To Catch a Thief

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0:00:29 > 0:00:31You said you'd deliver the sofa between 12 and 2.

0:00:31 > 0:00:34And now you're saying you tried to deliver it ten minutes ago

0:00:34 > 0:00:37and you've taken it away again because I wasn't there!

0:00:39 > 0:00:42I didn't know you were going to be three hours early!

0:00:42 > 0:00:45Well, if you can't deal with it, I want to speak to your manager.

0:00:45 > 0:00:47Now.

0:00:49 > 0:00:51She's taken my bag!

0:00:51 > 0:00:53Stop! Stop!

0:00:53 > 0:00:54That's my bag. Give it back.

0:00:54 > 0:00:56Someone call the police!

0:01:14 > 0:01:16Hi.

0:01:16 > 0:01:18I'm Adam Grundy, your instructor.

0:01:18 > 0:01:19Emma Reid.

0:01:19 > 0:01:21You ready for some serious yoga?

0:01:21 > 0:01:22Absolutely.

0:01:25 > 0:01:28MOBILE RINGS

0:01:30 > 0:01:32Why?

0:01:32 > 0:01:34Why can't I keep my phone?

0:01:34 > 0:01:35She stole my bag!

0:01:35 > 0:01:37You are going to charge her with something?

0:01:37 > 0:01:39We're going to need statements from both of you.

0:01:39 > 0:01:41That's going to take a while. You don't have to wait.

0:01:41 > 0:01:42You could come back later.

0:01:42 > 0:01:43This is ridiculous.

0:01:43 > 0:01:46Rob. You wanted me to check someone else over?

0:01:46 > 0:01:48Yes, this is Anita Heaton.

0:01:48 > 0:01:49She's 11 years old,

0:01:49 > 0:01:51just been arrested for street robbery.

0:01:51 > 0:01:53- Another one?- God, they're getting younger.

0:01:53 > 0:01:55We've had a spate of them recently.

0:01:55 > 0:01:57I swear, most of them are still in primary school.

0:01:57 > 0:01:59Anyway, she snatched someone's bag,

0:01:59 > 0:02:01the victim chased after her and she's fallen over.

0:02:01 > 0:02:03Got cuts and bruises. Anita.

0:02:03 > 0:02:04This is Doctor Clay.

0:02:04 > 0:02:07He's going to take a look at you, all right?

0:02:07 > 0:02:09Now, I've phoned your mum and we've left a message.

0:02:09 > 0:02:12- But in the meantime, you can stay in the doctor's room.- Why?

0:02:12 > 0:02:15Why? Because you're too young to go into a cell.

0:02:15 > 0:02:16- No, I'm not.- Don't argue with me.

0:02:16 > 0:02:18Trust me, his room is a lot nicer.

0:02:18 > 0:02:20All yours, Doc.

0:02:20 > 0:02:22MOBILE RINGS

0:02:22 > 0:02:24All right. Come on, Anita.

0:02:27 > 0:02:29You are a proper doctor?

0:02:30 > 0:02:32Me? No, no. I just wondered in off the street.

0:02:32 > 0:02:33I'm just pretending.

0:02:33 > 0:02:36Don't tell anyone though, OK?

0:02:36 > 0:02:37You're mental, you.

0:02:37 > 0:02:39Quite possibly.

0:02:39 > 0:02:41Right. Let me have a look at your hands.

0:02:45 > 0:02:47You know what?

0:02:47 > 0:02:50I think you'll live.

0:02:52 > 0:02:54So, you just fell on your hands and knees?

0:02:54 > 0:02:55You didn't bang your head?

0:02:57 > 0:02:59How come you weren't in school?

0:03:00 > 0:03:02Didn't fancy it.

0:03:02 > 0:03:05Don't you start. Mum's always on at me to go.

0:03:05 > 0:03:07Your mum's right.

0:03:07 > 0:03:09Sorry. Is that sore?

0:03:09 > 0:03:11No.

0:03:11 > 0:03:13Not really.

0:03:13 > 0:03:14Right.

0:03:14 > 0:03:16Can I take a little look at your arms?

0:03:23 > 0:03:26How did you get the bruises, Anita?

0:03:26 > 0:03:28It was her.

0:03:28 > 0:03:30That lady whose bag I took.

0:03:30 > 0:03:31She grabbed me.

0:03:34 > 0:03:35You see, the thing is,

0:03:35 > 0:03:37those bruises are several days old.

0:03:37 > 0:03:39There's no way they could have happened this morning.

0:03:39 > 0:03:42When am I going to get out of here anyway?

0:03:42 > 0:03:43I want to go home.

0:03:43 > 0:03:45They're going to have to interview you.

0:03:45 > 0:03:48Ask you a few questions. It's nothing to be scared of.

0:03:48 > 0:03:50I know. I've got to keep my head down and say "no comment".

0:03:50 > 0:03:52Who told you that?

0:03:52 > 0:03:53No-one. I, erm, saw it on TV.

0:03:57 > 0:03:59Good, Natalie.

0:04:01 > 0:04:02Sita, that's nice.

0:04:02 > 0:04:04Don't forget to breathe.

0:04:07 > 0:04:08Beth, good.

0:04:10 > 0:04:12Emma, let's adjust you.

0:04:12 > 0:04:17That's how it was in my Jennifer Aniston video.

0:04:17 > 0:04:18Must have copied it wrong. I'm sorry.

0:04:18 > 0:04:20You're doing fine, Emma.

0:04:20 > 0:04:22Just breathe.

0:04:22 > 0:04:25Right. OK. Oh.

0:04:25 > 0:04:28OK. Interview with Anita Heaton.

0:04:28 > 0:04:31Also present is myself, Sgt Hollins,

0:04:31 > 0:04:34Andrea Woods and Doctor Clay.

0:04:34 > 0:04:37Anita, for the sake of the tape, can you say your name, please?

0:04:37 > 0:04:39No comment.

0:04:40 > 0:04:42You can tell them your name.

0:04:42 > 0:04:44It's the other questions you don't have to answer.

0:04:44 > 0:04:47- Anita. - Right, Anita, were you on

0:04:47 > 0:04:50Letherbridge High Street this morning at 9.30?

0:04:50 > 0:04:51No comment.

0:04:51 > 0:04:54Did you see a woman, Sophie Carsley, with a shoulder bag?

0:04:54 > 0:04:55No comment.

0:04:55 > 0:04:58Did you see that shoulder bag being put on a bench?

0:04:58 > 0:05:00- No comment.- OK.

0:05:01 > 0:05:04I want to ask you another question.

0:05:04 > 0:05:08Doctor Clay has found some bruises on your arms.

0:05:08 > 0:05:10Did someone do that to you?

0:05:11 > 0:05:14No comment.

0:05:14 > 0:05:15He's just trying to help you.

0:05:17 > 0:05:18Ryan.

0:05:18 > 0:05:20Thank you.

0:05:20 > 0:05:22Who's Ryan?

0:05:22 > 0:05:23Ryan Stewart.

0:05:23 > 0:05:25Mum's ex.

0:05:25 > 0:05:27He used to hit her as well,

0:05:27 > 0:05:28then he started on me.

0:05:28 > 0:05:30Why would he do that?

0:05:30 > 0:05:32Because he's a pig.

0:05:32 > 0:05:34Mum threw him out.

0:05:34 > 0:05:36When was this, Anita?

0:05:36 > 0:05:38Last Friday.

0:05:40 > 0:05:44Did Ryan do anything else to hurt you?

0:05:46 > 0:05:49All right! I did it. I took that woman's bag, OK?

0:05:49 > 0:05:51I'm pleading guilty.

0:05:52 > 0:05:55Actually, that's the bit you do in court.

0:05:55 > 0:05:57So, you did intend to rob her?

0:05:57 > 0:05:59I didn't intend.

0:05:59 > 0:06:00I did it.

0:06:00 > 0:06:01Did someone ask you to steal it?

0:06:01 > 0:06:03Did someone make you steal it?

0:06:03 > 0:06:05No! No-one makes me do anything.

0:06:05 > 0:06:07I robbed that woman's bag.

0:06:07 > 0:06:08It was my own idea.

0:06:08 > 0:06:09Can I go now?

0:06:09 > 0:06:11No.

0:06:11 > 0:06:13Not until your mum gets here.

0:06:15 > 0:06:18OK, we're going to do Natarajasana

0:06:18 > 0:06:20or Lord of the Dance pose.

0:06:20 > 0:06:21Deep breath in.

0:06:23 > 0:06:25Right leg floats up behind you, bend your knee.

0:06:25 > 0:06:28Clasp the right foot with the right hand.

0:06:28 > 0:06:29That's it, Emma.

0:06:29 > 0:06:31Look at Beth. See what she's doing?

0:06:31 > 0:06:35Left arm up. Press into the right hand, pitching forward.

0:06:35 > 0:06:36OK. Don't worry, Emma.

0:06:36 > 0:06:38I'll come and join you in a minute.

0:06:38 > 0:06:40Guys, you just hold your positions.

0:06:40 > 0:06:44Emma, let me give you something simpler to do.

0:06:44 > 0:06:46Left arm up

0:06:46 > 0:06:48and just keep straight.

0:06:48 > 0:06:50- Sorry. I'm sorry.- It's OK.

0:07:04 > 0:07:06Oh, Mr Robson.

0:07:06 > 0:07:09Sorry. I didn't mean to startle you.

0:07:12 > 0:07:14I came to apologise.

0:07:15 > 0:07:18What I said the other day, it was rude.

0:07:18 > 0:07:20And ungrateful.

0:07:20 > 0:07:23See, I just wasn't ready to talk about what I'd done.

0:07:23 > 0:07:25It doesn't matter.

0:07:25 > 0:07:26Yes, it does.

0:07:26 > 0:07:28You've been trying to help me,

0:07:28 > 0:07:30you've every right to ask about my past.

0:07:30 > 0:07:32Mr Robson...

0:07:32 > 0:07:37I have been thinking about this since our last meeting.

0:07:37 > 0:07:41I do not think I can continue to befriend you.

0:07:41 > 0:07:44I am not up to the task.

0:07:44 > 0:07:46I'm sorry.

0:07:46 > 0:07:47I wish you well, but...

0:07:47 > 0:07:49I understand.

0:07:49 > 0:07:52I must get on with the flowers.

0:07:58 > 0:08:00I wanted to thank you for something,

0:08:00 > 0:08:03well, apart from saving my life.

0:08:03 > 0:08:05There is no need.

0:08:05 > 0:08:07I've started to pray again.

0:08:08 > 0:08:10I am glad.

0:08:10 > 0:08:12But you really do not have to thank me.

0:08:12 > 0:08:13Yes, I do.

0:08:14 > 0:08:18You see, before I met you, I couldn't.

0:08:18 > 0:08:20For years.

0:08:20 > 0:08:22Now I can.

0:08:23 > 0:08:25Well...

0:08:25 > 0:08:28do you want to pray now?

0:08:41 > 0:08:42See you at lunch, Emma.

0:08:45 > 0:08:47Emma?

0:08:50 > 0:08:52It will get easier.

0:08:52 > 0:08:54I shouldn't be here. This is an advanced course.

0:08:54 > 0:08:56I'm hardly even a beginner.

0:08:56 > 0:08:57I'm just holding everyone back.

0:08:57 > 0:08:59It's not a competition, Emma.

0:08:59 > 0:09:00I'm useless at it.

0:09:00 > 0:09:03No. You're just further down the learning curve.

0:09:03 > 0:09:05Please. Spare me the jargon.

0:09:05 > 0:09:07I bet you've always been good at everything.

0:09:07 > 0:09:09Top of every class. Right?

0:09:09 > 0:09:10Pretty much, yes.

0:09:10 > 0:09:12And now you're trying something

0:09:12 > 0:09:13that's out of your comfort zone.

0:09:13 > 0:09:15That takes guts.

0:09:15 > 0:09:18I thought this would make me feel relaxed!

0:09:18 > 0:09:20I'm more stressed now than when I arrived.

0:09:20 > 0:09:22You're overthinking it.

0:09:22 > 0:09:24Yoga's not an intellectual exercise.

0:09:24 > 0:09:26It's spiritual, physical.

0:09:26 > 0:09:28Try to let go. Listen to your body.

0:09:28 > 0:09:32Right now, my body is telling me to go home and have a nice hot bath.

0:09:32 > 0:09:34Oh, come on. You've hardly even started.

0:09:34 > 0:09:36Don't give up now.

0:09:36 > 0:09:38Anyway, you don't strike me as a quitter.

0:09:41 > 0:09:42All right.

0:09:48 > 0:09:51You asked me why I did it.

0:09:53 > 0:09:56I can tell you.

0:09:56 > 0:09:58I don't know if you want to know.

0:10:03 > 0:10:06You talk, I will listen.

0:10:10 > 0:10:13I always went out a lot.

0:10:13 > 0:10:15Met girls.

0:10:17 > 0:10:20Right from the age...

0:10:20 > 0:10:23of 12, 13.

0:10:23 > 0:10:25They dressed provocatively.

0:10:26 > 0:10:29You know, little skimpy tops,

0:10:29 > 0:10:32short skirts, heels. Perfume.

0:10:32 > 0:10:34I was a bundle of hormones.

0:10:34 > 0:10:37Of course, it drove me mad.

0:10:37 > 0:10:40They knew exactly what they were doing,

0:10:40 > 0:10:43they enjoyed having that power.

0:10:43 > 0:10:46Some of them were real...

0:10:46 > 0:10:47teases.

0:10:49 > 0:10:51And I...

0:10:51 > 0:10:54I just reckoned it was all a game.

0:10:55 > 0:10:57You know, girls lead blokes on.

0:10:57 > 0:11:00Blokes have to prove themselves.

0:11:00 > 0:11:02Rise to the challenge.

0:11:02 > 0:11:03That's how it works.

0:11:03 > 0:11:05Everyone knows the rules.

0:11:05 > 0:11:09When a woman says, "No,"

0:11:09 > 0:11:13when one of your victims said, "No,"

0:11:13 > 0:11:16and made it clear that they did not want to have sex with you...

0:11:18 > 0:11:20I never thought they meant it.

0:11:21 > 0:11:23When they said, "No,"

0:11:23 > 0:11:26when they said they'd changed their minds,

0:11:26 > 0:11:29that was all part of the game.

0:11:29 > 0:11:31They wanted me to force them.

0:11:31 > 0:11:33It made it more exciting.

0:11:36 > 0:11:39I know that's horrible.

0:11:39 > 0:11:42And it's not what I think now.

0:11:42 > 0:11:44It's what I thought back then.

0:11:44 > 0:11:47When I...

0:11:47 > 0:11:50When I did what I did.

0:11:53 > 0:11:56If you're going to question my daughter, I want to sit in.

0:11:56 > 0:11:57I have got the right...

0:11:57 > 0:11:59We've already done it, I'm afraid.

0:11:59 > 0:12:00We couldn't get hold of you.

0:12:00 > 0:12:02We needed to get ahead. So...

0:12:02 > 0:12:05Anyway, she is now ready to be released back into your care.

0:12:05 > 0:12:07But I should have been there.

0:12:07 > 0:12:08If you've bullied her...

0:12:08 > 0:12:10We don't do that, Mrs Heaton.

0:12:10 > 0:12:13And her appropriate adult was a social worker.

0:12:13 > 0:12:15And she asked for a Police Surgeon.

0:12:15 > 0:12:17- Who?- This is Doctor Clay.

0:12:17 > 0:12:19Jimmi, this is Melanie Heaton, Anita's mum.

0:12:19 > 0:12:22It's Mel. No-one calls me Melanie.

0:12:22 > 0:12:23OK. Mel.

0:12:24 > 0:12:27We found some bruising on Anita's arms.

0:12:27 > 0:12:29Any idea how it got there?

0:12:29 > 0:12:31What'd she say about it?

0:12:31 > 0:12:33Well, never mind what she said.

0:12:33 > 0:12:35I'm asking you.

0:12:35 > 0:12:38That'd be my ex, Ryan.

0:12:38 > 0:12:40It won't happen again. I've thrown him out.

0:12:40 > 0:12:42When?

0:12:42 > 0:12:44Friday just gone.

0:12:44 > 0:12:47Should've done it sooner, but...

0:12:48 > 0:12:50This is the reason why Anita's acting up.

0:12:50 > 0:12:52She can be a right little terror sometimes,

0:12:52 > 0:12:54but she's not a bad kid.

0:12:54 > 0:12:56Please, don't be too hard on her.

0:12:56 > 0:12:59For the moment, you can take her home.

0:12:59 > 0:13:00Thanks.

0:13:00 > 0:13:02I just want to get her out of here.

0:13:02 > 0:13:04Oh, no offence.

0:13:04 > 0:13:05None taken.

0:13:05 > 0:13:08Anita. You are being bailed.

0:13:08 > 0:13:12Which means you've got to come back here in three weeks. OK? Excuse me.

0:13:12 > 0:13:14MOBILE RINGS

0:13:14 > 0:13:18Sweetheart, what were you thinking?

0:13:18 > 0:13:20Come here.

0:13:23 > 0:13:24Anita.

0:13:24 > 0:13:26This is my card.

0:13:26 > 0:13:28OK? It's got my mobile number on there,

0:13:28 > 0:13:30the surgery number where I work.

0:13:30 > 0:13:33If you ever need to talk about anything.

0:13:33 > 0:13:34I'll look after that for you.

0:13:34 > 0:13:37She'll just lose it.

0:13:37 > 0:13:40What are you like, eh? Come on.

0:13:47 > 0:13:52Deep down, I knew what I was doing,

0:13:52 > 0:13:54but I didn't want to know.

0:13:55 > 0:13:58I didn't see the girls'...

0:13:58 > 0:14:03the victims' fear because I didn't want to see.

0:14:03 > 0:14:05I didn't want to admit it was real.

0:14:05 > 0:14:07So, you told yourself it was all a game.

0:14:07 > 0:14:10Yes.

0:14:10 > 0:14:14But even when they struggled, said "No," and begged me to stop...

0:14:14 > 0:14:17See...

0:14:17 > 0:14:20I always thought women had all the power in sex,

0:14:20 > 0:14:23in relationships. You know, they were in control.

0:14:23 > 0:14:26If a bloke fancied a girl,

0:14:26 > 0:14:29she could twist him round her little finger. So...

0:14:31 > 0:14:33..I didn't even see it as a crime.

0:14:33 > 0:14:35I thought it was just a way of...

0:14:35 > 0:14:37getting some of the power back from women.

0:14:37 > 0:14:39Redressing the balance.

0:14:39 > 0:14:43So, you think women have all the power?

0:14:45 > 0:14:48I know many women who would not agree with you.

0:14:48 > 0:14:52That's what I thought then.

0:14:52 > 0:14:53Not now.

0:15:00 > 0:15:02Really?

0:15:02 > 0:15:05You're saying that Mel gave Anita the bruises?

0:15:05 > 0:15:08- Maybe.- You got any proof?

0:15:08 > 0:15:10- Anita's terrified of her. - Yeah, I know,

0:15:10 > 0:15:12but I'd be terrified, if I'd robbed someone

0:15:12 > 0:15:14and my mum was coming down the station to bail me out.

0:15:14 > 0:15:16- Nah, it was more than that.- Go on?

0:15:16 > 0:15:18I saw Anita flinch.

0:15:18 > 0:15:21And then there's the bruises.

0:15:21 > 0:15:22They both say it was the ex-boyfriend.

0:15:22 > 0:15:25I do know Ryan Stewart. I've arrested him a few times.

0:15:25 > 0:15:27He's a real charmer. Handy with his fists.

0:15:27 > 0:15:29It makes sense that he did it.

0:15:29 > 0:15:30Mel seems decent enough.

0:15:30 > 0:15:33MOBILE RINGS She seems to care about the kid.

0:15:33 > 0:15:35Sorry.

0:15:35 > 0:15:37- Hello? - 'Hello, it's Anita.'

0:15:37 > 0:15:38Anita?

0:15:38 > 0:15:40'I'm in real trouble this time.'

0:15:40 > 0:15:42Hang on a sec. Listen, I'm with Sgt Hollins.

0:15:42 > 0:15:45I'm just going to put you on speaker phone. OK?

0:15:45 > 0:15:49- Go on.- 'It's my fault. I messed up robbing that woman.'

0:15:49 > 0:15:50What do you mean?

0:15:50 > 0:15:52'I got caught. We're not supposed to get caught.

0:15:52 > 0:15:53'We get punished.'

0:15:53 > 0:15:55"We"?

0:15:55 > 0:15:56Anita, where are you?

0:15:56 > 0:15:58'At home. I've got to go.'

0:15:58 > 0:15:59Come on.

0:16:01 > 0:16:04Just because some silly little girl

0:16:04 > 0:16:07many years ago might have led you on,

0:16:07 > 0:16:10that gives you the right to punish women,

0:16:10 > 0:16:12all women, for the rest of your life?

0:16:12 > 0:16:14I suppose I did think that.

0:16:14 > 0:16:16Yes, until...

0:16:16 > 0:16:18Until...?

0:16:18 > 0:16:20I was trying not to look in her face,

0:16:20 > 0:16:23as always, but then I did.

0:16:24 > 0:16:26Just for a moment.

0:16:26 > 0:16:29And I saw this...

0:16:29 > 0:16:32absolute terror.

0:16:32 > 0:16:34She was scared for her life.

0:16:34 > 0:16:36It wasn't a game.

0:16:36 > 0:16:38I knew what I'd done.

0:16:38 > 0:16:42Was she dressed provocatively? Did she lead you on?

0:16:42 > 0:16:44No.

0:16:44 > 0:16:46I still see her face. It haunts me.

0:16:46 > 0:16:48You probably think I deserve that.

0:16:48 > 0:16:50That is not for me to decide.

0:16:51 > 0:16:53What are you going to do?

0:16:53 > 0:16:56- SHE SCREAMS: - I do not know what I'm going to do!

0:16:58 > 0:17:01I just need time to think.

0:17:17 > 0:17:18Can we have a word?

0:17:18 > 0:17:21I was just going shopping. So...

0:17:21 > 0:17:23It won't take long. It's about Anita.

0:17:23 > 0:17:25Erm, oh, she's not here.

0:17:25 > 0:17:26Where is she, Mrs Heaton?

0:17:26 > 0:17:29She's, erm, playing out on her bike.

0:17:29 > 0:17:33Your daughter phoned me, sounding quite distressed.

0:17:33 > 0:17:34Said she was in the house.

0:17:36 > 0:17:37She's winding you up.

0:17:37 > 0:17:40Honestly, you can't believe a word she says.

0:17:40 > 0:17:42We'd still like to be sure and check.

0:17:42 > 0:17:44Like I said, she's not here. So...

0:17:44 > 0:17:45If she's out and she's playing,

0:17:45 > 0:17:48she'll have her phone with her, won't she? So...

0:17:48 > 0:17:49Oh, no.

0:17:49 > 0:17:51She's probably got it switched off, actually.

0:17:51 > 0:17:53You're wasting your time.

0:17:53 > 0:17:58ANITA'S MOBILE RINGS

0:17:59 > 0:18:01She left it behind.

0:18:01 > 0:18:03I forgot.

0:18:03 > 0:18:05I only just picked it up, so...

0:18:05 > 0:18:07Right. I need to search the house.

0:18:07 > 0:18:09Well, you're going to need a warrant then.

0:18:09 > 0:18:12No, not if I think she's in danger.

0:18:12 > 0:18:16- Anita!- Anita! - She's not here.

0:18:16 > 0:18:18Anita! Anita!

0:18:18 > 0:18:21- She's not here.- Anita!

0:18:21 > 0:18:23HEY! HEY! HELP ME!

0:18:23 > 0:18:26- Rob.- Yeah?- Rob.

0:18:27 > 0:18:30- Rob, move this.- Yeah.

0:18:30 > 0:18:32Hey. Whoa, whoa, whoa. It's OK

0:18:32 > 0:18:33She locked herself in there!

0:18:33 > 0:18:36- She would do anything to get attention.- Drop it.

0:18:36 > 0:18:38You stupid girl.

0:18:39 > 0:18:42- I'm sorry, Mum.- No, it's OK.

0:18:49 > 0:18:52OK. Now, if it starts to hurt, breathe.

0:18:52 > 0:18:54Breathe into it.

0:18:54 > 0:18:57Do what your body's comfortable with.

0:18:57 > 0:18:58OK, the pigeon pose.

0:18:58 > 0:19:02Left knee forward.

0:19:02 > 0:19:03Right leg back,

0:19:03 > 0:19:05bending the right knee.

0:19:07 > 0:19:11Oww! I've got cramp.

0:19:12 > 0:19:13OK, let me help you.

0:19:13 > 0:19:17No, I... No, I'm fine.

0:19:17 > 0:19:20SHE GROANS IN PAIN

0:19:20 > 0:19:22OK, everyone, let's take a break.

0:19:22 > 0:19:2315 minutes.

0:19:28 > 0:19:31It was Mum's idea. She taught us all.

0:19:31 > 0:19:32All?

0:19:32 > 0:19:33Me and the other kids.

0:19:35 > 0:19:37How did she find them all?

0:19:38 > 0:19:41They were my friends.

0:19:41 > 0:19:42And their friends.

0:19:42 > 0:19:44She called it an after-school club.

0:19:44 > 0:19:46They'd come round. She'd give us all tea.

0:19:46 > 0:19:48What about their parents?

0:19:48 > 0:19:52They thought it was great. Free baby-sitting. They'd no idea.

0:19:53 > 0:19:55She said she was teaching us all skills.

0:19:56 > 0:19:57Well, she was.

0:19:57 > 0:20:00It was fun. It was like a game, at first.

0:20:01 > 0:20:04Right. So, she taught you all how to pick pockets?

0:20:04 > 0:20:06Yeah.

0:20:06 > 0:20:08She knows all the tricks.

0:20:08 > 0:20:11She's a really good teacher. She said I was the best,

0:20:11 > 0:20:12out of all of them.

0:20:12 > 0:20:13Right.

0:20:13 > 0:20:15And then you all went out thieving?

0:20:15 > 0:20:16Yeah.

0:20:18 > 0:20:20- She paid us.- How much?

0:20:20 > 0:20:22Five pounds every time we did someone.

0:20:22 > 0:20:23We were earning real money.

0:20:23 > 0:20:25How often would you go thieving?

0:20:25 > 0:20:28Most days. After school, weekends.

0:20:28 > 0:20:30I'm not sorry I did it.

0:20:30 > 0:20:33I had to support her.

0:20:33 > 0:20:34Why?

0:20:34 > 0:20:36Shouldn't your mum be supporting you?

0:20:36 > 0:20:38Mum can't work.

0:20:38 > 0:20:40She's depressed.

0:20:40 > 0:20:42It's not her fault.

0:20:42 > 0:20:44Sometimes, she'd just start crying

0:20:44 > 0:20:46and say she didn't know how we would manage.

0:20:46 > 0:20:47We'd lose the house.

0:20:47 > 0:20:49Then I'd go out, and work harder.

0:20:49 > 0:20:51I could do it. I could support us both.

0:20:51 > 0:20:55How many people do you reckon you've robbed?

0:20:55 > 0:20:5757.

0:20:57 > 0:20:59I can count. I'm good with numbers. Like with your phone.

0:20:59 > 0:21:01Mum took away the card,

0:21:01 > 0:21:03but I memorised the number.

0:21:03 > 0:21:06Right, so, if you didn't steal enough,

0:21:06 > 0:21:07or if you got caught,

0:21:07 > 0:21:09is that when you got punished?

0:21:11 > 0:21:12Yeah.

0:21:12 > 0:21:14I think we can take a break now.

0:21:14 > 0:21:15Do you want a drink?

0:21:19 > 0:21:21Emma,

0:21:21 > 0:21:22you OK?

0:21:22 > 0:21:24I just want some alone time.

0:21:24 > 0:21:26What are you going to do?

0:21:26 > 0:21:27Something that will help me relax.

0:21:27 > 0:21:29Something I don't get to do very often.

0:21:29 > 0:21:31And I don't need company.

0:21:36 > 0:21:40AAAGH!

0:21:44 > 0:21:45What about Ryan?

0:21:45 > 0:21:47Was he involved?

0:21:47 > 0:21:48Him? He's too stupid.

0:21:48 > 0:21:51He just cloned the credit cards and he wasn't even good at that.

0:21:51 > 0:21:54None of the other kids told their parents anything?

0:21:54 > 0:21:55Too scared.

0:21:55 > 0:21:58Mum said if we did we'd go to prison. Young Offenders.

0:21:58 > 0:22:01We were the ones who'd done the robbing, after all.

0:22:01 > 0:22:02And if they got arrested?

0:22:02 > 0:22:04Say nothing, get bailed, go home.

0:22:05 > 0:22:08If we did, get the police on the phone to Mum.

0:22:08 > 0:22:09She'd come sort it out.

0:22:09 > 0:22:12"Keep your head down. Say 'No comment'"?

0:22:13 > 0:22:14Yeah.

0:22:14 > 0:22:17OK. Tell us about the cupboard.

0:22:19 > 0:22:20Take your time.

0:22:23 > 0:22:27She didn't do that to the other kids.

0:22:27 > 0:22:29She couldn't.

0:22:31 > 0:22:33Just me.

0:22:33 > 0:22:35How many times?

0:22:35 > 0:22:38- Eight, counting today. - How long did she leave you?

0:22:38 > 0:22:40All night.

0:22:42 > 0:22:45The lights in there don't work, so, it's dark.

0:22:47 > 0:22:49No food or water.

0:22:50 > 0:22:52No toilet.

0:22:52 > 0:22:54So...

0:22:54 > 0:22:55SHE SOBS

0:22:57 > 0:23:00But the worse thing,

0:23:00 > 0:23:04today I got caught.

0:23:04 > 0:23:07So, I thought she was just going to...

0:23:07 > 0:23:10shut me in there...

0:23:10 > 0:23:11and leave me.

0:23:13 > 0:23:16Leave me to die.

0:23:16 > 0:23:18SHE SOBS

0:23:18 > 0:23:19She's said that before.

0:23:24 > 0:23:27She's not going to get in real trouble, is she?

0:23:27 > 0:23:28I don't want her to go to prison.

0:23:31 > 0:23:32I just want her to stop.

0:23:46 > 0:23:49When I was in Botswana,

0:23:49 > 0:23:53seven years old,

0:23:53 > 0:23:56a girl in my class was raped by her uncle.

0:23:58 > 0:24:01I have met other rape victims since.

0:24:02 > 0:24:06But none were raped because of what they were wearing.

0:24:08 > 0:24:12I do not like the immodest way some women dress in this country,

0:24:12 > 0:24:15but they do not deserve to be raped.

0:24:15 > 0:24:17No-one deserves that.

0:24:17 > 0:24:19- I know.- But...

0:24:19 > 0:24:22you have started praying.

0:24:22 > 0:24:24You are trying to change.

0:24:26 > 0:24:29So, I cannot give up on you.

0:24:32 > 0:24:35You need a Christian soul to help you

0:24:35 > 0:24:37through your struggle,

0:24:37 > 0:24:40and it seems that God has chosen me for this,

0:24:40 > 0:24:41whether I like it or not.

0:24:43 > 0:24:47I am sorry that I was weak before,

0:24:47 > 0:24:50but I am here now.

0:24:50 > 0:24:54I will really try to help you.

0:24:54 > 0:24:56Thank you.

0:24:56 > 0:24:59Thank you so much.

0:25:02 > 0:25:06Do not thank me.

0:25:06 > 0:25:07Thank God.

0:25:07 > 0:25:11CHURCH BELLS CHIME

0:25:22 > 0:25:25They've sorted out an emergency foster care placement.

0:25:25 > 0:25:27So, she'll be better off. She'll be safer.

0:25:27 > 0:25:30Yeah, but she's not going to see it that way, is she?

0:25:30 > 0:25:31MOBILE RINGS

0:25:31 > 0:25:34Why don't you just take the call, mate?

0:25:34 > 0:25:37Why don't you mind your own business?

0:25:37 > 0:25:38Jimmi...

0:25:38 > 0:25:39sorry.

0:25:49 > 0:25:53That's awful. I had no idea.

0:25:53 > 0:25:55If I'd known, I'd...

0:25:55 > 0:25:58If you could just wait over there, we'll give you a call

0:25:58 > 0:26:01as soon as we're ready for you. Thank you.

0:26:01 > 0:26:03You're Anita.

0:26:03 > 0:26:05Yeah.

0:26:05 > 0:26:06Sorry I took your bag.

0:26:06 > 0:26:09Rob. I've been ringing.

0:26:09 > 0:26:10It doesn't matter.

0:26:11 > 0:26:14Will you be all right?

0:26:14 > 0:26:15Excuse me.

0:26:15 > 0:26:17Rob!

0:26:17 > 0:26:18Rob!

0:26:29 > 0:26:31Breakfast is served, ma'am.

0:26:32 > 0:26:33Boom diddy boom.

0:26:33 > 0:26:35He only moved in two weeks ago.

0:26:35 > 0:26:37- Moved in?- Why not?

0:26:37 > 0:26:39It's been a year since Arthur died.

0:26:39 > 0:26:40I need to speak to Mary.

0:26:40 > 0:26:41Mary's out.

0:26:41 > 0:26:43Well, you can wait.

0:26:43 > 0:26:45- Mi casa...- It's Mary's casa.

0:26:45 > 0:26:46'He's a right chancer.'

0:26:46 > 0:26:48Good luck to them, I say.

0:26:48 > 0:26:50You won't find me jumping on the funeral pyre,

0:26:50 > 0:26:51if Daniel goes first.