0:01:08 > 0:01:10Oh! Um...
0:01:10 > 0:01:13Sorry. I didn't realise anyone else was...
0:01:13 > 0:01:17That's OK, I was just flexing my glutes. I'm Nathan.
0:01:17 > 0:01:18Penny.
0:01:18 > 0:01:22You're a bit casual for a burglar, aren't you, Penny?
0:01:22 > 0:01:24Oh! Um...
0:01:24 > 0:01:26I'm Dorian's friend.
0:01:26 > 0:01:29Really? Where is he? The old dog!
0:01:29 > 0:01:31He's upstairs.
0:01:31 > 0:01:33Right. Cosy.
0:01:33 > 0:01:37Well, make yourself at home!
0:01:50 > 0:01:53- Delivery.- Yes, I heard that.
0:01:53 > 0:01:57"The Prank Palace dot com"? You planning a career in comedy?
0:01:57 > 0:02:02They're just some props for my breastfeeding seminar on Friday.
0:02:02 > 0:02:03Really?
0:02:03 > 0:02:06Yes, Daniel! Why d'you think I'm so stressed?!
0:02:06 > 0:02:09I've got to make breastfeeding seem fun and funky
0:02:09 > 0:02:13- to a room of pram-faced teenagers... - I'm sure you'll be marvellous.
0:02:13 > 0:02:15Well, I will, but don't you open that!
0:02:15 > 0:02:18Don't you open that! Daniel!
0:02:27 > 0:02:30- Are you happy now?- Yeah.
0:02:30 > 0:02:33I was beginning to think you'd graduate without ever getting laid.
0:02:33 > 0:02:35- Oh, thanks!- Well, it has been a bit of a wasteland
0:02:35 > 0:02:39- and I'm NOT talking TS Eliot. Your love life.- Ha-ha!
0:02:39 > 0:02:40So, how d'you meet?
0:02:40 > 0:02:42Did she just leave her card in a phone box?
0:02:42 > 0:02:46My English seminar group, actually. British Romanticism.
0:02:46 > 0:02:48Oh, how appropriate!
0:02:48 > 0:02:50And d'you mind putting some clothes on?
0:02:50 > 0:02:52I didn't tell her my flatmate was an exhibitionist.
0:02:52 > 0:02:55Hey! She undressed me with her bedroom eyes.
0:02:55 > 0:02:59Well, come on then! Let's have all the gory details! How was it?
0:02:59 > 0:03:01- None of your business. - That good, eh?
0:03:01 > 0:03:03Oh! Think I need a cold shower!
0:03:03 > 0:03:06Anyway, shouldn't you be downstairs cooking her breakfast?
0:03:06 > 0:03:08You might be able to get your leg over again!
0:03:08 > 0:03:09If you're lucky!
0:03:12 > 0:03:15- Thanks for the lift. - I'll pick you up later, then?
0:03:15 > 0:03:19I'll drive us to the therapy session?
0:03:19 > 0:03:22- What?- So, you are definitely coming then?
0:03:22 > 0:03:24I said I would, didn't I?
0:03:24 > 0:03:27- I'll pick you up at 1:30, yeah? - Great.
0:03:44 > 0:03:47- Did you find everything OK? - Yes, thanks.
0:03:47 > 0:03:49I don't think I've ever seen a guy's bathroom
0:03:49 > 0:03:51- with so many products in it. - That's Nathan.
0:03:51 > 0:03:55I'm surprised he's got any skin left, he scrubs it that often!
0:03:55 > 0:03:58- Thanks for last night... - Thanks for coming over...
0:03:58 > 0:04:00Sorry. After you.
0:04:00 > 0:04:02Thanks for letting me stay.
0:04:02 > 0:04:05And for helping me structure that essay.
0:04:06 > 0:04:08Right.
0:04:08 > 0:04:11I guess, I better make a move...
0:04:11 > 0:04:14Let you get on.
0:04:17 > 0:04:21- I'll see you later- Yeah.- Oh!- Sorry!
0:04:22 > 0:04:26- Bye.- Bye.- Bye.
0:04:34 > 0:04:36Aye, aye, tiger! How did it go?
0:04:36 > 0:04:38Yeah, great.
0:04:38 > 0:04:40She's quite fit, actually.
0:04:40 > 0:04:43Not in an obvious way. Sort of...
0:04:43 > 0:04:45- sort of 'brainy fit', if that makes any sense?- It doesn't.
0:04:45 > 0:04:48Well, if you need me out of the way tonight, mate, it's not a problem.
0:04:48 > 0:04:51You've vacated often enough for me.
0:04:51 > 0:04:53- What else are you doing today? - Nothing much.
0:04:53 > 0:04:57Oh, yeah? Recovering from last night's exertions, eh?
0:04:57 > 0:05:00I'm happy for you, mate. I really am.
0:05:00 > 0:05:01You know, I like her.
0:05:01 > 0:05:04She's got nice eyes.
0:05:04 > 0:05:07"My mistress' eyes are nothing like the sun".
0:05:07 > 0:05:09Is that a poem?
0:05:09 > 0:05:11It's a sonnet we were discussing last night.
0:05:11 > 0:05:16- Oh no! You've got it bad, mate! Right! Laters!- Bye.
0:05:32 > 0:05:35It's just that I've just never done anything like this before...
0:05:35 > 0:05:37Fish out of surgery water...
0:05:37 > 0:05:40It's just another Howard Bellamy PR exercise. Don't sweat it.
0:05:40 > 0:05:43- Besides, you're Irish...- So?
0:05:43 > 0:05:46So, you can talk people's socks up and down!
0:05:46 > 0:05:50When you're not 'foighting' or eating potatoes, to be sure!
0:05:50 > 0:05:54Wow! That's funny because I'll probably be too busy River Dancing
0:05:54 > 0:05:56or drinking Guinness to do much 'foighting'.
0:05:56 > 0:05:58Hand some of these out.
0:05:58 > 0:06:00Self-examination checklist for testicular cancer.
0:06:00 > 0:06:03It's about time some of these lads got more intimate
0:06:03 > 0:06:05- with their meat and two veg. - Charming!
0:06:05 > 0:06:08And if you have time, take them over to the modesty booth.
0:06:08 > 0:06:10That way you can show them how to self-examine, on the spot.
0:06:10 > 0:06:13Good morning! Why not treat yourself?
0:06:13 > 0:06:15Ah! Did I just say that?
0:06:15 > 0:06:19I might be wrong, but I doubt she's got testicles, Kevin.
0:06:59 > 0:07:01Excuse me? Nathan?
0:07:01 > 0:07:04Hang on. You all right?
0:07:04 > 0:07:06- Sorry to interrupt. - That's all right.
0:07:06 > 0:07:08Didn't know you worked out here.
0:07:08 > 0:07:11- Nathan, can I ask you something? - Yeah.
0:07:11 > 0:07:14- You know Dorian...well, don't you? - Yeah.
0:07:14 > 0:07:17- How well?- We're best mates.
0:07:17 > 0:07:19How long have you known him?
0:07:19 > 0:07:21Day one of uni, we were on the same corridor at halls.
0:07:21 > 0:07:25Right, so he confides in you?
0:07:25 > 0:07:27About... stuff?
0:07:27 > 0:07:30Penny, what's this all about?
0:07:30 > 0:07:32Is he gay?
0:07:32 > 0:07:34NATHAN LAUGHS
0:07:34 > 0:07:36I don't see why it's so funny!
0:07:36 > 0:07:38Dorian is definitely NOT gay!
0:07:38 > 0:07:41- But how can you be sure? - Because I am.
0:07:41 > 0:07:43- So, I think my gaydar's pretty accurate!- You?
0:07:43 > 0:07:46And Dorian's seen me in the buff often enough and shown ZERO interest
0:07:46 > 0:07:48so I'm pretty sure his interests lie elsewhere...
0:07:48 > 0:07:50- But I thought YOU were straight! - Thank you.
0:07:50 > 0:07:53Why am I so rubbish at telling the difference?
0:07:53 > 0:07:55Perhaps you need the spotters guide?
0:07:55 > 0:07:57So, come on, fellas,
0:07:57 > 0:07:59when was the last time you checked your testicles for lumps, eh?
0:07:59 > 0:08:02It only takes a minute... And your girlfriend can help...
0:08:02 > 0:08:04There's no judgment,
0:08:04 > 0:08:07have a read and if you've any questions, I'll be back in a sec.
0:08:07 > 0:08:10Can I get more leaflets? I can't believe how busy it is. Thank you.
0:08:10 > 0:08:12Can I interest you in our Wellman Clinic?
0:08:12 > 0:08:14I was just saying, if your girlfriend is involved
0:08:14 > 0:08:17it's healthy and fun to check your testicles, so help yourselves, guys.
0:08:17 > 0:08:20Brilliant, I'm here if you need anything, all right?
0:08:20 > 0:08:23How can you think Dorian's gay when you spent last night together?
0:08:23 > 0:08:26Surely that's a pretty good indication!
0:08:26 > 0:08:29But we didn't....
0:08:29 > 0:08:33I came over for a study session and when it got a little bit late,
0:08:33 > 0:08:36Dorian very gallantly offered me his bed.
0:08:36 > 0:08:40He slept on the couch. More's the pity.
0:08:40 > 0:08:42The thing is, I really like Dorian.
0:08:42 > 0:08:46But whenever there's an opportunity for any sort of physical intimacy,
0:08:46 > 0:08:49he just... freezes.
0:08:49 > 0:08:52- We've never even kissed. - Seriously?
0:08:52 > 0:08:55I assumed you'd done the deed! Dorian didn't deny it.
0:08:55 > 0:08:58- Maybe he just doesn't fancy me? - Oh, shut up! Of course he does!
0:08:58 > 0:09:00So what do I do now?
0:09:00 > 0:09:03Just hang on. He's a good bloke, he's worth holding out for.
0:09:03 > 0:09:07And he likes you A LOT. I'm sure of that.
0:09:07 > 0:09:09So, we're offering free on-the-spot checks
0:09:09 > 0:09:12- or I can give you advice on how to self-examine.- Right.
0:09:12 > 0:09:16- Have you got a spare couple of minutes now?- I'll think about it.
0:09:19 > 0:09:21Kevin? Am I doing OK?
0:09:21 > 0:09:24This is all very new to me, so if you've any feedback?
0:09:24 > 0:09:26You are the expert.
0:09:26 > 0:09:30Right, well, if I was to nitpick, I'd would say
0:09:30 > 0:09:34try not to be too "down with the kids", you know?
0:09:34 > 0:09:36- It can sound quite naff.- Oh!
0:09:36 > 0:09:38Mate! You're back! Wicked!
0:09:38 > 0:09:41- Excuse me. Are you a doctor? - Um. Yes.
0:09:41 > 0:09:44- Could I talk to you in private? - Sure.
0:09:44 > 0:09:47- We're offering free Wellman health checks.- Yes, your colleague said.
0:09:47 > 0:09:50Is that what you wanted to talk about?
0:09:53 > 0:09:55- Goodbye, Mrs Gray.- Thank you. Goodbye.- Karen...?
0:09:55 > 0:09:5811:15, if that's any good?
0:09:58 > 0:10:00It's probably just a bit of colic.
0:10:00 > 0:10:02It usually goes after three or four months.
0:10:02 > 0:10:05But if you need any advice, just pop in and see me, OK?
0:10:05 > 0:10:07Bye.
0:10:07 > 0:10:09Great! We'll see you on Monday, then. Bye.
0:10:09 > 0:10:14Mandy? I have to prepare this presentation about breastfeeding
0:10:14 > 0:10:16for some teenage mums on Friday.
0:10:16 > 0:10:18I was wondering if I could pick your brains?
0:10:18 > 0:10:23- You're so good.- Are you joking? After what happened the last time?
0:10:24 > 0:10:26Zara, you wanted me?
0:10:26 > 0:10:28Yes, I need a clear hour kept absolutely free,
0:10:28 > 0:10:31so I can prepare for my presentation. I have already booked it.
0:10:31 > 0:10:33- How's it going? - Yes, really well, thanks.
0:10:33 > 0:10:35Who's she kidding?
0:10:35 > 0:10:38She's asking for your help, she must be desperate...
0:10:38 > 0:10:40It's a joke!
0:10:40 > 0:10:42Mill Health Centre.
0:10:42 > 0:10:44So, there appears to be no irregularities.
0:10:44 > 0:10:46But it's always a good idea to do monthly checks at home.
0:10:46 > 0:10:48Just follow the steps we discussed.
0:10:48 > 0:10:51And... what about other lumps?
0:10:51 > 0:10:53Sorry?
0:10:53 > 0:10:55If I found a lump somewhere else.
0:10:55 > 0:10:58How would I know if it was cancerous? What should I look for?
0:10:58 > 0:11:00It depends on where it is on the body.
0:11:00 > 0:11:01MOBILE RINGS
0:11:01 > 0:11:03Sorry.
0:11:05 > 0:11:09- Penny, hi.- 'Hey. How are you?' - Fine. You?
0:11:09 > 0:11:12I was just wondering if you were free later?
0:11:12 > 0:11:14I've got a lecture at two,
0:11:14 > 0:11:17but then maybe if you were free we could go for a coffee?
0:11:17 > 0:11:21- Yeah, sure.- Great. See you later.
0:11:24 > 0:11:28- Was that your girlfriend? - Is that any of your business?
0:11:30 > 0:11:33Hello.
0:11:33 > 0:11:35Hello, everyone.
0:11:35 > 0:11:37My name...
0:11:37 > 0:11:40My name is Dr Carmichael. And I am a mother, too
0:11:40 > 0:11:42and I'm here to tell you that when it comes to feeding,
0:11:42 > 0:11:45breast really is best...
0:11:45 > 0:11:46KNOCK AT DOOR
0:11:46 > 0:11:49- Look, I told you I'm not to be disturbed!- It's Mandy.
0:11:49 > 0:11:52Oh. Come in!
0:11:55 > 0:11:58- How's it going? - Yeah, really great.
0:11:58 > 0:12:03If you still need help I could spare half an hour over lunch?
0:12:03 > 0:12:05OK.
0:12:09 > 0:12:13Yes! OK.
0:12:13 > 0:12:16Dor? Dor?
0:12:22 > 0:12:24Dor?
0:12:24 > 0:12:26- Get out!- What are you doing?
0:12:26 > 0:12:29I said GET OUT!
0:12:35 > 0:12:38What are you doing? Writing your memoirs?
0:12:38 > 0:12:40I'm just making a few notes for the session.
0:12:43 > 0:12:46- I'll see you next week.- Hi, Anna.
0:12:46 > 0:12:49Hi! You're keen!
0:12:49 > 0:12:51- This is Rob.- Hi.- Hello.
0:12:51 > 0:12:53- Nice to meet you.- We didn't want to be late.- OK.
0:12:53 > 0:12:56I've actually just got a couple of calls to make.
0:12:56 > 0:12:59There's a coffee machine round the corner. All right?
0:13:04 > 0:13:08- D'you want a coffee? - No, no, no. I'm wired enough!
0:13:12 > 0:13:14Thank you for coming.
0:13:20 > 0:13:23Next time you barge in my room, d'you mind knocking first?
0:13:23 > 0:13:25Look, sorry, it was open.
0:13:25 > 0:13:28What's going on, mate? What's all that bandaging?
0:13:28 > 0:13:30I don't want to talk about it, OK?
0:13:30 > 0:13:32First you lied to me about sleeping with Penny.
0:13:32 > 0:13:34- Now you're acting even more weird. - Just leave it, will you?
0:13:34 > 0:13:35- I thought you liked her.- I do.
0:13:35 > 0:13:38Then why give her the cold shoulder? Makes no sense.
0:13:38 > 0:13:40Because she'd go off me, wouldn't she, if...
0:13:40 > 0:13:42- If what?- If she saw me naked.
0:13:42 > 0:13:45You're a bit overweight. Instead of bleating about it, get down the gym.
0:13:45 > 0:13:48- This isn't about my WEIGHT, OK? - No, course it's not.
0:13:48 > 0:13:51I have breasts, Nathan!
0:13:51 > 0:13:53NATHAN LAUGHS
0:13:53 > 0:13:57Oh, come on!
0:13:57 > 0:14:01Right, we have got 'celebrities' who've said it's cool to breastfeed.
0:14:01 > 0:14:04- Trite, but effective.- Mmm-hmm. Weight loss.
0:14:04 > 0:14:07- 500 calories a day. - Convenience.
0:14:07 > 0:14:11Not having to faff around with formula. Plus, it saves money.
0:14:11 > 0:14:13Good. I think that's all I need.
0:14:16 > 0:14:17What? That's it?
0:14:17 > 0:14:20These are teenagers. They've got the attention span of a gnat.
0:14:20 > 0:14:22Good. Sorted.
0:14:22 > 0:14:25Zara, why am I here?
0:14:25 > 0:14:27Well, because...
0:14:27 > 0:14:31because you're going to be more easily able
0:14:31 > 0:14:33to relate to the background these girls come from.
0:14:33 > 0:14:35Help me to communicate with them.
0:14:35 > 0:14:39Oh, I get it. You want to talk like the common people!
0:14:39 > 0:14:42- I'm just saying. - You patronising...!
0:14:44 > 0:14:45You're unbelievable.
0:14:45 > 0:14:49What?! There's no need to be so sensitive!
0:14:52 > 0:14:55So, just read through this and come back if you have any questions.
0:14:58 > 0:15:00Dorian? What's happened?
0:15:00 > 0:15:03- Can I talk to you?- Of course.
0:15:07 > 0:15:10I've never told anyone this before. Now my flatmate knows.
0:15:10 > 0:15:15- He walked in on me... - It's OK. Take your time.
0:15:15 > 0:15:20It's my chest. During puberty, it developed abnormally.
0:15:20 > 0:15:23I should have seen a doctor then, but...
0:15:25 > 0:15:28It looks like I have breasts.
0:15:28 > 0:15:30I started binding it when I was a teenager.
0:15:30 > 0:15:33The only way I could lose my virginity was by keeping my top on,
0:15:33 > 0:15:35so they were covered. No one's seen me naked.
0:15:35 > 0:15:38I can't imagine they'd want to sleep with me if they had.
0:15:38 > 0:15:39I'm sure that's not true, Dorian.
0:15:39 > 0:15:41You're being incredibly hard on yourself.
0:15:41 > 0:15:43I've had years of practice.
0:15:43 > 0:15:47You're not hiding now, you've told me. What's changed?
0:15:47 > 0:15:50I've found a lump.
0:15:52 > 0:15:54So, I thought it might be useful to start this session
0:15:54 > 0:15:57by asking how you feel about the process.
0:15:57 > 0:16:00What are your thoughts and expectations?
0:16:02 > 0:16:05Rob, would you like to go first?
0:16:05 > 0:16:09Um. Well. As you probably know,
0:16:09 > 0:16:13I was a little bit reticent about this.
0:16:13 > 0:16:18But I do now realise that Karen is right.
0:16:18 > 0:16:21We can't solve this situation on our own.
0:16:21 > 0:16:25So, here we are.
0:16:25 > 0:16:28And do you have any questions about the process itself?
0:16:28 > 0:16:31I wanted to ask you about confidentiality.
0:16:31 > 0:16:32OK.
0:16:32 > 0:16:35Well, I do write notes after each session,
0:16:35 > 0:16:37which remain here under lock and key.
0:16:37 > 0:16:41Otherwise, confidentiality can only be breached,
0:16:41 > 0:16:44if there's any concern or danger to the client
0:16:44 > 0:16:46or any other people involved
0:16:46 > 0:16:50or any safeguarding issues concerning children.
0:16:50 > 0:16:54Yeah. Of course. And the sessions themselves, how are they structured?
0:16:54 > 0:16:58Well, Cognitive Behavioural Therapy tends to operate
0:16:58 > 0:17:00on a more freeform basis.
0:17:02 > 0:17:07I've made a list of things I think we should cover...
0:17:07 > 0:17:10Rob! You're not giving evidence.
0:17:10 > 0:17:12It's OK.
0:17:12 > 0:17:15It's actually really helpful that you've spent time
0:17:15 > 0:17:19thinking about the session beforehand, but,
0:17:19 > 0:17:22just for the moment, let's see where the conversation takes us.
0:17:22 > 0:17:25Then we can always come back to your notes later.
0:17:27 > 0:17:29Yeah. Sure.
0:17:33 > 0:17:35The lump's just here.
0:17:38 > 0:17:40Why did my chest develop like this?
0:17:40 > 0:17:43Bodies come in all shapes and sizes.
0:17:43 > 0:17:45I've tried losing weight, but it makes no difference.
0:17:45 > 0:17:49It's hormones that influence breast development.
0:17:49 > 0:17:52- Is it painful?- No.
0:17:52 > 0:17:54It feels to me like nothing more than a small cyst,
0:17:54 > 0:17:57probably a build up of fluid. I'm sure it's benign,
0:17:57 > 0:17:59but we can do more tests to make certain.
0:17:59 > 0:18:02You did the right thing by coming and getting it checked.
0:18:02 > 0:18:04And my chest? Is there any treatment available?
0:18:04 > 0:18:05Can I have surgery?
0:18:05 > 0:18:08Do you mind if I speak to my colleague?
0:18:08 > 0:18:10Just ask his opinion? While you get dressed?
0:18:10 > 0:18:12Sure.
0:18:12 > 0:18:14MOBILE BEEPS
0:18:19 > 0:18:22I feel like I'm in no man's land.
0:18:23 > 0:18:26It's really difficult trying to be part of a family
0:18:26 > 0:18:28that you hardly know.
0:18:28 > 0:18:31Especially when you've got so few memories to draw on
0:18:31 > 0:18:33Yeah.
0:18:33 > 0:18:36Well, maybe, Rob, you could help Karen fill in some of those gaps?
0:18:36 > 0:18:39She just needs to spend more time with them.
0:18:39 > 0:18:42- I spent a day with Immie! - And how was that?
0:18:42 > 0:18:45It was good, it was hard.
0:18:45 > 0:18:48We got on, but more as mates.
0:18:48 > 0:18:50I didn't feel like her mum or anything,
0:18:50 > 0:18:54- but there was that moment... - It was just one day, Karen!
0:18:54 > 0:18:56Yeah, well, I'll see her again!
0:18:56 > 0:18:58And what about Jack? You haven't spoken to him.
0:18:58 > 0:19:00I'm going to!
0:19:00 > 0:19:03It's...
0:19:03 > 0:19:06- What?- Nothing!
0:19:07 > 0:19:09I've got an idea.
0:19:09 > 0:19:12An exercise which I think might be really helpful.
0:19:12 > 0:19:15Rob, I want you to imagine that you've got to do
0:19:15 > 0:19:18a kind of business-like presentation for Karen,
0:19:18 > 0:19:23about what Jack and Immie are like as people.
0:19:23 > 0:19:27As if Karen's about to meet them for the very first time.
0:19:27 > 0:19:30- Yep. Sure.- Great.
0:19:30 > 0:19:32Great.
0:19:33 > 0:19:37It's actually not uncommon in young men. It's called Gynecomastia.
0:19:37 > 0:19:40It's caused by a hormone imbalance during puberty.
0:19:40 > 0:19:43Dr Tyler thinks it might be the binding that's caused the lump.
0:19:43 > 0:19:46- Really?- It's just a hunch.
0:19:46 > 0:19:48But long-term compression of the breast tissue
0:19:48 > 0:19:52might cause side effects. We'd need to run more tests.
0:19:52 > 0:19:55I can't stop binding. No way.
0:19:55 > 0:19:58OK, well the good news is, there are various treatments.
0:19:58 > 0:20:01Medication for the hormone imbalance
0:20:01 > 0:20:03and even fairly non-invasive lipo surgery
0:20:03 > 0:20:05to reduce the size of the breasts.
0:20:05 > 0:20:09And would my body look absolutely normal afterwards?
0:20:09 > 0:20:13I don't know what 'normal' looks like, Dorian.
0:20:13 > 0:20:15We all have hang-ups about our bodies.
0:20:15 > 0:20:18I know that the images we see around us make us think
0:20:18 > 0:20:20we have to look a certain way in order to fit in.
0:20:20 > 0:20:23But letting people into your life is about seeing beyond that.
0:20:23 > 0:20:26People are so much more than flesh and bone.
0:20:29 > 0:20:33- But you've not actually said what they're like.- I've just said!
0:20:33 > 0:20:35No, you've just described them to me!
0:20:35 > 0:20:38I don't need a photofit! I know what they look like!
0:20:38 > 0:20:41What else do you need to know, Karen?
0:20:41 > 0:20:44Erm, what makes them tick?
0:20:44 > 0:20:47What's my relationship like with them?
0:20:47 > 0:20:48Rob?
0:20:48 > 0:20:51Right. Right.
0:20:51 > 0:20:54Immie is... She's just Immie.
0:20:54 > 0:20:57She's always campaigning for something,
0:20:57 > 0:20:59whether it be animal rights or poverty in Africa.
0:20:59 > 0:21:02Jack's always got some money-making scheme on the go.
0:21:02 > 0:21:04And a different girlfriend every five minutes.
0:21:04 > 0:21:08They're just like every other kid in their early twenties!
0:21:11 > 0:21:14- Is that it? - What d'you want me to say, Karen?!
0:21:14 > 0:21:17Spend some time with them and find out for yourself!
0:21:17 > 0:21:19I KNEW this would happen!
0:21:19 > 0:21:24OK, OK. Let's try a different approach.
0:21:24 > 0:21:27Let's talk about the day you spent with Immie.
0:21:27 > 0:21:29Maybe we can use that as a springboard.
0:21:32 > 0:21:34Thanks.
0:21:34 > 0:21:37And thanks for listening.
0:21:37 > 0:21:39I've spent years keeping this secret,
0:21:39 > 0:21:42- so, today's been a new experience. - For me, too.
0:21:42 > 0:21:45Medical school can only prepare you for so much.
0:21:45 > 0:21:48The rest is thinking on your feet or taking the weight OFF your feet!
0:21:50 > 0:21:54So, this girl you were on the phone to earlier...
0:21:54 > 0:21:56- Penny.- Do you like her?
0:21:56 > 0:21:59Or more importantly, are you going to give her
0:21:59 > 0:22:01the opportunity to like you?
0:22:01 > 0:22:05I just wish I could have my head on somebody else's body.
0:22:05 > 0:22:08Can I get that done on the NHS?
0:22:08 > 0:22:12Oh no! Here comes Bob the Bodybuilder!
0:22:12 > 0:22:15- I've been looking everywhere for you!- You found me.
0:22:15 > 0:22:17Look, I'm sorry about earlier.
0:22:17 > 0:22:20I didn't mean to be insensitive... But... why didn't you tell me?
0:22:20 > 0:22:23- I would have understood.- Please! Nathan, you're a total body fascist.
0:22:23 > 0:22:25- How could I confide in you? - Because we're best mates!
0:22:25 > 0:22:27How could you possibly understand how I'm feeling?
0:22:27 > 0:22:30- You've got the perfect body...- D'you think I've always looked like this?
0:22:30 > 0:22:33- Probably.- When I was at school, I wasn't bullied for being gay
0:22:33 > 0:22:36but for being a fat kid. The only reason I've got this body now
0:22:36 > 0:22:38is because I worked my backside off to get it,
0:22:38 > 0:22:41to finally like myself and have some form of self-respect!
0:22:41 > 0:22:44I might not be half as intelligent as you are,
0:22:44 > 0:22:46but I'd like to think I'm nowhere near as shallow
0:22:46 > 0:22:51- as you give me credit for! - Nathan?!
0:22:51 > 0:22:54Great. Could today get any worse?
0:22:54 > 0:22:57It could get a whole lot better.
0:22:57 > 0:22:59Doesn't Nathan prove my point?
0:22:59 > 0:23:02You misjudged him. Don't do the same thing to Penny.
0:23:04 > 0:23:08So, you enjoyed your time together. You found some common ground?
0:23:08 > 0:23:09(Yeah.)
0:23:09 > 0:23:13And did Immie talk much about your relationship?
0:23:13 > 0:23:16As a family, she said we were close.
0:23:16 > 0:23:17She sang your praises.
0:23:17 > 0:23:21Did she? Was she drunk?
0:23:21 > 0:23:23Not at that point. No. Why?
0:23:23 > 0:23:28I'm joking and that's nice and true.
0:23:28 > 0:23:31But it wasn't always plain sailing.
0:23:31 > 0:23:34What memories DO you have of her, Karen?
0:23:34 > 0:23:36A red kite in the sky.
0:23:36 > 0:23:38A little girl laughing.
0:23:41 > 0:23:44You remember that?
0:23:44 > 0:23:46You bought her that kite.
0:23:46 > 0:23:49And when they're that age, butter wouldn't melt.
0:23:49 > 0:23:52- She made up for it later! - What d'you mean?
0:23:52 > 0:23:53When she was a teenager.
0:23:53 > 0:23:58Among other things, she got caught shoplifting. A lot.
0:23:58 > 0:24:00It's fine. We dealt with it.
0:24:00 > 0:24:01How?
0:24:01 > 0:24:03By making a lot of difficult decisions.
0:24:03 > 0:24:05I think it's best if we leave that there.
0:24:05 > 0:24:08I think we've probably taken this as far as we can today.
0:24:08 > 0:24:10What about Jack?
0:24:10 > 0:24:12Doesn't he get a look in?
0:24:12 > 0:24:15When ARE you going to speak to him?
0:24:15 > 0:24:19- I don't know. - He is your child as well!
0:24:19 > 0:24:21I spoke to him at the hospital.
0:24:21 > 0:24:24That was months ago!
0:24:26 > 0:24:30- I didn't know who he was... - Well, you do now!
0:24:30 > 0:24:32Anna will tell you how confused I was...
0:24:32 > 0:24:35Oh, come on! How difficult can it be to pick up the PHONE?
0:24:36 > 0:24:39I can't.
0:24:39 > 0:24:42Why NOT, Karen?
0:24:42 > 0:24:45You see? It's another brick wall!
0:24:45 > 0:24:48Because I kissed him!
0:24:58 > 0:25:02- Er, Penny?- Oh, hi! See you later.
0:25:02 > 0:25:06- D'you want to grab that coffee now? - In a sec.
0:25:06 > 0:25:08Penny.
0:25:08 > 0:25:12- I don't have much experience with women.- So?
0:25:12 > 0:25:15And I'm not exactly Zac Efron in the looks department.
0:25:15 > 0:25:17Err, he's not my type...
0:25:17 > 0:25:20What I'm trying to say is, if you'd rather go out
0:25:20 > 0:25:23with someone from the rugby team, I'd completely understand.
0:25:23 > 0:25:25Maybe Nathan could get you a few numbers...
0:25:25 > 0:25:27Right. Well, I'm glad we cleared that up!
0:25:27 > 0:25:30You know, funnily enough, I DID date a rugby guy last term.
0:25:30 > 0:25:31He bored me to tears.
0:25:31 > 0:25:33He might have had a fit bod, but he was usually
0:25:33 > 0:25:36too busy admiring it himself that I never got a look in.
0:25:36 > 0:25:41But, Penny, that's it. I haven't...
0:25:41 > 0:25:44- Haven't what?- Got a fit bod...
0:25:44 > 0:25:46Have you just listened to a word I've just said?
0:25:46 > 0:25:49I don't care about that stuff, Dorian!
0:25:49 > 0:25:51You make me laugh.
0:25:51 > 0:25:55I think you're intelligent and kind.
0:25:55 > 0:25:59- I just wish you liked yourself a bit more.- I am trying to!
0:25:59 > 0:26:01Good, because I like you!
0:26:01 > 0:26:05Besides which, you have got THE most gorgeous lips.
0:26:05 > 0:26:09In fact, it really does make me wish you'd just shut up and kiss me!
0:26:13 > 0:26:16Finally! It's been like 'Waiting For Godot'!
0:26:16 > 0:26:18- Nath, I'm really sorry. - It's OK.
0:26:18 > 0:26:21And for goodness sake, you two, get a room!
0:26:21 > 0:26:25LAUGHTER
0:26:25 > 0:26:28Rob, I really think you need to see this in context.
0:26:28 > 0:26:31Karen was very ill at the time, she was very confused...
0:26:31 > 0:26:35Me?! YOU'RE the ones who need to see it in context!
0:26:35 > 0:26:37Do you know what it's like to be rejected by your own wife,
0:26:37 > 0:26:41over and over again for months on end?!
0:26:41 > 0:26:45And then now I find out she's been lusting after her own son!
0:26:45 > 0:26:47It wasn't like that! It was a mistake!
0:26:47 > 0:26:51I'll tell you what's a mistake, THIS is a mistake!
0:26:51 > 0:26:54- Rob, please. You're upset. - You don't say!
0:27:04 > 0:27:06Bend to the left.
0:27:06 > 0:27:08And the right.
0:27:08 > 0:27:12- Any other symptoms? - No. it's gone.
0:27:12 > 0:27:15- It's going to look well dodgy, isn't it?- I panicked.
0:27:15 > 0:27:17You can't afford to panic.
0:27:17 > 0:27:19This isn't Mum's ring.
0:27:19 > 0:27:21Yes it is.
0:27:21 > 0:27:25No, it isn't. Hers had FIVE diamonds!
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