Episode 7

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:00:12. > :00:18.It's Wednesday, so that means... We've got 90 whole minutes of

:00:18. > :00:24.wonderful wildlife. Including punk herons. A gluttonous buzzard And an

:00:24. > :00:34.insect that builds its own disguise. And that and this little guy too.

:00:34. > :00:59.

:00:59. > :01:05.Hello and welcome to Springwatch, coming to you from the beautiful

:01:05. > :01:08.wooded slopes of the RSPB reserve in Wales. Tonight we've got all the

:01:08. > :01:14.usual ingredients, the best of British wildlife coming to you live

:01:14. > :01:19.in real time. You can't beat that, so stay tuned. If you were watching

:01:19. > :01:25.yesterday, you watched an extraordinary draum yawn fold in

:01:25. > :01:29.our pied flycatcher nest. What happened today? We'll tell you

:01:29. > :01:38.later in the programme. We need your help to solve a mystery, what

:01:38. > :01:43.is scaring our barn owls? The spiky quiffs and the naughty undertones

:01:43. > :01:47.of these herons are going to allow to us bring fantastic music into

:01:47. > :01:53.the show a bit later on. They're teenagers and they kick each other,

:01:53. > :01:58.that's a clue. Normally at this time, I'm setting a quiz for you.

:01:58. > :02:02.We're going to do it differently tonight. We'd like you to ask us

:02:02. > :02:05.questions. If there's any question, any question about anything that

:02:05. > :02:12.comes up tonight, then ask us. We'll try to answer the questions

:02:12. > :02:16.live as it happens. What can you do? Ask them on the web, on Twitter

:02:17. > :02:20.or on our Facebook site. Get them coming in. If we can't answer them

:02:20. > :02:27.on this programme, we'll try to answer them on Unsprung. Talking of

:02:27. > :02:32.that, hop it. Get it ready. I hope he'll leave a trail of breadcrumbs.

:02:33. > :02:38.As well as all, that we have got everybody's Welshman Iolo Williams

:02:38. > :02:42.on an island not too far from here. Welcome to magnificent Skomer

:02:42. > :02:46.Island. Today is United Nations world oceans day, when we should

:02:46. > :02:50.all be celebrating the wealth of our seas. That's exactly what we're

:02:50. > :02:56.going to be doing here on Skomer as well as catching up with our

:02:56. > :03:00.puffins. We're looking forward to that. If

:03:00. > :03:03.you were watching last night's programme, you'll know that we had

:03:03. > :03:08.a very real drama here. Some of the birds that we've been watching over

:03:08. > :03:11.the last couple of weeks, well, they got into all sorts of trouble.

:03:11. > :03:14.It was our pied flycatchers and It was our pied flycatchers and

:03:14. > :03:19.this is what we saw happening until last night. This was the female.

:03:19. > :03:24.She had been looking, not entirely well. Her chicks were OK. She was

:03:24. > :03:29.feeding them. Then she left them for a long time. Sadly one of those

:03:29. > :03:32.chicks perished. She came back with food. Sadly she left them for so

:03:32. > :03:38.long that they'd got rather chilled. As you could see they weren't

:03:38. > :03:42.taking the food then. The male came in and tried to feed. Sadly another

:03:42. > :03:47.chick had died. By the end of last night's programme we just had two

:03:47. > :03:51.of the four chicks surviving. However, we finished the programme

:03:51. > :03:55.feeling cautiously optimistic because the male had been in and

:03:55. > :04:01.fed and the female was still brooding them, but in the middle of

:04:01. > :04:06.the night, she started to lock a bit twitchy, as you can see here.

:04:06. > :04:08.She left the chicks again. Now this was very bad news. She shouldn't

:04:08. > :04:14.have been leaving them in the middle of the night, particularly

:04:14. > :04:17.if they were already feeling a little bit cold. She was back.

:04:17. > :04:21.Still brooding. We kept everything crossed that maybe they were OK.

:04:21. > :04:26.But as you can see here, this was this morning. Three chick has died

:04:26. > :04:30.and one was looking very, very unhealthy indeed. On the brink. She

:04:30. > :04:33.continued to come in. She's got food. Obviously they're not at this

:04:33. > :04:37.stage able to appeal for that food. She has nothing to do with it. She

:04:37. > :04:40.tried to brood them. I'm afraid that the last chick had frankly,

:04:40. > :04:45.run out of energy and despite the fact this she was now trying to

:04:45. > :04:49.keep it warm, when we looked at them at about 6.30am, it had died.

:04:49. > :04:53.This is what's happened through the rest of the day. Both parents are

:04:53. > :04:57.confused by what's happened in here. She's continued to come in and

:04:57. > :05:01.brood them. The male has been in and out a couple of times. But

:05:01. > :05:06.sadly, those chicks have finished and the nest is over for this year

:05:06. > :05:12.at least. It is a great tragedy, nobody wants to watch the great

:05:12. > :05:15.loss of an entire family like that. The confusing thing is that we've

:05:15. > :05:18.seen chicks die over the years. We've been doing Springwatch for a

:05:18. > :05:22.very long time. It's just one of those things that happened, but

:05:22. > :05:29.they seemed so robust, when we first met this family. They do. I

:05:29. > :05:35.have to tell you that 30% of all the pied flycatcher broods that

:05:35. > :05:39.hatch are destined to fail before they fledge. Weather is one

:05:39. > :05:45.contender for why. We haven't had weather that's too rough. It hasn't

:05:45. > :05:50.affected the abundance of food. The adult washlers have been in and out

:05:50. > :05:54.with food. The female's body weight, goes back a few days, as to when

:05:54. > :05:58.the male wasn't attending. You think, she's got a lot of energy

:05:58. > :06:02.into producing this. She'd laid the eggs, sat there brooding them, unk

:06:02. > :06:05.baiting them until they've hatched. Not able to feed at maximum

:06:05. > :06:10.efficiency. What she was hoping for is that as soon as they hatched,

:06:10. > :06:15.the male would help out, so she could build up her reserves again.

:06:15. > :06:19.But it didn't happen. If the male had been more atentive, she could

:06:19. > :06:23.have fed herself. The chicks would be carrying on being fed by the

:06:23. > :06:28.male. Instead, she had this huge pressure to keep the chicks fed,

:06:28. > :06:31.but at the same time, was losing weight herself, needing to feed

:06:31. > :06:35.herself, which meant that she left the chicks for longer periods.

:06:35. > :06:40.they got chilled. In the end she's going to make the decision that she

:06:40. > :06:44.looks after herself. She's an adult breeding member of the population,

:06:44. > :06:48.that's the most valuable part of any population. She had to feed

:06:48. > :06:52.herself up and as a result, the chicks have sadly been sacrificed

:06:52. > :06:56.this year. Fingers crossed she'll be back this year and successfully

:06:56. > :07:02.rear a brood. That nest was full of bad news but we had fascinating

:07:02. > :07:06.behaviour in another nest. This is what we saw last night. Our barn

:07:06. > :07:10.owls were coming back to the nest with plenty of food. There's voles

:07:10. > :07:14.and mice being brought in. When this one comes in, they kick off at

:07:14. > :07:19.something. This is very, very strange. The chicks are looking

:07:19. > :07:25.like there's a threat out there. Then the female or adult bird, at

:07:25. > :07:31.least, is making this really distinct warning or alarm call,

:07:31. > :07:34.very typical of barn owls. This hissing, they will also go into a

:07:34. > :07:40.powerful display. They fold their wings forward and sway from side to

:07:41. > :07:45.side if they get really upset. You can also hear a clicking sound that

:07:45. > :07:49.the chicks and adults are making. This is typical of tawny owls and

:07:49. > :07:53.barn owls. What's really interesting is that she is clearly

:07:53. > :07:59.looking at something, there is something and unfortunately

:07:59. > :08:03.whatever that something is or was was out of sight of our cameras. We

:08:03. > :08:08.just didn't know what she was looking at, but then we remembered

:08:08. > :08:13.something that the story developers recorded last week. Have a look at

:08:13. > :08:23.this, it's the chicks and they are making that same sort of alarm call,

:08:23. > :08:24.

:08:24. > :08:28.just listen to this: (HISS) You can see again fixated on something, as

:08:28. > :08:32.is the adult bird. They're looking down out of the window. They're not

:08:32. > :08:36.looking at the camera. It sounds like they're trying to inflate a

:08:36. > :08:41.Zeppelin or something. This is antagonistic behaviour. Something

:08:41. > :08:50.is outside. If you were listening carefully, just before they got

:08:50. > :08:55.agitated can you hear this sound... That might have been the thing that

:08:55. > :08:59.set them off. I honestly don't know what that sound is. We've asked

:08:59. > :09:06.everyone around here. None of the other tholjists know what it is

:09:06. > :09:12.either. Frankly, if you do, let us know.

:09:12. > :09:18.Do you think you know what that is that might have antagonised those

:09:18. > :09:23.chicks? Contact us on the website. You could contact us via Twitter or

:09:23. > :09:27.the Facebook pace as well. Now we've got a bit of news about the

:09:27. > :09:35.Ospreys. We certainly have. Great news, as you saw yesterday. For the

:09:35. > :09:39.first time in more than 447 -- 400 years three chicks have hatched.

:09:39. > :09:43.They've been fed today Kate. They were worried about them. It was a

:09:43. > :09:48.first time breeder this parent. They've all been fed and doing

:09:48. > :09:52.really well. We will keep you updated. We will. Now as Iolo

:09:52. > :09:56.Williams said, it is world ocean day today. He is going to be

:09:56. > :10:03.celebrating the beauty of the seas around Britain. Let's just remind

:10:03. > :10:07.you where he is. We're just off the coast of mid-Wales. He's a little

:10:07. > :10:11.bit further south, just off the tip of the coast. If you want to be

:10:11. > :10:17.more precise, he is extractly at that point there.

:10:17. > :10:22.Over to you. Warm welcome back here to Skomer

:10:22. > :10:27.Island, where it has been a stunning day. I've escaped for a

:10:27. > :10:30.while. I've come down to north while. I've come down to north

:10:30. > :10:34.haven to this lovely beach. This is probably the most cosy and peaceful

:10:34. > :10:39.part of the whole island. It's also a wonderful place for me

:10:39. > :10:44.to introduce you to Skomer's amazing marine life. Now the seas

:10:44. > :10:48.around the island and the nearby Marlowe's peninsula, are one of

:10:48. > :10:52.only three marine nature reserves in the whole of the UK and

:10:52. > :10:56.deservedly so. The strong currents and upWellings mix nutrients into a

:10:56. > :11:01.soup. You have the gulf stream, this warm current of water that

:11:01. > :11:05.comes all the way from the Caribbean. This is where it hits

:11:05. > :11:10.Europe. You have a mixture of cold water loving species and species

:11:10. > :11:13.that we would generally associate with the Mediterranean. When I had

:11:13. > :11:23.the opportunity to go diving beneath the waves, I grasped it

:11:23. > :11:31.

:11:31. > :11:36.thing is under water might not be as clear as I'd like it to be. When

:11:36. > :11:46.the visibility is good, it is out of this world, but I'm just hoping

:11:46. > :11:59.

:11:59. > :12:04.the murk in the water is tiny particles of food that most of the

:12:04. > :12:13.animals here feed on. The sheer variety of creatures and colours

:12:13. > :12:18.down here is just mind blowing. This is a sea cucumber and the

:12:18. > :12:24.whole floor here is covered with them. Spider crab here. This is a

:12:24. > :12:30.small one. They can grow to be a metre across and more.

:12:30. > :12:33.But a lot of the animals that Skomer's rich in could easily be

:12:33. > :12:41.taken for plants at first sight. They're brightly coloured and don't

:12:41. > :12:46.move. They wait for the currents of the sea to bring their food to them.

:12:46. > :12:54.These are yellow anemones, one of several species found around the

:12:54. > :13:04.coast of Skomer. They simply grow another anemone, hence the carpet

:13:04. > :13:17.

:13:17. > :13:22.Ross coral or a potato crisp rhyosome. It's a series of minute

:13:22. > :13:26.creatures living together. You can see a pale fuzz along the service,

:13:26. > :13:30.those are the tentacles filtering these nutrients out of the water

:13:30. > :13:34.and these other things are able to flourish here on Skomer because it

:13:34. > :13:37.is a protected area. There's no trawling with nets, there are no

:13:38. > :13:44.boats mooring everywhere. These are beautiful, but very, very fragile

:13:44. > :13:53.too. But there was one animal above all

:13:53. > :14:00.the others that I wanted to see. This is the pink sea fan, usually

:14:00. > :14:04.associated with warmer waters. It's at the northern edge of its range.

:14:05. > :14:11.It gives the place a tropical feel to it. It's a soft coral, quite

:14:11. > :14:16.fragile. It will bend with the swell. They say this in cold water

:14:16. > :14:24.grows at most a centimetre every year. This must be 50, 60 years old

:14:24. > :14:31.here. Wrapped in it is a dog fish egg case. Look at that.

:14:31. > :14:41.Every square sentiment -- centimetre of rock is covers in

:14:41. > :14:49.

:14:49. > :14:53.It's like diving in tropical waters. Some of the things I've seen down

:14:53. > :14:57.there, I've never seen before and I never, ever thought you'd find them

:14:57. > :15:07.here off the seas of Skomer. It's an incredible place. If you get the

:15:07. > :15:11.

:15:11. > :15:16.I have to tell you that was a wonderful experience. A huge thank

:15:16. > :15:21.you to Phil and the marine nature reserve team there and, of course,

:15:21. > :15:25.rich seas mean a rich Skomer island. When you come back to us, we are

:15:25. > :15:31.not going to stay on dry land and wait for the puffins to come to us.

:15:31. > :15:35.Oh no, we are going to go out there to look for the puffins.

:15:35. > :15:40.How wonderful, I have to say I was extremely jealous of that dive. It

:15:40. > :15:45.looked fantastic. Getting cold and wet in Welsh water! The wildlife

:15:45. > :15:51.and the animals and plants there are mind-blowing. We look forward

:15:51. > :15:54.to joining Iolo later. We have come down to what we are calling heron

:15:54. > :15:58.point. The studio is half a kilometre back there. We are here

:15:58. > :16:03.and beyond the trees over there is where our herons are. You can't

:16:03. > :16:09.quite see the nest because of the foliage but we can cut to them live.

:16:09. > :16:15.Let's see what they're up to. are getting fairly typical views of

:16:15. > :16:20.this. We see two hunched young herons looking, well, a little bit

:16:20. > :16:24.brassed off with the weather. They're sulking really. Their heads

:16:24. > :16:28.are are under their wings. They're going to stay nice and warm.

:16:28. > :16:33.They've been very active. They have been very active. They don't just

:16:33. > :16:37.sit hunched lying that all day long. Have a look at what they've been up

:16:37. > :16:43.to over the last day or so. As you can see, one looks like it's

:16:43. > :16:48.just taken off and fledged, but, Chris, both of them have really

:16:48. > :16:54.been trying out their wings and amazing legs. They are jumping

:16:54. > :16:57.right up and about in the trees, using air currents to help them

:16:57. > :17:00.because they're not accomplished fliers. They keep coming back to

:17:00. > :17:04.the nest, this is where they're getting the food from the adult and

:17:04. > :17:11.they know they're safe from predators. But they're great little

:17:11. > :17:19.characters these herons, I like them. I like the quiff. You have a

:17:19. > :17:23.still a bit... -- a style a bit. used to be. This has inspired us,

:17:23. > :17:31.we thought why not play the greatest pop record of all time, as

:17:31. > :17:41.defined by John Peel and underlined by the Undertones, I give you

:17:41. > :17:48.

:17:48. > :17:53.# A teenager dreams so hard to beat # Every time she walks down the

:17:53. > :17:56.street # Another girl in the neighbourhood

:17:56. > :18:03.# Wish she was mine, she looks so good

:18:03. > :18:13.# I wanna hold you, hold you tight # Get teenager kicks right through

:18:13. > :18:25.

:18:25. > :18:32.Nothing beats that! Not my choice, Kevin Carter suggested that one

:18:32. > :18:36.actually. Did he? Well done Kevin. Exhausted! Now, they haven't just

:18:36. > :18:41.been falling around in the nest, there is the serious business of

:18:41. > :18:45.learning how to feed. Our wildlife cameraman caught this wonderful bit

:18:46. > :18:50.of behaviour, these are our fledgeling herons, doing what they

:18:50. > :18:53.do best, stabbing those great beaks into it's water to find food. But

:18:53. > :18:56.not very successfully. No, they're getting bits of grass and weed and

:18:56. > :19:01.mud at the moment. But what will happen is they'll probably follow

:19:01. > :19:06.the adults to an area where there is a rich supply of food and the

:19:06. > :19:10.side of a small fish will catch air air attention -- will catch their

:19:10. > :19:13.attention. They'll realise the reward is sa meal for themselves.

:19:13. > :19:16.It's a case of practice makes perfect and I am glad to see

:19:16. > :19:21.they're out there doing that. will be fed by the adults, they're

:19:21. > :19:29.not just going to be relying on mud and leaves? Not at the moment.

:19:29. > :19:33.That's why they're back on the nest. We will see the adults carrying, or

:19:33. > :19:38.still regurtitating food into that nest. It's not just the herons,

:19:38. > :19:43.again beyond the trees, we have our Buzzards. Let's see what's going on

:19:43. > :19:47.there. There is the adult bird. Fresh greenery that's come in

:19:47. > :19:52.recently. We have been noticing this over the time we have been on

:19:52. > :19:55.air, bringing in fresh green leaves which you think, Chris, might have

:19:55. > :20:00.some sort of effect to keep insects or parasites away. There's got to

:20:00. > :20:03.be a reason for it. No Buzzard is going to spend its valuable time

:20:03. > :20:07.snapping off fresh greenary, carrying it back to the nest and

:20:07. > :20:17.putting it there. We think, in some birds of prey, that when they

:20:17. > :20:18.

:20:18. > :20:23.trample the leaves they give give off chemicals which have - insect

:20:23. > :20:27.icidle qualities. Now, as you saw there, the chick

:20:27. > :20:32.was quite well hidden, both by the adult bird and all those fresh oak

:20:32. > :20:36.leaves, but if you have been watching on our webcams, which you

:20:36. > :20:39.can do by going to our website, you will have seen the remarkable

:20:39. > :20:42.transformation that has happened to our chicks since we have been on

:20:42. > :20:44.air. This was just before we came on air

:20:45. > :20:51.when the cameras went first on the nest.

:20:51. > :20:55.This is now, today. Look at that, from one grey fluffy

:20:55. > :20:58.Downey chick, to a bird that's looking not far off atkuplthood --

:20:58. > :21:01.adulthood. They have a couple of down coats before they get real

:21:01. > :21:06.feathers. They don't want to invest too much material in feathers early

:21:06. > :21:13.on because they want the skeleton to grow. When they get rid of the

:21:13. > :21:18.down coats the real feathers come true and we started to see them.

:21:18. > :21:22.Vicky wanted to know, a great question, how do feathers grow?

:21:22. > :21:26.They come out like hair, don't they? It's a follicle like our

:21:26. > :21:30.hair? You are exactly right. Birds have thin skin. But in that skin

:21:30. > :21:35.and growing from the time they first emerge from the egg, at the

:21:35. > :21:39.embryo stage, they have a series of follicles all over the body that

:21:39. > :21:43.produce feathers. Initially the feather is a living thing, it's

:21:43. > :21:47.full of blood and keeps carrying material to make the feather there,

:21:47. > :21:50.so at the moment the young Buzzard will be fragile. If you snap the

:21:50. > :21:54.feathers off it will bleed and they would die and it would have to grow

:21:54. > :21:59.another one but when the growth is finished it's all sealed off, the

:21:59. > :22:03.feather is dead tissue, like our fingernail as it were. When they

:22:03. > :22:07.moult them they grow a new one. If a feather does get lost that

:22:07. > :22:12.stimulates the follicle to start a new one. Quite complicated.

:22:12. > :22:16.feathery bit of the feather, that's all sort of curled up in the

:22:16. > :22:23.follicle itself or in the quickly? It's curled up in like a waxy

:22:23. > :22:30.sheath. At the moment you might see birds preening and hen they shake

:22:30. > :22:37.dust comes out,. There you are, I hope that helps you, I hope that

:22:37. > :22:47.answers the question. They've been growing furiously. It's had a

:22:47. > :23:23.

:23:23. > :23:28.I love that film, thank you very much to our editors for putting

:23:28. > :23:36.that together. Now you are going to be really impressed. Go on. I have

:23:36. > :23:39.done a pie chart all of my own! Look at that! I just think - now

:23:39. > :23:48.you are going to be impressed, look, we have looked at what the Buzzard

:23:48. > :23:53.has been eating, roughly the same amount of mammals and small birds,

:23:53. > :23:58.a little panchant for the frog and toad. And grass snakes. Are you

:23:58. > :24:05.impressed? I am, if you should ever want to be loved by anyone, put me

:24:05. > :24:10.on the list. Look, it's fantastic. It's statistically accurate, ten

:24:10. > :24:14.out of ten. But the presentation, Kate, I mean, frankly, look it's a

:24:14. > :24:19.bit scrappy. It's not even round. What is that? That's a mouse.

:24:19. > :24:24.a good start. That was my humble pie pie chart. It was a humble pie

:24:24. > :24:28.chart. I think you can do better. am off. I have upset her now. I

:24:28. > :24:32.shouldn't have screwed that up. Let's move on to another film.

:24:32. > :24:35.Charlie elder is a man who wanted to see all of the British birds

:24:35. > :24:45.that were on the amber and red list, those which are critically

:24:45. > :24:49.

:24:49. > :24:54.endangered but there was one that A worrying number of British birds

:24:54. > :24:57.have suffered alarming declines over the last 20 or 30 years. A lot

:24:57. > :25:01.of people talk about saving birds for the next generation, but with

:25:01. > :25:06.some of these species the worry is they might be lost within our life

:25:06. > :25:09.Times. One in five British birds are

:25:09. > :25:19.currently considered threatened, not just rare birds, but also a

:25:19. > :25:21.

:25:21. > :25:24.number of common birds. Birds like house sparrows, Starlings and heron

:25:24. > :25:28.gulls. To help conservationists prioritise

:25:28. > :25:33.which species need the most help, all of the UK's birds are placed on

:25:33. > :25:37.one of three lists, either the green, amber or red list. Those on

:25:37. > :25:44.the red list are the ones in the most trouble.

:25:44. > :25:49.The red list became a very big part of my life. I decided to set out in

:25:49. > :25:54.my free time to find every bird on the red list and also to find out

:25:54. > :25:57.why these birds were in trouble. My quest took me all around the

:25:57. > :26:01.British Isles and led to me writing a book about my endeavours. I

:26:01. > :26:04.wanted to highlight the plight of the birds.

:26:04. > :26:08.As I was nearing the end of my travels, the red list was revised

:26:08. > :26:13.from the 40 that I had originally set out to see, to 52 and over the

:26:13. > :26:16.last year or so I have been trying to see all the new additions to the

:26:16. > :26:22.list but there's one bird that's been added to the list that I would

:26:22. > :26:26.love to see and that's the hawFinch, it's a notoriously elusive bird

:26:26. > :26:32.that I could spend ages travelling around Britain staring at tree-tops

:26:32. > :26:40.so I am going to have to rely on expert help here angery Lewis has

:26:40. > :26:45.been -- Gerry Lewis, I am pinning my hopes on him. I am excited, this

:26:46. > :26:53.is a striking and handsome bird. It's not often I look forward to

:26:53. > :26:58.getting up at 5.00am. The hawfinch is Britain's biggest

:26:59. > :27:03.finch and it's able to crack open cherry stones with that formidable

:27:03. > :27:09.powerful beak. Gerry coaxes them down with this carpet of sunflower

:27:09. > :27:18.seeds. That's amazing. A brilliant view.

:27:18. > :27:24.They can pick out the size of the bill. That's fantastic.

:27:24. > :27:29.Once caught in the net, Gerry carefully retraoefs the bird for --

:27:29. > :27:38.retrieves the bird for processing and is going to let me hold it.

:27:38. > :27:42.OK, got him. Wow.

:27:42. > :27:47.That's incredible. You certainly feel a bit wary

:27:47. > :27:54.holding one. Especially as I am not experienced and you see the size of

:27:54. > :28:01.that bill. If you put your hand right in the bag and then just let

:28:01. > :28:10.go of the pweurbd. -- bird. Oh, he tried me there,

:28:10. > :28:16.look, two indents there. To be almost pecked by a hawfinch

:28:16. > :28:26.is an honour, this one is a handsome male and his bill is a blu

:28:26. > :28:27.

:28:27. > :28:29.y grey colour. It's coming into the breeding season. That purply colour.

:28:29. > :28:35.Gerry inspects the condition, weighs and measures all the birds

:28:35. > :28:43.he catches. You are going to let him join his

:28:43. > :28:49.mates then? Yeah, do you want to... He looks a feisty one!

:28:49. > :28:57.Gerry's work is vital, if we are to understand why hawfinchs, sadly,

:28:57. > :29:02.now find themselves on the red list. They got a pretty powerful flight.

:29:02. > :29:05.That was wonderful. Thank you.

:29:05. > :29:09.There willing something sad for me about my old bird books becoming

:29:09. > :29:14.out of date, simply because many of the birds in them no longer lived

:29:14. > :29:19.in Britain. As much as I love seeing these birds up close, my

:29:19. > :29:23.hope for the future is that the red list decreases in the coming years.

:29:24. > :29:33.After all, my travels had been about celebrating these inspiring

:29:34. > :29:36.

:29:36. > :29:42.Profound and poignant stuff. I'm sorry. It's no good to me now. You

:29:42. > :29:45.really want to see me cry, don't you. Any way... Hawfinchs are

:29:45. > :29:50.fantastic birds. A few days ago, I was at home, I was going to be

:29:50. > :29:58.watching a game of football, office on the line, saying one of our

:29:58. > :30:02.viewers, Kirsty Clayton had rung up and said she had fantastic birds in

:30:02. > :30:06.her garden. The game was kicked into touch and it was worth it.

:30:06. > :30:10.Result, not only a cup of tea, chocolate cake! Better than

:30:10. > :30:16.football. Kirsty, how long have these birds been here? I noticed

:30:16. > :30:22.them last summer. They were calling and feeding and stuff. Male just

:30:23. > :30:27.come out bull finch. For me a big scoring bird. I'm going to give it

:30:27. > :30:33.7.8 and that's a very high score. Obviously, you're a fan too.

:30:33. > :30:39.Absolutely. What is it about them? Their plumage is really amazing.

:30:39. > :30:45.They're bright, beautiful. They go like an old couple together.

:30:45. > :30:49.They're very monogamous. There's a likelihood that these are the

:30:49. > :30:54.couple that were in your garden last year. Where are they nesting?

:30:54. > :30:58.There's a camellia hedge just there. I went past and I heard tweeting,

:30:59. > :31:02.they were reaching up out of it with their fluffy heads. What a

:31:02. > :31:10.treat. In true Springwatch fashion, we couldn't resist putting in a

:31:10. > :31:15.nest cam to try and record the chicks. We got some awesome shots.

:31:15. > :31:17.They're out collecting food for the young at the moment. They feed them

:31:18. > :31:22.through regurgitation. They're basically seed feeders. They're

:31:22. > :31:29.after soft fruits. They peel away the outside. They're not interested

:31:29. > :31:35.in the covering. They're after the seeds inside. Their monstrous bill

:31:35. > :31:40.is that they can snap these open easily. The young are nowhere near

:31:40. > :31:45.as attractive as the adults. They're little monsters. Are they?

:31:45. > :31:49.They're grotesque. All beak, bulgy eyed, but at the moment looking

:31:49. > :31:55.rough. They're in the nest for about 16 days and then they'll

:31:56. > :32:00.fledge. Their flight skills will develop for until Mr and Mrs

:32:00. > :32:05.Sparrowhawk arrives and probably take a couple of them. The thought,

:32:05. > :32:09.personally, of a male sparrowhawk eating a male bull finch is

:32:09. > :32:18.perversely a frequent fantasy of mine. Perhaps I didn't ought to

:32:18. > :32:24.have told Kirsty that. Perhaps it's time for a piece of cake.

:32:24. > :32:30.I think she really regretted asking you round. She looked mortified.

:32:30. > :32:34.But those chicks, don't they look like dinosaurs. They do. Very

:32:34. > :32:40.powerful bill. The crushing power of a hawfinch is 43 kilograms in a

:32:40. > :32:44.bird, that's the equiff lebt of us having jaws to crush with the power

:32:44. > :32:48.of 60 tons. They must come pretty close to that I think. Martin, have

:32:48. > :32:54.you got news? I have got to say, quickly, I had three pairs of bull

:32:54. > :33:00.finches on my apple tree. They ate all the buds, but it's worth it,

:33:00. > :33:10.isn't it? Certainly is. Plant more trees. I will. Our barmyi birds

:33:10. > :33:12.

:33:12. > :33:18.nest challenge. They have been A robins' nest. Yes, this one

:33:18. > :33:23.they'll never get caught short. They're in a toilet site. They're

:33:23. > :33:30.from David Barnes. Are they flushing their faecal sacks? Stop

:33:30. > :33:34.it. This one, lovely Great Tit, little bit under the arm. Brilliant.

:33:34. > :33:40.We would like more please. It's quite a challenge. The bar is very,

:33:40. > :33:43.very high. Please keep them coming in, if you wo. Have we had any

:33:43. > :33:48.questions from our viewers? We have. They started to come in almost

:33:48. > :33:54.immediately. We're running short of time. We'll do one quickly. This is

:33:54. > :34:00.from Julia on Twitter. "Where did barn owls live before we built

:34:00. > :34:03.barns?" Quickly, hollow trees. When a tree breaks over, I found a barn

:34:03. > :34:08.owl's nest in a willow tree that snapped off. It would have been

:34:08. > :34:14.natural calfities. A few of them would have nested in caves and

:34:14. > :34:19.cliff ledges as well. We have unsprung straight after this. We'll

:34:19. > :34:23.answer more then. Now back to Skomer.

:34:23. > :34:28.Welcome back, live to Skomer Island. Now earlier on, I mentioned the

:34:28. > :34:31.fact that it's because of the rich seas with plenty of fish that

:34:31. > :34:35.Skomer Island supports hundreds of thousands of sea birds. For

:34:35. > :34:40.evidence of that, you've only got to look over my shoulder. You've

:34:40. > :34:45.got rafts of hundreds of puffins, bobbing up and down on the water.

:34:45. > :34:51.They do this every evening here in the shelter of north haven. Some

:34:51. > :34:55.will be preening, making sure their feathers are in peak condition,

:34:55. > :35:00.vitally important for a bird who spends most of its life out to sea.

:35:00. > :35:06.They might head out to sea again or head into their burrows. The other

:35:06. > :35:16.day I was able to swim out into the middle of these birds for a close

:35:16. > :35:24.

:35:24. > :35:30.Conditions are perfect this evening. The sun is shining and the puffins

:35:30. > :35:34.are out on the water in their hundreds. Mike, the cameraman and I,

:35:34. > :35:44.are going to see if we can snorkle up to them and have a closer look.

:35:44. > :35:52.

:35:52. > :36:00.If you're patient and move slowly, you really can get right in amongst

:36:00. > :36:05.the birds. Outside the few months of the breeding season puffins

:36:05. > :36:14.spend all their life on the sea. They rest on the surface of the

:36:14. > :36:24.water like this, not on land. And they're expert divers. Look at that,

:36:24. > :36:34.

:36:34. > :36:41.zipping past, they really do fly Sand eels are what they are diving

:36:41. > :36:45.for. They thrive in the sandy sea bed around Skomer. They're a very

:36:45. > :36:50.oily, nutritious fish and definitely the puffins' favourite

:36:50. > :37:00.food. Happiness is a beak full of sand

:37:00. > :37:01.

:37:01. > :37:04.Isn't that amazing. Now puffins are only small birds. Everyone come

:37:04. > :37:09.together island expects to see a bigger bird. They're not much

:37:09. > :37:13.bigger than a blackbird. They dive five or ten metres, sometimes up to

:37:13. > :37:19.30. They're after sand eels. What is a sand eel? Well, that is a sand

:37:19. > :37:25.eel. Not an eel, but a snake-like fish. That body is to burrow into

:37:25. > :37:31.sand to escape from its predators. There are plenty of sandy bays out

:37:31. > :37:35.here so these eels are abundant. How does a puffin catch a sand eel

:37:35. > :37:40.and then catch even more? This is where I go into Chris Packham geek

:37:40. > :37:45.mode. This is a puffin. That is a puffin's bill. One of the key

:37:45. > :37:50.things is that bill doesn't open on a hinge like a blackbird or robins'

:37:50. > :37:56.bill. It has a special bone, the quad rant bone, which allows the

:37:56. > :38:02.mandibles to open parallel to each other. There are small hooks along

:38:02. > :38:06.the edges of that beak. There are barbs on the tongue and also

:38:06. > :38:11.backward-pointing hooks on the roof of the puffins' bill too. That

:38:11. > :38:16.allows it to dive and catch fish. That bill really is like a Swiss

:38:17. > :38:21.army knife. There's a tool in there for absolutely everything! Now, I'm

:38:21. > :38:26.going to need your help here, fast quiz - what do you think is the

:38:26. > :38:36.maximum number of sand eels ever seen and photographed in a puffins'

:38:36. > :38:37.

:38:37. > :38:41.bill? 20, 25, 30? No, it's actually 61. An incredible 61! We spoil our

:38:41. > :38:49.wildlife cameramen here and Steve has spent the last couple of days

:38:50. > :38:54.taking shots of puffins. Have a look at this: Look at that

:38:54. > :38:57.lovely bird, it looks like it has sand eels and sprats in there.

:38:57. > :39:01.That's quite a catch. It's a big day when the first puffin is seen

:39:01. > :39:06.on the island with a beak full of fish, because that means the first

:39:06. > :39:10.chick has hatched. But even the few days we've been here, we've been

:39:10. > :39:14.seeing more and more adult puffins flying in with fish in their beaks,

:39:14. > :39:24.so by now, probably most of the puffin eggs on the island will have

:39:24. > :39:46.

:39:47. > :39:51.Well done sto Steve, lovely stuff there. Later on, we're going to be

:39:51. > :39:57.looking at how sea birds are faring here on Skomer and in the UK, but

:39:57. > :40:01.now it's back to you. Thank you very much. Absolutely

:40:01. > :40:06.fantastic footage that. You know the thing he was saying about the

:40:06. > :40:11.beak, I'd often wondered why and I didn't know, that's the best thing

:40:11. > :40:15.about hanging around with other good naturalists, you constantly

:40:15. > :40:20.learn new things. I've been out geeked tonight! Someone else we've

:40:20. > :40:24.inspired to want to learn something about nature is an extremely

:40:24. > :40:30.unlikely candidate. It's Phil our cameraman. Wave to everybody. Go on

:40:30. > :40:34.put your hand in front. There he is. He has had his heart stolen by a

:40:34. > :40:40.bird not an unusual occurrence, but this particular bird is one, which

:40:40. > :40:45.one is it? Bobbers. Bobbers, dippers to you and me. One of the

:40:45. > :40:51.things that Phil wants to know about bobbers or dippers is why

:40:51. > :40:56.they bob or dip? Actually one of our viewers has written in.

:40:56. > :41:00.Fascinating stuff. Listen carefully, John chambers says "I have a theory

:41:00. > :41:06.concerning dipping activity. These birds live in what is effectively a

:41:06. > :41:11.white noise environment. The action of dipping may be a mechanism used

:41:11. > :41:15.phase displacement of the white noise, generated by the water, to

:41:15. > :41:19.identify prey or predator." He admits that the mathematics is

:41:19. > :41:22.hairy. But in effect, coherent sounds exhibit different

:41:22. > :41:26.characteristics to white noise, when the sensors, the ears, are

:41:26. > :41:30.moved. Stand by a water fall, he says, shake your head and the sound

:41:30. > :41:35.of the water will take on a different character. Coherent

:41:35. > :41:39.sounds tend to be not so masked by the white noise of the water. So

:41:39. > :41:45.what he's saying is that they're dipping so they can hear better.

:41:45. > :41:48.But John, other birds like owls bob their heads so that they can hear

:41:48. > :41:53.more accurately, where a sound is coming from. I'm thinking that

:41:53. > :41:58.bobbing your head doesn't take much energy, but bobbing your whole body

:41:58. > :42:02.up and down, as I'm finding out, requires a lot more energy. If it

:42:02. > :42:07.was just about sound, why not just the head? Things like sandpipers,

:42:07. > :42:10.they bob, and they don't live in such a noisy environment. No, and

:42:10. > :42:15.wagtails wag, and that's got nothing to do with their ears

:42:15. > :42:18.because it's their tail. I think it's a good theory. Thank you very

:42:18. > :42:23.much indeed. We love theories on this programme. We like them when

:42:23. > :42:28.they say things like "phase displacement and hairy mathematics".

:42:28. > :42:34.Keep those coming in. You are probably desperate to know how our

:42:35. > :42:38.dipper fledglings are doing. I know Phil is. Let's look at the footage

:42:39. > :42:45.that our wildlife cameraman has got over the last day or so. Here they

:42:45. > :42:50.are. There are three fledglings out of this nest. The adults very much

:42:51. > :42:54.in attendance with the beak full of caddisfly. You'll admit, they're

:42:54. > :42:58.absolutely thriving. They're doing extremely well. Lots of food down

:42:58. > :43:01.there. Again an adult coming in. Super picture as well. I have to

:43:01. > :43:06.say rather attractive young dipper there, look at that. Really lovely.

:43:06. > :43:12.This one is showing quite independent ten densies at this

:43:12. > :43:16.tender age. It tends to be more on its own. The adult knows exactly

:43:16. > :43:20.where it is and is looking after it. It is starting to feed a bit for

:43:20. > :43:24.itself. This is interesting. This is amazing. These animals are

:43:24. > :43:29.supremely adapted for an aquatic lifestyle, even as soon as they

:43:29. > :43:34.leave the nest. We've seen them, here's the adult doing what dippers

:43:34. > :43:38.do, turning over stones. This is a youngster, only a few days out of

:43:38. > :43:43.the nest already looking beneath the surface. Can you see sometimes

:43:43. > :43:46.a white flash going across their eye. This is the nictating membrane,

:43:46. > :43:50.it's a tough contact lens that stops sand in the water getting in

:43:50. > :43:53.their eyes. Swimming and bobbing about, fantastic. You know, I

:43:53. > :43:58.learned today when I was reading in my books that if dippers get

:43:58. > :44:03.disturbed when they're in the nest, only seven days old, they're not

:44:03. > :44:08.meant to fledge until 22 days old, they can pop out and already swim

:44:08. > :44:16.and dive beneath the surface at seven days old! That is incredible.

:44:16. > :44:19.As you saw, that river is very rich and full of food. We got some

:44:19. > :44:27.lovely underwater footage of what it is our dipper chicks are looking

:44:27. > :44:31.Well, there's so much food in the woods here, a lot gets washed into

:44:31. > :44:34.the water when it rains, lots of insects so so lots of food for fish.

:44:34. > :44:39.The fish eat them but it's a rich environment and on the surface of

:44:39. > :44:43.the stone there, Kate, is a caddisfly and they form up to 75%

:44:43. > :44:49.of the dippers' diet so they're very important and these streams

:44:49. > :44:52.are packed full of them. In fact, we have some right here. These are

:44:52. > :44:57.live caddisflies although they look like bits of stick and the reason

:44:57. > :45:03.for that is that they build these wonderful sort of cases around them.

:45:03. > :45:07.We have some film of them doing exactly that. It's amazing, cryst,

:45:07. > :45:12.that they pull -- Chris, that they pull together lots of things.

:45:12. > :45:17.use a web, not unlike a spider's web and they steupb it over their -

:45:17. > :45:22.- spin it over their back. This is serving two purposes, it's

:45:22. > :45:27.protecting the soft body of the caddisfly and it's fantastic

:45:27. > :45:32.camouflage and caddis is a name for a strip of cloth and people selling

:45:33. > :45:37.cloth in the middle ages used to wear it over their bodies and

:45:37. > :45:43.that's where the name comes from. Absolutely brilliant. I like that

:45:43. > :45:47.sort of information, it's a bit geeky, which brings us on to this,

:45:47. > :45:51.the Springwatch Geek Award, this is to celebrate the depth of knowledge

:45:51. > :45:54.some naturalists have. It's adorned by Mr Scratchy, the one and only

:45:54. > :45:59.and every year, so far, we have met a number of naturalists who we

:45:59. > :46:05.think are worthy of this award. Now, it's time to meet another who

:46:05. > :46:11.certainly is. In a country park in Wiltshire,

:46:12. > :46:21.there is a man who could have found the answer to a real wildlife

:46:22. > :46:24.

:46:24. > :46:30.The emergency has been centred on the busy honeybe, a truly fantastic

:46:30. > :46:33.insect. Bees are vital to our way of life. They're one of the great

:46:33. > :46:38.pollenators of British plants, including many of our food crops.

:46:39. > :46:43.Yet, since 1992 in the UK the honey bee has been under attack from an

:46:43. > :46:50.alien invader which threatens the honey bee's very existence. The man

:46:50. > :46:55.that may have the answer to this problem is Ron Hustings. Ron has

:46:55. > :46:59.been researching a blight that's been having a terrible impab on

:46:59. > :47:04.British bees, and he has got to know them very well. Well, every

:47:04. > :47:12.good geek needs a shed or a lab and you have a lab here, Ron. Sort of.

:47:12. > :47:17.Very nice. What about the the Mythes then -- mites then?

:47:17. > :47:21.wanted to see the mites, there's a few for you.

:47:21. > :47:29.Oh my goodness me! How many are in here do you think?

:47:29. > :47:33.50,000. 50,000 mites in this small tub and you have put them in there

:47:33. > :47:37.there... They've all been under my microscope. It's difficult to see

:47:37. > :47:41.them, although I am in awe of 50,000 mites in a tub. There's the

:47:41. > :47:45.detail. That's what we are looking at. Wow, look at that. That's an

:47:45. > :47:52.alien, if ever you have seen it. This, presumably, is the point of

:47:52. > :47:57.menace. That's what sucks the blood of the baby bee. It's what we could

:47:57. > :48:03.call a proper infestation. Very much so. It's decimated the honey

:48:03. > :48:09.bee population. Ron's own bees were infected with this mite but his

:48:09. > :48:13.close examinations with to reveal incredible results.

:48:13. > :48:21.Underneath all my hives, Chris, we have a special tray that that

:48:21. > :48:25.collects the debris that falls. I also noticed that there are little

:48:25. > :48:31.vermites on there and I collected them and examined them and found a

:48:31. > :48:38.lot of them were damaged. Damaged? I am sure it was done by the bees

:48:38. > :48:42.grooming them off. They're mutually grooming these off. Monkey fashion.

:48:42. > :48:46.We found another breakthrough and I condition show you it because it's

:48:46. > :48:50.so minute but I have a picture here. Ron, I am fortunate to be shown

:48:50. > :48:53.lots of photographs of natural subjects. I don't normally have to

:48:53. > :49:01.ask which way up it goes. This is not a triumph when it comes to

:49:01. > :49:07.photography, but I am assuming it's fascinating. They are the antennae

:49:07. > :49:11.of larvae bees. They're being ripped off by the bee. They're

:49:11. > :49:15.removing it because it's infected? It's never going to be any good to

:49:15. > :49:19.the colony so they get rid of it now. What we have is a strain of

:49:19. > :49:25.bees, or a group of bees carrying genes which make them cleaner bees?

:49:25. > :49:30.Exactly. They're grooming off the mites and removing the infected

:49:30. > :49:34.larvae before they're useless to the colony? That's correct. Ron's

:49:34. > :49:40.next experiment was to move one of these cleaner Queens to an adjacent

:49:40. > :49:45.hive. This Queen bred cleaner drones and instances of the mite

:49:45. > :49:51.fell dramatically. So Ron had proved that this behaviour was

:49:51. > :49:55.genetic, rather than learned. Amazingly, Ron is now breeding

:49:55. > :50:00.cleaner Queen bees to try and alleviate the whole mite problem.

:50:00. > :50:06.Look at that. That works, doesn't it? What about these hooks either

:50:06. > :50:15.side here? Those are micro manipulators, they allow me to open

:50:15. > :50:22.the Queen gently, carefully, not to damage her, and open ready for

:50:22. > :50:28.inseplation of semen. I would inseminate the semen into that

:50:28. > :50:33.Queen. Eight. I normally give it the seven. Astonishing. Absolutely

:50:33. > :50:36.astonishing, Ron. Of course, what it guarantees is that you can get

:50:36. > :50:40.your grooming gene, which you have collected from the male in the

:50:40. > :50:46.semen, into this Queen? That's right. The theory is that we are

:50:46. > :50:55.going to put as many drones as we can until we have got, as it were,

:50:55. > :50:59.Swindon being a gene pool of hygienic bees. Swindon. Swindon

:51:00. > :51:04.saves the world of bees to the work of Ron. On that account, I am going

:51:04. > :51:11.to present you with an extraordinary prize. It's under the

:51:11. > :51:19.microscope, take a look through here. Seriously. Look at that.

:51:19. > :51:24.It's Mr Scratchy. That's the uber geek.

:51:24. > :51:29.What a fantastic bloke. I have to tell you, when I saw his 50,000

:51:29. > :51:34.mites in that tub, the geek award was his. And the impact that he

:51:34. > :51:40.could have for anyone that keeps bees. I am constantly bat battling,

:51:40. > :51:44.so good on you, please keep working. Drop Drop proof that geeks -- top

:51:44. > :51:49.proof that geeks can change the world. Some questions, one on

:51:49. > :51:53.Twitter: How many chicks can a heron have? That's easy, they can

:51:53. > :51:56.have about four or five is a usual clutch but they will often lose

:51:56. > :52:02.them, so two or three is the usual number to fledge. One last quick

:52:02. > :52:09.one, why do some fledgings have no tail? They wait to grow them until

:52:09. > :52:14.they get out of the nest. Let's head over to Iolo on Skomer.

:52:15. > :52:19.Welcome back. Now, I bet you are sitting at home comfy in your chair,

:52:19. > :52:25.wondering how that dashing chap on Skomer finds his way into your

:52:25. > :52:30.living room? Well, I tell you, Toby the cameraman is filming me, that

:52:30. > :52:35.goes by cable through all this here, it's fired across to a van on the

:52:35. > :52:39.mainland, beamed up to a satellite miles above us, beamed back down to

:52:39. > :52:43.us here and then to your living room. The wonders of modern

:52:43. > :52:46.technology. Now, over the past couple of days we have been

:52:46. > :52:49.following the puffins here on Skomer and they've been carrying

:52:49. > :52:53.fish back to the nest. So it would appear that the population is

:52:53. > :52:57.healthy, but is it? Well, the man to answer that is warden Chris

:52:57. > :53:01.Taylor. Hello, Chris. Puffins on Skomer, how many have you got and

:53:01. > :53:05.are they doing doing well? puffins on Skomer, they've been

:53:05. > :53:09.busy the last couple of years, so 1988 there was about 8,000 puffins

:53:09. > :53:14.on the island, now that population expanded to about 12,500, so it's a

:53:14. > :53:17.good sign they're doing fabulously. We have looked at a host of other

:53:17. > :53:27.birds here as well, how are they doing? I think the real stars of

:53:27. > :53:30.the show are the guillemots, the population is under 0,000. There --

:53:30. > :53:38.20,000. It shows there must be so much food to sustain that

:53:38. > :53:42.population. And manx Sheerwater. Are they doing all right? They seem

:53:42. > :53:48.to be. I am sure as you know, it's a tricky species to monitor and

:53:48. > :53:52.record. But we estimate about 120,000 breeding pairs, so lots

:53:52. > :53:57.that we monitor year on year. thank you very much. That really is

:53:57. > :54:01.wonderful news from Skomer. How about the rest of the UK? I posed

:54:01. > :54:09.that question to Professor Tim Guildford of Oxford University over

:54:09. > :54:15.there in the wardens' library. Fantastic old records here, Tim.

:54:15. > :54:18.It's interesting to look back over the decades, over 100 years almost,

:54:18. > :54:23.of records, particularly of sea birds. Now, from my time here I

:54:23. > :54:28.have learned that on Skomer our sea birds appear to be doing rather

:54:28. > :54:31.well. What's the picture for the rest of the UK? There is clearly a

:54:31. > :54:33.difference between what's happening, appears to be happening in

:54:33. > :54:38.Pembrokeshire and what's happening in the north of Britain. Do we know

:54:38. > :54:44.why? What is the difference to our birds here, go to different areas,

:54:44. > :54:54.more fish in the sea? Down here in Pembrokeshire the sand eel

:54:54. > :54:56.

:54:56. > :54:59.productivity seems to have been good and puffins are enjoying that.

:54:59. > :55:03.Poor breeding success in the puffins, and this is almost

:55:03. > :55:06.certainly because the sand eels and other small fish they depend on are

:55:06. > :55:10.not as available so they're starting to try and eat other

:55:10. > :55:13.things which are not good for bringing up their chicks. It's a

:55:13. > :55:18.complex issue though, because I know here in Pembrokeshire the

:55:18. > :55:21.populations of some of the birds have built up on the back of

:55:22. > :55:25.collapse of the commercial fishing industry, for example. That must

:55:25. > :55:29.affect sea birds throughout the UK, if not throughout the world. That's

:55:29. > :55:33.right. I mean, it would be nice to believe that just because sea bird

:55:33. > :55:36.populations are growing or looking healthy, that this is a sign that

:55:36. > :55:40.the oceans are necessarily healthy, but it's not always like that.

:55:40. > :55:43.Because they may be freed from competition because there's been

:55:43. > :55:47.overfishing of their competitors, the big fish that eat the little

:55:48. > :55:50.fish that they depend on and as the fisheries recover, then the

:55:50. > :55:53.competitors are become and the sea birds start to suffer. So we need

:55:53. > :55:58.to be very careful in our interpretation of what's happening.

:55:58. > :56:03.How about the future then? If you were able to look ahead 20, 30, 40

:56:03. > :56:08.years, do you see a flourishing population of sea birds in the UK

:56:08. > :56:13.and here on Skomer? I really hope so. I think they're so important,

:56:13. > :56:16.but, I think we will see changes. Some of those will be positive,

:56:16. > :56:21.probably, but some will be negative. One thing that I think that we can

:56:21. > :56:25.be fairly sure of is that the climate is slowly changing, and

:56:25. > :56:28.that this will lead to changes in marine resources and this will

:56:28. > :56:31.inevitably lead to changes in sea bird populations. I don't think

:56:31. > :56:41.it's all doom and gloom but we certainly need to understand what's

:56:41. > :56:44.going to happen. It's a very difficult issue, but

:56:44. > :56:48.there ar couple of things we can all do. We need to be careful where

:56:48. > :56:54.we buy our fish from. Is it coming from a sustainable well managed

:56:54. > :56:56.source? Also, don't throw plastics into the sea, that affects not just

:56:56. > :57:00.fish but other wildlife too. If you want more information on this

:57:00. > :57:06.complex issue then please go to our website.

:57:06. > :57:11.Well, that's it from here, for now, I am going to hand you back. But I

:57:11. > :57:13.will still be here for UnSprung. See you then.

:57:14. > :57:18.Thank you very much. Now, if you were watching at the

:57:18. > :57:25.top of the programme we set you a challenge. We were struggling to

:57:25. > :57:28.identify this sound: It had upset our baby barn owls.

:57:28. > :57:33.Has anyone come up with any suggestions? Very exciting, they're

:57:33. > :57:40.coming in all the time. Someone thinks it's a magpie. Another

:57:40. > :57:44.thought it was a deathwatch beetle. John, my wife trying to start her

:57:44. > :57:49.Mini! We asked our expert sound recordist here, he thinks that it's

:57:49. > :57:54.actually being made by those young owls, so we have set them a

:57:54. > :57:59.challenge. We put a microphone and camera all around the barn owl nest

:57:59. > :58:06.and hopefully overnight we might find out what is going on. But you

:58:06. > :58:14.can keep watching on our webcams by going to our website.

:58:14. > :58:24.Tomorrow, Christopher? We asked you a question, is it Steve McQueen and

:58:24. > :58:24.