Dinosaurs: The Hunt for Life

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0:00:16 > 0:00:21For 100 million years, dinosaurs dominated the Earth.

0:00:23 > 0:00:26But they remain enigmatic creatures.

0:00:30 > 0:00:33That's because all that scientists had to work with

0:00:33 > 0:00:35were fossilized bones.

0:00:42 > 0:00:44Ah! Woo!

0:00:46 > 0:00:50But now, the seemingly impossible has been discovered...

0:00:54 > 0:00:55- Oh, look!- Yeah.

0:00:55 > 0:01:00..signs of life inside these long-dead skeletons.

0:01:00 > 0:01:02It opened the door to the possibility

0:01:02 > 0:01:05that we could begin to understand dinosaurs in a different way.

0:01:08 > 0:01:10For the first time,

0:01:10 > 0:01:12they've been able to look at the blood of a T-rex...

0:01:19 > 0:01:22..touch 68 million-year-old soft tissue...

0:01:26 > 0:01:29It was, you know, goosebump-inducing -

0:01:29 > 0:01:32just about everything that we saw.

0:01:37 > 0:01:39And Dr Mary Schweitzer may be on the verge

0:01:39 > 0:01:44of turning Hollywood fantasy into scientific reality...

0:01:53 > 0:01:56..finding dinosaur DNA.

0:01:58 > 0:02:01It looks like it, it acts like it, it smells like it.

0:02:01 > 0:02:05You know what, if you have cells, if you have soft tissue,

0:02:05 > 0:02:08if you have proteins,

0:02:08 > 0:02:10why rule out DNA?

0:02:46 > 0:02:48For the past few decades,

0:02:48 > 0:02:51dinosaur hunters have been drawn to the American West.

0:02:54 > 0:02:57It's pretty much Dr Mary Schweitzer's back yard.

0:03:01 > 0:03:06She lives for part of the year in the Rocky Mountain state of Montana,

0:03:07 > 0:03:11where some of the richest dinosaur remains have been uncovered.

0:03:23 > 0:03:27A lot of dinosaurs lived in this area because just to the East of us,

0:03:27 > 0:03:30in Eastern Montana, North and South Dakota,

0:03:30 > 0:03:33was a big, shallow, warm inland sea.

0:03:33 > 0:03:36And so the dinosaurs would follow the seaway,

0:03:36 > 0:03:39migrating up and down, North and South,

0:03:39 > 0:03:40so there was a lot of them here.

0:03:43 > 0:03:46More T-rexes have been found here in Montana

0:03:46 > 0:03:48than anywhere else in the world.

0:03:54 > 0:03:58But we know very little about the world's most iconic dinosaur...

0:04:02 > 0:04:07..apart from a few very simple facts, like it was 12m long

0:04:07 > 0:04:09and could weigh seven tonnes.

0:04:16 > 0:04:18That's a good boy. Come on.

0:04:18 > 0:04:20There you go.

0:04:20 > 0:04:23And that's because, according to Dr Schweitzer,

0:04:23 > 0:04:26the male-dominated world of dinosaur science

0:04:26 > 0:04:28tends to ask the wrong questions.

0:04:30 > 0:04:34I think for men a lot of it is, "Can we quantify it?"

0:04:34 > 0:04:37You know - bigger teeth, meaner animal.

0:04:37 > 0:04:39And I think for women, we're...

0:04:39 > 0:04:41I can't say that it's all that way

0:04:41 > 0:04:44but I think mostly we ask different questions.

0:04:44 > 0:04:47We ask, "How did they function? What was their biology?"

0:04:47 > 0:04:50SHE LAUGHS

0:04:50 > 0:04:52Ah! Woo!

0:04:54 > 0:04:58Today, she isn't riding the range in search of another T-rex.

0:05:02 > 0:05:06She's hunting more recent remains that might help to reveal

0:05:06 > 0:05:10some of the hidden secrets of the world's best-known dinosaur.

0:05:22 > 0:05:25And that's because she's interested in how

0:05:25 > 0:05:28the once-living tissue of this dead buffalo

0:05:28 > 0:05:30decays and gets broken down over time.

0:05:38 > 0:05:42In palaeontology, we can't watch our dinosaurs die.

0:05:42 > 0:05:44And we can't see what's going to happen to them.

0:05:44 > 0:05:48But we know that obviously, if all we have is a skeleton,

0:05:48 > 0:05:50we don't have the whole dinosaur.

0:05:50 > 0:05:53There's a lot of information missing.

0:05:53 > 0:05:57But again, when you see parts in the fossil record...

0:05:57 > 0:05:59this is skin right there.

0:05:59 > 0:06:01That has a high preservation potential

0:06:01 > 0:06:05and it's because of the molecular make-up of the skin itself.

0:06:05 > 0:06:07The guts are gone, the intestines are gone.

0:06:08 > 0:06:12But the skin and the cartilage, the bone and the teeth

0:06:12 > 0:06:13are what remain.

0:06:16 > 0:06:17Good boy.

0:06:18 > 0:06:20Your buddies are jealous, huh?

0:06:22 > 0:06:24It's long been Mary's dream to do this

0:06:24 > 0:06:27with a 65 million-year-old fossil.

0:06:31 > 0:06:34To be able to get her hands on blood,

0:06:34 > 0:06:39soft tissue and even the DNA of a T-rex.

0:06:39 > 0:06:40Come on, play with me.

0:06:42 > 0:06:44It might seem an impossible task

0:06:44 > 0:06:46but she believes that finding signs of life,

0:06:46 > 0:06:49uncovering ancient biology,

0:06:49 > 0:06:52is the only way to put flesh on the bones

0:06:52 > 0:06:55of the most iconic creatures ever to stalk the Earth.

0:06:58 > 0:07:01I mean, a lot of the things that have been done in the past,

0:07:01 > 0:07:05with respect to dinosaurs, have been untestable hypotheses.

0:07:05 > 0:07:08I mean, really, you could say dinosaurs were invisible and green

0:07:08 > 0:07:11and how would I prove you wrong? There's no data.

0:07:11 > 0:07:12I love the way they smell.

0:07:14 > 0:07:17'So I think that getting at some of these questions

0:07:17 > 0:07:19'about how their proteins are put together

0:07:19 > 0:07:21'can get us at their function,

0:07:21 > 0:07:23'get us at why they had an evolutionary advantage.'

0:07:23 > 0:07:27And if we can understand that, there's a lot we can learn from them.

0:07:27 > 0:07:31You're falling asleep! Look at, those eyes are starting to get shut.

0:07:38 > 0:07:42Imagine trying to figure out how a horse might look,

0:07:42 > 0:07:44just from its skeleton.

0:07:52 > 0:07:56Without the biology - the cells, protein and DNA...

0:07:57 > 0:07:59..we couldn't tell what colour its eyes were...

0:08:01 > 0:08:02..how far it could see...

0:08:04 > 0:08:05..the way it smelt...

0:08:07 > 0:08:08..the texture of its coat...

0:08:11 > 0:08:13..the make and shape of its muscles.

0:08:16 > 0:08:20Without its biology, the horse just isn't a horse.

0:08:25 > 0:08:29But most palaeontologists believed that finding any biological material

0:08:29 > 0:08:32in 65 million-year-old dinosaur bones

0:08:32 > 0:08:34was impossible.

0:08:37 > 0:08:41And that's because it was thought that the process of fossilisation

0:08:41 > 0:08:43destroyed every living thing in the bone.

0:08:48 > 0:08:51Once the dead animal is covered in sand or mud,

0:08:51 > 0:08:53the fleshy parts then decay.

0:08:56 > 0:08:59And the mineral and organic elements of the bone

0:08:59 > 0:09:02are replaced by the minerals in the soil.

0:09:04 > 0:09:05In essence,

0:09:05 > 0:09:07they get turned to stone.

0:09:15 > 0:09:17But what if this wasn't the case?

0:09:19 > 0:09:23What if some of this biological material was still with us?

0:09:28 > 0:09:29The only way to find out

0:09:29 > 0:09:31would be to look inside the bones...

0:09:33 > 0:09:35..to conduct a dinosaur autopsy.

0:09:41 > 0:09:43And that's exactly what's going on here.

0:09:47 > 0:09:50A dinosaur leg bone is being cut up for analysis...

0:09:55 > 0:09:58..in a process known as histology.

0:10:01 > 0:10:04The bone then needs to be carved into thin slices...

0:10:07 > 0:10:12..and embedded in plastic so it can be examined under a microscope.

0:10:13 > 0:10:16It's a bit like cutting down a tree and looking at the rings.

0:10:18 > 0:10:20They reveal how fast or slowly the tree grew.

0:10:24 > 0:10:28And you can see the same kind of pattern in dinosaur bones.

0:10:31 > 0:10:33Is this the first femur?

0:10:34 > 0:10:38It was pioneered by Mary's mentor and the world's leading dinosaur scientist,

0:10:38 > 0:10:40Dr Jack Horner.

0:10:41 > 0:10:42Let's say that section.

0:10:42 > 0:10:46'Looking at the bone histology of dinosaurs'

0:10:46 > 0:10:52and looking at babies and juveniles and some adults,

0:10:52 > 0:10:54we've learned that

0:10:54 > 0:11:01when baby dinosaurs hatched out of their eggs, they grew really fast.

0:11:01 > 0:11:03Do you know what side it is yet?

0:11:04 > 0:11:07'They had sustained high growth periods.'

0:11:07 > 0:11:09INDISTINCT CHATTER

0:11:09 > 0:11:12'If you hatch out of the egg at a half a metre long,'

0:11:12 > 0:11:14you're not very big.

0:11:14 > 0:11:17And if you're going to grow to the size of a house,

0:11:17 > 0:11:18you'd better get busy.

0:11:18 > 0:11:20And that's all I can say

0:11:20 > 0:11:24because the longer you are small, the longer you're vulnerable.

0:11:30 > 0:11:32Mary started out as Jack's student.

0:11:35 > 0:11:40And back in 1991, he gave her pieces of a T-rex leg bone to analyse.

0:11:44 > 0:11:46At first, there appeared to be nothing out of the ordinary

0:11:46 > 0:11:48about this bone.

0:11:51 > 0:11:54But THIS bone turned out to be rather special.

0:11:57 > 0:11:58Because what she was looking at,

0:11:58 > 0:12:01when she placed the slide under the microscope,

0:12:01 > 0:12:03had never been seen before.

0:12:19 > 0:12:23Staring back at her was something that shouldn't have been there.

0:12:25 > 0:12:27It looked like a red blood cell.

0:12:30 > 0:12:34And its chemical composition included a heme -

0:12:34 > 0:12:37a part of haemoglobin which helps carry oxygen in blood

0:12:37 > 0:12:39and gives it its red colour.

0:12:43 > 0:12:46MARY: I was shocked, I was really surprised.

0:12:49 > 0:12:53The thing that was cool about it is we know very little, really,

0:12:53 > 0:12:56about these beasts that once walked on the surface of our planet.

0:12:56 > 0:13:01And all vertebrate organisms except, well, almost all,

0:13:01 > 0:13:04except for mammals, have nucleated red blood cells.

0:13:04 > 0:13:08And these things that I was seeing in the vessel channels of the bone

0:13:08 > 0:13:11were nucleated. They were translucent red with a dark centre.

0:13:33 > 0:13:37This evidence seemed to suggest that organic matter could in some way

0:13:37 > 0:13:40survive the process of fossilisation.

0:13:49 > 0:13:51And what was so exciting about it...

0:13:52 > 0:13:57..is that the new tools and technology of molecular biology

0:13:57 > 0:14:01might now be used to understand these long-vanished creatures.

0:14:09 > 0:14:12'It opened the door to the possibility that we could begin to understand

0:14:12 > 0:14:17'the function and the physiology of dinosaurs in a different way.

0:14:17 > 0:14:23If we could get at the elemental molecular structure,

0:14:23 > 0:14:26that's where the real evolutionary information is housed.

0:14:26 > 0:14:31And so being able to recover those things from a dinosaur

0:14:31 > 0:14:36would open the door to understanding them at a completely different level.

0:14:45 > 0:14:49She now set out to look for other evidence.

0:14:49 > 0:14:51That's if there was anything else to recover.

0:15:12 > 0:15:15Mary's new techniques now started to play into

0:15:15 > 0:15:18one of the most long-standing questions in palaeontology.

0:15:21 > 0:15:24Just what kind of creatures were dinosaurs?

0:15:28 > 0:15:32For decades, scientists relied on unearthing clues from the bones -

0:15:32 > 0:15:33the anatomy.

0:15:35 > 0:15:39And for the people who invented palaeontology in the 19th century...

0:15:40 > 0:15:44..the bones they saw mostly looked like giant lizards.

0:15:48 > 0:15:52It wasn't just the size of the bones - they're obviously colossal.

0:15:52 > 0:15:56It was the teeth that really helped them understand

0:15:56 > 0:15:58what sort of creatures dinosaurs were.

0:16:02 > 0:16:05- DR HORNER:- The teeth that they were finding were very similar,

0:16:05 > 0:16:10or at least somewhat similar, to lizards.

0:16:10 > 0:16:12And in particular,

0:16:12 > 0:16:17one was particularly close to an iguana lizard.

0:16:17 > 0:16:22And so they didn't have much of the skeleton of the dinosaur

0:16:22 > 0:16:24but they knew what an iguana lizard looks like

0:16:24 > 0:16:27and an iguana lizard is a reptile.

0:16:29 > 0:16:33But for modern scientists, the teeth are now seen as a distraction.

0:16:34 > 0:16:36A more comprehensive analysis of their skeletons

0:16:36 > 0:16:40suggests they're not related to lizards, but birds.

0:16:43 > 0:16:47And there's one bone in particular, familiar from the dinner table,

0:16:47 > 0:16:49that's helped to prove the case.

0:16:51 > 0:16:55It's a very special bone called the furcula.

0:16:55 > 0:17:00And the furcula we find in meat-eating dinosaurs

0:17:00 > 0:17:04is otherwise known as the wishbone.

0:17:05 > 0:17:11And so when we think about what characteristics define a bird -

0:17:11 > 0:17:18the wishbone, hollow bones, feathers, hard-shelled eggs,

0:17:18 > 0:17:21I mean, there's a whole list of them.

0:17:21 > 0:17:25And what's interesting is, through the ages we've discovered

0:17:25 > 0:17:30that dinosaurs actually invented all of those characteristics.

0:17:30 > 0:17:33Dinosaurs had all of those characteristics...

0:17:34 > 0:17:37..those that we consider bird characteristics.

0:18:00 > 0:18:03Anatomy has helped to establish the size, weight,

0:18:03 > 0:18:05even the strength of dinosaurs.

0:18:08 > 0:18:11But on questions of their bird-like biology -

0:18:11 > 0:18:15the colour of their skin, whether they were warm- or cold-blooded,

0:18:15 > 0:18:18even how they evolved -

0:18:18 > 0:18:19the bones are silent.

0:18:50 > 0:18:55Making them talk would require luck, skill

0:18:55 > 0:18:57and knowing the right people.

0:19:06 > 0:19:08This is Bob Harmon.

0:19:09 > 0:19:12For decades, he's worked closely with Jack Horner.

0:19:13 > 0:19:16And he's something of a legend in palaeontology.

0:19:19 > 0:19:23He has a special gift for sniffing out fossils.

0:19:25 > 0:19:29And back in 2000, there was something about the lay of the land

0:19:29 > 0:19:33in the Hell's Creek area of Montana that looked promising.

0:19:39 > 0:19:43One day, I came to this one area, kind of a box canyon type area,

0:19:43 > 0:19:47and I actually sat down to eat my lunch

0:19:47 > 0:19:51and figure out how to get up to this next cliff I was going to look at.

0:19:51 > 0:19:53So I was eating lunch, turned around, looked,

0:19:53 > 0:19:58and here's a bleached-out white bone sticking out of the cliff.

0:19:59 > 0:20:00So...

0:20:00 > 0:20:04And then I got to looking a little farther and I could see it,

0:20:04 > 0:20:08the cross-section of a tyrannosaur vertebrate.

0:20:08 > 0:20:10It has a very distinct shape,

0:20:10 > 0:20:12something we look for when we're out prospecting.

0:20:12 > 0:20:15It's a honeycomb shape.

0:20:15 > 0:20:17So when you see that, you get all excited

0:20:17 > 0:20:19cos it's probably a T-rex.

0:20:19 > 0:20:22You know, heart started beating pretty good

0:20:22 > 0:20:24and then I start looking up and up and up

0:20:24 > 0:20:27at 50 feet of rock sitting on top of this bone.

0:20:27 > 0:20:31And pretty much just went, "My God, what have I done?" You know?

0:20:36 > 0:20:38That's because he knew he'd have to remove

0:20:38 > 0:20:41all of that 50 foot of rock to get at the fossil.

0:20:45 > 0:20:48It took them nearly three years' careful digging

0:20:48 > 0:20:50to extricate the whole skeleton.

0:20:53 > 0:20:55But there was another problem.

0:20:55 > 0:20:59The area was so remote - there were no roads in or out -

0:20:59 > 0:21:02that every single piece of it had to be choppered out.

0:21:07 > 0:21:12But one of the bones, a femur, was just too big to carry.

0:21:14 > 0:21:19And Bob had to do something he really didn't want to.

0:21:19 > 0:21:23I said, "Jeez, we are going to have to break this thing in half."

0:21:23 > 0:21:25And tyrannosaur bone does not break well.

0:21:25 > 0:21:27I mean, it's so dense, you know, it's hollow in the middle

0:21:27 > 0:21:30then it just shatters like glass when you break it.

0:21:30 > 0:21:33- So I knew it was going to be bad. - HE LAUGHS

0:21:33 > 0:21:37But I said, "OK. I don't think we have any choice. Let's just do it."

0:21:37 > 0:21:40So we broke it in half and it shattered all over.

0:21:44 > 0:21:48The bones get removed with the soil surrounding them.

0:21:48 > 0:21:51It's what the scientists call context.

0:21:53 > 0:21:58They still don't really know why but the Hell's Creek soil

0:21:58 > 0:22:01seems to have special preservation properties.

0:22:04 > 0:22:07And when some of these Hell's Creek bones are cracked open,

0:22:07 > 0:22:11there's something about them that marks them out as different.

0:22:13 > 0:22:16And it's got nothing to do with how they look.

0:22:18 > 0:22:20- JACK:- In many bones that are broken up,

0:22:20 > 0:22:23we do have a very biological smell.

0:22:23 > 0:22:29Kind of a...almost like oil or rotting something. Um...

0:22:29 > 0:22:30And, you know,

0:22:30 > 0:22:35it was certainly weird back in the days before we knew

0:22:35 > 0:22:37what it possibly was.

0:22:39 > 0:22:40As it turned out,

0:22:40 > 0:22:45this smell was a clue to what lay within the bones.

0:22:55 > 0:22:57This was just the kind of material

0:22:57 > 0:23:00Mary Schweitzer wanted to get her hands on.

0:23:09 > 0:23:12But it wasn't the smell of the fragments of T-rex femur

0:23:12 > 0:23:15that Jack sent her that set her pulse racing.

0:23:21 > 0:23:22It was how they looked.

0:23:25 > 0:23:29T-rex bones might appear solid but they're not.

0:23:29 > 0:23:31They are in fact hollow.

0:23:37 > 0:23:40But when she peered through the microscope,

0:23:40 > 0:23:42she saw something that shouldn't have been there.

0:23:44 > 0:23:45And this is it.

0:23:46 > 0:23:49The yellow area should have been hollow.

0:23:51 > 0:23:53The fossilised bone on the outside,

0:23:53 > 0:23:55which is all that remains of cortical bone,

0:23:55 > 0:23:57was all she expected to find.

0:23:58 > 0:24:02This tissue right here is what most dinosaur bone looks like.

0:24:02 > 0:24:03Everybody has this.

0:24:03 > 0:24:06This tissue right here had not been seen before.

0:24:14 > 0:24:19She saw what appeared to be a group of specialised cells.

0:24:19 > 0:24:21And these cells were utterly unique.

0:24:36 > 0:24:38They're only found in birds.

0:24:43 > 0:24:45And they use this tissue to make eggs.

0:24:49 > 0:24:52And that could only mean one thing.

0:24:55 > 0:24:56And I looked at it and I held it in my hand

0:24:56 > 0:24:58and I said to my technician,

0:24:58 > 0:25:00"Oh, my gosh, this is a girl and it's pregnant."

0:25:04 > 0:25:09If Mary really was looking at the bones of a pregnant T-rex,

0:25:09 > 0:25:12it'd be a first in palaeontology.

0:25:12 > 0:25:15But the microscope slide on its own wasn't enough.

0:25:18 > 0:25:20MARY: I love her wings from the back. Can you get that picture?

0:25:20 > 0:25:24MARY GIGGLES

0:25:24 > 0:25:25Ow!

0:25:25 > 0:25:29To be sure, she needed to compare it with the medullary bone

0:25:29 > 0:25:32from one of the most primitive birds still alive -

0:25:32 > 0:25:33the ostrich.

0:25:38 > 0:25:42Its evolutionary history can be traced back 23 million years.

0:25:48 > 0:25:52So just how does an ostrich compare with a dinosaur?

0:25:53 > 0:25:56I am in love. Look at this. Look at her wing.

0:25:56 > 0:26:00Can you see how the feather's attached to the skin?

0:26:00 > 0:26:02Look at, their arms are like T-rex...

0:26:04 > 0:26:07..with skin on. They're short, little, stubby things.

0:26:07 > 0:26:10But you see how the feathers are inserting into the skin like that?

0:26:14 > 0:26:15Do we have any more grapes?

0:26:18 > 0:26:20The problem was that she couldn't do the test

0:26:20 > 0:26:23on a living pregnant ostrich.

0:26:23 > 0:26:25She needed a dead one.

0:26:25 > 0:26:27So she put out a plea for help

0:26:27 > 0:26:30and fortunately a local ostrich farmer answered the call.

0:26:31 > 0:26:33He had a pregnant bird

0:26:33 > 0:26:36but it had been dead for over a week.

0:26:36 > 0:26:39I could definitely smell it before I could see it.

0:26:39 > 0:26:42It was all, you know, bloated from death and...

0:26:43 > 0:26:46..you touched the stomach and it kind of went "goosh!"

0:26:46 > 0:26:49It was so gross and it was really smelly.

0:26:49 > 0:26:51So I sawed the leg off

0:26:51 > 0:26:54and tasted really rotten ostrich meat for about two weeks after that,

0:26:54 > 0:26:55in my mouth.

0:26:55 > 0:26:58But it was really gross and he had a whole bunch more ostriches

0:26:58 > 0:27:00so they were all kind of standing around me in a circle,

0:27:00 > 0:27:02watching as I dismembered their friend

0:27:02 > 0:27:04and I felt a little weird about that.

0:27:13 > 0:27:15Holding her nose, she took the bone back into the lab

0:27:15 > 0:27:17and placed it under a microscope.

0:27:22 > 0:27:24And what she saw was ground-breaking.

0:27:27 > 0:27:30The pregnant ostrich had medullary bone

0:27:30 > 0:27:34and in exactly the same position as the pregnant T-rex.

0:27:37 > 0:27:40It was really cool that we had a pregnant dinosaur

0:27:40 > 0:27:43but this had been predicted and it was just verifying that,

0:27:43 > 0:27:45you know, if birds and dinosaurs

0:27:45 > 0:27:50were as closely related as we had been thinking, as a field,

0:27:50 > 0:27:52it should have been there.

0:27:59 > 0:28:02It was the first time that anyone had ever been able

0:28:02 > 0:28:04to establish the sex of a dinosaur.

0:28:09 > 0:28:10And it confirmed the importance

0:28:10 > 0:28:13of trying to understand the biology of these ancient creatures.

0:28:21 > 0:28:24MARY: I couldn't believe it. It was, you know, it was just a gift.

0:28:27 > 0:28:30In my kind of palaeontology, everybody's eyes glass over.

0:28:30 > 0:28:33If you want to go to a talk on palaeontology

0:28:33 > 0:28:39you think field pictures and badlands and really pretty...dinosaurs.

0:28:39 > 0:28:41And I study under the microscope.

0:28:41 > 0:28:44So this was exciting in that I thought, "Well,

0:28:44 > 0:28:46"maybe this is the time I can really contribute to the field

0:28:46 > 0:28:50"in a way that my colleagues will understand and care about."

0:28:50 > 0:28:52Rather than just letting Mary do her own weird thing!

0:28:52 > 0:28:54So, yeah, I was excited.

0:29:03 > 0:29:05One of the first implications of her work

0:29:05 > 0:29:09was to make the biological case that dinosaurs were indeed birds.

0:29:12 > 0:29:15MARY: They're so fun!

0:29:15 > 0:29:16See their feet?

0:29:18 > 0:29:21And Mary, along with other scientists,

0:29:21 > 0:29:23has been figuring out what this might mean

0:29:23 > 0:29:26for how we see these iconic animals.

0:29:26 > 0:29:27He's so pretty.

0:29:30 > 0:29:33For a start, it would be difficult to read their expressions.

0:29:36 > 0:29:40Well, if you notice their skulls, their head, it's just...

0:29:40 > 0:29:42skin stretched over the bone.

0:29:43 > 0:29:49And so they don't have the muscles, they don't have the additional fat.

0:29:49 > 0:29:52And that's what gives animals expression like your dog

0:29:52 > 0:29:54that looks at you with the cocked head and the ears

0:29:54 > 0:29:57and the little furrow in its brow.

0:29:57 > 0:29:59These guys aren't capable of doing that.

0:30:00 > 0:30:04They don't convey any emotion at all.

0:30:04 > 0:30:08And if you look directly in his eye, it almost looks dead.

0:30:12 > 0:30:15That's what they might look like in a one-on-one

0:30:15 > 0:30:19but what about collectively, when they're all gathered together?

0:30:20 > 0:30:24- DR HORNER:- I think that when we're imagining dinosaurs on a plain,

0:30:24 > 0:30:28we have to really think of them like flocks of birds,

0:30:28 > 0:30:33walking and then shifting and then, you know, I mean just, you know,

0:30:33 > 0:30:36Not just mulling around like mammals do.

0:30:36 > 0:30:39I mean, mammals are just sort of mulling around.

0:30:39 > 0:30:43Birds, you know, really have some, you know,

0:30:43 > 0:30:47some overall shape to their groups.

0:30:47 > 0:30:51I mean, they all are travelling in one area and then they shift

0:30:51 > 0:30:54and, I mean, it's just very different.

0:30:57 > 0:31:01And what about the best-known dinosaur of all,

0:31:01 > 0:31:02T-rex?

0:31:04 > 0:31:05What kind of bird was it?

0:31:07 > 0:31:12So, if we think about Tyrannosaurus with its bone-crushing teeth,

0:31:12 > 0:31:15I envision it to be much like a vulture.

0:31:17 > 0:31:21And when you think about a big vulture eating carcasses,

0:31:21 > 0:31:23they're nasty.

0:31:26 > 0:31:27He wants to eat me for lunch.

0:31:32 > 0:31:34SHE SHRIEKS

0:31:43 > 0:31:47That was my Velociraptor experience. That's as close as I want to have.

0:31:47 > 0:31:48Look at, there he goes again.

0:31:48 > 0:31:50SHE LAUGHS

0:31:50 > 0:31:53I think there would be no hesitation, no pulling back.

0:31:53 > 0:31:56And I think once they decide they want you for lunch,

0:31:56 > 0:31:59you might as well just give up.

0:31:59 > 0:32:01Ooh!

0:32:05 > 0:32:08All this started to show that her work,

0:32:08 > 0:32:12hunting for organic matter within ancient fossils,

0:32:12 > 0:32:16had the potential to really transform our understanding

0:32:16 > 0:32:17of dinosaurs.

0:32:23 > 0:32:26The next step, the most important one,

0:32:26 > 0:32:29came from re-examining the basics of bone biology.

0:32:35 > 0:32:38Bone is a composite. It's like plywood.

0:32:38 > 0:32:42It has a hard part, which is the minerals that make up bone,

0:32:42 > 0:32:45and it has a soft part, which is the collagen.

0:32:45 > 0:32:48So bone is both protein and it's mineral.

0:32:48 > 0:32:51And when you put the two together, it gives it great strength.

0:32:51 > 0:32:55But it is alive and the cells that are part of bone maintain it

0:32:55 > 0:32:57and they give it nutrients

0:32:57 > 0:33:00and they continue to just maintain the bone as living structure.

0:33:03 > 0:33:06Take away the mineral element of this chicken bone

0:33:06 > 0:33:09by sticking it in an acid bath and all you're left with

0:33:09 > 0:33:12is the bendy, flexible, collagen, protein part.

0:33:14 > 0:33:15So Mary wondered,

0:33:15 > 0:33:19could you find that organic material in a T-rex fossil?

0:33:20 > 0:33:23We have always assumed that all of the organics go away.

0:33:23 > 0:33:27And so what you're left with is basically a mineral morph.

0:33:27 > 0:33:30And it's got lots of holes in it where the protein used to sit,

0:33:30 > 0:33:31where the blood vessels used to run

0:33:31 > 0:33:34and the little houses where the bone cells are,

0:33:34 > 0:33:35that's all empty now.

0:33:35 > 0:33:38So, I mean, if we're right about that process

0:33:38 > 0:33:42then if you remove the mineral, you should have nothing left. Right?

0:33:42 > 0:33:43Because the organics are already gone.

0:33:47 > 0:33:50So she set up a deceptively simple experiment.

0:33:52 > 0:33:56She dropped the T-rex fossil, packed full of medullary bone,

0:33:56 > 0:33:57in an acid bath...

0:34:00 > 0:34:02..and left it overnight.

0:34:13 > 0:34:16When her assistant came back to check in the morning,

0:34:16 > 0:34:18something remarkable had happened.

0:34:19 > 0:34:22Something that didn't seem possible.

0:34:24 > 0:34:27The process went faster than either of us predicted.

0:34:27 > 0:34:31And so when she went to stop it by taking the piece of medullary bone

0:34:31 > 0:34:34and putting it in water, she went to pick it up with her tweezers

0:34:34 > 0:34:36and it went like that...

0:34:41 > 0:34:45And she called me immediately and said, "Something's really wrong."

0:34:45 > 0:34:48And, you know, I mean, I had the same expectation as anyone else -

0:34:48 > 0:34:51if you dissolve away your dinosaur bone,

0:34:51 > 0:34:53you're going to have nothing left.

0:34:53 > 0:34:54But we did.

0:34:58 > 0:35:01And this is what it looked like under a microscope.

0:35:05 > 0:35:10In a sense, she was able to reach back through 68 million years

0:35:10 > 0:35:12and touch a dinosaur.

0:35:22 > 0:35:24And not just any dinosaur -

0:35:24 > 0:35:29this was a soft, pliable piece of a T-rex.

0:35:36 > 0:35:39So, we saw this, where basically this is the medullary bone

0:35:39 > 0:35:41with the mineral removed.

0:35:42 > 0:35:46And you can see...see the blood vessels inside the bone?

0:35:46 > 0:35:49They stretch with the matrix themselves.

0:35:49 > 0:35:52This was really hard to hang on to!

0:35:52 > 0:35:53But there you go, you see it stretch?

0:35:55 > 0:36:01This was a combination of my absolute worst nightmare and Christmas,

0:36:01 > 0:36:03every day in the lab for about a month.

0:36:03 > 0:36:05I couldn't wait to get to work

0:36:05 > 0:36:08but I was scared to death at what had happened overnight.

0:36:08 > 0:36:13Um...it was, you know, goosebump-inducing -

0:36:13 > 0:36:16just about everything that we saw.

0:36:16 > 0:36:17It was...

0:36:17 > 0:36:18I can't even explain it

0:36:18 > 0:36:21and I know I'll never have that experience again

0:36:21 > 0:36:22but it was magic - just magic.

0:36:40 > 0:36:42Finding the soft tissue

0:36:42 > 0:36:45opened the door to a new world of possibilities.

0:36:51 > 0:36:55She now set out to do something that no-one had ever done before...

0:36:59 > 0:37:04..to try and find proteins - the building blocks of life.

0:37:09 > 0:37:11She started with this T-rex bone cell.

0:37:12 > 0:37:15If there was a chemical signature of ancient proteins,

0:37:15 > 0:37:17it should be hidden away inside.

0:37:21 > 0:37:24Because birds are descended from dinosaurs,

0:37:24 > 0:37:26the chicken would be the key to this quest.

0:37:31 > 0:37:34Mary took a classic tool of modern biology,

0:37:34 > 0:37:37one that helps to identify proteins in chicken bones,

0:37:37 > 0:37:42and she applied this same test to the T-rex soft tissue.

0:37:55 > 0:37:57If there were no proteins in the cell,

0:37:57 > 0:38:00the slide on the right would remain black.

0:38:01 > 0:38:05Anything green would be a sign of life.

0:38:17 > 0:38:21The green glow made palaeontological history.

0:38:24 > 0:38:27It was very exciting, yes. I was very happy.

0:38:27 > 0:38:29Very cool!

0:38:45 > 0:38:48When it was first published in 2005,

0:38:48 > 0:38:50this research wasn't universally accepted.

0:38:53 > 0:38:56Some scientists said her samples might be contaminated.

0:38:57 > 0:38:58Others were dismissive.

0:39:00 > 0:39:03Because I was a middle-aged housewife from Bozeman, Montana -

0:39:03 > 0:39:05I had no credentials at all.

0:39:05 > 0:39:10And I think that...I think that came into play.

0:39:10 > 0:39:13I know it came into play later.

0:39:13 > 0:39:16Um...yeah.

0:39:16 > 0:39:19I had a reviewer on one of my papers once say

0:39:19 > 0:39:24that he didn't care what the data said, he knew it wasn't possible.

0:39:24 > 0:39:29And for me, it's like, if you can't be convinced by data,

0:39:29 > 0:39:31then how is this science?

0:39:35 > 0:39:36But over the past decade,

0:39:36 > 0:39:39her work at the North Carolina State University

0:39:39 > 0:39:41is gaining acceptance.

0:39:44 > 0:39:47She's ruled out the possibility of contamination

0:39:47 > 0:39:51and painstakingly analysed other dinosaur bones.

0:39:56 > 0:39:58And she's gone even further,

0:39:58 > 0:40:03potentially turning Hollywood fantasy into scientific reality.

0:40:04 > 0:40:10She's taken some of the cells from the 68 million-year-old soft T-rex tissue

0:40:10 > 0:40:13and began to look for the impossible -

0:40:13 > 0:40:15DNA.

0:40:20 > 0:40:24You know what, if you have cells, if you have soft tissue,

0:40:24 > 0:40:27if you have proteins,

0:40:27 > 0:40:29why rule out DNA?

0:40:35 > 0:40:40So she took a single T-rex bone cell and ran a series of chemical tests

0:40:40 > 0:40:42using a classic DNA staining procedure.

0:40:49 > 0:40:53If the DNA was present in the cell, it would show up in yellow.

0:41:01 > 0:41:02And astonishingly,

0:41:02 > 0:41:04it did.

0:41:08 > 0:41:11You can see there's this little light point right here,

0:41:11 > 0:41:14that's internal to the cell membrane - it's inside the cell.

0:41:14 > 0:41:17It's very specific, a single point.

0:41:19 > 0:41:23We have a visual signal of something that chemically reacts like DNA.

0:41:29 > 0:41:33It looks like it, it acts like it, it smells like it, you know, yeah!

0:41:36 > 0:41:38If I didn't tell you where those cells came from

0:41:38 > 0:41:41but I told you the chemistry of what we did, you'd say, "Yeah. Yeah, so?

0:41:41 > 0:41:44"It should be there. It's a bone cell, for Pete's sakes."

0:41:54 > 0:41:58Now, if I tell you it's a dinosaur bone cell, all bets are off

0:41:58 > 0:42:03because everyone knows that DNA can't persist for 65 million years.

0:42:03 > 0:42:06I personally think that DNA is way more hardy

0:42:06 > 0:42:08than people give it credit for.

0:42:14 > 0:42:17But the challenge now is to try and sequence it.

0:42:19 > 0:42:22This will allow her to see how the genes fit together

0:42:22 > 0:42:26and figure out their exact biological function.

0:42:30 > 0:42:32I don't believe that you should publish

0:42:32 > 0:42:34if you just have one line of evidence.

0:42:34 > 0:42:37Especially not something like this in a field full of controversy,

0:42:37 > 0:42:41like ancient DNA. I want lots and lots of evidence.

0:42:41 > 0:42:45And so if we were ever to get to the point where we could sequence it,

0:42:45 > 0:42:48and that may be problematic for several reasons,

0:42:48 > 0:42:50I want to be able to say,

0:42:50 > 0:42:52"We've got the chemistry to back it up."

0:42:54 > 0:42:59This is proving really difficult because the fragments of DNA she has

0:42:59 > 0:43:01are very small and degraded.

0:43:02 > 0:43:05So there's a lot more work still to do.

0:43:06 > 0:43:08But there's one thing for sure -

0:43:08 > 0:43:12this new approach to studying dinosaurs is set to continue.

0:43:13 > 0:43:20There's a sort of a shift now to look at bones from the inside out.

0:43:21 > 0:43:26Where people generally thought of bones as being really precious,

0:43:26 > 0:43:30we're now realising that there's more information inside

0:43:30 > 0:43:31than there is on the outside.

0:43:31 > 0:43:33- This one?- No.

0:43:33 > 0:43:37Finding this material has recently become much more difficult.

0:43:40 > 0:43:45This is Sue, the most complete T-rex ever discovered.

0:43:49 > 0:43:52And the story of how this dinosaur ended up here in this room

0:43:52 > 0:43:56takes us to the heart of why getting ancient biological material

0:43:56 > 0:43:57is so problematic.

0:44:00 > 0:44:03And I begin with a bid of 500,000.

0:44:03 > 0:44:05Now bidding at 500,000, Now bidding at 500.

0:44:05 > 0:44:07600,000. 700,000, now.

0:44:07 > 0:44:09At 900,000, now bidding at 9.

0:44:09 > 0:44:12At 900,000 now. Two bids at 1 million.

0:44:12 > 0:44:15It all started in the auction room of Sotheby's in New York

0:44:15 > 0:44:17when Sue was put up for sale.

0:44:17 > 0:44:195 million.

0:44:19 > 0:44:21THE CROWD GASP

0:44:21 > 0:44:235.3 in a new place.

0:44:23 > 0:44:26It fetched 7.6 million.

0:44:28 > 0:44:30Seven million six hundred...

0:44:48 > 0:44:51The Fields Museum, in Chicago, bought it.

0:44:51 > 0:44:55And Sue, named after the woman who found her,

0:44:55 > 0:44:58now occupies pride of place in the main exhibition room.

0:45:07 > 0:45:12Suddenly, Sue's sale price sparked a dinosaur gold rush.

0:45:18 > 0:45:21- Tell what you got.- It's...

0:45:21 > 0:45:25But the commercialisation of collecting is a major problem

0:45:25 > 0:45:28for scientists like Mary Schweitzer and Jack Horner.

0:45:30 > 0:45:34'When people are in the business of selling something,'

0:45:34 > 0:45:38they're in the business of making as much money as they can.

0:45:38 > 0:45:41And therefore, the specimen is all that matters.

0:45:41 > 0:45:44So the specimen is what they're going to sell.

0:45:44 > 0:45:46Wouldn't we just plan on, you know, taking that off

0:45:46 > 0:45:48and leaving the thing in the jacket?

0:45:48 > 0:45:51'The scientific data that comes with the specimen

0:45:51 > 0:45:54'when it's in the ground is overhead.'

0:45:54 > 0:45:59In other words, it costs them money to get it

0:45:59 > 0:46:02and therefore they will make less if they get it.

0:46:02 > 0:46:05Have you seen the other side of that pubis?

0:46:05 > 0:46:07Is it good bone on the other side?

0:46:07 > 0:46:10'So the problem is, is that, you know, when we want

0:46:10 > 0:46:13'to study dinosaurs and learn about them as living animals,

0:46:13 > 0:46:15'we have to have that data.'

0:46:15 > 0:46:20And so a commercially collected dinosaur is useless to science.

0:46:31 > 0:46:33The pressure from private collectors

0:46:33 > 0:46:36has forced dinosaur scientists to scour the globe

0:46:36 > 0:46:38in search of pristine fossils.

0:46:45 > 0:46:48Preservation is of course the key for Mary.

0:46:49 > 0:46:54And one of the most promising places she's found is here in Mongolia.

0:46:56 > 0:46:59The evidence is locked away in a specially constructed building

0:46:59 > 0:47:03in the middle of the main square of the nation's capital, Ulan Bator.

0:47:07 > 0:47:11It's quite the specimen you found...

0:47:11 > 0:47:15- Yeah.- ..brought back here. - Yeah.- It's home at last.- Exactly.

0:47:16 > 0:47:20- Mongolians are very happy to see the dinosaur.- He's beautiful.

0:47:23 > 0:47:27Occupying pride of place is a Tarbosaurus bataar,

0:47:27 > 0:47:30an Asian relative of T-rex,

0:47:30 > 0:47:33recently returned to the country after it was stolen.

0:47:35 > 0:47:39Doctor Bolor Minjin, one of Mongolia's leading palaeontologists,

0:47:39 > 0:47:43has invited Mary Schweitzer to see it in all its glory.

0:47:45 > 0:47:48- It's amazing, the colour of the bones.- Yeah.

0:47:48 > 0:47:51That's very different than what we have back home.

0:47:51 > 0:47:55All the pictures I've seen of Gobi bone show it like this, like white.

0:47:55 > 0:47:59- Mm-hm.- Not discoloured like we have back home.- Oh, yeah.

0:47:59 > 0:48:02- You know, T-rex is much darker colour.- Yeah.

0:48:02 > 0:48:06- Yeah, mahogany-coloured almost. - Exactly. So it's much lighter. - Mm-hm.

0:48:06 > 0:48:11The bones usually take on the colour of the sediments that they're from.

0:48:11 > 0:48:15- Right.- And since this probably comes from more red sediment...- Yes,

0:48:15 > 0:48:20- a lot iron-rich. - ..and the colour is so white...- Yeah.

0:48:20 > 0:48:23..that's got to be because it's such a dry environment

0:48:23 > 0:48:27that you don't have the transfer between the sediment and the bone...

0:48:27 > 0:48:28- Yeah.- ..as much as you do back home.

0:48:28 > 0:48:32I mean, that's an indicator that this might be really good

0:48:32 > 0:48:33for preservation of organics.

0:48:36 > 0:48:39But these bones are unfortunately useless to her.

0:48:41 > 0:48:44Any organics that might lurk inside them

0:48:44 > 0:48:45have been fatally compromised

0:48:45 > 0:48:49because they were excavated by looters, not scientists.

0:49:09 > 0:49:14To find the potentially well-preserved fossils she needs,

0:49:14 > 0:49:17Mary is taken by Dr Minjin to the Gobi Desert.

0:49:22 > 0:49:26This seemingly endless expanse of rough grass and sand

0:49:26 > 0:49:29is a dinosaur hunter's El Dorado.

0:49:41 > 0:49:45Out here is where the first fossilised nest of dinosaur eggs

0:49:45 > 0:49:46was discovered.

0:49:48 > 0:49:52And it's the first time ever that Dr Schweitzer's been here.

0:49:58 > 0:50:01I feel incredibly lucky.

0:50:01 > 0:50:05And I'm quite sure that most of my palaeo colleagues would be jealous.

0:50:05 > 0:50:11Because Mongolia holds a special magic for palaeontology

0:50:11 > 0:50:13as a community.

0:50:13 > 0:50:16It's, you know, it's the place where dinosaurs

0:50:16 > 0:50:19- first entered the public mindset. - Right.

0:50:19 > 0:50:22They were introduced to the American public, at least,

0:50:22 > 0:50:25- from Mongolia, from right here. - Mm-hm.

0:50:26 > 0:50:27- Yeah.- It's amazing.

0:50:32 > 0:50:34And this is where they're heading...

0:50:36 > 0:50:38..the place that's become the natural cathedral

0:50:38 > 0:50:40of dinosaur hunting...

0:50:43 > 0:50:46..the appropriately named Flaming Cliffs.

0:50:47 > 0:50:51- Wow.- Beautiful. - It is so pretty.- Yeah.

0:51:07 > 0:51:12It is an incredible honour to be here. It's magic.

0:51:12 > 0:51:16It's...hmm, I don't know.

0:51:16 > 0:51:19It's like going to Rome if you're a Catholic

0:51:19 > 0:51:24or going to Mecca if you're, you know, if you're a Muslim. It's...

0:51:24 > 0:51:26If you're a palaeontologist,

0:51:26 > 0:51:29this is one site that is in everyone's dreams.

0:51:35 > 0:51:38This area is so rich in fossils

0:51:38 > 0:51:41that they're virtually stumbling over ancient bones.

0:51:45 > 0:51:47MARY SIGHS

0:51:47 > 0:51:51- Hope there's something up here! - I hope so.

0:51:51 > 0:51:53- Make it all worthwhile.- Yep.

0:51:53 > 0:51:56Oh, look! Bolor.

0:51:56 > 0:51:59- Bone!- Oh, look at that. - Look, and more over here.

0:51:59 > 0:52:03That possibly looks like, kind of, skull. Could be.

0:52:03 > 0:52:05- Really?- Interesting shape. - Right here, you're right!

0:52:05 > 0:52:09- It does, see the way it bends? - Yeah. Oh, wow.

0:52:09 > 0:52:12- OK.- I need to get all the sand out of my shoes.

0:52:14 > 0:52:18- Oh, look.- Speaking of bone!- Yep!

0:52:18 > 0:52:20Nice!

0:52:20 > 0:52:24- Look at that.- Yeah.- Could be a jaw.

0:52:24 > 0:52:28- This almost looks skullish. - And look at this.

0:52:29 > 0:52:33- That looks like a cross-section of a long bone.- Yeah.

0:52:33 > 0:52:36- Amazing it can persist for this long.- Mm-hm.

0:52:41 > 0:52:45So why are these fossilised bones so white and seemingly well-preserved?

0:52:49 > 0:52:51The answer lies in the soil.

0:52:53 > 0:52:57The Gobi has been a desert since the time of the dinosaurs.

0:52:57 > 0:53:01It's been dry for more than 65 million years.

0:53:04 > 0:53:07And that's potentially good news for Mary,

0:53:07 > 0:53:10in her quest to find ancient organic material.

0:53:15 > 0:53:19Scientists think that wet soil pushes out organics from the fossil.

0:53:23 > 0:53:25The water effectively seeps through the bones,

0:53:25 > 0:53:27flushing the cells as it goes.

0:53:31 > 0:53:33And so if you have a very long protein,

0:53:33 > 0:53:37like a whole collagen molecule or a whole haemoglobin molecule,

0:53:37 > 0:53:41you put it in a wet environment and it gets broken up into little chunks.

0:53:41 > 0:53:42And of course the chunks

0:53:42 > 0:53:45are a lot easier to move away from muscle or from bone

0:53:45 > 0:53:48and into the environment, where they're lost for ever.

0:53:49 > 0:53:53In theory, if it's dry, the bone proteins, molecules

0:53:53 > 0:53:58and even possibly DNA should be better preserved.

0:54:00 > 0:54:02We think dry is good for preservation.

0:54:02 > 0:54:06A lot of the incredibly preserved mummies from Peru,

0:54:06 > 0:54:09they are preserved with their skin intact,

0:54:09 > 0:54:11the colour intact, the clothing intact

0:54:11 > 0:54:12because it's dry.

0:54:12 > 0:54:14I didn't see any at work...

0:54:14 > 0:54:19The problem is that around here, fossils are so easy to find.

0:54:21 > 0:54:24Now that might not seem like an obstacle but it is.

0:54:26 > 0:54:29It seems like if we saw it that easily,

0:54:29 > 0:54:31other people would too.

0:54:31 > 0:54:34- Yeah, the colour - it's very white. - It's very white.

0:54:34 > 0:54:37- I've never seen that. - And they're a distinct shape.- Yeah.

0:54:37 > 0:54:42You know, shape is the thing people really easily pick up.

0:54:42 > 0:54:44And if you know... if you're here to find bone

0:54:44 > 0:54:46- and you know anything at all about it...- Yeah.

0:54:46 > 0:54:48- Yeah.- Hmm.

0:54:48 > 0:54:51INDISTINCT CHATTER

0:54:54 > 0:54:56Not surprisingly, then,

0:54:56 > 0:55:00there has been a spate of fossil looting at this historic site.

0:55:00 > 0:55:01Oh, look at that.

0:55:03 > 0:55:06Looks very suspicious! Something...

0:55:06 > 0:55:10And the looters rarely take the trouble to cover their tracks.

0:55:10 > 0:55:11This is not good.

0:55:11 > 0:55:15- Who would leave something like that here?- Yeah.- What the heck is it?

0:55:15 > 0:55:19Strange bits of plastic, sometimes used as markers for a site,

0:55:19 > 0:55:21are scattered around these cliffs.

0:55:23 > 0:55:24Look.

0:55:25 > 0:55:27Oh, my gosh.

0:55:27 > 0:55:29Other clues include general litter,

0:55:29 > 0:55:33like these discarded plastic bottles.

0:55:33 > 0:55:36- Wow, long day. Huh?- Yeah!

0:55:36 > 0:55:39Sun is going down very soon.

0:55:40 > 0:55:43It all leads to the inevitable discovery

0:55:43 > 0:55:46of a tell-tale hole in the ground.

0:55:46 > 0:55:48Oh, look at here.

0:55:49 > 0:55:52- Yeah, that looks kind of weird. - This is clearly excavation.

0:55:52 > 0:55:55- Right there, see the sharp line? - Yeah.

0:55:55 > 0:55:59- That's exactly. Look at how perfect, you know?- Yeah.- This is not natural.

0:55:59 > 0:56:02- Could have been something available for science.- Yeah.

0:56:02 > 0:56:05- So this is what's happening here. - See the thing is, you know,

0:56:05 > 0:56:08when somebody takes something out of context like this, it's lost.

0:56:08 > 0:56:09- It's valueless.- Exactly....

0:56:09 > 0:56:12It might look pretty but you might as well go get a coffee table book.

0:56:12 > 0:56:16- Yeah.- It just... It's just not right.

0:56:34 > 0:56:37But things are changing here in Mongolia.

0:56:40 > 0:56:41The government is now planning

0:56:41 > 0:56:44to take much firmer action against the looters.

0:56:46 > 0:56:49And Mary has her own plan to help combat the problem.

0:56:49 > 0:56:52She's setting up a project with Bolor to mount a dig in the Gobi

0:56:52 > 0:56:55using all the techniques she's helped to pioneer.

0:57:01 > 0:57:04The fossil record is always surprising us

0:57:04 > 0:57:06with things that we said couldn't be preserved.

0:57:08 > 0:57:11Why not look a little deeper now that we have new technologies

0:57:11 > 0:57:14and maybe what we've said all along that couldn't last this long

0:57:14 > 0:57:16maybe does.

0:57:17 > 0:57:19And her ground-breaking work -

0:57:19 > 0:57:20the discovery of cells...

0:57:22 > 0:57:24..proteins...

0:57:25 > 0:57:27..and even possibly DNA...

0:57:29 > 0:57:33..is pioneering a new era in our understanding of dinosaurs.

0:57:40 > 0:57:44But even if she was able to find dinosaur DNA

0:57:44 > 0:57:47out here in the wilds of the Gobi,

0:57:47 > 0:57:51we might have to wait a very long time for a Hollywood ending.

0:57:56 > 0:57:59You know, if you want to build a dinosaur

0:57:59 > 0:58:02out of DNA you pull from a dinosaur bone,

0:58:02 > 0:58:05there are so many things that you have to answer.

0:58:05 > 0:58:08You know, you might get little chunks of DNA,

0:58:08 > 0:58:10maybe you might even get the whole genome.

0:58:10 > 0:58:12But it's going to be fragmented,

0:58:12 > 0:58:14it's going to be split up, it's going to be broken.

0:58:15 > 0:58:18So how are you going to piece it together in the right order?

0:58:18 > 0:58:20Because if you get chromosomes and genes in the wrong order,

0:58:20 > 0:58:21you're toast.

0:58:25 > 0:58:29It may not possible to bring a dinosaur back to life

0:58:29 > 0:58:32but Mary's bringing them closer to us than ever before.

0:58:35 > 0:58:37And the well-preserved remains

0:58:37 > 0:58:40which lie buried beneath these Flaming Cliffs

0:58:40 > 0:58:43might allow her to put even more flesh on the bones

0:58:43 > 0:58:47of the most fearsome and forbidding creatures ever to walk the earth.

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