Episode 8

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:00:15. > :00:26.APPLAUSE Hello and welcome to Unsprung on

:00:27. > :00:29.this fine sunny evening in the Sherborne Park Estate in

:00:30. > :00:33.Gloucestershire, home of the National Trust. We have been

:00:34. > :00:38.enjoying our time will stop you know the premise of this programme, it is

:00:39. > :00:43.very much about you. We like your contributions in terms of questions,

:00:44. > :00:47.photographs and queries. We try and sneak in wildlife and science. It's

:00:48. > :00:51.basically about celebrating nature, and very often we invite guests to

:00:52. > :00:57.help us do that. I'm pleased to say tonight we've got some super guests.

:00:58. > :01:04.First of all, let's hear it. Nicole. -- let's hear it for Stephanie Cole.

:01:05. > :01:13.Very fond wildlife garden and a lady with a passion for nature. Alongside

:01:14. > :01:19.here, MG Leonard. Author of the soon to be Beetle Boy trilogy. A lady

:01:20. > :01:24.with a passion and we will be learning about all things beetles

:01:25. > :01:31.from MG. But now let me step aside into the shadows... Thank you very

:01:32. > :01:35.much indeed, amazing. That is the warmest reception yet. Not the

:01:36. > :01:39.temperature outside, but the crowd inside. Great crowd, beautiful

:01:40. > :01:43.weather. And because of that I've put together some beautiful pictures

:01:44. > :01:48.for you because I like your critical eye to take a look. I've been

:01:49. > :01:52.researching hard. This first one is fantastic, it is from Susan Brewer.

:01:53. > :02:00.She says that she noticed a camouflaged horror fry in her

:02:01. > :02:04.garden. My macro -- hover fly. I like the matching body of the insect

:02:05. > :02:08.and the pansy. But I'm perturbed by the Green and black at the corners.

:02:09. > :02:13.I would have cropped in a little bit, but fabulous colours. I'm going

:02:14. > :02:17.to try and bet about - have a look at this one. This is from Austin

:02:18. > :02:23.Thomas. He says he still not 100% happy. I like this. It is the

:02:24. > :02:26.principal ingredient which is imported, symmetry. I often think

:02:27. > :02:30.hell for me would be living in a world without symmetry listening to

:02:31. > :02:37.Coldplay! This is a good shot, it's lovely. The knife through this one

:02:38. > :02:40.in, why not, because you love a sparrow. -- then I just threw this

:02:41. > :02:47.one in. I've had the privilege of meeting

:02:48. > :02:51.that bird, it is Mad Max. Is that a winner? The little owl is a better

:02:52. > :02:55.photograph, but that is the best bird. Is stunning. Along with the

:02:56. > :02:59.fabulous pictures you also have the occasional one that doesn't go quite

:03:00. > :03:08.so well. Devoto fail! Have a look at this. What did you think that might

:03:09. > :03:12.be? -- vive photo fail. It's important to focus on the subject,

:03:13. > :03:16.especially if it's Robin. This one is fantastic, it's supposed to be an

:03:17. > :03:21.otter but it moved its head. Very often these pictures are popular

:03:22. > :03:24.when the animal is wet when they are shaking spray from themselves. There

:03:25. > :03:27.are good pictures of polar bears and brown bears shaking spray off with

:03:28. > :03:34.fish in their mouth and become quite popular. Unfortunately, no points

:03:35. > :03:40.for that one. This is my absolute favourite because is it a fail? This

:03:41. > :03:46.is by Kim McDonald and it is a bird poo that is a bird. In the shape of

:03:47. > :03:52.a bird! Hold on a moment, that has trounced all of the other. I know.

:03:53. > :04:00.And she has called a self-portrait. Brilliant. Let's move on. I'm giving

:04:01. > :04:03.that a seven. An eight! This is tonight's quiz. We would like you to

:04:04. > :04:07.get in touch and let us know whose feathers these. There is a bonus on

:04:08. > :04:10.this one as well because there was something special about those

:04:11. > :04:14.feathers. If you can tell me more, there is a bonus. So identify the

:04:15. > :04:20.species and a little bit more for bonus? Get in touch using the

:04:21. > :04:24.hashtag Springwatch. It's not an exotic species, it comes from

:04:25. > :04:30.Sherborne itself. Let's come over to our first guest. Stefanie, thank you

:04:31. > :04:34.for coming in. A beautiful evening here. You've been acting for a long

:04:35. > :04:45.time. I will take you a long way back, overseas. I'm in my 76th year.

:04:46. > :04:51.Where you are enjoying the wildlife of the time? Yes. Because we filmed

:04:52. > :04:56.on Singapore island itself. But we also comes in Malaysia on the east

:04:57. > :05:02.Coast for Tenko. The only town was right at the top in that time, so it

:05:03. > :05:07.was wild. There were people living there, and there were villagers, and

:05:08. > :05:12.there was a great Turtle Beach. We actually didn't see very much

:05:13. > :05:16.wildlife, oddly enough. Rather sadly! I suppose there were a huge

:05:17. > :05:22.number of us, do you know what I mean? Too busy working. We invaded

:05:23. > :05:27.an area when everybody else flew. There we were, making a lot of

:05:28. > :05:32.noise. Your interest in wildlife is long-standing. You grew up in the

:05:33. > :05:36.countryside. Yes, I did. First of all in North Devon. I had a great

:05:37. > :05:42.aunt who knew quite a bit. There you are. That I am. She taught me the

:05:43. > :05:46.names of flowers, birds and birdsong. It gave me a passion for

:05:47. > :05:51.the rest of my life. We moved to between Bristol and Bath, and the

:05:52. > :05:54.passion continued. There was a river at the bottom of the garden and I

:05:55. > :05:58.watched young badgers play when I was about nine. Let's look at this,

:05:59. > :06:03.and a delicate afternoon if ever there was one. It was a great place

:06:04. > :06:06.to be a child. Minnows, sticklebacks, you name it, there

:06:07. > :06:11.they were. Young kids these days don't often get those opportunities.

:06:12. > :06:14.When was the last time you went to a river and saw kids playing around

:06:15. > :06:19.like that? I can't remember. Now you are bringing the wildlife to you.

:06:20. > :06:24.You are still in Bass and you have a garden which is good for wildlife.

:06:25. > :06:28.It still is. It's not as good as it used to, because I've had to

:06:29. > :06:33.rationalise it. It's how much gardening I can do, DC. Therefore,

:06:34. > :06:37.I've rationalised it. Rather sadly I've discovered over the last few

:06:38. > :06:40.years, well, it's not a discovery, other people have realised it, but

:06:41. > :06:46.actually bird life is really, really diminishing. We used to have

:06:47. > :06:50.woodpeckers. I think I've heard one wants this year at the top of the

:06:51. > :06:55.garden. Happily, the rains have come back. They left for about three

:06:56. > :07:01.years but have come back this year. -- the wrens have come back. That

:07:02. > :07:05.buzzards because we have Woods on either side in the valleys. Of

:07:06. > :07:10.course you do see buzzards, but you used to see lots of pairs playing.

:07:11. > :07:16.We were talking on the Springwatch programme last night. Since 1970, we

:07:17. > :07:20.have lost 44 million birds from the countryside. That's appalling.

:07:21. > :07:27.Subspecies are declining. The song thrush, this is a species that in

:07:28. > :07:30.suburban areas doesn't do terribly well. One unusual thing about the

:07:31. > :07:35.birds is when they fledge, the younger one to the ground, rather

:07:36. > :07:38.than the bushes. They are susceptible to cats. This is the

:07:39. > :07:41.lesser spotted woodpecker, I can't remember the last time I saw one.

:07:42. > :07:46.You have to look at them specifically. The one benefit but

:07:47. > :07:50.does -- the one feature does benefit in gardens is the great spotted

:07:51. > :07:57.woodpecker. Do you still get these? Yes. Do you put food on? Yes, I do.

:07:58. > :08:02.I'm very careful about what it is and where I put it. What is your

:08:03. > :08:07.favourite bird? My favourite bird is the owl. When I was a child, do you

:08:08. > :08:11.know that extraordinary sound, I think it is the tawny owl that makes

:08:12. > :08:14.it, which is rather like a rabbit being killed! When I was little I

:08:15. > :08:19.used to lie in bed and hear this screen. I used to call for my

:08:20. > :08:33.mother, "They're killing the rabbits again!" She would say, no, no, it is

:08:34. > :08:41.the owl. We can hear it. SCREACHING it is the barn owl that

:08:42. > :08:46.creates this noise. They create the range. What about

:08:47. > :08:49.when you were overseas, you mentioned in Malaysia. There were

:08:50. > :08:54.lots of people familiar with what can be called creepy crawlies,

:08:55. > :08:57.invertebrates, spiders, millipedes, scorpions. There were lots of

:08:58. > :09:02.things. I do remember asking before we went, I said, are there things

:09:03. > :09:09.that we should be aware of? I was aware that we were going to have to

:09:10. > :09:14.squat in the jungle to have a quick pee. He said, no, Malaysia is full

:09:15. > :09:23.of absolutely anything that could possibly hurt you. Not true! Read

:09:24. > :09:27.ants... You don't mind spiders? I love spiders. My house is a spider

:09:28. > :09:34.house. I will take down a cobweb until I know that it is over and

:09:35. > :09:40.with. What about this one? I think that is beautiful. These are some of

:09:41. > :09:46.our largest and most robust arachnids. They have a leg span of

:09:47. > :09:50.something like this. Beautiful. We have another one here. This is the

:09:51. > :09:58.garden spider. Look about, so beautiful and so clever. Exquisite.

:09:59. > :10:05.And they get rid of flies. What more can you ask for? A perfect creature.

:10:06. > :10:08.Here we have it. A lady that has travelled the world, doesn't mind

:10:09. > :10:10.spiders and is now sculpting her garden to attract wildlife. Thank

:10:11. > :10:16.you very much indeed. APPLAUSE

:10:17. > :10:21.Lindsey, not a spider fan? No, I really don't like them. But I'm so

:10:22. > :10:24.pleased that you do because it balances things out brilliantly. I

:10:25. > :10:28.think it's probably time to shift the focus. It is time for Unsprung

:10:29. > :10:31.Undressed. Our first cameras were put in four

:10:32. > :10:38.weeks ago, but it isn't just a case of setting them up and leaving them

:10:39. > :10:43.alone. Buffeted by wind, rain and the occasional accident, the

:10:44. > :10:48.equipment has a lot to deal with. Someone has to maintain it. Meet in

:10:49. > :10:53.the remote camera team. We are on our way to put a

:10:54. > :10:58.microphone on a blackbird. I'm on my way to clean more poo off

:10:59. > :11:03.the camera lens. Most nests are hard to reach, and

:11:04. > :11:12.blackbirds are no exception. We monitor the nests of the birds

:11:13. > :11:15.don't get upset. They seem happy. It is quite fiddly because we are

:11:16. > :11:20.right in the heart of a hawthorn bush, which is really spiky. Not the

:11:21. > :11:24.most comfortable place, but say for the birds.

:11:25. > :11:32.Our kestrels have found sanctuary in a church bell tower. It's a long

:11:33. > :11:40.way! They have glued it down with their

:11:41. > :11:49.poo. Disgusting! It is so tempting to ring the bell,

:11:50. > :11:52.isn't it? That is everything set. We will get back to the truck and see

:11:53. > :11:57.if it's all working. This signal is already there. 1.6

:11:58. > :12:02.kilometres of cable trail back to the main site. Once O'Neal catches

:12:03. > :12:07.up, he checks the microphone is working well.

:12:08. > :12:11.Turned the sound up. You can hear all the chicks, you can hear the

:12:12. > :12:15.adult landing on the nest. That is him hopping away. It picks up all

:12:16. > :12:20.that sound, that communication. It is very important. Not just

:12:21. > :12:23.pictures. The blackbirds are wired for sound,

:12:24. > :12:29.and the kestrels camera is back in action.

:12:30. > :12:35.Good, isn't it? But is it. The glamour, the relentless glamour!

:12:36. > :12:44.Well, you might not think so, but our VIPs may disagree.

:12:45. > :12:48.APPLAUSE Relentless glamour! We love the

:12:49. > :12:51.phrase. Remote camera team, absolutely brilliant. The kestrels

:12:52. > :12:56.have been the stars of Springwatch this year. Let's take a look at

:12:57. > :13:02.them. There they are. Mikhaylov has become very fond of the smallest

:13:03. > :13:07.kestrels, which is lagging behind. They know they are on! I love that.

:13:08. > :13:10.Roy Wallace has been on to say, could the cast will be more

:13:11. > :13:15.successful hunting in the wind due to graph is being blown about and

:13:16. > :13:19.revealing more prey? I think if there is a light breeze, it allows

:13:20. > :13:25.them to hover. Other than that, they have to expand an enormous amount of

:13:26. > :13:31.energy so they sit in Detry. Telegraph poles. If there was a

:13:32. > :13:35.light breeze, that allows them to scan more landscape. They also not

:13:36. > :13:45.just looking for bowls. They are looking for the vole wee. They are

:13:46. > :13:50.hovering down there looking for Galway, because they leave trails.

:13:51. > :13:55.From wee to poo, Mall has been on. She said the bird would be poo, it

:13:56. > :14:01.should have been called be self poo-trait! This is another question

:14:02. > :14:06.that has been sent into us. This one is from Jewels. She said she found

:14:07. > :14:12.this on a birch tree, what are they? Will they hurt the tree? These are

:14:13. > :14:16.like caterpillars, but they are the larvae of a sawfly. So flies are

:14:17. > :14:20.called sawfly is because the females sort of scissor into the leaf where

:14:21. > :14:24.they lay their eggs. These things will emerge. And sometimes they will

:14:25. > :14:29.emerge in sufficient numbers that they will devalue parts of the tree,

:14:30. > :14:33.or indeed a whole truth. But it is only a part-time effect. You can

:14:34. > :14:36.tell the difference between those in caterpillars because they have a

:14:37. > :14:40.different leg arrangement. And we think her tree will be OK? Yes, it

:14:41. > :14:44.will be fine. And leave them there because at the moment there are lots

:14:45. > :14:45.of birds foraging for these sorts of things and taking them to their

:14:46. > :14:58.nest. Let's move on to our second-guessed.

:14:59. > :15:03.MG Leonard. Let's get straight into the books that you've written.

:15:04. > :15:09.Beetle Boy was the first one. What made you come up with the idea of

:15:10. > :15:13.writing about beetles? I've always been scared of creepy crawlies, any

:15:14. > :15:20.invertebrate that I didn't know anything about would terrify me. I

:15:21. > :15:23.thought, when I was an adult, I thought it would be the case all my

:15:24. > :15:30.life. Then I discovered that I didn't even know that beetles had

:15:31. > :15:36.two pairs of wings. I assumed they crawled about on the ground. I

:15:37. > :15:41.realised my fear came from ignorance. I began to learn about

:15:42. > :15:49.beetles and I learned that whatever you see, if insect is coming to the

:15:50. > :15:53.story, it's usually ominous, evil, a bad portent. What about the ones

:15:54. > :15:59.that show how heroic they are, how they have got great skills? They are

:16:00. > :16:06.one of the most successful species on Earth. I thought that if I wrote

:16:07. > :16:10.something that if I had read it when I was eight, I wouldn't be so

:16:11. > :16:15.scared. You are successfully communicating to young people what

:16:16. > :16:20.you have learned as an adult. That beetles are cool. There is a

:16:21. > :16:28.glossary at the back so they can learn it and become a Coleoptera

:16:29. > :16:32.list of note. Children who read these books will know the Latin

:16:33. > :16:41.terms to describe the things they see in their garden. So, this one

:16:42. > :16:55.did well, then you went on to Beatle Queen. Now you have got the third

:16:56. > :17:03.one. It is set in the Anna 's -- at the Amazon and there is a massive

:17:04. > :17:08.beetle battle in it. It's a way of showing how my extreme fear has

:17:09. > :17:20.turned into extreme passion. I keep African beetles now. These are

:17:21. > :17:24.Australian stag beetles. Exquisite. They are so beautiful. They have

:17:25. > :17:31.these amazing iridescent exoskeletons. The male has larger

:17:32. > :17:35.jaws. They are so strong. People don't realise the strength beetles

:17:36. > :17:41.have in their exoskeleton. Even if I wanted him to get off, he's not

:17:42. > :17:46.having it. What about beetles as pets? Would you advocate it? You

:17:47. > :17:50.have to be very careful. I read the book nearly ten years ago and I

:17:51. > :17:55.spent six years learning about invertebrates and beetles. They have

:17:56. > :18:00.to be bred very specially and you have to understand the habitat that

:18:01. > :18:05.makes them happy and the right conditions. Normally, in a tank,

:18:06. > :18:11.they have at least five inches to bury themselves in. You can't get

:18:12. > :18:14.them from a pet shop. There are insect shows where you can go and

:18:15. > :18:20.buy them but you need to do the research. You need to do try and

:18:21. > :18:29.read them. I have unsuccessfully done that yet. People are breeding

:18:30. > :18:33.beetles because they eat them. What do you think? I have eaten quite a

:18:34. > :18:41.lot of insects myself. My research has taken me to weird places. Is

:18:42. > :18:52.this a beetle burger? It is made out of meal worm and cricket, mushrooms

:18:53. > :18:56.and coriander. It was really lovely. We eat prawns, we the invertebrates

:18:57. > :19:02.of the sea. Lobsters used to be considered like cockroaches. They

:19:03. > :19:07.are very rich in protein. They are very environmentally friendly to

:19:08. > :19:11.farm. You can produce more protein more quickly farming insects than

:19:12. > :19:15.you can with cattle. In the future, it could be beneficial to the

:19:16. > :19:20.environment. That's one of the reasons I'm really interested in it.

:19:21. > :19:24.I can't talk about it without putting my money where my mouth is.

:19:25. > :19:33.You've got a beetle that we found here locally. Here we are. It

:19:34. > :19:41.climbed to the very top. It's a wasp beetle. We filmed it earlier. Very

:19:42. > :19:47.beautiful animal. It's a mimic. It is not toxic, it is pretending to be

:19:48. > :19:52.a wasp. We can release this beetle. If you take the top off and put it

:19:53. > :19:57.into your hand. We release it where we found it. We wouldn't move it. If

:19:58. > :20:02.it doesn't take off, you've got a friend for the next few minutes. I'm

:20:03. > :20:11.all for that. Isn't it beautiful? So clever. What about that? Perfect.

:20:12. > :20:15.You must be pleased, beetle rehabilitation live on BBC TV.

:20:16. > :20:24.That's what you pay your licence fee for. Thank you very much. Good luck

:20:25. > :20:31.with the next book, I look forward to the beetle battle. I want to see

:20:32. > :20:39.the CGI. Mine started troopers was good but this will be better. And it

:20:40. > :20:49.is entomological accurate. Let's see one of our wildlife heroes. Jules's

:20:50. > :21:04.love of wildlife happened 13 years ago. She rescued a hedgehog 13 years

:21:05. > :21:17.ago. From humble beginnings Prickles hedgehog rescue was born. It's 20/7

:21:18. > :21:23.365 days a year. I never thought it would become as big as it has. She

:21:24. > :21:28.has converted her garage into a hospital for the care of tiny

:21:29. > :21:33.hedgehogs. They are very early this year. It's probably down to a good

:21:34. > :21:39.spring in terms of weather. Prickles has a dedicated group of volunteers

:21:40. > :21:44.helping out every day. This little one has literally just arrived. I

:21:45. > :21:50.estimated to be about four days old. Unfortunately, mum has run off.

:21:51. > :21:57.We're hoping that we will be able to locate her later. Incredibly tiny,

:21:58. > :22:04.isn't it? You know, I'm confident. We will get them through. We've got

:22:05. > :22:12.the experience to know exactly what to do with this little one. Rescuing

:22:13. > :22:20.hedgehogs isn't even Jules's paid job. I split my life into two. Sleep

:22:21. > :22:27.doesn't come into it. I work with children during the day. Full-time.

:22:28. > :22:36.What happens is, this time of year, my day starts about 4:45am. I get up

:22:37. > :22:41.and feed any hedgehogs we've got in. Then a fantastic team of volunteers

:22:42. > :22:47.step in and feed during the day when I go off and do my day job. Then I

:22:48. > :22:50.come home at the end of the day to pick up Hogg at feeding or to deal

:22:51. > :23:02.with any complex casualties that have come in. It's very much a life

:23:03. > :23:10.of two parts. APPLAUSE I'm delighted that Jules is with us

:23:11. > :23:17.tonight. A huge well done for all you your hard work. Anyone who says

:23:18. > :23:25.sleep doesn't come into it deserves a wildlife award from ours. It's

:23:26. > :23:32.time to resolve the quiz. At the very beginning of the show, we ask

:23:33. > :23:36.you who these feathers belong to. Quite a lot of people getting this

:23:37. > :23:44.wrong and saying the same thing. People like Craig said great work

:23:45. > :23:52.tell. We had waxwing, great tip. Debbie said greenfinch. Many people

:23:53. > :24:03.got it right. Jack Dawson, Cockney Rebel, Justin car. If you said,

:24:04. > :24:09.Goldfinch. You got it exactly right. There it is. You can see the wing

:24:10. > :24:13.bars on these feathers. Shout out to Jesse Wilkinson and Phil Barber who

:24:14. > :24:19.got this right. They said this belongs to a fledgling Goldfinch.

:24:20. > :24:27.You can see how we can identify that. There is the end of it. At the

:24:28. > :24:31.root, you see what we call the pin. The waxy sheath that covers the

:24:32. > :24:36.feather as it's coming through. You say it might be moulting but not all

:24:37. > :24:41.of them in one go. This was a young Goldfinch we found on the farm which

:24:42. > :24:47.belongs to this gentleman. He's been such a great host. Squatting on his

:24:48. > :24:53.land but not doing any damage, we hope. Time for a quick picture.

:24:54. > :25:01.Chris, this is fascinating. Any idea what this is? It's a scorpion fly. I

:25:02. > :25:06.can't tell you which species. There aren't many species in the UK. I

:25:07. > :25:11.didn't know we had anything that looked like that. You can see how it

:25:12. > :25:24.gets its name but it doesn't sting like a scorpion. You've had a little

:25:25. > :25:29.owl guest in your garden. We found a little owl sitting in the living

:25:30. > :25:34.room. Quite friendly, no mess. We were able to lift it up, it sat in

:25:35. > :25:40.our hands, let others take it back outside. A very friendly soul. We

:25:41. > :25:51.hope he comes back. How exciting was it for you? Very excited. It came

:25:52. > :26:02.down your chimney. Far better than Santa! Brings you more joy. Time now

:26:03. > :26:07.for fantastical beasts. So, the purpose is for our guests to come up

:26:08. > :26:13.with an animal that could exist. It needs to have realistic ecology. It

:26:14. > :26:28.could be an animal that might evolve in the future. Stefanie, you have

:26:29. > :26:33.got yours. This is a midgiephant. When you are picnicking in the

:26:34. > :26:40.Highlands of Scotland, you can see it coming. A gigantic Mitch. You

:26:41. > :26:53.know that midges suck the blood. It's going to do that. These things

:26:54. > :26:58.are going to be apocalyptic. There won't be many Scots there if they

:26:59. > :27:04.come flying around Scotland. They won't need independence, there won't

:27:05. > :27:11.be any of them left. Unsurprisingly, I've plumped for a beetle. This is a

:27:12. > :27:16.trash beetle. In its lava form, it lives in landfill sites eating

:27:17. > :27:21.plastic. For about five years and then it Povh Bates and out comes a

:27:22. > :27:28.beautiful trash beetle, multicoloured because of the plastic

:27:29. > :27:36.ingested. And, of course, it has the horns of a Hercules beetle. It can

:27:37. > :27:40.help break down the waste. The larvae eat the plastic and recycled

:27:41. > :27:45.it into its body, what about when the birds eat the plastic beetle? I

:27:46. > :27:52.hadn't thought about the birds and I should have. It was going so well.

:27:53. > :27:59.We loved the recycling. Not just birds. This would have to be giant.

:28:00. > :28:04.Look how much trash we've got. Then we are into the realms of the

:28:05. > :28:09.midgiephant. I think this is the realms of total illusion. I was

:28:10. > :28:15.inspired by this because I read an article where caterpillars had been

:28:16. > :28:20.proven to be able to digest plastic. This is where the idea came from. If

:28:21. > :28:26.caterpillars can do it, so can beetle larva A. I went to judgment.

:28:27. > :28:31.You started well. But then I got worried with the last beetle is

:28:32. > :28:35.flying around. I'm going to mid-score that one. There's hardly

:28:36. > :28:43.any room on our board. This is not going to go. Now, I like the

:28:44. > :28:50.elephant. I love and apocalyptic insect. Sadly, this is all we've got

:28:51. > :28:53.time for today. We've got our Springwatch programme coming up at

:28:54. > :29:01.HBM on this fine sunny evening in Sherborne. Thank you and a big

:29:02. > :29:06.Hang on, you haven't even told me what it is yet.