Project Greenglow - The Quest for Gravity Control

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0:00:06 > 0:00:11This is the story of an incredible scientific adventure.

0:00:11 > 0:00:15Of an unlikely collection of scientists and engineers,

0:00:15 > 0:00:20dreamers and schemers, who attempted the impossible.

0:00:24 > 0:00:25To control gravity.

0:00:28 > 0:00:31Gravity is the fundamental force that holds us to the earth

0:00:31 > 0:00:36and binds the universe together, yet we still don't fully understand it.

0:00:36 > 0:00:41Gravity is the most mysterious of all the fundamental forces.

0:00:41 > 0:00:45The ultimate challenge I can think of as a scientist

0:00:45 > 0:00:46is to control gravity.

0:00:47 > 0:00:51The scientific quest triggered a race between rival corporations,

0:00:51 > 0:00:53governments, and military...

0:00:55 > 0:01:00It can destroy the missiles or remove them from their trajectory.

0:01:01 > 0:01:03..fuelled by the paranoid fear of missing

0:01:03 > 0:01:06the greatest technological advance in history.

0:01:08 > 0:01:14If just one that here works, if only partly, you won the jackpot!

0:01:14 > 0:01:19If this ever happened, it's going to change aerospace.

0:01:19 > 0:01:22The potential is so great, if I did not bring this to

0:01:22 > 0:01:26the attention of the Pentagon, oh, I would have been fired!

0:01:26 > 0:01:28The search for gravity control

0:01:28 > 0:01:32ranges from Washington to the streets of Eastern Europe,

0:01:32 > 0:01:37from the deserts of America to the furthest reaches of the cosmos.

0:01:37 > 0:01:39Dark energy has some sort of antigravity.

0:01:39 > 0:01:43We still don't know whether it's something that we can ever harness.

0:01:43 > 0:01:46Someone might wonder, why can't we build a machine with it?

0:01:46 > 0:01:49We just need to find the trick.

0:01:51 > 0:01:53Unlikely as it may seem,

0:01:53 > 0:01:57the story begins in a corner of Lancashire, near Blackpool,

0:01:57 > 0:02:01with a humble engineer who had a dream.

0:02:01 > 0:02:04It's only another force field, but wouldn't it be good

0:02:04 > 0:02:07if we could actually control it and do more?

0:02:07 > 0:02:10If the dream of gravity control ever came true, it would

0:02:10 > 0:02:14revolutionise the world and could send us to the stars.

0:02:16 > 0:02:18PEOPLE WHOOP AND SCREAM

0:02:48 > 0:02:51In the late 1980s, aerospace engineer Ron Evans

0:02:51 > 0:02:54was working in the defence industry in Lancashire.

0:02:57 > 0:03:00He'd been trying to find a way to detect stealth bombers

0:03:00 > 0:03:02using fluctuations in gravity...

0:03:04 > 0:03:07..and he wondered if he could take it even further.

0:03:09 > 0:03:12Could he use gravity to levitate a plane?

0:03:14 > 0:03:17Of course, it was impossible, but Ron did something

0:03:17 > 0:03:22a bit reckless - he asked his employer if they'd let him try.

0:03:24 > 0:03:26Ron's employer was the biggest defence

0:03:26 > 0:03:30and aerospace contractor in Europe - BAE Systems.

0:03:33 > 0:03:37And instead of telling him to have a cup of tea and a lie down,

0:03:37 > 0:03:39they listened.

0:03:39 > 0:03:43I had to go to the head of the technology board -

0:03:43 > 0:03:47it's a panel - and persuade them that it was worth doing.

0:03:47 > 0:03:50Now, clearly, it was very speculative.

0:03:50 > 0:03:53I had to go away and come up with some concepts

0:03:53 > 0:03:57and come up with some ideas that could actually feature

0:03:57 > 0:04:00an antigravity or a gravity-type propulsion system.

0:04:00 > 0:04:04Well, this was one of the designs that we came up with.

0:04:04 > 0:04:07For a start, it wouldn't be limited to just flying in the air.

0:04:07 > 0:04:12It could fly anywhere - into space, even into water.

0:04:12 > 0:04:14And of course, it was a vertical takeoff design

0:04:14 > 0:04:16because it had a gravity engine inside

0:04:16 > 0:04:20but it didn't look very exciting, and so...

0:04:20 > 0:04:24we asked the artist to put some green rays underneath.

0:04:24 > 0:04:26That made it look far more futuristic.

0:04:27 > 0:04:30Let's be clear that not everyone in the company

0:04:30 > 0:04:31thought we should be doing it.

0:04:31 > 0:04:35There were quite a few that felt, we make aircraft,

0:04:35 > 0:04:37we're good at it and that's what we should be doing.

0:04:37 > 0:04:41But there were a few - and some very senior people - that felt,

0:04:41 > 0:04:45OK, let's just have a little look at the future.

0:04:45 > 0:04:47And the concept became known as Greenglow.

0:04:53 > 0:04:57As head of Project Greenglow, Ron's job was to find

0:04:57 > 0:05:02and develop advanced propulsion systems to overcome gravity.

0:05:02 > 0:05:05The potential was enormous, if it happened.

0:05:05 > 0:05:08It would totally change aerospace.

0:05:08 > 0:05:11And Ron was not alone.

0:05:16 > 0:05:19At around the same time, in the US,

0:05:19 > 0:05:24NASA began a parallel project headed by aerospace engineer Marc Millis.

0:05:26 > 0:05:29It was around 1996 when I was asked to lead

0:05:29 > 0:05:32the Breakthrough Propulsion Physics Project -

0:05:32 > 0:05:36things like non-rocket space drives,

0:05:36 > 0:05:39interstellar propulsion and manipulating gravity,

0:05:39 > 0:05:41things like that.

0:05:41 > 0:05:44For that project, the idea was to think radical, think big.

0:05:46 > 0:05:48However, today,

0:05:48 > 0:05:51NASA says it has moved on and doesn't want to look back.

0:05:53 > 0:05:55We can't go in there to talk about it now

0:05:55 > 0:05:57because NASA's not doing that work right now.

0:06:05 > 0:06:08At BAE Systems, the same situation.

0:06:09 > 0:06:13The company no longer wants to discuss Project Greenglow.

0:06:13 > 0:06:15We asked whether we could go there

0:06:15 > 0:06:18and talk to them about it and they just said no.

0:06:21 > 0:06:25Gravity control is a dark and dangerous science.

0:06:25 > 0:06:30Like modern-day alchemy, it promises a glittering prize,

0:06:30 > 0:06:32but it can destroy your reputation.

0:06:42 > 0:06:45Years earlier, Ron had watched a gravity experiment

0:06:45 > 0:06:48bring down one of Britain's best-known scientists...

0:06:48 > 0:06:51'This time, I call for a volunteer.'

0:06:51 > 0:06:54..professor of engineering at Imperial College London,

0:06:54 > 0:06:56Eric Laithwaite.

0:06:56 > 0:06:59'And then we're going to spin up the biggest gyro of the day,

0:06:59 > 0:07:01'which is here.'

0:07:01 > 0:07:03Like millions of others, Ron had been spellbound

0:07:03 > 0:07:07by Laithwaite's Christmas lecture at the Royal Institution in 1974.

0:07:09 > 0:07:10I can make him raise it.

0:07:12 > 0:07:14Now...

0:07:14 > 0:07:17Laithwaite suggested that by spinning a heavy wheel,

0:07:17 > 0:07:19he could make it counteract gravity.

0:07:21 > 0:07:23Ron has returned to the Royal Institution

0:07:23 > 0:07:25to try and recreate the effect.

0:07:25 > 0:07:27- Does it feel light?- It does.

0:07:27 > 0:07:33- It feels very light.- With the help of fellow engineer Dr Adam Wojcik.

0:07:33 > 0:07:35'What I think was at the back of Laithwaite's mind'

0:07:35 > 0:07:39was that there was a force in one direction more than in the other,

0:07:39 > 0:07:42and so the gyro will start to rise up.

0:07:43 > 0:07:48And that gives you the illusion as though it's losing weight. It isn't.

0:07:48 > 0:07:50It's just an illusion.

0:07:50 > 0:07:51But is it lighter?

0:07:53 > 0:07:57When the gyroscope is rotated in the same direction it's spinning,

0:07:57 > 0:07:59it's given an upward lift.

0:08:01 > 0:08:05- And if I rotate in the opposite sense...- Oh! That does look heavy.

0:08:05 > 0:08:08- Ooh, careful!- Wow!- Careful, careful!

0:08:08 > 0:08:11When it's rotated in the opposite direction,

0:08:11 > 0:08:14the opposite happens, and it seems to get heavier.

0:08:15 > 0:08:20Still hoping to make gravity control a subject of serious research,

0:08:20 > 0:08:23Laithwaite acknowledged his mistake.

0:08:23 > 0:08:27Yet his reputation was irreparably damaged.

0:08:27 > 0:08:31He was snubbed by the academic establishment

0:08:31 > 0:08:35and felt obliged to leave his position at the Royal Institution.

0:08:36 > 0:08:39Professor Laithwaite got into a lot of trouble with this,

0:08:39 > 0:08:45really, because of the claim that it got lighter, which is antigravity.

0:08:45 > 0:08:48And the academics jump on any antigravity device

0:08:48 > 0:08:51as being impossible.

0:08:51 > 0:08:52Well, it's not impossible.

0:08:52 > 0:08:56It's just we don't know how to do it. But we should look.

0:08:56 > 0:08:59It's like flight in the last century.

0:08:59 > 0:09:02In those days, anybody that said they could fly

0:09:02 > 0:09:03was looked upon as a lunatic!

0:09:10 > 0:09:13The difference is that, before humans could fly,

0:09:13 > 0:09:17we knew birds could. We could study aerodynamics.

0:09:19 > 0:09:21But there was nothing we knew of

0:09:21 > 0:09:23that could actually overcome gravity.

0:09:35 > 0:09:37The dream of lifting effortlessly from the earth

0:09:37 > 0:09:39is not confined to engineers.

0:09:41 > 0:09:42Despite being so contentious,

0:09:42 > 0:09:45many academics are rather seduced by the idea.

0:09:47 > 0:09:49Dr Tamara Davis is among them.

0:09:51 > 0:09:54From a little kid, I always wanted to go and visit other planets

0:09:54 > 0:09:56and go up into space.

0:09:56 > 0:09:58And to be able to have a form of propulsion

0:09:58 > 0:10:01that could get me there easily would be fantastic.

0:10:01 > 0:10:03But we don't yet know

0:10:03 > 0:10:07whether we can manipulate gravity or have any control over it.

0:10:08 > 0:10:12There is one fundamental force we know we CAN control,

0:10:12 > 0:10:17which we've used to build our modern world - electromagnetism.

0:10:19 > 0:10:23It gives us a tantalising illusion of gravity control...

0:10:24 > 0:10:25..when we levitate a magnet.

0:10:27 > 0:10:28Ta-da!

0:10:30 > 0:10:35Electromagnetic repulsion balances the weight of the magnet

0:10:35 > 0:10:39by using the same magnetic polarity in the base.

0:10:39 > 0:10:42We know that like charges repel.

0:10:42 > 0:10:46So here, we just have a magnetic field that's levitating a magnet.

0:10:46 > 0:10:50So this is nothing mysterious. This is just electromagnetism.

0:10:50 > 0:10:52Let's see if I can get this across.

0:10:54 > 0:10:55Come on!

0:10:58 > 0:11:01The power of control we get from electromagnetism lies in

0:11:01 > 0:11:04the fact that we can change its polarity

0:11:04 > 0:11:07and make it either repel or attract.

0:11:09 > 0:11:10So in electromagnetism,

0:11:10 > 0:11:13we have positive charges and negative charges.

0:11:13 > 0:11:15And they tend to attract each other.

0:11:19 > 0:11:21If you have a positive charge and a positive charge,

0:11:21 > 0:11:24it will repel from each other, but...

0:11:24 > 0:11:25wouldn't it be great

0:11:25 > 0:11:30if we could get gravity to work in reverse and be able to

0:11:30 > 0:11:32levitate things using gravity?

0:11:32 > 0:11:36Only problem is, there isn't any negative gravity,

0:11:36 > 0:11:39there isn't any antigravity that pushes.

0:11:39 > 0:11:41Gravity always pulls, as far as we know.

0:11:45 > 0:11:49The reason seems to be that, unlike electromagnetism,

0:11:49 > 0:11:53gravity has only one kind of polarity - positive.

0:11:55 > 0:11:57One mass is simply attracted to another.

0:12:00 > 0:12:05Gravity and electromagnetism are completely different forces.

0:12:05 > 0:12:09There's a very special property of gravity - that is that it adds up.

0:12:12 > 0:12:16Inside an atom, there's a positive nucleus surrounded by

0:12:16 > 0:12:22negative electrons, so the electromagnetic value cancels out,

0:12:22 > 0:12:26whereas there's nothing to cancel out its mass.

0:12:28 > 0:12:32So the force on one atom adds to the force on another atom,

0:12:32 > 0:12:36and so they generate an attractive gravitational force.

0:12:36 > 0:12:40So if you get enough of those atoms together, like in a planet

0:12:40 > 0:12:44or in a star, then the gravitational force is very strong.

0:12:47 > 0:12:49So gravity is different.

0:12:49 > 0:12:51It adds up as you increase the amount of matter

0:12:51 > 0:12:53in a way the other forces don't.

0:12:55 > 0:12:59For physicists like John Ellis, the dream of making a one-way force

0:12:59 > 0:13:03behave like a two-way force remains just that - a dream.

0:13:04 > 0:13:07The idea that you might be able to make antigravity

0:13:07 > 0:13:10is, of course, incredibly seductive.

0:13:10 > 0:13:14We particle theorists are also seduced by that, on occasion.

0:13:15 > 0:13:20But don't think it's going to be possible within my lifetime,

0:13:20 > 0:13:22your lifetime, anybody's lifetime.

0:13:33 > 0:13:35Yet back in 1996,

0:13:35 > 0:13:39a Russian scientist working in Finland claimed to have done

0:13:39 > 0:13:45the very thing the sceptics said was impossible - control gravity.

0:13:49 > 0:13:52Dr Eugene Podkletnov had been using a machine called a cryostat

0:13:52 > 0:13:54to cool electrical superconductors

0:13:54 > 0:13:57when something very strange happened.

0:13:59 > 0:14:02One evening, we were working with our cryostat,

0:14:02 > 0:14:07and one of my colleagues, who was leaving at that time,

0:14:07 > 0:14:09just came to the laboratory and said,

0:14:09 > 0:14:12"Guys, what are you doing here?"

0:14:12 > 0:14:15And we said, "Just working." And he was smoking his pipe.

0:14:15 > 0:14:17A very interesting person.

0:14:17 > 0:14:22It is, by the way, not allowed to smoke a pipe in the laboratory,

0:14:22 > 0:14:24but it was late in the evening.

0:14:25 > 0:14:28And he blew his pipe over the cryostat,

0:14:28 > 0:14:32and the smoke went close to the cryostat,

0:14:32 > 0:14:37hit some unseen barrier and, very fast, went up.

0:14:39 > 0:14:41And it was pretty amazing.

0:14:41 > 0:14:45He repeated this several times and said,

0:14:45 > 0:14:47"You are working with magic things!"

0:14:47 > 0:14:50And he left. So that was the beginning.

0:14:51 > 0:14:53After months of investigation,

0:14:53 > 0:14:59Podkletnov concluded that what he'd created was an antigravity field.

0:14:59 > 0:15:04So we have a vacuum chamber with a disc which can be rotated

0:15:04 > 0:15:07over 10,000 rotations per minute.

0:15:07 > 0:15:12And this is a weight sample, which can move freely over the disc.

0:15:14 > 0:15:17And when the disc reaches a certain speed of rotation,

0:15:17 > 0:15:23it exerts a repulsive force on the weight sample and pushes it up.

0:15:24 > 0:15:29In fact, this is a direct demonstration of the gravity fields.

0:15:29 > 0:15:33This gravity field is, in our case, repulsive,

0:15:33 > 0:15:37and, as you can see, the repulsive force is pretty big.

0:15:41 > 0:15:45Podkletnov published a paper in a popular science journal

0:15:45 > 0:15:48which caught the attention of Ron Evans at Greenglow.

0:15:52 > 0:15:56By now, the scale of Podkletnov's claim had sent red flags

0:15:56 > 0:16:01waving everywhere - including the Ministry of Defence.

0:16:01 > 0:16:07Out of the blue, from the MoD, I got a letter...

0:16:10 > 0:16:14..asking me what I made of the Podkletnov withdrawn paper.

0:16:14 > 0:16:19Well, at the time, I didn't know what to make of it - not a lot!

0:16:19 > 0:16:24Why should a spinning superconductor change gravity?

0:16:24 > 0:16:26It was just so odd

0:16:26 > 0:16:31that it never occurred to anybody before that it even should.

0:16:31 > 0:16:34And, of course, many of the academics said, "Impossible!"

0:16:34 > 0:16:39But what Podkletnov did was, having seen it, he explored it further.

0:16:39 > 0:16:43If you spot an anomaly, then you go and investigate it to see why.

0:16:44 > 0:16:49So we invited Podkletnov to come to BAE Systems at Walton,

0:16:49 > 0:16:53but we had to get special permission from the Ministry of Defence

0:16:53 > 0:16:55to allow him to come on site.

0:16:55 > 0:16:59And I think he was quite taken that a Russian was actually...

0:16:59 > 0:17:01The very first, and probably the only,

0:17:01 > 0:17:04Russian that's ever been allowed at our Walton site.

0:17:08 > 0:17:10Ron organised a team

0:17:10 > 0:17:13to try and recreate Podkletnov's breakthrough. But they didn't

0:17:13 > 0:17:18have the budget to work with the highly specialised superconductor.

0:17:18 > 0:17:22We couldn't replicate what he'd done, so we couldn't say yes,

0:17:22 > 0:17:24he had found an effect, or no, he hadn't.

0:17:30 > 0:17:33By now, Marc Millis at NASA also wanted to know

0:17:33 > 0:17:36if there was something in Podkletnov's claim.

0:17:36 > 0:17:39And he had a much bigger budget.

0:17:39 > 0:17:43We found people who replicated the experiment with Podkletnov's help,

0:17:43 > 0:17:47and they even had 50 times the detection sensitivity

0:17:47 > 0:17:51that Podkletnov had had, and did not find any effect.

0:17:54 > 0:17:57Despite exhaustive tests, no-one seemed able to reproduce

0:17:57 > 0:18:00Podkletnov's so-called gravity field.

0:18:01 > 0:18:04I think Podkletnov had jumped to a conclusion,

0:18:04 > 0:18:09had seen some things and did not take the...rigour to go through

0:18:09 > 0:18:12and make sure that he wasn't misleading himself.

0:18:13 > 0:18:16Meanwhile, news of Podkletnov's breakthrough

0:18:16 > 0:18:20had been leaked to the press, and the resulting media storm

0:18:20 > 0:18:24obliged him to leave his university post.

0:18:27 > 0:18:31So Podkletnov went back to Moscow to work in secret.

0:18:31 > 0:18:36And by late 2001, he claimed he had a new way to manipulate gravity.

0:18:39 > 0:18:42Wary of the Western media, he contacted the one man

0:18:42 > 0:18:46he trusted to give him a fair hearing - Ron Evans at Greenglow.

0:18:48 > 0:18:50He offered to meet with Ron,

0:18:50 > 0:18:55but it would have to be in secret at a hotel in London, specified by him.

0:18:56 > 0:19:00It was a secret meeting because I did not want to attract

0:19:00 > 0:19:03the attention of military people in Russia.

0:19:07 > 0:19:09By now, Ron was getting concerned

0:19:09 > 0:19:13his project was being dragged into a world of fantasy and subterfuge.

0:19:15 > 0:19:17It really was like a John le Carre story.

0:19:17 > 0:19:21And he said he could afford us just a little bit of time, if we wanted

0:19:21 > 0:19:25to learn a little bit more about what he'd been doing in Moscow.

0:19:27 > 0:19:29Because of his security concerns,

0:19:29 > 0:19:34Podkletnov was only prepared to tell Ron the basic concept.

0:19:34 > 0:19:40I presented to him my latest works with impulse gravity generator,

0:19:40 > 0:19:44which gives a very short impulse of gravity waves.

0:19:45 > 0:19:48It's really a giant spark plug, really.

0:19:48 > 0:19:50But according to Dr Podkletnov,

0:19:50 > 0:19:56someone way away, a kilometre away, on the balcony of some flats

0:19:56 > 0:20:01in line with the beam, was still able to detect a slight effect.

0:20:03 > 0:20:04That was incredible.

0:20:05 > 0:20:09It can be used for propulsion in space,

0:20:09 > 0:20:12but at the same time, it is a very powerful weapon

0:20:12 > 0:20:19and it can destroy the missiles or remove them from their trajectory,

0:20:19 > 0:20:24so the interest from military people will be definitely big.

0:20:24 > 0:20:26What did I think? It was very...

0:20:29 > 0:20:32Dr Podkletnov is a scientist, and, you know...

0:20:33 > 0:20:35I don't know, is the answer.

0:20:35 > 0:20:37It's very hard to say, yes, I believed it.

0:20:37 > 0:20:41On the other hand, I wanted to know more, because it might be true.

0:20:42 > 0:20:44Did you really think that was feasible?

0:20:47 > 0:20:49We don't know, with gravity.

0:20:49 > 0:20:52Gravity is a subject we don't know about.

0:20:52 > 0:20:54That's why we're exploring it.

0:20:57 > 0:21:01For years, the gravity pulse concept remained shrouded in secrecy,

0:21:01 > 0:21:03and stayed unproven.

0:21:06 > 0:21:09But by the early 2000s, a new generation of scientists

0:21:09 > 0:21:12had picked up the baton from Project Greenglow...

0:21:15 > 0:21:17..including Dr Martin Tajmar,

0:21:17 > 0:21:20professor of space systems at Dresden University.

0:21:22 > 0:21:26If you look for a challenge, always look for a big challenge.

0:21:27 > 0:21:31The ultimate challenge I can think of as a scientist

0:21:31 > 0:21:32is to control gravity.

0:21:32 > 0:21:37That's maybe the most difficult thing there is, right?

0:21:37 > 0:21:40Martin is about to comprehensively test Podkletnov's concept

0:21:40 > 0:21:42once and for all.

0:21:42 > 0:21:46His claims are that it can drill holes into brick walls

0:21:46 > 0:21:49and this kind of stuff, which is an extraordinary claim.

0:21:49 > 0:21:51And if you have an extraordinary claim,

0:21:51 > 0:21:54you must have extraordinary proof.

0:21:54 > 0:21:58Antigravity is a kind of synonym for impossible.

0:21:58 > 0:22:00But always be ready for the surprise.

0:22:01 > 0:22:06This, in effect, is Podkletnov's gravity pulse generator,

0:22:06 > 0:22:08recreated by Martin and his team.

0:22:09 > 0:22:14As Ron Evans guessed, it's based on a kind of giant spark plug -

0:22:14 > 0:22:17essentially two electrodes in a box.

0:22:17 > 0:22:22Basically, you have two electrodes - one here and one here - and you are

0:22:22 > 0:22:27running a very, very high electric current, a discharge through that.

0:22:30 > 0:22:33The discharge goes through a superconductor.

0:22:34 > 0:22:39According to Podkletnov, this somehow creates a pulse of gravity,

0:22:39 > 0:22:44which is picked up by a sensor, acting like an electronic pendulum.

0:22:46 > 0:22:49And let's say, if you have here a pendulum, here,

0:22:49 > 0:22:53that when this gravitational impulse hits the pendulum,

0:22:53 > 0:22:56you will actually get a deflection off the pendulum.

0:22:56 > 0:23:00And so, the claim is that this is actually also creating

0:23:00 > 0:23:05not only an electric discharge but a kind of gravitational impulse -

0:23:05 > 0:23:07a push to something at a distance.

0:23:17 > 0:23:20The superconductor is cooled with liquid nitrogen

0:23:20 > 0:23:22to remove its electrical resistance.

0:23:25 > 0:23:29Podkletnov claimed the resulting mass of electrical discharge

0:23:29 > 0:23:31creates the gravitational pulse.

0:23:35 > 0:23:37They switch on the power to charge up the system...

0:23:40 > 0:23:41..and wait for the discharge.

0:23:45 > 0:23:46Counting down.

0:23:55 > 0:23:57BANG

0:23:57 > 0:23:58There is a reading.

0:24:02 > 0:24:03So here's the data.

0:24:03 > 0:24:06Gravity goes with the speed of light,

0:24:06 > 0:24:08so you should see an instantaneous peak.

0:24:08 > 0:24:11And then, the sound from this bang, this takes some time

0:24:11 > 0:24:14until it arrives. So we should see two distinct peaks

0:24:14 > 0:24:16because we have such a high resolution.

0:24:16 > 0:24:20So that's the acoustic impulse, and exactly here,

0:24:20 > 0:24:23that's where the gravitation impulse should be, but we don't see it.

0:24:25 > 0:24:27The sensor felt the sound wave from the spark...

0:24:27 > 0:24:29BANG

0:24:29 > 0:24:31..but no gravity pulse.

0:24:31 > 0:24:35That's the most sensitive sensor there is in the world

0:24:35 > 0:24:38and we don't even see something out of the noise,

0:24:38 > 0:24:41so how can you make a claim to say that you move things metres away

0:24:41 > 0:24:44or that you actually push pendulums away?

0:24:44 > 0:24:46So that's a really outrageous claim.

0:24:46 > 0:24:52We haven't seen something, not even remotely like that, unfortunately.

0:24:52 > 0:24:55But, yeah... So far, no luck.

0:24:57 > 0:25:00So this guy had the idea that by,

0:25:00 > 0:25:03you know, messing around with superconductors,

0:25:03 > 0:25:07he could change the strength of the gravitational field.

0:25:07 > 0:25:09Crap!

0:25:10 > 0:25:14None of Podkletnov's methods seemed able to alter gravity in the lab.

0:25:15 > 0:25:19Could the reason be a simple problem of scale?

0:25:34 > 0:25:37For physicist Clifford Johnson,

0:25:37 > 0:25:42scale is the big Achilles heel in any idea of gravity control,

0:25:42 > 0:25:46because at human scales, there's almost nothing there TO control.

0:25:48 > 0:25:51Most people think that gravity's an extremely strong force.

0:25:51 > 0:25:55And indeed, it does seem to be - it binds us here to the earth.

0:25:55 > 0:25:59But actually, of all the forces we know in nature, it's the weakest.

0:26:03 > 0:26:05I'm actually going to show you something.

0:26:05 > 0:26:08We can see exactly how weak gravity is in this way.

0:26:08 > 0:26:12I have this fridge magnet - just an ordinary fridge magnet.

0:26:12 > 0:26:16And look - it sticks. It doesn't fall. What does that mean?

0:26:16 > 0:26:19It means that this electromagnetic force

0:26:19 > 0:26:21between this magnet and the car

0:26:21 > 0:26:26is beating the force of gravity due to the entire earth.

0:26:29 > 0:26:30Let me give you a number.

0:26:30 > 0:26:36It's 10 to the 40 times weaker than electromagnetism.

0:26:36 > 0:26:41That's not 10 or 10 x 40. It's 10 to the power 40.

0:26:41 > 0:26:45So that's a one with 40 zeros after it.

0:26:45 > 0:26:48So that's going to be part of the difficulty

0:26:48 > 0:26:51in any experiment that we might do that tries to modify gravity.

0:26:51 > 0:26:55It's trying to tinker with something that, on that scale, is so tiny.

0:26:55 > 0:26:59The real effects of gravity take place when you have

0:26:59 > 0:27:03huge amounts of mass, like the mass of the earth or something like that.

0:27:03 > 0:27:07That's the scale on which gravity is changing

0:27:07 > 0:27:08in a significant, measurable way.

0:27:12 > 0:27:15There is one industry that has to deal with gravity

0:27:15 > 0:27:16on a planetary scale.

0:27:18 > 0:27:20That has always clamoured for some form

0:27:20 > 0:27:22of gravity-beating propulsion.

0:27:26 > 0:27:27The space industry.

0:27:35 > 0:27:39Marc Millis ran NASA's Breakthrough Propulsion Project.

0:27:39 > 0:27:43One of its long-term goals was to move away from using rockets.

0:27:46 > 0:27:50The problem with rockets is not that they can't beat gravity -

0:27:50 > 0:27:53it's the amount of thrust they need to do it.

0:27:53 > 0:27:55If you think about the Apollo spacecraft

0:27:55 > 0:27:59and you imagine here's the Saturn V,

0:27:59 > 0:28:02the very tip of that and then a little bit below that

0:28:02 > 0:28:04was the actual spacecraft itself

0:28:04 > 0:28:08and all the rest of this was the propellant, the rocket fuel,

0:28:08 > 0:28:10and that's just to the moon.

0:28:14 > 0:28:17NASA aims to get humans to Mars and back

0:28:17 > 0:28:19within the next decade and a half...

0:28:20 > 0:28:23..maybe, one day, beyond the solar system itself...

0:28:25 > 0:28:26..but just the Martian step

0:28:26 > 0:28:29seems impractical with conventional rockets

0:28:29 > 0:28:33because leaving the earth's gravity takes so much fuel.

0:28:33 > 0:28:35The farther or faster that you want to go

0:28:35 > 0:28:37or more that you want to carry,

0:28:37 > 0:28:39you need this extra propellant to do that

0:28:39 > 0:28:42and then you need extra propellant for the extra propellant

0:28:42 > 0:28:44and it adds up exponentially.

0:28:46 > 0:28:48You wanted to go to our nearest neighbouring star,

0:28:48 > 0:28:50which is over four light-years away,

0:28:50 > 0:28:52and you wanted to do it with the kind of rockets

0:28:52 > 0:28:54that are on the space shuttle,

0:28:54 > 0:28:56and say you want to do it in 50 years,

0:28:56 > 0:28:58you're having to go a tenth of the speed of light.

0:28:58 > 0:29:01Well, the amount propellant you need for that journey

0:29:01 > 0:29:03is about the mass of our entire sun.

0:29:06 > 0:29:08For Mark and NASA,

0:29:08 > 0:29:11the focus was less on controlling gravity itself

0:29:11 > 0:29:14than finding ways to get to the stars.

0:29:15 > 0:29:17They didn't care how

0:29:17 > 0:29:19as long as it didn't need rocket fuel.

0:29:24 > 0:29:26And, in 2002,

0:29:26 > 0:29:28a new device appeared

0:29:28 > 0:29:30that seemed to offer a solution...

0:29:38 > 0:29:41..invented by a former defence research engineer,

0:29:41 > 0:29:42Roger Shawyer.

0:29:43 > 0:29:49The big advantage of EmDrive is that it's a device which creates a force

0:29:49 > 0:29:54but it doesn't have to shoot out a propellant out of the back.

0:29:55 > 0:29:58Instead of using rocket fuel to create thrust,

0:29:58 > 0:30:01the EmDrive uses microwave energy...

0:30:02 > 0:30:04..just like a domestic oven.

0:30:06 > 0:30:10Microwaves bounce around inside the box in waves, cooking your food.

0:30:12 > 0:30:14To stop that energy cooking you,

0:30:14 > 0:30:17there is a mesh on the door with holes in.

0:30:17 > 0:30:20The diameter of these holes are so small

0:30:20 > 0:30:22that, instead of going through it,

0:30:22 > 0:30:26microwave radiation is actually bouncing up and down vertically

0:30:26 > 0:30:28in the hole.

0:30:30 > 0:30:32The holes trap the waves,

0:30:32 > 0:30:34slowing them to a standstill.

0:30:36 > 0:30:37According to Roger,

0:30:37 > 0:30:40the narrow end of his EmDrive does exactly the same job.

0:30:41 > 0:30:45The waves are going faster at the large end

0:30:45 > 0:30:47than they are at the small end.

0:30:47 > 0:30:51This means that the force at the large end

0:30:51 > 0:30:53is greater than the force at the small end

0:30:53 > 0:30:58which will cause the cavity to move in the opposite direction.

0:31:01 > 0:31:04It would only produce a small amount of thrust,

0:31:04 > 0:31:06but, in space, that would matter.

0:31:06 > 0:31:10An EmDrive thruster with continuous electrical power

0:31:10 > 0:31:12gives you continuous acceleration

0:31:12 > 0:31:16and therefore you can achieve very large velocities

0:31:16 > 0:31:18and travel very large distances.

0:31:19 > 0:31:22Roger believes that, if he could make it big enough,

0:31:22 > 0:31:26it could potentially lift us from the Earth.

0:31:26 > 0:31:27You suddenly have a lift engine

0:31:27 > 0:31:31which simply hovers there or indeed accelerates upwards.

0:31:31 > 0:31:36So we can obviously envisage launching large payloads into space

0:31:36 > 0:31:39on an EmDrive-driven space plane.

0:31:40 > 0:31:43Essentially, we are no longer looking at ways

0:31:43 > 0:31:45that we can control gravity itself.

0:31:45 > 0:31:48We are beating gravity the smart way.

0:31:49 > 0:31:51If it works.

0:31:52 > 0:31:55Though he didn't claim to control gravity,

0:31:55 > 0:32:01Roger's EmDrive concept was rejected by a lot of theoretical scientists,

0:32:01 > 0:32:04who claim the basic physics just didn't add up.

0:32:07 > 0:32:09So imagine I'm a particle of light

0:32:09 > 0:32:12and I bounce off one side of a box.

0:32:12 > 0:32:16I push off and I push the box that way, go this way,

0:32:16 > 0:32:21but then I hit the other side of the box and I bounce off just as hard.

0:32:21 > 0:32:24So the box doesn't go anywhere.

0:32:24 > 0:32:27So, for it move, I would have to push off one side

0:32:27 > 0:32:31and then escape out the other end the way that a rocket does.

0:32:31 > 0:32:33So that's why we're not sure how the EmDrive works

0:32:33 > 0:32:38because bouncing off both sides of a box you wouldn't get any thrust.

0:32:38 > 0:32:42Newton told us that action and reaction are equal and opposite,

0:32:42 > 0:32:44but, the EmDrive, nothing comes out

0:32:44 > 0:32:48and so I don't see how you can generate momentum out of nothing.

0:32:50 > 0:32:52My view is - who cares?

0:32:52 > 0:32:53It's the experiment.

0:32:53 > 0:32:55If the experiment works,

0:32:55 > 0:33:00it's up to the theoretical people to put a theory round why it works.

0:33:00 > 0:33:04From what we understand so far, it shouldn't work,

0:33:04 > 0:33:07but if you have an open mind and say, "Well, what if...?"

0:33:07 > 0:33:10If it does work, it's a revolution,

0:33:10 > 0:33:11it's a new propulsion system.

0:33:15 > 0:33:18To settle the argument between the theorists and engineers,

0:33:18 > 0:33:22Martin Tajmar had the perfect test facility in Dresden...

0:33:26 > 0:33:28..a large vacuum chamber mounted on dampers

0:33:28 > 0:33:31to isolate it from the surrounding world...

0:33:33 > 0:33:35..a carefully designed rig to hold the drive...

0:33:38 > 0:33:41..with a finely tuned balance to record any thrust...

0:33:44 > 0:33:45..and, most importantly,

0:33:45 > 0:33:48a copy of Roger Shawyer's original EmDrive.

0:33:49 > 0:33:52Martin's version is small

0:33:52 > 0:33:54but, if the principal works,

0:33:54 > 0:33:56there should be measurable thrust.

0:34:00 > 0:34:02The vacuum chamber is sealed.

0:34:05 > 0:34:08The thrust recorder inside is so sensitive

0:34:08 > 0:34:11it can detect Martin sitting down outside.

0:34:14 > 0:34:18We're here in a laboratory on earth so there's some seismic movement,

0:34:18 > 0:34:21so the balance themselves will move just a little bit.

0:34:21 > 0:34:23That's the noise we are seeing here.

0:34:27 > 0:34:28The EmDrive is switched on.

0:34:32 > 0:34:34Nothing appears to move.

0:34:37 > 0:34:41But on Martin's screen there is a reading.

0:34:41 > 0:34:42When we turn on the thruster,

0:34:42 > 0:34:44the balance in it reacts

0:34:44 > 0:34:47and we measure something which looks actually like a thrust.

0:34:47 > 0:34:51What we measured here in this case is something like 25 micronewtons.

0:34:51 > 0:34:54That's very, very small.

0:34:54 > 0:34:59You can compare this, for example, to a tenth of the weight force

0:34:59 > 0:35:01of a grain of rice. Incredibly small.

0:35:01 > 0:35:03Still, however, useful.

0:35:03 > 0:35:06For example, in space, we have thrusters actually

0:35:06 > 0:35:08which have this tiny amount of force

0:35:08 > 0:35:12which is still useful to manoeuvre spacecraft, for instance.

0:35:14 > 0:35:16The first results seem positive.

0:35:18 > 0:35:21But, when Martin experimented further,

0:35:21 > 0:35:23he discovered a problem.

0:35:23 > 0:35:26So, with the thruster pointing in that direction,

0:35:26 > 0:35:28we measured thrust in that direction

0:35:28 > 0:35:30and, when we tilted it 90 degrees,

0:35:30 > 0:35:34we still measured thrust in this direction, which we shouldn't have.

0:35:35 > 0:35:38There can still be some major influence

0:35:38 > 0:35:42from, for example, the power feeding lines that we still need to solve

0:35:42 > 0:35:45to find out what's the real thrust produced by the EmDrive,

0:35:45 > 0:35:47if there is any thrust produced.

0:35:55 > 0:35:57The great hope of the EmDrive was

0:35:57 > 0:35:59that, as a kind of propellant-less rocket,

0:35:59 > 0:36:02it would at least power vehicles in space,

0:36:02 > 0:36:04NASA's dream.

0:36:07 > 0:36:10But NASA didn't pursue the idea any further,

0:36:10 > 0:36:14or any other gravity-defying concepts,

0:36:14 > 0:36:16because, in 2002,

0:36:16 > 0:36:19they closed down Marc Millis's project.

0:36:20 > 0:36:25The project ended when the funding for all propulsion research was cut.

0:36:25 > 0:36:28It wasn't just breakthrough propulsion physics,

0:36:28 > 0:36:32it was a Congressional earmark to build a building in a certain state

0:36:32 > 0:36:34and that took all the funding. It happens.

0:36:36 > 0:36:40The main progress that we made is we took science-fiction notions

0:36:40 > 0:36:44and evolved them to at least the first step of the scientific method.

0:36:44 > 0:36:48That step by itself is a degree of progress

0:36:48 > 0:36:50that, if I don't accomplish any more,

0:36:50 > 0:36:52it's like, "Yeah, that was pretty good."

0:37:04 > 0:37:07Ron Evans kept going for another three years.

0:37:08 > 0:37:12But, when he retired in 2005,

0:37:12 > 0:37:15BAE closed down Project Greenglow.

0:37:17 > 0:37:19For more than a decade,

0:37:19 > 0:37:22Ron had tried to find a way to control gravity.

0:37:24 > 0:37:25He never managed it.

0:37:28 > 0:37:30Is it a shame?

0:37:30 > 0:37:33Yeah, I suppose so. I would like...

0:37:33 > 0:37:36I would like to have worked at a company

0:37:36 > 0:37:39that actually made this idea work.

0:37:40 > 0:37:41It was a lovely idea.

0:37:46 > 0:37:48When Greenglow ended,

0:37:48 > 0:37:51the hope of mastering gravity seemed to end with it.

0:37:58 > 0:38:00If that was ever going to change,

0:38:00 > 0:38:05we needed to go much deeper into how gravity actually worked.

0:38:15 > 0:38:17Our understanding of gravity

0:38:17 > 0:38:20has come down from Galileo, Newton and Einstein...

0:38:21 > 0:38:25..from observations rooted in the motions of the heavens.

0:38:31 > 0:38:35Now, those same heavens seem to be showing us something

0:38:35 > 0:38:40that looks remarkably like antigravity.

0:38:40 > 0:38:43There are phenomena out there associated with gravity

0:38:43 > 0:38:47that have led us to rethink a lot about our universe.

0:38:47 > 0:38:49If you look at distant galaxies,

0:38:49 > 0:38:51they're moving away from us as we expect

0:38:51 > 0:38:53because the universe began with this big bang

0:38:53 > 0:38:56and everything's being thrown outwards,

0:38:56 > 0:38:59but one would expect that the gravity of everything

0:38:59 > 0:39:03would eventually start slowing that down.

0:39:03 > 0:39:06Instead, what's actually been measured, it's a huge surprise,

0:39:06 > 0:39:09is that the expansion of the universe is accelerating.

0:39:11 > 0:39:14It's a puzzle that has stumped both theoretical physicists

0:39:14 > 0:39:17like Clifford Johnson

0:39:17 > 0:39:21and cosmologists like Tamara Davis,

0:39:21 > 0:39:23because gravity seems to be doing

0:39:23 > 0:39:25the one thing we always assumed it couldn't.

0:39:29 > 0:39:31Gravity appears to be pushing.

0:39:31 > 0:39:34Something's accelerating the galaxies away from each other.

0:39:34 > 0:39:37That's as strange as if I took this ball,

0:39:37 > 0:39:39just gently threw it in the air

0:39:39 > 0:39:41and watched it accelerate off into space.

0:39:44 > 0:39:50Scientists call the force that is doing this pushing dark energy,

0:39:50 > 0:39:54estimated to account for roughly 70% of the universe.

0:39:56 > 0:39:59So dark energy has some sort of antigravity

0:39:59 > 0:40:01and it pushes the galaxies apart.

0:40:03 > 0:40:08The idea that the universe has some inherent form of antigravity

0:40:08 > 0:40:10is tantalising.

0:40:10 > 0:40:12If only we could get our hands on it.

0:40:15 > 0:40:20The problem is no-one knows what this antigravity force actually is.

0:40:21 > 0:40:24Only that it seems to originate from space itself.

0:40:26 > 0:40:30Although we think of space as this emptiness, the absence of stuff,

0:40:30 > 0:40:31it actually isn't.

0:40:31 > 0:40:35There is something that's intrinsic to the nature of space that

0:40:35 > 0:40:37imparted an energy.

0:40:39 > 0:40:43And one of the big mysteries is where has that energy come from?

0:40:47 > 0:40:50A number of scientists think the answer to this big question

0:40:50 > 0:40:57could lie-in the very small, the very, very, very small world

0:40:57 > 0:41:01of subatomic particles. Quantum physics.

0:41:04 > 0:41:06According to current quantum theory,

0:41:06 > 0:41:09particles can spontaneously appear from nowhere.

0:41:10 > 0:41:14Apparently they just pop into existence in the vacuum of space.

0:41:17 > 0:41:21Matter and antimatter,

0:41:21 > 0:41:25which because they are opposites cancel each other out in an instant.

0:41:26 > 0:41:29The lifetime is 1,000th

0:41:29 > 0:41:32of one billionth of one billionth of a second.

0:41:34 > 0:41:40We are now in an ocean of particle-antiparticle pairs

0:41:40 > 0:41:44permanently appearing and disappearing.

0:41:44 > 0:41:48Dr Dragan Hajdukovic thinks something else happens to these

0:41:48 > 0:41:52particles to produce an antigravity effect.

0:41:58 > 0:42:00For the briefest moment of their existence,

0:42:00 > 0:42:05these particles can be polarised like iron filings.

0:42:05 > 0:42:09The trouble is to get it in a random orientation.

0:42:09 > 0:42:16If there is a magnetic field, the random orientation will change. Yes.

0:42:19 > 0:42:24According to Dragan, in the same way iron filings respond to a magnet...

0:42:27 > 0:42:30..pairs of quantum particles respond to mass...

0:42:32 > 0:42:35..with matter and antimatter pairs briefly orienting themselves

0:42:35 > 0:42:37in relation to that mass.

0:42:39 > 0:42:43Matter is attracted to the positive mass of a planet or a star

0:42:43 > 0:42:46while antimatter is repelled by it.

0:42:49 > 0:42:53Dragan believes this creates a halo of antigravity dark energy

0:42:53 > 0:42:55around every mass in the universe.

0:42:57 > 0:43:01All these haloes together has negative pressure,

0:43:01 > 0:43:04what is exactly what we need

0:43:04 > 0:43:09in cosmological equations to produce the accelerated

0:43:09 > 0:43:11expansion of the universe.

0:43:13 > 0:43:16It means that there are both positive

0:43:16 > 0:43:19and negative rotational charges.

0:43:19 > 0:43:23So far, we know that gravity is an attraction.

0:43:23 > 0:43:30It may be that gravity is also a repulsion but not between matter

0:43:30 > 0:43:33and matter but between matter and antimatter.

0:43:37 > 0:43:40Dragan's theory that the key to antigravity

0:43:40 > 0:43:44lies in antimatter is actually going to be tested...

0:43:47 > 0:43:52..here in the world's biggest physics lab at CERN in Switzerland.

0:43:55 > 0:43:59Not in the famous Large Hadron Collider,

0:43:59 > 0:44:02but in the improbably named Antimatter Factory...

0:44:04 > 0:44:06..at its Alpha experiment.

0:44:10 > 0:44:13A team led by Jeffrey Hangst is building a machine that,

0:44:13 > 0:44:16in a couple of years, will answer one of the biggest questions

0:44:16 > 0:44:17in gravity research.

0:44:19 > 0:44:22Does antimatter fall down or up?

0:44:25 > 0:44:31The first step is to make antimatter particles of hydrogen.

0:44:31 > 0:44:33We start here with this beamline.

0:44:33 > 0:44:38That provides the nucleus of the antihydrogen atom, the antiprotons.

0:44:38 > 0:44:40They come through here at a reasonably high energy

0:44:40 > 0:44:45and get stopped inside this magnet which is where the actual

0:44:45 > 0:44:47antihydrogen will be formed and trapped.

0:44:50 > 0:44:54The next step will be to test how antimatter reacts

0:44:54 > 0:44:55to the Earth's gravity.

0:44:57 > 0:45:00OK, so this machine can trap and release antihydrogen

0:45:00 > 0:45:02but it's not ideal for gravity.

0:45:02 > 0:45:05What we want to do now is take a machine like this

0:45:05 > 0:45:08and turn it on its head so we can actually see

0:45:08 > 0:45:12the freefall of the antimatter that is released.

0:45:12 > 0:45:17If Dragan is right then the antihydrogen will fall up

0:45:17 > 0:45:19and somebody wins a Nobel Prize,

0:45:19 > 0:45:22that's for sure, and we have to rewrite a lot of textbooks.

0:45:24 > 0:45:29Hi, Dragan. Welcome. Come on in. Let's take a look at this machine.

0:45:29 > 0:45:33Alpha is part of CERN's ongoing exploration into the nature

0:45:33 > 0:45:35of matter and gravity.

0:45:35 > 0:45:37Right now, what we are doing is we're routinely

0:45:37 > 0:45:39trapping antihydrogen.

0:45:39 > 0:45:42But for Dragan Hajdukovic, it will be made or break.

0:45:44 > 0:45:47If he is right, creating antigravity on Earth

0:45:47 > 0:45:50is at least a theoretical possibility.

0:46:00 > 0:46:04One of the big theoretical objections to gravity control was

0:46:04 > 0:46:07always that, unlike electromagnetism,

0:46:07 > 0:46:09gravity had no negative form.

0:46:11 > 0:46:16Yet evidence from the cosmos seems to suggest that negative gravity

0:46:16 > 0:46:17does exist.

0:46:19 > 0:46:21To bring it down to Earth, however,

0:46:21 > 0:46:24seems to require some form of negative entity.

0:46:27 > 0:46:30Dragan Hajdukovic thinks it could be antimatter.

0:46:38 > 0:46:42Whereas Dr Martin Tajmar believes the best option would be to use

0:46:42 > 0:46:44negative mass.

0:46:44 > 0:46:47So let's imagine something that we can all imagine.

0:46:47 > 0:46:49Let's say we have positive mass.

0:46:50 > 0:46:53Positive mass means if I'm pushing

0:46:53 > 0:46:56positive mass, it always accelerates in the same

0:46:56 > 0:46:57direction as I am pushing.

0:46:59 > 0:47:01Let's imagine something magical.

0:47:01 > 0:47:04Let's imagine we have positive

0:47:04 > 0:47:06and we have negative mass.

0:47:06 > 0:47:08They will attract each other.

0:47:08 > 0:47:11Now, the positive mass is attracted here

0:47:11 > 0:47:13and it accelerates in the very same direction.

0:47:13 > 0:47:16The negative is attracted over there,

0:47:16 > 0:47:19but because it is negative mass, it accelerates over there.

0:47:19 > 0:47:24So they both would start to accelerate in one direction,

0:47:24 > 0:47:26the direction of the negative mass.

0:47:30 > 0:47:35According to Martin, negative mass is the perfect way to create

0:47:35 > 0:47:39the ultimate gravity propulsion device -

0:47:39 > 0:47:41a warp drive.

0:47:42 > 0:47:44Imagine the positive and negative mass.

0:47:44 > 0:47:47That together creates a self accelerating structure.

0:47:47 > 0:47:51We can make a spacecraft with that, that can get any speed we want.

0:47:54 > 0:47:58Now, if this is all sounding a tiny bit speculative,

0:47:58 > 0:48:02Martin believes there is experimental evidence to back it up.

0:48:02 > 0:48:05The principle of self acceleration has actually already been

0:48:05 > 0:48:07demonstrated in the lab.

0:48:07 > 0:48:10Here you see that positive and negative light particles

0:48:10 > 0:48:11are coming together

0:48:11 > 0:48:14and when they come together, they always move,

0:48:14 > 0:48:17they self accelerate towards the negative position.

0:48:17 > 0:48:19That's an optical warp drive.

0:48:19 > 0:48:22It demonstrates that self acceleration is possible.

0:48:24 > 0:48:27Is it impossible to go to the next star? I don't think so.

0:48:27 > 0:48:30Impossible means it's not possible now.

0:48:30 > 0:48:32We just have to invent the magic trick.

0:48:37 > 0:48:41For Martin, the concept of negative mass is more than just

0:48:41 > 0:48:43a clever theory.

0:48:43 > 0:48:45It's the key to conquering gravity.

0:48:50 > 0:48:54But even if negative mass could be manufactured and harnessed to

0:48:54 > 0:48:58power a warp drive, many scientists think it would be

0:48:58 > 0:48:59impossible to use...

0:49:01 > 0:49:05..because of Einstein's theory of gravity.

0:49:08 > 0:49:12From Einstein's perspective, a mass actually distorts

0:49:12 > 0:49:17the fabric of space and time or space-time as it is called.

0:49:17 > 0:49:19That distortion is rather like a well.

0:49:23 > 0:49:26So here's another object that is moving nearby

0:49:26 > 0:49:29our mass that has bent space time

0:49:29 > 0:49:30and as it goes past,

0:49:30 > 0:49:34it bends towards the massive object.

0:49:35 > 0:49:37But a negative mass would be,

0:49:37 > 0:49:39in our analogy here, something like

0:49:39 > 0:49:41a mound instead of a depression

0:49:41 > 0:49:43and then you run into problems.

0:49:45 > 0:49:50The problem, according to Einstein, is that using a negative mass

0:49:50 > 0:49:53would mean inverting space-time,

0:49:53 > 0:49:58effectively turning the fabric of the universe inside out.

0:49:58 > 0:50:01And what you end up with is something that is called

0:50:01 > 0:50:02a runaway problem.

0:50:03 > 0:50:06You have physics that is just running out of control.

0:50:06 > 0:50:10It'll accelerate away arbitrarily with zero cost of energy

0:50:10 > 0:50:14and, if that were really happening anywhere in the universe,

0:50:14 > 0:50:17we'd see it spectacularly becoming an unstable situation.

0:50:21 > 0:50:23That's been proposed by other people

0:50:23 > 0:50:25as an actual solution to the problem.

0:50:28 > 0:50:30That's hilarious.

0:50:33 > 0:50:37If Clifford Johnson and other theoretical physicists are right,

0:50:37 > 0:50:40antigravity propulsion will remain an unworkable dream.

0:50:41 > 0:50:45It seems the laws of physics simply don't allow it.

0:50:48 > 0:50:51At least, not as we understand those laws today.

0:50:54 > 0:50:57Because, just as Galileo gave way to Newton

0:50:57 > 0:51:00and Newton gave way to Einstein,

0:51:00 > 0:51:03theories do change.

0:51:16 > 0:51:17And, in the meantime...

0:51:17 > 0:51:20well, the engineers get on with doing what engineers do -

0:51:20 > 0:51:21build new kinds of propulsion.

0:51:24 > 0:51:26Today, that includes NASA.

0:51:27 > 0:51:30At the Glenn Research Laboratory in Ohio,

0:51:30 > 0:51:33work is underway to produce new forms of space engine...

0:51:36 > 0:51:39..ones that really could take us where rockets can't -

0:51:39 > 0:51:41beyond our solar system.

0:51:44 > 0:51:48What we have here is a high-powered ion thruster

0:51:48 > 0:51:53and the way it produces thrust is ions are created inside this ring

0:51:53 > 0:51:56and then we establish electrostatic potential

0:51:56 > 0:51:59that accelerates these ions out

0:51:59 > 0:52:01and produces large velocities

0:52:01 > 0:52:05and what that does is it gives us very efficient production of thrust.

0:52:07 > 0:52:09This is an ion thruster under test

0:52:09 > 0:52:12putting out a constant stream of charged particles.

0:52:14 > 0:52:17It's less powerful than a rocket

0:52:17 > 0:52:19but capable of accelerating a spacecraft

0:52:19 > 0:52:21almost indefinitely.

0:52:23 > 0:52:26These systems are ideal for in space.

0:52:26 > 0:52:29You know, we operate them purely in space because it's very gentle.

0:52:29 > 0:52:32You know, the thrust level is low

0:52:32 > 0:52:35but, over time, you can develop much higher velocities

0:52:35 > 0:52:37than you can with chemical rockets.

0:52:40 > 0:52:44NASA's focus is on space propulsion

0:52:44 > 0:52:46beyond the Earth's gravitation.

0:52:48 > 0:52:50Yet there is a propulsion concept

0:52:50 > 0:52:54that aims to revolutionise all of aerospace,

0:52:54 > 0:52:57resurrected from the days of project Greenglow.

0:52:57 > 0:53:01It's Roger Shawyer's microwave thruster,

0:53:01 > 0:53:02the EmDrive.

0:53:04 > 0:53:05Ten years ago,

0:53:05 > 0:53:08it was unproven technology.

0:53:08 > 0:53:11This is a newer, bigger model under test.

0:53:13 > 0:53:14Balanced on a pivot,

0:53:14 > 0:53:16Roger claims it is moving

0:53:16 > 0:53:18under its own steam.

0:53:20 > 0:53:23The thrust is coming out in this direction

0:53:23 > 0:53:28and it is pushing the whole rig in a counterclockwise direction.

0:53:28 > 0:53:33It's moving 100kg of mass exactly as it would

0:53:33 > 0:53:36if it was a satellite in weightless conditions.

0:53:38 > 0:53:39According to Roger,

0:53:39 > 0:53:42this model generates 9g of thrust,

0:53:42 > 0:53:45equivalent to NASA's ion thruster,

0:53:45 > 0:53:48but he hopes to make an EmDrive capable of generating

0:53:48 > 0:53:50a thrust of nine tonnes.

0:53:51 > 0:53:57Nine tonnes will be used to lift and accelerate vertically

0:53:57 > 0:54:00any air vehicle we wish.

0:54:00 > 0:54:01A true revolution.

0:54:05 > 0:54:08EmDrive is still at the concept stage,

0:54:08 > 0:54:11but, if it turns out it really does work,

0:54:11 > 0:54:13no-one wants to miss out on its potential.

0:54:24 > 0:54:28In the United States, a number of corporations and government agencies

0:54:28 > 0:54:31have recently sat up and taken notice,

0:54:31 > 0:54:33led by this man.

0:54:35 > 0:54:39Colonel Coyote Smith is the former head of Dream Works.

0:54:40 > 0:54:41Not the movie company

0:54:41 > 0:54:44but something even more powerful -

0:54:44 > 0:54:46a future concepts department

0:54:46 > 0:54:49in the Pentagon's National Security Space Office.

0:54:50 > 0:54:52The potential is so great,

0:54:52 > 0:54:54if I did not bring this to the attention

0:54:54 > 0:54:56of the scientific community inside the US

0:54:56 > 0:54:58that works inside space programme,

0:54:58 > 0:55:00oh, I would have been fired.

0:55:00 > 0:55:03That's just absolutely the type of technology

0:55:03 > 0:55:04that we have to track down,

0:55:04 > 0:55:06these revolutionary breakthroughs.

0:55:06 > 0:55:10Now, all the physicists disclaimed it

0:55:10 > 0:55:13but the ironic thing is, when I took it to the engineering community,

0:55:13 > 0:55:16they didn't care why it worked, they were just interested that it worked.

0:55:20 > 0:55:23Ten years ago, Project Greenglow ended

0:55:23 > 0:55:27and Ron Evans thought official gravity research had ended with it.

0:55:29 > 0:55:31But today he's been invited to witness

0:55:31 > 0:55:34a unique gravitational breakthrough.

0:55:37 > 0:55:40When Ron first began his gravity research,

0:55:40 > 0:55:42it started with a question -

0:55:42 > 0:55:46could gravity be used to detect aircraft

0:55:46 > 0:55:48that were invisible to radar?

0:55:49 > 0:55:52In the 1980s, our complete inability to work with gravity

0:55:52 > 0:55:54made it impossible.

0:55:56 > 0:56:00But today Ron is meeting someone who says he's done it.

0:56:01 > 0:56:04This time, there are no covert meetings.

0:56:04 > 0:56:07He's going inside the Ministry of Defence research laboratory

0:56:07 > 0:56:09at Porton Down.

0:56:09 > 0:56:13Ron, good morning. Welcome to the Defence Science and Technology.

0:56:13 > 0:56:15Neil Stansfield heads a department here

0:56:15 > 0:56:19that looks at what they call disruptive technology.

0:56:22 > 0:56:27And they have taken a potential step on the road to gravity control

0:56:27 > 0:56:29using quantum engineering.

0:56:30 > 0:56:34So, what we have here is our quantum gravity gradiometer.

0:56:34 > 0:56:36It's a small system.

0:56:36 > 0:56:39At the heart of the device, we have a vacuum chamber.

0:56:39 > 0:56:43The sensor uses lasers to freeze a cloud of atoms.

0:56:44 > 0:56:49This cloud responds to disturbance in the Earth's gravitational field

0:56:49 > 0:56:52caused by moving mass.

0:56:52 > 0:56:55The atoms, they're sensitive enough to detect the mass of my body

0:56:55 > 0:56:57at a range of about one metre.

0:56:57 > 0:57:00- So your gravitational field is affecting this device.- Yes.

0:57:02 > 0:57:06This is the first time Ron has seen anyone actively using gravity.

0:57:08 > 0:57:10To me, this is amazing technology.

0:57:10 > 0:57:13Getting into the quantum, that's really allowing us to do things

0:57:13 > 0:57:16that were just unbelievable 30 years ago.

0:57:16 > 0:57:19Yes, some people use the phrase, "They break the laws of physics."

0:57:19 > 0:57:21I prefer to say they break the laws of physics

0:57:21 > 0:57:23as we understand them today.

0:57:23 > 0:57:26100 years ago, we didn't understand the quantum physics.

0:57:26 > 0:57:29The idea of being able to measure changes in gravity,

0:57:29 > 0:57:33- science fiction, could never happen. Today, we can.- Yes.

0:57:33 > 0:57:36And possibly even gravitational propulsion

0:57:36 > 0:57:38might be a possibility in the future.

0:57:38 > 0:57:40It may be. Yeah.

0:57:40 > 0:57:42I have ideas.

0:57:42 > 0:57:44It could be that we've got something.

0:57:44 > 0:57:47Certainly, I see this as a start.

0:57:47 > 0:57:50There's no doubt in my mind the UK is really at the forefront of this.

0:57:59 > 0:58:03Ron Evans's mission to control gravity began here,

0:58:03 > 0:58:06in a cold, wet corner of Lancashire

0:58:06 > 0:58:10where people go to live their dreams,

0:58:10 > 0:58:13where no-one ever worried about the word impossible.

0:58:17 > 0:58:19For Ron Evans,

0:58:19 > 0:58:23gravity control is just something we haven't learned to do...

0:58:23 > 0:58:25yet.

0:58:25 > 0:58:26I'm sure we will one day.

0:58:26 > 0:58:28It's just a matter of time.