Exclusive Scene: Police interview Jay Brown (05/09/2014)

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0:00:00 > 0:00:03On the 18th of April, 2014,

0:00:03 > 0:00:07Lucy Beale travelled on a number 15 bus in East London.

0:00:07 > 0:00:10- Fats, turn it off. - Wait, man. Wait, wait, wait!

0:00:11 > 0:00:12This is our chance to get away.

0:00:14 > 0:00:15Look out, Bolton, here we come!

0:00:15 > 0:00:18PHIL: They've got a lead on the bloke on the bus, apparently.

0:00:18 > 0:00:21Why don't we just go tonight? What are we waiting for?

0:00:21 > 0:00:23Jay Brown, could you come with us, please?

0:00:27 > 0:00:30This is ridiculous! I should be on a train.

0:00:33 > 0:00:35Look, mate, I ain't done nothing, so why am I here?

0:00:35 > 0:00:38I want to know why I'm here.

0:00:39 > 0:00:41To help us solve a robbery, Mr Brown.

0:00:46 > 0:00:49Jay, please sit down. We just want to ask some questions.

0:00:49 > 0:00:53Well, I know you can't do that without arresting me. I ain't stupid.

0:00:53 > 0:00:55Well, no-one's saying you are.

0:00:56 > 0:00:58The quicker you sit down

0:00:58 > 0:01:01and answer a few questions, the quicker we can sort this.

0:01:07 > 0:01:10So, you have never been to this off-licence?

0:01:10 > 0:01:11No.

0:01:14 > 0:01:17Would you mind taking a proper look at the photo?

0:01:20 > 0:01:2387 Spinner Road.

0:01:23 > 0:01:25Not too far from Albert Square,

0:01:25 > 0:01:27but far enough you wouldn't be recognised.

0:01:27 > 0:01:31Well, like I said, I don't recognise it, because I've never been there.

0:01:36 > 0:01:39(Excuse, me, ma'am. Mr Brown's solicitor's here to see you.)

0:01:43 > 0:01:46If you go with my colleague, we'll continue this in a bit.

0:01:46 > 0:01:49Look, I don't know nothing about no robbery.

0:02:17 > 0:02:21I want some time alone, please, with Mr Brown.

0:02:23 > 0:02:25Billy Mitchell and now Mr Brown.

0:02:26 > 0:02:28We HAVE been keeping you busy.

0:02:30 > 0:02:34I would like to talk to my client, please, in complete privacy.

0:02:35 > 0:02:38And I want THAT turned off.

0:02:41 > 0:02:43I didn't do it.

0:02:43 > 0:02:46Jay, I need the truth, so I can sort this.

0:02:48 > 0:02:50It wasn't me.

0:02:54 > 0:02:56My client has nothing further to say.

0:03:02 > 0:03:03You weren't alone, were you?

0:03:06 > 0:03:08Who was with you?

0:03:13 > 0:03:16There were two suspects involved in this robbery.

0:03:18 > 0:03:21We firmly believe you were one of them, Mr Brown.

0:03:22 > 0:03:25My client has nothing else to say.

0:03:25 > 0:03:27Who were you there with, Jay?

0:03:28 > 0:03:30- I wasn't there. - This is getting us nowhere,

0:03:30 > 0:03:32so I suggest we leave this now

0:03:32 > 0:03:35and if you want to talk to my client further,

0:03:35 > 0:03:38then maybe you need to think about questioning him under caution.

0:03:47 > 0:03:49Jay Brown, I'm arresting you

0:03:49 > 0:03:52on suspicion of the robbery of 87 Spinner Road.

0:03:53 > 0:03:56You do not have to say anything, but it may harm your defence

0:03:56 > 0:03:59if you fail to mention, when questioned,

0:03:59 > 0:04:02something on which you may rely later in court.

0:04:10 > 0:04:14We have a positive ID from the owner of the off-licence.

0:04:14 > 0:04:17He gave us a very accurate description of you

0:04:17 > 0:04:21and says you were there with another lad.

0:04:22 > 0:04:25My client has nothing to say at this point.

0:04:25 > 0:04:28And do you know why he came forward, Jay?

0:04:28 > 0:04:32Why this man, who you robbed, recognised you?

0:04:36 > 0:04:38He saw the appeal -

0:04:38 > 0:04:42the appeal to help us catch Lucy Beale's murderer.

0:04:57 > 0:05:01The only person on that bus we have yet to identify.

0:05:02 > 0:05:08That's the person that the owner of the off-licence said robbed him.

0:05:08 > 0:05:11That lad, sitting on that bus...

0:05:11 > 0:05:14..only feet from Lucy Beale...

0:05:15 > 0:05:18..wearing that distinctive hat.

0:05:19 > 0:05:21Have YOU got a hat like that, Jay?

0:05:22 > 0:05:23HE SIGHS

0:05:23 > 0:05:25I wasn't on that bus...

0:05:26 > 0:05:27..I didn't see Lucy...

0:05:28 > 0:05:31..and I didn't rob any poxy off-licence.

0:05:31 > 0:05:34THAT is not me on that bus.