Episode 13

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:00:17. > :00:27.APPLAUSE What can I say? What can I say? Hey,

:00:28. > :00:34.that's enough, you are too kind. Hello and welcome to Springwatch

:00:35. > :00:38.Unsprung, coming from a very sad it RSPB Minsmere and the sun has put a

:00:39. > :00:41.smile on the faces of this fine Suffolk audience who have come in

:00:42. > :00:44.this evening, forsaking it to come into the studio and enjoy the

:00:45. > :00:49.programme. What do we get up to admin snare? We bug the place with

:00:50. > :00:53.about 30 live cameras which allows to view the intimate lives of the

:00:54. > :00:56.species that live here and all of the dramas that unfold. Let's look

:00:57. > :01:03.at some of the live cameras, going to our great tits. You will know if

:01:04. > :01:06.you were watching that there were five in a nest and now you can see

:01:07. > :01:12.their four because one of them fledged this morning and at any

:01:13. > :01:18.stage now, the others could pop out. Keep your eyes on our live webcam as

:01:19. > :01:23.well. Now the sparrowhawk has been teasing us in week one. She has sat

:01:24. > :01:27.on five eggs but yesterday evening, we had the enormous privilege of

:01:28. > :01:35.listening to them cheap ink from inside their shells. -- chirping

:01:36. > :01:39.from inside. I was in ornithological nirvana for a little while. And

:01:40. > :01:45.lastly, let's go live to the stickleback camera. Last year, we

:01:46. > :01:49.were following the antics of Stoinis Sy and this year, we have Stephen

:01:50. > :01:54.Fry, one of the small fish. This is the stickleback nest and we will be

:01:55. > :01:58.keeping a close eye on them throughout the programme. But let me

:01:59. > :02:02.move on to introduce tonight's guest. There's a rumour going around

:02:03. > :02:08.that our first one is only here because we share a taste in dogs.

:02:09. > :02:11.That is merely a fluffy rumour. It is not down to poodles, it is down

:02:12. > :02:16.to the fact that in the 1990s, she was moving on up to record sales

:02:17. > :02:21.that totalled 10 million but then things got even better because she

:02:22. > :02:28.penned an anthem, which is not easy to do, and anthem that was used for

:02:29. > :02:31.the 2012 Olympics and even the theme tune for Oprah Winfrey. She has done

:02:32. > :02:41.herself proud, Heather Small! APPLAUSE

:02:42. > :02:47.Thank you very much. Our next guest, I'm pleased to introduce, he has

:02:48. > :02:50.supplied blogs for the Natural History Museum, photographs for BBC

:02:51. > :02:55.Wildlife magazine and even footage for Autumnwatch. He is a constant

:02:56. > :02:59.writer and I have to say these things are pretty impressive and

:03:00. > :03:05.even more when you know that he is just 17. It is Billy Stockwell.

:03:06. > :03:09.APPLAUSE At Unsprung, we are always very keen

:03:10. > :03:14.to work great young naturalists and we will hear more from Billy later.

:03:15. > :03:18.Lindsey Chapman at the ready, what is happening? It's been a very busy

:03:19. > :03:21.day online, lots of interest last night around a particular clip on

:03:22. > :03:28.Springwatch, about these strange creatures. Have a look at this. It

:03:29. > :03:32.was remarkable, wasn't it? These are lampreys, a primitive form of fish

:03:33. > :03:35.that have been around pretty much unchanged for 500 million years.

:03:36. > :03:44.This extraordinary footage is of them building their red, an area of

:03:45. > :03:46.gravel where they lay their eggs. They have amazing mouthparts which

:03:47. > :03:50.they use and yet the notion, spending time in the sea, sucking

:03:51. > :03:53.the blood of other fish but in the springtime they use them for moving

:03:54. > :03:58.stones, amazing. But very weird to look at and lots of people got in

:03:59. > :04:02.touch, with different comments. Mike said they were intriguing. Elaine

:04:03. > :04:08.said they were nightmare beast but she loved it. And we also had one

:04:09. > :04:12.from Pat who says the footage was impressive, so much action in rivers

:04:13. > :04:16.that we rarely get to see. Case in point, we know a lot about

:04:17. > :04:18.terrestrial ecology but I bet there are lots of good naturalists that

:04:19. > :04:22.could tell you things about butterflies, mammals and birds but

:04:23. > :04:25.how much would know about the habits of fish? Just because they are in

:04:26. > :04:28.the water, they are normally out of sight and out of mind but we are

:04:29. > :04:33.trying to rectify that without films and without Stephen Fry. Interesting

:04:34. > :04:37.and brilliant footage and I've got some great pictures because I found

:04:38. > :04:41.these, a series of pictures. This is the first one, a barn owl and a

:04:42. > :04:44.kestrel, the bar now has been outstanding early in the morning,

:04:45. > :04:48.catching a vole, and then the kestrel came out of nowhere and

:04:49. > :04:52.latched onto the role, and dragged the bar now about. Does this happen

:04:53. > :05:02.much? A kestrel is smaller than a barn owl. It does happen and this is

:05:03. > :05:05.what we call kleptoparasitism, one animal stealing from another. I have

:05:06. > :05:10.seen kestrels pinching from barn owls before because barn owls fly

:05:11. > :05:12.more slowly and are not as nimble as kestrels so they can swoop in

:05:13. > :05:17.underneath and catch the vole and get a free meal, makes sense. I've

:05:18. > :05:22.never seen it, I've only ever seen photos. Interesting. Let's get on to

:05:23. > :05:27.the quiz. The quiz this week is all about poo, you will be delighted to

:05:28. > :05:33.hear, and it has been set by the RSPB Minsmere young wardens. Here

:05:34. > :05:36.they are. We are the RSPB Minsmere young

:05:37. > :05:43.wardens and this is our quiz for you. It has a twist on the end. It

:05:44. > :05:51.is very smelly. It has fur in it so we know it is a predator. Who's scat

:05:52. > :06:00.is that? APPLAUSE We like poo with a twist on the!

:06:01. > :06:03.Diagnostic, that's why. Get in touch with your answers using #springwatch

:06:04. > :06:06.and they will be back at the end with an answer. I've done something

:06:07. > :06:10.special tonight, a tribute to the first guest, come up with a feature

:06:11. > :06:18.based around one of her most famous songs. Let's give this a go. Search

:06:19. > :06:27.for the heroine... Search for the heroine inside yourself! -- heron.

:06:28. > :06:30.It's brilliant, let's have a look at these wonderful ones, this is my

:06:31. > :06:34.first picture by Jimmy Reid, I thought that was pretty beautiful.

:06:35. > :06:38.Pretty good, I love the reflection and the sprinkle of water at high

:06:39. > :06:45.speed against the black background, I'm giving that points. Is it a 7.8?

:06:46. > :06:49.Because on the right-hand side, I would have raised those that all

:06:50. > :06:53.white spots, to be honest. We also got sent this picture of a heron by

:06:54. > :06:58.Emily Jones, I thought that was cool. I like that, a primitive edge,

:06:59. > :07:02.a bit like an old etching, and I like the texture on the paper. You

:07:03. > :07:05.were talking with Alison Steadman about the difference between

:07:06. > :07:09.spotting a plastic heron and a real one but we got sent this, have a

:07:10. > :07:17.look. Which one of those is the plastic one? On the left, real one

:07:18. > :07:24.on the right. You are, of course, correct! LAUGHTER

:07:25. > :07:31.she said sorry about the chairs. Thanks, Lindsey, let's move on to

:07:32. > :07:35.Heather. APPLAUSE Let's start off with Proud which was

:07:36. > :07:40.an amazing... Did you ever imagine it would be so big for so long and

:07:41. > :07:45.used in Sony giveaways? Not really, you write your music for yourself,

:07:46. > :07:48.first and foremost, something you feel strongly about and if others

:07:49. > :07:53.feel the same way, then that is an added bonus. What inspired you? The

:07:54. > :07:59.day you wrote it, what did you get up in your mind to do that? You been

:08:00. > :08:03.in a successful bad and when you do something other than that, people

:08:04. > :08:07.try to throw you curve balls, said things like, "Why would you leave a

:08:08. > :08:10.successful band to do something else?" But you have to challenge

:08:11. > :08:14.yourself and measure success in your own way and that is what Proud was

:08:15. > :08:17.about. Measuring success in your own way because there's lots of things

:08:18. > :08:21.that happen that people know nothing about that make you happy and proud

:08:22. > :08:25.but people don't know. I thought outward success does not mean that

:08:26. > :08:28.is the only kind of success. Absolutely, could not agree more.

:08:29. > :08:33.That hits the philosophy on the head. Let's hear a clip now.

:08:34. > :08:40.# What have you done today to make you feel proud?

:08:41. > :08:46.# It's never too late to try # What have you done today to make

:08:47. > :08:54.you feel proud? . # APPLAUSE

:08:55. > :08:57.It has inspired lots of people to take the extra step, to go the extra

:08:58. > :09:02.mile and we have tried to do the same. We have, we have been sent

:09:03. > :09:05.some wonderful pictures, this first one is from Tame Valley Wetlands who

:09:06. > :09:13.has been working in a woodland in North Warwickshire so well done.

:09:14. > :09:19.Chantal Feeney found a snail on the window and moved it onto the leaf.

:09:20. > :09:22.Julie has been doing a beach clean, achingly Portugal and Iceland flags

:09:23. > :09:25.for yesterday's match out of rubbish. This next one is a

:09:26. > :09:28.countryside clean from Sarah Thompson who does not have a beach

:09:29. > :09:32.so they clean the stream which is ace and Suzzie Green has been in

:09:33. > :09:36.touch, making an insect hotel with her nine-year-old. People doing

:09:37. > :09:41.brilliant things. Superb. Heather, you grew up in the city and you were

:09:42. > :09:45.ten years old before you went into the countryside. That must have had

:09:46. > :09:50.quite an impact? It did, I went to Beaconsfield and when I did, there

:09:51. > :09:56.was no Waitrose! It was definitely the countryside. I've found out that

:09:57. > :10:00.I was deeply allergic to the countryside because I'm asthmatic. I

:10:01. > :10:04.had a brilliant day running around the fields with my friends, the

:10:05. > :10:07.first time I had ever seen a haystack, I tried to move it and did

:10:08. > :10:12.not realise it was so heavy. But I got back onto the coach and I was

:10:13. > :10:17.not at all well. That was my first introduction. Did you identify what

:10:18. > :10:22.it was? I'm allergic to a host of things! Unfortunately. At that time,

:10:23. > :10:27.it was cut grass and the straw and The Hague. But now you live in the

:10:28. > :10:31.city again and you've got a good excuse to get out and about because

:10:32. > :10:38.you and I are the proud possessor is of the most important things in

:10:39. > :10:42.life, poodles. Tell me about Nina. Nina was named after Nina Simone,

:10:43. > :10:45.the very fine thing. She is eight months now, she is my toy poodle and

:10:46. > :10:51.she is a little minx but she is a beautiful. Because I have been

:10:52. > :10:56.allergic to so many things, and animals, I did my homework and found

:10:57. > :11:01.out it had to be a bichon frise or a toy poodle. I am at 51, a proud

:11:02. > :11:07.owner of a pet for the first time and I'm absolutely enjoying it. And

:11:08. > :11:12.it is a poodle! Top work you have joined the club. Do you know who

:11:13. > :11:17.else was in the club? No. Winston Churchill had to doors, Livingston,

:11:18. > :11:21.the explorer and Elvis Presley. Even though they are small, they are not

:11:22. > :11:30.a handbag, they are very intelligent and clever. They are... More, more.

:11:31. > :11:35.They are quick as. But you are into exotic animals as well, lines,

:11:36. > :11:39.tigers, what I call Pichot animals. When you are growing up on a council

:11:40. > :11:43.estate, if you think of wildlife, you think of the grand and I did

:11:44. > :11:49.like lions, their mane and everything, it reminded me of them

:11:50. > :11:52.being very proud looking, and mothers with their clubs, the way

:11:53. > :11:57.they fight that they're young and after them. I had an empathy with

:11:58. > :12:01.that, and pumas, they just look beautiful. So black and false! I

:12:02. > :12:04.can't argue with any of this but the only problem I have with these

:12:05. > :12:09.animals is that they are not here, they are over there. But we still

:12:10. > :12:12.use the three Lions on the flight. We are trying to support that and we

:12:13. > :12:17.will be doing our best tomorrow afternoon. Mixed hopes! I'm going to

:12:18. > :12:23.offer you some UK species which I would say rival the species you have

:12:24. > :12:27.been talking about. What about the golden eagle? You are right because

:12:28. > :12:31.I like eagles and I like the fact that they are asked and agile and

:12:32. > :12:37.their wingspan, you can't argue with it. -- they are fast. Slightly

:12:38. > :12:41.smaller but perhaps even more dashing, the Sparrow walk. Look at

:12:42. > :12:47.the eyes. It looks intelligent. And is doing a fine job. This is the

:12:48. > :12:53.female and her five eggs. I worked that out with the eggs. Sometimes

:12:54. > :12:54.the males will integrate but not in this species! This is what we had

:12:55. > :13:07.yesterday, this is amazing. CHEEPING.

:13:08. > :13:11.I could tell you about the signs of that but the romance of a bird

:13:12. > :13:15.chirping inside an egg to communicate to the others and its

:13:16. > :13:19.mother... I can understand that, I sang to my child while he was being

:13:20. > :13:22.incubated out the best way to familiarise yourself stop did he

:13:23. > :13:29.come out musical? Not at all! LAUGHTER

:13:30. > :13:33.Everyone who comes onto Unsprung faces a challenge. We send them out

:13:34. > :13:36.onto the reserve with a selection of artist's materials and give them ten

:13:37. > :13:41.minutes to produce a representation of something they find, landscape,

:13:42. > :13:48.sense of or whatever. Now, you are racing but are you an artist?

:13:49. > :13:54.Definitely, definitely not! I know that you can be cruel so I am

:13:55. > :14:01.waiting for your words. -- you are a singer. I'm not cruel, I'm

:14:02. > :14:09.pragmatic. Bordering on cruel! This is Helen's offering... Helen?!

:14:10. > :14:15.Heather, sorry. APPLAUSE Sympathy vote, there! You did not

:14:16. > :14:21.stray any further than the balcony, I see. But nevertheless, I quite

:14:22. > :14:26.like it. The landscape was too much for me to in O it, I could not do it

:14:27. > :14:29.justice. I like the freestyle, the Impressionist technique you have

:14:30. > :14:37.been involved with. It reminds me of a loose Chagall, so where am I going

:14:38. > :14:43.to put that on the board? It's getting pretty cluttered but I think

:14:44. > :14:46.it is definitely better... Thank you. I'm going in here. I'm going in

:14:47. > :14:58.here. APPLAUSE That wasn't too cruel, was it? No,

:14:59. > :15:06.but I think I might have got the sympathy vote. Not really, I don't

:15:07. > :15:09.do sympathy. If you had evident website, we've got a section of

:15:10. > :15:13.music for you to look at, live stuff, videos and play list, click

:15:14. > :15:16.on the music tab and there is so much to see. Now it can be difficult

:15:17. > :15:20.for some people do get out and see wildlife and a few years ago, Lizzie

:15:21. > :15:24.Guntrip fan she could not get out at all and she needed another way to

:15:25. > :15:29.connect with nature. As she began to feel better, she set up a campaign

:15:30. > :15:31.for others in a similar situation. I met Lizzie and found out more about

:15:32. > :15:43.what she has been up to. In 2011, I was diagnosed with an

:15:44. > :15:48.illness called M E. Essentially, it affects the parts of the body that

:15:49. > :15:51.should make the body function normally. It was a really

:15:52. > :15:56.debilitating illness and for a couple of years, I was pretty much

:15:57. > :15:59.stuck at home. When I couldn't get out at all, watching nature through

:16:00. > :16:04.the TV, through Springwatch anchor live cameras, was a really valuable

:16:05. > :16:09.way for me to see and experience wildlife in a way I couldn't in

:16:10. > :16:16.person. I wrote a blog which I put online and people responded really

:16:17. > :16:19.well to it. What did it mean to you when you realised there were people

:16:20. > :16:23.out there who felt similarly to you? It was so cool and really important

:16:24. > :16:28.to me. I think my illness had taken away a lot of who I was, but with

:16:29. > :16:33.accessible nature and connecting with other people, it was away from

:16:34. > :16:42.the to still be the social, engaged and interested person that I was

:16:43. > :16:47.before the illness. When you talk about Accessible Nature, what do you

:16:48. > :16:52.mean? The reserve helps people in all different ways. The reserve

:16:53. > :16:58.covers all different people. I think it is estimated that less than --

:16:59. > :17:04.that less than 8% of disabled people use a wheelchair, said disability is

:17:05. > :17:06.often invisible. All of these people need design features to be able to

:17:07. > :17:27.get outside. Well, this isn't bad. This is called

:17:28. > :17:30.Headley hide, it is supposed to encourage children and people who

:17:31. > :17:35.may not have been interested in wildlife before to come here and

:17:36. > :17:38.enjoy this amazing scene. So it is wildlife for everybody because

:17:39. > :17:41.although you are in the middle of a city, it is right at your

:17:42. > :17:52.fingertips. It is a fantastic urban oasis. Last year, we launched our

:17:53. > :17:54.hashtag called hashtagwildlifefrommightwindow,

:17:55. > :18:01.which is connecting with wildlife on a daily basis. Did you expect the

:18:02. > :18:06.response you got from it? I didn't, I knew it meant a lot to me, but I

:18:07. > :18:13.didn't realise it meant so much to other people. To have someone say it

:18:14. > :18:17.has given them a new lease of life is amazing and if we can get

:18:18. > :18:20.Accessible Nature, whether that is inclusive design features at

:18:21. > :18:24.reserves or taking a moment out of your day to watch what you see

:18:25. > :18:29.through the window, if we can get that to be as important as going too

:18:30. > :18:33.wild and beautiful places, that is fantastic. Amazing. While we are

:18:34. > :18:38.here, we should really try and check out some of that nature. You have

:18:39. > :18:44.got a heron on me so far, so I need to pick one up.

:18:45. > :18:48.APPLAUSE. I am delighted to say Lizzie is here

:18:49. > :18:53.tonight. We had a brilliant day at the London wetland Centre. It has

:18:54. > :18:58.really helped you reconnect, hasn't it? Yes, I love the wetlands Centre,

:18:59. > :19:00.it is so that the people with wheelchairs and with invisible

:19:01. > :19:06.illnesses. We think what you are doing is fantastic. It is so good,

:19:07. > :19:08.we are going to present you with one of our Unsprung Hero awards.

:19:09. > :19:14.CHEERING .

:19:15. > :19:17.It is all about making wildlife accessible and you have done a

:19:18. > :19:22.brilliant job, so we salute you, Lizzie.

:19:23. > :19:26.APPLAUSE. One school that are using their very

:19:27. > :19:31.best assets to help wildlife in their own backyard is this cool, St

:19:32. > :19:35.Francis primary school in Birmingham. They bought a paddling

:19:36. > :19:39.pool because they had some ducklings hatch in their quad. Isn't that

:19:40. > :19:44.amazing? When they were ready, they released them back into the wild.

:19:45. > :19:51.Superb. Let's move back over to Billy. Billy, thank you very much

:19:52. > :19:55.for coming in. You and I share a passion for trying to glamorise a

:19:56. > :19:59.bird that too many people, I think, take as a familiar thing in their

:20:00. > :20:04.garden, the blue to it. Tell me about your passion for blue tips. I

:20:05. > :20:13.do most of my wildlife watching in and around my own patch, and blue

:20:14. > :20:16.tips are so accessible, they are everywhere -- blue titss. They see

:20:17. > :20:19.them but they don't really appreciate them and when you get a

:20:20. > :20:27.close-up picture, their colours are just amazing. I think if this were a

:20:28. > :20:32.rare bird on the other side of the world, people would flock to see

:20:33. > :20:37.them, but we watch them and don't give them a second look. You have

:20:38. > :20:41.been photographing them to highlight their beauty, more than anything

:20:42. > :20:47.else. Yes, they quite often take up residence in my bird boxes and last

:20:48. > :20:51.year, I converted one of my boxes to have a glass back. They weren't

:20:52. > :20:55.harmed in any way or disturbed, but it allowed me to put my nose on the

:20:56. > :21:01.glass and watch the eggs hatch, to watch them feed their young. And my

:21:02. > :21:07.nose was literally centimetres away from the chicks. There is nothing

:21:08. > :21:10.finer, is there, than getting that close to wildlife personally? We do

:21:11. > :21:13.what we can on Springwatch to instigate an interest but the best

:21:14. > :21:18.way to satisfy it is doing it yourself, of course. The other thing

:21:19. > :21:23.is you have some Trail cams, which we use all the time, and you have

:21:24. > :21:27.been using these on your patch. Yes, in a woodland adjacent to my patch

:21:28. > :21:32.and also, at school, we have two badger sets on our campus and I

:21:33. > :21:40.quite like the idea of when the school bell rings, and pupils and

:21:41. > :21:43.teachers go home, it is overrun by this badger family. So I have been

:21:44. > :21:51.trying to capture that over the last few months. It may put Ofsted off.

:21:52. > :21:56.This is another thing I like about your approach, you are not

:21:57. > :21:59.anti-technology. I read a blog today where somebody said we should never

:22:00. > :22:05.travel with our mobile phones, but for me, it is a really useful tool.

:22:06. > :22:09.I think technology gets a lot of blame for disconnecting people,

:22:10. > :22:14.especially younger generations, from wildlife, but I think if you use it

:22:15. > :22:19.in the right way, it can connect you, because you can social media,

:22:20. > :22:26.you can write your own blog, take photos on your phone. This is a

:22:27. > :22:29.photograph you took of a parasitic wasp in the act of parasitising a

:22:30. > :22:35.caterpillar, it is a really good photo. You can immediately then

:22:36. > :22:38.paste it onto your blog. Also, not everyone has the money to buy a

:22:39. > :22:43.professional camera, but everyone has a phone and it is so easy with

:22:44. > :22:47.smartphones to get a good image and share them. You have been using the

:22:48. > :22:50.images at your school to encourage others to get into wildlife and,

:22:51. > :22:56.again, using technology with your little codes. I have a few images up

:22:57. > :23:02.around the biology department about different UK species, with

:23:03. > :23:06.information pages next to them, with the QR code, so pupils can use that

:23:07. > :23:11.code to go directly to my blog and see footage of the featured species.

:23:12. > :23:15.So you do blogging, photography and you share that and encourage others.

:23:16. > :23:20.Lastly, come on to your music, your current project is to compose a

:23:21. > :23:26.natural symphony on the piano. Yes, I have been out and about recording

:23:27. > :23:29.sounds on my phone and with recording devices, putting together

:23:30. > :23:37.an album on the piano and hoping to expand it to cello and violin. What,

:23:38. > :23:43.playing yourself? No, friends. I was going to save. I can't do

:23:44. > :23:45.everything. You are doing a pretty good job. This is a clip of

:23:46. > :24:00.something you have composed already. MUSIC.

:24:01. > :24:06.Heather? Very atmospheric. He is a very talented young man. You haven't

:24:07. > :24:14.seen his artwork yet. Maybe we should. Thank you both. It is time

:24:15. > :24:22.to see your artwork now, come on, brandish it. What have you done? It

:24:23. > :24:26.is a foxglove. He came in with his own paint. I didn't have my own

:24:27. > :24:32.paint. It is a foxglove. APPLAUSE.

:24:33. > :24:42.And it has been visited by a couple of insects, the Hawks, or something.

:24:43. > :24:48.If you say so. You just lost a pointer that. This is good, Billy,

:24:49. > :24:51.to be honest. It is very good. It is stylised, it has elements of

:24:52. > :25:01.accuracy. I like the splatter effect. I saw the splatter effect in

:25:02. > :25:08.real life, it was awesome. On the top! I am going joint first.

:25:09. > :25:14.APPLAUSE. Really, really good. Billy, I don't

:25:15. > :25:19.know what to say, good work. And you have been doing great stuff in your

:25:20. > :25:23.school to do with wild boar, lots of schools are getting involved, and if

:25:24. > :25:26.you head to the website, we have a little blog about loads of things

:25:27. > :25:34.going on and there are also some facts from Brett Westwood about

:25:35. > :25:39.plans, just two minute the Tees. We kind of forget the plants, which we

:25:40. > :25:43.mustn't do, fundamental to the ecosystem. Something else that is

:25:44. > :25:48.really good is my pick of the day. It is very good today. I am trying

:25:49. > :25:54.to be your nine, which you gave a picture in the first week. I showed

:25:55. > :26:03.you this picture yesterday. Seven point out. I have been over scoring

:26:04. > :26:06.days. I haven't thought about the fade factor, like when you hear a

:26:07. > :26:09.track and you think it is the best thing you have ever had and the next

:26:10. > :26:13.day, it is OK. You see the Sistine Chapel and you think it is amazing

:26:14. > :26:18.and you go outside and think back on it and you realise that one of the

:26:19. > :26:24.fingers is slightly fatter than the others and you think, Michelangelo,

:26:25. > :26:32.nice try, but no cigar. Here is today's picture. This is the whole

:26:33. > :26:40.team picking this one. Oh, yes. Oh, yes. OK, now that is a superb

:26:41. > :26:45.photograph, there is no question. If there is one little thing I would

:26:46. > :26:50.pick on bulk-macro hold on. I love the head and the beautiful rippling

:26:51. > :26:56.on the water is absolutely superb. I wish there wasn't a piece of yellow.

:26:57. > :27:01.Look at the reflection. You could get rid of the yellow on the side so

:27:02. > :27:11.easily. What was the last one, 7.8? I think it is better than 7.8. I am

:27:12. > :27:16.going to go to 8.1. Well, I am going to keep trying. It is just that

:27:17. > :27:23.little bit of yellow. That far away from being nine something. You have

:27:24. > :27:29.all been trying with the quiz. Anybody in the audience got any

:27:30. > :27:38.guesses? Badger. Nice one. We have seen the picture there. Josie says

:27:39. > :27:46.is it a tawny owl? Stoat? Let's find out what it is.

:27:47. > :27:57.This is the poo of a red fox. So nice try with badger, but lots of

:27:58. > :28:04.people getting it right. Linda, Stewart, lots of people and

:28:05. > :28:08.especially for you, I have some fresh. Sometimes it is difficult to

:28:09. > :28:13.get it right if you can just see it. It helps if you can smell it. I will

:28:14. > :28:21.ask you to have a little whiff of that. Oh, wow. I can smell it from

:28:22. > :28:25.here. You will never forget it, will you? Superb. Sadly, that is all we

:28:26. > :28:29.have time for this evening, we have to wrap up the show, so can I

:28:30. > :28:34.personally thank our two guests for coming in, Heather Small and Billy

:28:35. > :28:37.Stockwell, they have been absolutely fantastic. Do stay with us for the

:28:38. > :28:44.8pm show because I can promise you an absolute cracker. I don't want to

:28:45. > :28:49.give it away, but the sparrowhawk stood up this morning from the eggs

:28:50. > :28:57.and we spotted a small crack. It could happen tonight. See you later.

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