:00:16. > :00:25.APPLAUSE Thank you very much. What an
:00:26. > :00:31.exuberant welcome that is, to Springwatch Unsprung. Coming to you
:00:32. > :00:37.on another fine, sunny spring evening from Minsmere with a great
:00:38. > :00:42.crowd of people who are really going to join in tonight, we hope! You
:00:43. > :00:49.have picked the right evening to come along. We've got some real
:00:50. > :00:58.treats in store both in Unsprung and in our other programme at 8pm. Now,
:00:59. > :01:02.this is a bluetits nest but it has got great
:01:03. > :01:18.-- it has got greytits in. Yes, a predator is trying to get into the
:01:19. > :01:25.box. You can tell from the wagging tail at the end that it is in fact a
:01:26. > :01:31.stoat. A stoat tried to get into our tit box at lunchtime. The other nest
:01:32. > :01:38.we are watching is this one, it's now empty. This was a nest which had
:01:39. > :01:50.five young in but now it's empty, and why is that? We can show you
:01:51. > :01:54.because this afternoon... A female adder appeared and the nest was
:01:55. > :02:01.vacated. The adder went in to have a sniff around unfortunately for them
:02:02. > :02:08.all the chicks had gone from the nest. Were they going to survive?
:02:09. > :02:12.Again, to find out, you will have to join us later. On Unsprung, we like
:02:13. > :02:17.to tease you towards our main programme but we have got great
:02:18. > :02:23.company here this evening. Our first guest is an author can he is a poet,
:02:24. > :02:26.he's a writer, a musician. He is an extraordinarily gifted man who is a
:02:27. > :02:32.passion of the can and also very keen to protect animal rights. He's
:02:33. > :02:40.the and only Benjamin Zephaniah. APPLAUSE
:02:41. > :02:49.Our next guest is a young lady who I've known for a few years. She is
:02:50. > :02:52.one of a new wave of young British naturalists who are coming together
:02:53. > :02:57.using something that we didn't have when we were kids, social media. She
:02:58. > :03:01.is using it to great effect, to bring others into the fold and also
:03:02. > :03:05.to work with other young people to turn them into great young
:03:06. > :03:09.naturalists too. It is Georgia Locock.
:03:10. > :03:16.APPLAUSE Lindsey, what's happening?
:03:17. > :03:32.So exciting on the live cameras. So many messages has come in -- have
:03:33. > :03:38.come in. This is one from Holly. Stoat at the door, was that from the
:03:39. > :03:42.Shining? Here's Johnny! Gale Sayers it's all kicking off on the webcams,
:03:43. > :03:47.which it is. -- Gail says. Everyone's been getting very excited
:03:48. > :03:49.about the record-breaking Arctic terns, seen on Springwatch last
:03:50. > :04:01.night. They are record breakers. 97,000
:04:02. > :04:07.kilometres, to put it into miles that's about 60,000 miles. It's a
:04:08. > :04:10.long way and I have to say that was the first one they have covered and
:04:11. > :04:14.they have another 14 of them, so the record may be broken again at some
:04:15. > :04:20.stage in the next couple of weeks. The exciting, Sony people getting in
:04:21. > :04:23.touch about that. We would love to hear your record-breaking stats from
:04:24. > :04:37.your garden. Have you got hundreds of caterpillars? This is from Johann
:04:38. > :04:48.Nilsson, who says there are 18 in there! Stoats can't get through but
:04:49. > :04:53.weasels can. 18 in one nest, that makes you wonder whether it is one
:04:54. > :04:55.with a brood of youngsters or if others have been laid in there as
:04:56. > :04:59.well? That is such a lot. Send in your pictures
:05:00. > :05:01.and stories using #springwatch. We are also encouraging you to get
:05:02. > :05:13.involved with our quiz. Hi, I'm Sophie and this is my quiz
:05:14. > :05:19.for you. This bird is a member of the thrush family.
:05:20. > :05:28.As ever, I am watching Twitter like a hawk, get in touch on hashtag
:05:29. > :05:34.#springwatch. Now, I've been looking
:05:35. > :05:37.through all your images of peeking animals for my favourite
:05:38. > :05:44.Peeky Blinders. A little bit of grass in the
:05:45. > :05:50.foreground! Have a look at this number. This is a dragonfly with a
:05:51. > :05:58.clothes pegs for a body. I like that, I like the symmetry! That is a
:05:59. > :06:08.neat shot, very good. CE if you can spot the peaky blinder in this shot.
:06:09. > :06:18.Oh yes, the star peaky blinder! Now, let's move over to Benjamin. I
:06:19. > :06:23.really wasn't expecting that! You should be, you are a man of many
:06:24. > :06:29.talents! But you started life in the city, in central Birmingham. Not
:06:30. > :06:35.much wildlife how did you connect? Well, first of all, parks. Aston
:06:36. > :06:39.Park. We had these shrubs and we used to call it the jungle and we
:06:40. > :06:46.would get on our hands and knees and pretend we were in the jungle. I was
:06:47. > :06:51.Tarzana and my sister was Jane! Any bid of nature I was desperate to get
:06:52. > :06:56.close to it. You did get out of the city and play a weird game of
:06:57. > :07:01.getting lost? Yeah, in those days you could. Nowadays people worry
:07:02. > :07:06.about their children and won't let them out of their sight. But we had
:07:07. > :07:12.a game, this is what we're going to do today, we're going to get lost!
:07:13. > :07:16.You would find your way home. You couldn't leave that to date. You
:07:17. > :07:21.would leave the house, go out, deliberately get lost and then have
:07:22. > :07:26.to find your way back? You would discover so much. I mean, I met so
:07:27. > :07:32.many girlfriends like that! I should get lost myself!
:07:33. > :07:38.LAUGHTER It was great fun. Lycos said, people
:07:39. > :07:41.weren't so, kind of them are protective of their children. You
:07:42. > :07:47.would come back with a few scars or whatever. Those were the days,
:07:48. > :07:54.weren't they? We could go out and connect with nature ourselves and
:07:55. > :07:57.without mum and dad looking over our shoulders. Now you've escaped to the
:07:58. > :08:01.country and you enjoy wildlife there? Yes, I've moved to the Fens
:08:02. > :08:08.in Lincolnshire and I absolutely love it will stop cities have their
:08:09. > :08:13.thing going but the air you breathe in the countryside is just so
:08:14. > :08:17.different. People say to me, how long do you run for, how far do you
:08:18. > :08:23.go? I say, I don't know, because if I see a squirrel I will stop and
:08:24. > :08:29.talk to it! I see herons as I live near Dykes in Lincolnshire, so I
:08:30. > :08:33.will start whispering to the herons. I have to go to the point, what are
:08:34. > :08:41.you saying to the herons and the scrolls? I've been -- I say to them,
:08:42. > :08:47.I've been an Peaky Blinders, have you been on Springwatch?
:08:48. > :08:53.LAUGHTER It depends what time I go out.
:08:54. > :08:59.Sometimes you see the night animals going home and the day animals
:09:00. > :09:02.waking up. I just love it. If that connecting to time and place, the
:09:03. > :09:06.sense of season, all of those sort of things. Yes. Well, since I've
:09:07. > :09:11.been in the countryside are really have appreciated seasons more, and
:09:12. > :09:19.the weather, which are used to take for granted. In the city, it's like,
:09:20. > :09:24.do I need an umbrella or not? I started to grow my own vegetables
:09:25. > :09:28.and I loved that. I love vegetables, I love the weather, I love the
:09:29. > :09:33.animals. But some of the animals nick my vegetables! I kill it
:09:34. > :09:49.multiculturalism! Well, Here is a good question for you, not
:09:50. > :09:53.one I've been able to answer myself. Why is it in the UK that there are
:09:54. > :10:00.far fewer black or Asian people who get into nature? There must be a
:10:01. > :10:07.cultural difference? It's interesting. My parents and many
:10:08. > :10:13.people in that generation came here to work in hospitals in cities, in
:10:14. > :10:17.urban centres. So they're not really living in the countryside. The
:10:18. > :10:21.strange thing is, though, when my mother comes to see me in
:10:22. > :10:26.Lincolnshire, she says, it looks just like to make a! Because it
:10:27. > :10:36.does. They come from lots of rural parts back in Jamaica -- it looks
:10:37. > :10:46.like Jamaica. A lot of Sikhs come from the Punjab which is very
:10:47. > :10:52.countryside. I think it's just because our parents came here for
:10:53. > :10:59.work really. After that they lost touch with the countryside. Yes. I
:11:00. > :11:02.did a TV programme about canals around Birmingham and why black
:11:03. > :11:10.people and Asian people don't tend to use them. They said it wouldn't
:11:11. > :11:16.be cooled to write home, and say we live on a boat. It wouldn't be seen
:11:17. > :11:21.as progress! But how many generations before it changes? I
:11:22. > :11:30.grew up in a city as well... It is changing now. When I moved to the
:11:31. > :11:40.countryside, some people weren't worried about a black man moving
:11:41. > :11:47.into a small village. Unfortunately it was white liberals who would say
:11:48. > :11:52.the city is a black man's place and the countryside isn't. I would say I
:11:53. > :11:56.fought for our rights as British people and it wasn't just to live in
:11:57. > :11:59.Brixton! It's a great country and we should be able to live anywhere.
:12:00. > :12:03.That is certainly the case. We want as many people as possible these
:12:04. > :12:05.days to engage with nature because we're never going to look after it
:12:06. > :12:11.otherwise. We have also asked our viewers
:12:12. > :12:24.to send in poem tweets or "Twoems", Stoat and add on the prowl, intent
:12:25. > :12:29.upon a most foul. Looking for an easy kill, both with young and
:12:30. > :12:35.mouths to fill. Wonderful. It's good, isn't it? Deadly calm, nice
:12:36. > :12:46.and cool not silent, something moved. Note in darkness, but eyes
:12:47. > :12:56.can see, run for your life, be free! Oh! It's really good. Beautiful. I'm
:12:57. > :13:05.not so sure about the delivery on that last one! When it comes to art,
:13:06. > :13:10.poetry is one of your talents. But we always set our guest a challenge
:13:11. > :13:18.here. We give them ten minutes and a range of artists's materials and
:13:19. > :13:24.they have to reproduce part of the Minsmere vibe. Soap, Benjamin, what
:13:25. > :13:30.have you come up with? There's an enormous amount of reluctance here!
:13:31. > :13:35.This is really embarrassing! I've never drawn or painted anything in
:13:36. > :13:39.my life. That is so strange, you're so creative in many ways but you've
:13:40. > :13:48.never turned your hand to drawing or painting? I can't do everything,
:13:49. > :13:53.Chris. Well, we can see that! Note what do we think?
:13:54. > :14:00.APPLAUSE LAUGHTER
:14:01. > :14:05.Can I talk about it and explain it? You can try but it would take a long
:14:06. > :14:10.time! Benjamin, I never really one for imparting advice but I will pass
:14:11. > :14:16.on some I was given myself. It was given by a man called Clint Eastwood
:14:17. > :14:19.and he said, "A man should know his limitations", in Dirty Harry or
:14:20. > :14:24.something like that. I'm going to put it down here with the other
:14:25. > :14:29.drawings we've had. Larry Lamb... I'm going to stick it in the middle
:14:30. > :14:38.there with the drawings we've had in our Drawn Two B Wild competition.
:14:39. > :14:39.What did you think? Well, I do love your poems, I think they're
:14:40. > :14:47.brilliant. Not a bad drawing! All of us are here because we love
:14:48. > :14:50.wildlife, but many of our viewers are elderly and can't get out
:14:51. > :14:52.and enjoy it. There is one man who is trying
:14:53. > :14:55.to bring wildlife inside. I went along to see just how he's
:14:56. > :15:17.doing that. Hello, I am Simon Watts, I make
:15:18. > :15:22.wildlife films. Somewhere local, in the park, or somewhere bit exotic,
:15:23. > :15:33.as today, we are off to the Highlands of Scotland. For your job,
:15:34. > :15:37.you were the district nurse? Yes. How did nature come back into your
:15:38. > :15:42.life? You were working somewhere completely different. One of the
:15:43. > :15:48.ladies run a club, she heard about my interest and suggested I come
:15:49. > :15:53.along. I did, nervously, and her reaction was surprising. Through my
:15:54. > :15:58.youth I found it hard to impress on people the joy I felt about seeing
:15:59. > :16:04.things, but here I had an amazing audience. That must be special. Yes,
:16:05. > :16:13.it takes all the boxes. It means it is purposeful. It actually is.
:16:14. > :16:19.Despite the severity, I was not there to admire the beauty. I was
:16:20. > :16:24.there because that patch of grass in front of you is like a Roman
:16:25. > :16:31.amphitheatre. As we get close, you noticed the black dots are birds. It
:16:32. > :16:38.got amazing reactions. Sometimes emotional reactions. It was positive
:16:39. > :16:43.as well. Everybody has a part of them that loves nature, whether they
:16:44. > :16:48.love it or not. There is a lot I had not seen, which is interesting. I
:16:49. > :16:54.enjoyed it, from beginning to end, it was lovely. How does it help you,
:16:55. > :16:58.having him show you the film 's? Does it give you access to things
:16:59. > :17:05.you would not see? I are not used to it, it is a first for me, I enjoyed
:17:06. > :17:12.it. We can't get out to see it. That is quite true. We are housebound, in
:17:13. > :17:17.a way. The only way I can go out is in a wheelchair, if somebody can
:17:18. > :17:23.push me. What is it like to have him come in and show you the films? He
:17:24. > :17:29.brings new life. It is nice here, of course, but he brings the nature and
:17:30. > :17:31.what is going on in the world all the time that we don't really think
:17:32. > :17:50.about. Thank you. I had a good day, Simon is with us.
:17:51. > :17:55.It was a wonderful day, thank you. We have fans of all ages, from the
:17:56. > :18:01.older to the young. This is a young fan. This is in either.
:18:02. > :18:12.Packham! I don't know what to say, but I
:18:13. > :18:14.might strip off and put my binoculars on back to front and do
:18:15. > :18:23.my own version! Please don't! A photo of George, he
:18:24. > :18:25.is seven. He has been rearing five painted ladies butterflies for doing
:18:26. > :18:30.something great for nature. Superb. George. Will you come and
:18:31. > :18:44.join us? You are a keen bird, you have been
:18:45. > :18:51.to spurn point. Straight after my exams, I headed up there. I had a
:18:52. > :18:57.great week, one of the highlights, I saw loads of great birds, a Rose
:18:58. > :19:04.Stinchcombe and one of the highlights was this. That is a bird.
:19:05. > :19:10.Brilliant to be so close and see the colours and the patterns. Very
:19:11. > :19:19.envious. You have got a passion for swifts? Yes, there are HQ in my
:19:20. > :19:25.neighbourhood. Last year, after my exams, I went up and spent the week,
:19:26. > :19:34.I was counting the swifts and helping with that. I fell in love
:19:35. > :19:39.with them, I thought they were fantastic, hoping to go back in a
:19:40. > :19:43.few weeks again. They are marvellous. You have also done
:19:44. > :19:52.birding closer to home, and introducing others? Yes, in my area,
:19:53. > :19:56.I am eager to attract anybody to look up, see what is going on,
:19:57. > :20:05.notice and appreciate the nature around us. I did this in Lichfield.
:20:06. > :20:11.I ( Gwent Balkans, one of my favourite birds, amazing. I get them
:20:12. > :20:18.coming over my patch. I have been to see urban projects in Derby and not
:20:19. > :20:23.a game, down the road. I heard there was one bird at the cathedral in
:20:24. > :20:29.Lichfield, so I headed down. This is the project needed.
:20:30. > :20:34.I am here at Lichfield Cathedral, I heard a rumour there was a bird
:20:35. > :20:40.here, I headed down, I walked around the corner, and that it was, a
:20:41. > :20:44.peregrine Vulcan. If you people know, but a lot of people don't. It
:20:45. > :20:50.is so loud, I don't know how people can walk past and not realise. I
:20:51. > :20:55.want to make other people aware, so I decided to organise a watch
:20:56. > :20:59.morning, I got something in the local paper, I wrote a blog,
:21:00. > :21:07.everybody I know, come along, learn about these birds. People lined up
:21:08. > :21:13.all the way down the road. We had a people turned up altogether. That
:21:14. > :21:18.was brilliant. After the success of that, so many people came along, so
:21:19. > :21:22.much interest, a lot of people said, I will come back. That is what it is
:21:23. > :21:31.about, more people being aware. You can hear them again now.
:21:32. > :21:37.Brilliant. It is not just people in the community, you are doing stuff
:21:38. > :21:42.with younger people as well. Does my age and younger, I go into local
:21:43. > :21:49.primary schools, there are HQ, I go in and talk to the children about
:21:50. > :21:53.wildlife, things I have recorded on my cameras, sound, photographs, tell
:21:54. > :21:58.them all about it, how they can go and do simple things. From
:21:59. > :22:05.accessible stuff, things in the garden... These are the foxes are.
:22:06. > :22:09.This is on my school field. I did a big display to show the other
:22:10. > :22:17.students. This is one of my badger clips. I have got some superb
:22:18. > :22:22.footage, using my camera. It is brilliant. I love to take things
:22:23. > :22:26.like that into schools, they are interesting, I can tell the students
:22:27. > :22:31.what is going on. They can see it, it is exciting. Another way you
:22:32. > :22:37.engage is through social media. That is how I met you. Focus on nature is
:22:38. > :22:45.a great way. Social media is such a great asset. At school I had no
:22:46. > :22:47.friends interested in nature, it was isolating, because you want to shake
:22:48. > :22:57.your passion and tell everybody about it. But I could not do that
:22:58. > :23:01.with friends. But with social media, other young people out there that
:23:02. > :23:08.you can talk to about it. You mentioned a focus on nature... To
:23:09. > :23:14.illustrate this, they have just retweeted, they say the young
:23:15. > :23:18.birders' blog is there now, it is a great way of communicating.
:23:19. > :23:24.Benjamin, you take young people into the countryside as well. When I
:23:25. > :23:30.lived in London, kids who have had problems, we would take them to
:23:31. > :23:33.Wales, ran the Brecon Beacons, and some of these kids were hard and
:23:34. > :23:36.tough, nothing could frighten them, but you take them to the countryside
:23:37. > :23:42.and they have never experienced darkness. They only know cats and
:23:43. > :23:47.dogs, so when they hear something strange, they get really frightened.
:23:48. > :23:54.I thought it was a shame. I did it for a while. On a much smaller scale
:23:55. > :24:00.I invite city kids to see where I live. There are also some people who
:24:01. > :24:05.live in the countryside that don't experience the city. In
:24:06. > :24:09.Lincolnshire, the sky is really big. You have got to be careful about
:24:10. > :24:16.what you say about the people that! I take these heads to London, they
:24:17. > :24:19.say, where has the sky gone? You have to look up to see the sky. You
:24:20. > :24:25.have to appreciate the whole country.
:24:26. > :24:31.Georgia, it is time for your challenge, what did you come up
:24:32. > :24:44.with? This is brilliant! What have we got here? What can I say? I am
:24:45. > :24:51.thinking motifs. I am liking the pattern of the swifts in the air. It
:24:52. > :25:00.will score very highly for me. It is right up here, second place.
:25:01. > :25:06.I don't know if I am thinking T-shirt or wallpaper, but it is one
:25:07. > :25:14.of the two. A comparison to Matisse!
:25:15. > :25:21.It is very good. I have had a tweet about bees. We have got the great
:25:22. > :25:25.British beat counter going on, which is hugely important, run by Friends
:25:26. > :25:30.of the Earth. You can download an app and report the bees that you
:25:31. > :25:32.see, which is vital to conservation. It has proved popular, 80,000
:25:33. > :25:37.people? Yes, but they want more, they want
:25:38. > :25:42.over 100,000, which was the record last year.
:25:43. > :25:46.It is not just honeybees, it is also about wild bees, bumblebees and the
:25:47. > :25:53.solitary species, because they are important pollinators, a part of the
:25:54. > :25:57.ecosystem. We want to know more about them.
:25:58. > :26:03.Download the app, it is super easy. Let's get to the quiz. Sophie set is
:26:04. > :26:09.this question, what did you think these feathers belong to? We have
:26:10. > :26:13.had a guesses. Is it a miss of fresh? Chris driver, is it a ring
:26:14. > :26:19.result? If I had one, I would be very happy.
:26:20. > :26:27.They would be hard to get hold of. Any ideas? Blackbird over here.
:26:28. > :26:35.Anything else? Quiet as a mouse now! Let's find out.
:26:36. > :26:48.These wing feathers from a male Blackbird.
:26:49. > :26:54.Did somebody have their hand up? A male blackbird, there we go. Thank
:26:55. > :27:00.you for getting in touch. Let's have a look at this picture, which is of
:27:01. > :27:07.a jellyfish. That is the size of a space hopper.
:27:08. > :27:10.Any ideas? It could be a lion 's mane jellyfish, we get those on the
:27:11. > :27:17.West Coast, they grow to enormous sizes. I have seen them about space
:27:18. > :27:23.hopper size. It could be that. It is hard without seeing the underpass.
:27:24. > :27:27.It is hard to identify jellyfish on the beach, they don't want to be
:27:28. > :27:34.there. They want to be out at sea. It for animals.
:27:35. > :27:39.They are huge. Breaking news, just before we came on, we have a new
:27:40. > :27:47.camera, it has just been rigged, and something interesting happened. If
:27:48. > :27:51.you can make it out, there was a visitor on the new camera.
:27:52. > :27:57.This is an animal that should not be in a hole in the tree, unless it was
:27:58. > :28:02.up to no good whatsoever. One can imagine it is up to absolutely no
:28:03. > :28:04.good. To watch our programme in an hour and a half to see what is going
:28:05. > :28:08.on. If you want to know more now, the
:28:09. > :28:14.story is still unravelling, go to our Facebook page. And to the
:28:15. > :28:19.website. Head there now. We have a choice of four cameras,
:28:20. > :28:27.sparrowhawks, all sorts of things for you to enjoy. But it?
:28:28. > :28:28.Yes. It has been fantastic, I must thank our guests, Georgia and
:28:29. > :28:42.Benjamin. We have to get involved in nature
:28:43. > :28:45.with young children, let them fall over into puddles, push them into
:28:46. > :28:51.the brambles. They have got to connect with nature. I will head
:28:52. > :28:57.here this evening, down to the scrape, plenty of action.