Murder: Joint Enterprise

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0:00:02 > 0:00:06This programme contains some violent scenes, very strong language from the start

0:00:06 > 0:00:10and scenes which some viewers may find disturbing.

0:00:10 > 0:00:15He would never have come to Nottingham if it had been up to him. You get that a lot.

0:00:16 > 0:00:19"Fate fucked me over."

0:01:16 > 0:01:18CAR HORN BEEPS

0:01:23 > 0:01:25INDICATOR CLICKS

0:01:49 > 0:01:52SIREN BLARES

0:02:00 > 0:02:03We were like sisters should be.

0:02:06 > 0:02:11We were like the sisters people mean when they say two people are like sisters.

0:02:12 > 0:02:16He bought us drinks. Um, he was wearing a denim jacket.

0:02:18 > 0:02:20I said "Ignore him," but she said, "Why?"

0:02:26 > 0:02:29- POOL BALLS RATTLE - We were playing pool. He came over.

0:02:33 > 0:02:35He said "Don't worry, I'm a priest."

0:02:35 > 0:02:38She thought that was funny.

0:02:38 > 0:02:43He said, um, the drinks were for two nuns who hadn't turned up.

0:02:43 > 0:02:45She laughed. She said, "Would WE do?"

0:02:45 > 0:02:47He wanted to put his name down.

0:02:49 > 0:02:53Erin picked up the drink and drank it in a way that meant, yeah, he could.

0:02:53 > 0:02:57Stefan. S-T-E-F-A-N.

0:03:06 > 0:03:07I mean, I have done stuff.

0:03:09 > 0:03:12Just cos I've done stuff, that don't mean... My nephew's getting christened today.

0:03:12 > 0:03:14I'm supposed to be his godfather.

0:03:16 > 0:03:18He'll have no godfather now.

0:03:20 > 0:03:23We had the same tattoos. We were getting another one.

0:03:24 > 0:03:27"When the sun shines, we shine together,

0:03:27 > 0:03:28"told you I'll be here for ever."

0:03:35 > 0:03:38She had sensitive skin.

0:03:38 > 0:03:42She needed a couple of drinks first, and that's why we were in The Royal.

0:03:43 > 0:03:47Look, I HAVE done stuff. I never said that I haven't done stuff.

0:03:47 > 0:03:50- I'll fucking show you, then, you fucking prick!- Argh!

0:03:51 > 0:03:55But that does not mean that I did this.

0:03:55 > 0:03:58She lent me her purse to buy pizza.

0:03:58 > 0:04:00No comment.

0:04:00 > 0:04:02No comment.

0:04:02 > 0:04:04Look, they asked me over to play pool!

0:04:04 > 0:04:06I-I was minding my own business!

0:04:06 > 0:04:08I shouldn't even have fucking been there.

0:04:08 > 0:04:12I said, "Just ignore him." She should've ignored him, like I said.

0:04:18 > 0:04:20You know, my mum warned me about Nottingham.

0:04:20 > 0:04:22"Always grief," she said, "Nottingham."

0:04:27 > 0:04:30She said, "It's there, look, right there, start of the word - 'Not'."

0:04:30 > 0:04:32I remember that.

0:04:35 > 0:04:36Grief.

0:04:39 > 0:04:40Grief.

0:04:45 > 0:04:49We lived together. Always.

0:04:49 > 0:04:51Almost always.

0:04:54 > 0:04:59Flat 4/5, Caxton House, Vernon Road, Basford, Nottingham.

0:04:59 > 0:05:02- Since we were kids. - CHILDREN GIGGLE

0:05:08 > 0:05:11'Since we were kids.'

0:05:14 > 0:05:15Stefan!

0:05:18 > 0:05:20The chalk squeaked when he wrote his name.

0:05:24 > 0:05:26I said it was "winner stays on".

0:05:27 > 0:05:28Erin's the dead one.

0:05:30 > 0:05:32She was looking at me.

0:05:32 > 0:05:36Yeah, she'd look down the pool cue, and then just before she potted the ball,

0:05:36 > 0:05:38there'd be a little look up at me. WOMAN LAUGHS

0:05:38 > 0:05:40And they could play, both of them.

0:05:44 > 0:05:47He was just minding his business at the bar.

0:05:47 > 0:05:52And this pretty girl playing pool kept giving him the eye.

0:05:52 > 0:05:56So he gets them a couple of drinks and he goes over.

0:05:56 > 0:05:59'The youngest one, Coleen, she didn't want me there.'

0:05:59 > 0:06:02He thought he was funny. A "priest."

0:06:02 > 0:06:04"Very dry," he kept saying.

0:06:04 > 0:06:08Everything that Erin said, he said it was "very dry."

0:06:08 > 0:06:11I said, "Don't forget we're going for these tattoos."

0:06:13 > 0:06:15The younger one wanted to go,

0:06:15 > 0:06:18the older one didn't fancy it, the tattoo.

0:06:18 > 0:06:22So, you know, he was being gentlemanly.

0:06:27 > 0:06:29He kept on buying her drinks. Us.

0:06:29 > 0:06:32So then Erin says, "Let's go and get some pizza."

0:06:32 > 0:06:34It must have been, I don't know, 7pm?

0:06:34 > 0:06:38Erin said, "Anything, as long as it's not pizza."

0:06:38 > 0:06:42She didn't like going in there cos the bloke was a knob.

0:06:47 > 0:06:50But Stefan grabbed her bag and went in.

0:06:52 > 0:06:55- Didn't want to go in. "Would- I- go in?" Gives me her purse, right?

0:07:01 > 0:07:04POLICE RADIO DISPATCH

0:07:15 > 0:07:18So, when he came out, she said, "Give it back."

0:07:18 > 0:07:21And he said, "I'll give it back at the flat."

0:07:21 > 0:07:24So he knew our address cos he'd seen it on her licence.

0:07:24 > 0:07:26She said, "Let's sit here, at the bus stop."

0:07:26 > 0:07:29He said, "No, the flat."

0:07:30 > 0:07:33He walked off with her bag and the pizzas.

0:07:34 > 0:07:37I had a really bad feeling.

0:07:38 > 0:07:41They weren't laughing now.

0:07:41 > 0:07:45LIFT WHIRRS

0:07:49 > 0:07:51In the lift, it all went quiet.

0:07:53 > 0:07:56Except, it was in the air, I'll be honest with you.

0:08:04 > 0:08:08Coleen hadn't said a word for about an hour cos of missing the tattoo.

0:08:08 > 0:08:11Then, erm, she cheered up all of a sudden.

0:08:11 > 0:08:13Said, had I ever played spin the bottle?

0:08:13 > 0:08:16He said, did we know spin the bottle?

0:08:16 > 0:08:20- I said it was a game for kids. And he said, "Not the way- I- play it."

0:08:24 > 0:08:25PHONE RINGS

0:08:25 > 0:08:29- 'Emergency. What service do you require?' - You've got to come now, please.

0:08:29 > 0:08:31- POLICE SIRENS BLARE - 'Can you give me the address?'

0:08:31 > 0:08:35I'm scared he's still here. He's hurt my sister.

0:08:35 > 0:08:38- He's hurt my sister...- 'Just stay calm.'- He's hurt my sister!

0:08:38 > 0:08:40He was arrested at 22:47

0:08:40 > 0:08:43during a high-speed chase, driving the victim's car.

0:08:46 > 0:08:49He wasn't from Nottingham, and he was driving away.

0:08:49 > 0:08:53He said that a lot. For a while, it was either that or "No comment."

0:08:53 > 0:08:55No comment.

0:08:55 > 0:08:56No comment.

0:08:56 > 0:08:59"I shouldn't have been in Nottingham," he said.

0:09:01 > 0:09:03"I shouldn't have been in Nottingham."

0:09:03 > 0:09:06Something his mother had told him.

0:09:06 > 0:09:09If he hadn't been in Nottingham, none of this would've happened.

0:09:09 > 0:09:12By which I took him to mean the murder.

0:09:20 > 0:09:23Yeah, "Strip spin the bottle," she said.

0:09:23 > 0:09:26"If it points to me, I take something off."

0:09:26 > 0:09:30She was bollock-naked inside of 15 minutes.

0:09:30 > 0:09:33She says, "If it points to me again, I start putting stuff on now."

0:09:33 > 0:09:35This is Coleen I'm talking about.

0:09:35 > 0:09:37Putting other people's stuff on.

0:09:38 > 0:09:40He took the washing line off the balcony

0:09:40 > 0:09:43and tied it round the bathroom door handle,

0:09:43 > 0:09:46and pushed me in there and tied it somewhere so I couldn't get out.

0:09:46 > 0:09:49He would never have come to Nottingham if it had been up to him.

0:09:49 > 0:09:53You get that a lot. "Fate fucked me over!"

0:09:53 > 0:09:56She had my jacket on with my wallet in it,

0:09:56 > 0:09:59and she went to the bathroom and locked the door and started singing.

0:09:59 > 0:10:02So she couldn't hear me.

0:10:02 > 0:10:03That's why I'm kicking the door.

0:10:03 > 0:10:08And I could hear him... And I could hear her,

0:10:08 > 0:10:12and I was shouting "What's he doing to you, what's he doing?"

0:10:12 > 0:10:14And, yeah, I might have pushed her, but that was it.

0:10:14 > 0:10:17I was shouting, "What's he done to you?

0:10:19 > 0:10:20"What's he done?"

0:10:22 > 0:10:24And I was shaking the door and shaking it,

0:10:24 > 0:10:27and the washing line came off and I fell back.

0:10:32 > 0:10:36He'd been to see a friend of his in Doncaster where he lives.

0:10:36 > 0:10:39And this pal was just off to watch the Rovers away.

0:10:39 > 0:10:44He said, "Why didn't Stefan get on the coach, and that way,

0:10:44 > 0:10:47"he'd be out of the way of these young lads he was hiding from."

0:10:47 > 0:10:48The Coppett brothers.

0:10:48 > 0:10:52'She tried to open a can of lager, but the opener with the tab bit had snapped off,'

0:10:52 > 0:10:56so she tried to push it in with her finger. She cut it, it bled like fuck,

0:10:56 > 0:10:59and that's how I've got her blood all over my fingernails and everywhere.

0:10:59 > 0:11:03But I just fucking left them to it. They're fucking crazy women!

0:11:03 > 0:11:05I thought he was going to come in.

0:11:05 > 0:11:08And I was scared to go out.

0:11:12 > 0:11:15I was...calling, "Erin...

0:11:17 > 0:11:19"Erin."

0:11:19 > 0:11:20Like a whisper.

0:11:20 > 0:11:25It was only after they were well on their way that he asked who Rovers were playing,

0:11:25 > 0:11:28and his pal said, "Nottingham Forest."

0:11:28 > 0:11:31"Erin. Erin."

0:11:31 > 0:11:37Shame for me they weren't playing Derby County. Her too.

0:11:41 > 0:11:43Yeah, I might have pushed her but that was it.

0:11:45 > 0:11:47"Fate fucked me over."

0:11:51 > 0:11:55I asked him if he had a thing about sisters.

0:11:55 > 0:11:56Some men do.

0:11:58 > 0:12:01Look, someone else killed her. I didn't kill her.

0:12:01 > 0:12:04Someone broke in and killed her, but not me.

0:12:05 > 0:12:09Someone got into their flat after I left and killed her.

0:12:09 > 0:12:12Robbery gone wrong. Nothing more than that.

0:12:12 > 0:12:15He went there for anything he could get and it blew up in his face.

0:12:15 > 0:12:18I've not done anything I've not been fucking caught for.

0:12:18 > 0:12:20"Fate fucked me over."

0:12:23 > 0:12:26She lent me her purse to buy the pizza.

0:12:26 > 0:12:29If someone lends you something, they lend you what's in it, don't they?

0:12:29 > 0:12:31They lend you their purse, and that purse has a key in it,

0:12:31 > 0:12:34and that key opens a car, and then starts a car,

0:12:34 > 0:12:36then, you haven't stolen a car.

0:12:39 > 0:12:43Look, I HAD been drinking, I'm not denying that.

0:12:43 > 0:12:45Look, my hands are up to that.

0:12:50 > 0:12:55Cause of death was blows to the head with a blunt instrument or instruments.

0:12:55 > 0:12:59One to the left at the front, three or four more to the back at the right.

0:12:59 > 0:13:04The indentation to the front is semi-spherical in shape and less injurious.

0:13:04 > 0:13:08The fractures to the back of the skull are penetrative and V-shaped.

0:13:08 > 0:13:12There were other blows and kicks and a bite to the arm,

0:13:12 > 0:13:14but it was the blows to the head that killed her.

0:13:14 > 0:13:17Scene-of-crime investigation suggests the murder weapon

0:13:17 > 0:13:20was a rectangular Amaretto bottle found at the scene,

0:13:20 > 0:13:24and this tallies with the V-shape of some of the indentations,

0:13:24 > 0:13:27presumably caused by the bottle's corners.

0:13:28 > 0:13:31We had her blood on his jacket and shoes.

0:13:31 > 0:13:34Her blood on the steering wheel. His prints on the bottle.

0:13:34 > 0:13:38We had an eyewitness statement from the sister.

0:13:38 > 0:13:39We had him.

0:13:45 > 0:13:47PHONE RINGS

0:13:47 > 0:13:51I've got two brothers and they're both every bit as bad as me.

0:13:53 > 0:13:55And I've got two sisters who are angels.

0:13:55 > 0:13:58They're nurses, both of them.

0:13:58 > 0:14:01And I've got another brother who's learning difficulties.

0:14:01 > 0:14:03He wasn't born right, wouldn't hurt a fly.

0:14:06 > 0:14:09So how does that one turn out, then?

0:14:09 > 0:14:12Half of us bad, half of us good?

0:14:12 > 0:14:14PHONE RINGS

0:14:34 > 0:14:38- WOMAN:- I couldn't believe it when they arrested Coleen, but then I could.

0:14:40 > 0:14:42CAR ALARM BLASTS

0:14:44 > 0:14:47That's Coleen on the left, and Erin, the one who got killed.

0:14:47 > 0:14:51They were arguing because Coleen wanted to get this tattoo,

0:14:51 > 0:14:53and Erin wanted to stay in the pub.

0:14:53 > 0:14:58I feel bad, because I told Erin that Coleen's boyfriend had a love-bite from his ex.

0:14:58 > 0:15:00That's what he told me. Next to his nipple.

0:15:00 > 0:15:03And then Erin was like, "Well, wait to see him and have it out,"

0:15:03 > 0:15:06and Coleen was like, "No, we're going to get this tattoo."

0:15:06 > 0:15:09And Erin's got this temper... Well, they both have.

0:15:09 > 0:15:11And, well, watch.

0:15:13 > 0:15:15Look, catfight!

0:15:17 > 0:15:19And that's the guy that got arrested.

0:15:19 > 0:15:21He comes in and pulls them apart.

0:15:21 > 0:15:25That was those two laughing. and then just scratching eyes out.

0:15:26 > 0:15:29I do love a development.

0:15:29 > 0:15:32We enhanced the video taken off the mobile phone.

0:15:32 > 0:15:35It looks like nothing, but then you see it.

0:15:37 > 0:15:38Look...

0:15:38 > 0:15:39Look, there.

0:15:43 > 0:15:45It's a bloody pool ball!

0:15:53 > 0:15:55I didn't really think I was neutral

0:15:55 > 0:15:58but the police said you didn't have to be neutral to be a witness.

0:15:58 > 0:15:59They'd seen it on YouTube.

0:15:59 > 0:16:02'They said they wished I filmed all the trouble round here.'

0:16:03 > 0:16:05Would have taken Ricky Hatton down, that.

0:16:05 > 0:16:09I was a friend of Coleen's boyfriend, that's why I filmed it.

0:16:09 > 0:16:11Thought he'd think it was funny.

0:16:11 > 0:16:12Now I just don't know.

0:16:16 > 0:16:17She calls me "H".

0:16:17 > 0:16:20She said I don't deserve my full name.

0:16:20 > 0:16:21That's how she treats me.

0:16:21 > 0:16:24One day I'm, like, outcast - the next she can't get enough.

0:16:26 > 0:16:28She must have phoned me 25 times that day.

0:16:28 > 0:16:30- Texts?- I stopped counting.

0:16:30 > 0:16:34I never even looked at the texts, or the voicemail.

0:16:34 > 0:16:36I know what she's like when she's drinking...

0:16:37 > 0:16:40..but then I did have a look.

0:16:40 > 0:16:42And I just thought it was more of her bullshit.

0:16:42 > 0:16:45Yeah, we did have arguments - we're sisters.

0:16:45 > 0:16:48Like the washing up, tattoos, love bites.

0:16:48 > 0:16:50Sometimes, Erin, she needs a slap and she knows it herself.

0:16:50 > 0:16:53Stuff builds up in her. It's for her own good.

0:16:54 > 0:16:57She thought it was funny that H had a love-bite.

0:16:57 > 0:16:59And he gives them to himself. He gives them to himself

0:16:59 > 0:17:02and then says that his ex-girlfriend did them, and she knows that.

0:17:02 > 0:17:03'Fresh thinking.'

0:17:04 > 0:17:08One of those injuries wasn't Stefan...

0:17:08 > 0:17:10at least one. Maybe even the fatal one.

0:17:14 > 0:17:18Like, erm, she worked in Watermeadow Place...

0:17:19 > 0:17:22..in the show home, showing people round.

0:17:22 > 0:17:25She put a deposit on one of the flats there.

0:17:25 > 0:17:27Like we were just going to go and move there.

0:17:27 > 0:17:29- I said, "No way am- I- moving."

0:17:29 > 0:17:34She said, "Why?", I said, "You know why...Mum."

0:17:34 > 0:17:37She said, "Mum'll find us if she comes," but I just said, "No way...

0:17:37 > 0:17:40"No. No way, no way, no way."

0:17:49 > 0:17:52Yeah, she was a rubbish mum but I loved her.

0:17:52 > 0:17:54She couldn't handle us.

0:17:54 > 0:17:58She'd put me in the bathroom and tie the door shut till I calmed down.

0:17:59 > 0:18:01And one day she just left.

0:18:05 > 0:18:07Erin would never go without me.

0:18:09 > 0:18:11And I said to them...

0:18:11 > 0:18:13"If you look at that,

0:18:13 > 0:18:16"it looks as though you're pulling her towards the flat

0:18:16 > 0:18:18"against her will.

0:18:18 > 0:18:21"Like you're doing what he's telling you."

0:18:26 > 0:18:27She didn't answer that.

0:18:29 > 0:18:35I said, "So, you have arguments, and we know you hit her in the pub.

0:18:35 > 0:18:39"What about later on? What about at the flat?

0:18:39 > 0:18:41"Did you hit her there...

0:18:41 > 0:18:44"with the Amaretto bottle? Did you both hit her?"

0:18:44 > 0:18:46No reply.

0:18:46 > 0:18:48I said, "Just say no if you didn't.

0:18:48 > 0:18:50"Otherwise I'll infer that you did."

0:18:52 > 0:18:53No reply.

0:18:53 > 0:18:56I said, "So, I'll infer that you did."

0:18:58 > 0:18:59No reply. I repeated,

0:18:59 > 0:19:04"I'm entitled to infer that you did if you won't say you didn't."

0:19:05 > 0:19:07Silence.

0:19:09 > 0:19:11Long silence.

0:19:11 > 0:19:13I can handle silence...

0:19:13 > 0:19:16she can't outdo me on silence.

0:19:17 > 0:19:20You're looking at the bloke who sits by a river with a rod in his hand

0:19:20 > 0:19:23saying nothing to no-one for days on end.

0:19:25 > 0:19:27Then she just says...

0:19:27 > 0:19:28"I did."

0:19:28 > 0:19:31Two things she could've meant by that...

0:19:31 > 0:19:35first, "I did say that I didn't."

0:19:35 > 0:19:40Second, "I did hit my sister with the bottle later in the flat."

0:19:40 > 0:19:42"Which of those two do you mean?" I said.

0:19:46 > 0:19:49'We're sisters. We argue...'

0:19:51 > 0:19:53'He killed her.'

0:19:53 > 0:19:56Closed up. Moment was gone.

0:19:58 > 0:20:00WOMAN: The pool-ball injury wasn't fatal

0:20:00 > 0:20:02but we found traces of Coleen Lowell's skin

0:20:02 > 0:20:05under Erin's fingernails...

0:20:05 > 0:20:08and traces of Erin's under Coleen's.

0:20:08 > 0:20:11No scratching on the footage taken by the barmaid

0:20:11 > 0:20:14and no scratches visible on either of them here. So...?

0:20:14 > 0:20:17I was arrested at 11 at night...

0:20:17 > 0:20:20I was drunk, I was speeding.

0:20:20 > 0:20:22If I hadn't been doing those things

0:20:22 > 0:20:24then maybe I'd still be a free man now

0:20:24 > 0:20:27cos she never knew my second name or where I was from.

0:20:27 > 0:20:31But the clincher, right? You'll like this - look.

0:20:31 > 0:20:34You spin a bottle, you hold it like this.

0:20:34 > 0:20:36We had both the suspects' prints

0:20:36 > 0:20:39on the Amaretto bottle in this sort of area -

0:20:39 > 0:20:40and the deceased's.

0:20:40 > 0:20:44But if you want to kill someone with it, this is how you hold it.

0:20:44 > 0:20:46Big heavy thing, that Amaretto bottle.

0:20:48 > 0:20:54Whose fingerprints you think we found round this section?

0:20:54 > 0:20:56Both of them.

0:20:56 > 0:20:59Oh, yeah, we upset her, me and Coleen.

0:20:59 > 0:21:01We had sex and she didn't like it.

0:21:01 > 0:21:04She hit the fucking roof - thought me and her should be doing it.

0:21:04 > 0:21:06Well, that was the way they'd fucking worked it anyway.

0:21:06 > 0:21:08So, she lost the plot completely -

0:21:08 > 0:21:10started screaming, shouting, scratching out

0:21:10 > 0:21:12but we never fucking killed her!

0:21:12 > 0:21:14She was a virgin and she thought her moment had come,

0:21:14 > 0:21:17but he couldn't keep his hands off me.

0:21:17 > 0:21:19- MAN:- Joint enterprise - R v Swindall and Osborne, 1846.

0:21:19 > 0:21:22Two cart drivers were racing, pedestrian got killed.

0:21:22 > 0:21:23They wouldn't say which hit him.

0:21:23 > 0:21:27Since both were "equally encouraging the other in the race"

0:21:27 > 0:21:30it was deemed irrelevant which of them had actually struck the man.

0:21:30 > 0:21:32Joint enterprise.

0:21:32 > 0:21:33Joint enterprise?

0:21:33 > 0:21:37Till they get to court, that is. Then it's cut-throat.

0:21:37 > 0:21:39What, I encouraged her and she encouraged me

0:21:39 > 0:21:42and together we killed her sister?!

0:21:42 > 0:21:43Fuck me.

0:21:49 > 0:21:51He'll have no godfather now.

0:21:53 > 0:21:57Stefan Hollick, 25, of Springhill, Doncaster.

0:22:02 > 0:22:04All this, it could bring her back.

0:22:04 > 0:22:07Coleen Lowell, 23,

0:22:07 > 0:22:11Flat 4/5, Caxton House, Vernon Road, Basford, Nottingham.

0:22:42 > 0:22:44So this is the story of what's just happened.

0:22:44 > 0:22:46I said, "When the Detective Inspector asked you

0:22:46 > 0:22:47"if you'd hit your sister at the flat,

0:22:47 > 0:22:49"why did you make no clear reply?"

0:22:51 > 0:22:55I said, "Stefan Hollick is a man of violence."

0:22:55 > 0:22:58I showed her the documents. She could be in no doubt.

0:22:58 > 0:23:03I said, "It was you that said not to accept the drinks from him.

0:23:03 > 0:23:05"It was you that wanted to leave the pub and go and get the tattoo.

0:23:05 > 0:23:07"It was you that said to ignore him.

0:23:07 > 0:23:09"On all counts your instincts were proved right

0:23:09 > 0:23:12"and tragedy followed because your instincts were overruled.

0:23:12 > 0:23:14"It's an absurdity that they've got you here.

0:23:14 > 0:23:16"Why did you make no clear reply to DI Sheehy's question?"

0:23:16 > 0:23:19She said, "Because I hit her." I said "Yes, you did..."

0:23:20 > 0:23:23I said, "We've all seen that.

0:23:23 > 0:23:26"We've all seen that on the video footage from the pub,

0:23:26 > 0:23:28"on Deena Pritchard's camera phone.

0:23:28 > 0:23:30"It forms part of the evidence against you.

0:23:30 > 0:23:34"She said, "No," but I said, "Yes, I'm afraid so.

0:23:34 > 0:23:37"It's there for all to see on the camera phone.

0:23:37 > 0:23:39"There's no getting away from it."

0:23:40 > 0:23:42Oh.

0:23:43 > 0:23:45I said, "The boyfriend, H...

0:23:47 > 0:23:49"..another man of violence -

0:23:49 > 0:23:51"are you protecting him?"

0:23:53 > 0:23:55She looked at me then.

0:23:55 > 0:23:58I said, "The bite mark, the bite mark on your sister's arm...

0:24:00 > 0:24:02"..not a playful bite. A deep bite.

0:24:02 > 0:24:03"A bloody bite...

0:24:05 > 0:24:07"Two men of violence...

0:24:07 > 0:24:10"Two men who like to hurt women."

0:24:11 > 0:24:15I said, "Should I get that bite mark forensically examined?"

0:24:16 > 0:24:18She had a tear in the corner of each eye,

0:24:18 > 0:24:21she didn't trust herself to speak, but she nodded.

0:24:21 > 0:24:23I said, "In that case, I will."

0:24:23 > 0:24:25I never bit no-one.

0:24:25 > 0:24:27There's no way they can make me take that test.

0:24:27 > 0:24:28Tooth's broke anyhow.

0:24:32 > 0:24:34The bite mark is hers.

0:24:38 > 0:24:40HE WHISPERS

0:24:40 > 0:24:43"I have a confession to make...

0:24:43 > 0:24:46"I have a confession to make... I have a confession to make, my Lord.

0:24:46 > 0:24:48"I have a confession to make, my Lord.

0:24:48 > 0:24:51"I bit my wife...

0:24:51 > 0:24:53"I have a confession to make, my Lord.

0:24:53 > 0:24:55"I bit my wife last night...

0:24:57 > 0:25:00"I have a confession to make, my Lord. I bit my wife last night...

0:25:02 > 0:25:06"..but I can assure you my intention was very far from murderous."

0:25:08 > 0:25:11It'll make the jury uncomfortable but they won't forget it.

0:25:15 > 0:25:18"The prosecution are going to worm things out of you in court

0:25:18 > 0:25:22"and you're going to look like a nasty liar, so tell me them now."

0:25:22 > 0:25:23That's my brief.

0:25:23 > 0:25:26Aka, he already thinks I look like a nasty little liar

0:25:26 > 0:25:29and he doesn't want me living up to appearances.

0:25:30 > 0:25:33I'm a decorated fucking war hero.

0:25:33 > 0:25:36He says, "Yeah, yeah, no, we'll make sure they're aware of that."

0:25:38 > 0:25:41Coleen wanted me to have sex with her sister.

0:25:41 > 0:25:42She was a virgin.

0:25:44 > 0:25:46So I said, "I will if I can have you first."

0:25:47 > 0:25:49"Yeah, that's in your statement to the police," he said.

0:25:49 > 0:25:51I said, "Patience...

0:25:52 > 0:25:55"After Erin caught us at it, she went and fetched a kitchen knife,

0:25:55 > 0:25:57"chased Coleen into the bathroom

0:25:57 > 0:26:01"and then tied the washing line round the door handle.

0:26:01 > 0:26:04I tried to get her to do it then, but she'd changed her mind..."

0:26:07 > 0:26:10"Are you saying you tried to rape Erin Lowell?"

0:26:10 > 0:26:12"Well, I was pretty far past fucking base camp with her sister

0:26:12 > 0:26:14"when all hell broke loose. How would YOU feel?"

0:26:15 > 0:26:18"Are you saying you tried to rape Erin Lowell...?"

0:26:19 > 0:26:22"She wanted to have sex with me...

0:26:22 > 0:26:23"They both wanted that."

0:26:25 > 0:26:27"But did you try and rape her?"

0:26:30 > 0:26:32"Well, I won't be making that mistake again.

0:26:32 > 0:26:34"She'd kept that knife nice and handy."

0:26:34 > 0:26:36"And what did you do to her...?"

0:26:39 > 0:26:42He said, "Do you really think they're not going to ask you this in court?"

0:26:43 > 0:26:45Right, "I pushed her on the bed."

0:26:45 > 0:26:47He's like, "The bed where she was found dead?"

0:26:47 > 0:26:51I felt like saying, "Whose fucking side are you on?

0:26:51 > 0:26:52"I don't know where she was found dead

0:26:52 > 0:26:55"cos she was live and kicking when I left that flat."

0:26:58 > 0:26:59"Anything else...?"

0:27:01 > 0:27:04"Yeah, I might have given her a slap or two."

0:27:04 > 0:27:06"Now when you say, 'a slap'..."

0:27:06 > 0:27:08I said, "I mean a slap.

0:27:08 > 0:27:10"She tried to fucking stab me with that knife..."

0:27:11 > 0:27:13"And what did you do...?"

0:27:15 > 0:27:19"I ran...and I stole Erin Lowell's handbag from the hallway..."

0:27:21 > 0:27:23"But you didn't kill her?" he says.

0:27:23 > 0:27:25"No, I didn't kill her."

0:27:27 > 0:27:28"You've told me everything?"

0:27:28 > 0:27:31"I've told you everything." "Do you feel better?"

0:27:31 > 0:27:33I said, "What kind of a cunt steals a woman's handbag

0:27:33 > 0:27:35"after trying to rape her?"

0:27:38 > 0:27:40He says, "A thief and a rapist."

0:27:45 > 0:27:48She came to me in a dream and said, "Scatter my ashes there."

0:27:49 > 0:27:51Mum, not Erin.

0:28:04 > 0:28:06I got a visiting order.

0:28:06 > 0:28:08I thought it was someone's sick joke at first.

0:28:08 > 0:28:10It said, "Ms E Lowell."

0:28:10 > 0:28:13All I could think was Erin...

0:28:13 > 0:28:15Erin coming to visit me.

0:28:21 > 0:28:25The girl in the next cell did my hair and nails, erm,

0:28:25 > 0:28:27and lent me these trousers.

0:28:27 > 0:28:30The top, my friend from work brought in, shoes I had.

0:28:38 > 0:28:40Didn't know if she'd want to see me.

0:28:40 > 0:28:42I haven't been in contact.

0:28:43 > 0:28:45Very often I was about to, but...

0:28:47 > 0:28:51She might only want to see me to tell me to go to hell!

0:28:51 > 0:28:53The mother and child reunion.

0:28:53 > 0:28:55You know, I said to Erin,

0:28:55 > 0:28:57I said and I said, and I said, "She'll be back.

0:28:57 > 0:28:59"She'll be back..."

0:28:59 > 0:29:01And now here she is!

0:29:01 > 0:29:03Coleen hasn't seen her mother since she was 14...

0:29:05 > 0:29:09..but every time she mentioned her she just glowed -

0:29:09 > 0:29:10she was 14 again.

0:29:10 > 0:29:15I'm thinking, "I need this woman in the public gallery."

0:29:15 > 0:29:17Oh, yeah, we could all get our fucking mothers in!

0:29:17 > 0:29:18You think that's justice?

0:29:18 > 0:29:20"My mum says I didn't do it"?!

0:29:21 > 0:29:22Fuck off.

0:29:26 > 0:29:28No, actually, knowing my mum, she would probably say,

0:29:28 > 0:29:31"Yeah, well, he might have done, yeah."

0:29:34 > 0:29:36I was a fuck-up as a mum...

0:29:39 > 0:29:41I don't know if she'll want to see me.

0:29:41 > 0:29:46I've thought about this day a million times...

0:29:46 > 0:29:49What would I say? At first I had loads of questions but not now.

0:29:51 > 0:29:53I know what I'm going to say.

0:29:53 > 0:29:56I'm just going to say, "Don't ever go away again."

0:30:10 > 0:30:12They were cruel to each other.

0:30:12 > 0:30:15They said cruel things ABOUT each other.

0:30:15 > 0:30:18"You're fat." "You look like a man."

0:30:18 > 0:30:21"You look like a lesbian."

0:30:21 > 0:30:26"Your skin looks like meat," Erin said once...to her sister.

0:30:28 > 0:30:31Whatever they could think of to hurt the other one the most.

0:30:33 > 0:30:35I didn't know what to do.

0:30:35 > 0:30:37Always fighting.

0:30:38 > 0:30:41What should a mother do?

0:30:43 > 0:30:47I'd been diagnosed with cancer. I needed to tell them.

0:30:47 > 0:30:52When I came home from work, they were pulling each other's hair out.

0:30:52 > 0:30:56Great clumps of hair. Fighting.

0:30:56 > 0:31:01Biting. Kicking. There was blood.

0:31:01 > 0:31:05I told Erin I'd started my period and she didn't believe me.

0:31:05 > 0:31:08I showed her the pad, and she said that weren't menstrual blood,

0:31:08 > 0:31:10that I'd cut myself and put it on there.

0:31:10 > 0:31:14They didn't hear me shouting, so I thought,

0:31:14 > 0:31:17"Well, I'll go round the park for ten minutes." That was all.

0:31:17 > 0:31:19"And then when I come back home they'll be calm,

0:31:19 > 0:31:23"and I'll be able to tell them what I need to tell them."

0:31:23 > 0:31:27So I said, "Where have I cut myself then? Where, where?"

0:31:27 > 0:31:29I was pulling my clothes off. "Where?"

0:31:31 > 0:31:33So I did go round the park.

0:31:33 > 0:31:35And then I went in The Royal.

0:31:36 > 0:31:39And when I came out of The Royal...

0:31:39 > 0:31:41I got on a bus.

0:31:50 > 0:31:52It's not like I stood there waiting at the bus stop.

0:31:52 > 0:31:54It was there already when I came out.

0:31:56 > 0:32:00A bus looks cheerful in the dark, lit up inside.

0:32:02 > 0:32:04But when I got off the bus,

0:32:04 > 0:32:08I got on another one that went to Derby.

0:32:08 > 0:32:10And that one I DID wait for.

0:32:10 > 0:32:15I was walking along the Ashbourne Road, and I was thinking,

0:32:15 > 0:32:17"Ashbourne Road begins with an A.

0:32:17 > 0:32:21"I'll just keep walking until I see a road that begins with a Z."

0:32:22 > 0:32:25I stuck out my thumb.

0:32:25 > 0:32:28A lorry driver came. Straight away.

0:32:28 > 0:32:30Just like how the bus was right there.

0:32:32 > 0:32:34He was going to Carlisle.

0:32:42 > 0:32:44It was very quiet after.

0:32:45 > 0:32:48We slept in Mum's bed that night.

0:32:51 > 0:32:56We got taken into care. Fostered.

0:32:56 > 0:32:58Apart.

0:32:58 > 0:33:01I ran away back to the flat to see if Mum had come back.

0:33:03 > 0:33:07But I didn't have a key. I could see in.

0:33:09 > 0:33:12All our things were still in there.

0:33:12 > 0:33:14The woman who was fostering me,

0:33:14 > 0:33:17she said they'd have given the flat to another family, but they hadn't.

0:33:17 > 0:33:19That's how I knew she was coming home.

0:33:21 > 0:33:26We did get back to the flat. Erin got to 17. They said she could look after me.

0:33:32 > 0:33:34It's high-risk, having them meet.

0:33:35 > 0:33:37Not that I could prevent it.

0:33:37 > 0:33:41Coleen's waited nine years for this, and she's never given up hope.

0:33:41 > 0:33:45Her mother's like the Virgin Mary and Cheryl Cole rolled into one for her.

0:33:45 > 0:33:51Things go well, she'll glow with 100 watts of innocence right through the trial,

0:33:51 > 0:33:54and we'll blow everyone else out of the water.

0:33:54 > 0:33:58Things go badly, I'm not sure she'll even care if they send her down.

0:34:20 > 0:34:22COLEEN SOBS

0:34:41 > 0:34:47There is something about being locked out of your own flat and looking in.

0:34:51 > 0:34:54It's like being dead.

0:34:58 > 0:35:00COLEEN WHIMPERS

0:35:02 > 0:35:08'I talked to her. She's amazing. She's beautiful. Like Erin.

0:35:12 > 0:35:14'I said, "I knew you were coming back."

0:35:15 > 0:35:17'Erin said you were dead, but I knew you weren't.

0:35:17 > 0:35:19'I knew you loved us and you wanted to come back,

0:35:19 > 0:35:22'but something meant that you couldn't.

0:35:22 > 0:35:26'And everything I said, she was just like,

0:35:26 > 0:35:28' "Yeah, that's it, that's it." '

0:35:31 > 0:35:34She understood. She could see it.

0:35:34 > 0:35:39I knew everything there was to know about her. And she understood me.

0:35:40 > 0:35:43I told her everything that happened -

0:35:43 > 0:35:46Erin wanting to go and live at Watermeadow Place

0:35:46 > 0:35:49and the day it all happened,

0:35:49 > 0:35:50and me thinking,

0:35:50 > 0:35:54"If she just wasn't a virgin, she wouldn't be wanting to go.

0:35:54 > 0:35:58"She'd have moved on in herself and she'd be happy where she was."

0:35:58 > 0:36:01And everything that happened because of that. And she understood me.

0:36:01 > 0:36:05I'm not saying she's faultless. She made a mistake, and it was this -

0:36:05 > 0:36:08she allowed her resentment at Erin's refusal to take her advice

0:36:08 > 0:36:11to get the better of her and she sided - briefly but significantly -

0:36:11 > 0:36:13with Hollick, and she goaded her sister.

0:36:13 > 0:36:17If there was joint enterprise of any kind between Stefan and Coleen,

0:36:17 > 0:36:19it was to that end and that end only.

0:36:19 > 0:36:23Relieving her 27-year-old sister of her burdensome virginity.

0:36:23 > 0:36:25She said it wasn't my fault, it was HER fault.

0:36:28 > 0:36:30She said it couldn't be helped.

0:36:30 > 0:36:32It...it COULDN'T be helped.

0:36:34 > 0:36:36We cried together for Erin.

0:36:38 > 0:36:40First time I've cried since that night.

0:36:44 > 0:36:48When she was going, she held my hand.

0:36:58 > 0:37:00She smells the same.

0:37:06 > 0:37:10She's going to pray for me. Pray they let me go.

0:37:13 > 0:37:15Sisters don't kill sisters.

0:37:15 > 0:37:18Google it - "sister killing sister".

0:37:18 > 0:37:23You get Cleopatra, Roman legends, some Icelandic rock band.

0:37:23 > 0:37:28Sisters don't kill sisters. Sororicide, it happens. Their brothers kill them.

0:37:28 > 0:37:33Sometimes they kill their brothers. But sisters? Google it.

0:37:34 > 0:37:38Actually, don't Google it till after the trial.

0:37:38 > 0:37:41My mum, right... My brother, OK, fair enough,

0:37:41 > 0:37:43deep down he's not as much of a cunt as I am,

0:37:43 > 0:37:46but with her, it's like we're Cain and Abel and I'm the...

0:37:46 > 0:37:49You know, which one's the bad motherfucker?

0:37:49 > 0:37:52Well, that's how she sees it.

0:37:52 > 0:37:56And what fucks me off the most, right, is that I'm the one who tries.

0:37:58 > 0:38:02He doesn't give a shit, him. Like, Mother's Day. "What? What's that?"

0:38:02 > 0:38:06Yeah? I'm sending her flowers from Afghani-fucking-stan,

0:38:06 > 0:38:09and he lives three streets away poncing off her wage packet

0:38:09 > 0:38:11but he's the one with the sunshiny arsehole.

0:38:16 > 0:38:19Not when I got my leg blown off. She says to me,

0:38:21 > 0:38:24' "Well, they're not going to want you now, are they?" '

0:38:24 > 0:38:27HELICOPTER WHIRRS AND SOLDIERS SHOUT

0:38:27 > 0:38:30Would you catch me saying something like that to my godson?

0:38:30 > 0:38:31'Move back, move back!'

0:38:31 > 0:38:33'Fuck off.'

0:38:42 > 0:38:44Bring it on.

0:39:14 > 0:39:18Murder stops time. It's like musical chairs.

0:39:18 > 0:39:21One minute there's music and running around, and the next - bang -

0:39:21 > 0:39:23there's not enough room for someone, they're gone.

0:39:23 > 0:39:27Everything that was going on before, all that merry dance,

0:39:27 > 0:39:32all that fiasco we call life, now you have to make sense of it.

0:39:33 > 0:39:36At least, that's the job of the prosecution.

0:39:36 > 0:39:38I won't see my godson just yet.

0:39:39 > 0:39:43They don't want him in a place like this. I can see that.

0:39:45 > 0:39:48Not that he IS my godson yet. He's not even been christened yet.

0:39:48 > 0:39:52Not even welcomed into the family of Christ until I'm out of here.

0:39:54 > 0:39:56In limbo is what he is.

0:39:58 > 0:39:59Waiting.

0:39:59 > 0:40:03'Every day she sat there. Every day.'

0:40:03 > 0:40:07Stayed right to the end, right till the judge sent the jury out.

0:40:07 > 0:40:08She'll be there now.

0:40:08 > 0:40:12Not in the public gallery, they empty that,

0:40:12 > 0:40:15but maybe in, like, a caff round the corner.

0:40:17 > 0:40:19Waiting for the jury to come out.

0:40:19 > 0:40:22Waiting for the verdict, same as me.

0:40:22 > 0:40:25Wondering what it's going to be.

0:40:26 > 0:40:28Wondering what she'll say to me.

0:40:30 > 0:40:32Wondering if we'll live together again.

0:40:36 > 0:40:39I saw once, er, where a tennis player won a match

0:40:39 > 0:40:44and he climbed up through the crowd to his dad, right up in the stand.

0:40:45 > 0:40:46That's what I'll be like.

0:40:46 > 0:40:49If the jury comes back in and the judge asks their decision

0:40:49 > 0:40:53and they say, "Coleen Lowell - not guilty," that's what I'll be like.

0:40:53 > 0:40:54Straight to Mum.

0:40:54 > 0:40:57I plotted a simple line. I held to it. I stayed above the fray.

0:40:57 > 0:40:59She was glowing, I was glowing.

0:40:59 > 0:41:04All the time, above my head, like a banner, "Sisters don't kill sisters."

0:41:04 > 0:41:05'She's nailed-on guilty.'

0:41:05 > 0:41:09I don't care what Arlo fucking-Raglin says.

0:41:15 > 0:41:17I saw him in the gents'.

0:41:19 > 0:41:22When I was at school, there was a kid.

0:41:22 > 0:41:28When you were having a piss, he'd walk along the line at the urinal -

0:41:28 > 0:41:31five, six, seven of you taking a leak -

0:41:31 > 0:41:34give each of you a push.

0:41:34 > 0:41:38Just a little push, but you'd be covered in piss.

0:41:40 > 0:41:43That's what came back to me when I saw him in the gents.

0:41:50 > 0:41:54'What I keep thinking about, erm, I was in a band once.

0:41:54 > 0:41:56'You know, for about two weeks.'

0:41:56 > 0:42:02And, erm, anyway when you go on stage in a pub or whatever and they dim the lights down,

0:42:02 > 0:42:06just for a minute, people shut up and they look at you.

0:42:07 > 0:42:10Right, and you plug your guitar in and you get this...

0:42:10 > 0:42:16All of a sudden, this quite loud, kind of buzz and crackle and clunk.

0:42:16 > 0:42:18You know, you're wired up.

0:42:19 > 0:42:22And you're stood there and you're thinking,

0:42:22 > 0:42:26"Fucking hell! The possibilities."

0:42:32 > 0:42:34Yeah, so that's what I keep thinking about.

0:42:34 > 0:42:39- HE SPITS - Who puts pips in grapes now?

0:42:39 > 0:42:42BELL CHIMES

0:42:42 > 0:42:45A great leveller - piss in your pants.

0:42:48 > 0:42:52My wife gives me these, otherwise I eat Pringles.

0:42:56 > 0:42:58"Sisters don't kill sisters," he says.

0:43:00 > 0:43:01Well, this one did.

0:43:04 > 0:43:07The next best thing to pissing his pants...

0:43:07 > 0:43:11boyfriend of the accused, Heskett Jupp.

0:43:11 > 0:43:14That took the smile off his face.

0:43:14 > 0:43:17It was like I blocked it out of my mind.

0:43:17 > 0:43:21He saw the two of them together. The sisters, on the bed.

0:43:23 > 0:43:26After Stefan had fled, you know, the co-accused.

0:43:26 > 0:43:28Like they were waiting.

0:43:28 > 0:43:31He'd never told anyone. Not even Coleen.

0:43:32 > 0:43:35Blurted out of him in court.

0:43:35 > 0:43:37One alive, one dead on the mother's bed.

0:43:39 > 0:43:41Court went quiet.

0:43:41 > 0:43:46Raglin, face like a smacked arse.

0:43:46 > 0:43:50There it was, out there like someone else had said it. DOG BARKS

0:43:50 > 0:43:54Stefan Hollick's lawyer says, "When was the last time you saw Erin Lowell alive?"

0:43:54 > 0:43:58And I just... I said, "She was on the bed, but she was dead then."

0:43:58 > 0:44:00"What bed, where?"

0:44:00 > 0:44:04"In Coleen's mum's room, lying there with Coleen." "When was this?"

0:44:04 > 0:44:08"The night she died." "What time?" "About ten."

0:44:08 > 0:44:11Just... Just like they were waiting.

0:44:11 > 0:44:13Everything went quiet.

0:44:13 > 0:44:17And then they just started tearing through those pages in them binders what they have.

0:44:17 > 0:44:20"You were there at the flat on the night," he said.

0:44:21 > 0:44:23Just a LITTLE push.

0:44:23 > 0:44:28"Was I? Yeah, yeah, I was. Yeah, I WAS there."

0:44:28 > 0:44:30Then I looked at Coleen.

0:44:30 > 0:44:34"Heskett Jupp." I thought, "Heskett Jupp, not H."

0:44:36 > 0:44:38CHILDREN SHOUT IN BACKGROUND

0:44:40 > 0:44:44- I'm going!- Stefan's brief asked me what I said to that.

0:44:44 > 0:44:46I said, "I don't say anything to that."

0:44:46 > 0:44:48He kept on.

0:44:48 > 0:44:51"What's your reaction to what the witness said?"

0:44:52 > 0:44:55Nothing. Nothing.

0:44:57 > 0:44:59Silence.

0:45:04 > 0:45:06Then she said, "It's true."

0:45:07 > 0:45:09Nothing quite like the sight of a highly paid QC

0:45:09 > 0:45:14with a dead sheep on his head trying to summon up a shit-eating smile.

0:45:14 > 0:45:16Rethink.

0:45:16 > 0:45:18Raglin gets his wits about him.

0:45:18 > 0:45:22He starts trying to unsettle the whole thing to suit him.

0:45:22 > 0:45:24Crown seems very surprised by this.

0:45:24 > 0:45:28Perhaps they'd like to take some time to consider developments.

0:45:28 > 0:45:31Fuck you, Raglin.

0:45:31 > 0:45:33Answer the fucking question.

0:45:35 > 0:45:39Why was she cowering in the bathroom when PC Sinton arrived

0:45:39 > 0:45:42if she was lying on the bed 20 minutes before?

0:45:42 > 0:45:45The Crown couldn't give too much credence to what he said or it would

0:45:45 > 0:45:48look like a most catastrophic oversight on their part.

0:45:48 > 0:45:50Did he answer the question?

0:45:51 > 0:45:55There was a lot of... hurried scrabbling back

0:45:55 > 0:45:58through witness statements and the interviews.

0:45:58 > 0:46:01- Did he fuck! - His honour suggested a short recess.

0:46:01 > 0:46:03He asked for a recess.

0:46:03 > 0:46:04Rethink. Regroup.

0:46:04 > 0:46:08Give the man credit - he knows a turning point.

0:46:08 > 0:46:10I think of something untouched by this.

0:46:10 > 0:46:15Like stinking cells, the shit people do to each other, lies they tell.

0:46:15 > 0:46:17What is it?

0:46:17 > 0:46:18A baby.

0:46:18 > 0:46:21A newborn baby, think of that.

0:46:21 > 0:46:24One, right, I'm a man of violence.

0:46:24 > 0:46:27How many times have I heard that in the last three weeks?

0:46:27 > 0:46:28I was a soldier for eight years,

0:46:28 > 0:46:31you don't get the medals I've got frothing milk.

0:46:31 > 0:46:33Two, the leg.

0:46:33 > 0:46:36I'm sensitive about the leg, I've got a short fuse.

0:46:38 > 0:46:40You know, I am sensitive about the fucking leg, as it happens.

0:46:40 > 0:46:43But it wasn't Erin who called me a cripple, it was my "co-defendant".

0:46:43 > 0:46:45So what does that prove?

0:46:45 > 0:46:48Three, my so-called brief.

0:46:49 > 0:46:52Right, having him defending me and Raglin defending her,

0:46:52 > 0:46:56that's like putting pea-shooters up against fucking Iron Man.

0:46:58 > 0:47:01Yeah, sisters don't kill sisters.

0:47:01 > 0:47:04It might not be true, but at least it's fucking memorable.

0:47:04 > 0:47:08Rethink. Regroup. Return. Here are some questions.

0:47:08 > 0:47:11H said he peeped in at the bedroom door

0:47:11 > 0:47:14and saw Erin dead on the bed, with Coleen beside her.

0:47:14 > 0:47:16How could he tell she was dead? He peeped in and ran away.

0:47:16 > 0:47:19How could he tell that Stefan Hollick had already departed?

0:47:19 > 0:47:21Good questions. Did I ask them? I did not.

0:47:21 > 0:47:24I asked a different question, and then I answered it.

0:47:24 > 0:47:27Why was Coleen in the bathroom when the police arrived?

0:47:27 > 0:47:29Finally.

0:47:29 > 0:47:33Because, when Coleen broke out of the bathroom where Stefan Hollick

0:47:33 > 0:47:37had imprisoned her, she found her sister dead on the floor.

0:47:37 > 0:47:40Naked. Dead.

0:47:40 > 0:47:42I thought of Mum.

0:47:42 > 0:47:44She thought of her mum.

0:47:44 > 0:47:48Her mum, who's here today - as she is every day -

0:47:48 > 0:47:52standing by her wrongly accused daughter.

0:47:52 > 0:47:54The dead woman's naked body -

0:47:54 > 0:47:58what they always say, in newspapers, on the radio.

0:47:58 > 0:48:01I used to think that about Mum.

0:48:02 > 0:48:04I didn't want that to be her.

0:48:04 > 0:48:07I did not want that to be Erin, either.

0:48:07 > 0:48:10Incredulous, and inconsolable...

0:48:14 > 0:48:17I bit her to wake her up.

0:48:19 > 0:48:21Bit her hard.

0:48:21 > 0:48:26My client put a dress on her sister and laid her on their mother's bed.

0:48:26 > 0:48:29I thought I heard him.

0:48:29 > 0:48:32And then she heard a sound, the sound of the door.

0:48:32 > 0:48:36Perhaps it was the sound of H scuttling off into the night.

0:48:36 > 0:48:37Coming back.

0:48:37 > 0:48:41Or perhaps it was the sound of someone coming back?

0:48:41 > 0:48:44Stefan Hollick, coming back.

0:48:44 > 0:48:49For his jacket, for his wallet, for who knows what else?

0:48:49 > 0:48:51Beside herself with fear,

0:48:51 > 0:48:56Coleen did something that she is deeply ashamed of.

0:48:56 > 0:49:00She abandoned her dead sister.

0:49:02 > 0:49:04I left her on the bed.

0:49:06 > 0:49:08I hid in the bathroom.

0:49:11 > 0:49:14I thought he was coming, I called the police.

0:49:16 > 0:49:18You may think that's forgivable.

0:49:19 > 0:49:21Coleen Lowell doesn't.

0:49:22 > 0:49:25Give the man credit, that was class.

0:49:26 > 0:49:29And that, right there, that's where I won the case.

0:49:30 > 0:49:34When they arrived, the police had to break down the bathroom door.

0:49:34 > 0:49:37We could have done without the fucking mother.

0:49:57 > 0:49:59He's not my nephew.

0:50:00 > 0:50:01He's my son.

0:50:03 > 0:50:06My brother was away on a job when he was conceived,

0:50:06 > 0:50:08but he hadn't worked that out.

0:50:09 > 0:50:11She didn't want him to.

0:50:12 > 0:50:15She told him the baby was premature, but it wasn't.

0:50:16 > 0:50:19He came in here, actually, came to break it to me

0:50:19 > 0:50:21that they were going ahead with the christening.

0:50:21 > 0:50:23That they couldn't wait now. You know, not now.

0:50:26 > 0:50:28She wrote to me, begging me not to tell him.

0:50:30 > 0:50:31I just showed him the letter.

0:50:33 > 0:50:36Yeah, that was a short visit. Won't be repeated.

0:50:53 > 0:50:55He'll never be able to look at that boy

0:50:55 > 0:50:58without seeing me shagging his wife.

0:51:01 > 0:51:04The man she was living with died and left her some money.

0:51:04 > 0:51:06I said, "This is where Erin wanted to live.

0:51:06 > 0:51:10"This is where you told me in a dream to scatter Erin's ashes."

0:51:10 > 0:51:12And she said, "This is where we'll live.

0:51:14 > 0:51:17"There's two flats left, we're going to look round them both."

0:51:17 > 0:51:19And we're getting the tattoos -

0:51:19 > 0:51:22the one me and Erin were going to get.

0:51:22 > 0:51:24She wanted to take one last look around the flat on her own.

0:51:24 > 0:51:26I've arranged everything here.

0:51:26 > 0:51:29In court they wanted to know why his fingerprints

0:51:29 > 0:51:32were on the neck of the bottle.

0:51:32 > 0:51:34He said he'd used it to batter at the bathroom door.

0:51:34 > 0:51:38He wanted his jacket back, the photos of his godson.

0:51:39 > 0:51:42I'm one of those people that other people like kicking.

0:51:42 > 0:51:47I'm talking about my old man, teachers at school,

0:51:47 > 0:51:49coppers, obviously,

0:51:49 > 0:51:52officers in the army, the fucking Taliban,

0:51:52 > 0:51:55Coleen Lowell and her smartarse lawyer.

0:51:55 > 0:51:58And my brother, now that he's found out,

0:51:58 > 0:52:00and his slapper of a fucking so-called wife.

0:52:02 > 0:52:04I started thinking, do you know what?

0:52:04 > 0:52:08I am sick of getting up just to get kicked back down again.

0:52:10 > 0:52:13And in here, right, there's loads of people like me.

0:52:13 > 0:52:15People who've taken a kicking.

0:52:15 > 0:52:18And not just one kicking - I'm talking about a lifetime of kicking.

0:52:23 > 0:52:27They've got someone else now, doing the showing-round. She knew Erin.

0:52:27 > 0:52:28She's going to show us round.

0:52:28 > 0:52:32Whether he did it or not, I'm not really sure any more.

0:52:35 > 0:52:37But SHE did.

0:52:39 > 0:52:41But then, who am I to judge?

0:52:56 > 0:52:57SCREAMING AND GIGGLING

0:53:00 > 0:53:01Bitch!

0:53:06 > 0:53:07Open the door!

0:53:07 > 0:53:09Right...

0:53:11 > 0:53:14You can stay in there, you cow!

0:53:14 > 0:53:17- Grow up, Erin.- Fucking slag.

0:53:17 > 0:53:19Open the door.

0:53:19 > 0:53:20What were you doing?!

0:53:20 > 0:53:22LAUGHING: Shit.

0:53:22 > 0:53:23You're joking.

0:53:23 > 0:53:27RATTLING THE DOOR

0:53:27 > 0:53:29- What were you doing with her? - What you got a knife for?

0:53:29 > 0:53:31- Eh?!- All right, fucking calm down.

0:53:31 > 0:53:34- Why didn't you wait for me? - Have you gone fucking mad?

0:53:34 > 0:53:36- What's he doing to you?! - Put the knife down.

0:53:36 > 0:53:38Why didn't you wait for me?

0:53:38 > 0:53:40Come in here, come on, we'll talk about it.

0:53:40 > 0:53:42Open the fuck... Open the door!

0:53:43 > 0:53:45Let me out!

0:53:47 > 0:53:49You like messing about with knives, do you?

0:53:51 > 0:53:53Erin!

0:53:53 > 0:53:55I'll show you how to fucking play!

0:53:57 > 0:53:59Open it! Open the door!

0:54:01 > 0:54:03Stefan!

0:54:12 > 0:54:14Erin!

0:54:16 > 0:54:17Leave her alone.

0:54:20 > 0:54:22Coleen?

0:54:27 > 0:54:31What are you doing? What's going on?

0:54:31 > 0:54:33Coleen, will you give me my jacket back?

0:54:33 > 0:54:36Give me my fucking jacket back, you little slag!

0:54:36 > 0:54:39You think I'm fucking pissing about?!

0:54:44 > 0:54:46I'm not scared of you! You can piss off home!

0:54:46 > 0:54:50- Go!- You fucking stay there! - Get out or I'll fucking kill you!

0:54:50 > 0:54:53You want me to do some damage, I'll do you some fucking damage!

0:54:53 > 0:54:55GET OUT!

0:54:56 > 0:54:58Erin, get him out!

0:54:59 > 0:55:01I'm going.

0:55:02 > 0:55:04Fuck off, you're fucking mad, you are!

0:55:04 > 0:55:07I haven't forgotten about that fucking jacket!

0:55:07 > 0:55:09Get out!

0:55:11 > 0:55:13Let me out.

0:55:13 > 0:55:16You can rot in there waiting for Mum...

0:55:16 > 0:55:18who's dead, by the way!

0:55:18 > 0:55:21- You don't know that!- You ruined it!

0:55:21 > 0:55:25You ruined everything - you always fucking do!

0:55:25 > 0:55:28- No, YOU'VE ruined everything! - I fucking hate you!

0:55:31 > 0:55:34- She's dead!- You don't know that!

0:55:34 > 0:55:36I'm never looking at you, never!

0:55:36 > 0:55:38Not dead!

0:55:38 > 0:55:40That's our mother!

0:55:41 > 0:55:44You don't know anything!

0:55:44 > 0:55:46She's not, she's not fucking dead!

0:55:46 > 0:55:48Erin?

0:55:48 > 0:55:50She's dead, she's dead, she's dead!

0:55:50 > 0:55:53You take that back, what you said about Mum.

0:55:53 > 0:55:55She's dead!

0:55:55 > 0:55:59She's dead! She's dead! She's DEAD!

0:55:59 > 0:56:02SCREAMING

0:56:10 > 0:56:12Erin...?

0:56:14 > 0:56:16Did I want to appeal?

0:56:17 > 0:56:19There were grounds for it, they said.

0:56:19 > 0:56:22I felt like saying, "Do you know what?

0:56:22 > 0:56:25"People don't seem to find me that fucking appealing."

0:56:26 > 0:56:28I can see why Erin liked showing people round here.

0:56:28 > 0:56:30I can see why she wanted to live here.

0:56:43 > 0:56:45I never wanted to come see it.

0:57:07 > 0:57:09I'm with me own kind in here.

0:57:10 > 0:57:13I think I might just stay.

0:57:15 > 0:57:16I knew this is where she wanted us to be,

0:57:16 > 0:57:20but I knew we couldn't be here. Not till Mum came back.

0:57:24 > 0:57:28Erin would have tied the washing line round the bathroom door.

0:57:30 > 0:57:32It was something I did...

0:57:32 > 0:57:34to them.

0:57:36 > 0:57:39He wouldn't have known about that, would he?

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