:00:22. > :00:25.Welcome back to the wonderful world of Springwatch Unsprung,
:00:26. > :00:29.coming to you live from RSPB Minsmere in Suffolk,
:00:30. > :00:36.along with our feisty audience of wildlife loving locals!
:00:37. > :00:45.When we get here to Minsmere, we bugged this place with lots of
:00:46. > :00:48.remote cameras. We have got no less than 29 cameras out on the reserve
:00:49. > :01:18.at the moment, and this is what they are looking at.
:01:19. > :01:28.That's the wildlife. We have also got a fine array of the human
:01:29. > :01:31.species in here this evening! We'll also be meeting some
:01:32. > :01:34.very special guests. Joining us tonight is a renowned
:01:35. > :01:37.music producer, and founder of not one but two of the most revered
:01:38. > :01:45.bands of the 1980s, who still tours regularly to sell-out shows,
:01:46. > :01:50.but whose real passion is creating immersive soundscapes
:01:51. > :01:53.reflecting the natural world. It's the musical genius
:01:54. > :01:56.that is Martyn Ware! Also here to tell us
:01:57. > :02:07.about some of the world's weirdest animal behaviours is a pigeon-loving
:02:08. > :02:20.actress, writer, broadcaster Who produces a weekly podcast. She
:02:21. > :02:22.will be telling us why sharks like heavy metal, and why pigeons make
:02:23. > :02:31.good art critics. From the world of science,
:02:32. > :02:49.it's Lliana Bird! I am emotionally drained after last
:02:50. > :02:55.night on the live cameras. And it has been the same today. There is
:02:56. > :03:00.more to come tonight. If you did not catch Springwatch last night, here's
:03:01. > :03:06.a quick reminder of what was going on. It was predation everywhere.
:03:07. > :03:10.This was the white throats' nest, and they all scattered out because
:03:11. > :03:14.of female adder has appeared. The nest is only about one metre high in
:03:15. > :03:18.the brambles. The young survived this onslaught. You could hear the
:03:19. > :03:23.alarm call of the adult, which was to get them to burst out of the nest
:03:24. > :03:29.and get away from the predator. And they managed to do it. We also had a
:03:30. > :03:31.stoat on the great tips, and on the woodpecker as well. And there is a
:03:32. > :03:37.lot more action coming up at eight o'clock tonight. Social media went
:03:38. > :03:43.absolutely crazy. This one said - nature is brutal! Another one came
:03:44. > :03:48.straight back and said - nature is brilliant! And this one went
:03:49. > :03:55.straight in and said - blimey, Game Of Thrones has nothing on the mayhem
:03:56. > :03:59.which is tonight's Springwatch! But we can't promise you dragons,
:04:00. > :04:05.unfortunately. That is the one thing we are short of. And of course, this
:04:06. > :04:09.is the natural world sober up predation is part of it. And our job
:04:10. > :04:15.is to report on what we see and explain to you, relatively
:04:16. > :04:18.dispassionately, why it occurs. It is all about the sustenance of life,
:04:19. > :04:23.and sometimes that sustenance hums to the death of other things. It is
:04:24. > :04:30.just the way it is. And predation has been going on right across the
:04:31. > :04:33.country. This is a weasel with a lizard, from Graham Parry. And we
:04:34. > :04:39.were sent this grass snake, eating a great crested newt. And finally, I
:04:40. > :04:45.like this one, a cormorant trying to eat a fish! I think it will manage
:04:46. > :04:52.it because they can eat enormous things. You think it will never go
:04:53. > :04:58.down marble it does eventually get that fish down. Don't forget to
:04:59. > :05:03.watch our live cameras, it is so easy to do. When you get to the
:05:04. > :05:10.website at bbc.co.uk/springwatch, it looks like this... And when you
:05:11. > :05:16.scroll down... There is a lovely blog, and if you hit live coverage,
:05:17. > :05:37.you can see the four web streams that we have. It is fantastic.
:05:38. > :05:42.Now, this month is 30 Days Wild. I went out to see some bats last
:05:43. > :05:48.night. What have you been doing? I did some wild things in the shower!
:05:49. > :05:55.Singing! Have a look at this one. This is from someone who has been
:05:56. > :05:59.counting with her daughter. And this is a picture of a caterpillar in
:06:00. > :06:03.someone's garden. And this one has been wearing a wild shirt at work.
:06:04. > :06:12.It is botanically accurate as well so that it gets extra points! Bad
:06:13. > :06:17.taste AND botanically accurate! I feel out done by that shirt! It is
:06:18. > :06:27.time for tonight's quiz, which is set by Sophie, so here she is. I am
:06:28. > :06:32.Sophie, and this is my quiz for you. This further is of a bird which is
:06:33. > :06:40.mostly white, black and chestnut. Whose feather is this? And here is
:06:41. > :06:43.the feather. There was a bit of a clue in the opening montage. Get in
:06:44. > :06:54.touch now, using the hashtag #springwatch. That is quite of an
:06:55. > :07:04.'80s bird, I would have to say. Which brings us neatly to Martyn!
:07:05. > :07:07.Thank you very much for coming in! I'm not sure about the nostalgia,
:07:08. > :07:12.but some say the '80sAPPL come those were the days. They were, it was the
:07:13. > :07:17.last golden age of great music, I think. And we have got a couple of
:07:18. > :07:22.shots of you from those days. The Human League, early days, Being
:07:23. > :07:29.Boiled, I remember the singles. I have still got them. And then you
:07:30. > :07:36.went on to Heaven 17. More chart success with Heaven 17. A bit like
:07:37. > :07:41.Robert De Niro there. It must have been good fun? Oh, it was amazing.
:07:42. > :07:46.It was party time nonstop, really. I think the music was really good, the
:07:47. > :07:50.credible end of it all. It is not all fancy haircuts and stuff. But we
:07:51. > :07:54.did dress nicely and I think people like that. You're still touring?
:07:55. > :07:58.Yes, later this year, all over the country. We're still playing all the
:07:59. > :08:08.great hits. Temptation, everybody knows that. Well, a few of you do!
:08:09. > :08:14.None of you are old enough! You did some stuff... Yes, some of the young
:08:15. > :08:20.artists really liked the stuff we did, and a lot of the electro DJs
:08:21. > :08:23.really like our stuff. Well, you were known as the "crown prince of
:08:24. > :08:28.the British synthesiser sound of the 1980s". My goodness, where did you
:08:29. > :08:31.read that one?! It was an amazing time. We had been through punk, and
:08:32. > :08:36.with the development of synthesisers, you were the guys,
:08:37. > :08:45.along with a few others, like OMD and others, who developed it? Yes,
:08:46. > :08:49.we developed it from Kraftwerk and other places. But you still like
:08:50. > :08:57.your wildlife, you get out and about? Yes, I do. We see plenty of
:08:58. > :09:01.foxes in Primrose Hill. And lots of birds, jays, blue kits, etc. And you
:09:02. > :09:07.have got the park? The park is fantastic. The zoo is nearby, so I
:09:08. > :09:11.wake up at four o'clock in the morning listening to lemurs calling,
:09:12. > :09:17.of all things! And Robins. We get all of that stuff, yes. How did you
:09:18. > :09:21.go from pop music into these soundscapes? You are involved with
:09:22. > :09:28.the National Trust, and the Sounds Of Our Shores? That's right. I have
:09:29. > :09:33.got a system which does realistic natural sound. And they approached
:09:34. > :09:35.us. They said, would you be interested in recording people's
:09:36. > :09:42.memories of the sea? And together with their recordings of the
:09:43. > :09:46.wildlife from the sea come from the seaside. And I merged it all
:09:47. > :09:49.together into a 3D soundscape which was played at Somerset house. Also
:09:50. > :09:54.it is free to download on the website. So the purpose is to
:09:55. > :09:58.generate an acoustic feeling of a place using natural sounds?
:09:59. > :10:02.Precisely. It is like magic realism for sound, really. Well, we have put
:10:03. > :10:10.some pictures to part of your soundscape. Let's have a look and
:10:11. > :10:16.listen. Favourite sounds of our shores. I
:10:17. > :10:17.would have to go back to our childhood, and it would be the sound
:10:18. > :10:51.of skylarks in the air. Not just natural sounds, there was a
:10:52. > :10:54.bit of shanty in there as well? Yes, of these were all contributed by
:10:55. > :11:00.members of the public, via their smartphones. Which actually is a bit
:11:01. > :11:04.of a lesson. Everybody probably has a smartphone, and you can go and
:11:05. > :11:08.record your natural environment and upload it to various things on the
:11:09. > :11:11.internet so that other people can hear it. And actually some of the
:11:12. > :11:18.music in that was written by my son Gabriel as well. In your honour,
:11:19. > :11:25.Martyn, we have put together a bit of a gallery from our Twitter
:11:26. > :11:28.account of 80s-looking birds! This is my favourite, it is a great
:11:29. > :11:35.crested grebe. Do you like the Herrera? Flock of seagulls, it is
:11:36. > :11:42.quite good, really! And this one, the parakeet, for the colouring,
:11:43. > :11:46.obviously. What are you thinking? Camden, where I live, we see this
:11:47. > :11:54.stuff all the time! And this one as well, check out the Herrera on that!
:11:55. > :12:04.Oh, my goodness! What is that?! I don't know, it is a bit of Duran on
:12:05. > :12:18.a bad day. And have a look at this '80s icon... Very questionable phone
:12:19. > :12:23.that you have got there! Just the phone, that's right. That's semi
:12:24. > :12:30.adult plumage! Every one of our guests here is set a challenge, and
:12:31. > :12:33.we call it Drawn To Be Wild. We give them art materials and just ten
:12:34. > :12:39.minutes to reproduce something about Minsmere. You are accomplished at
:12:40. > :12:43.soundscapes, we know that. And a terrible artist! I am appealing to
:12:44. > :12:52.you! OK, well, let's see what you have done. Here it is. What it is,
:12:53. > :12:56.in case you can't tell... Oh, I feel a justification coming on! I am
:12:57. > :13:01.excited by the whole feeding thing, so this is just a giant big, really,
:13:02. > :13:07.with an abstract nest and a bit of a bird in the background. It has got
:13:08. > :13:13.energy, I think. It has got energy, I am drawn to it, I almost want to
:13:14. > :13:16.put a worm into it. What is that at the bottom? It had a bit of a
:13:17. > :13:18.scrawny neck so I put a bit of colour into it. Ten minutes is not
:13:19. > :13:33.long, you know?! What do we think? You see, I am always drawn to the
:13:34. > :13:38.unusual and the abstract, Martyn. I like the fact that you have got the
:13:39. > :13:43.central point of colour, and the bird's big, I am drawn to it. As I
:13:44. > :13:47.say, I do want to put a worm into it, so I'm going to score this one
:13:48. > :13:50.really highly, actually. I'm going to demote this one and put you into
:13:51. > :14:04.joint second. So, you have gone above Will Young
:14:05. > :14:09.and Jason as well. Pretty good. What do you think? I like it, and we are
:14:10. > :14:12.getting a lot of cheers over here as well. Springwatch presenter Michaela
:14:13. > :14:18.Strachan is passionate about wildlife rehabilitation. She went to
:14:19. > :14:24.one of the biggest rescue centres in the country to see what volunteers
:14:25. > :14:32.do there. We went along with her. It is day two of my volunteering for
:14:33. > :14:38.Stately Grange RSPCA. I learnt so much on the first day. I have done
:14:39. > :14:41.rehabilitation and volunteering work before, but it makes you realise
:14:42. > :14:45.that the more you do, the more useful you can be. I am ready to get
:14:46. > :14:55.my hands dirty, and hopefully I can be really useful. Here, I have got a
:14:56. > :15:01.gull for you. It has been moving in that box. I will get it out and just
:15:02. > :15:06.see if it can walk. I am a bit worried about his spine. You can see
:15:07. > :15:12.the way he was desperately trying to use his wings to move. We're going
:15:13. > :15:13.to have to do an X-ray. All you need to do is hold his head lice and
:15:14. > :15:26.still. How do you know when he has done
:15:27. > :15:33.down. He will feel heavy, #234r507y. That looks good from that angle. The
:15:34. > :15:38.legs look good. The good news is no obvious spinal fracture. -- that
:15:39. > :15:43.looks good. Time to get on with my other duties.
:15:44. > :15:51.Keeps you busy but all for a good cause. Make sure to wipe down. I
:15:52. > :15:55.have sneaked out for a cup of tea. I tell you, it is so busy in there. If
:15:56. > :16:00.you are hanging around, they will find a job for you. I thought I'd
:16:01. > :16:07.get myself a cup of tea and have five minutes off. It's tiring.
:16:08. > :16:13.Dressing up for the next task in hand. Time to meet my next customer.
:16:14. > :16:18.What is next? We'll catch up with a group of fox cubs. We are going to
:16:19. > :16:23.go to one of the outdoor enclosures to give them more space. Oh my gosh.
:16:24. > :16:28.How many? There should be five here. They are gorgeous animals. Wow, they
:16:29. > :16:33.really do smell, don't they? Yes. What will happen to the foxes now?
:16:34. > :16:38.We will put them into the outdoor enclosures. So this is where the
:16:39. > :16:45.foxes will stay for the next six months. We will make a bit of a den
:16:46. > :16:50.here for them. Like that? Yes. Some places for them to hide. I quite
:16:51. > :16:56.like the look of that den ie. ' Liking it. It needs more colour if
:16:57. > :17:02.you ask me. Looking lovely. -- I'm liking it. I think we are just about
:17:03. > :17:06.sorted. I think we are. I have had another great day's volunteering. It
:17:07. > :17:09.has been fun getting to meet and help these wonderful wild animals
:17:10. > :17:15.and it is incredibly rewarding to know you can really make a
:17:16. > :17:24.difference. APPLAUSE
:17:25. > :17:32.? Complaining about the smell. I think they smell nice. Really? I
:17:33. > :17:39.used to have them in the house. I got used to t my mum didn't.
:17:40. > :17:42.And of course, this spring and summer sees the launch
:17:43. > :17:45.of the BBC Do Something Great season - if you want get involved,
:17:46. > :17:48.And get in touch to tell us about your own
:17:49. > :17:59.Lots getting in touch already. This is from David Richards. He has been
:18:00. > :18:04.be planting and he has a pond. Hoping wildlife will come. Which it
:18:05. > :18:10.will. Any outdoor water is a goot thing to do. Let's move offer to our
:18:11. > :18:14.next guest. Lliana, come over and join us on the sofa.
:18:15. > :18:18.APPLAUSE You have always been into wildlife.
:18:19. > :18:23.And so has the rest of your family. Yes, I was interested when I was a
:18:24. > :18:26.kid and my family shared in my obsession with wildlife. Even though
:18:27. > :18:31.living in London, my mum used it take me and my sister to Portobello
:18:32. > :18:39.and we used to visit Smarty the parrot. We have a picture. Me in the
:18:40. > :18:43.'80s. We used to go to Devon on the weekends. My sister she was
:18:44. > :18:48.obsessed. She wented on to do conservation work in Africa. I got
:18:49. > :18:53.to visit her. I remember one time I came home and she was six and told
:18:54. > :18:58.me not to go into her bedroom. I thought she hated me. I snuck in and
:18:59. > :19:01.found out she was keeping an injured baby blackbird under the bed. We
:19:02. > :19:05.started looking after it together. It brought us closer. You and your
:19:06. > :19:10.sister? What about the blackbird? He was all right. Retallick leased him.
:19:11. > :19:14.Not the best place to keep one, under the bed. You have to start
:19:15. > :19:18.somewhere. I did equally unspeakal things to an matches you are now
:19:19. > :19:23.keen on science and trying to get a new audience. I read you want to
:19:24. > :19:27.make it as cool as rock 'n' roll. Science gets a bad wrap and some
:19:28. > :19:32.people can say it is boring. I disagree, it is boring and funny. I
:19:33. > :19:37.do a music show on Radio X and decided to bring in the science and
:19:38. > :19:42.nature elements and do a segment with Dr Jack Lewis called geek chic
:19:43. > :19:46.with science. We turned it into a podcast and into a book. We are in a
:19:47. > :19:52.mission. If it is as cool as rock 'n' roll. We'll have to put up with
:19:53. > :19:58.groupies and hedonism. It must have been terrible, Martyn. I don't know
:19:59. > :20:06.how I dealt with it. You have put this book together. The Mice Who
:20:07. > :20:12.Sing For Sex. I have reading some. Sharks who enjoy heavy metal. We
:20:13. > :20:19.discovered by accident by a cage driver. They put cages there and
:20:20. > :20:23.they would come up. He put in the speakers. Why would you be playing
:20:24. > :20:29.it? He put it in the water and the first thing on the iPod was ACDC. He
:20:30. > :20:31.discovered the sharks were coming up 209 cage and rubbing their faces up
:20:32. > :20:39.off it. Did he 209 cage and rubbing their faces up
:20:40. > :20:45.off it. Did he try -- to the cage. Did he try Heaven 17? And def metal.
:20:46. > :20:52.It is to do with the sound. It mimics the sound of dying fish. What
:20:53. > :20:56.about the mice who sing for sex. We know that mice and rats will sing,
:20:57. > :21:03.don't we? They have known for 50 years now that male mice will sing
:21:04. > :21:08.for sex and when they smell female's pee, they do ultrasonic love
:21:09. > :21:13.squeaks. We cannot hear it. Great name for a band. Ultrasonic love
:21:14. > :21:17.squeaks. We cannot hear it. It is too high pitched for us. Recently
:21:18. > :21:21.they discovered the female mice sing back. It is a duet going on. They
:21:22. > :21:25.take each other around and match songs to each other. It is a
:21:26. > :21:29.boughtively thing. The most fascinating thing I read, I have a
:21:30. > :21:34.keen interest in birds. Pigeons becoming art critics. Yes, I think
:21:35. > :21:37.they get a bad wrap, pigeons, the underdogs of the dog world and
:21:38. > :21:42.people think they cause problems in Trafalgar Square. Actually they are
:21:43. > :21:48.super smart. They have a visual system, complex. It was discovered
:21:49. > :21:51.by a were fesor that they can tell the difference between Monet and
:21:52. > :21:55.Picasso and van goe and other artists. They can do it as well as
:21:56. > :21:58.humans and they can tell the difference between good and bad art.
:21:59. > :22:04.If they are trained well with hemp seed - we have to give them a reward
:22:05. > :22:07.- he they can tell the difference between kids' art that we rate as
:22:08. > :22:11.good or bad. Incredible. It didn't matter if they were upside down, the
:22:12. > :22:16.paintings. Only the Picasso. They were able to look at the
:22:17. > :22:20.construction of that. Explain why some people hang their paintings
:22:21. > :22:25.upside down. I have seen a Rothco upside down in someone's house I
:22:26. > :22:29.would like to see pigeons judging next year's Turner Prize. OK, you
:22:30. > :22:34.think animals don't like you, despite the fact rather like them. I
:22:35. > :22:38.know, it is an unrequited love. I have an affinity for them but they
:22:39. > :22:43.don't seem to share that for me. I think it is because I'm needy. I'm
:22:44. > :22:48.pleading with them to love me, they can sense that. I remember I was
:22:49. > :22:53.travelling around and this monkey in a temple came up to me and I was
:22:54. > :22:58.smug because it came up and sat on my shoulder. I thought - the monkey
:22:59. > :23:01.loves me. It smacked me in the face and stole my camera and ran off. It
:23:02. > :23:07.might have been something else. Maybe a signal you were sending out
:23:08. > :23:11.to the monkey. I won't debt into the detail of that -- get into the
:23:12. > :23:15.detail. Let's have a look, you have been out on the reserve with Martyn
:23:16. > :23:21.this afternoon, enjoying the sunshine. Thank you. Oh, that's just
:23:22. > :23:25.amazing. I have come all the way from London and I've just spotted a
:23:26. > :23:33.pigeon. I think it has followed me up. Oh, look, the ducklings. They
:23:34. > :23:43.make such a racket, don't they? Showing off now. Er That's amazing.
:23:44. > :23:46.We would like to see unicorns next. Unicorns and rainbows next. An
:23:47. > :23:53.amazing place up here. It is beautiful. I'm going to come back.
:23:54. > :23:57.Everything we said we wanted to see magically appeared, except for
:23:58. > :24:02.unicorns. And woodpeckers. You must stick around. Time to have a look at
:24:03. > :24:05.your challenge now. Maybe we need a pigeon to judge it. Any pigeons in
:24:06. > :24:09.the audience? OK, let's have a look. Here we are.
:24:10. > :24:19.Oh my goodness me. This is pretty good. Look at this. I think it is
:24:20. > :24:24.good. If in doubt, collage. That looks pretty good. Very good. I
:24:25. > :24:31.have to say, in pigeon mode, looking at, that I don't recognise it as a
:24:32. > :24:35.Monet or Picasso but I do recognise it as top of the board.
:24:36. > :24:44.APPLAUSE I mean, look at that.
:24:45. > :24:48.There is a fair degree of on tholing onical accuracy, and mixed media and
:24:49. > :24:53.a message - feed me. Scoring multiple points and I'm not even a
:24:54. > :24:57.pigeon. She said at the top of the show she was pretty competitive.
:24:58. > :25:01.Good. In your honour I have had a look through all our pictures in
:25:02. > :25:03.social media to find some weird and wonderful an ma.s you didn't
:25:04. > :25:08.disappoint. Thank you so much. Have a look at this. These are from an
:25:09. > :25:13.interesting perfective. A double-headed badger, as it were.
:25:14. > :25:20.Oh, yes. A clever picture. #2w0 Badgers
:25:21. > :25:25.squeezed together on a patio. I thought - what else can I find and I
:25:26. > :25:30.found a double-headed gull. What do you think of that -- Two Badgers.
:25:31. > :25:39.Conadvicing, until you count the legs. Finally, here we go, a
:25:40. > :25:43.four-headed stoat. It is a really nice photograph. The light is on the
:25:44. > :25:48.head there. All the others newsling around. All the background. Shame
:25:49. > :25:52.about the leaf in the foreground. It is good. I would be happy. That's
:25:53. > :25:59.our Minsmere stoat. That was taken here. Is it? It is our stoat. Next
:26:00. > :26:03.to our cameraman. Time to resolve the quiz. At the top of the show we
:26:04. > :26:08.asked you what you thought this feather belonged to. A few people
:26:09. > :26:15.got in touch. A lot of people. A a lot thought it was an eyeder duck.
:26:16. > :26:22.Jack, and some people thought it was a muskby duck. Any idea in the
:26:23. > :26:28.audience? Shelduck. Shelduck the audience say. Let's find out. Here
:26:29. > :26:37.is Sophie. This is the feather of a shelduck.
:26:38. > :26:43.Very '80s. I like the colouring of a shelduck.
:26:44. > :26:48.They are bold, aren't they? They are goo.d many people got it right.
:26:49. > :26:55.Kathy, Sam Washington, Wendy, Paul high #2350e8d. -- Paul Highfield.
:26:56. > :27:00.Amy Davis. Thank you for sending those in. Yesterday I mentioned at
:27:01. > :27:04.the start of the show it was epic with predation. I thought I would
:27:05. > :27:09.smother new cuteness. I hope it is OK. And I know how you like T have a
:27:10. > :27:15.look at this first picture here. Awww.
:27:16. > :27:16.Stop T Very cute. A water vole. I think this next picture is even
:27:17. > :27:31.cuter. Looking supercute. Bulging eyes.
:27:32. > :27:35.That puts me off the water vole. They have their eyes on the top of
:27:36. > :27:42.their skull. They are predated by all sorts of things. I presume it is
:27:43. > :27:46.an adaptation to that but exquis etly beautiful. I have done cute and
:27:47. > :27:49.predation. Now gross. So if you are eating your tea get ready. This was
:27:50. > :28:01.filmed earlier. It is our sparrowhawk.
:28:02. > :28:08.It is Olympian. It really is. I hope that's
:28:09. > :28:14.representing us in Rio. Absolutely. I will sneak a quick question in. I
:28:15. > :28:18.never get to do them. Crawford asks - why are birds legs and mouths
:28:19. > :28:23.often yellow. Just like the picture S there an advantage? An interesting
:28:24. > :28:27.question -- is there an advantage? I don't think I can answer it. It
:28:28. > :28:32.might be pigment in terms of which are available. We don't see many
:28:33. > :28:35.blue, most of the substances that form blue is toxic but yellow is
:28:36. > :28:40.frequent in the legs of birds of prey. There must be an adaptive
:28:41. > :28:44.advantage. I think I will have to get back to you on that. If anyone
:28:45. > :28:48.in the audience knows or at home, tell us. We are running out of time.
:28:49. > :28:51.Thank you to my guests for coming. In a round of applause for them. I
:28:52. > :28:55.will leave you with this, the bluetits, only two left in the nest.
:28:56. > :29:01.What happened to the rest? Find out at 8.00pm.