things...
0:48:26 > 0:48:30# At the end of his arms
0:48:30 > 0:48:34# I want a man with a small hand
0:48:34 > 0:48:39# Don't want somebody else to be my spouse
0:48:39 > 0:48:42# Don't like those guys who's always showing some hands
0:48:42 > 0:48:46# Like those big hands you see on Mickey Mouse... #
0:48:46 > 0:48:50The cast includes some who've worked on Capitol Hill
0:48:50 > 0:48:52in the business of government.
0:48:52 > 0:48:56# A man who wasn't dealt a full hand. #
0:49:01 > 0:49:05Now, as Donald Trump's not agreed to be interviewed for this film,
0:49:05 > 0:49:08in the spirit of the show, I decided to improvise.
0:49:09 > 0:49:13We're making a film about President Trump.
0:49:13 > 0:49:17What about the state visit, are you going to make that to the UK?
0:49:17 > 0:49:19Make it to the UK?
0:49:20 > 0:49:22I don't know. You know, talk to my people, OK?
0:49:22 > 0:49:24I don't know, it's just hard to say.
0:49:24 > 0:49:27I mean, I'm going to make it great. If I make it there,
0:49:27 > 0:49:29it'll be great, it'll be fantastic, it'll be the best visit ever.
0:49:29 > 0:49:31Ever. Biggest visit you could imagine.
0:49:31 > 0:49:35What if there are protests, though? Some people don't like you.
0:49:35 > 0:49:36That's impossible, that's fake news.
0:49:36 > 0:49:38No-one ever said that. Everyone loves me.
0:49:38 > 0:49:39They love me, you understand?
0:49:39 > 0:49:42Look at the crowd here. There's a million people here right now.
0:49:42 > 0:49:43There's nobody here.
0:49:43 > 0:49:46- Please be seated. - There's absolutely nobody here.
0:49:46 > 0:49:49Be seated, quiet down, you're fake news, get out of here.
0:49:49 > 0:49:51Get him out of here.
0:49:51 > 0:49:55The real Donald Trump is a hugely controversial President.
0:49:55 > 0:49:59There are regularly protests like this outside his family businesses.
0:50:01 > 0:50:04Donald Trump may have divided opinion in Scotland
0:50:04 > 0:50:08for and against his golf development in Aberdeenshire,
0:50:08 > 0:50:10but that's nothing compared to this,
0:50:10 > 0:50:13the way in which his policies as President
0:50:13 > 0:50:16have divided opinion in the United States.
0:50:16 > 0:50:19Yes, he promised to build a wall with Mexico
0:50:19 > 0:50:21and to restrict immigration
0:50:21 > 0:50:24from a range of mainly Muslim countries.
0:50:24 > 0:50:25That helped to get him elected -
0:50:25 > 0:50:29but there are no shortage of people prepared to stand up
0:50:29 > 0:50:31and fight him on those policies.
0:50:35 > 0:50:40President Trump is likely to receive a similar reception in the UK.
0:50:40 > 0:50:43That may be why there is not yet a date for the state visit
0:50:43 > 0:50:48he was offered and accepted within days of taking office.
0:50:48 > 0:50:51The problem for UK and Scottish politicians to resolve
0:50:51 > 0:50:55is how best to handle such an unpredictable President.
0:50:57 > 0:51:00Well, I think in these international relationships...
0:51:01 > 0:51:05..it is perfectly possible to take a very strong stance
0:51:05 > 0:51:09and have a strong opinion on what somebody is saying or doing
0:51:09 > 0:51:13and still be able to have a dialogue with them.
0:51:13 > 0:51:16I met President Putin twice when I was First Minister.
0:51:17 > 0:51:20I didn't... No, we didn't agree on most of the topics
0:51:20 > 0:51:21that we discussed,
0:51:21 > 0:51:24but we had a great, very good relationship, you know?
0:51:25 > 0:51:28And good quality discussion.
0:51:28 > 0:51:30You should try and tell the truth to power.
0:51:30 > 0:51:35I mean, I obviously respect the fact that Nicola Sturgeon, for example,
0:51:35 > 0:51:38is in office and you cannot, for example - some people suggested,
0:51:38 > 0:51:41say you will refuse to be the President of the United States.
0:51:41 > 0:51:43You can't do that. You've got to respect office,
0:51:43 > 0:51:45regardless of what you think of individuals.
0:51:51 > 0:51:55The election of Donald Trump may have put a bit of a dampener
0:51:55 > 0:51:59on the political relationship between Scotland and America,
0:51:59 > 0:52:04but in a country that so many Scottish migrants helped to shape,
0:52:04 > 0:52:09there are more enduring bonds - shared history, family, culture.
0:52:12 > 0:52:13BAGPIPES PLAY
0:52:16 > 0:52:22In rural Virginia, in Scottish weather, a taste of the old country.
0:52:23 > 0:52:25That's really good.
0:52:32 > 0:52:36American Scots from all over the States come to games like this
0:52:36 > 0:52:40to celebrate their heritage and eat haggis.
0:52:40 > 0:52:41- There you go. - Lovely, thanks very much.
0:52:41 > 0:52:45- You're welcome. - Is this a popular dish on your menu?
0:52:45 > 0:52:47One of the first things we run out of.
0:52:47 > 0:52:49- Really?- Yeah.- So can I try it with some whisky sauce, then?
0:52:49 > 0:52:50Absolutely.
0:52:52 > 0:52:55- I'm not quite so sure with the whisky sauce.- Oh.
0:52:55 > 0:52:57Having a half-Scottish President
0:52:57 > 0:52:59should be good for strengthening links
0:52:59 > 0:53:02between Scotland and America.
0:53:02 > 0:53:05If it was anyone other than Donald Trump,
0:53:05 > 0:53:07we'd be claiming him as one of our own.
0:53:07 > 0:53:11Is it just possible we're missing a trick?
0:53:11 > 0:53:14Did you know that your President, President Trump, is half-Scottish?
0:53:15 > 0:53:19I was aware of that. I try and deny that as much as I can.
0:53:19 > 0:53:21- Oh, do you? - I'm not a big fan of him.
0:53:21 > 0:53:24Did you know that your President is half-Scottish?
0:53:24 > 0:53:27- I did not.- His mum was from the Isle of Lewis.
0:53:27 > 0:53:30- I got to tell you, I'm on a Trump-free weekend.- Oh!
0:53:32 > 0:53:36So, if you're a MacLeod, might you be related to President Trump?
0:53:36 > 0:53:38Eurgh, hopefully not!
0:53:38 > 0:53:40You know his mum was a MacLeod from the Isle of Lewis?
0:53:40 > 0:53:43Really? As I said, a distant cousin.
0:53:43 > 0:53:47There is an invitation for President Trump to come to the UK
0:53:47 > 0:53:50on a state visit, which is quite controversial.
0:53:50 > 0:53:53- What do you think we should do? - Oh, I think he should go.
0:53:53 > 0:53:54I think he should go.
0:53:54 > 0:53:59Any opportunity to strengthen bonds should be welcomed.
0:53:59 > 0:54:01His mum was from the Isle of Lewis.
0:54:01 > 0:54:03- OK.- Who knew?- She was a MacLeod from the Isle of Lewis.
0:54:03 > 0:54:06Oh. I didn't know that.
0:54:06 > 0:54:09- Good to know.- I would say, if more people knew
0:54:09 > 0:54:13and he was able to portray that positively...
0:54:13 > 0:54:18- ..that that would be... - You are so politically correct!
0:54:19 > 0:54:21Thank you!
0:54:21 > 0:54:23Did you know that President Trump is half-Scottish?
0:54:25 > 0:54:26Are you serious?!
0:54:26 > 0:54:30Yeah, his mum was born and raised on the Isle of Lewis.
0:54:30 > 0:54:35I love Donald Trump, so that just makes everything so much better.
0:54:35 > 0:54:36Maybe he should make more of it.
0:54:36 > 0:54:38Oh, you're saying that President Trump
0:54:38 > 0:54:41should kind of admit that he is a little bit Scottish
0:54:41 > 0:54:43and start to connect to his heritage?
0:54:43 > 0:54:45I don't know, do you think that's a good idea?
0:54:45 > 0:54:49I think so, yeah, even if the Scots deny it, which I assume they will.
0:54:49 > 0:54:51I think...
0:54:51 > 0:54:53Well, he's not universally popular in Scotland, that's true.
0:54:53 > 0:54:58Mm-hm. I hear he's more German than anything else, so...
0:54:58 > 0:55:00So, do you get on well with the Saint Andrew's Society?
0:55:00 > 0:55:02Do you do stuff together as well?
0:55:02 > 0:55:04- No, we don't, but... - Oh, I see, this is local.
0:55:04 > 0:55:05- Right.- This is this county.
0:55:05 > 0:55:09Now, I have difficulty pronouncing...
0:55:09 > 0:55:11- Faw-kee-err.- I beg your pardon?
0:55:11 > 0:55:12OK, we're just going!
0:55:15 > 0:55:17He's got that caber up, let's give them some encouragement.
0:55:17 > 0:55:21Come on, Brady. Show 'em how it's done.
0:55:25 > 0:55:28There we go. That's what we came to see.
0:55:30 > 0:55:31As I come around...
0:55:31 > 0:55:34In Scotland, we love a good argument.
0:55:34 > 0:55:37For centuries, we've been famous for fighting.
0:55:37 > 0:55:39Don't point that at my face.
0:55:39 > 0:55:40I'm going to point it.
0:55:41 > 0:55:43It's my job. I kind of have to.
0:55:43 > 0:55:44- OK.- I'm going to let you attack me.
0:55:44 > 0:55:46- OK.- I'm a professional.
0:55:46 > 0:55:48Is this going to end up hurting me?
0:55:48 > 0:55:50I hope so, but it should be OK.
0:55:50 > 0:55:54Is taking a stand a barrier to a beautiful friendship?
0:55:55 > 0:55:59Does anyone have any choice but to hold Donald Trump at arm's length?
0:55:59 > 0:56:04He sullies everything that he comes in contact with.
0:56:04 > 0:56:07You cannot do business with this person and come out whole.
0:56:13 > 0:56:15I think it's probably safe to say that there are Scots
0:56:15 > 0:56:18who just can't stand Donald Trump, as there are Americans
0:56:18 > 0:56:22who can't stand Donald Trump, but I think it would behoove them to...
0:56:22 > 0:56:25You know, the American people made their decision
0:56:25 > 0:56:26and welcome him with open arms
0:56:26 > 0:56:30and have candid talks and move on.
0:56:31 > 0:56:34The Donald Trump you saw in Scotland
0:56:34 > 0:56:38demonstrated to Scots, before the world understood,
0:56:38 > 0:56:41that he is not a man to be trusted.
0:56:41 > 0:56:45That this is a person who will do and say almost anything
0:56:45 > 0:56:46to gain for himself -
0:56:46 > 0:56:50and it's why the world no longer looks to the United States
0:56:50 > 0:56:52for the leadership it once provided.
0:56:56 > 0:56:58Do you want to thrive? Do you want to prosper?
0:56:58 > 0:57:01Do you want to be friends with the most powerful man in the world
0:57:01 > 0:57:03who runs the most powerful country in the world?
0:57:03 > 0:57:05It's a rhetorical question, right?
0:57:08 > 0:57:11Love him or loathe him,
0:57:11 > 0:57:16Donald Trump is arguably the most Scottish President in US history.
0:57:16 > 0:57:18Remember, Trump's a nice guy.
0:57:18 > 0:57:23What would be nice is to be able to predict what will happen next.
0:57:23 > 0:57:26Unfortunately, that's not possible.
0:57:26 > 0:57:28Looking back, Donald Trump's
0:57:28 > 0:57:32dealings in Scotland have left a very mixed legacy.
0:57:33 > 0:57:36- Where are we now, David? - Well, this is our rooftop -
0:57:36 > 0:57:39our lookout, if you like. This is where we get the best view from,
0:57:39 > 0:57:41where we can see what's going on in the area.
0:57:41 > 0:57:43And you're also flying a couple of flags,
0:57:43 > 0:57:45the Saltire of Scotland and...
0:57:45 > 0:57:47And the Mexican flag.
0:57:47 > 0:57:50- Why?- Well, the Mexican flag is just in solidarity
0:57:50 > 0:57:51with the Mexican people.
0:57:51 > 0:57:54Basically because Trump has threatened to build a wall
0:57:54 > 0:57:57and make them pay for it. He's already tried that here.
0:57:57 > 0:57:59He built a fence and sent us a bill for it.
0:58:03 > 0:58:05He likes to win.
0:58:05 > 0:58:07He's a great deal-maker
0:58:07 > 0:58:10and he sees the potential in places and people
0:58:10 > 0:58:15and has the ability to create extraordinary things.
0:58:16 > 0:58:18Do you think Trump might sell?
0:58:18 > 0:58:20No.
0:58:20 > 0:58:22- Absolutely not.- Why are you so sure?
0:58:22 > 0:58:24Because he loves this place.