Episode 4

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:00:16. > :00:29.CHEERING AND APPLAUSE Thank you very much indeed. It is a

:00:30. > :00:37.very, very, very warm welcome to Suffolk. Welcome to Springwatch

:00:38. > :00:43.Unsprung. On Thursday evening we have a real treat for you. If you

:00:44. > :00:49.are not a regular viewer, what Springwatch is about is coming here

:00:50. > :00:54.with cameras so we can peep into the intimate lives of the creatures that

:00:55. > :00:58.live here. These are some of the things we have been watching this

:00:59. > :01:05.week. Look at that! Wonderful little fox cubs. Martin has been after the

:01:06. > :01:11.moths. On the sure we have had ring clubbers, but the highlight is the

:01:12. > :01:17.golden eagle camp in Scotland. There were plenty of Roberts and the

:01:18. > :01:22.things that pursue them, the stoats and in the woods we have the

:01:23. > :01:28.sparrowhawks. And then we have the long tail tits. You will be able to

:01:29. > :01:36.see those in our eight o'clock programme. This is all about

:01:37. > :01:43.involving expertise, involving you and about our guests. Our guest this

:01:44. > :01:50.evening, when she was younger she aimed for the stars. She reached

:01:51. > :02:02.them. She is now the celestial gem that presents the sky at night. It

:02:03. > :02:08.is Maggie Adrin-Pocock. Our next guest is a 12-year-old boy. But he

:02:09. > :02:16.is already a force in the world of wildlife. He writes a blog and takes

:02:17. > :02:25.great pictures. It is, Alex. It is good to see you here. We like to get

:02:26. > :02:31.as many young people in as we possibly can and you are the first,

:02:32. > :02:36.thanks for pioneering VAT. Lotsa people have been watching the

:02:37. > :02:42.cameras on the website and we are getting a few questions. So I would

:02:43. > :02:47.start with a question tonight from Paul. He has been watching the

:02:48. > :02:52.Riedewald was once to know how it starts its nest off without the bits

:02:53. > :03:01.falling onto the ground? Have you ever tried to make a nest? I used to

:03:02. > :03:06.try that with the grass cuttings. I would get them and try and leave

:03:07. > :03:11.them together, it was impossible. Some birds have a specific nesting

:03:12. > :03:17.not to start it off. I wouldn't be surprised if reed warbler 's didn't

:03:18. > :03:21.have the same. They start with one thread and then they bind them

:03:22. > :03:26.together using the specific knot. And the speed as well. Martin will

:03:27. > :03:30.be talking about that later on. Incredible, we have Kirsty in the

:03:31. > :03:48.audience. You have been sketching from our cameras? Pretty good. We

:03:49. > :03:55.like these stone curlews. Check out this tweet from Rachel, who is an

:03:56. > :04:01.Olympic canoeist. She is training for Rio at the moment whilst

:04:02. > :04:08.watching Spring watch. How brilliant is that. She has a duckling on the

:04:09. > :04:16.front. She is a sprint canoeist? Surprised she hasn't sprinted off

:04:17. > :04:23.with it on there, leaving the rest of its family behind. In honour of

:04:24. > :04:28.Maggie, I have looked through the fantastic pictures you keep sending

:04:29. > :04:34.in. Some nocturnal ones I love these, but I thought you could put

:04:35. > :04:35.your critical eye across them. Look at that,

:04:36. > :04:35.in. Some nocturnal ones I love these, but I thought you could put

:04:36. > :04:40.your critical eye across them. Look at that, I have started strong. It

:04:41. > :04:46.is not quite central, is it. Hold on, maybe Maggie would like that one

:04:47. > :04:54.because you can see the details on the moon. I thought it was great.

:04:55. > :05:01.The second one, a few badges. I do like the badges in the foreground

:05:02. > :05:09.but the tale of the one behind... It is a bit distract ring. The daisies,

:05:10. > :05:20.it is a bit celestial. Final one, this is my best one, look at this!

:05:21. > :05:27.That is a mouse silhouette. I am going to give that an astonishing

:05:28. > :05:34.nine. That is one of the best we have ever had. Mike, one of the best

:05:35. > :05:40.pictures we have ever had. Look at the whiskers and the Silver outline.

:05:41. > :05:48.It is a cracking image. Amazing, keep sending them in. Here is how to

:05:49. > :05:54.get in touch. It has never been easier to get in touch with us here,

:05:55. > :06:02.where ever you are and whether you use a phone, laptop or tablet. The

:06:03. > :06:11.easiest way is to go online and be our friend on social media. Like us

:06:12. > :06:17.on Facebook and you can post comments and picked just to our

:06:18. > :06:24.wall. Follow us on instant gram and tweet us at BBC Spring watch. If you

:06:25. > :06:29.cannot remember this, it is explained on the website. Something

:06:30. > :06:35.we would love you to get in touch about is the quiz. Every night we

:06:36. > :06:46.had set you a school quiz set by Melanie. Here she is. I am Melanie.

:06:47. > :06:53.This is my quiz for you. This is the only UK mammal where in the adult,

:06:54. > :07:00.the jaw is perfectly articulated. It has very small orbit is where the

:07:01. > :07:06.eyes would be. It means it doesn't rely heavily on its eyesight. Can

:07:07. > :07:11.you tell me what this is? We like Melanie very much. Anyone here know

:07:12. > :07:25.what it is? Don't shout it out now. Get in touch. I am moving over to

:07:26. > :07:26.Maggie. The Sky At Night. You used to

:07:27. > :07:31.Get in touch. I am moving over to Maggie. The Sky At Night. You used

:07:32. > :07:40.to watch it as a kid and now you present it. As a kid I got special

:07:41. > :07:49.permission because it was on late and I loved Patrick Moore. To be on

:07:50. > :07:54.it, the first one I was like a rabbit in the headlights. Patrick

:07:55. > :08:02.Moore, he was a national treasure, for so many generations? He did it

:08:03. > :08:09.for 57 years. Once a month, and only missed one episode. I would like to

:08:10. > :08:17.have a record like that. What was it that drew you to an interest in the

:08:18. > :08:25.night sky? When I was about three years old, I used to watch a cartoon

:08:26. > :08:30.on the BBC called The Clangers. Let's take a look at this... Sailing

:08:31. > :08:34.majestically through the myriad of stars. Perhaps this star is also

:08:35. > :08:43.home for somebody. Can we imagine the sort of people that might live

:08:44. > :08:58.on a star like this? That is a a Clangers. It brings a tear to my

:08:59. > :09:12.eye. I liked the planet, and I love it the Soup Dragon. The mother

:09:13. > :09:19.Clanger had a beautiful garden. You went into astrophysics and into

:09:20. > :09:26.space science? Yes, I build instruments that go into space and

:09:27. > :09:33.it all started with the The Clangers. I am dyslexic and I was

:09:34. > :09:38.put into a remedial class, and it is because of The Clangers, I became

:09:39. > :09:45.interested in space. This is you at Nasa? It is the International Space

:09:46. > :09:53.Station. They have a mock-up on the ground, so not like Tim Peake, I am

:09:54. > :09:59.not up there. But I would love to go. Wouldn't you? Yes! Some people

:10:00. > :10:04.saying no. I would love to get up there. Just to see the whole of

:10:05. > :10:09.planet Earth. Slightly more antiquated piece of equipment? That

:10:10. > :10:16.is up to Greenwich Observatory. We are going to talk about the lunar

:10:17. > :10:23.cycle, it plays a massive role, not only in space and what happens to

:10:24. > :10:29.our planet, but the animal life. We have our little owls and we have

:10:30. > :10:31.been watching them live this week. This is alive victory of

:10:32. > :10:32.have our little owls and we have been watching them live this week.

:10:33. > :10:41.This is alive victory of one of our owls. I cannot tell you if it is

:10:42. > :10:47.male or female. It is quite hard, isn't it? Earlier in the week, we

:10:48. > :10:52.cannot see the youngsters. They are hunting for the little ones. Owls

:10:53. > :10:56.have very good nocturnal vision, but there are other animals that are

:10:57. > :11:02.more effective, they get longer hunting time when there is a full

:11:03. > :11:09.moon. They will carry on reading through the night when there is a

:11:10. > :11:16.full moon. When it is cloudy, everything is safe. But if we had a

:11:17. > :11:22.very bright full moon, those gulls would carry on hunting. They stay

:11:23. > :11:27.indoors when the moon is full because they know the predators are

:11:28. > :11:31.out there and they have debtor vision because of the extra

:11:32. > :11:37.illumination. The male will only come to join the female or replace

:11:38. > :11:43.the female in the Burrow if there is no moonlight. What else have we got

:11:44. > :11:49.in terms of our nocturnal animals here? Last night we were out and

:11:50. > :12:08.listening for a species which comes out in the evening. Night jar, comes

:12:09. > :12:16.back to the winter and produces that astonishing call. Martin was out

:12:17. > :12:24.looking for it. I think we have got a night jar live on our night

:12:25. > :12:31.camera. Let's have a look. And there it is! I don't believe it, we have

:12:32. > :12:37.been waiting. We have had tantalising sounds! They are dark,

:12:38. > :12:44.but it is a camera that looks at heat. The thing is, the quality of

:12:45. > :12:49.those images might not have been for the likes you get on Sir David

:12:50. > :12:54.Attenborough's programmes, but when you are looking into deep space,

:12:55. > :13:00.some of the images are not good quality, sometimes it is just a

:13:01. > :13:07.spec? Yes, but it means so much. One taken by the Voyager in the 1970s,

:13:08. > :13:15.it looked back and you could see the planets of the solar system and you

:13:16. > :13:23.could make out the earth. It was hardly a pixel on the image, and it

:13:24. > :13:29.was where we lived. This is something we have made and sent out

:13:30. > :13:38.into space and it was looking back at us. I like it when the earth is

:13:39. > :13:45.reduced to a pixel, it puts us all in our place. Maggie, every guess

:13:46. > :13:52.that comes on the programme, we set a challenge. It is called Drawn To

:13:53. > :13:58.Be Wild and you get ten minutes onto the reserve and represent a species

:13:59. > :14:02.that you find. You have been out this afternoon and you have done

:14:03. > :14:10.your work, let's have a look. We tried to rent the Hubble telescope,

:14:11. > :14:16.but we couldn't afford it. We have a mixed media peace. There is a face,

:14:17. > :14:24.almost like a green man of the forest. That is what I was trying to

:14:25. > :14:24.create. What you think of the Green man!

:14:25. > :14:29.APPLAUSE Great. I was gathering that had

:14:30. > :14:41.fallen, it was lovely to see it. It is a firm favourite, but is up to me

:14:42. > :14:47.to judge it. Here we go. I will put it a joint one appear with Lucy

:14:48. > :14:51.Jones, who also used mixed media, but not the heady heights of Jason's

:14:52. > :14:58.impressionism from last night. But we do revise the leaderboard from

:14:59. > :15:02.time to time, so it might go up, or down. Presenter on Springwatch,

:15:03. > :15:05.Michaela Strachan is passionate about wildlife rehabilitation and

:15:06. > :15:09.she went to one of the biggest rescue centres to help the

:15:10. > :15:12.volunteers. We went along to see how she got on.

:15:13. > :15:20.I have come to Cheshire to volunteer.

:15:21. > :15:26.Basically, I've got to do the job that volunteers do. They don't get

:15:27. > :15:35.to just look at cute animals, they get to do a lot of cleaning. Once I

:15:36. > :15:40.start cleaning, it has to be spotless! I will be here all day,

:15:41. > :15:46.you know, just cleaning this one pen. That is adorable. What is the

:15:47. > :15:51.rehab process? What we would do, we would get a small cub like this, and

:15:52. > :15:57.look after them, and then we pair them into a group of about five, a

:15:58. > :16:02.family group. And then the process would be integrating them into that

:16:03. > :16:10.social group and then we move them outside to the rehab cages. There

:16:11. > :16:18.you go. They are very cute and cuddly and this is why people are

:16:19. > :16:21.too quick to pick them up. CYAN We have blackbird fledglings there,

:16:22. > :16:27.which we will feed, then box up and clean out. I am mummy blackbird,

:16:28. > :16:32.here we go. We have watched these in the nest on Springwatch a lot being

:16:33. > :16:35.fed. I don't think I have ever fed baby blackbirds before. How much

:16:36. > :16:40.longer are you going to be feeding them? They are on hourly feeds at

:16:41. > :16:44.the moment. As they get bigger, you will notice they are not so keen

:16:45. > :16:48.each hour, so we will reduce that down to two hourly and three hourly

:16:49. > :16:58.so you can see they are eating on their own. Much of the time here is

:16:59. > :17:03.spent dealing with injuries. This Canada goose has an incredible

:17:04. > :17:08.story? This Canada goose came in a week ago and he actually had a

:17:09. > :17:12.crossbow arrow all the way through his back, just about here. It came

:17:13. > :17:16.out the opposite side of his abdomen, under here. You can see

:17:17. > :17:20.where the arrow has entered. Yes. It was coming all the way out through

:17:21. > :17:24.here. Someone has used this goose as target practice? Yes. That is

:17:25. > :17:28.terrible. Have you experienced that sort of thing a lot? A couple of

:17:29. > :17:33.times, we have had them with crossbows in, yeah, and swans as

:17:34. > :17:37.well, so... I find that absolutely astonishing, that he is doing so

:17:38. > :17:49.well? It is amazing. They are very resilient. Clearly. He's got his eye

:17:50. > :17:57.on me! We are going to take him out on to Pool 1. Get off! We have to be

:17:58. > :18:03.careful because he will probably snap his wings out. That was quite

:18:04. > :18:07.relaxed. He can't wait to go. It's been a busy day here. I have had a

:18:08. > :18:11.great time. It is also incredibly rewarding to know you are helping

:18:12. > :18:15.these animals on their road to recovery. What would you say to

:18:16. > :18:17.people that think, oh yes, I fancy being a volunteer? They should go

:18:18. > :18:31.for it. Definitely. A lot of it is done by volunteers.

:18:32. > :18:34.Chris, you know earlier this spring, the BBC launched their Do Something

:18:35. > :18:39.Great campaign. If you head over to our website, we have a page about

:18:40. > :18:42.it. I can show you it now. That will give you some great ideas about

:18:43. > :18:47.getting involved and we would love you to do that. Do do it. We have

:18:48. > :18:57.had a couple of suggestions in already. Have a look at this

:18:58. > :19:03.picture. This is from Viola Ross-Smith. Alice has made a bee

:19:04. > :19:07.house as well. Lots of stuff you can do at home. You don't need a big

:19:08. > :19:10.garden. If you have a window box, you can get involved. There's been a

:19:11. > :19:17.lot on social media about not picking up animals, not picking up

:19:18. > :19:21.young fawns at this time of year. Normally, the adults do a better job

:19:22. > :19:27.than us. If you do find anything, leave it. Excellent. Thanks. Shall

:19:28. > :19:31.we go to Alex? Let's do it. I have been looking forward to this. Let's

:19:32. > :19:33.have a massive round of applause for Alex.

:19:34. > :19:46.We are keen to champion the young naturalist. There is a possible

:19:47. > :19:50.extinction. You are here saying, no, that is not true, I'm mad into

:19:51. > :19:55.wildlife. You write a blog. What do you write about? I write about

:19:56. > :20:00.whatever I see when I go out for a walk, so whatever I see. What are

:20:01. > :20:07.the favourite things you like to see? Most likely, it is hares, I

:20:08. > :20:12.come across them quite a bit. Sometimes I find badgers wandering

:20:13. > :20:16.in the fields or I just go out and find the badgers and just watch them

:20:17. > :20:20.and take photos of them. It is better being out than in? Yes. I

:20:21. > :20:28.don't know about your bedroom, I never found a badger in mine! When

:20:29. > :20:32.you are out and about, you carry a camera with you. You are a keen

:20:33. > :20:38.photographer? I do. Can we see some of your photos? You know I am

:20:39. > :20:45.ruthlessly... Yes. He is really ruthless. Let's have a look. What

:20:46. > :20:49.have we got first? We have a blue butterfly there. I quite like that.

:20:50. > :20:56.What I like about it, it is all about the colour. The rest of the

:20:57. > :21:07.frame is quite mooted. I quite like that. If I was going to be

:21:08. > :21:10.ruthless... Brace yourself! The thing is, Alex, if you were to tell

:21:11. > :21:15.me that was the Best Picture in the world, I would say, what are you

:21:16. > :21:18.going to do tomorrow? I think, as photographers, as artists, we can

:21:19. > :21:22.all continue to improve. We will only improve if we are critical of

:21:23. > :21:29.our work so we see what we have done wrong and we can put it right next

:21:30. > :21:33.time. Yes! This one is a badger. Peopling from some thistles there.

:21:34. > :21:41.It is in daylight. Where did you find that? This was a badger cub

:21:42. > :21:45.and, like I said earlier, I was out on a walk and... That was lucky.

:21:46. > :21:49.There were six of them wandering about. In daylight? Yes. Wow! What

:21:50. > :21:55.an amazing opportunity. You have captured that one. Let's move on to

:21:56. > :21:59.the next one. Now, we are talking! I do like that one. I like the mix of

:22:00. > :22:03.colours. Hold that up nicely so we can see that. That is perfect. I'm

:22:04. > :22:07.not so sure about the slug hole in the middle. That is not your fault!

:22:08. > :22:12.Unless you had a nibble of the mushroom! I like the richness of

:22:13. > :22:16.colours. That says autumn to me. I can almost smell the decay in there.

:22:17. > :22:21.The picture is communicating and that is what photos are all about.

:22:22. > :22:24.Let's move on to the last one. Now, that is a good photo. We like that

:22:25. > :22:34.one. I love the colours. The colours are

:22:35. > :22:43.lovely. All the stubble compliments the hare. This is a prize-winning

:22:44. > :22:48.picture. Yes. What did you win? The Young Mammal Photographer of the

:22:49. > :22:53.Year. First place? Yes. Fantastic! Let's have a quick look at your

:22:54. > :22:58.camera. You are not armed with a very big, posh camera with massive

:22:59. > :23:03.long lenses, like all of the people that work on Springwatch. You are

:23:04. > :23:09.using a modest camera? It is just a small bridge camera and with a small

:23:10. > :23:14.built-in zoom. It is really, it's got amazing zoom in it, it goes

:23:15. > :23:17.really far if you are taking photos... You have proved the point.

:23:18. > :23:22.It is not the camera, it's the photographer who does the work. Yes.

:23:23. > :23:26.And sometimes people can do good things with mobile phones. Yes, we

:23:27. > :23:31.have had this one that has been sent in. This is a great picture. If you

:23:32. > :23:35.have a look... Can you see that? Yes. What do you think about that?

:23:36. > :23:41.She has taken that with her phone and a little lens that she has

:23:42. > :23:46.clipped on? Wow! The whole face of the moth or butterfly, whatever it

:23:47. > :23:53.is, is pin-sharp and all the eyes are pin-sharp. The one thing that is

:23:54. > :24:02.getting me is that is just out of focus. Points out of ten? Seven.

:24:03. > :24:08.Yes. I like it. That's good. We've got one that will score higher? Let

:24:09. > :24:17.me see. Let me put up this one. This is over here with me. It is on a

:24:18. > :24:22.mobile phone. Come on! Alex? I like how it's just face-on and it's

:24:23. > :24:29.looking slightly away. What about that stone? Yes. Yes. That green bit

:24:30. > :24:34.in the corner, you are not loving that, are you? No. I thought it was

:24:35. > :24:39.good. How many points? Six. Top bloke! You have been out and about

:24:40. > :24:41.today with Maggie, and you have done a bit of filming. This is what you

:24:42. > :24:57.have been up to. What have you spotted? A damselfly

:24:58. > :25:05.just down there. Wow. Can I get a photo? Yes. He is waving one of his

:25:06. > :25:07.legs. It is wonderful here. It is above and below and everywhere! I

:25:08. > :25:18.love the colour. Good luck with the photography. Stay

:25:19. > :25:23.critical. You will keep getting better. You have done a challenge

:25:24. > :25:26.for us as well. You have been out and about putting your artistic

:25:27. > :25:33.skills, not in photographic terms, but in other terms, what have you

:25:34. > :25:37.got here? That is interesting. Let's have a look. We have a photo

:25:38. > :25:41.montage, it is a first. We haven't had one of those. It is myself and

:25:42. > :25:44.my good colleagues in a hide. What do we think? Yes!

:25:45. > :25:57.Potentially, it is audacious. You have gone for something a little

:25:58. > :26:01.less conventional there. You heading for the Turner Prize? If you had

:26:02. > :26:05.some whacky music, it was in the dark and playing a video, you might

:26:06. > :26:09.be in with a chance. I will score it down here with Mike Dilger's. No, I

:26:10. > :26:11.will put it alongside Clive's. That is reasonable. There we are. A round

:26:12. > :26:26.of applause for Alex. Mid-table. Let me show you another

:26:27. > :26:39.bit of artwork. She has come from Essex. And what have you got here?

:26:40. > :26:43.These are two models, which I did for school projects and I chose

:26:44. > :26:56.evolution and I thought about it and I thought I will do evolution of the

:26:57. > :27:05.dove to the feral pigeon. It's evolved, obviously(!) It is

:27:06. > :27:09.brilliant. Evolution? Papier-mache pigeons? That is worth another round

:27:10. > :27:14.of applause. APPLAUSE

:27:15. > :27:19.We must resolve the quiz. This is a reminder of that skull from earlier.

:27:20. > :27:28.I have had a few guesses. Victoria says otter. Mike says beaver. Anyone

:27:29. > :27:30.got any thoughts? Badger. Badgers? I will hand over to Mel for the

:27:31. > :27:45.answer. So, this skull is of a European

:27:46. > :27:49.badger. There you go. Well done in the audience. Loads of people

:27:50. > :27:57.getting it right. Jenny Lewis got it right. So many people. Yes. Fused

:27:58. > :28:02.nasal processes here, the crest at the back which has those massive

:28:03. > :28:07.muscles on, all give-aways when it comes to the badger skull. I have a

:28:08. > :28:12.few of these under my bed. Don't forget to head to Facebook after our

:28:13. > :28:17.programme because Brett Westwood will be on air. He is a fantastic

:28:18. > :28:19.naturalist. It is worth sticking with him. Thank you very much to

:28:20. > :28:31.Maggie for coming in this evening. And to Alex as well, of course. Do

:28:32. > :28:34.keep up the photography. I can see you winning more competitions. Your

:28:35. > :28:39.mum might buy you a bigger camera! It is not about the camera, it is

:28:40. > :28:44.about the photographer! That is it for our Unsprung. Join us at 8.00pm

:28:45. > :28:48.for our 8.00pm show, Springwatch. We have some real treats for you. I can

:28:49. > :28:53.show you more of the golden eagle, more of the stone curlew and those

:28:54. > :28:57.long-tailed tits. We will see you again tomorrow at 6.30pm.