0:00:02 > 0:00:05This programme contains some strong language and some scenes which some viewers may find upsetting.
0:00:05 > 0:00:07- He's the bloke they let out on bail. - Look what they've done to Daryl.
0:00:07 > 0:00:09- This is the lads you let off with a caution.- I'll nip this in the bud.
0:00:09 > 0:00:11- I will scream. - You shouldn't have done it!
0:00:11 > 0:00:13We've got a bit of a weirdo doing the rounds.
0:00:13 > 0:00:16He's killed three girls. You need to be aware, all right?
0:00:16 > 0:00:18- Leonie, are you listening?- Yeah.
0:00:18 > 0:00:22- Are we looking at the same killer? - Yeah. Not as frenzied. But, yeah.
0:00:22 > 0:00:24You killed my mother, you filthy bitch!
0:00:24 > 0:00:27You're going to get what's coming to you!
0:00:27 > 0:00:29- Do you want to go for a drink sometime?- OK.
0:00:31 > 0:00:33She is poison.
0:00:33 > 0:00:35She needs putting out of her misery, that one.
0:00:35 > 0:00:38I know we try not to have nasty thoughts, Frances, but...
0:00:40 > 0:00:41HE IMITATES A GUNSHOT
0:00:54 > 0:00:55KNOCK ON DOOR
0:00:55 > 0:00:59- It's very good of you to turn out in the middle of the night.- It's fine.
0:00:59 > 0:01:02It's just...those other two didn't seem to take it seriously at all.
0:01:02 > 0:01:05She's here, love. And they were both women.
0:01:05 > 0:01:09They're Specials, part-timers, If it's who I think it is.
0:01:09 > 0:01:11Course, my first thought when she rang me was,
0:01:11 > 0:01:13"Well, what if it's him?"
0:01:13 > 0:01:16So why weren't they thinking the same thing?
0:01:16 > 0:01:18Well, God knows.
0:01:18 > 0:01:19Hello, Leonie.
0:01:21 > 0:01:23He would have strangled her,
0:01:23 > 0:01:24if she hadn't managed to raise the alarm,
0:01:24 > 0:01:27and if this other lass hadn't been just round the corner.
0:01:27 > 0:01:29Tell me about this other lass.
0:01:29 > 0:01:32Kelsey. She just lives up the road. I can give you her number.
0:01:32 > 0:01:34It was her that rang 999.
0:01:34 > 0:01:37Have you got something I can write with?
0:01:37 > 0:01:40Leonie, listen, love, listen to me.
0:01:40 > 0:01:43You're doing really well, you're being really brave.
0:01:43 > 0:01:45LEONIE SNIFFS
0:01:45 > 0:01:49So what's going to happen now is I'm going to take a few details...
0:01:49 > 0:01:52- Will this do?- Ta.
0:01:52 > 0:01:55..and then I'm going to take you down to the station with me.
0:01:55 > 0:01:57You need to make a statement.
0:01:57 > 0:02:00Leonie, look at me.
0:02:00 > 0:02:04Annette can come with us if you like. Would you like that?
0:02:04 > 0:02:08One of the officers... One of the other officers, I can't do it,
0:02:08 > 0:02:11because I'm not on duty, but it'll be a woman, it won't be a man,
0:02:11 > 0:02:15she'll need to go through the early evidence kit with you...
0:02:15 > 0:02:17That's like your swabs and everything.
0:02:17 > 0:02:19..and then we'll take you over to Bradford.
0:02:19 > 0:02:22There's a proper unit there, where they can look after you
0:02:22 > 0:02:25and someone'll see to you, a doctor.
0:02:25 > 0:02:29They'll make sure that you're safe and you're comfortable.
0:02:29 > 0:02:31I've sat her on a plastic bag and then...
0:02:31 > 0:02:33I'm thinking evidence.
0:02:36 > 0:02:38Can you talk me through what's happened?
0:02:38 > 0:02:41I need to hear it from Leonie.
0:02:43 > 0:02:44Just...
0:02:46 > 0:02:48I were on Stoney Royd Lane...
0:02:51 > 0:02:52..and there were three of us.
0:02:54 > 0:02:57And he come along in his van.
0:02:57 > 0:03:00And I said, I told him...
0:03:00 > 0:03:02"It's £5 with, and without, it's double."
0:03:02 > 0:03:04So he knew.
0:03:05 > 0:03:07And he said he were fine with that,
0:03:07 > 0:03:12so I got in and we went down to the cricket club,
0:03:12 > 0:03:13the car park.
0:03:15 > 0:03:18- He stank, he'd been drinking. - They all do.
0:03:20 > 0:03:23And then when he gets going, he decides he wants to do it without.
0:03:23 > 0:03:26They do that.
0:03:26 > 0:03:29So I said, "You have to pay me up front."
0:03:32 > 0:03:35And he goes, "I'll pay you after," but they only ever say that
0:03:35 > 0:03:37when they haven't enough.
0:03:39 > 0:03:41I said, "Well, it's not happening, then."
0:03:44 > 0:03:48But...you know... And I couldn't stop him.
0:03:51 > 0:03:55I was struggling but then he had his hand on my throat.
0:03:58 > 0:04:01He's pressing down on me, he's inside me without a condom
0:04:01 > 0:04:03and I can't breathe.
0:04:05 > 0:04:10And he's a big fella and I can feel meself going red in t'face.
0:04:10 > 0:04:13And he goes, "If you don't stop wriggling, I'm going to shove
0:04:13 > 0:04:15"a broken bottle up you."
0:04:15 > 0:04:19Oh... Did he indeed?
0:04:25 > 0:04:30God knows how, I managed to press my stiletto into t'steering wheel
0:04:30 > 0:04:32and it were more by luck than management,
0:04:32 > 0:04:34but it made the horn go...
0:04:35 > 0:04:37..and that shocked the bastard.
0:04:39 > 0:04:40Shocked me.
0:04:44 > 0:04:47Then...he smacked me in the face and he's spitting and
0:04:47 > 0:04:50calling me all the usual, and he's going, "Get out, get out!"
0:04:50 > 0:04:53- like nasty, and... - And that's when Kelsey turned up.
0:04:53 > 0:04:55She offered to go to t'hospital with her but these two...
0:04:55 > 0:04:57And he's just driven off, then, or what?
0:04:57 > 0:05:00Yeah, when Kelsey started banging on t'window.
0:05:00 > 0:05:04These two uniforms, or specials, whatever, they're saying,
0:05:04 > 0:05:06"No, we're not going to take you, we'll take her
0:05:06 > 0:05:08"because we're not a taxi service."
0:05:10 > 0:05:12- Did you tell them what he'd said to you?- They didn't ask.
0:05:12 > 0:05:15They didn't take a statement, they didn't write owt down.
0:05:15 > 0:05:16Basically they're saying,
0:05:16 > 0:05:19"Oh, right, love, has he not paid you, then? Boo-hoo."
0:05:21 > 0:05:25So did either of you...of you or Kelsey recognise him?
0:05:25 > 0:05:27Is he someone you've been with before?
0:05:29 > 0:05:31No, but she's got his number.
0:05:31 > 0:05:33His registration number. Show her.
0:05:39 > 0:05:41What sort of vehicle did you say it was?
0:05:41 > 0:05:43- A white van.- A van.
0:05:47 > 0:05:50I'm going to take a photo of your arm on my phone
0:05:50 > 0:05:53and then I'm going to take you down to the station in my car,
0:05:53 > 0:05:55it's just outside, 15 yards down the road.
0:05:55 > 0:05:58- Can you manage that? - It won't be...
0:05:58 > 0:06:00It won't be what, love?
0:06:00 > 0:06:02Taking swabs. It won't be them two?
0:06:02 > 0:06:04It's not going to be those two that just dumped her
0:06:04 > 0:06:07on the doorstep at the hospital, and said,
0:06:07 > 0:06:09"If you're still insisting in the morning
0:06:09 > 0:06:11"you've been raped, come back and report it, then"?
0:06:11 > 0:06:15No. No, it won't be them two, Leonie.
0:06:16 > 0:06:18I'll be dealing with them two.
0:06:21 > 0:06:23# There's a tower block overhead
0:06:23 > 0:06:25# All you got's your benefits
0:06:25 > 0:06:27# And you're barely scraping by
0:06:31 > 0:06:33# In this trouble town
0:06:33 > 0:06:37# Troubles are found
0:06:42 > 0:06:43# Stuck in speed-bump city
0:06:43 > 0:06:45# Where the only thing that's pretty
0:06:45 > 0:06:48# Is the thought of getting out. #
0:06:59 > 0:07:02Oh! You're back. You've been out for a pizza and now you're playing pool.
0:07:02 > 0:07:05- Hiya, Sarge.- Do you want some?- Shall I tell you what I'VE been doing?
0:07:05 > 0:07:08I've just briefed the night crew on an arrest strategy for a fella
0:07:08 > 0:07:10that's raped and assaulted a 19-year-old.
0:07:10 > 0:07:12They've just gone to pick him up just now.
0:07:12 > 0:07:14She's gone off to the OPAL Unit in Bradford,
0:07:14 > 0:07:16so we can get her properly examined, and now I'm going to wake
0:07:16 > 0:07:18Mr Shepherd up and tell him I think
0:07:18 > 0:07:20he might want to look at this bloke because he might - just might -
0:07:20 > 0:07:24- be the twisted little bastard that's been killing prostitutes.- Really?
0:07:24 > 0:07:26So what I want to know from you is... Yes, really.
0:07:26 > 0:07:27What I REALLY want to know from you is,
0:07:27 > 0:07:30when you were called out to assist her, why you did the absolute
0:07:30 > 0:07:33minimum required and why her friend's ringing me at home
0:07:33 > 0:07:36at four o'clock in the morning to come out and do your job for you.
0:07:36 > 0:07:39- We were just...- You dropped her at the hospital doors.
0:07:39 > 0:07:41You didn't even see her inside. She didn't go in
0:07:41 > 0:07:44after you'd left. She was too upset, she was too frightened.
0:07:44 > 0:07:47She stood in the cold for an hour-and-a-half, frozen rigid,
0:07:47 > 0:07:48waiting for a bus to get home.
0:07:48 > 0:07:51We were always told to take anything they said with a pinch of salt,
0:07:51 > 0:07:54and it's been a busy night. We're only just on our meal break
0:07:54 > 0:07:57- and we're knocking off in an hour. - "They"? Prostitutes?
0:07:57 > 0:07:59We're talking about a vulnerable 19-year-old.
0:07:59 > 0:08:01Her face was bruised, her neck was bruised.
0:08:01 > 0:08:03- That ain't someone crying wolf. - It was dark.
0:08:03 > 0:08:06You didn't even take a statement. I'm just ignoring that.
0:08:06 > 0:08:08No, I'm not. You've got a torch, haven't you?!
0:08:10 > 0:08:12I've had a go at the night sergeant for sending
0:08:12 > 0:08:15a couple of hobby-bobbies out on a job that needed somebody with
0:08:15 > 0:08:17the proper skill set and a bit more wool on their backs.
0:08:17 > 0:08:19And I know it's been a busy night but, for God's sakes,
0:08:19 > 0:08:22there's somebody out there targeting prostitutes.
0:08:22 > 0:08:23Did you not think?
0:08:23 > 0:08:26You know, you lot, you come in and you give us four hours a week,
0:08:26 > 0:08:28if we're lucky. If you can be bothered.
0:08:28 > 0:08:31The least you could do when you get here is engage.
0:08:31 > 0:08:33I'm sorry, Sergeant.
0:08:35 > 0:08:37Right. I'm going home for 40 minutes
0:08:37 > 0:08:39to say happy birthday to my grandson,
0:08:39 > 0:08:42get changed, then straight back here in time for the eight o'clock shift.
0:08:42 > 0:08:45I'm not reporting you to professional standards,
0:08:45 > 0:08:47although God knows why - I should be doing.
0:08:47 > 0:08:49But, please, just learn something from it.
0:08:49 > 0:08:52You'll need to make statements. Both of you.
0:09:06 > 0:09:07SHE SIGHS
0:09:28 > 0:09:30ENGINE STARTS
0:09:49 > 0:09:51Where've you been?
0:09:51 > 0:09:54Oh, I got a phone call. This lass got raped.
0:09:54 > 0:09:57- What lass?- 19-year-old, down in Sowerby Bridge.
0:09:57 > 0:09:59Well, what were the night crew doing?
0:09:59 > 0:10:02Oh, it's long, it's complicated.
0:10:03 > 0:10:05What you doing up?
0:10:05 > 0:10:09Oh, I couldn't sleep. And then I heard you set off.
0:10:11 > 0:10:13I thought you'd gone up to Heptonstall
0:10:13 > 0:10:14to be with Becky.
0:10:16 > 0:10:17No.
0:10:20 > 0:10:21No.
0:10:23 > 0:10:26I always think about you on his birthday.
0:10:27 > 0:10:29I know you do.
0:10:30 > 0:10:32We'll get through it.
0:10:33 > 0:10:35We'll get through today
0:10:35 > 0:10:37and then we'll get through the next few weeks.
0:10:37 > 0:10:39And then...
0:10:42 > 0:10:43Big smiles.
0:10:43 > 0:10:45Big smiles.
0:10:46 > 0:10:50# Happy birthday to you. #
0:10:50 > 0:10:53- Shut up! Neighbours'll complain. - So what?- Good.
0:10:53 > 0:10:55Are you going to open the others?
0:10:55 > 0:10:58Or are you just going to spend the rest of your life balancing on that?
0:10:58 > 0:11:01- Can I go to school on it?- Uphill? Does that work?- It's not ALL uphill.
0:11:01 > 0:11:04No. If you're going in the opposite direction, it's downhill.
0:11:04 > 0:11:06Stop trying to blind everybody with science.
0:11:06 > 0:11:08Going to open your cards? They might be stashed with moolah.
0:11:08 > 0:11:11- Who's this from again?- I've no idea, I told you. It was on the doorstep,
0:11:11 > 0:11:13- 6:30 this morning. - It's big. I can tell you that much.
0:11:13 > 0:11:16Let's get ripping, I've got to go to work in five minutes.
0:11:16 > 0:11:19- This is from me. - I know what that is.
0:11:19 > 0:11:22The sort you asked for. Took me best part of a week to wrap that up
0:11:22 > 0:11:24and I got through about 16 rolls of Sellotape.
0:11:24 > 0:11:26Who's this one from again, Gran?
0:11:26 > 0:11:29I've just said, I don't know, it was on the doorstep.
0:11:31 > 0:11:33Wahey! Rip it!
0:11:35 > 0:11:37- Wow.- Blimey!
0:11:37 > 0:11:39Oh, my God! Look at that. I think that might be from me.
0:11:39 > 0:11:41- Is it?- Yeah, yeah.
0:11:41 > 0:11:43I got up early specially to go and put it outside.
0:11:43 > 0:11:46- He's lying.- Actually, I think it might be FOR me.
0:11:46 > 0:11:48I think they've put the wrong
0:11:48 > 0:11:51name on by mistake. I think they've got our birthdays mixed up.
0:11:51 > 0:11:54That's...whoa. Who's it from?
0:11:54 > 0:11:57I'm going to start speaking Urdu soon,
0:11:57 > 0:11:59then people might understand me better.
0:11:59 > 0:12:01- We don't know.- Calm down, dear.
0:12:01 > 0:12:03Wasn't there a card with it?
0:12:03 > 0:12:06No. Not unless next door's cat's had it.
0:12:06 > 0:12:10You know, that's about, like, 150 quid's worth of kit, that.
0:12:10 > 0:12:11Nevison. Nevison Gallagher.
0:12:15 > 0:12:17Sean Balmforth. Date of birth - 17.11.85.
0:12:17 > 0:12:1929 years old.
0:12:19 > 0:12:23Address - 34 Burley Road, Illingworth.
0:12:23 > 0:12:26He's got a string of convictions and he's on the Sex Offender's Register.
0:12:26 > 0:12:29Unlawful sexual intercourse with a 14-year-old.
0:12:29 > 0:12:31That was ten years ago.
0:12:31 > 0:12:34His van's been seized in connection with the assault
0:12:34 > 0:12:36and rape of this girl in the early hours.
0:12:36 > 0:12:39Forensics are across it, I've spoken to the supervisor
0:12:39 > 0:12:41and they're aware we're looking at him for other things.
0:12:41 > 0:12:44On an initial visual inspection they've told me
0:12:44 > 0:12:45they've found rope in the back.
0:12:45 > 0:12:48Nylon rope. Three separate lengths.
0:12:48 > 0:12:51There's also a couple of bags of rubbish in there, containing -
0:12:51 > 0:12:53amongst other things - a number of beer bottles,
0:12:53 > 0:12:57some of which are of the same brand as those found at the site where
0:12:57 > 0:12:59Ana Vasalescu was found and where Vicky Fleming was found.
0:12:59 > 0:13:01So,
0:13:01 > 0:13:04once they've charged him over this business this morning
0:13:04 > 0:13:07we'll step in and see if he'd like to have a conversation with us.
0:13:07 > 0:13:09Arresting him?
0:13:09 > 0:13:11I'll run everything past the CPS
0:13:11 > 0:13:14and, depending on what else we dig up between now and then...
0:13:14 > 0:13:16yeah. We've got reasonable grounds.
0:13:16 > 0:13:20I've got POLSA going through his house on a Section 18, we'll get
0:13:20 > 0:13:22his phone back from the OPAL Unit
0:13:22 > 0:13:24as soon as they've got what they want from it.
0:13:24 > 0:13:27Let's start tracking his movements over the last five months,
0:13:27 > 0:13:28working backwards.
0:13:28 > 0:13:31I want to know everything there is to know about this fella.
0:13:31 > 0:13:34I want a list of all his contacts, his family, his friends,
0:13:34 > 0:13:36I want a picture of his daily routine, his lifestyle,
0:13:36 > 0:13:38any employment,
0:13:38 > 0:13:41any access to other vehicles besides this one we've seized.
0:13:41 > 0:13:46Bank details, where's he drawn money out and when? John, Steve, Jodie,
0:13:46 > 0:13:48can we talk through an interview strategy in my office
0:13:48 > 0:13:52in a minute? John, have you got a second?
0:13:54 > 0:13:58Telecoms found your name and number in Vicky Fleming's mobile phone.
0:14:02 > 0:14:06Do you know? I had a funny feeling. I wasn't certain.
0:14:06 > 0:14:08But...
0:14:08 > 0:14:10two years, eighteen months since?
0:14:10 > 0:14:12I was working on a fraud investigation up
0:14:12 > 0:14:16at the building society and she was...
0:14:16 > 0:14:18she was the point of contact.
0:14:18 > 0:14:22So, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'd have given her my number.
0:14:22 > 0:14:23Blimey.
0:14:23 > 0:14:26Mind you, who haven't I given my number to over the years?
0:14:26 > 0:14:29I don't think I spoke to her more than once or twice.
0:14:29 > 0:14:31You should have said.
0:14:31 > 0:14:34I wasn't convinced it was her.
0:14:34 > 0:14:37I couldn't have told you her name if you'd been asking me to remember.
0:14:37 > 0:14:40Maybe if she'd been working at the building society now
0:14:40 > 0:14:42it would have rung a bell but...
0:14:42 > 0:14:45So that's the only contact you've ever had with her?
0:14:45 > 0:14:48Yeah, yeah.
0:14:48 > 0:14:52OK. Can you make a statement to that effect and then it's covered?
0:14:52 > 0:14:56Sure. So do you think this is the fella?
0:14:56 > 0:14:58You know as much as me at the minute.
0:14:58 > 0:15:02John, is everything all right at home? I keep meaning to ask.
0:15:02 > 0:15:07Yeah. Well, you know. Slings and arrows.
0:15:07 > 0:15:10- Well, you know this door's always open, don't you?- Yeah.
0:15:10 > 0:15:12I mean, except when it's shut.
0:15:12 > 0:15:14Sure.
0:15:14 > 0:15:17Hey, how was your date with your little job-pissed PCSO?
0:15:17 > 0:15:20What date? What date?
0:15:25 > 0:15:26Ann!
0:15:26 > 0:15:28Oh, somebody's in bother.
0:15:31 > 0:15:33You all right, love? You're pale. You're quiet.
0:15:33 > 0:15:34- I'm fine.- Yeah?
0:15:34 > 0:15:37I'm just... I'm wondering if I'm starting with flu.
0:15:37 > 0:15:39Right. Well, don't overdo it.
0:15:39 > 0:15:43If you start to feel like crap, you need to be at home. Yeah?
0:15:43 > 0:15:44Yeah, yeah.
0:15:44 > 0:15:46- Your dad knows Sean Balmforth, doesn't he?- Who?
0:15:46 > 0:15:50This fella we picked up last night. He works for your dad.
0:15:50 > 0:15:52Does he? Don't know.
0:15:52 > 0:15:55I don't know half the people that work for me dad.
0:15:55 > 0:15:57You don't know anything about what he's like, then?
0:15:57 > 0:16:00- Ask me dad. - Oh, they'll interview him, that lot.
0:16:00 > 0:16:03I just thought you might know him, I was just being nosey.
0:16:08 > 0:16:12Ah, my two favourite women in uniform.
0:16:12 > 0:16:15No, I'm talking to you. Singing your praises upstairs this morning,
0:16:15 > 0:16:17Mr Shepherd - good old-fashioned police work,
0:16:17 > 0:16:19picking up this fella last night.
0:16:19 > 0:16:22And you, identifying Vicky Fleming last week.
0:16:22 > 0:16:25You both made me look really good in there today. Well done.
0:16:25 > 0:16:27It's the only reason I do anything is to make you look good, Sir.
0:16:27 > 0:16:29And not a hint of sarcasm(!) Oh! As well...
0:16:29 > 0:16:33I had a phone call from HMIT last night. Goran Dragovic,
0:16:33 > 0:16:35death of. They are now pursuing it as murder,
0:16:35 > 0:16:38- not suicide.- Really?- Yup.- Really?!
0:16:38 > 0:16:39Is that that fella we found hanged?
0:16:39 > 0:16:43Yeah. So, who're they pursuing, then? The Knezevics?
0:16:43 > 0:16:45Well, wouldn't that be lovely?
0:16:45 > 0:16:47To actually pin something on one of the Knezevics.
0:16:47 > 0:16:49They won't have got their own hands mucky, of course.
0:16:49 > 0:16:51But, you know...
0:16:51 > 0:16:53Anything we can do to disrupt their operations and get that bit closer.
0:16:53 > 0:16:56Every little helps. Chipping away.
0:16:56 > 0:16:59Anyway, yeah, well done, both of you.
0:17:01 > 0:17:03Who are the Knezevics?
0:17:03 > 0:17:06Oh, they're... You know how New Jersey has the Sopranos?
0:17:06 > 0:17:08Well, Halifax has the Knezevics.
0:17:08 > 0:17:11And they ain't no choirboys either.
0:17:11 > 0:17:12How's Ilinka?
0:17:12 > 0:17:15Fine. I wish she'd make her mind up to go home, though.
0:17:15 > 0:17:18I'm sick of sleeping in that conservatory.
0:17:18 > 0:17:19You're mad.
0:17:19 > 0:17:22You and your dad, or just your dad, he didn't send our Ryan
0:17:22 > 0:17:26a ridiculously expensive birthday present this morning, did he?
0:17:26 > 0:17:27Not that I know of.
0:17:32 > 0:17:34You do realise it's ten to nine?
0:17:34 > 0:17:35No, it's not.
0:17:35 > 0:17:38- Ooh!- Are you dropping him off?
0:17:38 > 0:17:41Yeah, yeah. Come on, turn it off. Ryan, off.
0:17:43 > 0:17:46Ryan, Ry... I'm switching it off.
0:17:47 > 0:17:49Why do I have to go to school on my birthday?
0:17:49 > 0:17:51You're going to be LATE on your birthday.
0:17:51 > 0:17:54Come on. You can play with it as much as you want at tea-time.
0:17:54 > 0:17:56- Have a nice day. - Where's me dinner gone?
0:17:58 > 0:18:03- Bye.- Bye.- Bye.- Bye.
0:18:36 > 0:18:37What a piece of shit.
0:18:43 > 0:18:45CASH REGISTER BEEPS
0:18:52 > 0:18:54- Here he is, look. - Y'all right, Flash?
0:18:54 > 0:18:56What were you doing grassing us up to t'police?
0:18:56 > 0:18:57We were only having a bit of fun,
0:18:57 > 0:19:00no reason to grass us up to the 5-0, is there?
0:19:00 > 0:19:02- We're your mates. - The only mates you'll ever have.
0:19:02 > 0:19:05- Oops!- Nice trip, love? - Go on, pick your stuff up.
0:19:05 > 0:19:09He don't say much, does he? You don't say much, Flash.
0:19:09 > 0:19:11Yeah, like, how about, "Sorry, lads, sorry for grassing you up to
0:19:11 > 0:19:14"the feds, sorry for being such a sad little twat,
0:19:14 > 0:19:17"such a sad little mummy's boy twat."
0:19:17 > 0:19:20- Is it true you shag your own mother, Flash?- Does he?!
0:19:20 > 0:19:24He don't want to, like, but she makes him because she's a whore.
0:19:24 > 0:19:25I heard he shags sheep.
0:19:25 > 0:19:28He does that and all but can't tell t'difference
0:19:28 > 0:19:30- up there in the dark, eh? - Can you not? Can he not?
0:19:30 > 0:19:31Can you not, Flash?
0:19:31 > 0:19:33Argh!
0:19:33 > 0:19:35- What you doing?- You fucking idiot! - Whoa!
0:19:35 > 0:19:37Relax, Flash! Put it down!
0:19:40 > 0:19:42Just put it down!
0:19:53 > 0:19:55KNOCKING
0:19:59 > 0:20:01Afternoon.
0:20:02 > 0:20:04He's in here.
0:20:13 > 0:20:16How are you doing there, Daryl?
0:20:16 > 0:20:18I don't know what's happened exactly, but...
0:20:18 > 0:20:21I think Daryl knows why we're here. Don't you, Daryl?
0:20:21 > 0:20:24- Hmm?- I know he gets provoked.
0:20:24 > 0:20:26They might have all been charged, that lot,
0:20:26 > 0:20:28but they're all out on bail - every one of them -
0:20:28 > 0:20:31and he still has to go down there and buy his tobacco and his filters.
0:20:31 > 0:20:34Let's turn this telly off, Daryl. Come on, this is serious.
0:20:34 > 0:20:36If he has done something,
0:20:36 > 0:20:38it can't be worse than what they've done to him.
0:20:38 > 0:20:40So you know what's happened this morning, Daryl?
0:20:40 > 0:20:43Yeah? We've had a report you've been involved in an altercation,
0:20:43 > 0:20:46and you've been to your car and you've pulled out a lump hammer.
0:20:46 > 0:20:48- Has he?- And you've attacked people
0:20:48 > 0:20:51and, you know, that's an arrestable offence, isn't it?
0:20:51 > 0:20:53Having an offensive weapon in a public place.
0:20:53 > 0:20:55- He'd never...- It's all on CCTV.
0:20:55 > 0:20:57So, Daryl, I'm arresting you. Do you understand?
0:20:57 > 0:20:59You do not have to say anything,
0:20:59 > 0:21:01but it may harm your defence if you do not mention
0:21:01 > 0:21:03when questioned something which you later rely on in court.
0:21:03 > 0:21:05Anything you do say may be given in evidence.
0:21:05 > 0:21:08- Could you stand up, please? - They start it. Every time.
0:21:08 > 0:21:11Yeah, I know, but what's happened has happened now,
0:21:11 > 0:21:14and you can put your side of it across when you're interviewed,
0:21:14 > 0:21:17so come on, stand up. Let's get it over with for you.
0:21:17 > 0:21:19- Where are you taking him?- Halifax.
0:21:19 > 0:21:20Shall I follow on in my car?
0:21:20 > 0:21:23I wouldn't. You'll only be sat outside for hours waiting.
0:21:23 > 0:21:25- He needs someone with him. - You won't be allowed in with him.
0:21:25 > 0:21:28- Why?- Because he's under arrest. HANDCUFFS CLICK
0:21:28 > 0:21:30Well, how long will he be?
0:21:30 > 0:21:33How long is a piece of string?
0:21:33 > 0:21:35Well, what am I supposed to do?
0:21:35 > 0:21:37I'll get someone to ring you to come and pick him up
0:21:37 > 0:21:41when we're done with him. Where's your car keys, Daryl?
0:21:41 > 0:21:42Here.
0:21:52 > 0:21:54It's on t'floor in the passenger seat.
0:22:00 > 0:22:02DOOR SLAMS
0:22:03 > 0:22:069242, I've got a 112 for possession of an offensive weapon.
0:22:06 > 0:22:09I'm on my way with him.
0:22:09 > 0:22:11OK, Sean, you do not have to say anything,
0:22:11 > 0:22:13but it may harm your defence if you do not mention now
0:22:13 > 0:22:15something which you later rely on in court.
0:22:15 > 0:22:17Anything you do say will be given in evidence.
0:22:17 > 0:22:22You are charged that on 12th September 2015 in Sowerby Bridge,
0:22:22 > 0:22:23that you intentionally
0:22:23 > 0:22:25penetrated the vagina of a woman with your penis
0:22:25 > 0:22:27when she did not consent
0:22:27 > 0:22:29and you did not reasonably believe that she was consenting,
0:22:29 > 0:22:33contrary to section one of the Sexual Offences Act 2003.
0:22:33 > 0:22:36You are also charged on 12th September 2015,
0:22:36 > 0:22:38in Sowerby Bridge,
0:22:38 > 0:22:41that you assaulted the same woman, causing her Actual Bodily Harm,
0:22:41 > 0:22:42contrary to Section 47 of
0:22:42 > 0:22:45the Offences Against The Person Act 1861.
0:22:45 > 0:22:48Have you anything you'd like to say?
0:22:48 > 0:22:51I paid her. She's a prostitute.
0:22:52 > 0:22:54Just wait there for me, please.
0:22:58 > 0:23:02Hello, Sean. I'm Detective Inspector Shackleton, HMET,
0:23:02 > 0:23:04and I'm arresting you on suspicion of the murder
0:23:04 > 0:23:09of Ana Vasalescu, Aurelija Petrovic, Lynn Dewhurst and Victoria Fleming.
0:23:09 > 0:23:11- You what? - You do not have to say anything
0:23:11 > 0:23:13but it may harm your defence if you do not mention...
0:23:13 > 0:23:15What are you talking about?
0:23:15 > 0:23:17..something which you later rely on in court.
0:23:17 > 0:23:19- No, no...- Anything you do say may be given in evidence.
0:23:19 > 0:23:21- You can't fit me up for everything! - You're going back to
0:23:21 > 0:23:24- your cell now, Sean... - Do something! Say something!
0:23:24 > 0:23:26- You're going back to your cell... - I'm not going back in my cell.
0:23:26 > 0:23:29- I'm going home! - I'm going to have a conversation
0:23:29 > 0:23:31- with your solicitor, OK? - No, it's not O-shitting-K!
0:23:31 > 0:23:35I don't know who them people are! Who are they? Who are they?
0:23:35 > 0:23:38- Who are they?! - DOOR SLAMS
0:23:38 > 0:23:41- KNOCK AT DOOR - This Daryl lad's kicking off downstairs.
0:23:41 > 0:23:43He won't have his DNA or his fingerprints done.
0:23:43 > 0:23:46They thought you might like to have a crack at persuading him
0:23:46 > 0:23:47before they force him.
0:23:52 > 0:23:54- No, I don't want to!- All right, are you ready?- No! Get away...
0:23:54 > 0:23:56Now, then, Daryl, why aren't you co-operating?
0:23:56 > 0:23:59You said you were going to deal with them and nip it in the bud.
0:23:59 > 0:24:01I shouldn't even be here.
0:24:01 > 0:24:03They were arrested and charged and they'll be up in court
0:24:03 > 0:24:06in the next few weeks, and I'll go there and speak to them again
0:24:06 > 0:24:08but, with the best will in the world,
0:24:08 > 0:24:09there's only so much we can do
0:24:09 > 0:24:11and, frankly, this silly business doesn't help -
0:24:11 > 0:24:14- it just perpetuates the bad feeling. - They're animals.- Yup.
0:24:14 > 0:24:17They shouldn't be allowed to walk, allowed to exist, to breathe...
0:24:17 > 0:24:18And now you've gone and shattered
0:24:18 > 0:24:21one of their collar bones with a lump hammer.
0:24:21 > 0:24:23Are you going to let me do this? HE SOBS
0:24:23 > 0:24:24It doesn't hurt.
0:24:29 > 0:24:32HE SCREAMS
0:24:44 > 0:24:46We're back!
0:24:46 > 0:24:48There's a card on the mantelpiece, Ryan!
0:24:48 > 0:24:50I found it in that box.
0:24:52 > 0:24:53Who's it from?
0:24:53 > 0:24:57I didn't open it - it wasn't addressed to me.
0:24:57 > 0:24:59Do you want some tea?
0:24:59 > 0:25:00Yeah.
0:25:00 > 0:25:02TOY CAR BUZZES
0:25:02 > 0:25:05Gran, you race that one and I'll race this one.
0:25:05 > 0:25:07Are you going to open this card and see who it's from?
0:25:07 > 0:25:09Cos, whoever it is, I think you need to send them
0:25:09 > 0:25:11a note to say a very big thank-you, don't you?
0:25:11 > 0:25:13Yeah, you open it.
0:25:13 > 0:25:15It's not addressed to me.
0:25:15 > 0:25:16I'm giving you permission.
0:25:16 > 0:25:18Come on, hurry up, I'm going to beat you.
0:25:18 > 0:25:21There's a year's supply of birthday cake in the kitchen,
0:25:21 > 0:25:23if anybody's interested.
0:25:25 > 0:25:29TOY CARS BUZZ LOUDER AND LOUDER
0:25:29 > 0:25:31TOY CARS SCREECH
0:25:31 > 0:25:33- Right, get that dismantled, now. - What are you doing?
0:25:33 > 0:25:35- What are you doing? - What's up, Catherine?
0:25:35 > 0:25:38Get it back in the box. In the bin. Straight in the bin!
0:25:38 > 0:25:41We can't keep it, I'm sorry.
0:25:41 > 0:25:43- Bastard.- Why not? What are you on about?- The bastard.- Oh, my God.
0:25:43 > 0:25:46- What's up?- Your granny's right, we can't keep it.
0:25:46 > 0:25:48What do you mean "we"? It's not yours, it's mine!
0:25:48 > 0:25:50Well, it's either him or some nasty bastard
0:25:50 > 0:25:53- playing stupid, dumb, little games. - What is? What is?
0:25:53 > 0:25:57- It's from your dad.- Yeah, just get a bin bag.- NO!- Sorry.
0:25:58 > 0:26:01You can't throw away my things! It's mine!
0:26:01 > 0:26:04He's not allowed to have any contact with you. This is illegal.
0:26:04 > 0:26:05It's bad, it's wrong, it's evil...
0:26:05 > 0:26:07- He's trying to mess about with us! - It's a Scalextric!
0:26:07 > 0:26:10- Yeah, exactly!- She's mental.
0:26:10 > 0:26:12Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I am mental.
0:26:12 > 0:26:14I am mental when it comes to that bastard.
0:26:14 > 0:26:17Look, look, he can't have put it there himself, can he?
0:26:17 > 0:26:20- No. No. No... - We'd know about it if he'd escaped.
0:26:20 > 0:26:22Yeah, but someone, some, some...
0:26:22 > 0:26:26- some twisted little git has done it for him.- You're not binning it!
0:26:26 > 0:26:29- I'll buy you a new one. - I want this one!- No, no, no way.
0:26:29 > 0:26:31I'll buy you another one, I'll buy you one exactly like it.
0:26:31 > 0:26:33Why? You can't stop him sending me things.
0:26:33 > 0:26:36No! Ryan! I can! You see, this is the man that terrified you,
0:26:36 > 0:26:38that traumatised you, that poured petrol over you,
0:26:38 > 0:26:41that put me in hospital for four weeks,
0:26:41 > 0:26:43that murdered Kirsten... SHE SOBS
0:26:43 > 0:26:45See? This is what he wants!
0:26:45 > 0:26:48He wants you and me shouting. He wants you to hate me!
0:26:57 > 0:27:00So, as you'll understand from the disclosures we've made to
0:27:00 > 0:27:01your solicitor, Sean,
0:27:01 > 0:27:05we are investigating the deaths of four women -
0:27:05 > 0:27:10Ana Vasalescu, Aurelija Petrovic, Lynn Dewhurst and Victoria Fleming.
0:27:10 > 0:27:13Sean's prepared a statement, if I could read it out.
0:27:13 > 0:27:16Oh, please do.
0:27:16 > 0:27:18"I have been asked to account for my whereabouts at four different
0:27:18 > 0:27:21"periods of time across several days.
0:27:21 > 0:27:24"I cannot, at this moment in time, verify my exact whereabouts
0:27:24 > 0:27:27"on any of the dates and times in question, particularly
0:27:27 > 0:27:31"the first three, as they are all some considerable time ago,
0:27:31 > 0:27:34"but I would like to state clearly that I do not know Ana Vasalescu,
0:27:34 > 0:27:38"Aurelia Petrovic, Lynn Dewhurst or Victoria Fleming,
0:27:38 > 0:27:40"and, to my knowledge,
0:27:40 > 0:27:42"have never met or come into contact with them in the past."
0:27:45 > 0:27:47OK. That's very helpful, Sean,
0:27:47 > 0:27:51but we do still need to ask you some questions, OK?
0:27:51 > 0:27:53No comment.
0:28:02 > 0:28:04I shouldn't have said anything.
0:28:04 > 0:28:07I should have just got rid of the card.
0:28:07 > 0:28:08He'd never have said anything.
0:28:08 > 0:28:11He wasn't the least bit interested in who it was from.
0:28:11 > 0:28:13I should have just said Nevison and squared it
0:28:13 > 0:28:17with Nevison - he'd not have minded. He'd have been pleased to help.
0:28:19 > 0:28:21You did the right thing.
0:28:21 > 0:28:23I think Ryan's realised that himself.
0:28:26 > 0:28:29Insidious bastard. Who's he got doing that for him?
0:28:29 > 0:28:31We don't know, do we?
0:28:31 > 0:28:34We don't know that it's not just some random nasty sod.
0:28:36 > 0:28:38Well, it's someone who knows us, or else why would they know
0:28:38 > 0:28:40when his birthday is?
0:28:44 > 0:28:46We're going round in circles.
0:28:49 > 0:28:51Could you not just take it to a charity shop
0:28:51 > 0:28:52rather than put it in the bin?
0:28:52 > 0:28:56No, I'm taking it to work - the card, the wrapping, the box.
0:28:56 > 0:28:58See if I can't persuade Mike to send it all off for
0:28:58 > 0:29:01ninhydrin testing - see if we can't get some fingerprints.
0:29:01 > 0:29:04It's a sick trick, whoever's done it.
0:29:05 > 0:29:08Never goes away, does it?
0:29:08 > 0:29:10He'll never go away.
0:29:12 > 0:29:13Everything all right?
0:29:13 > 0:29:17He's fine. He wants you to go up and kiss him.
0:29:24 > 0:29:25- TV:- 'Currently being questioned
0:29:25 > 0:29:28- 'but no charges have been brought as yet...'- Sorry.
0:29:28 > 0:29:31- 'This is a huge breakthrough...' - Is she all right?
0:29:31 > 0:29:34Yeah. It's just...
0:29:34 > 0:29:40you know, such an odd situation we're in with him.
0:29:41 > 0:29:45'..Investigation, that they will bring the offender to justice.'
0:29:45 > 0:29:48They've got someone for those murders, by the look of it.
0:29:48 > 0:29:51Yep. Guess who got him arrested.
0:29:51 > 0:29:53She didn't?
0:29:53 > 0:29:55Have they charged him?
0:29:55 > 0:29:59No, not yet. I think they're still questioning him.
0:29:59 > 0:30:02'A breakthrough for the detectives working on the spate of murders
0:30:02 > 0:30:04'which has shocked the local community...'
0:30:04 > 0:30:06You are stopping tonight, aren't you?
0:30:27 > 0:30:29I knew Vicky Fleming.
0:30:31 > 0:30:32That woman.
0:30:34 > 0:30:36- Did you?- Yeah.
0:30:37 > 0:30:39Yeah, um...
0:30:41 > 0:30:43..it was her I was having the fling with.
0:30:43 > 0:30:45When everything went wrong for me.
0:30:46 > 0:30:49I used to work with her up at the building society.
0:30:52 > 0:30:54What was she like?
0:30:54 > 0:30:56- Horrible.- Really?
0:30:57 > 0:30:58Really?
0:31:02 > 0:31:04Are you all right?
0:31:06 > 0:31:09You won't tell Catherine, will you?
0:31:09 > 0:31:11HE BREATHES HEAVILY
0:31:11 > 0:31:12No.
0:31:17 > 0:31:18Um...
0:31:20 > 0:31:22SNIFFLING: Uh...
0:31:34 > 0:31:35HE GROANS
0:31:38 > 0:31:42Urgh, I feel nauseated just thinking about it.
0:31:43 > 0:31:45I thought I was in love with her.
0:31:45 > 0:31:47Well, I was... I was in love with her.
0:31:47 > 0:31:49It was just very short-lived.
0:31:53 > 0:31:54She... She was like this...
0:31:56 > 0:31:57She was very attractive.
0:31:59 > 0:32:01But eventually I realised
0:32:01 > 0:32:03that s-she was missing something from up here.
0:32:05 > 0:32:09She kept going on, wanting me to leave Sue and the kids and...
0:32:10 > 0:32:12..I couldn't.
0:32:13 > 0:32:14Which really...
0:32:18 > 0:32:21I shouldn't have started it in the first place, I know that.
0:32:23 > 0:32:26But I wasn't ready to leave my family for her.
0:32:26 > 0:32:32And she kept...she kept pushing and pushing and eventually I said no,
0:32:32 > 0:32:34I said no.
0:32:34 > 0:32:36If it came to the crunch I'd be stopping with Sue and the kids
0:32:36 > 0:32:39and so she... HE EXHALES
0:32:40 > 0:32:42She blackmailed me.
0:32:43 > 0:32:44Blackmailed?
0:32:46 > 0:32:47Yeah, for a few weeks.
0:32:49 > 0:32:52And then I said I wouldn't pay her any more, I couldn't.
0:32:54 > 0:32:57She wanted 100 quid a week, every week, or she'd tell Sue.
0:32:58 > 0:33:01I managed a few weeks, but then I...
0:33:01 > 0:33:04I thought, "I don't want to live like this any more."
0:33:05 > 0:33:08So she...
0:33:10 > 0:33:12What, she what?
0:33:17 > 0:33:19Humiliated me.
0:33:27 > 0:33:29So at the minute, he's provided no alibis.
0:33:29 > 0:33:30Well, no useful alibis.
0:33:30 > 0:33:32We're building up a picture of a loner
0:33:32 > 0:33:34with a fairly chaotic sort of lifestyle.
0:33:34 > 0:33:36He was working recently as a driver,
0:33:36 > 0:33:39but he got sacked for drinking and aggressive behaviour.
0:33:39 > 0:33:41The good news this morning from Forensics -
0:33:41 > 0:33:43we've got strands of hair matching that of Ana Vasalescu
0:33:43 > 0:33:46found in his van. Now, he's denied knowing Ana,
0:33:46 > 0:33:48so let's see what he's got to say about that.
0:33:48 > 0:33:51Telecoms - Lynn Dewhurst's mobile number was found
0:33:51 > 0:33:53in his contacts on his phone. Again, he's denied knowing her,
0:33:53 > 0:33:56so let's see if he can enlighten us there.
0:33:56 > 0:33:58Then ANPR puts him, well, puts his van,
0:33:58 > 0:34:01within a mile of where the bodies were found
0:34:01 > 0:34:03on the second and fourth murders, Aurelia and Vicky.
0:34:03 > 0:34:06We've also got a witness from a house-to-house
0:34:06 > 0:34:07reporting seeing a white van in the area
0:34:07 > 0:34:09around the time Ana was murdered.
0:34:09 > 0:34:11There was an appeal in the media for the driver to come forward,
0:34:11 > 0:34:14no-one did. A white van was also reported in the vicinity
0:34:14 > 0:34:16prior to Vicky Fleming's flat being torched.
0:34:16 > 0:34:19So! Let's get back up to Halifax
0:34:19 > 0:34:22and see if he's got anything he'd like to share with us today, hm?
0:34:25 > 0:34:26Am I overreacting?
0:34:28 > 0:34:31He tried to kill you, Catherine. You're not overreacting.
0:34:31 > 0:34:34We'll send it all off for fingerprints
0:34:34 > 0:34:36and I'll ring the prison liaison officer
0:34:36 > 0:34:37to talk to someone at Gravesend.
0:34:37 > 0:34:39Let's find out who visits him,
0:34:39 > 0:34:42who he writes to, who he has phone calls with.
0:34:42 > 0:34:44If he's behind it, he'll be dealt with.
0:34:44 > 0:34:46If it's a crank...
0:34:47 > 0:34:50..it's a shame they've got nothing better to do.
0:34:50 > 0:34:51Try not to let it get you down.
0:34:52 > 0:34:55- It's just this week, it's always...- I know.
0:34:55 > 0:34:58- It's bad enough...- I know. - ..without...- I know.
0:34:59 > 0:35:01I do know.
0:35:06 > 0:35:08Did you have a nice birthday yesterday?
0:35:08 > 0:35:09Yeah, it was OK.
0:35:11 > 0:35:13What did you get?
0:35:13 > 0:35:15Skateboard, elbow pads,
0:35:15 > 0:35:17knee pads.
0:35:19 > 0:35:21Helmet.
0:35:21 > 0:35:23New football.
0:35:23 > 0:35:26- 20 quid off me Uncle Daniel.- Yep.
0:35:26 > 0:35:2930 quid off me grandad and me Auntie Ros.
0:35:29 > 0:35:31That's 50 quid.
0:35:31 > 0:35:35Winnie across made me a cake, as well as me Auntie Clare.
0:35:35 > 0:35:38- That's two cakes. - SHE GIGGLES
0:35:41 > 0:35:45I got a Scalextric, but me granny put it in t'bin.
0:35:47 > 0:35:48Why?
0:35:49 > 0:35:51Because it were from me dad.
0:35:51 > 0:35:53Oh, no.
0:35:54 > 0:35:57And how do you feel about that?
0:35:57 > 0:35:59I dunno.
0:35:59 > 0:36:01I really wanted to play with it,
0:36:01 > 0:36:04but I could see how upset she was.
0:36:04 > 0:36:06Gosh, that must've cost a lot of money.
0:36:07 > 0:36:10Yeah, me Uncle Daniel said it would have done.
0:36:11 > 0:36:12Perhaps, I don't know,
0:36:12 > 0:36:16it's his way of trying to tell you all how sorry he is
0:36:16 > 0:36:17about what happened.
0:36:19 > 0:36:21- Do you think he is? - Well, why else would he send it?
0:36:21 > 0:36:24I don't think they get very much money in prison.
0:36:24 > 0:36:27It must have meant a lot to him to do that.
0:36:28 > 0:36:31You know, after that last conversation we had,
0:36:31 > 0:36:33I googled your dad.
0:36:33 > 0:36:35And I can't believe he was responsible
0:36:35 > 0:36:37for half the things he was sent to prison for.
0:36:37 > 0:36:39Why?
0:36:40 > 0:36:43Because he had such a kind face.
0:36:46 > 0:36:48TRAIN HORN BLARES
0:36:50 > 0:36:51Here you are.
0:36:51 > 0:36:52Ta.
0:36:52 > 0:36:55I'm just suggesting that it's odd... John?
0:36:55 > 0:36:57No, thanks.
0:36:57 > 0:36:59..for someone with such a disorganised lifestyle
0:36:59 > 0:37:01who lives in chaos and squalor,
0:37:01 > 0:37:04spends half his life pissed out of his tiny fucking skull,
0:37:04 > 0:37:06not to leave any DNA on any of the sites.
0:37:06 > 0:37:09Are we really believing that this lad is that forensically aware?
0:37:09 > 0:37:11And that capable?
0:37:11 > 0:37:14You don't know these days. A lonely, little, twisted mind like that
0:37:14 > 0:37:17has probably absorbed every episode of CSI they've ever shot.
0:37:17 > 0:37:21Well, that aside, boss, what I still can't square is Vicky Fleming.
0:37:21 > 0:37:23Vicky was not a prostitute.
0:37:23 > 0:37:25There are significant differences,
0:37:25 > 0:37:27and we've made this leap, we've made an assumption...
0:37:27 > 0:37:29I'm ruling nothing out.
0:37:29 > 0:37:32He must have been in that flat. He must have burnt that flat out.
0:37:32 > 0:37:35I don't care what the fire service says, it's just...
0:37:35 > 0:37:37It's too much of a coincidence, what,
0:37:37 > 0:37:40to be an oil lamp she's left on? Come on, he was burning evidence
0:37:40 > 0:37:42and that is so different from...
0:37:42 > 0:37:45Well, that is someone who knows her.
0:37:45 > 0:37:48It's personal, right? And the others, they weren't personal.
0:37:55 > 0:38:01I need you to explain why, and it's two things we've uncovered -
0:38:01 > 0:38:05yesterday you told us that you'd never met Ana Vasalescu.
0:38:05 > 0:38:07Do you remember?
0:38:07 > 0:38:09You also told us that no-one else had driven your van
0:38:09 > 0:38:12in the last six months. Yeah?
0:38:14 > 0:38:15So, Sean...
0:38:18 > 0:38:19..can you tell me what your response is
0:38:19 > 0:38:22if I tell you that our forensic people have found strands
0:38:22 > 0:38:25of Ana Vasalescu's hair, her DNA,
0:38:25 > 0:38:27in your van?
0:38:33 > 0:38:35No comment.
0:38:38 > 0:38:39Hmm.
0:38:43 > 0:38:46And yesterday, you told us that you don't know Lynn Dewhurst.
0:38:46 > 0:38:47Do you remember?
0:38:50 > 0:38:52Could you explain to me why, then, Sean,
0:38:52 > 0:38:54you've got Lynn Dewhurst's mobile phone number
0:38:54 > 0:38:56in your contacts on your mobile phone?
0:38:58 > 0:38:59No...no comment.
0:39:09 > 0:39:11DOOR OPENS
0:39:19 > 0:39:22When I said "lunch", I had somewhere a bit more salubrious in mind.
0:39:22 > 0:39:24I've only got 15 minutes.
0:39:24 > 0:39:26How are you?
0:39:26 > 0:39:29- How are YOU?- I'm all right. I'll cut to the chase, eh?
0:39:29 > 0:39:32Can I have some tea, love? And a fish finger butty.
0:39:32 > 0:39:33Are you eating?
0:39:33 > 0:39:36Yeah, I'll have the same. Thanks.
0:39:36 > 0:39:38It's a bit like speed dating, innit?
0:39:38 > 0:39:41Not that I've ever been speed dating.
0:39:41 > 0:39:43Or that WE'RE dating, obviously.
0:39:43 > 0:39:45- But I've seen it on t'telly. - Tell me about Sean Balmforth.
0:39:45 > 0:39:47Oh...
0:39:47 > 0:39:48Really?
0:39:48 > 0:39:51All day yesterday? Your lot?
0:39:51 > 0:39:53Well, best part of two hours, giving it...
0:39:53 > 0:39:55What do you know?
0:39:55 > 0:39:56Nothing. I told 'em.
0:39:56 > 0:39:58Except...
0:39:58 > 0:40:00I wouldn't put it past him.
0:40:00 > 0:40:03Which is a pretty damning thing to say about somebody, innit?
0:40:03 > 0:40:04- Really?- Well, God knows.
0:40:06 > 0:40:08Helen never gave up on anybody.
0:40:08 > 0:40:10Ever.
0:40:10 > 0:40:12We condemn the sin, not the sinner.
0:40:12 > 0:40:14But Sean...
0:40:15 > 0:40:16..he's a sad lad.
0:40:17 > 0:40:21Course, it's nothing to do with me, I'm just being nosey.
0:40:21 > 0:40:23How's our Annie getting on?
0:40:23 > 0:40:24Really well.
0:40:24 > 0:40:27- She's a smart kid.- Good.
0:40:27 > 0:40:30- How's things at home?- Oh, good.
0:40:30 > 0:40:31- Good.- Yeah.
0:40:34 > 0:40:36- Yeah.- She's drinking, isn't she?
0:40:39 > 0:40:41Last thing I want to do is get her into trouble.
0:40:41 > 0:40:43You won't, not with me.
0:40:43 > 0:40:44That's why I rang you.
0:40:45 > 0:40:48I don't know why she's started again.
0:40:48 > 0:40:51One minute she was all, "I'm going to be a regular,
0:40:51 > 0:40:54"I'm going to be detective, I'm going to sail through the ranks."
0:40:54 > 0:40:56I thought she'd taken to it like a duck to water.
0:40:56 > 0:40:59And she was thrilled to bits when she made that connection
0:40:59 > 0:41:00with the Vicky Fleming woman.
0:41:00 > 0:41:02And then...
0:41:05 > 0:41:08She used to drink a lot, at college.
0:41:08 > 0:41:10Daft amount, you know, like they do, students.
0:41:11 > 0:41:13She got alcohol poisoning once.
0:41:13 > 0:41:15Silly bugger.
0:41:15 > 0:41:18But then, when Helen became ill,
0:41:18 > 0:41:20she seemed to stop, overnight.
0:41:20 > 0:41:23She became very sensible.
0:41:23 > 0:41:26All through the illness, even after what happened,
0:41:26 > 0:41:29last year, wi' them weirdos.
0:41:30 > 0:41:32So I don't know if something's happened at work.
0:41:34 > 0:41:37- Not that I know of.- Well...
0:41:37 > 0:41:40- has somebody upset her? - Have you asked her?
0:41:40 > 0:41:42Oh, she doesn't talk to me about stuff.
0:41:42 > 0:41:45She might have had a conversation with Helen about it, not me.
0:41:47 > 0:41:49Does she drink with other people, or is it...?
0:41:49 > 0:41:52No, no, it's all been on her own at home.
0:41:55 > 0:41:56OK.
0:41:58 > 0:42:01Happens she needs a good night out.
0:42:01 > 0:42:05Yeah? Well, we could all do with one o' them, couldn't we?
0:42:05 > 0:42:06I'll talk to her.
0:42:08 > 0:42:09Are you all right?
0:42:13 > 0:42:15It was Ryan's birthday yesterday.
0:42:16 > 0:42:19Becky died six weeks after he was born, so, you know...
0:42:21 > 0:42:24..it's just something we have to get through in our house.
0:42:28 > 0:42:31I were thinking....
0:42:31 > 0:42:33you know what you told me last night?
0:42:34 > 0:42:35Yeah?
0:42:36 > 0:42:38I've said I won't say anything to our Catherine,
0:42:38 > 0:42:40and I shan't, I've promised,
0:42:40 > 0:42:43but don't you think you SHOULD tell the police?
0:42:43 > 0:42:46I'm just thinking that whoever...
0:42:46 > 0:42:49killed her,
0:42:49 > 0:42:51she might have been blackmailing HIM.
0:42:52 > 0:42:53But...
0:42:53 > 0:42:55isn't this bloke a serial killer?
0:42:55 > 0:42:56On the news they're saying
0:42:56 > 0:42:59she didn't fit the same profile as the others.
0:42:59 > 0:43:01It might be a different killer to the others,
0:43:01 > 0:43:04and they need to know that.
0:43:04 > 0:43:06Well, the police obviously don't think that.
0:43:06 > 0:43:09They've...they've linked them.
0:43:10 > 0:43:13And they've got this fella in custody now anyway, so...
0:43:13 > 0:43:15Yeah, but what if... What if...
0:43:16 > 0:43:18Oh...
0:43:18 > 0:43:19I don't know.
0:43:21 > 0:43:22Look...
0:43:22 > 0:43:24if I went down there and offered them information,
0:43:24 > 0:43:27first of all, they'd think I was a crank.
0:43:27 > 0:43:28And they'd be laughing at me.
0:43:29 > 0:43:32Then I'd have to go through it all.
0:43:32 > 0:43:34Again and again and again...
0:43:38 > 0:43:41You don't know what that does to me, Clare.
0:43:47 > 0:43:48Hiya, love.
0:43:51 > 0:43:54Sarge, have you got a minute?
0:43:54 > 0:43:56Hello, Steph.
0:43:56 > 0:43:57I think that...
0:43:57 > 0:43:59I think I've decided that I should resign.
0:43:59 > 0:44:01I've spoken to the specials liaison officer.
0:44:01 > 0:44:04I don't think you should resign. STEPH SIGHS
0:44:04 > 0:44:07- Well, it looks like they're going to charge this bloke.- Does it?
0:44:07 > 0:44:09They've had him in custody for two days.
0:44:09 > 0:44:11I've just heard they're applying to the magistrate
0:44:11 > 0:44:13for a three-day lie down.
0:44:13 > 0:44:15And I let him slip through my fingers, so yeah.
0:44:15 > 0:44:17Steph, how long have you been in the job?
0:44:19 > 0:44:21Specials? About six month.
0:44:23 > 0:44:25You made a mistake.
0:44:25 > 0:44:28I suspect you listened to Bryony, who IS a lazy sod,
0:44:28 > 0:44:31and whose first and last instinct is to do the minimum.
0:44:32 > 0:44:35She's the one who should be offering to resign, not you.
0:44:35 > 0:44:37She's been in the job five years
0:44:37 > 0:44:40and she knows no more now than she did then.
0:44:40 > 0:44:44I suspect you wanted to do more, but you let yourself be led by her.
0:44:44 > 0:44:45Yeah?
0:44:47 > 0:44:49Go with your own instincts in future,
0:44:49 > 0:44:51stick your neck out now and again.
0:44:51 > 0:44:52Yeah, Leonie's a prostitute,
0:44:52 > 0:44:54but she's also a vulnerable 19-year-old
0:44:54 > 0:44:57who is where she is because she's had a shit life.
0:44:59 > 0:45:00Don't resign.
0:45:01 > 0:45:04I'll be really pissed off if you resign.
0:45:19 > 0:45:22Last week, in assembly...
0:45:22 > 0:45:25Mrs Beresford was on about forgiveness.
0:45:28 > 0:45:30Was she?
0:45:31 > 0:45:35She said that we had to find it in our hearts to forgive people things.
0:45:36 > 0:45:37Good.
0:45:37 > 0:45:40Especially if they say they're sorry.
0:45:41 > 0:45:43That's right.
0:45:43 > 0:45:45However angry or upset we might feel.
0:45:47 > 0:45:50Well, yeah. There you go, eh?
0:45:50 > 0:45:55So I was thinking, maybe it was his way of trying to say sorry
0:45:55 > 0:45:59for what he did, sending me that Scalextric, me dad.
0:46:02 > 0:46:05Ryan, you've got to stop calling him your dad.
0:46:05 > 0:46:08You've got to stop thinking about this man as your dad.
0:46:08 > 0:46:10A dad is someone who's there.
0:46:11 > 0:46:13Every day.
0:46:14 > 0:46:18Someone who cares about you, who loves you, who helps you, who...
0:46:18 > 0:46:20w-who shows you how to...
0:46:20 > 0:46:23tie your laces or pump up your tyres,
0:46:23 > 0:46:26someone who can take you places, someone who knows who you are.
0:46:26 > 0:46:29It's not someone who lies to you about living on a narrow boat
0:46:29 > 0:46:31and pours petrol over you
0:46:31 > 0:46:34and kicks the living daylights out of your grandmother.
0:46:34 > 0:46:38But perhaps he would have liked to have done them things with me
0:46:38 > 0:46:40- if he hadn't been in prison. - Yeah, but Ryan,
0:46:40 > 0:46:43perhaps if he was the kind of man who cared about other people enough,
0:46:43 > 0:46:46he'd never have been in prison in the first place.
0:47:10 > 0:47:12MOBILE PHONE BEEPS
0:47:30 > 0:47:32Amanda!
0:47:32 > 0:47:33Ama...!
0:47:40 > 0:47:41What?!
0:47:44 > 0:47:46- Ben, open the door. - Kids, in the other room, come on.
0:47:46 > 0:47:48- Quick, quick, quick. - He lives here too!
0:47:48 > 0:47:49Go in there. Ben...
0:47:49 > 0:47:52- Go on, in there. - Where will he go?
0:47:52 > 0:47:55He'll be fine, he'll go to his mother's, go in there. Both of you!
0:47:55 > 0:47:58- I don't want him not to be here, even if he is a pig.- Amanda!
0:47:58 > 0:48:00Go in there, both of you.
0:48:06 > 0:48:08Oh, bollocks!
0:48:09 > 0:48:11You're upsetting these children!
0:48:11 > 0:48:14I'M upsetting 'em?! You're the one that's upsetting them!
0:48:14 > 0:48:16You need to leave us alone.
0:48:16 > 0:48:18- You need to go away.- Fuck you!
0:48:18 > 0:48:20- Fuck YOU!- Fuck you!
0:48:24 > 0:48:26Come on, let's get you inside.
0:48:26 > 0:48:28CHILD CRIES
0:48:44 > 0:48:47FOOTSTEPS APPROACH
0:48:52 > 0:48:53Hiya.
0:48:53 > 0:48:54Hiya.
0:48:54 > 0:48:56Are you all right?
0:49:01 > 0:49:04I'm sorry that I get wound up about stuff, but...
0:49:05 > 0:49:08..it's only cos I love you and I care about you,
0:49:08 > 0:49:09you know that, don't you?
0:49:09 > 0:49:10Yup.
0:49:16 > 0:49:17Right, come on.
0:49:36 > 0:49:37Love you.
0:49:40 > 0:49:42I love you.
0:49:43 > 0:49:45Night-night.
0:49:45 > 0:49:47Night-night.
0:49:47 > 0:49:49SHEEP BLEAT
0:50:00 > 0:50:02What's happened to t'front of your car?
0:50:02 > 0:50:04I just...
0:50:04 > 0:50:05scraped a wall.
0:50:09 > 0:50:12I hope you weren't drinking and driving. Were you?
0:50:13 > 0:50:15You will get caught, you know, Daryl.
0:50:20 > 0:50:22And who's going to pay for that getting fixed?
0:50:22 > 0:50:25It's reight, it still goes.
0:50:25 > 0:50:28It won't pass its MOT, love, not like that.
0:50:28 > 0:50:30And what if you'd hit someone?
0:50:38 > 0:50:39BUZZER
0:50:41 > 0:50:44- What've you got for me? - I think you'll be pleased.
0:50:44 > 0:50:47I didn't, and I told you I wouldn't, do anything illegal.
0:50:49 > 0:50:52You're not going to tell me you didn't do owt.
0:50:52 > 0:50:53I did do something.
0:50:55 > 0:50:57Did you know it was his birthday?
0:50:57 > 0:50:59The day before yesterday?
0:50:59 > 0:51:02I only found out two days before.
0:51:02 > 0:51:04He was... He was ten.
0:51:05 > 0:51:07Ten years old.
0:51:09 > 0:51:10OK.
0:51:10 > 0:51:12So I sent him a present.
0:51:14 > 0:51:18I left it on the doorstep with a card inside.
0:51:18 > 0:51:19From you.
0:51:20 > 0:51:22It was expensive, something I knew he'd like.
0:51:22 > 0:51:24Racing cars. And he did.
0:51:24 > 0:51:27Of course, she wanted to put it in the bin
0:51:27 > 0:51:29when she knew it was from you, and she did put it in the bin,
0:51:29 > 0:51:31and, of course, that made him angry and upset.
0:51:31 > 0:51:33- How do you know?- He told me.
0:51:36 > 0:51:38And it's made him start to ask even more questions.
0:51:40 > 0:51:43I suggested to him that you sent it
0:51:43 > 0:51:45because you're sorry for what you did.
0:51:45 > 0:51:47I think that's a very powerful message.
0:51:47 > 0:51:53If we can subtly undermine all the messages she reinforces every day,
0:51:53 > 0:51:57it may be a slow process, but if we persist, and we will,
0:51:57 > 0:52:00- surely that's better than... - I don't understand.
0:52:02 > 0:52:04OK.
0:52:06 > 0:52:09Am I...? Am I being thick,
0:52:09 > 0:52:12or are you just not getting the fact that there's been a development?
0:52:14 > 0:52:17This bitch, this nasty ugly whore.
0:52:20 > 0:52:22Sorry, but she...
0:52:23 > 0:52:25She's killed my mother.
0:52:27 > 0:52:30And you think buying him expensive toys is some sort of solution?
0:52:32 > 0:52:34I-I don't know that I can do anything
0:52:34 > 0:52:36- about what she did to your mother. - But...
0:52:36 > 0:52:38- What I can do with Ryan... - That is what I asked you to do.
0:52:42 > 0:52:44It may not have been her.
0:52:44 > 0:52:47- They've arrested someone. - I know they've arrested someone.
0:52:47 > 0:52:49I saw it on t'news, Frances, so what?
0:52:51 > 0:52:52Frances...
0:52:55 > 0:52:58..you're sweet, but you're naive.
0:52:58 > 0:53:02She has killed my mother to piss on me,
0:53:02 > 0:53:03just cos she can.
0:53:05 > 0:53:07Like me living in this shit-hole isn't enough for her.
0:53:07 > 0:53:10And she has disguised it by killing them others first,
0:53:10 > 0:53:12and now her little police buddies are helping her cover it up
0:53:12 > 0:53:15by arresting some no-mates who they can pin anything on.
0:53:15 > 0:53:17Do you really believe they could do that?
0:53:17 > 0:53:19Oh, I don't know what else to say to you.
0:53:21 > 0:53:24You've led a sheltered life, it's not your fault.
0:53:26 > 0:53:28It's why you're so good and kind.
0:53:28 > 0:53:31It's why you always see the best in people.
0:53:32 > 0:53:34Frances...
0:53:39 > 0:53:42But some people, and she is one of 'em,
0:53:42 > 0:53:45they're craftier than you'd ever give 'em credit for,
0:53:45 > 0:53:47and they get themselves into positions of authority
0:53:47 > 0:53:49so they can get away with stuff.
0:53:53 > 0:53:55I don't know what else to say. I...
0:53:57 > 0:53:58I thought you got it.
0:54:04 > 0:54:06The priority for me is working towards Ryan
0:54:06 > 0:54:09not accepting the demonised version of you that she reinforces...
0:54:09 > 0:54:10The best way to achieve that...
0:54:10 > 0:54:12I told him I didn't believe you did half of what...
0:54:12 > 0:54:15As far as I'm concerned, the best way to achieve that...
0:54:15 > 0:54:18- ..he listened, he thought about it, and it sank in.- ..is to remove her.
0:54:18 > 0:54:20From the picture.
0:54:21 > 0:54:22Reinforce that.
0:54:22 > 0:54:26- But what you're suggesting is illegal...- Fuck illegal!
0:54:26 > 0:54:29When has doing anything legally got anybody like me anywhere?
0:54:32 > 0:54:36Frances, you're going to have to do what I've asked you to do.
0:54:40 > 0:54:41Or what I'm thinking is...
0:54:44 > 0:54:46..this...
0:54:49 > 0:54:50..you and me...
0:54:53 > 0:54:56..it's not going to work, I'm sorry.
0:54:56 > 0:54:59I thought you understood me. I really did.
0:54:59 > 0:55:02I do! I do understand you, don't say that, please.
0:55:02 > 0:55:05Please, I understand you better than anyone.
0:55:05 > 0:55:08- Do you understand what I'm saying, then?- I...- Nothing is illegal.
0:55:12 > 0:55:15It's just a word people use to control other people with.
0:55:17 > 0:55:21She has stolen my son and murdered my mother.
0:55:21 > 0:55:24That is illegal and nobody has raised an eyebrow.
0:55:25 > 0:55:27And believe me,
0:55:27 > 0:55:30it is not that lad they've arrested that's killed these women.
0:55:30 > 0:55:32Look at him, picture of him, on t'telly.
0:55:33 > 0:55:35He hasn't got it in him.
0:55:37 > 0:55:39VOICE SHAKING: Frances...
0:55:41 > 0:55:43..if you're not on my side, who is?
0:55:49 > 0:55:51What would you like me to do?
0:55:53 > 0:55:56I'd like you to use your imagination.
0:55:56 > 0:55:59- I have been doing.- Yeah, you have.
0:55:59 > 0:56:00Brilliantly.
0:56:00 > 0:56:03I was so impressed, the way you got into that school.
0:56:06 > 0:56:07But I need more.
0:56:09 > 0:56:10I need you to take it further.
0:56:12 > 0:56:15I wasn't anticipating it any more than you were.
0:56:15 > 0:56:19I didn't know she'd go out of her way to target my mother,
0:56:19 > 0:56:20but she did.
0:56:21 > 0:56:24And now they're going to go out of their way to let her walk,
0:56:24 > 0:56:26and I can't do anything.
0:56:27 > 0:56:29But you can.
0:56:31 > 0:56:35If our two hearts do beat as one,
0:56:35 > 0:56:37and I like to think that they do...
0:56:38 > 0:56:40..then you know what I want.
0:56:44 > 0:56:47You know what I want, Frances.
0:56:49 > 0:56:52# In this trouble town
0:56:52 > 0:56:55# Trouble I've found
0:56:57 > 0:57:00# In this trouble town
0:57:00 > 0:57:03# Word sure gets round
0:57:10 > 0:57:12# Stuck in speed-bump city
0:57:12 > 0:57:14# Where the only thing that's pretty
0:57:14 > 0:57:16# Is the thought of getting out. #