0:00:02 > 0:00:06The Church in Wales, a traditional institution of hymns,
0:00:06 > 0:00:08prayers and communion.
0:00:08 > 0:00:09Business has been good for millennia,
0:00:09 > 0:00:11but with ageing congregations,
0:00:11 > 0:00:15falling numbers, and abandoned buildings,
0:00:15 > 0:00:17the church is facing a serious religious recession.
0:00:19 > 0:00:22So does the answer lie within these walls
0:00:22 > 0:00:24at St Michael's College, Cardiff?
0:00:24 > 0:00:27A new generation of priests is being prepared for a life
0:00:27 > 0:00:31that is as likely to include the prison cell as the pulpit.
0:00:31 > 0:00:34And they're taking their message to the most unlikely places...
0:00:34 > 0:00:36Still got to write my sermon for tomorrow.
0:00:36 > 0:00:41The new recruits are stepping out of the scrum to tackle old ideas.
0:00:41 > 0:00:44As a woman, you've got the Vicar of Dibley stereotype,
0:00:44 > 0:00:47then you've got the lesbian stereotype.
0:00:47 > 0:00:49There aren't many hot Christians.
0:00:49 > 0:00:53But will the church authorities embrace the new generation?
0:00:53 > 0:00:58I really do worry that the church isn't ready for people like me.
0:00:58 > 0:01:01And what will congregations make of the young upstarts?
0:01:01 > 0:01:03She was very confident.
0:01:03 > 0:01:07And what will their reactions be when they try to mash up the mass?
0:01:09 > 0:01:12In the 21st century, the clergy have to get out there.
0:01:12 > 0:01:16This is a fully working embalming theatre.
0:01:16 > 0:01:19But will the new kids at the altar get their dog collars?
0:01:19 > 0:01:22Talked about leaving. Yeah, itchy feet.
0:01:24 > 0:01:28Tonight, Huw's put to the test at Cardiff prison.
0:01:28 > 0:01:30I just don't want to cock it up.
0:01:30 > 0:01:33Second-year Lorraine has important guests to impress.
0:01:33 > 0:01:37I'm starting to get really nervous now that Archbishop Rowan
0:01:37 > 0:01:39and Archbishop Barry are here.
0:01:39 > 0:01:41And Steve's getting his hands dirty.
0:01:41 > 0:01:43It concerns me in some ways that people don't really know
0:01:43 > 0:01:46about the Easter story. They don't really know
0:01:46 > 0:01:48about the symbolism of what we're doing.
0:01:48 > 0:01:51This is the roller-coaster ride of the Vicar Academy.
0:01:54 > 0:01:57We've been given unique access behind the scenes
0:01:57 > 0:02:00for an entire year at the Church in Wales' own college
0:02:00 > 0:02:01for training vicars.
0:02:02 > 0:02:05These students will face a unique set of challenges.
0:02:05 > 0:02:07A third of the clergy are about to retire.
0:02:09 > 0:02:12Congregations have dwindled and buildings have closed.
0:02:15 > 0:02:17A major part of their three year degree is Bible studies,
0:02:17 > 0:02:21which they need to know chapter and verse.
0:02:21 > 0:02:23Assess the presentation of Jesus' relationship
0:02:23 > 0:02:25- with Roman authority in the gospel. - Something else.
0:02:25 > 0:02:31Third-year student Steven is one of many facing the final test,
0:02:31 > 0:02:35and he has a rather unusual solution to the challenge.
0:02:35 > 0:02:40- I've forgotten it all.- There you go. It's everything you need.
0:02:40 > 0:02:43- You're not taking that in with you. - That's just rumours
0:02:43 > 0:02:47- that you can't take notes in with you.- Is it?- Yeah. You can take the Bible in as well.
0:02:49 > 0:02:53And if bending the rules fails, there's always divine intervention.
0:02:53 > 0:02:56THEY PRAY
0:02:56 > 0:02:59But the students are also expected to be familiar
0:02:59 > 0:03:02with all the practical aspects of the role of the vicar as well.
0:03:02 > 0:03:06Today a group from the college are visiting Thornhill Crematorium,
0:03:06 > 0:03:10to get an understanding of the practicalities of the funeral service,
0:03:10 > 0:03:14and to make sure they don't make any mistakes when it matters most.
0:03:15 > 0:03:17Roger Swann, the Crematorium Manager,
0:03:17 > 0:03:21shows the students round, and points out those all-important buttons.
0:03:23 > 0:03:26You just press the playback on there and the hymn will start playing
0:03:26 > 0:03:28all the way through and stop by itself.
0:03:28 > 0:03:30The schedule then will jump down ready for the next hymn
0:03:30 > 0:03:33or piece of music to play. And also then when you're ready for the curtains
0:03:33 > 0:03:36it's just pressing down on the button there,
0:03:36 > 0:03:39and the curtains will close around the coffin that's on the trolley there.
0:03:39 > 0:03:42Some people aren't keen on seeing that at the end of the service
0:03:42 > 0:03:44and then having to get up and walk away like that.
0:03:44 > 0:03:46They prefer the coffin to still be visible.
0:03:46 > 0:03:51What has second-year student Huw Bryant got out of today's visit?
0:03:51 > 0:03:53We've got to get used to coming to these places
0:03:53 > 0:03:55and know our way round them and know what happens,
0:03:55 > 0:03:59cos when you visit the families they may have questions as well.
0:03:59 > 0:04:02So it's just part of the development of that.
0:04:02 > 0:04:05Like knowing where the buttons are and which ones to push,
0:04:05 > 0:04:07showing that there was two different controllers there.
0:04:07 > 0:04:11You don't want to close the curtains when you're supposed to be starting the hymn.
0:04:11 > 0:04:13To get an understanding of how the religious and the practical
0:04:13 > 0:04:17come together, the students are also sent on placements to schools,
0:04:17 > 0:04:20hospitals and care homes, where they're mentored
0:04:20 > 0:04:23and assessed by experienced clergy.
0:04:25 > 0:04:28Steve Bunting is under the close eye of none other than
0:04:28 > 0:04:30the Bishop of Swansea and Brecon.
0:04:33 > 0:04:37Single dad of three Steve has to juggle family commitments
0:04:37 > 0:04:39with study at the college.
0:04:39 > 0:04:43He's also turned his back on a successful career as a banker
0:04:43 > 0:04:45to become a vicar.
0:04:45 > 0:04:48These are my employee of the month trophies.
0:04:48 > 0:04:49It's just a reminder to me that
0:04:49 > 0:04:53this was another life before the one I'm leading now.
0:04:53 > 0:04:57With Easter being one of the busiest times of the year for the clergy,
0:04:57 > 0:05:01Steve's getting a taste of the hectic schedule of a bishop.
0:05:01 > 0:05:03Today he's finding out about a modern twist
0:05:03 > 0:05:05on the traditional Easter story.
0:05:05 > 0:05:09This morning we're in Swansea Market in Swansea city centre,
0:05:09 > 0:05:12and it's Maundy Thursday, which is the day where we remember
0:05:12 > 0:05:16that Jesus washed his disciples' feet at the Last Supper,
0:05:16 > 0:05:18which we'll celebrate in church tonight.
0:05:18 > 0:05:21Traditionally we wash people's feet cos that's what Jesus did
0:05:21 > 0:05:25at the Last Supper. But here in Swansea, the bishop and myself
0:05:25 > 0:05:28are here shining people's shoes instead of washing their feet.
0:05:28 > 0:05:31As part of that we're asking for donations for the Lent Appeal
0:05:31 > 0:05:34charities, like Maggie's Cancer Care, things like that.
0:05:34 > 0:05:37So people get attracted to see a bishop in his purple robes
0:05:37 > 0:05:40washing people's feet, well, shining their shoes.
0:05:40 > 0:05:42- There we go.- Thank you very much.
0:05:42 > 0:05:44It's not long before Steve is rolling up his sleeves
0:05:44 > 0:05:47and following the bishop's example.
0:05:48 > 0:05:49If you just come round here.
0:05:55 > 0:06:00There we are, let's have this one.
0:06:00 > 0:06:02Good as new, look.
0:06:02 > 0:06:05- You'll need to find somebody to take you out tonight now.- That's lovely.
0:06:05 > 0:06:09- Thank you.- Now worries. Christianity tends to do a lot of things behind closed doors,
0:06:09 > 0:06:11and it's not the way Jesus did it and it's not the way
0:06:11 > 0:06:14we should be doing it, so we should be taking this opportunity
0:06:14 > 0:06:18to be out in the city centre, being seen, being faithful,
0:06:18 > 0:06:21doing active service to attract people and then people
0:06:21 > 0:06:24might be encouraged to go along to their local church tonight.
0:06:24 > 0:06:27Don't think, hang on, hang on, don't you get away with it,
0:06:27 > 0:06:30come here, you. You can have these done as well. Aw-w!
0:06:30 > 0:06:34Go out dancing. There we are.
0:06:34 > 0:06:37Look at them. As good as new.
0:06:37 > 0:06:39But what does the bishop make of Steve's efforts?
0:06:39 > 0:06:41He's somebody with a very good public face.
0:06:41 > 0:06:47He mixes well with people, he's also got a love for the faith
0:06:47 > 0:06:50deep in his heart, but he demonstrates that through
0:06:50 > 0:06:53getting involved with people where they are and that's essential.
0:06:53 > 0:06:57Yeah, it's been successful. We've had quite a lot of people coming through.
0:06:57 > 0:06:59Lots of opportunities to chat to people.
0:06:59 > 0:07:01We've had people from Swansea, people from Devon,
0:07:01 > 0:07:03people from Minnesota.
0:07:03 > 0:07:05Most people are quite interested in what we're doing.
0:07:05 > 0:07:08I suppose it concerns me in some ways that people don't really
0:07:08 > 0:07:09know about the Easter story.
0:07:09 > 0:07:13They don't really know about the symbolism of what we're doing.
0:07:13 > 0:07:15People have come over and asked why is he doing that.
0:07:15 > 0:07:17For me that gives us an opportunity,
0:07:17 > 0:07:20it's all an opportunity to be able to tell people.
0:07:20 > 0:07:24So, the less people know, the more opportunity we've got to tell them.
0:07:24 > 0:07:26So it's all good.
0:07:26 > 0:07:31In a previous life, Steve was used to handling larger sums of money,
0:07:31 > 0:07:34but the contents of the charity box probably means more to him
0:07:34 > 0:07:37today than any big deals in his former career.
0:07:39 > 0:07:42Back in Cardiff, plain-speaking Roz is not the average trainee vicar,
0:07:42 > 0:07:47and recently she's had her doubts about staying on the course.
0:07:47 > 0:07:51It'd just be so much easier just to do something different.
0:07:51 > 0:07:55Prop forward Roz has thrown herself into the world of the rugby club
0:07:55 > 0:07:57to get away from her college doubts.
0:07:57 > 0:08:01But sometimes her troubles on the course spill over onto the pitch.
0:08:01 > 0:08:04Some training sessions I get really annoyed at myself
0:08:04 > 0:08:08cos I won't be able to train properly cos I'm frustrated about whatever.
0:08:08 > 0:08:12We had a match, it was my first time propping.
0:08:12 > 0:08:14I'd had a really stressful day...
0:08:14 > 0:08:18It's on Sunday, you know, so what happens in church sometimes can reflect.
0:08:18 > 0:08:20I think it was a...
0:08:20 > 0:08:23I didn't enjoy the service or I disagreed with what was said
0:08:23 > 0:08:26or something had happened, and I was just like...
0:08:26 > 0:08:28when I got to the match I just couldn't switch on.
0:08:28 > 0:08:31I was so annoyed. The best way to be is to leave everything
0:08:31 > 0:08:32and just be playing the game.
0:08:37 > 0:08:42While the match starts off well, things don't all go Roz's way,
0:08:42 > 0:08:44and she has to make an early exit.
0:08:50 > 0:08:54I got my first yellow card in the last ten minutes of the game.
0:08:54 > 0:08:57Er...just took out somebody around the neck,
0:08:57 > 0:09:00which you're not meant to do. I didn't mean to.
0:09:00 > 0:09:03Sitting on the sidelines, she has time to think.
0:09:03 > 0:09:08For me at the moment rugby's kind of my staple, it's my reason to be here.
0:09:08 > 0:09:11It gives me a purpose. College doesn't do that for me.
0:09:11 > 0:09:15Like, at the moment, realistically, I've got no purpose in the church,
0:09:15 > 0:09:19and it's just like, well, I'll go somewhere where I've got
0:09:19 > 0:09:22a purpose and that, you know, gets translated into this kind of thing.
0:09:22 > 0:09:25So far, there's nothing that's inspiring about wanting to get
0:09:25 > 0:09:27ordained in what I've done.
0:09:27 > 0:09:30There is, cos you're obviously around all these amazing people
0:09:30 > 0:09:34who are doing. But I don't feel that I've got a meaning right now.
0:09:35 > 0:09:39In Cardiff prison, Huw's also had time to reflect.
0:09:39 > 0:09:42His rebellious past, filled with youthful run-ins with the police
0:09:42 > 0:09:46and protest marches around the country could have
0:09:46 > 0:09:49brought him to a place like this under different circumstances.
0:09:49 > 0:09:52If I'd been born in a different place, would that be me in there?
0:09:52 > 0:09:54I mean, you look around the prison and you just think,
0:09:54 > 0:09:57"There but for the grace of God goes you or I."
0:09:57 > 0:10:01Now he's under the supervision of mentor Mark John, an experienced
0:10:01 > 0:10:03chaplain at the prison.
0:10:04 > 0:10:08From day one, Huw has shown his nerves, but also
0:10:08 > 0:10:10a willingness to put himself out there.
0:10:10 > 0:10:14Mark wants to see if Huw can cope with the demands of the prison,
0:10:14 > 0:10:17and has arranged for him to do an induction - a one to one
0:10:17 > 0:10:20interview with a prisoner on his arrival at the jail.
0:10:20 > 0:10:22What I thought would be a good thing is for you to help us
0:10:22 > 0:10:25with one of those induction interviews. You've seen me do a couple
0:10:25 > 0:10:27and you've seen some other bits and pieces.
0:10:27 > 0:10:30The prisoner you're about to see is someone I know quite well.
0:10:30 > 0:10:31He's been in and out of here a lot of times.
0:10:31 > 0:10:35You'll probably feel a bit nervous going through the questions, probably a bit awkward.
0:10:35 > 0:10:38I just want you to go into his cell there with him now. I'll leave you to it,
0:10:38 > 0:10:41and you see what information you can get out of him, OK?
0:10:41 > 0:10:43- OK.- Happy?- As I'm going to be.
0:10:44 > 0:10:46Right.
0:10:46 > 0:10:50- Nice to meet you.- Huw from the chaplaincy.
0:10:50 > 0:10:52We'll just run through some of these questions on here.
0:10:52 > 0:10:56- Were you working before you came in? - Erm...no, no.
0:10:56 > 0:11:00Erm...cos I'm one of the detox script Subutex.
0:11:00 > 0:11:05- It's like, I suppose, still using. You're not liable to work.- Methadone?
0:11:05 > 0:11:09No, it's similar to that, but, like, Subutex is, erm...
0:11:09 > 0:11:13like, methadone you can use on top and I was scared I would.
0:11:13 > 0:11:18- Ah.- So, Subutex, as soon as that dissolves under your tongue...- Yeah?
0:11:18 > 0:11:23..you CAN use. Best way to describe is, you know the Ready Brek advert
0:11:23 > 0:11:25with the little kid with the glow around him?
0:11:25 > 0:11:29It's like that with me. I've got an invisible protection barrier around me.
0:11:29 > 0:11:33- It's quite a new thing.- Yeah. I'll have to look that one up.
0:11:33 > 0:11:35It's all a learning curve for Huw,
0:11:35 > 0:11:38but there are some experiences from his past that he's happy
0:11:38 > 0:11:41to share with the prisoners in order to make a personal connection.
0:11:41 > 0:11:44I was on a scheme with the probation,
0:11:44 > 0:11:47voluntary pilot scheme, where they give you a tag around your leg
0:11:47 > 0:11:52and they can monitor you if they need to 24 hours a day from a computer.
0:11:52 > 0:11:55They can find out where you are three feet in front of you,
0:11:55 > 0:11:59three feet behind you and three feet to the side of you with this tag.
0:11:59 > 0:12:01Yeah, I had a mate who was on one before.
0:12:01 > 0:12:03They always used to drag him out his house to set it off.
0:12:03 > 0:12:06Yeah, that's a different one. That's a curfew one.
0:12:06 > 0:12:10- This is one that just tracks you everywhere?- 24/7.
0:12:10 > 0:12:12So if they come and said, "Right, you done a burglary,
0:12:12 > 0:12:14"at the beginning of the month at so and so,"
0:12:14 > 0:12:17they can go back on the computer, the team in probation,
0:12:17 > 0:12:21and say, no it wasn't him, or yes, it was him.
0:12:21 > 0:12:24If there is any help you do need, then, you know,
0:12:24 > 0:12:25I hope you do feel you can ask
0:12:25 > 0:12:29and anyone in the chaplaincy team will come over and have a chat.
0:12:29 > 0:12:32Yeah, I know that, yeah, yeah. Is Sister Yvonne still there?
0:12:32 > 0:12:35Sister Yvonne? Yeah, I think she is still around.
0:12:35 > 0:12:39- She was the first one there when my daughter died.- Oh, right.
0:12:39 > 0:12:41Even thought I was out and I tried to save her,
0:12:41 > 0:12:45five days later I went silly, got stupid drunk.
0:12:45 > 0:12:46I've never drunk to this day since,
0:12:46 > 0:12:49but I found myself in here for a week.
0:12:49 > 0:12:52It's all right, that's one of the things I got done for.
0:12:52 > 0:12:54Well, we all have our flaws.
0:12:54 > 0:12:56We all get done for something at some point.
0:12:56 > 0:13:02Again Huw's unfazed by sharing details of past experiences
0:13:02 > 0:13:04to gain trust and to build bridges.
0:13:04 > 0:13:06I'm in here for the week, but, you know, as you said,
0:13:06 > 0:13:09I might see you outside. But Mark will be here all the time anyway.
0:13:09 > 0:13:12- Thank you.- Thanks very much.- Thanks very much, mate.
0:13:12 > 0:13:13- Cheers.- Thank you. Bye.
0:13:15 > 0:13:18He seems to know the system better than I do
0:13:18 > 0:13:21and I think he was teaching me half the time.
0:13:21 > 0:13:23They need help, not locking up.
0:13:23 > 0:13:26So, hopefully between chaplaincy and then when they get out,
0:13:26 > 0:13:28not just churches, but secular charities as well,
0:13:28 > 0:13:31maybe we can do some good and help break the cycle.
0:13:33 > 0:13:38Having spent the morning polishing shoes for charity with the bishop,
0:13:38 > 0:13:41Steve's travelled to Brecon Cathedral for a more traditional
0:13:41 > 0:13:44take on Maundy Thursday.
0:13:44 > 0:13:47Whilst fundraising in Swansea market provided a modern way
0:13:47 > 0:13:49of getting out to the community,
0:13:49 > 0:13:54the evening service shows Steve the traditional side of the church.
0:13:54 > 0:13:56I've taken part in small cathedral services
0:13:56 > 0:14:00but never a service of this size and this kind of...fussiness,
0:14:00 > 0:14:04for want of a better phrase. I'm doing various bits and pieces,
0:14:04 > 0:14:06I'm serving at the, erm...thurifer.
0:14:06 > 0:14:11And I'm washing feet and having feet washed. All in one service.
0:14:11 > 0:14:15This is brand new for me. I'm quite excited about it.
0:14:15 > 0:14:18The service is one of the most poignant during Easter,
0:14:18 > 0:14:22and involves members of the congregation having their feet washed.
0:14:22 > 0:14:25With the incense and choir, it's a million miles
0:14:25 > 0:14:27from Steve's more modern church background.
0:14:27 > 0:14:32There is something very poignant about kneeling down on the floor
0:14:32 > 0:14:34and washing somebody's feet, you know.
0:14:34 > 0:14:37Obviously that's what Jesus did, you're mimicking his actions
0:14:37 > 0:14:39and it is quite humbling to do that.
0:14:39 > 0:14:42I suppose before the service you have a bit of a laugh and a joke about,
0:14:42 > 0:14:45you know, "Have you washed your feet?" Messing about, that kind of thing.
0:14:45 > 0:14:49But when you're actually doing it, it is a fairly sombre thing to do.
0:14:49 > 0:14:52It's really great to be part of the drama of the occasion.
0:14:52 > 0:14:56I think it has been a contrast, cos one minute you're in the market
0:14:56 > 0:14:59shoe-shining and having an opportunity to speak to the public.
0:14:59 > 0:15:02And then in the evening you're in an ancient building
0:15:02 > 0:15:07with members of the public, just celebrating in a solemn way.
0:15:07 > 0:15:10Re-enacting Jesus, the Last Supper
0:15:10 > 0:15:12and it is quite a striking balance, really.
0:15:12 > 0:15:14It's the two aims of what we do as a church.
0:15:14 > 0:15:19We come together in the church building to celebrate
0:15:19 > 0:15:22parts of Jesus' life and then we go out to do things
0:15:22 > 0:15:25and to tell people about Jesus' life.
0:15:25 > 0:15:28So, they're both the dual purpose of the church, really.
0:15:28 > 0:15:33At Cardiff prison, Huw's started to put his nerves to the back of his mind.
0:15:33 > 0:15:37Chaplain and mentor Mark wants to see evidence of him
0:15:37 > 0:15:40working independently during his rounds of the health-care
0:15:40 > 0:15:42centre as part of his next test.
0:15:44 > 0:15:46You coping all right, like?
0:15:47 > 0:15:50Having been encouraged to look for signs of vulnerability or
0:15:50 > 0:15:54distress, Huw spots a prisoner who's at the end of his tether
0:15:54 > 0:15:57and decides to take the initiative.
0:15:59 > 0:16:05- Mark, is it all right for me to go in?- It is. Yep, no problem.
0:16:05 > 0:16:07Of course it is.
0:16:11 > 0:16:13'Huw's just doing his ordinary rounds.
0:16:13 > 0:16:16'Getting more confident as he's been going on and now, he just called me
0:16:16 > 0:16:20'to open a call door for him because he hasn't got keys, he can't get in.'
0:16:20 > 0:16:24And there's a prisoner who is in quite a lot of distress, so he's spending some time.
0:16:24 > 0:16:26That's the perfect thing in this experience.
0:16:26 > 0:16:28He was saying to me before, "I haven't got much experience.
0:16:28 > 0:16:30"I find these sort of things difficult."
0:16:30 > 0:16:32The only way you get experience is to sit down.
0:16:32 > 0:16:35I noticed the way he was sat in there, his body language was
0:16:35 > 0:16:38very open and laid-back and allowing the guy to talk to him.
0:16:38 > 0:16:43So, hopefully again he's doing my work for me, which is nice.
0:16:43 > 0:16:47But he'll gain experience which will equip him well in the future.
0:16:47 > 0:16:48The poor lad's cracking up in there,
0:16:48 > 0:16:50cos he just doesn't know what's going on.
0:16:52 > 0:16:54And obviously, what he says he did
0:16:54 > 0:16:57and what the charge sheet says might be different.
0:16:57 > 0:16:59Got to take everything with a pinch of salt.
0:16:59 > 0:17:03But...he's still in a mess and he still needs us
0:17:03 > 0:17:05to go in and check on him.
0:17:05 > 0:17:08Sometimes they just need reminding that there are people out there
0:17:08 > 0:17:12who care and they have got something to look forward to, to live for.
0:17:14 > 0:17:17And try and get to focus on the positive of the future that they
0:17:17 > 0:17:20might have, if they can sort themselves out.
0:17:20 > 0:17:25Rather than going over the past in a downwards spiral continuously.
0:17:25 > 0:17:29With some early successes under his belt, Mark wants to see
0:17:29 > 0:17:33if Huw can pass one last test before he gives his final
0:17:33 > 0:17:35verdict at the end of the day.
0:17:39 > 0:17:41As part of the course, the students are expected to
0:17:41 > 0:17:43take on the role of Deacon in services,
0:17:43 > 0:17:47looking after many of the practical elements.
0:17:47 > 0:17:51Sometimes special guests are invited, and today is
0:17:51 > 0:17:55particularly nerve-wracking for the student at centre stage.
0:17:55 > 0:17:57The Archbishop of Canterbury
0:17:57 > 0:18:00and the Archbishop of Wales are visiting the college.
0:18:00 > 0:18:04And all the responsibility is on second-year Lorraine's shoulders.
0:18:05 > 0:18:09When we got the rotas out at the beginning of term, I looked at the rota
0:18:09 > 0:18:12and realised that I was deaconing this service, which is normally fine.
0:18:12 > 0:18:15But actually the Archbishop of Canterbury's coming,
0:18:15 > 0:18:18as well as the Archbishop of Wales, for this service.
0:18:18 > 0:18:22So, it's quite a big service to be organising
0:18:22 > 0:18:26and it represents the college, so...I wanted it to be a good service
0:18:26 > 0:18:31that properly represented the college and all the diversity that we've got.
0:18:31 > 0:18:34There are plenty of last minute preparations to ensure that
0:18:34 > 0:18:36everyone knows their part,
0:18:36 > 0:18:40and the clocks ticking for the arrival of the main guests.
0:18:40 > 0:18:44I was nervous first thing this morning. I'm OK at the moment.
0:18:44 > 0:18:47But I know I'm not very good at small talk,
0:18:47 > 0:18:48so I'm really nervous about
0:18:48 > 0:18:51doing small talk with the archbishops, and also I'm
0:18:51 > 0:18:56singing the psalm and my voice always wobbles when I'm nervous.
0:18:56 > 0:18:58So, I'm hoping that is going to be OK.
0:19:00 > 0:19:04As the two archbishops prepare for their part in the service,
0:19:04 > 0:19:07Lorraine keeps a keen eye on proceedings
0:19:07 > 0:19:09while she tries to control her emotions.
0:19:09 > 0:19:12I'm starting to get really nervous, now...
0:19:12 > 0:19:15now Archbishop Rowan and Archbishop Barry are here.
0:19:15 > 0:19:20I keep looking at my notes and thinking, "What am I going to forget"?
0:19:20 > 0:19:22It's good to be with you here this morning
0:19:22 > 0:19:27and it's especially good that Archbishop Rowan is with us.
0:19:27 > 0:19:31And it's also meant that I don't have to preach this morning,
0:19:31 > 0:19:35as I was due to do, because he is going to preach the sermon.
0:19:35 > 0:19:40- Yn enw'r Tad a'r Mab a'r Ysbryd Glan.- Amen.
0:19:40 > 0:19:44There's no hiding place for Lorraine, but will her
0:19:44 > 0:19:48singing voice betray her nerves as she steps up to sing the psalm?
0:19:48 > 0:19:50SONG: "PSALM 51"
0:19:51 > 0:19:56# Have mercy on me, O God
0:19:56 > 0:20:00# And cleanse me for my sins
0:20:01 > 0:20:05# Have mercy on me, O God
0:20:07 > 0:20:13# And cleanse me for my sins. #
0:20:13 > 0:20:16With the psalm having gone well, Lorraine
0:20:16 > 0:20:20and the rest of the students can sit back and listen to
0:20:20 > 0:20:23a specially tailored sermon from the Archbishop of Canterbury.
0:20:23 > 0:20:25I used to teach in a theological college,
0:20:25 > 0:20:28and indeed I was in a theological college.
0:20:28 > 0:20:31Some people feel their spiritual life goes to pieces once
0:20:31 > 0:20:32they're ordained.
0:20:32 > 0:20:35But what all that is about, of course, is that the pressure
0:20:35 > 0:20:41of being in Christ is always taking us in the direction of Christ.
0:20:41 > 0:20:44"Where he is, his servants will be."
0:20:44 > 0:20:48Trying to learn how to trust that he is ahead of us,
0:20:48 > 0:20:50even when we don't see the way.
0:20:52 > 0:20:54And trying to trust that he is at work in us,
0:20:54 > 0:20:58even when we can't begin to see how.
0:20:58 > 0:21:00I've never done with believing in God.
0:21:00 > 0:21:02I've never fully learned how to believe in God.
0:21:02 > 0:21:07Every day of my life, I am learning how to believe in God.
0:21:07 > 0:21:14May God help us in our ministries, to enable the world to "get" Jesus,
0:21:14 > 0:21:18to see the mystery exploding to the ends of the earth,
0:21:18 > 0:21:22penetrating every corner of the human experience.
0:21:22 > 0:21:23Amen.
0:21:23 > 0:21:26The end of the service is an opportunity for the students
0:21:26 > 0:21:31to take advantage of the ultimate Anglican photo opportunity,
0:21:31 > 0:21:34and for Lorraine to breathe a huge sigh of relief.
0:21:35 > 0:21:38I'm really glad it's over. It's such a relief.
0:21:38 > 0:21:42I really enjoyed the service. It was really good.
0:21:42 > 0:21:44I would be looking forward to a glass of wine,
0:21:44 > 0:21:47except I've given it up for Lent.
0:21:47 > 0:21:52And as Lorraine celebrates without alcohol, both archbishops think
0:21:52 > 0:21:55back to their own college days at a very different time.
0:21:55 > 0:22:00I was in theological college 40 years ago, believe it or not.
0:22:00 > 0:22:05And what amazes me is it never crossed my mind that there
0:22:05 > 0:22:08were no women training for ministry.
0:22:08 > 0:22:12And since then, of course, I'm convinced that that's the right way.
0:22:12 > 0:22:15And I think it's been a very interesting trend in the last five
0:22:15 > 0:22:19to ten years that the average age does seem to have gone down again.
0:22:19 > 0:22:23And that's important in role-modelling for younger Christians.
0:22:23 > 0:22:26It's important in getting the sense that we have people
0:22:26 > 0:22:27who are taking a long view.
0:22:27 > 0:22:32They're prepared to be giving the rest of what could be quite a long ministry.
0:22:32 > 0:22:37And before they disappear, there's just time for God's team photo with
0:22:37 > 0:22:39both captains at centre stage.
0:22:41 > 0:22:45In Cardiff prison, it's time for a quick fag break.
0:22:45 > 0:22:47Huw is really getting the hang of things,
0:22:47 > 0:22:50but mentor Mark wants him to face his toughest test.
0:22:50 > 0:22:54On a previous day, Mark had to break the news of the death
0:22:54 > 0:22:59of a grandmother to a prisoner, and now it's Huw's turn to follow it up.
0:22:59 > 0:23:01In terms of the guy with the bereavement,
0:23:01 > 0:23:05really just check up how the week's been, how he's feeling.
0:23:05 > 0:23:08Does he know when the funeral is? Get the information off him.
0:23:08 > 0:23:11Very straightforward. You don't need no expertise to do that.
0:23:11 > 0:23:14You can go on 101 courses about how you do bereavement counselling
0:23:14 > 0:23:17or whatever, but it's actually just listening to the guy
0:23:17 > 0:23:19and responding to what he's saying and how he's feeling.
0:23:19 > 0:23:22So, I just don't want to cock it up. Something like that...
0:23:22 > 0:23:25He seemed quite willing for you to talk to him.
0:23:25 > 0:23:29So, he's not going to do something that somebody doesn't want to do or whatever.
0:23:29 > 0:23:32Just checking up. It's just what we do naturally, after a couple of days.
0:23:32 > 0:23:34Just check up on someone and see how they are.
0:23:34 > 0:23:36You can mess up 101 things as a vicar,
0:23:36 > 0:23:38but you mess up a funeral or a bereavement...
0:23:38 > 0:23:42You know that, so you won't, will you? You won't. You're not overconfident.
0:23:42 > 0:23:45It's overconfidence that does it.
0:23:45 > 0:23:48With apparent nerves, Huw faces his most challenging test,
0:23:48 > 0:23:52and one he feels ill-prepared to deal with.
0:23:52 > 0:23:55He knows full well that all his previous good work will
0:23:55 > 0:23:57count for nothing if he makes a mess of this.
0:23:57 > 0:24:00- We'll just have a chat with you, all right?- All right.
0:24:02 > 0:24:06Sorry, I know it's a difficult situation for you, but it's useful
0:24:06 > 0:24:11for my training to see how you deal with things like that in here.
0:24:11 > 0:24:14- Because, it's not easy, is it? - It's not, no.
0:24:14 > 0:24:17It's just one of them things that you've got to deal with
0:24:17 > 0:24:19when you're in here.
0:24:19 > 0:24:27You can't ask to go out, because they won't let you out. So, basically, the funeral's tomorrow.
0:24:27 > 0:24:29Everyone's a bit sad about it.
0:24:30 > 0:24:33I have a visit with my brothers tomorrow in here and we'll have a chat
0:24:33 > 0:24:35and take it from there.
0:24:35 > 0:24:39So, all you do is buckle down and get on with it.
0:24:39 > 0:24:43Cos she was ill, she had cancer of the throat and various other things.
0:24:43 > 0:24:47It doesn't matter how expected it is, once you get that news.
0:24:47 > 0:24:49It is hard. I was shocked.
0:24:49 > 0:24:53But I knew it was something up when I seen the card on the door.
0:24:53 > 0:24:54It was bad news.
0:24:54 > 0:24:58I knew something would have been happening with my grandmother.
0:24:58 > 0:25:02I can't do anything, I'm just upset, depressed.
0:25:02 > 0:25:07Can't sleep for the last couple of days, thinking of what's going on.
0:25:07 > 0:25:10All my cousins are going to be there.
0:25:10 > 0:25:13Uncles, aunties, they're all going to be at the funeral.
0:25:13 > 0:25:14And I'm going to be in here.
0:25:14 > 0:25:17Stuck in for another six weeks until I go back.
0:25:17 > 0:25:20So, it's just six weeks you've got, as well?
0:25:20 > 0:25:22- So, at least it's not too long. - No, it's not too long.
0:25:22 > 0:25:25It feels like an eternity when you're doing it, I'm sure.
0:25:25 > 0:25:26My father said, "Look, when you get out,
0:25:26 > 0:25:29"make sure you go and see her grave and put some flowers on it."
0:25:29 > 0:25:31That's what I'll be doing, anyway.
0:25:31 > 0:25:35I will pray for her and light a candle,
0:25:35 > 0:25:37say goodbye in my own way, because it is tomorrow.
0:25:37 > 0:25:40And that's all I can do.
0:25:40 > 0:25:45- And I'll say a couple of prayers myself, you know.- Thank you very much.
0:25:45 > 0:25:48With some of the most difficult encounters at the prison
0:25:48 > 0:25:52under his belt, Huw's placement finally comes to an end.
0:25:52 > 0:25:54But what does he make of the experience,
0:25:54 > 0:25:57and would Mark welcome him back with open arms?
0:25:57 > 0:26:00- Well done, Huw.- Thank you, very much. - Thank you very much.
0:26:00 > 0:26:03If you ever want to be a prison chaplain, come and see me.
0:26:03 > 0:26:05Well, I might see if I can come back for another placement, maybe.
0:26:05 > 0:26:09It has been good to have you here. We've had a good time and I hope you've enjoyed yourself.
0:26:09 > 0:26:12Thanks very much. Cheers. Bye.
0:26:12 > 0:26:14'It's going to take quite a while to process it all, I think.'
0:26:16 > 0:26:18You've got the extremes.
0:26:18 > 0:26:21You've got the guy whose grandmother died
0:26:21 > 0:26:24and he just gets on with it, brave face on.
0:26:24 > 0:26:27Whereas, you open another cell and say, "Hello - chaplain,
0:26:27 > 0:26:30"how are you getting on", and they just burst into tears.
0:26:31 > 0:26:35You just got the generic question of how do you deal with grown men crying?
0:26:35 > 0:26:38If he was working in Cardiff, I would be happy for him to come
0:26:38 > 0:26:40and work in Cardiff prison with me.
0:26:40 > 0:26:42I just feel that at this stage in his ministry,
0:26:42 > 0:26:45he feels called to work in a rural environment
0:26:45 > 0:26:47and that's something that he should treasure and get on with.
0:26:47 > 0:26:50We have to deal with the fact that we are there for everybody
0:26:50 > 0:26:54and regardless of whether they're a Christian, as well.
0:26:54 > 0:26:59The Anglican church is probably unique in that a parish system,
0:26:59 > 0:27:00we are there for everybody.
0:27:00 > 0:27:03We have legal duties to everybody in Britain...
0:27:05 > 0:27:07..regardless of what they think of us.
0:27:10 > 0:27:15As the Easter term comes to an end, rugby-loving Roz is trying to
0:27:15 > 0:27:17make the toughest decision of her life -
0:27:17 > 0:27:20whether she's going to stay on the course.
0:27:20 > 0:27:23Today she's come to a conference that may allow her to combine
0:27:23 > 0:27:26her twin passions - God and rugby.
0:27:27 > 0:27:30There's a serious need for sports chaplains, say.
0:27:30 > 0:27:31And they're trying to spread it out
0:27:31 > 0:27:34and get as many people involved as possible.
0:27:34 > 0:27:37I think there's a serious need for pastoral support
0:27:37 > 0:27:40and just a caring person who's there, who's neutral.
0:27:40 > 0:27:43Not part of the coaching team, there purely for the holistic
0:27:43 > 0:27:47needs of the players, at the amateur or professional level.
0:27:47 > 0:27:51It's my great loves all boiled into one thing.
0:27:51 > 0:27:55So, if I can fulfil that, I'd be just really happy.
0:27:55 > 0:27:58For Roz, there's just one big drawback to
0:27:58 > 0:28:04sports chaplaincy - it's currently not a career funded by the church.
0:28:04 > 0:28:06It's not a full-time job,
0:28:06 > 0:28:10unfortunately the church hasn't always been sport savvy.
0:28:10 > 0:28:13It would be great to just do voluntary work all the time,
0:28:13 > 0:28:15but it doesn't pay the bills.
0:28:15 > 0:28:19Whilst the day has been a success for making contacts within
0:28:19 > 0:28:23sports chaplaincy, time is ticking for Roz.
0:28:23 > 0:28:26The college authorities need a decision, and she's going to
0:28:26 > 0:28:30have to think long and hard over the next few days.
0:28:31 > 0:28:33Next time,
0:28:33 > 0:28:36the students let their hair down at the end of year celebrations...
0:28:41 > 0:28:44..Roz comes to a final conclusion...
0:28:44 > 0:28:48I don't think this is necessarily the wrong or the right thing, but it's a decision.
0:28:48 > 0:28:51..and for those who get their dog collars, what's life
0:28:51 > 0:28:53really like in the church?
0:28:53 > 0:28:55It was brilliant, I really, really enjoyed it.
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