17/08/2012

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0:00:42 > 0:00:43It's the police.

0:00:48 > 0:00:51You need to stop worrying about what he's saying

0:00:51 > 0:00:54and concentrate on what you're going to say.

0:00:54 > 0:00:57He thinks he's making things right.

0:00:57 > 0:01:01But getting put away, it don't make you an hero, it makes you a mug.

0:01:03 > 0:01:06People think, don't they, that it'll cure them.

0:01:06 > 0:01:09Wash away their sins, like confession or something.

0:01:11 > 0:01:13I never met an ex con who thinks that.

0:01:13 > 0:01:15I expect he thinks he's doing the noble thing.

0:01:15 > 0:01:18There's nothing noble in a six by four cell.

0:01:21 > 0:01:23You need to stick to your story.

0:01:23 > 0:01:26You met them at the garage. You went home for dinner.

0:01:27 > 0:01:29And what about before I got there?

0:01:29 > 0:01:32How could you know what happened before you got there?

0:01:33 > 0:01:36He refused your help. Didn't want to see me.

0:01:37 > 0:01:40You got to the garage at 7.20,

0:01:40 > 0:01:42just like you said in your statement.

0:01:42 > 0:01:44Whatever happened before...

0:01:44 > 0:01:45happened before.

0:01:49 > 0:01:52It was just me. Why's that so hard to believe?

0:01:52 > 0:01:55Calm down, Ben. You've got what you want. We're listening.

0:01:55 > 0:01:58I'm just saying. I was on my own.

0:02:00 > 0:02:01As you're so keen to assert.

0:02:02 > 0:02:06How long are they taking? Have they found anything yet?

0:02:19 > 0:02:22"There were signs of a break-in when we entered the property."

0:02:22 > 0:02:23Yeah, well, I roughed it up a bit,

0:02:23 > 0:02:25you know, made it look like a burglary.

0:02:25 > 0:02:27What made you do that?

0:02:27 > 0:02:29That's a bit of a stupid question, innit?

0:02:29 > 0:02:32I'm just trying to figure out how a frightened,

0:02:32 > 0:02:3416-year-old boy had the presence of mind

0:02:34 > 0:02:39to cover his tracks moments after killing a close friend.

0:02:39 > 0:02:41Yeah, well, everything was sharp, you know,

0:02:41 > 0:02:42it was like I was seeing it in HD.

0:02:42 > 0:02:45Must have been the adrenaline or something.

0:02:45 > 0:02:47So it just occurred to you to fake a burglary?

0:02:47 > 0:02:49Yeah.

0:02:49 > 0:02:51And when I done that, it occurred to me

0:02:51 > 0:02:53that I needed to change my clothes.

0:02:53 > 0:02:55So I went to the Arches and, well, Jay was there.

0:02:55 > 0:03:00Ah, yes, Jay. Of course. Tell me about Jay.

0:03:04 > 0:03:10Well, he was there... and he was working on a car.

0:03:10 > 0:03:14Well, at least Jay was, Ben was holding the lamp.

0:03:14 > 0:03:16It's about as technical as he can get.

0:03:16 > 0:03:19But you've got all this in my statement, ain't you?

0:03:19 > 0:03:22How did Ben seem?

0:03:22 > 0:03:23Fine.

0:03:23 > 0:03:25You'd just been released from custody

0:03:25 > 0:03:29after he lied to put you there and he seemed fine?

0:03:29 > 0:03:31I'd be terrified if you were my dad.

0:03:31 > 0:03:33Well, I wouldn't have a son like you.

0:03:35 > 0:03:36I asked you how he seemed.

0:03:39 > 0:03:42He said sorry. That he wanted to sort things out.

0:03:42 > 0:03:44That he wanted us to be a proper family again.

0:03:44 > 0:03:47I said sure. And he was relieved.

0:03:47 > 0:03:50No, he didn't seem like he'd just killed someone.

0:03:50 > 0:03:52But he could have done.

0:03:52 > 0:03:57It took you...an hour to get there after you'd been released.

0:03:57 > 0:03:59When was the last time you used a bus?

0:03:59 > 0:04:02Still, you didn't get there till 7.20.

0:04:02 > 0:04:05- He could have done it before. - He was with Jay.

0:04:05 > 0:04:09Oh, that's right. He was with Jay.

0:04:12 > 0:04:14What do you mean, what did we talk about?

0:04:14 > 0:04:18I mean just that. You'd just left Heather's body.

0:04:18 > 0:04:22Her child was asleep in his bed. You must have been terrified.

0:04:23 > 0:04:25Didn't Jay notice you acting strangely?

0:04:26 > 0:04:27No.

0:04:27 > 0:04:31He didn't wonder why you needed to change clothes?

0:04:31 > 0:04:32Change clothes?

0:04:32 > 0:04:35Yes. That's why you went to the garage, right?

0:04:35 > 0:04:36Yeah, yeah, yeah.

0:04:36 > 0:04:40Right. So, what did he say when you started to change clothes?

0:04:42 > 0:04:43Nothing.

0:04:43 > 0:04:45He didn't think it odd?

0:04:47 > 0:04:51As my client said, Jay was busy working on the car.

0:04:53 > 0:04:58Now, according to your statements taken on that night, you were working on it together.

0:04:58 > 0:05:02Look, Jay's not important, all right? It was just me! I did it. Not him.

0:05:02 > 0:05:05Why would I think he'd done it?

0:05:09 > 0:05:11I came back to the only place I knew,

0:05:11 > 0:05:14banging on Phil Mitchell's door in my wedding dress.

0:05:14 > 0:05:18I just didn't know how I was going to get Denny back, you know.

0:05:18 > 0:05:21How long does it take to go to the loo, eh?

0:05:21 > 0:05:23He's all right. So, what now?

0:05:23 > 0:05:28Hmm? Oh, Kimberly's Palace? Apparently it's OK.

0:05:29 > 0:05:32You do remember that you invited us to the pub?

0:05:32 > 0:05:36Join us. If you trust your husband anywhere near me.

0:05:36 > 0:05:39I thought you liked them the right side of 30.

0:05:41 > 0:05:43Go back to your friends, Jack.

0:05:43 > 0:05:45They're not my friends.

0:05:45 > 0:05:47See, that's my family and I'm stuck with them, ain't I?

0:05:47 > 0:05:49You're not stuck with me.

0:05:49 > 0:05:54No. I'm sitting here because I want to sit here.

0:06:21 > 0:06:24Where's Bobby's games?

0:06:24 > 0:06:28We had to sell most of them. To buy food.

0:06:40 > 0:06:41Thank you.

0:06:42 > 0:06:43What? That's it?

0:06:43 > 0:06:46We need to investigate whether you were involved in a cover-up,

0:06:46 > 0:06:49but you can't account for Ben's whereabouts at the time of the murder.

0:06:49 > 0:06:50No, I never said that.

0:06:50 > 0:06:52PHONE BEEPS

0:06:57 > 0:06:59Excuse me a moment.

0:06:59 > 0:07:03Hang on a sec, I never said that! I never said that!

0:07:07 > 0:07:11I'm still waiting for an answer, Ben.

0:07:13 > 0:07:15KNOCK AT THE DOOR

0:07:15 > 0:07:16Yeah?

0:07:16 > 0:07:20- For the benefit of the tape, DS Crisp has entered the room. - We're at the property now.

0:07:20 > 0:07:22Finally!

0:07:22 > 0:07:24They haven't found a picture frame.

0:07:25 > 0:07:27I left it on the table! I swear!

0:07:27 > 0:07:29Either you're lying and none of this is true,

0:07:29 > 0:07:30or your family's hidden it,

0:07:30 > 0:07:32which makes them an accessory to murder.

0:07:34 > 0:07:37Nobody else knows about it. Nobody apart from me.

0:07:39 > 0:07:43Interview suspended at 22.20.

0:07:43 > 0:07:44I hope you're right.

0:07:44 > 0:07:47Or you're going to end up taking everyone down with you.

0:07:54 > 0:07:55So, what are you playing at?

0:07:55 > 0:07:58- I'm just giving the girl some company.- Pfft!

0:07:58 > 0:08:00GLASS SMASHES

0:08:00 > 0:08:01- Oh!- Careful, darling!

0:08:01 > 0:08:03Take that off. Oh, what have you done?

0:08:03 > 0:08:04Here, have a tissue.

0:08:04 > 0:08:08I got another one for you here. Look.

0:08:08 > 0:08:10It's too big!

0:08:10 > 0:08:11It's not too big. It's the fashion.

0:08:11 > 0:08:15Everyone's wearing them too big now, aren't they, Max?

0:08:15 > 0:08:16Yeah.

0:08:16 > 0:08:18- Yeah, see? You look the part. - What you doing?

0:08:18 > 0:08:20I poured my drink over him.

0:08:20 > 0:08:23Well, you can't take this. It's far too big.

0:08:23 > 0:08:25Go on, he can borrow it.

0:08:25 > 0:08:28- You're supposed to wear them big, Mum.- I said give it back!

0:08:28 > 0:08:30Come on, we've got to get to the B&B before it locks up.

0:08:30 > 0:08:31Give the kid a break.

0:08:31 > 0:08:33Excuse me? What do you know about my life, eh?

0:08:33 > 0:08:36Listen, you've only just bought these drinks, ain't you?

0:08:36 > 0:08:39Look, thanks for everything, you've been really kind.

0:08:39 > 0:08:41Yeah, well, you're easy to be kind to.

0:08:41 > 0:08:44Come on, Denny, it's just across the Square.

0:08:44 > 0:08:45She's a piece of work, she is.

0:08:45 > 0:08:47Sharon.

0:08:50 > 0:08:54Look, Kim's place ain't all that. Come to mine.

0:08:54 > 0:08:56I got a big telly, computer games.

0:08:56 > 0:08:58Amazing!

0:08:58 > 0:09:00- Look, we don't know you. - Look, just let me help.- Why?

0:09:00 > 0:09:04Ain't like that. It's not safe out there.

0:09:04 > 0:09:05It's late.

0:09:05 > 0:09:07How do I know it's safe at yours?

0:09:07 > 0:09:11Oh, right, so first off you say I look like some crooked diamond dealer,

0:09:11 > 0:09:13and now I look like a serial killer, do I?

0:09:13 > 0:09:15Clearly, you need to work on your image.

0:09:15 > 0:09:17Image?

0:09:17 > 0:09:19I'm not the one walking round the streets with a kid, am I?

0:09:19 > 0:09:21I didn't mean that.

0:09:21 > 0:09:24Listen, my place ain't exactly the honeymoon suite,

0:09:24 > 0:09:26but it's better than an hostel.

0:09:26 > 0:09:30And if you don't trust me, take the keys, I'll stay at my brother's.

0:09:32 > 0:09:34Please, Mum.

0:09:40 > 0:09:42KNOCK AT THE DOOR

0:09:47 > 0:09:49Shirley, I'm sorry about this.

0:09:49 > 0:09:51Yeah, course you are.

0:09:51 > 0:09:54Any idea why the object isn't where Ben tells us it is?

0:09:57 > 0:10:00- Jay, I'm going to need you to come down to the station.- Why?

0:10:00 > 0:10:03- What do you want to talk to him for? - Just routine.

0:10:03 > 0:10:05If you'd like to go with one of my colleagues.

0:10:14 > 0:10:16Why don't you and me have a little talk?

0:10:41 > 0:10:43I was just looking.

0:10:43 > 0:10:48You can have the soup, Dad. You're in my room.

0:10:48 > 0:10:50But I'm not making the bed for you.

0:10:51 > 0:10:52Well, what about my bed?

0:10:52 > 0:10:57I'm in there with Joey. He'll be back later.

0:11:02 > 0:11:03And I'm not cooking for you, either.

0:11:10 > 0:11:12Sorry.

0:11:13 > 0:11:19For what? Just don't make a noise when you come up.

0:11:30 > 0:11:34You know why we're here? Ben's confessed to murdering Heather.

0:11:37 > 0:11:40Must be a shock. Assuming you knew nothing about it.

0:11:40 > 0:11:42What do you take me for?

0:11:44 > 0:11:50Can't say I believe him. Ending a life, it's profound.

0:11:50 > 0:11:51Has a profound effect.

0:11:51 > 0:11:54I can't believe he could just sit round a dinner table with you all

0:11:54 > 0:11:56and manage not to give himself away.

0:11:56 > 0:11:58He's too fragile.

0:11:59 > 0:12:00Don't let him fool you.

0:12:07 > 0:12:12So you think he did it? Why?

0:12:12 > 0:12:14He's just a little boy.

0:12:14 > 0:12:16He's never been just a little boy, has he?

0:12:16 > 0:12:20My colleague, DCI Marsden, wants to do him for wasting our time,

0:12:20 > 0:12:22but I really don't think that's going to help.

0:12:22 > 0:12:25So you're just going to let him go?

0:12:25 > 0:12:28That's what we do with innocent people.

0:12:31 > 0:12:34What about Heather? She was innocent.

0:12:34 > 0:12:36Come on. We've done all we can here.

0:12:36 > 0:12:37I said, what about Heather?

0:12:41 > 0:12:43It gets easier, Shirley.

0:12:43 > 0:12:45I promise.

0:12:51 > 0:12:55You know, there's only one way that this will get easier.

0:13:40 > 0:13:43# If that horse and cart falls down

0:13:43 > 0:13:48# You'll still be the sweetest little boy in town

0:13:48 > 0:13:53# So hush little baby, don't you cry

0:13:54 > 0:13:59# Your daddy loves you and so do I. #

0:14:13 > 0:14:15Thanks for talking me into this.

0:14:15 > 0:14:17Thanks for trusting me.

0:14:17 > 0:14:22Well, you're easy to trust. Want a nightcap?

0:14:23 > 0:14:28Shirl? Shirl, what were the police doing here?

0:14:28 > 0:14:30Shirl, what have you done to Jay?

0:14:30 > 0:14:32I knew I shouldn't have left him here.

0:14:34 > 0:14:38It's Ben. Ben!

0:14:39 > 0:14:40What?

0:14:42 > 0:14:44Ben's a murderer.

0:14:48 > 0:14:53That night. Jay said he had food poisoning.

0:14:53 > 0:14:54He didn't.

0:14:55 > 0:14:58He'd just watched Ben kill Heather.

0:15:11 > 0:15:13Ben says he murdered her.

0:15:15 > 0:15:19Now, according to your statement, taken on that night,

0:15:19 > 0:15:20you were with him.

0:15:23 > 0:15:25So that puts you at the scene of the crime as well.

0:15:25 > 0:15:28No. No it doesn't! Cos I was at the Arches,

0:15:28 > 0:15:29working on a car.

0:15:30 > 0:15:31Jay...

0:15:33 > 0:15:37..Phil only cares about getting his son off, and the only thing

0:15:37 > 0:15:40he hasn't tried yet is pointing the finger at you.

0:15:43 > 0:15:47Do you really think he won't resort to that? When he gets desperate?

0:15:47 > 0:15:50We stick together. We're family.

0:15:55 > 0:15:56PHONE BEEPS

0:16:05 > 0:16:08Interview suspended at 23.03.

0:16:19 > 0:16:22We've got the picture frame. It's with forensics now.

0:16:23 > 0:16:25I really thought he was lying.

0:16:25 > 0:16:29We might not get anything off it after all this time.

0:16:29 > 0:16:32If we don't there's nothing to stop Ben retracting his statement.

0:16:32 > 0:16:33There's no way he acted alone.

0:16:33 > 0:16:37- Killed her then sat round the dinner table with his family. - You think the dad?

0:16:37 > 0:16:39Who else?

0:16:39 > 0:16:40Phil can soak up our questions forever.

0:16:40 > 0:16:44Let's focus on the boys. They're not cut out for this.

0:16:48 > 0:16:50Do you think I'll ever see my house again?

0:16:52 > 0:16:55There's no point in dwelling on that.

0:16:57 > 0:17:00It's funny. I keep trying to picture it but...

0:17:00 > 0:17:02it's all a blur.

0:17:09 > 0:17:11Well? Did you find it?

0:17:12 > 0:17:14MACHINE BUZZES

0:17:19 > 0:17:21BUZZING STOPS

0:17:21 > 0:17:24Interview commencing at 23.06 at Walford police station on August 13th.

0:17:24 > 0:17:27Those present are myself DS Crisp, Ben Mitchell, Mike Sommers,

0:17:27 > 0:17:29duty solicitor, and Mary Smith, appropriate adult.

0:17:29 > 0:17:31Was Shirley and Jay there? Are they all right?

0:17:31 > 0:17:34You've gone round to Heather's. You think she's dropped you in it.

0:17:34 > 0:17:37Things get nasty. Phil comes in, after your blood.

0:17:38 > 0:17:39You found it.

0:17:39 > 0:17:41Maybe you've killed her.

0:17:41 > 0:17:43Maybe there's a struggle and he's killed her.

0:17:43 > 0:17:44Either way, he knows.

0:17:44 > 0:17:45No!

0:17:45 > 0:17:47Now, he's been around. Acts fast.

0:17:47 > 0:17:50Fakes a robbery while you're still trying to work out

0:17:50 > 0:17:52what's just happened to the rest of your life.

0:17:52 > 0:17:53No. I did it.

0:17:53 > 0:17:58He gets you through it. His idea of good parenting, no doubt.

0:17:58 > 0:18:01The only thing I don't get is, you can finally bring him down,

0:18:01 > 0:18:03only this time, you're protecting him.

0:18:03 > 0:18:06No! No! No, I ain't, all right? Just ask Jay, all right?

0:18:06 > 0:18:08It was me!

0:18:10 > 0:18:11Why would Jay know?

0:18:14 > 0:18:16I can see you want to talk.

0:18:19 > 0:18:21Come on, the story's ridiculous.

0:18:23 > 0:18:24Ben kills Heather,

0:18:24 > 0:18:28sees you five minutes later and you don't notice anything odd about him?

0:18:28 > 0:18:31He's not upset. He's not agitated.

0:18:31 > 0:18:34You don't notice him change out of any bloody clothes.

0:18:34 > 0:18:36I was working on a car.

0:18:36 > 0:18:40I thought you were working on it together? Which is it?

0:18:42 > 0:18:44We was working on it together.

0:18:45 > 0:18:49But he says he wasn't. He says he found you there.

0:18:51 > 0:18:53Jay, come on.

0:18:55 > 0:18:57You know I'm not asking you to grass him up?

0:18:59 > 0:19:01Ben's already told us what happened.

0:19:06 > 0:19:08I'm beginning to think you're more involved in this

0:19:08 > 0:19:09than Ben's letting on.

0:19:11 > 0:19:14Are you telling me that Jay did this?

0:19:15 > 0:19:19Jay will get the Arches. Get married.

0:19:21 > 0:19:24Abi. Or maybe Lola.

0:19:25 > 0:19:30He'll have kids. He'll have it all.

0:19:31 > 0:19:34He deserves it. He's good.

0:19:39 > 0:19:42He didn't do this. And neither did my dad.

0:19:43 > 0:19:45I did all this.

0:19:47 > 0:19:49You're an unreliable witness.

0:19:49 > 0:19:52Even with the frame, I'm not putting this before the CPS...

0:19:52 > 0:19:54Do you need someone else, then?

0:19:54 > 0:19:57- You need someone else to back me up?- Yes.

0:19:57 > 0:19:59Let me talk to Jay.

0:19:59 > 0:20:01I'm not going to do that.

0:20:01 > 0:20:02At least let me get a message to him?

0:20:02 > 0:20:05I can't, no.

0:20:15 > 0:20:19Interview suspended at ten minutes past midnight.

0:20:19 > 0:20:22I'm going to get DCI Marsden for a quick coffee.

0:21:08 > 0:21:10Thank you.

0:21:35 > 0:21:37For your client.

0:22:02 > 0:22:05You should have seen the bridal suite we were staying in tonight.

0:22:05 > 0:22:09It had floor to ceiling windows overlooking the river.

0:22:09 > 0:22:12This fire place that came out the floor and...

0:22:12 > 0:22:16this big tropical fish tank. It was beautiful.

0:22:16 > 0:22:18You know, when we booked it,

0:22:18 > 0:22:23we lay on the bed and somehow, it just seemed...wrong.

0:22:23 > 0:22:25Ugly.

0:22:25 > 0:22:29Like all that beauty had shone a light on us, and shown us up.

0:22:29 > 0:22:31That's when I knew it was over.

0:22:31 > 0:22:33You just got post-wedding blues.

0:22:34 > 0:22:40There was no wedding, was there? I remain unmarried. Single.

0:22:41 > 0:22:44You know, I can take things going wrong,

0:22:44 > 0:22:48I just don't want to spend my wedding night on my own.

0:22:51 > 0:22:53You sure this won't shine a light on us?

0:23:01 > 0:23:04You were there, weren't you? You saw him murder her.

0:23:06 > 0:23:08Bet you were scared. Just carried along.

0:23:08 > 0:23:10All right, just stop.

0:23:12 > 0:23:13Look what it's done to you.

0:23:16 > 0:23:18I didn't kill her.

0:23:20 > 0:23:23Either we charge you both, jointly, with her murder...

0:23:26 > 0:23:29..or you do what Ben wants you to do.

0:23:43 > 0:23:45Do you know Laurel and Hardy?

0:23:45 > 0:23:48- I don't follow.- It's not a difficult question, is it?

0:23:48 > 0:23:50Of course I do.

0:23:53 > 0:23:56What one was the fat one and what one was the thin one?

0:23:58 > 0:23:59Does it matter?

0:24:29 > 0:24:30Sharon?

0:24:57 > 0:24:59Uniform.

0:25:01 > 0:25:05- Yeah, I thought you could start off by cleaning the fryers.- Thank you.

0:25:09 > 0:25:12He's here with the contracts, so you can sign over the businesses.

0:25:16 > 0:25:19If you could just sign here...

0:25:21 > 0:25:24..here and here.

0:25:26 > 0:25:28I don't have a choice.

0:25:29 > 0:25:32I know.

0:25:32 > 0:25:34It's OK.

0:25:44 > 0:25:47Here...

0:25:47 > 0:25:48and here.

0:25:57 > 0:26:00Here you are. Shirl. Here you are.

0:26:02 > 0:26:04DOOR OPENS

0:26:04 > 0:26:08Are the boys back? The old bill wouldn't tell me anything.

0:26:08 > 0:26:12You tried to make me protect my best mate's murderer.

0:26:15 > 0:26:17What have you done to me?

0:26:43 > 0:26:44Come on, son.

0:27:07 > 0:27:08Ben Mitchell...

0:27:08 > 0:27:11Is Jay here? Is Jay Mitchell here?

0:27:11 > 0:27:15..you will be charged with one count of murder for the murder

0:27:15 > 0:27:20of Heather Trott on the 22nd March, 2012, at 57A Turpin Road, Walford...

0:27:20 > 0:27:24which is counter to common law. Do you understand the charge?

0:27:24 > 0:27:26You are not obliged to say anything,

0:27:26 > 0:27:29but anything you do say may be given in evidence....

0:27:43 > 0:27:45Look, I just need to know.

0:27:45 > 0:27:47Is he coming to court an' all?

0:27:58 > 0:28:03DS Crisp. Oi! They're taking me to court.

0:28:03 > 0:28:05But they ain't telling me where Jay is.

0:28:08 > 0:28:11He's been charged with perverting the course of justice and bailed.

0:28:14 > 0:28:18He did what I asked? He backed me up?

0:28:22 > 0:28:24You're on your own now.

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