0:00:01 > 0:00:05Here's Souness. Oh, he's given him a chance! Right in the net!
0:00:05 > 0:00:0930 years ago, football was central to Scottish society.
0:00:09 > 0:00:10Oh, what a goal by Strachan!
0:00:10 > 0:00:14The stars of the game were national icons.
0:00:14 > 0:00:17Even when you're a wee kid, every kid in Scotland in those days,
0:00:17 > 0:00:20when you're looking at the Scotland team,
0:00:20 > 0:00:22every player was a hero to them all.
0:00:22 > 0:00:24Good play by Gemmill, and again.
0:00:25 > 0:00:27It's in! 3-1!
0:00:27 > 0:00:30Scotland players were world-class
0:00:30 > 0:00:34and regularly competed at international tournaments.
0:00:34 > 0:00:38Arenas in which Scotland would loudly express its national pride.
0:00:38 > 0:00:42They may have been confident in their place on the international
0:00:42 > 0:00:45football stage but Scotland, as a nation, was struggling.
0:00:49 > 0:00:51She had lost her industrial identity in the '80s
0:00:51 > 0:00:54and had limited influence in the union.
0:00:56 > 0:01:00It wouldn't be until the '90s that her political voice would grow louder.
0:01:03 > 0:01:06Scotland qualified for five World Cups in a row,
0:01:06 > 0:01:10as well as the European Championships in '92 and '96.
0:01:10 > 0:01:13The team was able to rub shoulders with the world's elite.
0:01:13 > 0:01:15And he's scored for Scotland!
0:01:15 > 0:01:19It was an honour to represent the country.
0:01:19 > 0:01:21If you don't want to play for your country,
0:01:21 > 0:01:23then there's something wrong with you.
0:01:23 > 0:01:25The shot goes in and Scotland have scored!
0:01:26 > 0:01:29There's two sides of it, there's the responsibility,
0:01:29 > 0:01:32if you don't perform, you get abuse and you get stick but at
0:01:32 > 0:01:35the same time, when you know you're the best player in the country
0:01:35 > 0:01:39in your position, then it's a nice feeling.
0:01:39 > 0:01:40McAllister to McCoist.
0:01:40 > 0:01:42It's a goal for Scotland!
0:01:43 > 0:01:46There is a mood, a very positive mood for change,
0:01:46 > 0:01:49and I think football is being affected by that.
0:01:49 > 0:01:52That doesn't mean to say we'll be more disgruntled if we
0:01:52 > 0:01:54don't win tournaments but I think it's important to say look,
0:01:54 > 0:01:56if Scotland's on the march,
0:01:56 > 0:02:00Scotland's in a different mood, then why shouldn't football reflect that?
0:02:00 > 0:02:02The world as a whole was speeding up,
0:02:02 > 0:02:05becoming more fractured and transient.
0:02:06 > 0:02:10Football was rapidly becoming a money-fuelled, global industry.
0:02:12 > 0:02:15And Scottish football was going to have to work hard to keep up.
0:02:29 > 0:02:32France, 1998.
0:02:32 > 0:02:35The opening game of the World Cup.
0:02:35 > 0:02:381.7 billion viewers.
0:02:39 > 0:02:41Taking centre stage -
0:02:41 > 0:02:44Scotland and Brazil.
0:02:44 > 0:02:48I grew up in a generation that believed that Brazilian football
0:02:48 > 0:02:50was the greatest football in the world,
0:02:50 > 0:02:52it was the romantic,
0:02:52 > 0:02:55this was the nation that had produced Garrincha and Pele and Didi
0:02:55 > 0:02:56and Vava
0:02:56 > 0:02:59and all of these great players when I was a kid growing up.
0:02:59 > 0:03:03And the idea that the World Cup would be opened by the two greatest
0:03:03 > 0:03:07football nations in the world - Brazil and the other one,
0:03:07 > 0:03:13the one thing that they share is a slightly kind of mad romance
0:03:13 > 0:03:15about football, that there's something special,
0:03:15 > 0:03:19an elixir about football that is almost kind of alcoholic.
0:03:20 > 0:03:22I was wanting to start, I think everybody was,
0:03:22 > 0:03:24being the opening game of the World Cup.
0:03:27 > 0:03:31And the Brazilian team's standing there, a million dollars,
0:03:31 > 0:03:33chewing gum, holding hands right the way up there.
0:03:36 > 0:03:38Nobody gave us an earthly against them,
0:03:38 > 0:03:40because you look at the Brazilian team that day.
0:03:41 > 0:03:44We had a good side, I think we were underestimated, Scotland,
0:03:44 > 0:03:46a really good side.
0:03:46 > 0:03:48COMMENTATOR: The waiting is almost over.
0:03:50 > 0:03:54The biggest match that these Scotland players will ever play in.
0:03:55 > 0:03:57The Brazil game was a brilliant game to play in.
0:03:57 > 0:04:02COMMENTATOR: Winning his 87th cap, and defending this corner kick.
0:04:02 > 0:04:04And Scotland are one down.
0:04:06 > 0:04:10They scored after eight minutes, and you think, "Here we go.
0:04:10 > 0:04:11"Might not get a kick here."
0:04:11 > 0:04:14But then we started slowly but surely coming into the game.
0:04:14 > 0:04:17COMMENTATOR: And Scotland with the opportunity
0:04:17 > 0:04:19to equalise against the world champions.
0:04:22 > 0:04:25And Collins equalises for Scotland!
0:04:25 > 0:04:27It's 1-1.
0:04:27 > 0:04:30It wasn't until after the game that I was sitting on the bus thinking,
0:04:30 > 0:04:33if I had missed it, then I was thinking, oh,
0:04:33 > 0:04:36wow, I would've been known as the guy that missed a penalty
0:04:36 > 0:04:40that let the whole stadium down, the whole country back home.
0:04:40 > 0:04:43COMMENTATOR: The run made by Cafu. Here is Cafu!
0:04:43 > 0:04:46Saved by Jim Leighton and it's an own goal!
0:04:48 > 0:04:51I thought we were excellent that day. It was a great occasion.
0:04:54 > 0:04:57COMMENTATOR: Spectacular effort from Paul Lambert,
0:04:57 > 0:05:00and that is the last action of the match.
0:05:00 > 0:05:03Scotland have been beaten by Brazil.
0:05:04 > 0:05:06Scotland may not have won,
0:05:06 > 0:05:10but they now had a stronger belief in their abilities.
0:05:10 > 0:05:13That belief carried them into their next match, against Norway,
0:05:13 > 0:05:16which ended in a draw.
0:05:16 > 0:05:19It was all to play for against outsiders Morocco.
0:05:22 > 0:05:24Weir trying to get back.
0:05:24 > 0:05:26Touch off Jim Leighton, and it's number two.
0:05:29 > 0:05:32In the end, we were heavily beaten, and I think beaten on the night
0:05:32 > 0:05:34by a much better team.
0:05:34 > 0:05:37Basir, good skill.
0:05:37 > 0:05:39Still Basir.
0:05:39 > 0:05:41That's number three.
0:05:41 > 0:05:42And maybe the lesson,
0:05:42 > 0:05:45the consistent lesson across all of these World Cups,
0:05:45 > 0:05:48and all of these major tournaments in Europe is the same thing.
0:05:48 > 0:05:52That Scotland overestimate how good they are and profoundly
0:05:52 > 0:05:56underestimate and sometimes even patronise other nations.
0:05:57 > 0:06:00That's full-time in Saint Etienne.
0:06:00 > 0:06:04And Scotland are out of the World Cup.
0:06:04 > 0:06:06It's not such a disgrace, I feel,
0:06:06 > 0:06:07to fail when you're in the finals,
0:06:07 > 0:06:10you're in a higher level of competition.
0:06:11 > 0:06:14Morocco had kicked Scotland out.
0:06:14 > 0:06:17This was the last game Scotland would play at either
0:06:17 > 0:06:20a World Cup or European Championship.
0:06:20 > 0:06:22Our last appearance on the world stage.
0:06:22 > 0:06:24And that's what we all miss.
0:06:24 > 0:06:26Not so much just being in the competitions
0:06:26 > 0:06:28but having the Scottish fans there,
0:06:28 > 0:06:32something to shout about and the others...
0:06:32 > 0:06:36I think it's been missing for a long time.
0:06:36 > 0:06:40These tournaments had given fans the chance to proclaim their
0:06:40 > 0:06:43national identity to the world.
0:06:43 > 0:06:46They played the bagpipes, they wore kilts,
0:06:46 > 0:06:49and they prided themselves on being good guests.
0:06:49 > 0:06:51This was their calling card
0:06:51 > 0:06:55and by France 98, the Scotland fans were so practised at it,
0:06:55 > 0:06:58they effectively policed themselves.
0:06:59 > 0:07:03I'm at the front of this bus, at the front of this huge procession
0:07:03 > 0:07:06of tens of thousands of Scotland fans and quite a few Moroccans
0:07:06 > 0:07:07joining in as well -
0:07:07 > 0:07:11we came across, I think, a Peugeot car
0:07:11 > 0:07:14which was blocking the procession and the double-decker bus.
0:07:16 > 0:07:19And what happened is some guy has got off the bus,
0:07:19 > 0:07:23he carefully lifted the Peugeot onto the pavement,
0:07:23 > 0:07:28the double-decker went past, and my memory is, looking back,
0:07:28 > 0:07:31and the same fans had shifted the Peugeot back
0:07:31 > 0:07:34to exactly the same spot.
0:07:34 > 0:07:39Now that to me encapsulated fans who were just incredibly anxious
0:07:39 > 0:07:45to be good Scots, but also good world citizens.
0:07:45 > 0:07:48One explanation for this impeccable behaviour might have been
0:07:48 > 0:07:51a desire to differentiate ourselves from England,
0:07:51 > 0:07:54our occasionally badly-behaved neighbours,
0:07:54 > 0:07:57with whom Scotland were sometimes confused.
0:08:06 > 0:08:09It was an important time for Scotland to be seen in
0:08:09 > 0:08:13a positive light, as the next year would see the opening of the
0:08:13 > 0:08:15new Scottish Parliament.
0:08:15 > 0:08:18A government would be formed in Edinburgh for the first time
0:08:18 > 0:08:21in almost 300 years.
0:08:21 > 0:08:24Scotland's international profile was growing.
0:08:28 > 0:08:3230 years ago, Scotland the nation was a very different place.
0:08:32 > 0:08:37Mired in the depths of an economic depression,
0:08:37 > 0:08:40and without a voice in the international corridors of power.
0:08:42 > 0:08:46Yet the national football team was world-renowned.
0:08:46 > 0:08:49In charge of that team was Jock Stein.
0:08:49 > 0:08:53Considered the greatest manager of his generation and an icon of
0:08:53 > 0:08:54the game in Scotland.
0:08:55 > 0:08:59What I find fascinating about Stein and indeed the era that
0:08:59 > 0:09:02he was part of was that Scotland was a very different place,
0:09:02 > 0:09:04it was a hugely industrial place,
0:09:04 > 0:09:08most footballers were working class, and the vast majority of those
0:09:08 > 0:09:12players had either been in apprentices or trained or been part
0:09:12 > 0:09:15of the industrial process - in the case of Jock Stein, in the mines.
0:09:19 > 0:09:23He was someone whose values, think, were shaped by industrialism.
0:09:26 > 0:09:30And also by common effort, by what working class people
0:09:30 > 0:09:33now would consider to be labourism or socialism or whatever,
0:09:33 > 0:09:36So I think there was a degree of two things going on there,
0:09:36 > 0:09:40one of which was the capacity to organise teams of people,
0:09:40 > 0:09:43that sense of the social, but also a strict understanding that
0:09:43 > 0:09:47discipline, hierarchy and order were to be respected.
0:09:47 > 0:09:52He was a presence, he came in the room and everybody fell silent.
0:09:52 > 0:09:57It wasn't that we were afraid of Jock, he wasn't aggressive,
0:09:57 > 0:10:00but he just had a manner and a way about him
0:10:00 > 0:10:04that everybody stood up and listened.
0:10:05 > 0:10:08He was hard on me, he was hard on all the senior players
0:10:08 > 0:10:09but I think I got on well with him.
0:10:09 > 0:10:13I enjoyed his way of managing, I responded to his style.
0:10:13 > 0:10:16He was hard, and I think he picked on the bigger players,
0:10:16 > 0:10:19the more experienced players, to make a point to the younger ones.
0:10:19 > 0:10:23I was on the end of a couple of absolute rollickings from him.
0:10:25 > 0:10:30Jock Stein's coaching style was born in the tough mining communities of his youth.
0:10:30 > 0:10:32But now that era was coming to an end.
0:10:34 > 0:10:41In the early 1980s, policies implemented by the newly-elected Conservative government
0:10:41 > 0:10:43ravaged Scotland's industrial heartland.
0:10:45 > 0:10:48The first two years of Margaret Thatcher's reign saw
0:10:48 > 0:10:52one-fifth of the Scottish workforce lose their jobs.
0:10:52 > 0:10:56The old Victorian economy which had literally lived on until
0:10:56 > 0:11:00the late '70s, virtually disappeared.
0:11:00 > 0:11:04Mining, heavy manufacturing, shipbuilding, etc.
0:11:08 > 0:11:11Partly fuelled by a huge hike in oil prices and also
0:11:11 > 0:11:14in the Thatcherite government's determination
0:11:14 > 0:11:18to extract inflation from the economy at almost any price.
0:11:23 > 0:11:24When the interest rates go up,
0:11:24 > 0:11:27whole sectors of Scottish industry disappeared.
0:11:27 > 0:11:33So the national mood is a combination of humiliation,
0:11:33 > 0:11:35bitterness,
0:11:35 > 0:11:38worry, deep anxiety,
0:11:38 > 0:11:41insecurity...
0:11:41 > 0:11:44perhaps above all, anger.
0:12:04 > 0:12:07Scotland could vote one way but was consistently overruled
0:12:07 > 0:12:12by its larger neighbour, leading to a feeling of powerlessness.
0:12:12 > 0:12:16An academic from the 1980s paints a bleak picture.
0:12:16 > 0:12:20Scotland is a poor country, that's the main thing to bear in mind.
0:12:20 > 0:12:22It's not just poor in the financial sense,
0:12:22 > 0:12:25it's not just poor that people are unemployed - that of course is true.
0:12:25 > 0:12:27But it's poor in the sense that there is
0:12:27 > 0:12:29no focus for Scottish public life.
0:12:29 > 0:12:35There's no genuine public focus, no arena for Scotland to assert itself,
0:12:35 > 0:12:38and for the Scottish identity to be seen.
0:12:38 > 0:12:41And by the way, no place for people to take responsibility for
0:12:41 > 0:12:45their own actions, so you're forever blaming failures upon the English,
0:12:45 > 0:12:47because they're the guys in charge,
0:12:47 > 0:12:51and I think this gets displaced into football to a very real extent.
0:12:52 > 0:12:56In 1985, the big challenge for the Scotland team was to qualify
0:12:56 > 0:12:59for the World Cup being held the next year in Mexico.
0:13:01 > 0:13:05Scotland had to at least draw with Wales in Cardiff
0:13:05 > 0:13:07to make it through to a play-off tie with Australia.
0:13:09 > 0:13:14Jock Stein's mantra that football is nothing without the fans was evident before the match.
0:13:14 > 0:13:17There's an awful lot of people coming to see us and they're
0:13:17 > 0:13:20paying an awful lot of money and travelling a long distance -
0:13:20 > 0:13:23let's try and give them a result and that's important.
0:13:23 > 0:13:26COMMENTATOR: Wales get us underway.
0:13:26 > 0:13:30Jock Stein, tough old moments, these, for Jock.
0:13:32 > 0:13:36All day, he looked drawn, he looked grey, but that's the stress of
0:13:36 > 0:13:40football for you - in saying that, you know, he'd been through all
0:13:40 > 0:13:44these big games before. As you get older, it becomes harder.
0:13:44 > 0:13:46COMMENTATOR: With ten minutes to go,
0:13:46 > 0:13:48to send Scotland to the play-offs for Mexico.
0:13:51 > 0:13:53Cooper has made it!
0:13:53 > 0:13:55The most vital kick of his career.
0:13:55 > 0:13:58And Davie Cooper equalises for Scotland.
0:14:04 > 0:14:07We saw Jock in the dugout,
0:14:07 > 0:14:10there was a wee bit of a something happened,
0:14:10 > 0:14:13and it caught people's attention.
0:14:13 > 0:14:16But you know you're thinking, we don't know what's happened there,
0:14:16 > 0:14:20but just let's just get on with this game!
0:14:20 > 0:14:22COMMENTATOR: Header across goal, there goes the final whistle!
0:14:23 > 0:14:26Scotland have got the result they wanted so badly.
0:14:29 > 0:14:31Wales 1, Scotland 1.
0:14:34 > 0:14:37Jock Stein being carried inside -
0:14:37 > 0:14:39he's being carried in,
0:14:39 > 0:14:41the Scottish doctor looking on anxiously...
0:14:43 > 0:14:47While Jock fought for his life, the players celebrated the result,
0:14:47 > 0:14:49unaware of what was happening.
0:14:50 > 0:14:56Everybody was ecstatic and then Alex Ferguson walked in the room,
0:14:56 > 0:14:59and said a couple of words.
0:14:59 > 0:15:03And it was, erm, "Jock's dead".
0:15:03 > 0:15:06And the room just went silent.
0:15:13 > 0:15:16His death being so sudden and awfully dramatic,
0:15:16 > 0:15:20it was just a shock to everybody in the game,
0:15:20 > 0:15:23supporters were just absolutely shocked.
0:15:23 > 0:15:26Alan Rough talks about going in the bus from the stadium and
0:15:26 > 0:15:31watching the people at the side of the road in various stages of grief.
0:15:39 > 0:15:42He was the guru of that time -
0:15:42 > 0:15:46when you've someone of that stature, someone of that presence,
0:15:46 > 0:15:49of that influence, I mean, it was incredible,
0:15:49 > 0:15:52the loss to Scottish football, of course.
0:16:00 > 0:16:04After Jock Stein's death, the Scotland team would be led by
0:16:04 > 0:16:08interim manager and Stein's assistant, Alex Ferguson.
0:16:08 > 0:16:12Ferguson, like Stein, was a product of Scotland's heavy industry.
0:16:12 > 0:16:16Jesus Christ, this Icelandic air has gone for your brain!
0:16:16 > 0:16:19Ferguson had been a shipyard worker, he had been an apprentice boy
0:16:19 > 0:16:20in the yards in Govan,
0:16:20 > 0:16:24had actually led maybe two apprentice strikes
0:16:24 > 0:16:26by the time he was sort of 16, 17 year old,
0:16:26 > 0:16:30and when he came to St Johnstone, his first professional club,
0:16:30 > 0:16:35I think he was only 17 or 18 and was already a seasoned trade unionist
0:16:35 > 0:16:38and actually became the PFA representative at St Johnstone
0:16:38 > 0:16:40and, you know, he was still in his teens.
0:16:40 > 0:16:43I mean, that's almost unthinkable now in modern football,
0:16:43 > 0:16:48so here was a guy who again had a very, very deep connection to
0:16:48 > 0:16:51the industrial working class and to the place that he grew up.
0:16:51 > 0:16:55Alex Ferguson, trusted by the team,
0:16:55 > 0:17:00provided continuity as they headed to the Mexico World Cup in 1986.
0:17:00 > 0:17:05NEWSREEL: The Scotland team finally arrived a day after the opening ceremony,
0:17:05 > 0:17:08saying high altitude training in America was more important.
0:17:08 > 0:17:11We went to Santa Fe for our altitude training
0:17:11 > 0:17:14which later on everybody told us was a waste of time
0:17:14 > 0:17:15because we didn't go long enough.
0:17:15 > 0:17:19We only went for ten days and then we went back to sea level,
0:17:19 > 0:17:20apparently it wasn't any good.
0:17:20 > 0:17:24# We're the famous Tartan Army and we're off to Mexico. #
0:17:24 > 0:17:28NEWSREEL: Bemused Mexican police had never seen anything like it before.
0:17:28 > 0:17:31# We love you Scotland we do... #
0:17:31 > 0:17:35The hotel was a bit iffy to say the least,
0:17:35 > 0:17:40stuck out in the sticks, could barely get a phone call home.
0:17:40 > 0:17:44All we done was drink coffee and watch videos.
0:17:44 > 0:17:49I had a television, that's my lot, but it was Spanish telly,
0:17:49 > 0:17:52Spanish-speaking television, Mexican.
0:17:52 > 0:17:57And I didn't have a head board to my bed and inside it was harling,
0:17:57 > 0:17:59you know, the harling outside, I couldn't even sit against that,
0:17:59 > 0:18:02so it was really the most boring place I've ever been to.
0:18:05 > 0:18:08The three teams we played were in the top ten
0:18:08 > 0:18:11in the world rankings at the time.
0:18:11 > 0:18:14Uruguay, Germany - West Germany - and Denmark.
0:18:14 > 0:18:18Denmark had come on so it was a hard, hard job.
0:18:18 > 0:18:21Their second game was against West Germany.
0:18:22 > 0:18:25COMMENTATOR: And off go a team that has established itself as one of
0:18:25 > 0:18:27the favourites to lift this trophy.
0:18:29 > 0:18:33And there's Alex Ferguson, not looking too perturbed.
0:18:33 > 0:18:36Petrified of him, petrified of letting your team mates down,
0:18:36 > 0:18:38petrified of the other team scoring a goal.
0:18:38 > 0:18:40There's nothing wrong with that.
0:18:40 > 0:18:42COMMENTATOR: On to Strachan -
0:18:42 > 0:18:44what a great goal!
0:18:44 > 0:18:47Oh, what a goal by Strachan!
0:18:51 > 0:18:54Didn't have a lot of tactics in those days.
0:18:54 > 0:18:55It used to be just the usual,
0:18:55 > 0:18:58everybody played 4-4-2 and we got on with it.
0:18:58 > 0:19:00And whoever you were playing against,
0:19:00 > 0:19:04if we had seven individuals better than theirs, then usually we won.
0:19:06 > 0:19:07And the final whistle has gone.
0:19:07 > 0:19:09But that goal was in vain,
0:19:09 > 0:19:12as Scotland lost the game to the Germans.
0:19:14 > 0:19:16It's another disappointing result.
0:19:16 > 0:19:19Scotland had to win their final game against Uruguay
0:19:19 > 0:19:21to progress to the next round.
0:19:23 > 0:19:24Well, we get this all the time.
0:19:26 > 0:19:29But they found themselves up against violent opposition.
0:19:29 > 0:19:33COMMENTATOR: Oh, dear, Oh, dear, Oh, dear, that's dreadful.
0:19:33 > 0:19:36Well, they are simply late and then they throw their arms up as
0:19:36 > 0:19:38if they were choir boys,
0:19:38 > 0:19:41which as you can see from that expression, they're not.
0:19:42 > 0:19:46Well, the final whistle has gone. Uruguay have done it.
0:19:46 > 0:19:51In all honesty, they simply didn't have the ability to beat this team.
0:19:52 > 0:19:55And, once again, Scotland for the fourth time in succession,
0:19:55 > 0:19:57have failed at the final hurdle.
0:19:59 > 0:20:01We didn't take part in a game of football, today.
0:20:01 > 0:20:02We were cheated out of it.
0:20:02 > 0:20:06One could only describe that as the scum of world football.
0:20:06 > 0:20:10Mexico, in 86, was the beginning of the end of a dream.
0:20:11 > 0:20:14You see some of the players that are in that squad -
0:20:14 > 0:20:16players that couldn't even get into the squad -
0:20:16 > 0:20:18and you look at them now, and you think it was one of the
0:20:18 > 0:20:21finest generations ever of Scottish football.
0:20:23 > 0:20:26It may have been a great era for Scottish football,
0:20:26 > 0:20:30but Alex Ferguson's future lay elsewhere.
0:20:30 > 0:20:32He had the same industrial heritage as Jock Stein,
0:20:32 > 0:20:35but he was earlier on in his career
0:20:35 > 0:20:38and could see that the best opportunities lay in England.
0:20:38 > 0:20:40How are you looking forward to your first game at United?
0:20:40 > 0:20:43Oh, I'm excited about it, I must say that. I'm looking forward to it.
0:20:43 > 0:20:47Alex Ferguson will probably go down
0:20:47 > 0:20:51in the history of Scottish sport, and Scottish society,
0:20:51 > 0:20:54as being one of the great achievers.
0:20:54 > 0:20:58Just think of it - it's quite remarkable that someone could go
0:20:58 > 0:21:02from being a 16-year-old shipyard engineer apprentice,
0:21:02 > 0:21:05and go all the way up to now being
0:21:05 > 0:21:09on Harvard Business School's, leadership programme,
0:21:09 > 0:21:12a required reading of students all over the world and whatever,
0:21:12 > 0:21:14around his leadership skills.
0:21:14 > 0:21:17That is an amazing trajectory in anybody's life,
0:21:17 > 0:21:19no matter where they come from.
0:21:22 > 0:21:24And for that to be a young, working class man from Scotland
0:21:24 > 0:21:26who's achieved that -
0:21:26 > 0:21:27that is something special.
0:21:30 > 0:21:33Jock Stein knew that football was undergoing radical changes,
0:21:33 > 0:21:36and had earmarked someone from outwith the traditional circles
0:21:36 > 0:21:37as his successor.
0:21:41 > 0:21:44I was in a car with Jock and we were going down to this coaching course.
0:21:44 > 0:21:49And Jock's sitting in the back-seat, and he turned round to me and he said, "Are you ambitious?"
0:21:49 > 0:21:53And, of course, when you come away with a line like that, obviously there's something behind this.
0:21:53 > 0:21:54And I said, "What do you mean?"
0:21:54 > 0:21:57I said, "Of course I'm ambitious. I'm ambitious for Scottish football. I want..."
0:21:57 > 0:21:59"No, no, no... But, personally. You know?
0:21:59 > 0:22:02"Would you like to, you know, do another job?"
0:22:02 > 0:22:03I said, "Like what?"
0:22:03 > 0:22:05And he said, "What about mine?"
0:22:05 > 0:22:08The Scottish Football Association have made a man who's never
0:22:08 > 0:22:11managed a football club their new international manager.
0:22:11 > 0:22:13Well, I think, like anyone else who takes this job,
0:22:13 > 0:22:15you'll give it body and soul,
0:22:15 > 0:22:19because you know what the national team means to people.
0:22:19 > 0:22:21Andy, of course, had played for Partick Thistle,
0:22:21 > 0:22:25but he wasn't regarded as a football manager
0:22:25 > 0:22:27in the way of Shankly and Stein,
0:22:27 > 0:22:29Ferguson, even, at Ferguson's age.
0:22:29 > 0:22:31Well, what you've got to remember, back in those days,
0:22:31 > 0:22:35it was really strange for a non-football type
0:22:35 > 0:22:37to get such a big job.
0:22:37 > 0:22:39Roxburgh has been a teacher.
0:22:39 > 0:22:42He had coached youth teams at international level.
0:22:42 > 0:22:45This was not the usual route for a Scotland manager,
0:22:45 > 0:22:47and his appointment was greeted with disdain
0:22:47 > 0:22:50by Scotland's ultra-traditionalist press.
0:22:50 > 0:22:53In some respects, that actually caused quite a, kind of...
0:22:53 > 0:22:55fury within football,
0:22:55 > 0:22:58which fascinates me beyond belief.
0:22:58 > 0:23:00You get people that seem to...
0:23:01 > 0:23:03..hate education.
0:23:03 > 0:23:06They have a kind of anti-intellectual attitude towards things.
0:23:06 > 0:23:09And there was still a lot of people, journalists particularly,
0:23:09 > 0:23:14who still yearned for the idea that we were an industrial nation.
0:23:14 > 0:23:17The media liked their football managers cast in a certain mould.
0:23:19 > 0:23:22Andy Roxburgh certainly didn't fit it.
0:23:22 > 0:23:27Historically, if you were a teacher, you weren't a hard pro footballer.
0:23:27 > 0:23:30Your brains were all in your head instead of in your feet, you know?
0:23:30 > 0:23:34That kind of...feeling pervaded the game, I think.
0:23:34 > 0:23:36But I don't know how many European Championships there have been -
0:23:36 > 0:23:39I think 16, maybe 17.
0:23:39 > 0:23:41And Scotland have only qualified twice
0:23:41 > 0:23:42for a European championship.
0:23:42 > 0:23:45And it was two schoolteachers that qualified Scotland -
0:23:45 > 0:23:46Andy Roxburgh and myself.
0:23:48 > 0:23:51They took techniques gleaned from the classroom,
0:23:51 > 0:23:55and provided new insights into the opposition for the players.
0:23:55 > 0:23:57We did overhead transparencies and things -
0:23:57 > 0:24:00we showed the key players in the opposition,
0:24:00 > 0:24:02we showed the shape of the opposing team,
0:24:02 > 0:24:04any attributes that players had,
0:24:04 > 0:24:06how they took free kicks, corners, throw-ins -
0:24:06 > 0:24:07we did all that.
0:24:07 > 0:24:09I mean, that was great preparation.
0:24:09 > 0:24:13We never played a game where our team didn't know
0:24:13 > 0:24:16everything about the opposition.
0:24:16 > 0:24:18These techniques proved successful.
0:24:18 > 0:24:22Roxburgh led Scotland to the Italia 90 World Cup.
0:24:22 > 0:24:24But this approach could only pay off
0:24:24 > 0:24:26if the homework could be done properly.
0:24:26 > 0:24:27Their first opponents -
0:24:27 > 0:24:28Costa Rica.
0:24:29 > 0:24:32We didn't have every last detail about Costa Rica.
0:24:32 > 0:24:36They had almost been training for about five or six months,
0:24:36 > 0:24:38and everything hidden.
0:24:38 > 0:24:42And so it was very difficult for us to know, at the time,
0:24:42 > 0:24:44exactly what we were going to face.
0:24:49 > 0:24:50We make one error -
0:24:50 > 0:24:52a defensive error.
0:24:52 > 0:24:54You lose the one goal
0:24:54 > 0:24:57and, of course, everybody's going shock, surprise...
0:24:57 > 0:25:00And there goes the final whistle.
0:25:00 > 0:25:02Costa Rica have beaten Scotland.
0:25:04 > 0:25:08And I'm afraid we've lived up, once again, to the reputation that
0:25:08 > 0:25:13playing against nations who seemingly, at the outset,
0:25:13 > 0:25:14we ought to beat,
0:25:14 > 0:25:16we come a cropper.
0:25:26 > 0:25:28I don't know why we're surprised about it at all,
0:25:28 > 0:25:29cos it happens so often.
0:25:29 > 0:25:32That week after that defeat,
0:25:32 > 0:25:34looking back,
0:25:34 > 0:25:37was probably the most interesting week I've ever spent
0:25:37 > 0:25:39in football management.
0:25:44 > 0:25:47This was the real reality
0:25:47 > 0:25:49of football, at that level.
0:25:49 > 0:25:51You've lost a game
0:25:51 > 0:25:53where the expectations were that you should win it.
0:25:55 > 0:25:57And you've to play the next weekend.
0:25:57 > 0:26:02You've to play against a team that had only lost one game in two years.
0:26:04 > 0:26:06How you deal with that?
0:26:06 > 0:26:09And the newspaper front page has got I should get the sack.
0:26:12 > 0:26:14And what happened there was, we simply...
0:26:14 > 0:26:17It's crisis management time, right?
0:26:18 > 0:26:21We literally had to close ranks.
0:26:22 > 0:26:26The press now covered sport in a much more aggressive manner.
0:26:26 > 0:26:30Football regularly made front-page headlines,
0:26:30 > 0:26:32and the attacks were more personal than before them.
0:26:37 > 0:26:40When I first started Scottish football,
0:26:40 > 0:26:43there was still competition, there was still...
0:26:43 > 0:26:47a keenness to break stories, and to break the news, obviously.
0:26:47 > 0:26:51But there was still a sense that you were on the same team.
0:26:51 > 0:26:54Quite often, journalists and players,
0:26:54 > 0:26:57they wouldn't have been on that big a difference in wage.
0:26:57 > 0:27:00They'd have probably, you know, drank in the same places,
0:27:00 > 0:27:02been in the same social circles, etc.
0:27:02 > 0:27:05Does it perhaps mean you've got a different relationship?
0:27:05 > 0:27:07Was that relationship always very healthy before, if you were,
0:27:07 > 0:27:09actually, you know,
0:27:09 > 0:27:13operating in the same social circles as players?
0:27:13 > 0:27:15Probably, at times, that compromised you a bit as a journalist.
0:27:15 > 0:27:17So it's a different environment.
0:27:17 > 0:27:21Going back to my time, we all had pals.
0:27:21 > 0:27:23You'd go and have a beer with them...
0:27:23 > 0:27:24with the journalists. That doesn't happen today.
0:27:24 > 0:27:26It's a different world today.
0:27:26 > 0:27:30You know, the players today are closeted and protected.
0:27:30 > 0:27:34And the press get them for such a short period of time.
0:27:34 > 0:27:37And they're guarded in what they say. There's no...
0:27:37 > 0:27:39As I understand it, there's no friendships any more
0:27:39 > 0:27:43between the written journalist and big-name footballers.
0:27:43 > 0:27:46It's not something that they try and create for themselves.
0:27:46 > 0:27:47They're not interested.
0:27:51 > 0:27:53The point is you're still in the World Cup.
0:27:53 > 0:27:55Now, you've to then...you've to face Sweden,
0:27:55 > 0:27:59a team that had - again, I repeated - only lost one game in two years.
0:27:59 > 0:28:02So people kept asking me, "Oh, what about your job?"
0:28:02 > 0:28:04and things like that. "You're going to be out of a job."
0:28:04 > 0:28:06And of course my reaction to that was, "At this moment in time,
0:28:06 > 0:28:07"I'm irrelevant."
0:28:07 > 0:28:09We were so focused, right?
0:28:09 > 0:28:11We just literally obliterated everything that was
0:28:11 > 0:28:14going on round about us.
0:28:14 > 0:28:16Scotland needed to win their game against Sweden
0:28:16 > 0:28:19to have a chance of progressing to the next round.
0:28:19 > 0:28:24Roxburgh, pilloried by the press, decided to bypass them.
0:28:24 > 0:28:26What people forget is that the staff and the players and
0:28:26 > 0:28:28everything like that, you know -
0:28:28 > 0:28:30that we're also fans.
0:28:30 > 0:28:32We've not to behave like fans when we go to the game,
0:28:32 > 0:28:35in the sense that, you know, we have got to do our job.
0:28:35 > 0:28:38And so I'd this daft idea that...
0:28:38 > 0:28:40And people thought I was nuts, I think, at the time -
0:28:40 > 0:28:44I decided that, although we at that time used to wear a jacket and a tie
0:28:44 > 0:28:47and things like that, on the bench,
0:28:47 > 0:28:50I decided to wear my tartan scarf.
0:28:50 > 0:28:52I just happened to have my tartan scarf on me.
0:28:52 > 0:28:53So...
0:28:53 > 0:28:57And I put this on cos, for me, it was symbolic.
0:28:57 > 0:28:58It's almost like a...
0:28:58 > 0:29:00It's a mixture of a kind of plea to say,
0:29:00 > 0:29:03"Look, genuinely, I am a Scotland fan.
0:29:03 > 0:29:04"You know, I want to be one of yours."
0:29:04 > 0:29:08And it was almost as if he was appealing to the fans
0:29:08 > 0:29:10over the heads of the media,
0:29:10 > 0:29:12who had this deep resentment towards the man.
0:29:15 > 0:29:19Every seat occupied - a capacity crowd of over 36,000 people.
0:29:19 > 0:29:23The banners from every conceivable part of Scotland.
0:29:23 > 0:29:26One or two less complimentary than others.
0:29:26 > 0:29:28This banner said,
0:29:28 > 0:29:32"Don't worry, Andy - your P45's in the post."
0:29:32 > 0:29:34Of course, everybody - especially me -
0:29:34 > 0:29:35I burst out laughing, you know?
0:29:35 > 0:29:38And it just broke the tension as we were going in.
0:29:41 > 0:29:43CHEERING
0:29:47 > 0:29:50Wearing a traditional symbol of national identity
0:29:50 > 0:29:52had helped to galvanise the fans.
0:29:53 > 0:29:55But that wasn't enough.
0:29:55 > 0:29:58A few days later, Scotland were ejected by Brazil.
0:30:00 > 0:30:03Muller got the final touch.
0:30:03 > 0:30:05But that didn't stop Andy.
0:30:05 > 0:30:08He would continue to wear his scarf and address the fans
0:30:08 > 0:30:10for the rest of his time as manager.
0:30:10 > 0:30:11"Gie's a speech, Andy!"
0:30:11 > 0:30:13This is getting a habit, everybody.
0:30:13 > 0:30:15RAUCOUS CHEERING
0:30:16 > 0:30:18You'd better believe it!
0:30:18 > 0:30:21The boys are really, really upset that they let you down.
0:30:21 > 0:30:23SARCASTIC CHEERING
0:30:26 > 0:30:28Don't worry about it - they'll be right back again.
0:30:28 > 0:30:30And they're going to come out and see you.
0:30:30 > 0:30:33SINCERE CHEERING
0:30:39 > 0:30:42Scotland's place in international football was about to face
0:30:42 > 0:30:46bigger challenges than a hostile media.
0:30:46 > 0:30:47The Berlin Wall came down...
0:30:49 > 0:30:52..setting the path for the reunification of Germany.
0:30:52 > 0:30:54Emotions so intense that this has been
0:30:54 > 0:30:59a carnival that people here simply don't want to end.
0:30:59 > 0:31:02The east and west German teams unified, playing under
0:31:02 > 0:31:07one banner for the first time in post-war international competition.
0:31:07 > 0:31:11West Berliners are now convinced that anything is possible,
0:31:11 > 0:31:14and that the reunification of their divided city
0:31:14 > 0:31:15is no longer just a dream.
0:31:19 > 0:31:21The Iron Curtain had torn.
0:31:25 > 0:31:29By 1991, the dissolution of the Soviet Union was formalised.
0:31:31 > 0:31:34The team still played, but under a new name -
0:31:34 > 0:31:36the CIS,
0:31:36 > 0:31:38the Confederation of Independent States.
0:31:40 > 0:31:44The Soviet parliament today formally voted the USSR and itself
0:31:44 > 0:31:45out of existence.
0:31:49 > 0:31:53In 1992, Scotland returned to an international tournament
0:31:53 > 0:31:57and into the European Championships for the first time,
0:31:57 > 0:32:00up against teams that reflected a changing world order.
0:32:01 > 0:32:03The night we saw the draw it was like,
0:32:03 > 0:32:05"Oh, wait a minute - what are we getting?"
0:32:05 > 0:32:07Because at that time, I mean, obviously,
0:32:07 > 0:32:10Germany and Holland and what was the Soviet Union...
0:32:10 > 0:32:13And, of course, at that time you're saying, "Wait a minute, here..."
0:32:13 > 0:32:14You know, what a draw to get!
0:32:14 > 0:32:17But then we'd earned the right to be there.
0:32:17 > 0:32:19Klinsmann trying to hold off.
0:32:19 > 0:32:21And a fine effort there.
0:32:21 > 0:32:23Malpas backpedalling.
0:32:23 > 0:32:24Effenberg's cross, a very awkward one...
0:32:24 > 0:32:26The ball is in the net!
0:32:27 > 0:32:29The final whistle goes.
0:32:29 > 0:32:30Germany are the winners.
0:32:32 > 0:32:34The Cold War had ended,
0:32:34 > 0:32:38and Scotland's match against the CIS would be the last time
0:32:38 > 0:32:41this former superpower would play international football.
0:32:42 > 0:32:45And he's scored for Scotland!
0:32:45 > 0:32:47I think they might just have got caught with
0:32:47 > 0:32:49a wee bit of complacency.
0:32:49 > 0:32:53I think they might have thought, "Scotland won't, you know,
0:32:53 > 0:32:56"they won't have anything to play for here."
0:32:56 > 0:32:58CHEERING
0:32:58 > 0:33:02And it's Brian McClair's first goal for Scotland!
0:33:02 > 0:33:05We didn't realise that we had to at least win that last match
0:33:05 > 0:33:09to say, "Well, this was a team that was worth being there."
0:33:09 > 0:33:11..Gary McAllister.
0:33:11 > 0:33:123-0 to Scotland!
0:33:32 > 0:33:33Yeah, it was tough.
0:33:36 > 0:33:38But, then, that's the name of the game, you know...
0:33:38 > 0:33:40is to be in competitions like that...
0:33:42 > 0:33:44..and give it our best shot.
0:33:46 > 0:33:48Scotland were out of another competition.
0:33:50 > 0:33:53From this point onwards, they would find it increasingly
0:33:53 > 0:33:56difficult to qualify for international tournaments,
0:33:56 > 0:33:59as 15 newly born nations crowded onto the European scene.
0:34:04 > 0:34:07The interesting thing was that, at that very moment,
0:34:07 > 0:34:11a whole range of new independent countries and states and
0:34:11 > 0:34:13republics were emerging,
0:34:13 > 0:34:17all of whom subsequently applied for and got UEFA and FIFA membership.
0:34:17 > 0:34:19And they came back to haunt Scotland.
0:34:19 > 0:34:22Throughout the next 20 years it didn't matter if it was
0:34:22 > 0:34:27Lithuania, Latvia, Georgia or any of these independent states,
0:34:27 > 0:34:29they came back to haunt Scotland.
0:34:30 > 0:34:34During this re-emergence of smaller nations across Eastern Europe,
0:34:34 > 0:34:38the UK constitution was also under strain, after the election of
0:34:38 > 0:34:40a fourth Conservative government in a row.
0:34:42 > 0:34:46Despite the economic blows it had suffered in the early 1980s,
0:34:46 > 0:34:49as the policies of the Conservative government took hold,
0:34:49 > 0:34:53by the 1990s, Scotland's confidence was growing.
0:34:54 > 0:34:58Between the late '80s and late 90s,
0:34:58 > 0:35:01Scottish society, and especially the economy of Scotland,
0:35:01 > 0:35:03was transformed.
0:35:04 > 0:35:07We had financial services, tourism,
0:35:07 > 0:35:09an enlarged public sector,
0:35:09 > 0:35:11high-quality scientific research
0:35:11 > 0:35:15leading into high-quality manufacture.
0:35:15 > 0:35:18That's a much more diversified
0:35:18 > 0:35:20and resilient economic system.
0:35:20 > 0:35:23And that's one reason we have seen
0:35:23 > 0:35:25a substantial growth in national confidence.
0:35:36 > 0:35:39It was an interesting time for Scotland and England to face
0:35:39 > 0:35:41each other on the football field.
0:35:42 > 0:35:45These two nations had expressed their differences on the pitch
0:35:45 > 0:35:47for centuries.
0:35:47 > 0:35:50It's the oldest international fixture in football -
0:35:50 > 0:35:54played annually from 1872 until 1989.
0:35:54 > 0:35:57This tie, with its epic history and rivalry,
0:35:57 > 0:36:00has regularly been a hostile contest.
0:36:01 > 0:36:03Even when that first whistle blows,
0:36:03 > 0:36:05it is war, it is a battle,
0:36:05 > 0:36:06it is graft, it is...
0:36:06 > 0:36:07You do get stuck in.
0:36:07 > 0:36:10There's obviously a lot of bite and a lot of steel,
0:36:10 > 0:36:11still, in the games, as there were when we played.
0:36:11 > 0:36:15I think, well, there's more to the game than just the 90 minutes.
0:36:15 > 0:36:17Everything else comes into it. It shouldn't, but it does.
0:36:22 > 0:36:24If you're living in bed with an elephant,
0:36:24 > 0:36:28as the Scots were - in bed with the English elephant -
0:36:28 > 0:36:31then there was a tremendous incentive
0:36:31 > 0:36:32for David to beat Goliath.
0:36:37 > 0:36:41In 1996, Scotland qualified for the European Championships again,
0:36:41 > 0:36:43this time to be held in England.
0:36:44 > 0:36:45Now in charge,
0:36:45 > 0:36:48Craig Brown took his squad to the back yard of their biggest
0:36:48 > 0:36:50rivals where, to add to the drama,
0:36:50 > 0:36:54Scotland were drawn to play the hosts in their second game.
0:36:54 > 0:36:58I was really, more or less, told by the chief executive,
0:36:58 > 0:37:00"Listen, if we don't qualify
0:37:00 > 0:37:03"for the European Championships, and it's in England,
0:37:03 > 0:37:05"you know the consequences."
0:37:05 > 0:37:06I understood that.
0:37:06 > 0:37:08I would have been so ashamed, embarrassed.
0:37:08 > 0:37:10I definitely would have...
0:37:10 > 0:37:12would have emigrated, I think.
0:37:12 > 0:37:13Because it was in England,
0:37:13 > 0:37:15so you had to qualify.
0:37:18 > 0:37:20At the opening ceremony,
0:37:20 > 0:37:22it was clear that tension was ramping up.
0:37:23 > 0:37:26Big cheer for Scotland, in the spirit of friendship.
0:37:26 > 0:37:28CROWD BOOS
0:37:28 > 0:37:30Obviously, this is the old enemy -
0:37:30 > 0:37:31Scotland V England.
0:37:31 > 0:37:33But I'm hoping we don't have any trouble.
0:37:33 > 0:37:35If it is, it won't be from us, that's for sure.
0:37:35 > 0:37:39The Euro 96, of course, flash back -
0:37:39 > 0:37:45it's 30 years on from England winning the World Cup in 1966.
0:37:45 > 0:37:48And I think, in parts of the way, because Scotland drew England,
0:37:48 > 0:37:52but much of the focus was actually on England,
0:37:52 > 0:37:55in lots of ways I think you could start to see a fray between
0:37:55 > 0:37:58these two nations that had always been great rivals anyway.
0:37:58 > 0:38:02You see, Scotland was never an assimilated nation.
0:38:02 > 0:38:05It was never assimilated to England.
0:38:05 > 0:38:09Scotland's relationship with England was one of a dual identity -
0:38:09 > 0:38:11Scottishness and Britishness.
0:38:13 > 0:38:15It's a kind of...
0:38:15 > 0:38:18How would you put it? It's a politics of identity
0:38:18 > 0:38:20that doesn't threaten the union.
0:38:20 > 0:38:23None of Scotland's symbols of identity were meant to
0:38:23 > 0:38:27threaten the union, because they prospered so much from it.
0:38:29 > 0:38:32It was a wonderful feeling, to beat the English on the sporting
0:38:32 > 0:38:36field, but that didn't necessarily mean that you then went on
0:38:36 > 0:38:38to destroy the union of 1707.
0:38:38 > 0:38:41That union was beginning to change.
0:38:41 > 0:38:44Labour campaigned on a promise of devolution for Scotland,
0:38:44 > 0:38:47in the run-up to the 1997 general election.
0:38:49 > 0:38:53UK-wide broadcasters often found it hard to make the distinction
0:38:53 > 0:38:55between England and Britain.
0:38:57 > 0:38:59I remember, vividly,
0:38:59 > 0:39:04that when shows that were on air, like TFI Friday or whatever,
0:39:04 > 0:39:08they were kind of cheering on the England team of that time.
0:39:12 > 0:39:14Well...
0:39:14 > 0:39:16You've really done it this evening.
0:39:16 > 0:39:18You've picked a great TFI Friday to tune into.
0:39:18 > 0:39:22And you kind of felt that you were watching telly in a foreign nation.
0:39:22 > 0:39:23And maybe you were.
0:39:23 > 0:39:24Of course, it could be
0:39:24 > 0:39:27the first time we've won anything for 30 years.
0:39:27 > 0:39:29England, of course. I'm talking about England.
0:39:29 > 0:39:31I apologise to the one person in Scotland that's watching -
0:39:31 > 0:39:34we've got one person in Scotland, three people in England, watching.
0:39:34 > 0:39:36Scotland were drawn against England.
0:39:36 > 0:39:38England were dominating the airwaves.
0:39:38 > 0:39:43The game was being played at "the home of football - Wembley".
0:39:43 > 0:39:46The odds were stacked against Scotland for this momentous match.
0:39:47 > 0:39:50CHEERING
0:39:50 > 0:39:54Gary McAllister's penalty miss will be one of those things that
0:39:54 > 0:39:57will be written about and discussed forever.
0:39:57 > 0:40:01What actually did happen, because the ball moves -
0:40:01 > 0:40:03now it may just have been that it was on a bauble of turf,
0:40:03 > 0:40:06it may be that it wasn't placed properly on the spot,
0:40:06 > 0:40:09all sorts of rational explanations, but of course,
0:40:09 > 0:40:11Scots fans run to the irrational,
0:40:11 > 0:40:15which is that, somehow, some mysterious force -
0:40:15 > 0:40:16Uri Geller in a helicopter -
0:40:16 > 0:40:20had put a spell on the pitch, all those kind of things.
0:40:20 > 0:40:23Anything to try and change the result of that game.
0:40:23 > 0:40:24But, you know what?
0:40:24 > 0:40:25We can't.
0:40:25 > 0:40:26We got beat.
0:40:30 > 0:40:33After the game, passion descended into violence,
0:40:33 > 0:40:36as fighting broke out between rival fans.
0:40:47 > 0:40:51Three years later, Scotland played England yet again -
0:40:51 > 0:40:54this time in a play-off for Euro 2000.
0:40:54 > 0:40:56The first leg took place in Glasgow,
0:40:56 > 0:41:00and was dubbed "The Battle of Britain".
0:41:00 > 0:41:02You had to calm yourself to play in that Scotland/England play-off,
0:41:02 > 0:41:04because there was so much at stake.
0:41:04 > 0:41:06It was the old enemy, who hated one another.
0:41:06 > 0:41:09It was one of the best games...
0:41:09 > 0:41:10I've ever played in.
0:41:10 > 0:41:14CROWD BOOING AS GOD SAVE THE QUEEN PLAYS
0:41:18 > 0:41:21The atmosphere, I kid you not,
0:41:21 > 0:41:24when the national anthems went out on that park,
0:41:24 > 0:41:26I could not hear the English national anthem.
0:41:26 > 0:41:29Scholes has made a darting run to the edge of the area.
0:41:29 > 0:41:31It's Paul Scholes!
0:41:31 > 0:41:32And it's 1-0!
0:41:33 > 0:41:35He did what he does so well.
0:41:41 > 0:41:45There was a level of violence in the aftermath of the game in Glasgow
0:41:45 > 0:41:48that had not been seen when Scotland played any other team.
0:41:54 > 0:41:55'Are you getting that, aye?'
0:41:55 > 0:41:57'Are you getting the English coming to cause trouble?'
0:42:04 > 0:42:07The return leg took place in London.
0:42:09 > 0:42:12Thousands of Scots made the trip to witness England's last
0:42:12 > 0:42:14competitive game at Wembley.
0:42:14 > 0:42:18We gave them the fright of their lives, down at Wembley.
0:42:18 > 0:42:19And beating the English, 1-0 -
0:42:19 > 0:42:21OK, we're out the tournament,
0:42:21 > 0:42:22but hearing the Scottish fans
0:42:22 > 0:42:24singing louder than the English...
0:42:24 > 0:42:26The English were silent.
0:42:28 > 0:42:32I think it was the last major game at the old Wembley.
0:42:32 > 0:42:34So, nice for us Scots to beat the English.
0:42:36 > 0:42:41The Scotland/England match always inspired a high level of passion.
0:42:41 > 0:42:44With visionary insight, Jock Stein, some 40 years earlier,
0:42:44 > 0:42:49had expressed reservations about the importance of the fixture.
0:42:49 > 0:42:50Jock Stein once said,
0:42:50 > 0:42:52and I can remember him saying it in an interview,
0:42:52 > 0:42:55explaining why he didn't think it was a good idea
0:42:55 > 0:42:57for Scotland to play England every year.
0:42:57 > 0:43:02An astonishing thing for Scotland fans to think about.
0:43:02 > 0:43:05You know, this is the great icon, the greatest manager...
0:43:05 > 0:43:07Scottish manager, who ever lived.
0:43:07 > 0:43:11Jock Stein says, "It's no' a great idea."
0:43:11 > 0:43:12Why did he say it wasn't a good idea?
0:43:12 > 0:43:15Well, of course, for somebody who had the vision that Stein had,
0:43:15 > 0:43:18he realised if you invested all of your passion,
0:43:18 > 0:43:21all of your commitment, all of your energy,
0:43:21 > 0:43:23into that big fixture
0:43:23 > 0:43:27and set your success or failure against that fixture...
0:43:27 > 0:43:29You know, when we won in '67...
0:43:29 > 0:43:32Yeah, but we didn't qualify for '66,
0:43:32 > 0:43:35although we had a fine and outstanding side.
0:43:35 > 0:43:38I can exactly see what Jock Stein was getting at.
0:43:38 > 0:43:43It was not just football as a substitute for national
0:43:43 > 0:43:46expression through so many other ways,
0:43:46 > 0:43:48but also the Scotland/England game
0:43:48 > 0:43:51was a substitute for real success in football.
0:43:51 > 0:43:55Meanwhile, Scotland's political engagement had increased,
0:43:55 > 0:43:58as could be seen by the overwhelming vote for devolution
0:43:58 > 0:44:00in the referendum of 1997
0:44:00 > 0:44:03and the opening of Parliament in 1999.
0:44:05 > 0:44:07Scotland would never be the same again.
0:44:11 > 0:44:13The Scottish Parliament gave Scotland
0:44:13 > 0:44:16a greater sense of itself in a rapidly changing world.
0:44:20 > 0:44:24But its football team had lost their place on the international stage.
0:44:26 > 0:44:29Craig Brown may have been Scotland's most successful manager,
0:44:29 > 0:44:32but even his time with the team had an expiry date.
0:44:34 > 0:44:38It was the last, my fourth campaign, when we failed to qualify,
0:44:38 > 0:44:39and I thought, "I cannae stay on."
0:44:40 > 0:44:42I told the players first.
0:44:44 > 0:44:47And, you know, I think one or two were...
0:44:47 > 0:44:51quite happy, but I think most, I would like to think most...
0:44:51 > 0:44:52were sorry.
0:44:53 > 0:44:57I actually thought the next appointment was an inspired one.
0:44:58 > 0:45:00The choice of Craig Brown's successor
0:45:00 > 0:45:05reflected the fact that football had become increasingly international.
0:45:05 > 0:45:07Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.
0:45:07 > 0:45:11This really is a fairly momentous day for Scottish football.
0:45:11 > 0:45:14I don't have to tell you all that this is the first time
0:45:14 > 0:45:17that Scotland has had a national coach who's not a Scot.
0:45:17 > 0:45:19Please call me...
0:45:19 > 0:45:20Berti MacVogts.
0:45:20 > 0:45:22POLITE LAUGHTER
0:45:24 > 0:45:25You know, he was different -
0:45:25 > 0:45:29he had a different approach to things.
0:45:29 > 0:45:30You know, and...
0:45:30 > 0:45:33the first thing I remember was, the night before games...
0:45:33 > 0:45:36He had a meeting the night before games,
0:45:36 > 0:45:38and he had the drinks trolley come in and, you know,
0:45:38 > 0:45:40a glass of wine or a beer, the night before the game.
0:45:40 > 0:45:43It's something that, you know...
0:45:43 > 0:45:44I'd never experienced before.
0:45:44 > 0:45:47But it was more just to get everybody talking and
0:45:47 > 0:45:49get preparing for the next day, rather than...
0:45:49 > 0:45:51having a good old drinking session.
0:45:51 > 0:45:53But it was different.
0:45:53 > 0:45:54Dadu with a chance!
0:45:55 > 0:45:57They don't score often, but
0:45:57 > 0:45:59they've picked on Scotland to do so.
0:45:59 > 0:46:01And it's Moldova 1, Scotland 0.
0:46:04 > 0:46:08Poor results against the likes of the Faroes and Moldova
0:46:08 > 0:46:12meant the Berti Vogts experiment had failed.
0:46:12 > 0:46:14After two and a half years, he was sacked.
0:46:16 > 0:46:20Walter Smith was brought in to turn around the team's fortunes.
0:46:20 > 0:46:23I think Scotland have a chance of qualifying for the World Cup finals.
0:46:23 > 0:46:25Like every other manager,
0:46:25 > 0:46:28you go in and you hope that you would have an upturn in results.
0:46:29 > 0:46:33Scotland didn't qualify for 2006 under Walter Smith,
0:46:33 > 0:46:35but did see an improvement in results.
0:46:35 > 0:46:38Their ranking shot up 61 places.
0:46:43 > 0:46:46Alex McLeish took over, and built on some of the results achieved
0:46:46 > 0:46:48under Walter Smith's leadership.
0:46:48 > 0:46:50He's going for...GOAL!
0:46:50 > 0:46:54James McFadden scores the best goal he's scored for his country.
0:46:54 > 0:46:56Absolutely sensational!
0:46:56 > 0:46:58And it's over -
0:46:58 > 0:47:00it is all over at the Parc des Princes!
0:47:00 > 0:47:03Tonight, in Paris, they take a huge step forward
0:47:03 > 0:47:05to returning to the European elite.
0:47:05 > 0:47:07Tonight, Scotland are kings.
0:47:09 > 0:47:12That win against France meant Scotland were one win away
0:47:12 > 0:47:15from qualification for Euro 2008.
0:47:17 > 0:47:19Italy maybe the world champions, but they were rocked
0:47:19 > 0:47:22against Australia in the quarterfinals.
0:47:22 > 0:47:23We'd a bad start.
0:47:36 > 0:47:37We fought back brilliantly.
0:47:40 > 0:47:44Takes a deflection... Lee McCulloch against the goalkeeper... It's in,
0:47:44 > 0:47:46by Scotland captain Barry Ferguson.
0:47:50 > 0:47:53The mid week before the Italy game,
0:47:53 > 0:47:56I got a phone call from an Italian journalist, a girl.
0:47:58 > 0:48:03And she said, "Do you really think that UEFA will allow
0:48:03 > 0:48:05"France and Italy not to qualify?"
0:48:11 > 0:48:14I said, "Ooh, wait a minute - this is a bit controversial,
0:48:14 > 0:48:16"cos we don't say things like that in Scotland."
0:48:20 > 0:48:23She said, "Oh, look, listen, Mr McLeish,
0:48:23 > 0:48:26"the whole of Italy is talking about this.
0:48:26 > 0:48:27"If there's a 50-50...
0:48:28 > 0:48:31"...the referee will favour the Italians or France."
0:48:39 > 0:48:42Chiellini has challenged well.
0:48:42 > 0:48:44Hutton overran it.
0:48:44 > 0:48:47It's a free kick, but it's a Scotland free kick.
0:48:56 > 0:48:59And it comes to nothing - the Italians are through.
0:48:59 > 0:49:00That was great.
0:49:04 > 0:49:06Ach, it was...it was terrible, because
0:49:06 > 0:49:10I was so convinced about it, that that's why
0:49:10 > 0:49:13the disappointment of it was absolutely devastating.
0:49:34 > 0:49:35Alex McLeish resigned.
0:49:37 > 0:49:39George Burley was next to take on the team...
0:49:41 > 0:49:42..and their egos.
0:49:44 > 0:49:46I mean, I don't think you go in blind...
0:49:47 > 0:49:50..to any managerial job or especially international,
0:49:50 > 0:49:53cos the international job...
0:49:53 > 0:49:56you can't go and buy players, you can't take players on loan,
0:49:56 > 0:49:59so that's your squad and you've got to get on with it.
0:49:59 > 0:50:02And Scotland hadn't - still haven't -
0:50:02 > 0:50:03qualified for a long time
0:50:03 > 0:50:07for European and World Cup Championships.
0:50:07 > 0:50:09So it was never going to be an easy one.
0:50:11 > 0:50:14There was a lot of strong personalities.
0:50:14 > 0:50:15And that's the way it was.
0:50:17 > 0:50:22I didn't particularly enjoy dealing with some of them at times,
0:50:22 > 0:50:24but that's football.
0:50:24 > 0:50:28As a manager, I've got to try and get the best out of them.
0:50:28 > 0:50:32The influx of big-money into the game had seen club football
0:50:32 > 0:50:35take precedence over country, for some.
0:50:35 > 0:50:37There was a lot of cliques at that time, a lot of groups -
0:50:37 > 0:50:40there was the Rangers group and there was the Celtic group,
0:50:40 > 0:50:43and it was others and then the others...
0:50:43 > 0:50:46It was a lot of hard work because you had so many big -
0:50:46 > 0:50:47with Rangers, especially -
0:50:47 > 0:50:51so many big egos and so many powerful figures.
0:50:51 > 0:50:54George asked me if I'd be interested in taking up
0:50:54 > 0:50:57a coaching position with the national team.
0:50:57 > 0:51:00I was still a Celtic player and there was players in there
0:51:00 > 0:51:04from Rangers and other clubs that maybe felt that having
0:51:04 > 0:51:07a Celtic player on the coaching staff wasn't right.
0:51:07 > 0:51:11But I felt that George himself didn't manage the group well enough.
0:51:12 > 0:51:16Scotland were hoping to reach the World Cup in South Africa.
0:51:16 > 0:51:18They had just lost to Holland,
0:51:18 > 0:51:21and faced Iceland in the next qualifying match.
0:51:22 > 0:51:25The next game was all-important.
0:51:25 > 0:51:29And it was obviously a huge match for the country.
0:51:29 > 0:51:32That night, the Scotland squad were staying at the team hotel
0:51:32 > 0:51:34at Loch Lomond.
0:51:34 > 0:51:36Most of the team turned in for the night,
0:51:36 > 0:51:40but captain Barry Ferguson and Allan McGregor
0:51:40 > 0:51:42propped up the bar into the morning,
0:51:42 > 0:51:44just three days before the next game.
0:51:45 > 0:51:48So it was like damage limitation then, because...
0:51:50 > 0:51:54..punters had seen the players drinking all night
0:51:54 > 0:51:56and all that sort of thing,
0:51:56 > 0:51:59and that's not something that we encourage or wanted.
0:52:01 > 0:52:02Barry let himself down.
0:52:05 > 0:52:06And let the team down.
0:52:06 > 0:52:09There's no doubt about that.
0:52:09 > 0:52:12Playing for Scotland had once been a dream.
0:52:12 > 0:52:14But now that honour had lost its shine,
0:52:14 > 0:52:16at least for some.
0:52:16 > 0:52:20I think it could have been handled better from within.
0:52:20 > 0:52:24Barry's actions were not those of a captain of Scotland
0:52:24 > 0:52:26and a top professional.
0:52:26 > 0:52:29It's happened before in Scotland, as I know,
0:52:29 > 0:52:32where it's got, maybe, brushed a little bit under the carpet.
0:52:32 > 0:52:36But in this day and age, with the media,
0:52:36 > 0:52:37usually something breaks out.
0:52:38 > 0:52:41Sidelined for the next match,
0:52:41 > 0:52:43the disgraced players only made matters worse.
0:52:47 > 0:52:50Barry Ferguson never played for Scotland again.
0:52:53 > 0:52:55Burley's squad failed to qualify.
0:52:55 > 0:52:57His tenure ended in failure.
0:52:59 > 0:53:02Craig Levein inherited a broken and depleted squad,
0:53:02 > 0:53:06but his reign would be remembered for another infamous night.
0:53:07 > 0:53:10You know, the idea was to get over there, come away with a draw.
0:53:10 > 0:53:12People say you shouldn't do that.
0:53:12 > 0:53:15But we had a lot of problems in the
0:53:15 > 0:53:18attacking area of the team, at that time.
0:53:18 > 0:53:22Levein decided to try something new, and raised eyebrows by playing
0:53:22 > 0:53:25a surprising shape with no recognised forwards.
0:53:25 > 0:53:29There goes plan A for Craig Levein.
0:53:29 > 0:53:32The 4-6-0 formation against the Czech Republic
0:53:32 > 0:53:35would ultimately dog his tenure as manager.
0:53:36 > 0:53:39If I had the opportunity to do it again,
0:53:39 > 0:53:41I would have done the same thing,
0:53:41 > 0:53:44but I would have put two more
0:53:44 > 0:53:47recognised strikers in and just asked them to drop back.
0:53:49 > 0:53:51Yeah, I got criticism I didn't expect.
0:53:51 > 0:53:54But I think it was frustration,
0:53:54 > 0:53:58but it became a bit of a stick to hit me with.
0:53:59 > 0:54:01And, you know...
0:54:01 > 0:54:03it comes right down to I gave them the stick, so...
0:54:03 > 0:54:05I've no complaints about it.
0:54:07 > 0:54:09And the wheel kept moving.
0:54:09 > 0:54:12Now it was the turn of Gordon Strachan.
0:54:12 > 0:54:15He had what was seen as the easier task of qualifying Scotland
0:54:15 > 0:54:18for Euro 2016.
0:54:18 > 0:54:22Easier, because there were now eight more places in the competition.
0:54:23 > 0:54:24I thought...
0:54:24 > 0:54:28Well, why not? Who else is going to do it? I'll do it.
0:54:28 > 0:54:31And better me doing it than a young manager.
0:54:31 > 0:54:36And I think it's at a good stage in my life, where I do want to coach,
0:54:36 > 0:54:40I don't have to deal with the nonsense that comes with players,
0:54:40 > 0:54:43I meet guys who are generally feeling good about themselves.
0:54:43 > 0:54:47Scotland failed to qualify for yet another international tournament,
0:54:47 > 0:54:49making it nine in a row.
0:54:49 > 0:54:53But, despite that, Strachan has been given another chance -
0:54:53 > 0:54:57to get Scotland to the 2018 World Cup.
0:54:57 > 0:54:58Where it all goes wrong,
0:54:58 > 0:55:03there's absolutely...there's almost a mantra of where it all goes on,
0:55:03 > 0:55:07that the press all sing in chorus, after every disappointment.
0:55:09 > 0:55:11We've got to sing the chorus about, you know,
0:55:11 > 0:55:14the teachers' strike and video games
0:55:14 > 0:55:19and not enough resources and the cold weather,
0:55:19 > 0:55:22and I think, simply, the problem is
0:55:22 > 0:55:25not enough kids playing not enough football.
0:55:28 > 0:55:30Scotland is now a confident nation,
0:55:30 > 0:55:32clear about her standing in the world.
0:55:32 > 0:55:35Her level of political engagement has never been higher.
0:55:38 > 0:55:42But despite the unwavering support of the Tartan Army,
0:55:42 > 0:55:45the same cannot be said for the national game.
0:55:46 > 0:55:48It has failed to keep pace
0:55:48 > 0:55:52with the rapid changes in international football.
0:55:52 > 0:55:54One of the fascinating things about Scotland,
0:55:54 > 0:55:56irrespective of decline,
0:55:56 > 0:55:57Scotland, proportionately,
0:55:57 > 0:56:00still has more people going to football matches,
0:56:00 > 0:56:01week in, week out,
0:56:01 > 0:56:03than any other nation in Europe.
0:56:03 > 0:56:05That's quite extraordinary.
0:56:05 > 0:56:08So you have to say that football matters more to Scottish people
0:56:08 > 0:56:11than it means to Finnish people, to Swedish people, whatever.
0:56:11 > 0:56:14That's a matter of statistical fact.
0:56:14 > 0:56:19Whether it still means what it meant in the 1930s or the 1940s,
0:56:19 > 0:56:21I seriously doubt because society has changed,
0:56:21 > 0:56:23the workplace has changed,
0:56:23 > 0:56:27the patterns of how we receive and gain entertainment has changed...
0:56:27 > 0:56:31What Scotland needs is more talented footballers who can compete
0:56:31 > 0:56:33at international level.
0:56:33 > 0:56:34The question is
0:56:34 > 0:56:37how can that be achieved?
0:56:37 > 0:56:39If you look at Holland, if you look at France,
0:56:39 > 0:56:42if you look at Spain, if you look at other countries,
0:56:42 > 0:56:44the kids are not playing on the streets either.
0:56:44 > 0:56:48And the kids are playing with the gadgets and the games
0:56:48 > 0:56:50and the geeky stuff that they do, so there's no difference, you know?
0:56:50 > 0:56:54That's no longer an explanation, because they can produce teams
0:56:54 > 0:56:57of outstanding importance and brilliance.
0:56:57 > 0:56:59You're working with a group of players that the country's
0:56:59 > 0:57:01produced at that particular time.
0:57:01 > 0:57:04They are...a limited group.
0:57:04 > 0:57:08They're an honest, solid, limited group.
0:57:08 > 0:57:11And I have to believe it is a cycle we're in that, one day -
0:57:11 > 0:57:15please, God, very soon - will produce another Kenny Dalglish,
0:57:15 > 0:57:18or another three or four players that can get us qualified
0:57:18 > 0:57:21and make an impression in the World Cup.
0:57:21 > 0:57:22Scotland is changing. There is no doubt about it.
0:57:22 > 0:57:26I mean, I look upon the referendum on September the 18th as
0:57:26 > 0:57:28the big political bang.
0:57:28 > 0:57:30We're not quite sure how it's going to shake down,
0:57:30 > 0:57:33but the main beneficiaries are one particular political party.
0:57:33 > 0:57:36But Scotland's changed. There is a greater sense of ambition,
0:57:36 > 0:57:37a greater sense of energy,
0:57:37 > 0:57:40a greater sense of not accepting what's gone before,
0:57:40 > 0:57:43and this, I think, is about the "yes, we can".
0:57:43 > 0:57:45If you look at the history of Hampden Park -
0:57:45 > 0:57:48that now, for us, is about memories.
0:57:48 > 0:57:50We've now got to look forward to the dreams.
0:57:50 > 0:57:52And I'm just the eternal optimist.
0:57:52 > 0:57:54We can do it. We can do it.
0:57:57 > 0:58:01In a Scotland that has placed so much emphasis on maleness,
0:58:01 > 0:58:03on industrial working class,
0:58:03 > 0:58:05it's lassies that are better.
0:58:05 > 0:58:07SHE SHOUTS
0:58:07 > 0:58:08Somebody described Twitter to me as
0:58:08 > 0:58:12a bit like entering a pub when everybody's on their ninth pint.
0:58:12 > 0:58:13We need to change.
0:58:13 > 0:58:16We need to do things differently.
0:58:16 > 0:58:20If you looked at the cold harsh reality of the quality fare
0:58:20 > 0:58:24that's been served up, I think you would go and jump in the Clyde.