0:00:02 > 0:00:03God is eternal. God is infinite.
0:00:03 > 0:00:07America is fighting for its soul.
0:00:07 > 0:00:10Your sin is the reason you're going to hell.
0:00:10 > 0:00:11Hey. What's up?
0:00:11 > 0:00:14The Obama era has alienated and angered
0:00:14 > 0:00:17a growing number of evangelical Christians.
0:00:17 > 0:00:21I didn't choose this fight! This fight has come to us.
0:00:21 > 0:00:24And you know what I say? Bring it on!
0:00:24 > 0:00:25I've spent nearly six months
0:00:25 > 0:00:29following two of the country's most radical Christian hate groups -
0:00:29 > 0:00:32a pastor banned from entering the UK...
0:00:32 > 0:00:35No homos will ever be allowed in this church
0:00:35 > 0:00:37as long as I am the pastor here.
0:00:37 > 0:00:39Never!
0:00:39 > 0:00:42..and a network who take their extreme and shocking views
0:00:42 > 0:00:44onto the streets.
0:00:44 > 0:00:47You might have an Muslim walking around here today
0:00:47 > 0:00:50that made bombs for Allah and will take you out.
0:00:50 > 0:00:52They're preaching intolerance and homophobia
0:00:52 > 0:00:55more and more aggressively.
0:00:55 > 0:00:59It's disgusting. There is no reason for them to be like that.
0:00:59 > 0:01:01They're gaining new followers
0:01:01 > 0:01:04as American politics becomes increasingly polarised.
0:01:04 > 0:01:09Donald J Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown
0:01:09 > 0:01:12of Muslims entering the United States.
0:01:12 > 0:01:13Get back, Muslim.
0:01:13 > 0:01:15Here's some bacon for you, swine.
0:01:15 > 0:01:18Pastor Anderson, here I am.
0:01:18 > 0:01:20Are any of you guys homos or just sympathisers?
0:01:20 > 0:01:23Welcome to the world of Christian hate preaching.
0:01:23 > 0:01:25No-one will ever shut me down.
0:01:25 > 0:01:27The only way to shut me down is to kill me.
0:01:27 > 0:01:29And even if they kill me,
0:01:29 > 0:01:31I'll just be that much more popular.
0:01:46 > 0:01:50Last November, Paris was hit by a wave of terror attacks.
0:01:52 > 0:01:5690 people were murdered at an Eagles of Death Metal concert.
0:02:00 > 0:02:04Around the world, there was an outpouring of grief.
0:02:04 > 0:02:08But one striking voice spoke out with the opposite message.
0:02:09 > 0:02:13You know, there is something about when you go to a concert
0:02:13 > 0:02:14of death metal...
0:02:14 > 0:02:16somebody might get killed!
0:02:17 > 0:02:20You know, you're worshipping death and then all of a sudden,
0:02:20 > 0:02:23people start dying, "Wait a minute, what is going on?"
0:02:23 > 0:02:26Well, you love death so much, you bought the ticket.
0:02:27 > 0:02:29You love worshipping Satan.
0:02:29 > 0:02:32Well, let's have some of Satan's religion come in and shoot you,
0:02:32 > 0:02:35I mean, that's what these people should think about
0:02:35 > 0:02:38before they go to such a wicked concert.
0:02:44 > 0:02:45Pastor Steven Anderson's sermon,
0:02:45 > 0:02:49The Sinful Nation of France, was widely condemned,
0:02:49 > 0:02:53but it still got nearly a quarter of a million hits on YouTube.
0:02:54 > 0:02:58He has become one of America's most notorious hate preachers,
0:02:58 > 0:03:02and has been banned from entering other countries, including the UK.
0:03:04 > 0:03:06I travelled to the US to find out
0:03:06 > 0:03:09why his extreme brand of Christianity is spreading
0:03:09 > 0:03:11and what impact this is having.
0:03:12 > 0:03:16As our country becomes more degenerate,
0:03:16 > 0:03:19and as our country goes down the drain morally,
0:03:19 > 0:03:22then people are more willing to listen to someone like me.
0:03:22 > 0:03:26Because, about five or ten years ago a lot of the stuff that I preached,
0:03:26 > 0:03:28people thought it was too radical,
0:03:28 > 0:03:31but now they're starting to see, "Oh, wow, he's right."
0:03:33 > 0:03:37I think what makes our church special is just...
0:03:37 > 0:03:42how the preaching is totally unfiltered, uncensored,
0:03:42 > 0:03:45just raw Bible preaching, and that's what people are looking for.
0:03:51 > 0:03:55Around 300 people attend Steven's church in Arizona,
0:03:55 > 0:03:59triple the size of an average American congregation.
0:04:01 > 0:04:03Let me ask you something,
0:04:03 > 0:04:07is our government for homosexuality or against homosexuality?
0:04:07 > 0:04:08- CONGREGATION:- For.
0:04:08 > 0:04:09There is no question about it.
0:04:09 > 0:04:11I mean, in the month of June,
0:04:11 > 0:04:15our government celebrates for an entire month,
0:04:15 > 0:04:17a month of sodomy.
0:04:17 > 0:04:20June is LGBT month.
0:04:20 > 0:04:24Now, to me, LGBT stands for Let God Burn Them.
0:04:24 > 0:04:25Right.
0:04:25 > 0:04:30OK, but to them, it means lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender.
0:04:30 > 0:04:33But... Well, it's LGBTQ.
0:04:33 > 0:04:36Well, then you can say, Let God Burn Them Quickly.
0:04:36 > 0:04:39Let God Burn Them Queers or whatever.
0:04:39 > 0:04:41There is a difference between these people
0:04:41 > 0:04:43and the rest of the population.
0:04:47 > 0:04:49I couldn't believe what I'd just heard.
0:04:49 > 0:04:52Many Americans, including the majority of Christians,
0:04:52 > 0:04:55are also appalled by the extremity of Steven's views.
0:04:57 > 0:04:59But the constitutional right to free speech
0:04:59 > 0:05:02means that Steven can preach homophobic sermons
0:05:02 > 0:05:05without fear of being arrested.
0:05:05 > 0:05:09To normal people, homosexuality or paedophilia are disgusting, so...
0:05:09 > 0:05:11To a normal person.
0:05:15 > 0:05:16They are in the same group.
0:05:16 > 0:05:20Because any man who would have sex with another man
0:05:20 > 0:05:23would have sex with anything. Period.
0:05:23 > 0:05:25Like, any... I'll put it this way -
0:05:25 > 0:05:27any man who would have sex with another man
0:05:27 > 0:05:29would have sex with an animal.
0:05:30 > 0:05:32It is true.
0:05:32 > 0:05:33That's reality.
0:05:33 > 0:05:35Even if you do not think it's reality
0:05:35 > 0:05:37because you have seen it on TV portrayed differently
0:05:37 > 0:05:39or you have known people in your personal life
0:05:39 > 0:05:42that pulled the wool over your eyes about what their lifestyle is like.
0:05:43 > 0:05:46What do you think homosexuals should do, then?
0:05:46 > 0:05:48Kill themselves as far, as I'm concerned,
0:05:48 > 0:05:51because they're horrible, wicked people,
0:05:51 > 0:05:54they're just going to keep molesting and destroying people,
0:05:54 > 0:05:56so I don't have any advice for homosexuals,
0:05:56 > 0:05:58except to put a bullet in your own head
0:05:58 > 0:06:01so that you do not molest my kids or anyone else's kids.
0:06:06 > 0:06:09Research suggests that America is broadly becoming
0:06:09 > 0:06:11more tolerant of homosexuality.
0:06:13 > 0:06:16Steven argues that his extreme homophobia
0:06:16 > 0:06:18is a response to this trend.
0:06:20 > 0:06:23The same research found that a whole third of the population
0:06:23 > 0:06:28still believe their society should not accept homosexuality.
0:06:29 > 0:06:34And LGBT people are still more likely to be victims of hate crimes
0:06:34 > 0:06:36than any other minority group.
0:06:40 > 0:06:43- Hi.- Come on in, you guys. - How is it going?
0:06:43 > 0:06:47Steven exploits this polarised feeling within his own congregation.
0:06:49 > 0:06:53I was invited to have lunch with Jenny and Juan.
0:06:53 > 0:06:55They disowned Juan's gay brother
0:06:55 > 0:06:57after listening to one of Steven's sermons.
0:06:59 > 0:07:03At the time we were still speaking with Juan's brother,
0:07:03 > 0:07:06- who is, you know, a reprobate also. - He's a queer.
0:07:06 > 0:07:12And... So when he came out with that sermon,
0:07:12 > 0:07:15it was, you know, definitely hard-hitting.
0:07:15 > 0:07:18No homos will ever be allowed on this church
0:07:18 > 0:07:20as long as I'm the pastor here.
0:07:20 > 0:07:23Never!
0:07:23 > 0:07:25That was it for me. I was like, "Right that's enough,
0:07:25 > 0:07:27"I do not even have to question it", pretty much.
0:07:27 > 0:07:30From thereon, we just never talked to my brother again.
0:07:31 > 0:07:36I think it was hard for my family to kind of see that.
0:07:36 > 0:07:39That seems like a pretty harsh position,
0:07:39 > 0:07:41it's your own brother, it's your own flesh and blood,
0:07:41 > 0:07:42you grew up together.
0:07:42 > 0:07:45Honestly, when you have the Holy Spirit in you and you're saved,
0:07:45 > 0:07:47it just doesn't matter what the world thinks,
0:07:47 > 0:07:49because they're going to hate you no matter what.
0:07:49 > 0:07:52He's not the brother that I knew, at all.
0:07:52 > 0:07:56He's not. He's not that same young kid that I grew up with,
0:07:56 > 0:08:01and it's unfortunate, but, you know...
0:08:01 > 0:08:04would it be any different if he went out and killed someone?
0:08:04 > 0:08:07Should I think differently just because he is my brother,
0:08:07 > 0:08:10he shouldn't get sentenced?
0:08:10 > 0:08:13He still killed someone, he's still a reprobate,
0:08:13 > 0:08:15God's laws are the same, you know,
0:08:15 > 0:08:17it's just the way that it is, you know?
0:08:17 > 0:08:19What do you think most people think about you
0:08:19 > 0:08:21and the way that you live now?
0:08:21 > 0:08:24My personal family, they think I'm in some kind of a cult.
0:08:24 > 0:08:26It's kind of, like...
0:08:26 > 0:08:28There is nothing cult...
0:08:28 > 0:08:32I mean, there isn't a cult-like atmosphere anywhere near the church.
0:08:35 > 0:08:37You know what?
0:08:37 > 0:08:39Isn't it amazing how all the homos hate Christians?
0:08:39 > 0:08:41- MEMBER OF CONGREGATION:- Right.
0:08:41 > 0:08:42But they are not considered a hate group.
0:08:42 > 0:08:43Yep.
0:08:43 > 0:08:46Many of the growing number of evangelical Christians in the US
0:08:46 > 0:08:49disapprove of Steven's preaching.
0:08:49 > 0:08:51Even though they hate Christianity.
0:08:51 > 0:08:54But he claims to have influenced thousands in America
0:08:54 > 0:08:57and around the world.
0:08:57 > 0:08:59According to the spirit of holiness, by the Resurrection...
0:08:59 > 0:09:03His videos have nearly 30 million hits on YouTube.
0:09:04 > 0:09:07In the last 30 days,
0:09:07 > 0:09:14people in the UK spent 232 days and 21 hours watching my channel.
0:09:14 > 0:09:16People in the United States in the last 30 days
0:09:16 > 0:09:20- spent over eight years watching the channel.- Wow!
0:09:20 > 0:09:24I've uploaded a ton of new content in French,
0:09:24 > 0:09:29including, right here, The Sinful Nation of France sermon in French.
0:09:29 > 0:09:34Do people ever ask you why you picked on France in particular?
0:09:34 > 0:09:36I've picked on a lot of countries.
0:09:36 > 0:09:38So with things that happen in America,
0:09:38 > 0:09:41like terrorist attacks in America, does America deserve that as well?
0:09:41 > 0:09:43Absolutely, yeah.
0:09:43 > 0:09:45Even as we spit in God's face,
0:09:45 > 0:09:48even as we murder 3,000 unborn babies a day,
0:09:48 > 0:09:52even as we promote homosexuality and adultery and promiscuity
0:09:52 > 0:09:53all over the world,
0:09:53 > 0:09:56and then we just assume nothing bad's going to happen?
0:09:56 > 0:09:57It doesn't make any sense,
0:09:57 > 0:09:59it doesn't jive with what the Bible teaches.
0:09:59 > 0:10:04The Bible says that the wicked shall be turned into hell
0:10:04 > 0:10:07and all the nations that forget God.
0:10:07 > 0:10:08So, that's the United States.
0:10:18 > 0:10:21# Jesus loves me This I know
0:10:21 > 0:10:24# For the Bible tells me so... #
0:10:24 > 0:10:28Steven says his extreme views were formed by his upbringing
0:10:28 > 0:10:30in an independent Baptist church.
0:10:36 > 0:10:39But his wife Susannah wasn't religious at all
0:10:39 > 0:10:41until their marriage.
0:10:41 > 0:10:46When you were younger, did you think this was how your life would be?
0:10:46 > 0:10:48No. No, I didn't.
0:10:48 > 0:10:50No.
0:10:50 > 0:10:52I first met her and her eight children
0:10:52 > 0:10:56when she was pregnant with baby number nine.
0:10:56 > 0:10:58She home-schools all her kids.
0:10:58 > 0:11:01Do you see Steven as your boss?
0:11:01 > 0:11:05It depends on what area, I mean... Yes, the short answer is yes.
0:11:07 > 0:11:10Steven has convinced her that women should stay at home
0:11:10 > 0:11:14and shouldn't vote or run for president, like Hillary Clinton.
0:11:17 > 0:11:19What do you think about a woman
0:11:19 > 0:11:22potentially being in the White House?
0:11:22 > 0:11:24I think it's awful.
0:11:24 > 0:11:26I think it's awful on many levels.
0:11:27 > 0:11:29Not because women are worthless
0:11:29 > 0:11:31or because they don't make good decisions,
0:11:31 > 0:11:35it's just not their realm of expertise.
0:11:35 > 0:11:40Not that Hillary is just the most feminine woman out there,
0:11:40 > 0:11:42so probably doesn't even affect her that much,
0:11:42 > 0:11:45but you know the Bible says it's a curse
0:11:45 > 0:11:47to have women and children rule over you.
0:11:50 > 0:11:53Steven's church has been labelled a hate group
0:11:53 > 0:11:56by civil rights campaigners.
0:11:56 > 0:12:01His state, Arizona, is one of the most conservative in America,
0:12:01 > 0:12:04but I was surprised to hear about another Christian hate group
0:12:04 > 0:12:06in a far more liberal part of the country.
0:12:18 > 0:12:22On Hollywood Boulevard in Los Angeles, I met Ruben Israel.
0:12:23 > 0:12:25- Hi.- Hey, how are you doing?
0:12:25 > 0:12:28- Good, how about you? - Good, good.- Nice to meet you.
0:12:28 > 0:12:29Likewise.
0:12:29 > 0:12:33God is noting what's going on.
0:12:33 > 0:12:36He says he's part of a network of several hundred preachers
0:12:36 > 0:12:39across America who take their extremist message
0:12:39 > 0:12:41directly onto the streets.
0:12:42 > 0:12:44Read the Bible, everybody.
0:12:44 > 0:12:47Don't forget about Jesus Christ in your life.
0:12:47 > 0:12:50I thought street preaching would be more toned down
0:12:50 > 0:12:52than in Steven's church,
0:12:52 > 0:12:55where he's literally preaching to the converted.
0:12:55 > 0:12:57You might have a Muslim walking around here today
0:12:57 > 0:13:01that may bomb for Allah and take you out.
0:13:01 > 0:13:03I was wrong.
0:13:03 > 0:13:06I saw first-hand how American law allows anyone
0:13:06 > 0:13:11to express racial and religious hatred in any public space
0:13:11 > 0:13:14in astonishingly provocative ways.
0:13:14 > 0:13:15What do you know about Muslims?
0:13:15 > 0:13:19I know that your religion is a religion of hate.
0:13:19 > 0:13:21Your religion is killing yourselves.
0:13:21 > 0:13:24I'm sorry that you're ignorant, that you're blind...
0:13:24 > 0:13:26Is this why Muslims keep their wives quiet?
0:13:26 > 0:13:28Keep their wives...?
0:13:28 > 0:13:29Is this why Muslims do this?
0:13:29 > 0:13:32First of all, you have no right to talk...
0:13:32 > 0:13:35This is America, this isn't Iraq, buddy, this is America.
0:13:35 > 0:13:36You can leave any time.
0:13:36 > 0:13:38You're killing people right now.
0:13:38 > 0:13:42You're not doing it in America because this is America.
0:13:42 > 0:13:44This is America.
0:13:44 > 0:13:46In Africa, you're killing people.
0:13:46 > 0:13:50In all over the Middle East, your religion is killing people.
0:13:50 > 0:13:52Let's be very honest.
0:13:52 > 0:13:54- VOICE BREAKING:- Just shut up.
0:13:54 > 0:13:56Learn first, then talk, OK?!
0:13:56 > 0:13:58Know your history.
0:13:58 > 0:14:00I hope none of you have a pilot's license.
0:14:00 > 0:14:04I hope none of you Muslims have a pilot licence.
0:14:06 > 0:14:11Read the Bible, everybody, let's not get too concerned.
0:14:11 > 0:14:15We're not here to kill you, like most Muslims are.
0:14:15 > 0:14:18- Spread the word, brother. - Appreciate that, thank you.
0:14:18 > 0:14:19Thank you, appreciate it.
0:14:21 > 0:14:25A lot of the stuff that you were saying about the Prophet and Islam
0:14:25 > 0:14:27was really inflammatory.
0:14:27 > 0:14:31You know, most Muslims, most people who follow Islam, are very peaceful.
0:14:31 > 0:14:32I wouldn't say so.
0:14:32 > 0:14:35In fact we just had a shooting here in San Bernardino
0:14:35 > 0:14:37with a husband and wife.
0:14:37 > 0:14:40They appeared to be very peaceful.
0:14:40 > 0:14:42They lived very peaceful.
0:14:42 > 0:14:46But when Allah whispered into their ears, they did what they did.
0:14:46 > 0:14:51Got to get serious about God, who offers you eternal life.
0:14:51 > 0:14:55It's not very glamorous today to be a Christian.
0:14:55 > 0:14:57You're going to be hated if you're a real Christian,
0:14:57 > 0:15:04and so my concept is I can care less if I offend the entire city,
0:15:04 > 0:15:07state or country that I live in.
0:15:07 > 0:15:11My main core is not offending God,
0:15:11 > 0:15:14and in the process of me not offending God,
0:15:14 > 0:15:17if I offend you, so what?
0:15:17 > 0:15:19I'm not going to lose any sleep.
0:15:19 > 0:15:20I'm not going to miss a meal,
0:15:20 > 0:15:23cos everything inside me is more concerned
0:15:23 > 0:15:26about what God has to say than you.
0:15:26 > 0:15:31Thank God you live in America and not Islam country, not Iraq.
0:15:32 > 0:15:35In California, reported anti-Muslim hate crimes
0:15:35 > 0:15:38have more than doubled in the past year.
0:15:40 > 0:15:43Ruben is exploiting this rise of Islamophobia
0:15:43 > 0:15:46to promote his own fringe brand of Christianity.
0:15:49 > 0:15:52I wanted to know more about the man behind the megaphone.
0:15:54 > 0:15:57- Hi there.- Hey, come on in.
0:15:57 > 0:15:59So, this is the house.
0:15:59 > 0:16:03- This is my house.- Yeah. - This is where I live.
0:16:08 > 0:16:10How did this all start, Ruben?
0:16:10 > 0:16:13Often times people assume I'm a drug addict,
0:16:13 > 0:16:15I got saved in jail, I'm an ex-biker.
0:16:15 > 0:16:17Nothing is further from the truth.
0:16:17 > 0:16:20Don't do the drugs, never had the baggage of alcohol.
0:16:20 > 0:16:26At age 17... Actually October 22nd, 1979, that was the date,
0:16:26 > 0:16:29I cried out to God in my bedroom
0:16:29 > 0:16:33and read the Bible and then went out there and started to preach.
0:16:33 > 0:16:36How do you decide where to go?
0:16:36 > 0:16:37Well, if it's sin, you go.
0:16:37 > 0:16:39That's like asking a police officer,
0:16:39 > 0:16:42"How do you know there's going to be crime?" Well, you get a call.
0:16:42 > 0:16:43You know things.
0:16:45 > 0:16:49This is Ruben here, go ahead and replace what you need to do, my man.
0:16:51 > 0:16:54Just make it work like you did the others.
0:16:54 > 0:16:56Now when would that megaphone be ready?
0:16:58 > 0:17:00What a guy! Ken, you're the man.
0:17:03 > 0:17:05What was that about, Ruben?
0:17:05 > 0:17:09I have to get megaphones replaced quite often.
0:17:09 > 0:17:12Before we move on, what happened to that one specifically, though?
0:17:12 > 0:17:15Somebody grabbed it and threw it on the floor.
0:17:15 > 0:17:19Why did they smash it? What were you preaching about?
0:17:19 > 0:17:21I don't recall what it was, you know,
0:17:21 > 0:17:23I can't remember every conversation,
0:17:23 > 0:17:27but obviously we must have struck a nerve with somebody, so to speak.
0:17:28 > 0:17:30OK.
0:17:30 > 0:17:34Batman has Bat Cave, I'm going to show you Brother Reuben's Cave.
0:17:45 > 0:17:47OK, come on in.
0:17:48 > 0:17:53This is where I have all my stuff, my banners, poles, megaphones.
0:17:53 > 0:17:56You can see some of them are dented up by the bells.
0:17:56 > 0:17:58I have Bibles with me.
0:17:59 > 0:18:03These Bibles, they probably last about...
0:18:03 > 0:18:06I go through maybe two or three a year
0:18:06 > 0:18:09before the pages get ripped up or sometimes they catch on fire,
0:18:09 > 0:18:12somebody gets a lighter and tries to burn them.
0:18:12 > 0:18:14We have banners for all occasions.
0:18:16 > 0:18:20For example, here's one against Islam.
0:18:23 > 0:18:24Here's one...
0:18:26 > 0:18:27..for rebellious women.
0:18:28 > 0:18:31That's one you don't see very often.
0:18:32 > 0:18:36So I can make any banner, any size
0:18:36 > 0:18:40and have it sent to me instantly and have your name on it
0:18:40 > 0:18:44and your picture and stand out in front of your house if I need to.
0:18:47 > 0:18:49So that's my tool box there.
0:18:49 > 0:18:51Hope you enjoyed it.
0:18:59 > 0:19:02Back in Arizona, I was keen to talk to people
0:19:02 > 0:19:05who've been targeted by Christian hate groups.
0:19:10 > 0:19:14I caught up with Justin Owen, who runs Phoenix Gay Pride,
0:19:14 > 0:19:17as he made his final preparations for the festival.
0:19:18 > 0:19:21A lot of it's the challenges that we deal with with the discrimination.
0:19:21 > 0:19:26We have a very heavy transgender population here in Phoenix
0:19:26 > 0:19:27and that's where a lot of...
0:19:27 > 0:19:30We see our depression, we see our thoughts of people
0:19:30 > 0:19:32trying to hurt themselves or kill themselves
0:19:32 > 0:19:35with our youth and transgender community here,
0:19:35 > 0:19:36because everything is so conservative,
0:19:36 > 0:19:38because they're so oppressed.
0:19:43 > 0:19:47One of the things that makes the Phoenix Pride Festival phenomenal
0:19:47 > 0:19:49is it's always someone's first Pride.
0:19:49 > 0:19:52There's always that kid coming through the gate
0:19:52 > 0:19:55that it's the first time they've got to be their authentic self
0:19:55 > 0:19:57in possibly their lifetime,
0:19:57 > 0:20:00because they know when they come here...
0:20:00 > 0:20:02there is no discrimination, there is no hatred,
0:20:02 > 0:20:04once you're in the gates.
0:20:11 > 0:20:14When the day of Pride Festival arrived,
0:20:14 > 0:20:16so too did a familiar voice.
0:20:18 > 0:20:20Testing, one, two, bad homo.
0:20:22 > 0:20:24Just keep walking straight down.
0:20:25 > 0:20:28Testing one, two, three, Sodom and Gomorrah.
0:20:29 > 0:20:3350,000 people prepared to make their way to Pride.
0:20:34 > 0:20:37Ruben and his tiny band of followers
0:20:37 > 0:20:41set up stall outside the gates to preach at them.
0:20:41 > 0:20:43Testing, one, two, three.
0:20:44 > 0:20:46No homo sex.
0:20:50 > 0:20:53Photographer. What are you going to do with that photograph?
0:20:53 > 0:20:54I'm going to jerk off on it.
0:20:54 > 0:20:56I knew you would. Sick homo.
0:20:58 > 0:21:01Because of the American right to free speech,
0:21:01 > 0:21:05the Pride organisers had to allow Ruben and his men to protest.
0:21:07 > 0:21:10And it had to be somewhere they could be heard.
0:21:10 > 0:21:12You should repent right now.
0:21:12 > 0:21:14- OK.- You're going to burn in a lake of fire.
0:21:14 > 0:21:16- Do you lie?- I don't sin.
0:21:16 > 0:21:18I bet you do, sir.
0:21:18 > 0:21:19- I used to.- As a matter of fact.
0:21:19 > 0:21:24I'm a saint. You can call me Saint Aidan, sister sinner.
0:21:24 > 0:21:26SONG: Born This Way by Lady Gaga
0:21:36 > 0:21:37We just got engaged.
0:21:42 > 0:21:45Inside the gates, the party was taking off.
0:21:47 > 0:21:50- RUBEN:- Sodom and Gomorrah, pervert.
0:21:50 > 0:21:53But outside, the street preachers ramped up the abuse
0:21:53 > 0:21:54at everyone going in.
0:21:56 > 0:21:58You're on your way to hell.
0:21:58 > 0:22:01Disease, nasty, little freak, you are.
0:22:01 > 0:22:03Nasty. Nasty cocksucker.
0:22:03 > 0:22:06Filming it wasn't a pleasant experience.
0:22:07 > 0:22:09You need to repent of your sins.
0:22:09 > 0:22:13It's not OK to be gay, God hates homos.
0:22:13 > 0:22:15The Bible says.
0:22:15 > 0:22:19One of Reuben's followers brought his kids along, including a toddler.
0:22:22 > 0:22:26You son of a bitch! Oh, my God!
0:22:26 > 0:22:28People in the crowd noticed.
0:22:28 > 0:22:33You guys are so, so, so disgusting.
0:22:33 > 0:22:38Sodom and Gomorrah, people, does that ring a bell to you perverts?
0:22:38 > 0:22:40They're just hateful, cruel people.
0:22:40 > 0:22:44To bring kids into that and to teach another generation to be hateful,
0:22:44 > 0:22:46I just don't understand it.
0:22:46 > 0:22:48- It's sick.- It's disgusting.
0:22:48 > 0:22:50It breaks my heart.
0:22:50 > 0:22:54There's no reason for them to be like that.
0:22:54 > 0:22:58What they're doing right now is... It's full of hate.
0:22:58 > 0:23:01It's not doing any good.
0:23:01 > 0:23:06In fact, it's hurting the churches that actually are affirming
0:23:06 > 0:23:08and love the homosexual community.
0:23:08 > 0:23:11I've just never heard anything like that before.
0:23:11 > 0:23:13I mean, and I'm kind of nasty.
0:23:13 > 0:23:15It's pretty horrifying what they say to people.
0:23:15 > 0:23:18It's truly unbelievable, but...
0:23:18 > 0:23:20It's completely unrealistic.
0:23:20 > 0:23:21You take it with a grain of salt.
0:23:29 > 0:23:33Preaching hate can breed hate in return.
0:23:33 > 0:23:35ANSWER MACHINE BEEPS
0:23:35 > 0:23:39You sick, homophobic son of a bitch,
0:23:39 > 0:23:41talking about God striking down,
0:23:41 > 0:23:46he should strike down your church and burn it to a crisp.
0:23:46 > 0:23:50For Pastor Steven Anderson, abusive messages come with the territory.
0:23:52 > 0:23:54ANSWER MACHINE BEEPS
0:23:54 > 0:23:58You call yourself a preacher, calling homosexuals paedophiles.
0:23:58 > 0:24:00Paedophile is probably you, you sick freak.
0:24:03 > 0:24:06How many voice mails do you get?
0:24:06 > 0:24:08- Or hate mails?- Well, it depends.
0:24:08 > 0:24:13You know, there will be days where I get hundreds
0:24:13 > 0:24:15and then other days, I might just get a handful.
0:24:15 > 0:24:20There's a steady trickle of hate mail
0:24:20 > 0:24:22and hateful voicemails,
0:24:22 > 0:24:25but then whenever something is in the media or on TV or something,
0:24:25 > 0:24:29then there will just be a flood of few hundred in one day.
0:24:29 > 0:24:34So I can just play you voicemails just from one day.
0:24:36 > 0:24:38You fuck face.
0:24:38 > 0:24:41This one was a classic.
0:24:41 > 0:24:44This was the AR15.
0:24:44 > 0:24:46- I'm coming to get you. - "I'm coming to get you."
0:24:46 > 0:24:50..until we bring our AR15 in and kill you
0:24:50 > 0:24:55and kill all the people that believe in killing the LGBT.
0:24:55 > 0:24:58What would you say back to her, Steven?
0:24:58 > 0:25:01Well, enjoy Aids, I guess, right?
0:25:02 > 0:25:07I can't even count how many people have threatened
0:25:07 > 0:25:09to come and kick my whatever
0:25:09 > 0:25:13and beat me up and rape me and violently rape my children.
0:25:13 > 0:25:16I mean we got an e-mail recently where they went into great detail,
0:25:16 > 0:25:19how they're going to violently rape each child,
0:25:19 > 0:25:21they named the child and then say exactly
0:25:21 > 0:25:23what they're going to do to that child.
0:25:23 > 0:25:26I mean, just disgusting, vile things.
0:25:26 > 0:25:30Most people, if they were listening to messages like that,
0:25:30 > 0:25:32where they're threatening to come and hurt their children,
0:25:32 > 0:25:36it would make them think twice about what they were saying.
0:25:36 > 0:25:40Yeah, but I've been doing this for 11 years and nobody has ever come.
0:25:41 > 0:25:44But could you live with yourself if something did happen?
0:25:44 > 0:25:46Well, I wouldn't blame myself
0:25:46 > 0:25:49for what some other violent predator did, you know?
0:25:49 > 0:25:51I'm preaching the Bible, I'm doing what's right.
0:25:51 > 0:25:54If some violent predator came and did something to me or my family,
0:25:54 > 0:25:56that wouldn't be my fault.
0:25:56 > 0:25:59I'm willing to lose everything.
0:25:59 > 0:26:00I'm willing to give up everything.
0:26:00 > 0:26:02I will never stop.
0:26:02 > 0:26:03I don't care what the cost is.
0:26:03 > 0:26:06I will never stop preaching the Bible.
0:26:14 > 0:26:18You guys can come inside, but you can't screech.
0:26:18 > 0:26:23The next time I saw Steven's wife Susannah, she had baby number nine.
0:26:23 > 0:26:25Do think you're going to have another baby, another kid?
0:26:25 > 0:26:28I think so, I'm only 37.
0:26:28 > 0:26:30We don't do anything to stop it,
0:26:30 > 0:26:33so hopefully I've got a few more years in me, right?
0:26:39 > 0:26:41I wondered if Steven's children
0:26:41 > 0:26:44knew about the threats their dad received.
0:26:48 > 0:26:50Do you guys ever get scared that something might happen,
0:26:50 > 0:26:52you know, all these things that...?
0:26:52 > 0:26:56Well, the Bible says that we have an army of angels surrounding us
0:26:56 > 0:26:58and protecting us, so I'm not scared.
0:26:58 > 0:27:01My dad gets all this, but I don't really care.
0:27:04 > 0:27:07- What about you, Miriam?- Um...
0:27:07 > 0:27:10Sometimes I do, but not usually.
0:27:10 > 0:27:12Usually I just think...
0:27:21 > 0:27:22Hanging out with Steven,
0:27:22 > 0:27:27it became clear that not all of his beliefs are from the Bible.
0:27:27 > 0:27:30He's part of a small minority of Americans
0:27:30 > 0:27:34who believe the Nazi atrocities against Jews during World War II
0:27:34 > 0:27:36have been exaggerated.
0:27:37 > 0:27:39He also has controversial beliefs
0:27:39 > 0:27:43about who was behind the 9/11 terrorist attacks.
0:27:43 > 0:27:46I don't even believe the official version on 9/11.
0:27:46 > 0:27:49I believe that 9/11 was actually carried out by our own government.
0:27:51 > 0:27:54But why would the American government
0:27:54 > 0:27:55kill thousands of its own people?
0:27:55 > 0:28:00I mean, it's so silly that you even have to ask that question,
0:28:00 > 0:28:04because the whole point of 9/11 is that it's the justification
0:28:04 > 0:28:05for the police state,
0:28:05 > 0:28:08it's the justification for tripling the size of FBI spending
0:28:08 > 0:28:10and the NSA.
0:28:10 > 0:28:12It's the justification for invading two countries.
0:28:12 > 0:28:14But think of what they've got to lose.
0:28:14 > 0:28:20If it came out that 9/11 was, you know, done by the government,
0:28:20 > 0:28:21that would bring down America,
0:28:21 > 0:28:23and also the lie is so huge
0:28:23 > 0:28:26there must have been so many people involved with it,
0:28:26 > 0:28:28how could it possibly still be a secret?
0:28:28 > 0:28:30It's not a secret. Everybody knows about it.
0:28:30 > 0:28:32If you go to New York and do a poll
0:28:32 > 0:28:36on how many people believe the official version on 9/11,
0:28:36 > 0:28:40you'll find there are huge segments of the population
0:28:40 > 0:28:42that say they don't believe it.
0:28:48 > 0:28:50During my time in America,
0:28:50 > 0:28:54the battle for the next presidency grew increasingly divisive.
0:28:56 > 0:29:00One group in particular became a target for anger.
0:29:00 > 0:29:05Donald J Trump is calling for a total and complete shutdown
0:29:05 > 0:29:08of Muslims entering the United States.
0:29:08 > 0:29:11We will make America great again.
0:29:11 > 0:29:14God bless you and good night.
0:29:14 > 0:29:16CHEERING
0:29:25 > 0:29:27I travelled to Cleveland, Ohio,
0:29:27 > 0:29:29where Donald Trump was due to be announced
0:29:29 > 0:29:32as the official Republican candidate for president.
0:29:39 > 0:29:43Nearly 20 men from Ruben's network of street preachers
0:29:43 > 0:29:45came from across America.
0:29:46 > 0:29:51Green, gay, zombie, cannabis smokers or something.
0:29:51 > 0:29:55Some said Trump's views were not extreme enough for them,
0:29:55 > 0:29:59but all were here to preach against anti-Trump protesters,
0:29:59 > 0:30:03sinners who needed saving from their liberal politics.
0:30:04 > 0:30:06I've met them before.
0:30:06 > 0:30:08- My family, y'all filmed my family. - Yes.
0:30:08 > 0:30:11We preached the Phoenix homo rally.
0:30:11 > 0:30:14I recognised Aidan from Phoenix Pride in the group.
0:30:17 > 0:30:19You've brought gas masks along. Why have you brought them?
0:30:19 > 0:30:22Oh, because they're probably going to gas the crowds,
0:30:22 > 0:30:24that's what the cops have done many times.
0:30:26 > 0:30:27Here's one more thing we brought.
0:30:30 > 0:30:32I've never brought it on a preach before,
0:30:32 > 0:30:35but since these cops are getting shot left and right,
0:30:35 > 0:30:40this is a hard-core 30lb bulletproof vest.
0:30:40 > 0:30:42Do you really think you're going to need that?
0:30:42 > 0:30:46If not, it's a good work-out, it's extra cardio for the day.
0:30:46 > 0:30:47Feel how heavy it is.
0:30:47 > 0:30:49- Yeah, that's...- Yeah.- OK.
0:30:49 > 0:30:51So it's extra work-out, so I look at the positive.
0:30:53 > 0:30:57I sensed a distinct feeling of paranoia coming from the men.
0:30:59 > 0:31:03Mark, a leader of the group, even wore army fatigues.
0:31:05 > 0:31:08Why are you wearing, like, kind of military clothes?
0:31:08 > 0:31:10Because it scares the hell out of them.
0:31:10 > 0:31:12- Were you in the military?- No.- No.
0:31:14 > 0:31:18Aidan had brought a much more offensive prop.
0:31:18 > 0:31:20So what are you going to do with the bacon?
0:31:20 > 0:31:23Well, not until I get a really mad Muslim coming up
0:31:23 > 0:31:25I'm going to say, "I'm actually starting to fear for my life
0:31:25 > 0:31:29"from this Muslim, so I'm going to have to ward him off with my bacon."
0:31:32 > 0:31:35The group set off for the centre of Cleveland
0:31:35 > 0:31:37in search of anti-Trump protesters.
0:31:39 > 0:31:43Do you realise that who you are sitting with
0:31:43 > 0:31:45right now in his vehicle, Hannah,
0:31:45 > 0:31:49is actually a remnant that God has saved up
0:31:49 > 0:31:52to correct the nation that has forgotten God?
0:31:52 > 0:31:56And you're talking about what, 12, 15 others?
0:31:56 > 0:31:59That's it. So I say to those in the UK,
0:31:59 > 0:32:03I know there's a remnant somewhere hiding in those church pews,
0:32:03 > 0:32:06you need to come out from behind that pulpit
0:32:06 > 0:32:08and get out in the street and get in the battle,
0:32:08 > 0:32:11because it's coming and you'd better get ready.
0:32:16 > 0:32:17- Man, start preaching, bro.- Yeah.
0:32:19 > 0:32:23Your sin is the reason you're going to hell.
0:32:23 > 0:32:26Your sin is the reason God is angry.
0:32:26 > 0:32:28The Bible says...
0:32:28 > 0:32:32It was soon clear the preachers were willing to shout at anyone
0:32:32 > 0:32:36who didn't appear to fit their model of Christian behaviour.
0:32:36 > 0:32:41Hey, you drunk sinner, repent. Drunks, go to hell.
0:32:41 > 0:32:43Put those beers down and pick up a Bible.
0:32:46 > 0:32:49You're going to burn, sinner. You'd better repent.
0:32:49 > 0:32:50Life eternal.
0:32:53 > 0:32:56They set up camp in a public square,
0:32:56 > 0:32:59close to where Trump himself was about to go on stage.
0:33:00 > 0:33:03First they targeted gay men.
0:33:10 > 0:33:15Then protesters from Black Lives Matter arrived,
0:33:15 > 0:33:18a group which campaigns about police killings of black people.
0:33:35 > 0:33:39- CHANTING:- Black lives matter! Black lives matter!
0:33:42 > 0:33:44As the day went on,
0:33:44 > 0:33:48the street preachers' message seemed increasingly incoherent and chaotic.
0:33:59 > 0:34:02After a couple of hours, only the police remained,
0:34:02 > 0:34:05so the preachers left.
0:34:05 > 0:34:06Walk that way.
0:34:07 > 0:34:09Better your King Jesus do.
0:34:11 > 0:34:14The men say their network has grown bigger in recent years.
0:34:16 > 0:34:18But I wondered if they really expected
0:34:18 > 0:34:20to attract new converts here.
0:34:21 > 0:34:25God is wanting to save sinners' souls.
0:34:25 > 0:34:28My life was changed and it wasn't willpower,
0:34:28 > 0:34:32I used to love getting high, I used to love drinking alcohol.
0:34:32 > 0:34:36I used to love having sex before marriage, yeah.
0:34:36 > 0:34:39Turn or burn, guys, turn or burn.
0:34:39 > 0:34:41What are you going to do, beat me up? I thought love wins.
0:34:41 > 0:34:42- Burn what?- I thought love wins.
0:34:44 > 0:34:45I thought love wins.
0:34:48 > 0:34:50Stop being a fudge packer.
0:34:51 > 0:34:54Does it ever cross your mind that the way that you preach...?
0:34:54 > 0:34:56I do two ways, you're just seeing one way.
0:34:56 > 0:34:58But it puts people off.
0:34:58 > 0:35:02I know, Romans chapter... Well, here's the... Good question.
0:35:02 > 0:35:04You know a lot of Christians don't understand
0:35:04 > 0:35:05confrontational evangelism
0:35:05 > 0:35:08because they don't really understand the nature of Jesus Christ.
0:35:08 > 0:35:11He got mad and he never sinned.
0:35:11 > 0:35:13"Be angry and sin not," the Bible says.
0:35:13 > 0:35:17But those guys, I'm pretty sure those guys that you just spoke to
0:35:17 > 0:35:20are not going to go and read the Bible.
0:35:20 > 0:35:23When they get the fear of God, they will read the Bible.
0:35:23 > 0:35:26So we've got to help bring the fear of God into them.
0:35:26 > 0:35:28Yeah.
0:35:29 > 0:35:31It's called tough love.
0:35:39 > 0:35:41The vast majority of American Christians
0:35:41 > 0:35:44are uncomfortable with the extreme message of the groups
0:35:44 > 0:35:45I spent time with.
0:35:47 > 0:35:50But these preachers are cementing and increasing links
0:35:50 > 0:35:52with like-minded people across the country.
0:35:56 > 0:36:00Verity Baptist Church, Sacramento, California.
0:36:00 > 0:36:02I followed Pastor Steven Anderson
0:36:02 > 0:36:06to a so-called red-hot preaching conference.
0:36:06 > 0:36:08Ten minutes to freedom.
0:36:08 > 0:36:09Freedom from what?
0:36:10 > 0:36:13Freedom from you, Hannah.
0:36:13 > 0:36:16From your camera. No, just kidding.
0:36:16 > 0:36:18- Pastor Anderson. - Hey, how are you doing?
0:36:18 > 0:36:19- Welcome, good to see you.- All right.
0:36:19 > 0:36:22Steven went in through the back door.
0:36:22 > 0:36:24HORN BEEPS
0:36:24 > 0:36:29Out the front, protesters against the conference started to arrive.
0:36:29 > 0:36:32Many were from the LGBT community.
0:36:33 > 0:36:36Another, Bish Roy, was a devout Christian.
0:36:37 > 0:36:40I'm here today to change the hearts of all of these kids
0:36:40 > 0:36:42within the church that are stuck
0:36:42 > 0:36:46and even the hearts of those adults that are stuck there,
0:36:46 > 0:36:49that just are blinded by the pastor,
0:36:49 > 0:36:54and I also do hope to change the minds of a lot of the protesters
0:36:54 > 0:36:56and people looking at this from the outside,
0:36:56 > 0:36:59that think that this is Christianity, because it's not.
0:36:59 > 0:37:02Christianity is a truly a loving religion.
0:37:02 > 0:37:06It's meant to love everybody, regardless of who and what they are.
0:37:06 > 0:37:08The point of Christianity is to love.
0:37:11 > 0:37:15Inside, crowds gathered for the star attraction,
0:37:15 > 0:37:17Steven Anderson.
0:37:17 > 0:37:18Hey, what's up?
0:37:18 > 0:37:20And he was being treated like a celebrity.
0:37:20 > 0:37:24Hey, what's up, man? You got married?
0:37:24 > 0:37:26The event attracted journalists.
0:37:28 > 0:37:31Guys, we've got live streaming, for Facebook.
0:37:31 > 0:37:34Steven prepared to aim his fire at them.
0:37:36 > 0:37:39You know what, these people from the media here.
0:37:39 > 0:37:42I mean, unless they turn over a new leaf and start telling the truth,
0:37:42 > 0:37:44which probably isn't very likely,
0:37:44 > 0:37:46but these bozos from the media over here,
0:37:46 > 0:37:50they are going to show all the love wins and love conquers hate,
0:37:50 > 0:37:55they won't show you how God-fearing family men and women
0:37:55 > 0:37:56walk in this church,
0:37:56 > 0:37:58and women are called a slut and a whore
0:37:58 > 0:38:01and they've never even seen these women in their life,
0:38:01 > 0:38:05because they'd just rail and hate and spew out all their filth
0:38:05 > 0:38:07and they're disgusting,
0:38:07 > 0:38:10but you won't show that on the media, will you?
0:38:10 > 0:38:13No, you'll show all the little, pretty, little sodomites
0:38:13 > 0:38:15and they all love each other.
0:38:20 > 0:38:21Hey, by the way...
0:38:23 > 0:38:26I mean, I didn't choose that, hey, in the end-times
0:38:26 > 0:38:28before the second coming of Christ,
0:38:28 > 0:38:30we are going to have to be ripping face
0:38:30 > 0:38:32about bunch of perverts and homos
0:38:32 > 0:38:35and that's going to be the big issue in America
0:38:35 > 0:38:38that everybody talks about every single day in America -
0:38:38 > 0:38:39I didn't choose this fight.
0:38:39 > 0:38:42This fight has come to us. And you know what I say?
0:38:42 > 0:38:44Bring it on!
0:38:44 > 0:38:48Hey, look, whatever fight the devil wants to bring me, bring it on.
0:38:53 > 0:38:57After the service, I caught up with Steven outside.
0:38:57 > 0:39:00He seemed pleased with himself.
0:39:00 > 0:39:03Everything is good. Just got a nice gift, so...
0:39:06 > 0:39:09I mean, who doesn't want to get an AR15 as a gift?
0:39:09 > 0:39:10That's a cool gift, right?
0:39:10 > 0:39:14- Seriously, was it an AR15?- Yes, I just got an AR15 as a gift, yeah.
0:39:15 > 0:39:18That's the gift that keeps on giving.
0:39:20 > 0:39:23Fresh from receiving his new assault rifle,
0:39:23 > 0:39:26Steven spotted the few remaining protesters.
0:39:26 > 0:39:28Did you go say hi to your buddies over here yet,
0:39:28 > 0:39:31or no, or did you just ignore them, or what?
0:39:31 > 0:39:32Those guys?
0:39:32 > 0:39:34We call the one guy Aunt Jemima, the one with the hair.
0:39:34 > 0:39:35Al coined the term.
0:39:37 > 0:39:38This was the first time
0:39:38 > 0:39:42I'd seen Steven confront his detractors face-to-face.
0:39:42 > 0:39:44What's up, guys?
0:39:44 > 0:39:46There we go, Mr Anderson, there we go.
0:39:46 > 0:39:48- In the flesh.- There we go. In the flesh, amazing.
0:39:48 > 0:39:50Pastor Anderson, here I am.
0:39:50 > 0:39:53Are you guys homos, or just sympathisers?
0:39:53 > 0:39:57No, I'm a Bible-believing Christian, that's the difference.
0:39:57 > 0:39:59For the Lord, or are you for the devil?
0:39:59 > 0:40:02- I'm for the Lord.- You're for the Lord, you think you're for the Lord.
0:40:02 > 0:40:04No, I know I'm for the Lord.
0:40:04 > 0:40:07The Lord hates all workers of iniquity, open the Bible.
0:40:07 > 0:40:10Psalm 55, Psalm 11.
0:40:10 > 0:40:13All of you guys pop out because you say I'm saved,
0:40:13 > 0:40:16so whatever you do when you beat your wife, when you beat your kids,
0:40:16 > 0:40:18when you do what you want and sin,
0:40:18 > 0:40:20it's OK because you're already saved.
0:40:20 > 0:40:21That's why you're just a copout.
0:40:21 > 0:40:24You know what? It's a sin not to beat your kids.
0:40:24 > 0:40:26- It's a sin not to beat your kids. - It's a sin not to beat your kids?!
0:40:26 > 0:40:28The Bible says thou shalt beat.
0:40:28 > 0:40:29- Did Jesus Christ beat a kid? - Thou shalt beat.
0:40:29 > 0:40:31- Did Jesus Christ...? - He didn't have kids.
0:40:31 > 0:40:34The Bible says thou shalt beat.
0:40:36 > 0:40:38I'm done listening to...
0:40:38 > 0:40:40LAUGHTER AND APPLAUSE
0:40:40 > 0:40:43It's OK, it's OK, you have a bunch of halfwits,
0:40:43 > 0:40:45halfwits laughing with you.
0:40:45 > 0:40:47See you later, man bun.
0:40:47 > 0:40:49You don't know your Bible.
0:40:49 > 0:40:5233:11 read it. It's OK, it's OK, it's OK.
0:40:52 > 0:40:55You guys are in denial, you're just trying to have a copout.
0:40:55 > 0:40:58Trust me, you're far from saved, you're far from saved.
0:40:58 > 0:41:01Yeah, I went and fraternised with them.
0:41:01 > 0:41:02Yeah, you missed it.
0:41:13 > 0:41:16What struck me about my time with both hate groups
0:41:16 > 0:41:19was how they positively thrived on negative reactions
0:41:19 > 0:41:20from the rest of society.
0:41:24 > 0:41:28They feel their views are under threat.
0:41:28 > 0:41:31And the more hated or persecuted they feel,
0:41:31 > 0:41:33the stronger their convictions grow.
0:41:36 > 0:41:39And the larger their networks seem to grow too.
0:41:40 > 0:41:44Steven is due to open three new churches this year.
0:41:47 > 0:41:51Do you like the power of being a pastor?
0:41:51 > 0:41:54I definitely like the power to influence masses of people.
0:41:54 > 0:41:58Absolutely. I like the power to be able to speak
0:41:58 > 0:42:01and thousands of people hear me within 24 hours,
0:42:01 > 0:42:03so, yeah, I do like that.
0:42:03 > 0:42:05You know, because I want to...
0:42:07 > 0:42:09..you know, I want to do something big with my life.