0:00:02 > 0:00:07In Britain, one in four say they believe in reincarnation.
0:00:07 > 0:00:11The idea that we live not once, not twice,
0:00:11 > 0:00:14but countless lives, has great appeal.
0:00:15 > 0:00:18Death itself doesn't exist.
0:00:18 > 0:00:22The soul is stepping in, to one body, to the next.
0:00:24 > 0:00:27An idea so enticing,
0:00:27 > 0:00:33it's embraced by celebrities, like Julia Roberts and Britney Spears.
0:00:33 > 0:00:36It's also a belief found in many faiths -
0:00:36 > 0:00:39Sikhism, Jainism,
0:00:39 > 0:00:42Kabbalah and Scientology.
0:00:44 > 0:00:48A third of Christians say they believe in it, even though
0:00:48 > 0:00:50it's not a part of Christian doctrine.
0:00:51 > 0:00:55But today, the true meaning of this ancient belief
0:00:55 > 0:00:57seems to have got lost.
0:00:57 > 0:01:01Reincarnation has its roots in the world's oldest organised religion -
0:01:01 > 0:01:03Hinduism.
0:01:03 > 0:01:07It's like the difference between Heaven and Earth for us.
0:01:07 > 0:01:10If you create a good bank balance in the bank of God,
0:01:10 > 0:01:15you get a new life, but based on your previous life,
0:01:15 > 0:01:16and that is reincarnation.
0:01:17 > 0:01:20Far from being a spiritual accessory,
0:01:20 > 0:01:22it's a belief that makes real demands.
0:01:23 > 0:01:25This earth plane is a school.
0:01:25 > 0:01:27We have to learn certain lessons,
0:01:27 > 0:01:31and every time we fail, we have to repeat that class again.
0:01:31 > 0:01:35Other people might say perhaps you're going through this bad time,
0:01:35 > 0:01:37because you were a bad person.
0:01:37 > 0:01:42If I was, then in this life, I'm going to put that right.
0:01:42 > 0:01:46Reincarnation is a trap. Life, then death, then life then death.
0:01:46 > 0:01:47It's mundane.
0:01:50 > 0:01:54As Hindus prepare to celebrate Diwali, we ask,
0:01:54 > 0:01:58what does reincarnation actually mean to British Hindus?
0:02:09 > 0:02:10In a funeral home in North London,
0:02:10 > 0:02:16the Patel family mark the passing of 84-year-old Baa Patel,
0:02:16 > 0:02:20or at least, the passing of her current life.
0:02:22 > 0:02:25For this is no ordinary funeral.
0:02:29 > 0:02:33Hindus believe that death isn't the end, it is the beginning of life.
0:02:33 > 0:02:36THEY CHANT
0:02:38 > 0:02:41These are sacred items,
0:02:41 > 0:02:45which signify that we are performing a fire sacrifice.
0:02:46 > 0:02:51This first part of the ceremony is led by Hindu priest Nila Madhava Das.
0:02:51 > 0:02:54HE CHANTS
0:02:55 > 0:03:01Within the Hindu culture, death itself doesn't exist.
0:03:01 > 0:03:06Because the true identity of the body is the soul,
0:03:06 > 0:03:07which is what we are.
0:03:07 > 0:03:12And for the soul there is neither birth, death, old age or disease.
0:03:12 > 0:03:17And hence therefore, when the body dies, the soul comes out,
0:03:17 > 0:03:21and transmigrates into another existence, another body.
0:03:21 > 0:03:23And that's the Hindu belief.
0:03:29 > 0:03:33Nila takes inspiration from Hindu scripture - the Bhagavad Gita.
0:03:36 > 0:03:40It says that the true identity of the individual is the atma,
0:03:40 > 0:03:42the soul.
0:03:45 > 0:03:47The Patels believe this ceremony
0:03:47 > 0:03:51helps their grandmother's soul leave the body.
0:03:53 > 0:03:55Without it, she could become a ghost,
0:03:55 > 0:03:58unable to be reborn into another life.
0:04:02 > 0:04:05I feel she is probably somewhere,
0:04:05 > 0:04:08just very happy, smiling,
0:04:08 > 0:04:12and sort of beginning to live a new life.
0:04:12 > 0:04:14I don't think she had a bad bone in her body,
0:04:14 > 0:04:18- so I hope that in her next life... - She's rewarded.
0:04:18 > 0:04:21She lives the best of the best life.
0:04:21 > 0:04:24She looked after everyone, doesn't matter who they were.
0:04:24 > 0:04:26She took them under her wing and that was it.
0:04:26 > 0:04:30So wherever she may be now, I hope it's just...what she wants.
0:04:30 > 0:04:32- Peace.- Just good, good luck.
0:04:32 > 0:04:35I know people have different perception of reincarnation,
0:04:35 > 0:04:39but I believe that she's probably born into another human being.
0:04:39 > 0:04:42So the next baby that's born, that could be her,
0:04:42 > 0:04:44coming back as another human being.
0:04:44 > 0:04:48PRIEST PRAYS
0:04:52 > 0:04:55We shall conclude the ceremony with the sounding
0:04:55 > 0:04:58of the auspicious shankh.
0:04:58 > 0:05:01The sound is transcendental sound vibration,
0:05:01 > 0:05:07which signifies that we have begun and ended a particular ceremony.
0:05:09 > 0:05:12HE BLOWS INTO SHANKH
0:05:20 > 0:05:21On the face of it,
0:05:21 > 0:05:25reincarnation seems to make few demands on believers.
0:05:27 > 0:05:29In fact, it's quite the opposite.
0:05:32 > 0:05:36Deepu Murpuri runs his own company,
0:05:36 > 0:05:40and lives a comfortable life with his wife Gita in North London.
0:05:42 > 0:05:47They are devout Hindus who know they have a good life.
0:05:50 > 0:05:54Every week, Deepu meets up with 18 other Hindu families
0:05:54 > 0:05:56in central London.
0:05:56 > 0:05:58- You got enough volunteers?- Yeah.
0:05:58 > 0:05:59- The bananas?- Yeah.
0:05:59 > 0:06:02That's the drinks side,
0:06:02 > 0:06:04and then, we do the food on that side.
0:06:04 > 0:06:06So you can come and join us on the food side.
0:06:06 > 0:06:10Together, their charity, the Sadhu Vaswani Centre,
0:06:10 > 0:06:12gives food to the homeless.
0:06:13 > 0:06:18In the Bhagavad Gita, it says you must do your duty.
0:06:18 > 0:06:22And this is our duty - to help our fellow man.
0:06:22 > 0:06:24But by the grace of God,
0:06:24 > 0:06:27one of these men could have been me.
0:06:27 > 0:06:31And I would like to think there would be someone coming out
0:06:31 > 0:06:35to feed me, so I thank God for all the privileges
0:06:35 > 0:06:38he has bestowed on me and my friends and family.
0:06:38 > 0:06:41So we do a little part, to pay back.
0:06:41 > 0:06:44OK, where are the serving spoons?
0:06:44 > 0:06:48Belief in reincarnation also means Deepu has half an eye
0:06:48 > 0:06:50on the next life.
0:06:52 > 0:06:53Knowing that we have many lives,
0:06:53 > 0:06:58it keeps us aware that we must continuously do good actions
0:06:58 > 0:07:03and be good, so that our future lives are more comfortable.
0:07:06 > 0:07:12The whole idea of reincarnation hinges on another belief.
0:07:13 > 0:07:18Reincarnation can only exist with the concept of karma.
0:07:18 > 0:07:21And karma is, what goes around, comes around.
0:07:21 > 0:07:25It is Newton's third law of motion, for instance -
0:07:25 > 0:07:29to every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction.
0:07:29 > 0:07:35Hence, it would be advisable to perform positive activity
0:07:35 > 0:07:38which is not detrimental to the soul.
0:07:38 > 0:07:43Good activities, humanitarian activities, pious activities,
0:07:43 > 0:07:46and above that, devotion to God.
0:07:49 > 0:07:52'Our karma changes what we go to the next life.
0:07:52 > 0:07:58'So bad karma is very bad karma, and then, next life is'
0:07:58 > 0:08:02where you go through pain and hassle and trouble.
0:08:02 > 0:08:04And you just pay, pay, pay.
0:08:04 > 0:08:07You have no say in anything, you cannot control anything.
0:08:07 > 0:08:13But if you do good enough deeds in this life,
0:08:13 > 0:08:17and create a good bank balance in the bank of God,
0:08:17 > 0:08:18which is transferable,
0:08:18 > 0:08:22simply speaking, you get into good karma.
0:08:25 > 0:08:30Reincarnation asks of Hindus that they lead a virtuous life.
0:08:32 > 0:08:36But doing good to others isn't the whole story.
0:08:36 > 0:08:40Deepu also feeds the birds in Regent's Park.
0:08:42 > 0:08:47There's a thread of life, going through the whole of Creation.
0:08:47 > 0:08:51And animals are our younger brothers and sisters.
0:08:51 > 0:08:55They have the same feelings as we have for their offspring,
0:08:55 > 0:08:58they also form relations, and they feel pain as well.
0:09:00 > 0:09:03Maybe in a previous lifetime I was one of these pigeons,
0:09:03 > 0:09:06and I was being fed.
0:09:06 > 0:09:09So by way of thanking God, I want to return the favour.
0:09:14 > 0:09:17Hindu tradition suggests that all life is a pyramid,
0:09:17 > 0:09:19with humans at the top.
0:09:19 > 0:09:22But the soul, or atma, can move up and down
0:09:22 > 0:09:25through different forms of life.
0:09:25 > 0:09:28It would be a concern of a Hindu
0:09:28 > 0:09:31to better him or herself,
0:09:31 > 0:09:35because if one doesn't, then most certainly,
0:09:35 > 0:09:38within the Hindu belief,
0:09:38 > 0:09:41you don't really want to come back as a lower life form.
0:09:43 > 0:09:45If you are, let's say, a human being
0:09:45 > 0:09:50and you have performed karma which is somewhat detrimental,
0:09:50 > 0:09:53then you would come back as a lower life form,
0:09:53 > 0:09:56which may not be necessarily desirable -
0:09:56 > 0:09:59a life of a dog, or a life of a cat, for instance.
0:09:59 > 0:10:03Of course, dogs and cats in this country are well looked after,
0:10:03 > 0:10:07but in the rest of the world, they're not so well looked after.
0:10:09 > 0:10:12Reincarnation is not a "feel-good" belief.
0:10:12 > 0:10:15It makes serious demands.
0:10:17 > 0:10:21But for some Hindus, it can also be a comfort.
0:10:26 > 0:10:29It can help come to terms with suffering and sorrow.
0:10:29 > 0:10:32SINGING
0:10:36 > 0:10:4150-year-old Satish Topiwala has lived in Leicester for 40 years
0:10:41 > 0:10:43with his wife and family.
0:10:44 > 0:10:48As a child, he was paralysed with polio.
0:10:48 > 0:10:51He couldn't walk for most of his early years,
0:10:51 > 0:10:53and today he walks using callipers.
0:10:58 > 0:11:02Some Hindus believe that his polio could be down to bad karma
0:11:02 > 0:11:04in a previous life.
0:11:06 > 0:11:08Yet for Satish, his faith in reincarnation
0:11:08 > 0:11:12has left him with a positive outlook.
0:11:12 > 0:11:16He even sees his condition as an opportunity.
0:11:16 > 0:11:19People might say perhaps you are going through this bad time
0:11:19 > 0:11:21because you were a bad person before.
0:11:21 > 0:11:26So OK, if I was, then in this life I'm going to put that right.
0:11:26 > 0:11:29I'm going to do all the good things in this life,
0:11:29 > 0:11:32so that I can cover all the bad things I did previously.
0:11:34 > 0:11:37So by being a good human being and doing good deeds,
0:11:37 > 0:11:42what I'm doing is overcoming all the bad deeds I may have done
0:11:42 > 0:11:46in my previous life, and so much so,
0:11:46 > 0:11:49that if I come back as a human being,
0:11:49 > 0:11:52then I don't go through the same problem,
0:11:52 > 0:11:54and do even greater deeds in my next life.
0:11:57 > 0:12:01Reincarnation even helps him confront tragedy.
0:12:05 > 0:12:07One weekend, five years ago,
0:12:07 > 0:12:10Satish's faith was put to the ultimate test.
0:12:13 > 0:12:16His 17-year-old son Vishal
0:12:16 > 0:12:19was about to start an apprenticeship in construction.
0:12:20 > 0:12:25And Satish was looking forward to helping his son prepare for it.
0:12:25 > 0:12:28But this weekend would end in tragic loss.
0:12:30 > 0:12:32That particular weekend, I was going to take him
0:12:32 > 0:12:37to buy some...construction boots and stuff,
0:12:37 > 0:12:40and a hard hat and things.
0:12:40 > 0:12:45But he wasn't feeling too good the day before, which was a Friday,
0:12:45 > 0:12:49and Saturday morning, we felt that, OK, he's having a lie-in,
0:12:49 > 0:12:52which was very unusual for him.
0:12:52 > 0:12:55So we let him, and I made a cooked breakfast, which he enjoys,
0:12:55 > 0:12:59and just as it was ready to be served,
0:12:59 > 0:13:04I said, "It's a bit late", because it was almost 11, 11.30,
0:13:04 > 0:13:08so I went along to see about getting him up.
0:13:08 > 0:13:11And as soon as I opened his bedroom door...
0:13:11 > 0:13:15I just felt in my heart that... he's no longer with us.
0:13:19 > 0:13:22Vishal had died in the middle of the night.
0:13:24 > 0:13:26The coroner gave an open verdict.
0:13:29 > 0:13:33The colour of his body - I just felt it.
0:13:33 > 0:13:35I touched him and he was cold.
0:13:35 > 0:13:39And I think that's one of the other things which I've found very hard,
0:13:39 > 0:13:42is since then, it's like a video recording.
0:13:42 > 0:13:47Because I saw that, and every time I see, or try to remember him,
0:13:47 > 0:13:50that's the first thing that comes. It's like on a loop.
0:13:50 > 0:13:54I just keep seeing that image of him lying there.
0:13:56 > 0:13:59As a parent, if your kids die before you,
0:13:59 > 0:14:01it's very difficult to handle.
0:14:01 > 0:14:04It hit me very badly.
0:14:08 > 0:14:12HE SINGS
0:14:12 > 0:14:15Satish sought help from local priest Hemang Bhatt,
0:14:15 > 0:14:16who conducted his son's funeral,
0:14:16 > 0:14:21and helped him begin to make sense of this immense loss.
0:14:21 > 0:14:24THEY SING
0:14:27 > 0:14:30'I know Satish's family very well,
0:14:30 > 0:14:33'because I have done a couple of religious ceremonies
0:14:33 > 0:14:35'with their family.'
0:14:37 > 0:14:41It was a very hard time when I did the funeral,
0:14:41 > 0:14:43last time at their house.
0:14:45 > 0:14:47Especially his son.
0:14:47 > 0:14:49A very, very moving occasion.
0:14:49 > 0:14:53Most of the time when we do the funeral of elders,
0:14:53 > 0:14:56we say we want to celebrate their life,
0:14:56 > 0:14:59whilst we are upset that they have left us.
0:14:59 > 0:15:01But when somebody passes away at a younger age,
0:15:01 > 0:15:03it's very hard to digest.
0:15:05 > 0:15:09It was very hard for both of us to perform the ceremony.
0:15:12 > 0:15:17It is only now that Satish has come to terms with the incomprehensible.
0:15:19 > 0:15:20My son's life was limited.
0:15:20 > 0:15:24From the moment he was born, he was going to go, at age of 17,
0:15:24 > 0:15:26but I didn't know about it.
0:15:26 > 0:15:30But now, I've come to accept, that was his time with us.
0:15:33 > 0:15:38In life, reincarnation asks believers to see a purpose in suffering
0:15:38 > 0:15:40and to live a virtuous life.
0:15:44 > 0:15:46But it also makes great demands
0:15:46 > 0:15:50when dealing with the event that comes to all of us...
0:15:52 > 0:15:53..death itself.
0:15:57 > 0:15:59In India, a successful rebirth
0:15:59 > 0:16:02relies on meticulous attention to ritual.
0:16:07 > 0:16:11The key is devotion to Agni, the god of fire.
0:16:17 > 0:16:22The majority of the ceremonies conducted within the Hindu culture
0:16:22 > 0:16:25would consist of a fire sacrifice.
0:16:25 > 0:16:28When one gets married, for instance,
0:16:28 > 0:16:31one gets married in front of the fire sacrifice.
0:16:31 > 0:16:34The fire is the witness.
0:16:34 > 0:16:38And the ultimate and the final fire sacrifice which is performed
0:16:38 > 0:16:43is that of death, whereby the body is cremated.
0:16:46 > 0:16:51In India, bodies are burned on an open funeral pyre for all to see.
0:16:51 > 0:16:53It's a public ceremony
0:16:53 > 0:16:57that graphically confronts the mourners with their own mortality.
0:16:58 > 0:17:04In the open pyre, we used to see the body parts detach and burn away.
0:17:04 > 0:17:07That was called "smashana vairagya",
0:17:07 > 0:17:12which means, "Look at that which is happening just now.
0:17:12 > 0:17:14"No sooner is it going to happen to you.
0:17:14 > 0:17:18"Why waste your time and argue about small things in this world,
0:17:18 > 0:17:22"when the bigger picture is, you will only be here for so long?"
0:17:22 > 0:17:26And that's a good physical reminder, according to Hindu faith.
0:17:28 > 0:17:31The burning of the body is crucial.
0:17:31 > 0:17:34We give the body to the fire,
0:17:34 > 0:17:38the fire helps us convert it back to where it came from,
0:17:38 > 0:17:40the five basic elements -
0:17:40 > 0:17:45earth, water, air, fire, and emptiness.
0:17:45 > 0:17:51This fire encourages the soul, or atma, to quickly leave the body
0:17:51 > 0:17:53to go on its journey to the next life.
0:17:57 > 0:18:02In North London, it's the second part of the funeral of Baa Patel.
0:18:02 > 0:18:06Today, her body is escorted to the crematorium.
0:18:07 > 0:18:11And just like in India, the aim is to release the soul,
0:18:11 > 0:18:14so that it can begin its reincarnation.
0:18:18 > 0:18:22PRIEST PRAYS
0:18:29 > 0:18:33This ceremony looks similar to other cremation services.
0:18:33 > 0:18:36There is music, prayers and eulogies.
0:18:42 > 0:18:46But it doesn't end when the final curtain is drawn.
0:18:47 > 0:18:51The Patels are expected to go to the furnace chamber
0:18:51 > 0:18:54to see the actual moment of cremation.
0:18:57 > 0:18:59If you left the coffin behind the curtains,
0:18:59 > 0:19:01in your mind it will be left behind the curtain,
0:19:01 > 0:19:04and you walked away, you think that the person is still there.
0:19:04 > 0:19:08Witnessing the cremation brings closure
0:19:08 > 0:19:14that the body has been cremated, and they have parted company with it
0:19:14 > 0:19:17and it is now disintegrating by fire.
0:19:20 > 0:19:24Witnessing the cremation reminds the family of their heritage.
0:19:29 > 0:19:33Most Hindu families are happy with cremation British-style.
0:19:41 > 0:19:45But some believe they should stick to traditional ways.
0:19:52 > 0:19:5539-year-old yoga teacher Ajay Kumar
0:19:55 > 0:19:59is spending every hour he can at the local hospital in Slough.
0:20:01 > 0:20:05He has just heard that his father, who is dying from liver cirrhosis,
0:20:05 > 0:20:08now has only a few days left to live.
0:20:10 > 0:20:13As the eldest son, he believes it's his duty
0:20:13 > 0:20:16to hold an open pyre cremation for his father.
0:20:20 > 0:20:22The problem with the current way of cremation
0:20:22 > 0:20:24is that it's a mechanical process.
0:20:26 > 0:20:29It's devoid of all spiritual practices.
0:20:30 > 0:20:32And the most important spiritual practice
0:20:32 > 0:20:36is the actual lighting of the fire, using what we call agni.
0:20:36 > 0:20:40There's a difference between agni, which is the divine fire,
0:20:40 > 0:20:43and just the ordinary fire.
0:20:43 > 0:20:46It's like the difference between Heaven and Earth for us.
0:20:49 > 0:20:53The funeral pyre is actually lit, literally, by the son.
0:20:53 > 0:20:57Then the holy fire, or agni, is invoked.
0:20:57 > 0:21:02And it's important for us to conduct these final rites correctly,
0:21:02 > 0:21:07so that the spirit soul, or "jeevatma", as we call it,
0:21:07 > 0:21:08can actually leave the body.
0:21:10 > 0:21:14If your final rites are not conducted correctly,
0:21:14 > 0:21:19then you would become a ghost and a spirit which is lost in other worlds
0:21:19 > 0:21:22and would never even reach its destination.
0:21:32 > 0:21:36More and more British Hindus want to hold open pyre cremations.
0:21:39 > 0:21:43Last year, in a landmark ruling at London's Court of Appeal,
0:21:43 > 0:21:4872-year-old Davinder Ghai won his case to be cremated this way.
0:21:48 > 0:21:53It's so important because it's to free the soul.
0:21:53 > 0:21:55And that helps for the reincarnation.
0:21:55 > 0:22:00And if the soul is restless, you can't be born again.
0:22:02 > 0:22:06But as yet, no council has given planning permission
0:22:06 > 0:22:09for a suitable building to hold an open pyre cremation.
0:22:09 > 0:22:14Until that happens, such a ceremony would be illegal.
0:22:17 > 0:22:22At this moment I am writing a letter to the council, asking them,
0:22:22 > 0:22:27pleading to them really, to, at this late stage,
0:22:27 > 0:22:33to consider granting us a plot of land,
0:22:33 > 0:22:38temporary access, to perform this open pyre cremation.
0:22:40 > 0:22:44Two days after this interview, Ajay's father died.
0:22:48 > 0:22:53Ajay wasn't given permission to hold an open-air funeral pyre.
0:22:53 > 0:22:56But at the local crematorium,
0:22:56 > 0:23:00the council allowed him right into the furnace room.
0:23:02 > 0:23:06There, he lit his father's body with agni,
0:23:06 > 0:23:08the holy fire.
0:23:25 > 0:23:28Belief in reincarnation is not the spiritual accessory
0:23:28 > 0:23:32so many in the West believe it is.
0:23:32 > 0:23:35Indeed, a virtuous life
0:23:35 > 0:23:39and precise rituals are not even what's most demanding about it.
0:23:40 > 0:23:44The biggest challenge is the sheer numbers of cycles
0:23:44 > 0:23:46of birth and rebirth.
0:23:50 > 0:23:52It is mentioned in the Bhagavad Gita
0:23:52 > 0:23:58that there are 8.4 million species of life, just within this universe.
0:23:58 > 0:24:05So the soul has the opportunity to transmigrate into all these species.
0:24:05 > 0:24:07There are lots of life forms,
0:24:07 > 0:24:11and you could start with the simplest of bacterium,
0:24:11 > 0:24:14and there are lots of varieties in there - millions.
0:24:14 > 0:24:18And then you go to viruses - again, millions.
0:24:18 > 0:24:22And then you go to small insects, small animals,
0:24:22 > 0:24:26then you go to the mammals - dogs, cats...
0:24:26 > 0:24:30And then you go finally to human level.
0:24:31 > 0:24:37But if 8.4 million cycles does indeed seem like an infinity,
0:24:37 > 0:24:40the rewards are also infinitely blissful.
0:24:43 > 0:24:51The end goal of reincarnation is to achieve the ultimate salvation,
0:24:51 > 0:24:54and that is in the spiritual world,
0:24:54 > 0:24:57and to attain a spiritual body, which is eternal.
0:24:57 > 0:25:00And when one attains a spiritual body,
0:25:00 > 0:25:02reincarnation ceases to exist.
0:25:05 > 0:25:09In Hinduism, this state is called moksha,
0:25:09 > 0:25:15meaning liberation, mukti, release, and most commonly, nirvana.
0:25:15 > 0:25:21Nirvana is a state, and during that state, you don't have a body.
0:25:21 > 0:25:25You are bodiless, in energy form with God.
0:25:27 > 0:25:29And therefore, the bodiless state of nirvana
0:25:29 > 0:25:35alleviates all the problems associated with the body.
0:25:38 > 0:25:41It's indescribable, because it's...
0:25:41 > 0:25:45the best form of unconditional love you can imagine.
0:25:45 > 0:25:48It's contentment, it's joy.
0:25:48 > 0:25:50It's when there is no want,
0:25:50 > 0:25:54and you are just at peace, for an eternity.
0:25:55 > 0:25:58It's undescribable, they say.
0:25:58 > 0:26:01You merge with the supreme consciousness,
0:26:01 > 0:26:03like we are drops of an ocean,
0:26:03 > 0:26:06and then we just merge with this mighty ocean,
0:26:06 > 0:26:09where there is just complete tranquillity.
0:26:11 > 0:26:15I won't be in a body, I won't be in anything.
0:26:15 > 0:26:17I will be a spirit.
0:26:19 > 0:26:22I don't think where I am going to go is a physical place.
0:26:22 > 0:26:25I won't be a tree, I won't be wearing glasses any more,
0:26:25 > 0:26:28I won't be a disabled person.
0:26:28 > 0:26:31Whatever gives you that ultimate pleasure,
0:26:31 > 0:26:34imagine that, for ever.
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