0:00:13 > 0:00:16Chaplains are modern-day disciples.
0:00:16 > 0:00:19- Ta-daa!- Yaaay!
0:00:20 > 0:00:22Who would like chopsticks?
0:00:22 > 0:00:23Excuse me, are you Jewish?
0:00:23 > 0:00:25Have you got any Jewish pals here?
0:00:25 > 0:00:26Salaam alaikum.
0:00:26 > 0:00:29They take the word of God out of the church
0:00:29 > 0:00:31and into the places we work and play.
0:00:31 > 0:00:36When the wheels fall off, that's when people pray.
0:00:37 > 0:00:41They're employed in our hospitals and universities,
0:00:41 > 0:00:44at the football ground, on the street.
0:00:44 > 0:00:51Tonight, keeping alive the memories of children who will never be forgotten.
0:00:51 > 0:00:54We're all here for the same reason, every single one of us.
0:00:54 > 0:00:57So, we know we're not on our own.
0:00:57 > 0:00:59And the chaplain praying for an Everton win.
0:00:59 > 0:01:02The football's got something to do with the church,
0:01:02 > 0:01:05and above all, the church and religion has something to do with football.
0:01:07 > 0:01:09We're following chaplains in the city of Liverpool,
0:01:09 > 0:01:13the work they do and the people's lives they touch.
0:01:34 > 0:01:37Goodison Park is the home of top football club, Everton.
0:01:39 > 0:01:42Harry Ross, a retired vicar and passionate Evertonian,
0:01:42 > 0:01:45is the club's chaplain.
0:01:49 > 0:01:52For Harry, this place is more than just a football ground.
0:01:53 > 0:01:56Goodison Park is Harry's church.
0:02:00 > 0:02:05Well, of course, once you've become a supporter of any club,
0:02:05 > 0:02:07it's a marvellous feeling.
0:02:07 > 0:02:09And then to be invited to become chaplain to that club,
0:02:09 > 0:02:13well, of course, it fulfils all your hopes and dreams,
0:02:13 > 0:02:17because you get closer to the people that are working here,
0:02:17 > 0:02:19you get close to the fans, because you know
0:02:19 > 0:02:22what they're going through, you know what they're thinking,
0:02:22 > 0:02:25you know what they're feeling, and it's an empathy.
0:02:27 > 0:02:30Thousands of Blues supporters are arriving for today's match.
0:02:34 > 0:02:39Harry is there to meet and greet his congregation of fellow fans.
0:02:39 > 0:02:40All right?
0:02:40 > 0:02:44'Everything about me is Blue, except my language, of course.'
0:02:44 > 0:02:45How are you? All right?
0:02:45 > 0:02:49Harry is well known amongst the fans,
0:02:49 > 0:02:53spreading the word of God through his love of the game.
0:02:53 > 0:02:55The church and the football ground
0:02:55 > 0:02:58have blended in together and we've shown
0:02:58 > 0:03:01that they are part and parcel of life
0:03:01 > 0:03:03and that the football's got something to do with the church,
0:03:03 > 0:03:07and above all, the church and religion has something to do with the football.
0:03:24 > 0:03:28Chaplains are often called on to help people through bereavement.
0:03:28 > 0:03:30At Alder Hey Children's Hospital,
0:03:30 > 0:03:33supporting families who've lost children
0:03:33 > 0:03:36is an important part of the chaplain's role.
0:03:36 > 0:03:39The music we're changing as well, cos again,
0:03:39 > 0:03:42we've had Precious Child for the last two years,
0:03:42 > 0:03:45so this is Leona Lewis singing Footprints In The Sand.
0:03:45 > 0:03:46I'll do both of them, then.
0:03:46 > 0:03:51The children who didn't make it through treatment are never forgotten here.
0:03:51 > 0:03:55Today, chaplains Dave Williams and Caroline Ferguson
0:03:55 > 0:03:58are planning the annual remembrance service.
0:03:58 > 0:04:00Then the final hymn, we're sticking with,
0:04:00 > 0:04:02I think, One More Step Along The Road I Go,
0:04:02 > 0:04:05- cos it's a good hymn of hope and looking to the future.- Yes, it is.
0:04:17 > 0:04:20Hayley Jones is one of the bereaved parents who stayed in touch
0:04:20 > 0:04:22with Alder Hey's chaplains.
0:04:22 > 0:04:24Her son, Ellis, was born with a heart defect,
0:04:24 > 0:04:28and died at the hospital when he was ten months old.
0:04:29 > 0:04:31I know that I'm close to him here.
0:04:33 > 0:04:35Very special place.
0:04:37 > 0:04:40We call it Ellis's little garden,
0:04:40 > 0:04:42cos I don't like the word "cemetery".
0:04:45 > 0:04:48We always make sure it's very pretty and bright.
0:04:50 > 0:04:53Cos he liked bright colours.
0:04:53 > 0:04:56And this is from Alder Hey.
0:04:56 > 0:04:58It's what he used to play with.
0:04:59 > 0:05:02I remember when he first passed away.
0:05:03 > 0:05:09I wanted to have a bed at the side of him so he wouldn't be on his own.
0:05:09 > 0:05:13Then we put these lights up because he always had a light on at home.
0:05:13 > 0:05:16And I didn't want him being in the dark.
0:05:25 > 0:05:27Ellis actually came through an operation
0:05:27 > 0:05:30which I don't think had ever been done on one so small before,
0:05:30 > 0:05:32and it was an absolute miracle.
0:05:32 > 0:05:35And he was actually due to be discharged on,
0:05:35 > 0:05:38I think, the Wednesday, and on Saturday morning he just died.
0:05:38 > 0:05:41And they were obviously devastated, we all were,
0:05:41 > 0:05:44but I can't imagine what it was like for them.
0:05:44 > 0:05:49And we'd become, I think, close, as family and friends,
0:05:49 > 0:05:53and I think that was why they asked me to take Ellis's funeral,
0:05:53 > 0:05:55which was a huge privilege.
0:05:55 > 0:05:58And I took that over in Glossop for them
0:05:58 > 0:06:01and met all the family there and got to know them really well,
0:06:01 > 0:06:04and then supported them during the time after,
0:06:04 > 0:06:06in that difficult time.
0:06:17 > 0:06:23You never expect, as a parent, to have to go through the pain
0:06:23 > 0:06:25and seeing your child fight for his life.
0:06:27 > 0:06:30What we had to see Ellis go through.
0:06:30 > 0:06:33Ellis had six cardiac arrests, and we seen all six of them.
0:06:34 > 0:06:39And it still haunts us to this day. It's like noises.
0:06:39 > 0:06:42You can still hear the noise - well, I can -
0:06:42 > 0:06:46from the machine that goes off when they're going into an arrest.
0:06:48 > 0:06:52I'll never forget on the Friday, after he'd had his arrest,
0:06:52 > 0:06:54he was on that much sedation,
0:06:54 > 0:06:57and I remember the nurses saying he wouldn't wake up.
0:06:57 > 0:06:59And I remember he woke up, didn't he?
0:06:59 > 0:07:02And he grabbed my hand.
0:07:02 > 0:07:06And he pulled it to his chest, and that was last time...
0:07:07 > 0:07:10..the last time he woke up, wasn't it?
0:07:10 > 0:07:13And then he closed his eyes.
0:07:15 > 0:07:17It was the last time we seen him awake.
0:07:23 > 0:07:27The hardest decision I've ever had to make was...
0:07:27 > 0:07:30when they were trying to resuscitate him the last time.
0:07:32 > 0:07:35Hayley couldn't, but they had to have one of us to agree to stop.
0:07:37 > 0:07:40But then it was effectively ending his life,
0:07:40 > 0:07:42and for a while...
0:07:42 > 0:07:47I thought...I felt guilty, cos I ended his life.
0:07:47 > 0:07:52But there was nothing he could do. to pull himself round.
0:07:52 > 0:07:57It was just the worse day of our life, wasn't it?
0:07:58 > 0:08:00The worst day, the worst...
0:08:00 > 0:08:05some of the worst sights that no-one should ever have to see.
0:08:14 > 0:08:19Chris and Hayley have suffered more than their fair share of tragedy.
0:08:19 > 0:08:23They nearly lost their second son, Harley, after he caught meningitis.
0:08:23 > 0:08:25It left him with disabilities.
0:08:26 > 0:08:29Now Hayley's pregnant again,
0:08:29 > 0:08:33but there's a chance the new baby will be born with heart problems.
0:08:33 > 0:08:35The nightmare, it's just horrible,
0:08:35 > 0:08:39that I can't go through losing another child to a heart condition.
0:08:39 > 0:08:43And nobody can say for sure that it isn't going to happen again,
0:08:43 > 0:08:46so in my mind, it's going to happen again.
0:08:46 > 0:08:48And until somebody tells me different,
0:08:48 > 0:08:51I will keep thinking that, that it's going to happen again.
0:08:52 > 0:08:54In a week's time, a special scan
0:08:54 > 0:08:58will reveal what the future holds for their unborn child.
0:08:58 > 0:09:01If there is going to be a problem...
0:09:04 > 0:09:08I don't know how life could be so cruel, but hopefully...
0:09:10 > 0:09:14..it'll be third time lucky kind of thing,
0:09:14 > 0:09:18that we'll have a normal, healthy baby from day one
0:09:18 > 0:09:21and it will go from strength to strength.
0:09:37 > 0:09:41Harry's in touch with over 200 former team members
0:09:41 > 0:09:43in and around the city.
0:09:43 > 0:09:47Today, he's visiting a Merseyside footballing icon.
0:09:48 > 0:09:51Well, we're going over to see Dave Hickson.
0:09:51 > 0:09:54Dave Hickson is a massive legend,
0:09:54 > 0:09:58not just at Everton but of the whole of Merseyside.
0:09:59 > 0:10:04His great boast is that he would break every bone in his body
0:10:04 > 0:10:07for any team that he played for, but he'd die for Everton.
0:10:08 > 0:10:10'As a football chaplain,
0:10:10 > 0:10:14'if you are a football supporter as well, you can bring
0:10:14 > 0:10:19'the Christian message into what you're doing just by being yourself
0:10:19 > 0:10:22'and letting Christ shine through you.'
0:10:22 > 0:10:24- How are you, OK?- Yes, thank you.
0:10:24 > 0:10:26Great to see you, Dave.
0:10:26 > 0:10:3082-year-old Dave Hickson was a soccer superstar in the '50s,
0:10:30 > 0:10:36a time when a top footballer's wage was just £20 a week.
0:10:39 > 0:10:43This, then, is our forecast of the 1955 Wembley finalists.
0:10:46 > 0:10:49'Widely fancied, along with Preston, for soccer showpiece
0:10:49 > 0:10:51'are the men of Merseyside, Everton.
0:10:51 > 0:10:56'Key man behind their attack is fair-haired centre forward, Dave Hickson.
0:10:56 > 0:10:59'For months now he has been hitting the goals and the headlines.'
0:11:00 > 0:11:02What's the best goal you've ever scored?
0:11:03 > 0:11:06Oh, dear me, that's going back.
0:11:06 > 0:11:12There was a gale force wind blowing from your church to the corner flag.
0:11:12 > 0:11:16And I took it and hit it towards where your church is.
0:11:16 > 0:11:21- Yeah.- And the wind blew it back, and I headed it in.
0:11:21 > 0:11:26- From there, off my own... - Off your own corner?- Yeah.- Amazing.
0:11:26 > 0:11:28- It was that windy.- Yeah.
0:11:28 > 0:11:31'For Dave Hickson of the goal scorching feet
0:11:31 > 0:11:33'is the man who can help take Everton to that peak
0:11:33 > 0:11:36'of the soccer season - the Cup Final.'
0:11:37 > 0:11:40How did you feel when you had to hang your boots up?
0:11:40 > 0:11:43Terrible, really.
0:11:44 > 0:11:48In fact, I didn't, did I? I carried on and on and on till I was 77.
0:11:48 > 0:11:49I know.
0:11:51 > 0:11:53- OK, Dave. - Yeah, thanks for coming, Harry.
0:11:53 > 0:11:55- Look after yourself, Dave. - Thanks very much.
0:11:55 > 0:11:56- Thanks for everything.- OK.
0:11:56 > 0:11:59And you give me a shout if there's anything we can do,
0:11:59 > 0:12:02- and I'll see you at the match. - I'll see you at the match.
0:12:02 > 0:12:05'You're here as a chaplain to be there, to listen, to help,'
0:12:05 > 0:12:09and to be a safety net for anyone who needs you, anyone.
0:12:09 > 0:12:13Whether they're Christians, non-Christians, don't care,
0:12:13 > 0:12:15don't understand, but you're there.
0:12:15 > 0:12:19And because you're a football supporter, they trust you.
0:12:19 > 0:12:23When I had a heart attack, I couldn't help for anything.
0:12:23 > 0:12:25He done everything for me, you know?
0:12:26 > 0:12:32Went up to the hospital, Bill took me to the ambulance,
0:12:32 > 0:12:38and Harry was at the hospital when I was there, when I got there, you know?
0:12:38 > 0:12:42And every day he's come, you know, bar when he was busy, you know.
0:12:42 > 0:12:44He's come to see me.
0:12:45 > 0:12:47Unbelievable.
0:12:56 > 0:13:01Hayley and Chris have travelled to St Mary's Hospital in Manchester.
0:13:01 > 0:13:04Today, a special scan will show
0:13:04 > 0:13:08whether their unborn child has inherited a heart defect.
0:13:08 > 0:13:11The same one that took away the life of their first.
0:13:13 > 0:13:16Hayley's parents have come along to give them support.
0:13:17 > 0:13:20Alder Hey heart specialist Dr Gordon Gladman
0:13:20 > 0:13:23will carry out the scan.
0:13:23 > 0:13:26So, in terms of Hayley with her foetus,
0:13:26 > 0:13:28we'll be looking purely for, are there four parts to the heart,
0:13:28 > 0:13:30the blood vessels coming out from the heart,
0:13:30 > 0:13:33the blood vessels going into the heart,
0:13:33 > 0:13:35any evidence of leaky valves, the function of the heart,
0:13:35 > 0:13:38generally a checklist, making sure that everything
0:13:38 > 0:13:39seems OK with baby's heart.
0:13:39 > 0:13:42So, fingers crossed it's all going to be OK.
0:13:44 > 0:13:46Back at Alder Hey hospital,
0:13:46 > 0:13:50Chaplain Dave Williams is praying for good news.
0:13:50 > 0:13:53I just don't know how they have coped, really.
0:13:53 > 0:13:56I think they're wonderful, they're a wonderful family, and they're a close family.
0:13:57 > 0:14:01I suppose, in some ways, they've been through so much sadness
0:14:01 > 0:14:05it'll be lovely to have that joy, to be able to enjoy this little one.
0:14:05 > 0:14:07We just pray that he'll be well and strong.
0:14:20 > 0:14:24On Merseyside, football is like a religion.
0:14:25 > 0:14:29Everton chaplain Harry Ross is often asked to bury the ashes
0:14:29 > 0:14:32of deceased fans close to the hallowed turf.
0:14:33 > 0:14:37The first question you get in this city is, "Who do you support?"
0:14:37 > 0:14:40And that, of course, is either Everton or Liverpool.
0:14:40 > 0:14:45And it becomes so much part of their life that, when they've passed on,
0:14:45 > 0:14:51it's right that they think, "Let's continue to be associated with the club."
0:14:51 > 0:14:55Fans have had their favourite places where they used to stand
0:14:55 > 0:14:59and the ashes have gone in as near to that as we can possibly put them.
0:15:05 > 0:15:09Today, Harry's meeting Mark Melville,
0:15:09 > 0:15:12the son of a lifelong Blues supporter.
0:15:12 > 0:15:16He wants Goodison Park to be his father's final resting place.
0:15:18 > 0:15:23- Hi. Mark. Nice to meet you.- Yes. - Sorry it's such circumstances.
0:15:23 > 0:15:26Sorry to hear about your dad.
0:15:26 > 0:15:31Mark's father, Tony, died two months ago at the age of 74.
0:15:31 > 0:15:36This is where he enjoyed some of the best days of his life.
0:15:36 > 0:15:38My dad used to put me over the turnstile.
0:15:38 > 0:15:41There's many over the turnstile over the years.
0:15:41 > 0:15:44This was the Paddock where we used to stand, round about here.
0:15:44 > 0:15:46- It must bring back memories.- Yeah.
0:15:46 > 0:15:49Awe-inspiring, you know. Do you think I'll get into trouble
0:15:49 > 0:15:52- if I just touch the pitch? - No, go on, you're all right.
0:15:55 > 0:15:56Yeah.
0:15:56 > 0:16:02The ashes will go just behind the main notice board there.
0:16:04 > 0:16:08That's my dad with his brother, Chris. I don't know if you remember him.
0:16:10 > 0:16:14Oh, yes, the face is familiar.
0:16:14 > 0:16:20- How are you feeling about your dad and his...passing?- Yes.
0:16:20 > 0:16:22Are you coming to terms with it?
0:16:22 > 0:16:27You never get over it, you just learn to come to terms with it.
0:16:27 > 0:16:30You just think that you're never going to see him again.
0:16:30 > 0:16:31Then you get a bit, you know...
0:16:31 > 0:16:35- But you will, because that's the Christian message - you WILL see him again.- Yeah.
0:16:37 > 0:16:39What was the last game he saw?
0:16:39 > 0:16:42The Chelsea game, last game of the season.
0:16:49 > 0:16:54At St Mary's Hospital in Manchester, Hayley is about to have her scan.
0:16:54 > 0:16:57Down you go, make yourself comfortable.
0:16:57 > 0:17:01It's the moment of truth for Hayley and Chris.
0:17:02 > 0:17:05The jelly is as cold as ever.
0:17:05 > 0:17:10'You close your eyes, thinking that, if you close your eyes, it will go away.
0:17:10 > 0:17:13'Just wait then for the answer.
0:17:18 > 0:17:24'I'll hold Hayley's hand, I'll try not to look at Dr Gladman's face.
0:17:26 > 0:17:30'He always says that I squeeze his hand really tight, because I feel like
0:17:30 > 0:17:36'then I know that he's there and I'm not on my own if we get the bad news.'
0:17:41 > 0:17:44Playing hard to get, your baby.
0:17:44 > 0:17:45As you expect.
0:17:45 > 0:17:49'If it's going to be bad, it's going to be bad.
0:17:49 > 0:17:52'If it's going to be good, it's going to be good.
0:17:52 > 0:17:53'Whatever will be, will be,
0:17:53 > 0:17:56'but it's just hard sometimes to think like that.'
0:18:07 > 0:18:11PULSING
0:18:13 > 0:18:15A nice, steady heartbeat.
0:18:15 > 0:18:18One of the big blood vessels coming out, nicely developed.
0:18:18 > 0:18:22Little heart bobbing away down there.
0:18:22 > 0:18:25So, I'm happy. Awkward bits. I haven't seen any.
0:18:25 > 0:18:28I think it's important because you are early that we look again
0:18:28 > 0:18:31in about four weeks, like we did before.
0:18:31 > 0:18:34But in terms of major things, everything's there that should be there.
0:18:34 > 0:18:40- Everything is joined up properly. Hopefully you can relax a bit.- Yes.
0:18:40 > 0:18:42- Third time lucky.- Exactly.
0:18:43 > 0:18:47It's nice to know that at this stage,
0:18:47 > 0:18:50baby's heart looks normal.
0:18:50 > 0:18:53We're not used to having much good luck, so...
0:18:53 > 0:18:56any good look we'll take...
0:18:56 > 0:18:58with open arms and it's just...
0:18:58 > 0:19:03so good to hear someone say your baby's heart's normal.
0:19:05 > 0:19:09So far, the future for Hayley and Chris's third child is positive.
0:19:09 > 0:19:14Dave Williams, the chaplain at Alder Hey,
0:19:14 > 0:19:16is first to share the couple's good news.
0:19:16 > 0:19:20- 'Hello.'- Hi, Dave, it's only me. - 'Hiya, love. How are you?'
0:19:20 > 0:19:23I'm all right, thank you. It's just to say that everything went OK.
0:19:23 > 0:19:27- 'Isn't that wonderful?'- Yes, Dr... - 'The scan was OK?'
0:19:27 > 0:19:30Yes, everything's great. Dr Gladman said everything looks OK.
0:19:30 > 0:19:32- 'Isn't that brilliant?'- Yeah.
0:19:44 > 0:19:46It's match day at Everton Football Club,
0:19:46 > 0:19:52a perfect time to commemorate the life of a devoted Blues fan.
0:19:52 > 0:19:55Chaplin Harry Ross is at the memorial garden,
0:19:55 > 0:19:58where the service for Tony Melville will be held.
0:20:00 > 0:20:04There's a story behind every one of these plaques
0:20:04 > 0:20:06and the names on every plaque.
0:20:06 > 0:20:10So, we've got people from Canada, we've got people whose ashes
0:20:10 > 0:20:15have come from New Zealand, from America, from all over this country,
0:20:15 > 0:20:19and the ashes go in here, so they can still be very close
0:20:19 > 0:20:24to football, still close to Everton, as well as being close to God.
0:20:25 > 0:20:29Family and friends are gathering outside.
0:20:29 > 0:20:33Tony's son Mark, his grandson Bo,
0:20:33 > 0:20:36and friends Joe and Amanda Jane.
0:20:36 > 0:20:40Big Tony and I used to travel to away games before there was any M62.
0:20:40 > 0:20:42We used to go round all the little...
0:20:42 > 0:20:45- Villages.- ..all the little roads, getting up there.
0:20:45 > 0:20:49We used to travel to all the away games, his dad and I, years ago.
0:20:49 > 0:20:52His dad would have been delighted with this.
0:21:03 > 0:21:06Just a few moments of recollection.
0:21:06 > 0:21:10Ones in which I'd ask you to remember Tony,
0:21:10 > 0:21:16to remember his life, remember the things that he said and done
0:21:16 > 0:21:18which have made you a better person.
0:21:18 > 0:21:22And as we stand in this place, let's remember
0:21:22 > 0:21:24his connection with Everton,
0:21:24 > 0:21:29his love of that football team as we return Tony's ashes to the ground.
0:21:38 > 0:21:40- All right, Dad?- All right, Grandad.
0:21:45 > 0:21:48We have entrusted this, our brother Tony, to God's mercy.
0:21:48 > 0:21:51We now commit his mortal remains to the ground,
0:21:51 > 0:21:55earth to earth, ashes to ashes, dust to dust.
0:21:55 > 0:21:58Amen. If you'd like to put...?
0:21:58 > 0:22:01Beautiful, it couldn't have been better.
0:22:01 > 0:22:04I'm feeling a lot better.
0:22:04 > 0:22:06A lot better. It's just...
0:22:06 > 0:22:08- It's closed now, isn't it?- Mm.
0:22:08 > 0:22:11We've done what we've had to do and he's in the right place. So, yeah.
0:22:11 > 0:22:16- So, do you think you'll be coming back here again?- Yes.- Yes.
0:22:16 > 0:22:20- We'll pay him a visit every now and again.- Yeah.
0:22:24 > 0:22:29- OK, so hopefully it's a good match and if there's anything, give me a ring, let me know.- OK. Brilliant.
0:22:29 > 0:22:33And any time you're down, call and see me next door,
0:22:33 > 0:22:35- and keep shouting for the Blues.- OK.
0:22:39 > 0:22:43When I go, I'd like the service in the church in the corner
0:22:43 > 0:22:48of the ground where I spent 33 years of my ministry - if Everton would allow
0:22:48 > 0:22:51a chaplain's ashes to go here, that's what I want.
0:22:51 > 0:22:55Not too soon, of course, but I'd love them to go in here
0:22:55 > 0:23:02because my great loves in life - my love of God and my love of Everton Football Club.
0:23:12 > 0:23:16Today, the chaplains from Alder Hey Hospital are holding
0:23:16 > 0:23:18their annual service of remembrance
0:23:18 > 0:23:21for the children who didn't make it through treatment.
0:23:26 > 0:23:30The purpose of the service for us is hope and remembering.
0:23:30 > 0:23:33Anything, you know, that helps them
0:23:33 > 0:23:36to realise that the children are not forgotten, that they're not
0:23:36 > 0:23:40on their own in remembering them, that other people still do care.
0:23:40 > 0:23:43It's a very, very humbling experience,
0:23:43 > 0:23:46walking that kind of dark walk with them.
0:23:46 > 0:23:49And it is humbling as to how grateful they are
0:23:49 > 0:23:51for someone just to be there,
0:23:51 > 0:23:54someone non-clinical, who will just be there for them.
0:23:54 > 0:23:57And, I believe, who is not there trying to give them answers,
0:23:57 > 0:24:00who's actually prepared to say, "I don't know why this has happened.
0:24:00 > 0:24:03"But I do believe there is still hope in this situation,
0:24:03 > 0:24:05"there's still light in this darkness."
0:24:10 > 0:24:15- How are you?- OK! - Good to see you.- Good to see you.
0:24:15 > 0:24:16All right?
0:24:16 > 0:24:20Hiya, love. Good to see you.
0:24:20 > 0:24:23Look who's here!
0:24:23 > 0:24:24- Hello.- Hello!
0:24:24 > 0:24:28Chris and Hayley Jones are here to remember their first son, Ellis,
0:24:28 > 0:24:31as they look ahead to the birth of their third child.
0:24:31 > 0:24:33Hiya.
0:24:35 > 0:24:39All right, Chris. How are you doing, mate? It's good to see you.
0:24:39 > 0:24:42She's been sending me updates, saying I should be there,
0:24:42 > 0:24:46I will be there, so I think she's only a couple of weeks at the most,
0:24:46 > 0:24:49but she's hung on, good girl, so they can come.
0:24:49 > 0:24:53It's so special because we've got such an affinity, through Ellis,
0:24:53 > 0:24:57and then through this little man as well.
0:24:57 > 0:24:59And then hopefully through little Archie when he arrives,
0:24:59 > 0:25:01cos we've been asked to christen him.
0:25:01 > 0:25:04That's been in the diary for ever for Hayley.
0:25:04 > 0:25:07We've done all three of the little ones, bless them.
0:25:07 > 0:25:09It's just hard, coming back to Liverpool.
0:25:09 > 0:25:13But we're all here for the same reason, so...
0:25:13 > 0:25:17Every single one of us. So, we know we're not on our own.
0:25:17 > 0:25:22We've come today for this service which rightly is called
0:25:22 > 0:25:24Hope and Remembering.
0:25:41 > 0:25:44Father, bless all those who we no longer see,
0:25:44 > 0:25:49but who are so precious to us and who are safe in your care, we pray,
0:25:49 > 0:25:55until we can be with them again. And bless us all and all those who we love.
0:25:55 > 0:25:59In the name of Jesus Christ, we pray. Amen.
0:25:59 > 0:26:03Thank you so much for coming. It's been a pleasure to see you all.
0:26:12 > 0:26:15Oh, he's out for the count.
0:26:15 > 0:26:18- Out for the count.- Yeah! - So, how long to go?
0:26:18 > 0:26:20- Four weeks.- Four weeks?- Can't wait.
0:26:20 > 0:26:22Isn't that wonderful?
0:26:22 > 0:26:26If he's not here by Wednesday then I'll talk about inducing.
0:26:27 > 0:26:29- Isn't that wonderful?- Yes.
0:26:29 > 0:26:32People say to us, "How do you do your job?"
0:26:32 > 0:26:33And I say, "You must remember,
0:26:33 > 0:26:36"we have the happy times as well as sad times."
0:26:36 > 0:26:39And you epitomise that.
0:26:39 > 0:26:41You had the desperate times of Ellis
0:26:41 > 0:26:43and then the news on this little fella.
0:26:43 > 0:26:46But you have been through the mill so much.
0:26:46 > 0:26:49- Thanks for coming. - All right, Dave, see you later. - Keep us informed.- Will do.
0:26:49 > 0:26:52God bless, my little friend.
0:26:52 > 0:26:53Bless him.
0:27:03 > 0:27:07Just weeks later, Chris and Hayley are celebrating the new beginning
0:27:07 > 0:27:10they've been waiting and hoping for.
0:27:10 > 0:27:13The safe arrival of their third son.
0:27:13 > 0:27:15Archie Philip Jones.
0:27:15 > 0:27:18- Philip after your dad, isn't it?- Yes.
0:27:18 > 0:27:20Yeah.
0:27:21 > 0:27:23Yeah.
0:27:23 > 0:27:27- He suits it as well, doesn't he? Looking at him.- Seems to.
0:27:30 > 0:27:34I can see when Ellis first opened his eyes, when Archie does,
0:27:34 > 0:27:37- he looks like Ellis, doesn't he?- Yeah.
0:27:37 > 0:27:39When he opens his eyes.
0:27:39 > 0:27:43Which is nice to think, because Harley looks like Ellis as well.
0:27:43 > 0:27:47It's nice to think that Ellis will live on
0:27:47 > 0:27:51- in our other two children as they grow older.- Yeah.
0:27:52 > 0:27:56- Yeah, our family's complete now, isn't it?- Absolutely.
0:27:57 > 0:28:01- We've always said we wanted three children, and we've got them.- Yep.
0:28:01 > 0:28:05But very...very happy and proud.
0:28:08 > 0:28:09Perfect.
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