:00:18. > :00:28.APPLAUSE. Thank you very much. Thank you very much indeed, outrageous!
:00:29. > :00:34.Never clapped at the beginning, it might be rubbish! Hello and welcome
:00:35. > :00:39.to Unsprung live from the RSPB's Minsmere in Suffolk, with 5,500
:00:40. > :00:43.different species of animal and we have some of the most interesting
:00:44. > :00:50.creatures here tonight by way of the audience. From the local community
:00:51. > :00:55.and from the RSPB itself. We are about coming to Suffolk and getting
:00:56. > :00:58.fantastic pictures of the wildlife and we are very involved and we want
:00:59. > :01:05.you to take part. This is entry-level, we are not big, clever
:01:06. > :01:08.scientists. If you have just got into birds, Unsprung is the place
:01:09. > :01:11.for you and we have experts and guests and it is my pleasure to
:01:12. > :01:16.introduce the first, his name is Jason Singh and he can do
:01:17. > :01:20.extraordinary things with his foes. He does the boxing and he creates
:01:21. > :01:26.acoustic sculptures. -- face. Thank you very much she.
:01:27. > :01:33.Jason has been here before and what he does is remarkable. We will set
:01:34. > :01:38.him a challenge, we have got some pictures of Minsmere and you will
:01:39. > :02:37.produce a vocal sculpture of this environment to kick us off.
:02:38. > :02:51.APPLAUSE. That is fantastic. That was really
:02:52. > :02:53.good. Very popular, you have just put lots of natural history sound
:02:54. > :02:59.man out of business! Our next guest is a gentleman I have
:03:00. > :03:03.known many years, he is an author and broadcaster and amongst the most
:03:04. > :03:11.accomplished general naturalist I have ever met, Mike Dilger. He knows
:03:12. > :03:16.his plants. You know you'll insects and uplands. A great all-rounder.
:03:17. > :03:22.Jack of all trades, master of none, goods to be here. We will catch up
:03:23. > :03:27.with you later. Lindsey, good guests alike, what have we got? We have had
:03:28. > :03:32.tweeted about the start of the show, people living the beat-boxing. The
:03:33. > :03:37.best way to get in touch is by using Twitter so if you use the hash tag
:03:38. > :03:42.Springwatch, joining the conversation right now. A lot of
:03:43. > :03:48.people got in touch last night about Martin's moth trap. Many pictures
:03:49. > :03:55.came in. The -- was the stinky socks in the truck? I think it was the
:03:56. > :04:01.trap! This is the first. This is fantastic, this is a lying hawk
:04:02. > :04:07.moth, by Mark. Which is which? I like the cemetery but not about the
:04:08. > :04:14.demonic staring! This is from Bob Whitfield. Yes, very beautiful
:04:15. > :04:21.animal. And this has been sent in, which is a beautiful picture. Yes,
:04:22. > :04:26.very striking moths. Do not taste them, but very better! That is
:04:27. > :04:33.weird. I speak from experience. -- better. Russell says, if moths like
:04:34. > :04:36.the light from the track, why not come out during the day? Good
:04:37. > :04:41.question. They basically do what other animals do in the day at night
:04:42. > :04:47.when they have it to themselves. It is like orcs and falcons out in the
:04:48. > :04:56.day catching birds and small mammals but they sleep at night -- Hawks.
:04:57. > :05:02.They can get the nectar at night when butterflies sleep. It is a
:05:03. > :05:08.massive anise -- niche separation. Keep sending your stuff, and we have
:05:09. > :05:13.the amazing website so keep getting in touch. On Monday, I showed you a
:05:14. > :05:18.picture of a Gosling peeking out of its mother's feathers. I thought
:05:19. > :05:23.that was fabulous and I went to look for other peeking animals and it is
:05:24. > :05:28.a bit of a theme on mine. I came up with this. I came up with a gallery.
:05:29. > :05:38.It is called PQ blinders. It is good, isn't it? This is the first
:05:39. > :05:47.one. It is a broad body chaser dragonfly but it is smiling. And
:05:48. > :05:57.peeping! This is a fledgling grey tit. How cute? That might be a photo
:05:58. > :06:02.fail really. This is so cute. That is a little fox. Keep sending those
:06:03. > :06:09.in. Let's move on to our quiz. Every night this week, we have set you a
:06:10. > :06:16.quiz. Melanie has an incredible collection of bones and skulls, we
:06:17. > :06:21.will hand over for the night's quiz. Hello, I am Melanie and this is my
:06:22. > :06:27.quiz for you. This is the skull of a very small Persian bird found in the
:06:28. > :06:31.UK which is on the decline. The beak is very short and powerful which
:06:32. > :06:36.tells you this is a seedy to love them insect eater which would have a
:06:37. > :06:45.longer and thinner week. What do you think the goal is? -- peak. She is
:06:46. > :06:53.so good. I like Melanie. A young naturalist and when -- and she isn't
:06:54. > :06:58.one thing, a collection, a skull collection. You can follow her on
:06:59. > :07:03.Twitter. You can go to the website to see that again and you have 25
:07:04. > :07:06.minutes to get those in. Click now! Our first guest will know the answer
:07:07. > :07:13.but he will not say is that at the moment. He would not say so! I not!
:07:14. > :07:16.Delighted to be here back here, I started working here a long time ago
:07:17. > :07:22.and I cut my natural history teeth in here. And you had great moments,
:07:23. > :07:26.we all do at Minsmere. It is one of the most biologically diverse
:07:27. > :07:32.places, woodlands, he fund, it has everything. I was working here as a
:07:33. > :07:38.volunteer wardens after I left university. I know, what went wrong?
:07:39. > :07:43.Was working as a modern, cleaning windows and showing people around
:07:44. > :07:49.and identifying birds. I was doing a common bird census. Identifying
:07:50. > :07:52.birds and putting it onto a map and Albert Ramos the backside of a
:07:53. > :08:04.reserve and I flushed a bird in front of me. It was instantly
:08:05. > :08:08.identifiable, the Crest went up. -- I was walking along the backside. I
:08:09. > :08:13.turned round to tell somebody and behind me was a wry neck. So I found
:08:14. > :08:19.my first two after spending five years working the tropical
:08:20. > :08:22.rainforests and never having a 32nd is like that before. Did you get a
:08:23. > :08:30.soft drink and a plastic toy with that? -- 30 seconds. But then you
:08:31. > :08:35.went on and started working in TV, everything went wrong and you went
:08:36. > :08:39.to work in TV. I sold my soul. What about the early days on TV? I loved
:08:40. > :08:45.it. I worked as a researcher for Bill body and I worked on something
:08:46. > :08:50.called nature's calendar -- goal body. Somebody called Christopher
:08:51. > :08:56.Pack. We worked together back in the day. You are under employed and we
:08:57. > :09:00.came together on this series on BBC Two and you went to BBC Two to do
:09:01. > :09:07.Springwatch and I went to do The One Show on BBC One. More than 250
:09:08. > :09:11.reports. 450, everything from bumblebees to busking sharks.
:09:12. > :09:18.Nowhere I have not travelled. Some things I have not seen, I have never
:09:19. > :09:27.seen quail before. This issue in the old days. -- this is you. You have
:09:28. > :09:31.been on Whitehill duty. I am the Guardian of the wagtail. When she
:09:32. > :09:35.gets hungry, she hops away and flies into the middle of the road and
:09:36. > :09:41.plays chicken with the lorries and tractors because she is feeding on
:09:42. > :09:44.the flies that get hit. So they are doing the hunting and she is
:09:45. > :09:51.gathering the spoils? She is reaping the dividends.
:09:52. > :09:57.That was the start of a very humble career. A great career. Did the
:09:58. > :10:02.Whitehill gets squashed? My job was to get to look after the wagtail, I
:10:03. > :10:09.was a contributor and I was in the pub and it got picked up by a magpie
:10:10. > :10:14.so it was an epic fail. It was not on my watch because I was in the
:10:15. > :10:19.pub. Sorry! You have written a new book. This is Nightingale is in
:10:20. > :10:27.November. You have chosen 12 species of bird and you tell us what happens
:10:28. > :10:32.during the year, when they are here. Birds are not out of mind and I
:10:33. > :10:36.followed 12 throughout the year. Like most people, I was keen on
:10:37. > :10:41.natural history and I mock my year not by Easter and Christmas but when
:10:42. > :10:45.the Mayflower is out and when the Nightingale starts to sink and when
:10:46. > :10:50.the cocoon returns. When the Red Wings, over in the autumn and
:10:51. > :10:57.Christmas Day is about the Robin. It is visitors like Swallow, puffin,
:10:58. > :11:01.winter visitors like this one and residents like the Robin and
:11:02. > :11:05.polluted and try and peeled the layers of what they do. Abell said
:11:06. > :11:13.to me, my swallow is back on April one. -- people. I tell the story of
:11:14. > :11:17.what they do when they are here and breeding and when they go down to
:11:18. > :11:21.the Western Cape. It is amazing because the technology is massively
:11:22. > :11:25.increasing and we follow birds now. Cocoon especially in the Nightingale
:11:26. > :11:31.and we know more about what they are doing when they are not here when
:11:32. > :11:34.they have gone away. This is Nightingale we can listen to now,
:11:35. > :11:44.they have only just stopped singing in this country. If I had has on the
:11:45. > :11:48.top of my head, they would be standing right now! -- have. It is
:11:49. > :11:53.an immensely beautiful song. The only sing for a couple of weeks
:11:54. > :11:57.while they are here and they migrate back to Africa. But I have heard
:11:58. > :12:03.they will sing in the winter time in West Africa. It is about holding
:12:04. > :12:09.territory and keeping the Mail birds at bay and attracting the ladies.
:12:10. > :12:13.And in Senegal and Gambia, they do small songs, practising their song
:12:14. > :12:19.and holding territory, which is their piece of real estate for the
:12:20. > :12:23.winter. So they are keeping other birds away to get the food? Yes, it
:12:24. > :12:30.is not for our listening pleasure, it is for the Nightingale. This is
:12:31. > :12:36.another sound from your book. That is a puffin underground. The most
:12:37. > :12:40.amazing thing, everybody knows when they come back, what are they doing
:12:41. > :12:44.the rest of the year? We still do not really know. They spread all
:12:45. > :12:50.over the Northwest Atlantic. Some have been found in Newfoundland.
:12:51. > :12:55.They have been found near North Africa. It needs to exchange its
:12:56. > :13:01.feathers, malts during the winter and when it is flightless, it goes
:13:02. > :13:05.into the water and it spends two monster swimming and diving for food
:13:06. > :13:09.and spends most of the winter underwater because it has to feed or
:13:10. > :13:14.the time to keep going. I cannot wait, I will read it over the year
:13:15. > :13:18.and dip into it every day. You have divided the month into three. Yes,
:13:19. > :13:25.early, middle and late. So you will know what is going on. You around,
:13:26. > :13:32.you can hinge and boxed set it. -- all year around. That sounded good
:13:33. > :13:37.in my head! Every guest on the programme, we set them a challenge.
:13:38. > :13:42.We provide them with a range of materials and we give them ten
:13:43. > :13:44.minutes to represent Minsmere or one of the species they find. What have
:13:45. > :13:58.you got today? I came up with an incredible
:13:59. > :14:06.mediocre picture. What do we think, audience? APPLAUSE
:14:07. > :14:11.Isn't it appalling? I am clapping my own mediocre art. I may have just
:14:12. > :14:19.done a Freudian slip. I have to judge this, Mike, it is pretty hard,
:14:20. > :14:23.I have to say. We have got Clive's here, and Lloyd's was propping up
:14:24. > :14:32.the bottom, it is a bit of a caricature, but I like it's punky
:14:33. > :14:42.quiff. I will give you middle ground. You are going in the middle,
:14:43. > :14:46.it could be revised later. I will take fair to middling any day of the
:14:47. > :14:53.week. Time to revisit our new feature, called Hide Chair, which we
:14:54. > :14:57.thought was a good name for a feature of sitting in a hide and
:14:58. > :15:05.having a chat. But Peter says we have missed a trick and it should
:15:06. > :15:09.have been called Hide and Speak, so for one week only, and with no
:15:10. > :15:18.expense spared, this is Hide and Speak. One hot chocolate, sir. Thank
:15:19. > :15:26.you very much, I am very grateful, where is the silver tray? We don't
:15:27. > :15:30.do silver trays with hot chocolate is, not dressed like this! Thank you
:15:31. > :15:37.very much, this is splendid, isn't it? In the heart of the city. Under
:15:38. > :15:43.a flight path. I know, but look at the landscape, it was not for those
:15:44. > :15:49.skyscrapers we could be in April landmark. Terrific. Some of the
:15:50. > :15:56.guests we have, to be discreet about it, they are novices but you are
:15:57. > :16:00.not. It was to keep our daughter interested, really. We would spot
:16:01. > :16:05.the birds in the garden, put out a lot of bird food, ten feeders out
:16:06. > :16:10.and bird boxes and we would keep a list of what came in. It got up to
:16:11. > :16:14.36 birds in the end. Many people know you for down to Nabi,
:16:15. > :16:20.obviously, but when you are birding on location, what do the rest of the
:16:21. > :16:28.cast make of it? -- we know you from downturn. -- from down to
:16:29. > :16:45.from Downton. That is a Czech EU's warbler. -- Chitty 's warbler. They
:16:46. > :16:48.have that erupted cool. I love this place, what a testament to one of
:16:49. > :16:57.our greatest conservationists, Peter Scott. He was fantastic. Shell but
:16:58. > :17:05.out there, can you see that? Very bold and bright leap marked bird. I
:17:06. > :17:12.have got something on you to do for me, this is the small boy coming out
:17:13. > :17:19.here. This is my dragonfly laver, is it? This is what we call the
:17:20. > :17:24.exuberant yay, the larvae has emerged from this into the adult
:17:25. > :17:30.insect. The dragonfly is twice the size of that. You could not see
:17:31. > :17:34.better in an African safari. In your own back garden. It shows you can
:17:35. > :17:45.enjoy it if you make a small resource. We have core bids out
:17:46. > :17:53.here. Carrion crows. One has got an egg. It is on that island. There is
:17:54. > :17:59.a great revival going on. It is flying with the egg coming towards
:18:00. > :18:08.us. That looks like a tufted duck's egg. What about that? Life and death
:18:09. > :18:17.in the city. Fantastic absolutely. APPLAUSE
:18:18. > :18:22.He was very keen on stuff, he counted birds. We had his own list.
:18:23. > :18:29.Lotsa people asking where that was filmed. Mind your own business! It
:18:30. > :18:35.was at the London Wetland Centre, at Barnes, south London, accessible by
:18:36. > :18:38.Chu, train, bus. Or walking. You can see wildlife anywhere and I have
:18:39. > :18:43.been searching around and there are some really strange places you can
:18:44. > :18:48.find wildlife, like this. This is a robin nesting in a bicycle helmet,
:18:49. > :18:53.if you can see that. I can come it is a helmet in a basket with a
:18:54. > :19:02.Robins nest. Quite a confusing mosaic to take in initially. This is
:19:03. > :19:08.a bluetit stuck in a feeder. Two seconds later he opened the bottom
:19:09. > :19:12.and it flew off. It must have squeezed through the hole, they are
:19:13. > :19:18.not meant to be to do that but I would take that feeder back to the
:19:19. > :19:25.manufacturers! I have found this brilliant picture of a bluetits
:19:26. > :19:29.nesting in some brick wall. Yes, any other hole in a building they can,
:19:30. > :19:35.let's hope that is not going into the system with the outlet coming
:19:36. > :19:43.in. That would be awkward. Excellent, OK, Jason please come and
:19:44. > :19:51.join us on the sofa. APPLAUSE Have a seat. Now, Jason, you have
:19:52. > :19:55.gravitated towards the musical but you have always had an interest in
:19:56. > :19:59.natural history. Absolutely, for as long as I can remember my world has
:20:00. > :20:04.been sound, before it was music. I have just always been aware of sound
:20:05. > :20:09.is coming in from, all sorts of sounds, as well as nature, but
:20:10. > :20:12.mechanical. Abstract. All sorts of weird stuff, trying to listen into
:20:13. > :20:17.the smallest of sounds as well as the biggest things I am surrounded
:20:18. > :20:22.by. You were out on the reserve today, did Jason give you an insight
:20:23. > :20:26.into the sound or are you visually orientated? I love birdsong but we
:20:27. > :20:30.got it from a different perspective, I was identifying the birdsong and
:20:31. > :20:34.Jason was doing an amazing rendition, picking up things I would
:20:35. > :20:42.never have picked up on. To be fair, we had a blast. Let's have a look.
:20:43. > :20:47.That is incredible! That is really good, you have got the rhythm of it!
:20:48. > :20:50.25 years ago I worked here as a volunteer warden but three months
:20:51. > :20:55.and this bird wasn't really here and now it is everywhere. As soon as you
:20:56. > :21:05.left, it came! Think there is a bidder the pattern, Mike Dilshan is
:21:06. > :21:09.gone, let's pile in the! Clubb chatty's warbler was the third.
:21:10. > :21:16.What about your musical instruments because they are varied? Started off
:21:17. > :21:27.with drums, percussion and turntable. Britain has gravitated
:21:28. > :21:36.towards drums. It then naturally started to open up. Now it is very
:21:37. > :21:41.much the voice and technology and the marriage of those two things.
:21:42. > :21:50.Aside from composing using that repertoire of insurance, you're
:21:51. > :21:53.working with young people. Performing is one thing and that is
:21:54. > :21:58.great, but to be able to share what you do and pass on something,
:21:59. > :22:01.especially experience is, it is a great honour. Working with young
:22:02. > :22:06.people is something very important to me. You go to the schools, get
:22:07. > :22:11.them out into the natural environment, what are you asking
:22:12. > :22:14.them to do? I am asking them to listen to themselves, their own
:22:15. > :22:19.voices, listen to the environment that they are in, and the sounds
:22:20. > :22:25.they are surrounded by, and in a way connecting them back to themselves
:22:26. > :22:29.but also where sounds come from, what is making the sounds, so it is
:22:30. > :22:32.more about questions, kids ask what is that, and one day that sound
:22:33. > :22:41.might not be there, that bird might not be there, so it is about raising
:22:42. > :22:44.the awareness. So they have got out and experienced that environment,
:22:45. > :22:47.and you have taught them to listen to something they have not heard
:22:48. > :22:52.before, and then let's take a look at them going back inside and
:22:53. > :22:55.reproducing the sounds. You are standing in front of the microphone,
:22:56. > :23:03.imagine that is the head of a person and you are looking at them face on.
:23:04. > :23:19.And again? LAUGHTER That's great.
:23:20. > :23:25.When you hear the nature sounds how do they make you feel? Happy, good,
:23:26. > :23:33.relaxed and every other positive feeling ever. Excellent stuff. You
:23:34. > :23:39.have got the microphone here. It is a binaural microphone. Basically, it
:23:40. > :23:45.records sounds as we hear sounds, in a similar kind of way. It is 360 and
:23:46. > :23:50.surround, and the whole idea was basically getting kids to sort of
:23:51. > :23:54.localised into it, but then in different parts, so you played it
:23:55. > :23:58.back they could get the feeling of space, and where sounds were coming
:23:59. > :24:02.from to again raise that awareness. You take the sounds they produce and
:24:03. > :24:09.go into your studio and mix all of this to create a soundscape, I
:24:10. > :24:12.suppose. For me, like I said before, it is bringing together voice and
:24:13. > :24:15.technology, so it is about taking the voice, shaping it, manipulating
:24:16. > :24:23.it, shifting it, so when it is played back, the question is is that
:24:24. > :24:27.my voice, is at the sound of a bird, is it a tropical bird? It is about
:24:28. > :24:29.questioning that. Let's take a look at some of the finished product, as
:24:30. > :24:42.it were. BIRD SOUNDS. It was relaxing. It
:24:43. > :24:47.made me feel like I was in a tropical island with lots of birds.
:24:48. > :24:53.Part of it, I felt like there was a real beef. If out like I was in the
:24:54. > :25:04.jungle. It was a beautiful experience being here. -- real be.
:25:05. > :25:10.Thank you for the lovely experience. APPLAUSE
:25:11. > :25:11.They obviously really enjoyed it but can we listen to some of your
:25:12. > :25:32.composition? It is amazing, it's fantastic. And
:25:33. > :25:40.those are the voices of the kids, that is all there voices. It sounds
:25:41. > :25:48.like an exotic jungle. It sounds like a rainforest. You can hear the
:25:49. > :25:53.full version on the website, all you need some headphones. Jason, that
:25:54. > :25:59.was absolutely top, mate, thank you very much. APPLAUSE
:26:00. > :26:04.Now, Jason, you have joined in the artist's challenge, show me your
:26:05. > :26:11.work, sir. This is where it all falls on the floor! You are good at
:26:12. > :26:18.sound, what about pictures? What do we think that? Industrial. On.
:26:19. > :26:21.APPLAUSE I have got to say, Jason, I think
:26:22. > :26:28.you are not only gifted in the world of sound but in the world of art, I
:26:29. > :26:32.would hang it, almost. I am not saying where, I might hang it in the
:26:33. > :26:35.toilet, but as far as I am concerned, that is top of the
:26:36. > :26:41.leaderboard so far. APPLAUSE I'm loving that, I'm truly loving
:26:42. > :26:45.it. Sort of Impressionist, you've got the colours, the feeling there,
:26:46. > :26:50.it is really good stuff! That's good, straight up there, good work.
:26:51. > :26:55.We have been so busy during the show that I have managed to pull out a
:26:56. > :26:59.tweet from an Erskine that says just watching Springwatch, does it count
:27:00. > :27:03.as an activity of 30 days wild, which starts today, doing 30 wild
:27:04. > :27:09.things from now on? Do you think it counts? I think it counts, I read
:27:10. > :27:15.somebody giving a hedgehog a topiary, the first thing for 30 days
:27:16. > :27:20.of wild. That was a joke, don't do that! Now the quiz, we set this
:27:21. > :27:28.challenge at the top of the show, have a look at what this scale is.
:27:29. > :27:33.This is what it looks like. -- what this skull is. A couple of thoughts
:27:34. > :27:42.online, a linnet, a chaffinch, any thoughts on the ED -- in the
:27:43. > :27:49.audience? Greenfinch? Letters find out what it is.
:27:50. > :27:58.This is the skull of a house sparrow. APPLAUSE
:27:59. > :28:06.I really liked the way she has prepared attempt ones, also clean
:28:07. > :28:09.and so white, just brilliant. Load people getting it right, though it
:28:10. > :28:13.trick people as well, Annie Davies, Neil Hoskins, so may people getting
:28:14. > :28:17.it right. Well done, and thank you to getting in touch forced up Chris,
:28:18. > :28:20.I just want to show you a couple of drawings that have come in because
:28:21. > :28:26.you set an arts challenge last night. Sorry, we can't, we have to
:28:27. > :28:28.get those tomorrow. Running out of time, keep sending your drawings
:28:29. > :28:35.income or we will try to feature them. This is coming up in the 8pm
:28:36. > :28:44.show, Lloyd, this is a guy falcon, absolutely beautiful. In the HPM
:28:45. > :28:47.show, we will see this against a Peregrine, Martin is testing their
:28:48. > :28:53.hunting styles on the back of a motorbike. Top Gear, eat your heart
:28:54. > :28:56.out. Many thanks to all of my guests, we are back at 6:30pm
:28:57. > :29:04.tomorrow on BBC Two, or It welcomes
:29:05. > :29:09.a million citizens a day,