0:00:02 > 0:00:05- Congratulations. He's been charged. - Have you not heard? Another body's turned up.
0:00:05 > 0:00:07I bet he'd love to see you.
0:00:07 > 0:00:11- I wondered about writing to him. - You should.
0:00:11 > 0:00:13A couple of weeks ago, that new Miss Wealand.
0:00:13 > 0:00:16Asking Ryan questions about his dad. Have you met her?
0:00:16 > 0:00:17It's her.
0:00:17 > 0:00:18I've done things.
0:00:18 > 0:00:19Is it to do with those women?
0:00:19 > 0:00:21You'll visit me, won't you? In prison.
0:00:21 > 0:00:23I don't think you'd like prison.
0:00:25 > 0:00:29This programme contains some strong language
0:00:29 > 0:00:32and scenes which some viewers may find upsetting from the start.
0:00:52 > 0:00:53Ah.
0:00:53 > 0:00:57Long story sideways. Our Ryan has been coming home from school
0:00:57 > 0:01:00talking about Tommy Lee Royce as this poor misunderstood fella
0:01:00 > 0:01:02that we all need to forgive.
0:01:02 > 0:01:05Someone in this school is putting ideas into his head.
0:01:05 > 0:01:08Someone left a birthday present, an expensive birthday present,
0:01:08 > 0:01:11on our doorstep with a card "from Dad".
0:01:11 > 0:01:14Now, he is starting to think of that evil, twisted, murdering bastard
0:01:14 > 0:01:17as his father because some deluded tw...
0:01:17 > 0:01:20Someone in this school is filling his head
0:01:20 > 0:01:22with deeply inappropriate ideas.
0:01:25 > 0:01:27Do you recognise that person?
0:01:31 > 0:01:34- No.- It's a woman, it ain't a lad.
0:01:34 > 0:01:37Our Clare thinks it looks like Miss Wealand, your new TA.
0:01:37 > 0:01:40That's someone in the toyshop in Hebden buying exactly the same toy
0:01:40 > 0:01:43that was left on our doorstep two weeks ago "from Dad".
0:01:43 > 0:01:45Now, obviously she could have been buying it
0:01:45 > 0:01:47for some completely other reason.
0:01:47 > 0:01:48But it's a bit of a coincidence, isn't it?
0:01:48 > 0:01:51Has Ryan said that it's her that's been talking about his dad?
0:01:51 > 0:01:54No. It's delicate. I can't talk to him about it. He gets angry with me.
0:01:54 > 0:01:56Look, this is how insidious it is. I'm the baddie.
0:01:56 > 0:01:59Look. I'm not saying you're wrong, Catherine.
0:01:59 > 0:02:02But Miss Wealand is a very kind, caring, lovely woman,
0:02:02 > 0:02:03she came to us with an excellent CV.
0:02:03 > 0:02:06I'm sure she is, I'm sure that's how she operates.
0:02:06 > 0:02:09Her and every other deluded nutcase that's ever groomed a kiddie.
0:02:09 > 0:02:10- Groomed?- Well, it's what it is.
0:02:10 > 0:02:12If every time they have a one-to-one reading session,
0:02:12 > 0:02:15she's encouraging him to think about his "dad" in some misguided,
0:02:15 > 0:02:18- sentimental way...- Hang on, look, we don't know that
0:02:18 > 0:02:20that is what's happening. Why would anybody do that?
0:02:20 > 0:02:22Cos people are weird.
0:02:22 > 0:02:24People are mad, and they don't always have it
0:02:24 > 0:02:26tattooed across their forehead.
0:02:26 > 0:02:30The staff in this school are fully aware of the situation with Ryan.
0:02:30 > 0:02:31Does she work part time?
0:02:31 > 0:02:33Yes, Mondays, Tuesdays and Wednesdays.
0:02:33 > 0:02:35- What does she do on her days off? - I've... I don't know.
0:02:35 > 0:02:37- Where does she live?- Catherine.
0:02:37 > 0:02:39- Does she talk about her private life?- Not to me.
0:02:39 > 0:02:42You see, when that present appeared on our doorstep and I saw that
0:02:42 > 0:02:43card, my first thought is...
0:02:43 > 0:02:45"This is someone who visits him in prison."
0:02:45 > 0:02:47I can't believe she visits anyone in prison.
0:02:47 > 0:02:49This is someone he's manipulated and...
0:02:49 > 0:02:51Let me introduce you to her. Come and meet her, please,
0:02:51 > 0:02:52come and see for yourself.
0:02:52 > 0:02:55Honestly, Catherine, I think you'll be very pleasantly surprised.
0:02:55 > 0:02:58No, cos we'll know soon enough if it's her, because the DIU are
0:02:58 > 0:03:00investigating everybody he has any contact with.
0:03:00 > 0:03:03In the meantime, if you could find someone else to read with him,
0:03:03 > 0:03:06I'd be very grateful, because every second - if it is her,
0:03:06 > 0:03:08and maybe it isn't, but if it is her -
0:03:08 > 0:03:10every second he spends with her,
0:03:10 > 0:03:12she is encouraging him to think about this man as his father.
0:03:12 > 0:03:16This psychopath, this man who's done nothing but destroy people's lives.
0:03:16 > 0:03:18This man who threw petrol over him 18 months ago.
0:03:18 > 0:03:22Someone here, for whatever reason, is encouraging him to think that
0:03:22 > 0:03:27he is basically an OK guy and that I am some nasty, angry bitch
0:03:27 > 0:03:29for doing my damnedest to try and protect him from him.
0:03:29 > 0:03:31OK.
0:03:32 > 0:03:34I can't talk to her, I can't get involved,
0:03:34 > 0:03:37I need to let the DIU deal with it, but I need you to be aware.
0:03:37 > 0:03:38Right.
0:04:06 > 0:04:09# There's a tower block overhead
0:04:09 > 0:04:13# All you've got's your benefits and you're barely scraping by
0:04:16 > 0:04:21# In this trouble town Troubles I've found
0:04:27 > 0:04:31# Stuck in speed bump city Where the only thing that's pretty
0:04:31 > 0:04:33# Is the thought of getting out. #
0:04:39 > 0:04:41- You all right?- Yeah.
0:04:41 > 0:04:44- You seem a bit preoccupied. - I'm fine.
0:04:44 > 0:04:47- You do know we're not going to get a cup of tea, don't you?- Yeah, well...
0:04:47 > 0:04:50I just want to make it clear
0:04:50 > 0:04:53to Alison that I am still dealing with them scrotes,
0:04:53 > 0:04:58despite Daryl's sophisticated, delicate efforts to take
0:04:58 > 0:05:00the law into his own hands.
0:05:11 > 0:05:12Sarge.
0:05:16 > 0:05:18Was it like that when you arrested him?
0:05:18 > 0:05:19I don't know.
0:05:19 > 0:05:21I can't remember.
0:05:21 > 0:05:23I've an idea it was parked the other way round.
0:05:36 > 0:05:37Hello?
0:05:37 > 0:05:39Alison?
0:05:41 > 0:05:42Daryl?
0:05:48 > 0:05:50Hello?
0:06:06 > 0:06:07LOW GROAN
0:06:09 > 0:06:10Alison?
0:06:12 > 0:06:14Alison, can you hear me?
0:06:20 > 0:06:22Alison, it's Catherine Cawood.
0:06:24 > 0:06:25Sergeant Cawood.
0:06:27 > 0:06:28Alison, listen, love, listen to me,
0:06:28 > 0:06:30I want you to squeeze my hand if you can hear me.
0:06:30 > 0:06:32Check upstairs. See if there's anyone else,
0:06:32 > 0:06:34anyone injured. And be careful.
0:06:42 > 0:06:45Bravo November 4-5. Urgent assistance required.
0:06:45 > 0:06:49Far Sunderland Farm, up Wainstalls, off Cold Edge Road.
0:06:49 > 0:06:51I need an ambulance, there's a 40-something woman,
0:06:51 > 0:06:53Alison Garrs, suspected overdose.
0:06:53 > 0:06:55Diazepam, not sure how many,
0:06:55 > 0:06:58she seems to have washed them down with vodka and whisky.
0:06:58 > 0:07:01Her pulse is weak, but she's conscious and breathing.
0:07:01 > 0:07:02Alison?
0:07:02 > 0:07:03Alison.
0:07:05 > 0:07:07There's also a male.
0:07:07 > 0:07:09I'm fairly certain it's her son, Daryl Garrs.
0:07:09 > 0:07:12Fatal gunshot injury to the back of the head.
0:07:12 > 0:07:14Possible weapon at the scene. I need F-Sup here to prove.
0:07:14 > 0:07:17I need the on-call DI, I need the duty SIO, I need a CSI,
0:07:17 > 0:07:21I need any available troops to come and secure the scene.
0:07:23 > 0:07:25God knows what's happened...
0:07:26 > 0:07:27..but it's carnage.
0:07:27 > 0:07:29'I've got all that for the log, Sarge.
0:07:29 > 0:07:31'Is there anything else?'
0:07:31 > 0:07:33I'll keep you posted.
0:07:33 > 0:07:35Alison? Who's done this, Alison?
0:07:35 > 0:07:37Who's done this to Daryl, Alison?
0:07:37 > 0:07:39- No...- Alison? Can you hear me?
0:07:42 > 0:07:44You put your arm round me, come on.
0:07:44 > 0:07:46- Upstairs is clear! - Let's get her out of this.
0:07:46 > 0:07:49- I thought you weren't supposed to move people.- Just...!
0:07:49 > 0:07:52- Where shall I get hold of her?- Man up, princess, use your initiative!
0:07:57 > 0:08:00'Ambulance on its way to you now, 4-5, from Keighley.
0:08:00 > 0:08:02'ETA 16 minutes.'
0:08:02 > 0:08:03Keighley?!
0:08:03 > 0:08:06'They're all tied up in Halifax.'
0:08:09 > 0:08:11Get your mobile out, dial 999.
0:08:12 > 0:08:15Alison! I need a paramedic talking to me,
0:08:15 > 0:08:17I need to know what the latest is with an overdose.
0:08:17 > 0:08:22Hello, there, it's Constable Shafiq Shah here, collar number 9242, I've got a lady here, she's taken...
0:08:22 > 0:08:24- Diazepam, whisky, vodka. - ..diazepam, whisky, vodka.
0:08:24 > 0:08:26We need advice, ambulance is going to be 16 minutes.
0:08:26 > 0:08:30- Come on, don't fall asleep on me, I need you awake.- Conscious, but struggling to stay with us.
0:08:30 > 0:08:34Alison, listen. Alison, who shot Daryl?
0:08:34 > 0:08:35Who did that to Daryl?
0:08:37 > 0:08:38I don't know.
0:08:38 > 0:08:40Who was here? Did you see what happened, Alison?
0:08:40 > 0:08:41Who was here?
0:08:41 > 0:08:43Nobody. Nobody was here.
0:08:43 > 0:08:46Right, you need to induce her to vomit - yeah, then what?
0:08:47 > 0:08:49Then you... Then clear the airway
0:08:49 > 0:08:51and put her in the recovery position.
0:08:51 > 0:08:53OK... Tell you what, you go back inside
0:08:53 > 0:08:54and get some water, and a blanket.
0:08:56 > 0:08:59And try not to-to tread on anything...like the floor,
0:08:59 > 0:09:01any more than you have to.
0:09:01 > 0:09:04'The request's gone in to F-Sup, 4-5. CID've been informed and they're on the way.
0:09:04 > 0:09:08'I've also put the request in for a CSI. Is there anything else I can help you with?'
0:09:08 > 0:09:10What's the best way to make someone sick?
0:09:10 > 0:09:13- 'Stick your fingers down their throat?'- Oh, yeah, and get my hand bitten off?
0:09:15 > 0:09:18OK, Alison. Listen to me.
0:09:22 > 0:09:24I need you to be sick.
0:09:24 > 0:09:26No, no, no, no.
0:09:27 > 0:09:31No. Alison. I know it's not pleasant.
0:09:33 > 0:09:36I just...want to...lie down.
0:09:36 > 0:09:39You can lie down, but I just need you to be sick first.
0:09:39 > 0:09:40No.
0:09:43 > 0:09:45Can you stick your fingers down your throat for me?
0:09:45 > 0:09:46No.
0:09:49 > 0:09:51I can't let you go to sleep until you've been sick, Alison.
0:09:51 > 0:09:54You're not lying down until you've been sick.
0:09:55 > 0:09:57Alison.
0:09:57 > 0:09:59- Sh. It's fine. - No, stay awake, Alison!
0:10:03 > 0:10:04Right. Who shot Daryl? Alison.
0:10:04 > 0:10:07Alison?
0:10:08 > 0:10:09Alison.
0:10:13 > 0:10:15I shot Daryl.
0:10:15 > 0:10:18You? You shot...? You?
0:10:19 > 0:10:23You shot Daryl? You... You shot...
0:10:24 > 0:10:27Why, Alison, why would you do... Why would you do that?
0:10:30 > 0:10:32SHE VOMITS
0:11:02 > 0:11:03RADIO BEEPS
0:11:03 > 0:11:07Bravo November 4-5. Could you contact Mr Shepherd or DI Shackleton
0:11:07 > 0:11:09at Norland Road and tell them
0:11:09 > 0:11:13there's a vehicle here that could be involved in Operation Syracuse?
0:11:13 > 0:11:15A Peugeot 205.
0:11:16 > 0:11:18It's red.
0:11:19 > 0:11:20It's damaged.
0:11:21 > 0:11:23'Will do, 4-5.'
0:11:26 > 0:11:29Alison, did you really?
0:11:29 > 0:11:30Alison.
0:11:30 > 0:11:31ALISON MURMURS
0:11:40 > 0:11:42I'm going to have to caution you.
0:11:46 > 0:11:47OK.
0:11:49 > 0:11:50I'm arresting you.
0:11:51 > 0:11:56Do you understand? I'm arresting you on suspicion of murder.
0:11:58 > 0:12:00You don't have to say anything.
0:12:02 > 0:12:03But it may harm your defence
0:12:03 > 0:12:06if you do not mention when questioned...
0:12:06 > 0:12:08something you later rely on in court.
0:12:10 > 0:12:13Anything you do say may be given in evidence.
0:12:16 > 0:12:18I don't feel so good.
0:12:37 > 0:12:39DOOR OPENS
0:12:41 > 0:12:43Steve. Can I borrow you for a bit?
0:12:45 > 0:12:47What's...? Has there been a development?
0:12:49 > 0:12:54A woman, up Wainstalls, has just shot her own son
0:12:54 > 0:12:55in the back of the head.
0:12:55 > 0:12:57By accident?
0:12:57 > 0:13:01No. She's taken an overdose, pissed out of her skull.
0:13:01 > 0:13:02And apparently,
0:13:02 > 0:13:05the reason she did it - she's just told Catherine Cawood -
0:13:05 > 0:13:09is because the son told her about "what he did to those women".
0:13:12 > 0:13:13Is he dead?
0:13:13 > 0:13:14Well dead, by the sound of things.
0:13:16 > 0:13:18Jesus.
0:13:18 > 0:13:20I know.
0:13:21 > 0:13:23I need everyone in the briefing room.
0:13:23 > 0:13:27Apparently, he also said he "didn't do that Vicky Fleming one".
0:13:29 > 0:13:33Can I get everyone in the briefing room now, folks, please? Thank you.
0:13:35 > 0:13:38And he told his mother he wouldn't have had to do that last one
0:13:38 > 0:13:42if people hadn't "kept thinking that he'd done that Vicky Fleming one".
0:13:44 > 0:13:48We need to reassess everything we've got on Vicky Fleming.
0:13:48 > 0:13:52We need to find this mysterious boyfriend one of her colleagues at work mentioned.
0:13:52 > 0:13:54The one we thought Vicky must have been making up.
0:14:14 > 0:14:16SHE GASPS
0:14:16 > 0:14:18SHE CRIES
0:14:23 > 0:14:24DOOR OPENS
0:14:32 > 0:14:34How's it going up there?
0:14:36 > 0:14:38Like Piccadilly Circus when I left.
0:14:38 > 0:14:40More detectives than primetime TV.
0:14:42 > 0:14:44I think they'll be there a while.
0:14:46 > 0:14:47Are you OK?
0:14:54 > 0:14:56She shot her own child in the back of the head.
0:15:00 > 0:15:02Are you still seeing that therapist?
0:15:02 > 0:15:03Yes!
0:15:07 > 0:15:08Yeah.
0:15:10 > 0:15:14I've got some intel for you. Tommy Lee Royce's Scottish visitor
0:15:14 > 0:15:17is a woman called Frances Drummond.
0:15:17 > 0:15:2045 years old, she's a pharmacist from Linlithgow.
0:15:20 > 0:15:21Well, she was until very recently.
0:15:23 > 0:15:24They've sent a photo.
0:15:24 > 0:15:28And I'm wondering if it's that woman in that CCTV from the toyshop.
0:15:30 > 0:15:34So, if that's Frances Drummond... who's "Miss Wealand", then?
0:15:34 > 0:15:35Well...
0:15:35 > 0:15:37she's invented Miss Wealand, hasn't she?
0:15:38 > 0:15:40Mrs Beresford told me this morning,
0:15:40 > 0:15:42"She came to us with an excellent CV."
0:15:44 > 0:15:48Mrs Beresford isn't somebody who won't check out references.
0:15:51 > 0:15:52PHONE RINGS
0:15:52 > 0:15:53Shit.
0:15:53 > 0:15:55Shit.
0:15:56 > 0:15:58Hello?
0:15:58 > 0:16:00You're not going to believe this, it's mental. She's mental.
0:16:00 > 0:16:02Who's mental?
0:16:02 > 0:16:06Well, not Miss Wealand, because Miss Wealand, Cecily Wealand -
0:16:06 > 0:16:09a qualified teaching assistant from Linlithgow - is dead.
0:16:10 > 0:16:12'What?'
0:16:13 > 0:16:16Dead, and had her identity stolen.
0:16:16 > 0:16:17So who's...
0:16:17 > 0:16:22She is called Frances Drummond. Also from Linlithgow. A pharmacist.
0:16:22 > 0:16:23God knows, don't ask.
0:16:23 > 0:16:27And she...visits Tommy Lee Royce in Gravesend
0:16:27 > 0:16:31and now lives in Hebden, as Cecily Wealand.
0:16:31 > 0:16:32Shit!
0:16:32 > 0:16:33- 'Oh, shit.'- I know.
0:16:33 > 0:16:37No. I mean, do you want me to get round to t'school?
0:16:37 > 0:16:42No. No, no, no, I'm just waiting for some intel from East Lothian.
0:16:42 > 0:16:44They're talking to Cecily Wealand's partner.
0:16:44 > 0:16:46Well, widower.
0:16:46 > 0:16:48I need a copy of the death certificate,
0:16:48 > 0:16:50and then CID'll go in to arrest her for fraud.
0:16:50 > 0:16:52Wow. Fraud?
0:16:52 > 0:16:54'Yeah. Fraud by false representation.'
0:16:54 > 0:16:56We'll deal with whatever the hell she thinks she's been
0:16:56 > 0:16:58doing regarding our Ryan after we've dealt with that.
0:16:58 > 0:17:00Hang on, she's, she's, she's...
0:17:00 > 0:17:02'She's targeted him.'
0:17:02 > 0:17:08It's properly creepy, she's obtained a job she's not qualified for,
0:17:08 > 0:17:12'she's stolen a dead woman's identity'
0:17:12 > 0:17:14specifically because this woman
0:17:14 > 0:17:17had the right kind of qualifications to allow her to get
0:17:17 > 0:17:21close to Ryan so she could fill his head with pap about Tommy Lee Royce.
0:17:21 > 0:17:26Who she, Frances Drummond, visits in Gravesend.
0:17:27 > 0:17:28PHONE RINGS
0:17:28 > 0:17:31Phone, I've gotta go, bye, bye-bye.
0:17:31 > 0:17:32CALL DISCONNECTS
0:17:39 > 0:17:45So... Cecily Wealand was Frances Drummond's sister.
0:17:47 > 0:17:5048 years old, she had a stroke nine months ago.
0:17:50 > 0:17:52Her partner...
0:17:54 > 0:17:59Her husband... thinks when she died, Cecily...
0:18:01 > 0:18:06He was in pieces, and Frances helped with a lot of practical stuff,
0:18:06 > 0:18:09and he thinks that's when she might have got her hands on various
0:18:09 > 0:18:11bits of personal documentation.
0:18:14 > 0:18:16Right - let's send 'em in to make the arrest.
0:18:16 > 0:18:19Have you got a number for this Mrs Beresford?
0:18:19 > 0:18:20I'll ring her and warn her they're coming.
0:18:20 > 0:18:23Then I'll get on to the prison liaison officer.
0:18:23 > 0:18:26They need to let Gravesend know he's been grooming this woman.
0:18:27 > 0:18:31Sad, isn't it? No criminal record.
0:18:31 > 0:18:34She's held down a perfectly respectable job
0:18:34 > 0:18:35for upward of 15 years.
0:18:35 > 0:18:37And then...
0:18:38 > 0:18:41..she does this mad thing.
0:18:41 > 0:18:42And for what?
0:18:43 > 0:18:4645 minutes once a fortnight with a psychopath.
0:18:46 > 0:18:48- 'Hello.'- Yes! Hello. It's Mike Taylor.
0:18:55 > 0:18:59I've got POLSA team pulling the place apart.
0:18:59 > 0:19:01There's all sorts of stuff in his bedroom
0:19:01 > 0:19:04and chances are there'll be stuff he's hidden as well. I think...
0:19:04 > 0:19:07Dare I say it, I'll be surprised if this isn't him.
0:19:07 > 0:19:09Have you had time to think through a media strategy?
0:19:09 > 0:19:12Yeah, the minute we're in a position to break the news...
0:19:12 > 0:19:15- Did you fast-track that DNA swab they took last week?- I did, yeah.
0:19:15 > 0:19:17'Good. Yeah, the minute we're in a position to break the news,
0:19:17 > 0:19:21'I want images of Vicky Fleming out there big time. On every news channel.
0:19:21 > 0:19:22'I want the date that flat was burnt out'
0:19:22 > 0:19:24seared into people's brains.
0:19:24 > 0:19:26I want people thinking back to that night,
0:19:26 > 0:19:28- what they were doing that night. - HORN TOOTS
0:19:28 > 0:19:30We just didn't get that message out there big enough last time,
0:19:30 > 0:19:32somebody must have seen her.
0:19:32 > 0:19:34Somebody must have seen or heard something.
0:19:34 > 0:19:35Yeah. Yep.
0:19:35 > 0:19:38Because if they didn't... God knows.
0:19:40 > 0:19:44You know - whoever burnt that flat out knew exactly what
0:19:44 > 0:19:46they were doing as regards destroying evidence.
0:19:46 > 0:19:50'And whoever mutilated her body knew what this lad was doing to these other women.'
0:19:50 > 0:19:54I'm looking at who's here... all doing their jobs.
0:19:54 > 0:19:57And I'm thinking about everybody there, everybody on the team,
0:19:57 > 0:19:59'my team, in the office.
0:19:59 > 0:20:03'Might not be a man! Which one of 'em would do that?'
0:20:03 > 0:20:05Which one of 'em would be capable of it?
0:20:05 > 0:20:08Well, there are other explanations.
0:20:08 > 0:20:10Yes, but... Address the question.
0:20:11 > 0:20:15Well, your first instinct is nobody. Nobody's capable of that.
0:20:16 > 0:20:20But then the truth is...anybody's capable of anything.
0:20:20 > 0:20:22In the right circumstances.
0:20:23 > 0:20:24So, who, then?
0:20:24 > 0:20:26Oh... I've gone all creepy now!
0:20:26 > 0:20:28You're making me feel like maybe I've done it.
0:20:28 > 0:20:31I know. It's that mad, isn't it? So come on.
0:20:31 > 0:20:33'Who? Why would I do it?'
0:20:33 > 0:20:35- You?- 'Let's start with me.'
0:20:35 > 0:20:38Under what circumstances might I end up doing that?
0:20:38 > 0:20:41'I haven't, by the way. Although I would say that.'
0:20:41 > 0:20:45Right, well. You'd do it...
0:20:45 > 0:20:47if you wanted to get rid of somebody and disguise it.
0:20:47 > 0:20:51Somebody...who'd upset you, obviously.
0:20:51 > 0:20:52I mean...
0:20:52 > 0:20:54The way she was strangled, it was...
0:20:54 > 0:20:56Not like it was an accident, was it?
0:20:56 > 0:20:59Vicky Fleming had John Wadsworth's number on her mobile phone.
0:21:01 > 0:21:02'He accounted for it.
0:21:02 > 0:21:06'He did an investigation at the building society three years ago
0:21:06 > 0:21:08'when he was on the economic crime unit,
0:21:08 > 0:21:10'and it isn't even like the number was ever used.'
0:21:10 > 0:21:13Well, there you go, that's a perfectly reasonable...
0:21:13 > 0:21:16'But people use secret shagging phones, don't they?
0:21:16 > 0:21:19'That they could destroy.
0:21:19 > 0:21:20'In a fire.'
0:21:20 > 0:21:23And the thing is, his marriage has been a bit shit lately.
0:21:23 > 0:21:25Oh, well, better arrest him, then, eh, boss(!)
0:21:27 > 0:21:28'I know.'
0:21:28 > 0:21:30I've known the man 23 years,
0:21:30 > 0:21:32you feel like washing your mouth out, don't you?
0:21:36 > 0:21:37After you.
0:21:40 > 0:21:42These gentlemen need to talk to you.
0:21:42 > 0:21:44This is...Miss Wealand.
0:21:44 > 0:21:46Frances Elizabeth Drummond.
0:21:46 > 0:21:48Sorry?
0:21:49 > 0:21:53I'm arresting you on suspicion of fraud by false representation,
0:21:53 > 0:21:57contrary to section two of the Fraud Act 2006.
0:21:57 > 0:21:58You do not have to say anything.
0:21:58 > 0:22:01But it may harm your defence if you do not mention
0:22:01 > 0:22:04when questioned something you later rely on in court.
0:22:04 > 0:22:06Anything you do say may be given in evidence.
0:22:06 > 0:22:08Do you have a mobile phone?
0:22:08 > 0:22:10Ryan Cawood needs to talk about his father.
0:22:10 > 0:22:12He needs someone who will listen to him.
0:22:12 > 0:22:14You've been here under false pretences.
0:22:14 > 0:22:16Think about Ryan.
0:22:16 > 0:22:19I have to explain that to the parents and to the governors and to the children.
0:22:19 > 0:22:20Think about Ryan.
0:22:20 > 0:22:21They liked you.
0:22:21 > 0:22:23Have you a mobile phone?
0:22:23 > 0:22:25In my handbag.
0:22:25 > 0:22:26And a coat?
0:22:28 > 0:22:29- Staffroom.- Do you want me to...?
0:22:29 > 0:22:31Would you mind?
0:22:38 > 0:22:40So what'll happen?
0:22:40 > 0:22:43They'll charge her, then they'll bail her.
0:22:43 > 0:22:44And then what?
0:22:46 > 0:22:47And then...
0:22:49 > 0:22:52..somebody might need to pop round to her house
0:22:52 > 0:22:54on Upper Brunswick Street and have a quiet word with her
0:22:54 > 0:22:57about taking the high road back to Linlithgow.
0:22:58 > 0:23:00And will that be you?
0:23:02 > 0:23:05Well, you know me, I wouldn't want her to break her bail conditions.
0:23:06 > 0:23:10She won't be allowed within 500 yards of Ryan
0:23:10 > 0:23:12and/or members of his family, so...
0:23:23 > 0:23:26Eh, you'll not credit. I looked in on Winnie.
0:23:26 > 0:23:28She's only gone and got Ilinka a job.
0:23:30 > 0:23:32- How?- Cleaning at White Lion.
0:23:32 > 0:23:34How?
0:23:34 > 0:23:36Gordon popped round. Four doors down.
0:23:36 > 0:23:40And he knows Tanya - I think it's her uncle - and she's manager.
0:23:40 > 0:23:45So, Ilinka went round there with him and Bob's your uncle.
0:23:45 > 0:23:48I said, "Can you get me a job, Winnie?"
0:23:48 > 0:23:50So, what, is she stopping?
0:23:50 > 0:23:51I know, that's what I said.
0:23:51 > 0:23:55And Winnie goes, "Well, we've got the alarm now, haven't we?
0:23:55 > 0:23:58"And I have asked Catherine...
0:23:58 > 0:24:02"to not bother sleeping in that conservatory any more."
0:24:05 > 0:24:06Are you all right?
0:24:09 > 0:24:12Just an odd day. Wi' that there this morning.
0:24:15 > 0:24:17Shot her own kid's head off.
0:24:17 > 0:24:18Your own kid.
0:24:18 > 0:24:20What does it take to do that, eh?
0:24:22 > 0:24:23I mean, obviously,
0:24:23 > 0:24:26it takes finding out you've given birth to a serial nutter.
0:24:26 > 0:24:29But then, after she'd explained that, she goes,
0:24:29 > 0:24:31"Only he didn't do that fourth one, that Vicky Fleming.
0:24:31 > 0:24:34"He wanted people to know that wasn't him." Like...
0:24:34 > 0:24:38"Oh, that's all right, then. As long as he didn't do that one."
0:24:43 > 0:24:45God alone knows what she's been through.
0:24:47 > 0:24:48So who did?
0:24:48 > 0:24:52Well, that's the 64 million question now, isn't it?
0:24:56 > 0:24:58I'll start cooking some tea.
0:25:42 > 0:25:44SHE KNOCKS
0:25:51 > 0:25:53- Oh...- Frances, I'm not here as a police officer,
0:25:53 > 0:25:56I'm here as Ryan's grandmother. I want to sort this out.
0:25:56 > 0:25:59I want to understand you and I want you to understand me.
0:25:59 > 0:26:02I know you've never had a criminal record.
0:26:02 > 0:26:04I know you've held down a very responsible,
0:26:04 > 0:26:07perfectly respectable job for the last 15 years.
0:26:07 > 0:26:09I want to understand why you've done what you've done,
0:26:09 > 0:26:11I want to know what you want.
0:26:12 > 0:26:14And I want you to know things about me.
0:26:16 > 0:26:18- Can I come in?- No...
0:26:18 > 0:26:21Or we can go down the road and get a cup of tea somewhere
0:26:21 > 0:26:23if...if you'd prefer.
0:26:47 > 0:26:50Your people came here. They took things.
0:26:50 > 0:26:54You've had a long day. Probably quite an unpleasant one.
0:26:54 > 0:26:56I won't take up any more of your time than I need to.
0:26:56 > 0:26:59- OK.- What I think, you see, is that you're not a bad person.
0:26:59 > 0:27:01Far from it.
0:27:01 > 0:27:04And you believe what you've done, you've done for the best.
0:27:04 > 0:27:08Ryan should have a relationship with his father.
0:27:08 > 0:27:09However difficult things are.
0:27:09 > 0:27:12Look, I realise everything you know about...
0:27:12 > 0:27:15this, us, you've been told by...him.
0:27:17 > 0:27:18Tommy Lee Royce. And...
0:27:21 > 0:27:22Do you mind if I sit down?
0:27:24 > 0:27:27And I realise that you are in... a relationship of some sort
0:27:27 > 0:27:29with him.
0:27:29 > 0:27:30We're getting married.
0:27:35 > 0:27:37OK, look. I know you're probably not going to accept
0:27:37 > 0:27:39a lot of the things I tell you right now.
0:27:39 > 0:27:44But obviously, I have a very different perspective on it all, to him, and I want you to hear it.
0:27:44 > 0:27:45Whether you accept it or not. OK?
0:27:46 > 0:27:48He's a sex offender.
0:27:49 > 0:27:50He raped my daughter.
0:27:50 > 0:27:53He was very fond of your daughter.
0:27:53 > 0:27:56No. No. He took advantage of her. Brutally.
0:27:56 > 0:28:00Brutally. And after Ryan was born, she took her own life.
0:28:00 > 0:28:03That was nothing to do with him. He was in prison by then.
0:28:03 > 0:28:05It had everything to do with him. She was traumatised.
0:28:05 > 0:28:09We are going to have different versions of the same story,
0:28:09 > 0:28:10but please credit me...
0:28:12 > 0:28:16I was there when she gave birth.
0:28:16 > 0:28:17And after.
0:28:18 > 0:28:20And I know what she went through.
0:28:20 > 0:28:23You deprived him of having a relationship with his child.
0:28:23 > 0:28:26You never even let him know he'd been born.
0:28:26 > 0:28:29Tommy Lee Royce is a psychopath.
0:28:30 > 0:28:34He's a murderer and he's a sex offender.
0:28:35 > 0:28:37And you must know, you must realise that.
0:28:37 > 0:28:41I think you have allowed yourself to be deluded by this dangerous man
0:28:41 > 0:28:43because you're infatuated with him.
0:28:43 > 0:28:45You might not want to believe that he raped my daughter,
0:28:45 > 0:28:48but you do know - you DO know - that he raped Ann Gallagher,
0:28:48 > 0:28:50and that he murdered Kirsten McAskill
0:28:50 > 0:28:56in the most HIDEOUS manner - and Lewis Whippey, and Brett McKendrick.
0:28:56 > 0:28:57And he tried to murder me.
0:28:57 > 0:28:59Lewis Whippey was the one who raped Ann Gallagher.
0:28:59 > 0:29:02And he was the one who murdered Kirsten McAskill. Not Tommy.
0:29:02 > 0:29:05That's not what the court decided on very solid forensic evidence.
0:29:05 > 0:29:08Tommy did kill Lewis Whippey and Brett McKendrick
0:29:08 > 0:29:10but only in self-defence.
0:29:10 > 0:29:12He attacked YOU only in self-defence.
0:29:14 > 0:29:18OK. So obviously that's his version, and clearly that's what you're choosing to believe right now.
0:29:18 > 0:29:21Which worries me, Frances, because it makes you -
0:29:21 > 0:29:23a woman who all your life
0:29:23 > 0:29:28appears to have been law-abiding, logical, kind, normal -
0:29:28 > 0:29:30it makes you seem a little bit... unhinged.
0:29:30 > 0:29:31And certainly misguided
0:29:31 > 0:29:33if that's what you're prepared to believe.
0:29:33 > 0:29:35Do you want to know what I believe?
0:29:35 > 0:29:37I believe that no-one is born evil.
0:29:39 > 0:29:42He may have done things, I know he's done things, and, yes,
0:29:42 > 0:29:44he will inevitably have put his own slant on it all
0:29:44 > 0:29:48and made it seem not as bad as it might really have been.
0:29:48 > 0:29:52But we all do that, we're all human. But he isn't evil.
0:29:52 > 0:29:56He's a product of his childhood, and he had an awful childhood.
0:29:56 > 0:30:02But he isn't intrinsically evil. We condemn the sin, not the sinner.
0:30:02 > 0:30:03With help and kindness,
0:30:03 > 0:30:07I believe he will become the person he was always capable of being.
0:30:07 > 0:30:10Good and kind and gentle and thoughtful.
0:30:10 > 0:30:12That's what I see
0:30:12 > 0:30:15when I visit him. When I look into his eyes.
0:30:16 > 0:30:20I see no evil. Not a trace of it.
0:30:20 > 0:30:21Surely it would benefit him
0:30:21 > 0:30:24and Ryan if they could have a good relationship.
0:30:26 > 0:30:28Frances, you're old enough to be his mother.
0:30:28 > 0:30:31I think you are actually older than his mother was when she died.
0:30:31 > 0:30:34Does that not... ring alarm bells?
0:30:34 > 0:30:36- Does it not worry you? - Why should it?
0:30:36 > 0:30:40He's using you. He's used you to get close to Ryan.
0:30:40 > 0:30:43He's groomed you. You've been groomed.
0:30:43 > 0:30:46You've been picked, you've been chosen, for what he can get out of you.
0:30:46 > 0:30:49He could be very fond of Ryan if you'd let him.
0:30:49 > 0:30:50Oh, no, no, Frances. You can't
0:30:50 > 0:30:53begin to imagine on how many levels that will never happen.
0:30:53 > 0:30:56Why are you so angry? So negative?
0:30:56 > 0:31:00No, I'm not. It's you who's deluded about this dangerous man
0:31:00 > 0:31:01because he's pretty.
0:31:01 > 0:31:03Oh... You're jealous.
0:31:05 > 0:31:08No. No, no, I'm shocked, I'm disappointed
0:31:08 > 0:31:12that a woman of your obvious intelligence and ability
0:31:12 > 0:31:14can allow herself to be fooled by this...
0:31:14 > 0:31:17this...this...
0:31:20 > 0:31:22You know, tell me this.
0:31:22 > 0:31:26If he looked like, I don't know, Ian Brady, or Peter Sutcliffe
0:31:26 > 0:31:27or Jimmy Savile.
0:31:27 > 0:31:29Or some other sad, twisted fuck.
0:31:31 > 0:31:33Would you believe a single word he said?
0:31:35 > 0:31:37But he doesn't look like them.
0:31:38 > 0:31:41On the inside he looks exactly like them.
0:31:41 > 0:31:45And one day, maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon
0:31:45 > 0:31:48the scales will fall away from your eyes, because they always do.
0:31:48 > 0:31:51And you'll realise how foolish he's made you look.
0:31:51 > 0:31:54And how much damage he's inflicted on you.
0:31:54 > 0:31:59A nice, kind, normal person who this really shouldn't have happened to.
0:32:05 > 0:32:07- TV:- 'At 17 minutes past four this afternoon,
0:32:07 > 0:32:11'the remains of the dead man were removed from the farmhouse.
0:32:11 > 0:32:14'A woman who also lives at the address remains under police
0:32:14 > 0:32:16'protection at a hospital in Halifax.
0:32:16 > 0:32:19'I'm not in a position at this moment to tell you any more
0:32:19 > 0:32:21'about the body that was found at Far Sunderland Farm this morning.
0:32:21 > 0:32:24'However, I can tell you that at this time, we are not
0:32:24 > 0:32:27'looking for any suspects in relation to the deaths
0:32:27 > 0:32:32'of Ana Vasalescu, Aurelija Petrovic, Lynn Dewhurst or Elise May Hughes.
0:32:32 > 0:32:34'We are, however, still appealing to the public for
0:32:34 > 0:32:38'any information regarding the death of Victoria Fleming.
0:32:38 > 0:32:41'We're asking people to think back to the evening and the night
0:32:41 > 0:32:44'of Thursday the 12th of September.
0:32:44 > 0:32:46'Anyone who lives in Ripponden, or visits Ripponden
0:32:46 > 0:32:51'to check their diaries, and think of anything suspicious they might have seen or heard.
0:32:51 > 0:32:56'If anyone was out in Ripponden that evening, particularly anyone out into the small hours
0:32:56 > 0:32:58'on Thursday 12th September,
0:32:58 > 0:33:00'we would be very keen to talk to them.'
0:33:13 > 0:33:14HE SOBS
0:33:15 > 0:33:16What've I done?
0:33:21 > 0:33:23- What've- I- done?
0:33:25 > 0:33:27Eh, what've I done? Nothing!
0:33:29 > 0:33:31Why me?
0:33:33 > 0:33:35Why me, you bastard?!
0:33:37 > 0:33:40You bastard! You bastard!
0:33:40 > 0:33:42You fucking...BASTARD!
0:33:42 > 0:33:46You bastard! What've I done? What have I done? Nothing!
0:33:46 > 0:33:47Fuck all!
0:33:47 > 0:33:52Nothing, why, why?! You bastard!
0:33:52 > 0:33:53What've I done?!
0:34:00 > 0:34:01DOOR SHUTS
0:34:11 > 0:34:13Everything all right?
0:34:13 > 0:34:15Yeah. Just...
0:34:17 > 0:34:19Neil wanted to tell you something.
0:34:23 > 0:34:25I knew Vicky Fleming.
0:34:39 > 0:34:41- Morning.- Morning.
0:34:41 > 0:34:44I was just nipping through to talk to one of your lot, actually.
0:34:44 > 0:34:47I've got some information that might be relevant about Vicky Fleming.
0:34:47 > 0:34:49I don't know if it helps but it's interesting.
0:34:49 > 0:34:51- If you can pass it on to Mr Shepherd.- Sure.
0:34:51 > 0:34:57It's a friend of me sister's, this...um...bloke...
0:34:59 > 0:35:01Are you all right? You look like you've got flu.
0:35:01 > 0:35:03Yeah. I think I'm starting with it. Go on.
0:35:03 > 0:35:06He's called Neil Ackroyd, he lives down Hebden Bridge.
0:35:06 > 0:35:09He's happy to come in and be interviewed, although...
0:35:09 > 0:35:10Well, it's sensitive.
0:35:10 > 0:35:14He knew Vicky Fleming. This is about four or five years ago.
0:35:14 > 0:35:17He was having a fling with her. He was married.
0:35:17 > 0:35:22And apparently she tried to blackmail him, well, she did blackmail him.
0:35:22 > 0:35:24She must have drugged him and taken photos of him.
0:35:24 > 0:35:25Compromising photos.
0:35:25 > 0:35:28And then threatened to e-mail them to everyone he knew -
0:35:28 > 0:35:30all his family and friends - if he didn't pay up.
0:35:30 > 0:35:35She'd downloaded his contacts. Anyway. He couldn't pay what she was asking, and she ruined his life.
0:35:35 > 0:35:38He lost his family, lost his job, his dignity. He became an alcoholic.
0:35:42 > 0:35:45That's his name and number, if you want to pass it on.
0:35:45 > 0:35:49Cos whoever killed her could've been someone she was blackmailing.
0:35:49 > 0:35:50Thank you.
0:35:52 > 0:35:54You want to get yourself home to bed.
0:35:54 > 0:35:56I know. Thank you. Thanks.
0:36:13 > 0:36:14Morning.
0:36:14 > 0:36:16Morning...ma'am.
0:36:21 > 0:36:22That John Wadsworth.
0:36:22 > 0:36:25He's not this detective you told our Daniel about, is he?
0:36:25 > 0:36:27Why?
0:36:27 > 0:36:30No, I just... I think you did well to avoid that one.
0:36:30 > 0:36:31Why?
0:36:31 > 0:36:33I just gave him some information that I thought might be
0:36:33 > 0:36:35pertinent to the investigation
0:36:35 > 0:36:38about this fella Vicky Fleming blackmailed, years ago.
0:36:38 > 0:36:41And he has this glazed look in his eye. Like...durr.
0:36:41 > 0:36:42- What, and you think it's him? - Who?
0:36:42 > 0:36:44The fella she blackmailed?
0:36:44 > 0:36:47No. No.
0:36:47 > 0:36:49But I'm thinking...
0:36:52 > 0:36:56..whoever did it could be someone else she's blackmailed.
0:36:56 > 0:37:00Whereas he's really not interested, right over his head.
0:37:00 > 0:37:02You can do a lot better than that, love.
0:37:02 > 0:37:04I didn't fancy him, if that's what you're thinking.
0:37:07 > 0:37:09Good morning, you lucky people!
0:37:28 > 0:37:30INAUDIBLE CONVERSATION
0:37:51 > 0:37:53Morning.
0:37:53 > 0:37:54Can I help?
0:37:54 > 0:37:58Yeah. I hope so. I'd like to speak to someone.
0:37:58 > 0:38:02I've got some information that might be relevant
0:38:02 > 0:38:06regarding the...um... Victoria Fleming.
0:38:08 > 0:38:11Right, this morning. We've got two people who've come forward.
0:38:11 > 0:38:17We've got a...Gary Sugden.
0:38:17 > 0:38:20Yeah. Who's the landlord of the Wills O'Nats pub up Slaithwaite.
0:38:20 > 0:38:23And Gemma Tomkinson, who works at the Travel Inn at Ainley Top.
0:38:25 > 0:38:29Both of them are saying they've seen a woman who they believe might have been Vicky Fleming
0:38:29 > 0:38:34at their establishments, with a man. Both are talking about a man smartly dressed, professional,
0:38:34 > 0:38:37shirt and tie, suit, clean-shaven, white, late 40s,
0:38:37 > 0:38:40early 50s, at around the time she went missing.
0:38:40 > 0:38:43She - this Gemma - describes the man as not looking very well.
0:38:43 > 0:38:46So, interviewing those two this morning takes priority.
0:38:46 > 0:38:49This Gemma also reckons they might still have some CCTV,
0:38:49 > 0:38:51even though it's more than 28 days since it happened.
0:38:51 > 0:38:54She's checked her records, and this was...
0:38:55 > 0:38:57..three days before the flat was burnt out.
0:38:57 > 0:39:00Three days before Vicky Fleming last turned up at work.
0:39:00 > 0:39:02We've also had a number of calls from people who
0:39:02 > 0:39:05were in Ripponden that night, these are all new people,
0:39:05 > 0:39:07people who did not come forward last time.
0:39:17 > 0:39:23Sorry, this is...probably mad. But when we were doing house-to-house
0:39:23 > 0:39:25weeks ago, me and John Wadsworth -
0:39:25 > 0:39:27and I'm not just saying this because he stood me up -
0:39:27 > 0:39:30he was never off his phone, making furtive phone calls.
0:39:30 > 0:39:33And I remember saying to Shaf, "He's having an affair."
0:39:33 > 0:39:35And then like... a couple of days later,
0:39:35 > 0:39:36a week after my mother died,
0:39:36 > 0:39:39he was asking me how he could get his hands on £1,000.
0:39:39 > 0:39:41And he looked like shit.
0:39:41 > 0:39:44And I know everyone's busy thinking outside the box,
0:39:44 > 0:39:46but the fact does remain that it'd make a lot more sense
0:39:46 > 0:39:49if it was someone inside the investigation.
0:39:49 > 0:39:51Like he was being blackmailed.
0:39:53 > 0:39:57Catherine. There's a fella. I've put him in there - Graham Tattersall.
0:39:57 > 0:40:00He says he's got some information about Victoria Fleming,
0:40:00 > 0:40:02and he wants to see a detective, but they're still all
0:40:02 > 0:40:04up in the briefing and he's itching to get off to work.
0:40:04 > 0:40:06- Could you...?- Sure.
0:40:09 > 0:40:11It might be relevant. I'll mention it.
0:40:18 > 0:40:19Mr Tattersall? I'm Sergeant Cawood.
0:40:19 > 0:40:21If you want to give me a few brief details I can
0:40:21 > 0:40:24pass your information on to CID, and somebody'll contact you.
0:40:26 > 0:40:27Er. OK.
0:40:27 > 0:40:31Well. The thing is...
0:40:31 > 0:40:36I've been having a...in a... having a...in a...
0:40:38 > 0:40:40..relationship.
0:40:41 > 0:40:43She's married. I'm married.
0:40:43 > 0:40:47But... And her husband was having an affair with someone else. But...
0:40:47 > 0:40:50Anyway, he was away from home one night -
0:40:50 > 0:40:53on obs, he said. He's a police officer.
0:40:53 > 0:40:55And I was round at her house.
0:40:55 > 0:40:58Cos normally when he's on obs, he's out all night. So...
0:41:00 > 0:41:02This particular night...
0:41:02 > 0:41:05he turned up, one in the morning.
0:41:05 > 0:41:06Yeah.
0:41:06 > 0:41:09Which was...exciting.
0:41:09 > 0:41:12But the point is, she rang me. Last night.
0:41:12 > 0:41:17Amanda, his wife, did. And we checked our diaries.
0:41:17 > 0:41:20And it's the same night that Victoria Fleming went missing.
0:41:20 > 0:41:23Well, the same night her flat was burnt out.
0:41:23 > 0:41:26Sorry, you think this bloke might have something to do with Vicky Fleming
0:41:26 > 0:41:29- because he caught you in bed with his wife at one in the morning?- Yes.
0:41:31 > 0:41:32What's his name?
0:41:32 > 0:41:33John Wadsworth.
0:41:35 > 0:41:38Paul, can you interview this Gemma Tomkinson?
0:41:38 > 0:41:41John, can you phone these people back who've left messages?
0:41:41 > 0:41:45I'm just going to go to the chemist and get something for this, this cold.
0:41:45 > 0:41:48Oh, yeah. You do look like shit warmed up.
0:41:48 > 0:41:50- I shan't be long. - Go home.
0:41:50 > 0:41:51I'm fine.
0:41:51 > 0:41:52Alastair...
0:41:56 > 0:41:59He did this. After they'd arrested that lad, that first one,
0:41:59 > 0:42:02that Saturday morning. He must have thought he'd got away with it...
0:42:02 > 0:42:04He came round our house and he knocked me about.
0:42:04 > 0:42:08And he was going, "Where is she, then? Where's this woman I've been having this affair with?"
0:42:08 > 0:42:09I shan't be long.
0:42:12 > 0:42:14Obviously by then she was dead, so he could say that.
0:42:17 > 0:42:18John?
0:42:21 > 0:42:23John!
0:42:27 > 0:42:29John.
0:42:29 > 0:42:30Watch out!
0:42:31 > 0:42:32John, wait.
0:42:35 > 0:42:36I just want to talk to you!
0:42:40 > 0:42:41John!
0:42:41 > 0:42:43I just want to talk to you.
0:42:43 > 0:42:44ENGINE STARTS John!
0:42:48 > 0:42:51Fucking idiot! What you doing?
0:42:53 > 0:42:54Jesus!
0:42:57 > 0:42:58Bravo November 4-5.
0:42:58 > 0:43:00I'm chasing - it's complicated -
0:43:00 > 0:43:04'but I'm chasing DS John Wadsworth, who I believe has been involved in the murder of Vicky Fleming.'
0:43:07 > 0:43:09Follow that BMW! Put your foot down.
0:43:09 > 0:43:12Units to Sowerby Bridge railway station.
0:43:14 > 0:43:16SIREN WAILS
0:43:16 > 0:43:18For once in your life, in the right place at the right time,
0:43:18 > 0:43:20doesn't it feel good, eh?
0:43:20 > 0:43:23God knows what his plans are, but this is a dead end.
0:43:23 > 0:43:26Oh, bollocks!
0:43:35 > 0:43:36Oh!
0:43:40 > 0:43:41Throw it broadside!
0:43:50 > 0:43:51Handbrake!
0:43:54 > 0:43:55B-R-A-K-E.
0:43:56 > 0:43:58TRAIN HORN BLARES
0:44:11 > 0:44:14He's heading straight for the tracks.
0:44:14 > 0:44:164-5, do NOT follow!
0:44:19 > 0:44:22Bravo November 4-5, do not follow.
0:44:26 > 0:44:27Bollocks.
0:45:05 > 0:45:07You don't come near me!
0:45:07 > 0:45:11John, it's not that high, you're not going to...
0:45:11 > 0:45:13You're just going to break your legs and make a mess.
0:45:13 > 0:45:14- Piss off.- Shit.
0:45:14 > 0:45:17'He's on the bridge opposite the nick, he looks like he's going to jump.'
0:45:19 > 0:45:20Shit.
0:45:21 > 0:45:25Come on, we both know she was blackmailing you!
0:45:25 > 0:45:27I burnt the evidence, didn't I?!
0:45:27 > 0:45:29There's other people's evidence.
0:45:29 > 0:45:31There's this Neil bloke I told you about, for one.
0:45:31 > 0:45:36And there's...more than likely there's others.
0:45:36 > 0:45:37She spiked my drink!
0:45:39 > 0:45:42Took photos of me looking stupid and she was going to send them
0:45:42 > 0:45:44- to people!- I know. - Everybody!
0:45:44 > 0:45:48People I work with, my mother, my kids,
0:45:48 > 0:45:50people I don't even know that well!
0:45:50 > 0:45:53They're just people - people you don't even like -
0:45:53 > 0:45:56they're just people you've had on your phone for years!
0:45:56 > 0:46:00I know! I know. I know how she operated.
0:46:00 > 0:46:04Look, she ruined people's lives, I tell you, this bloke I know...
0:46:04 > 0:46:07I asked her to just let me go and she wouldn't, and I begged her!
0:46:10 > 0:46:11And I didn't mean to kill her.
0:46:13 > 0:46:15Well, I didn't go in there to kill her,
0:46:15 > 0:46:17it just...
0:46:20 > 0:46:23And so I did this ridiculous thing to her.
0:46:25 > 0:46:26Hideous.
0:46:28 > 0:46:30And God knows that's not me.
0:46:30 > 0:46:33That's not what I'm like. I'm not... I'm not a monster,
0:46:33 > 0:46:34- I never have been.- John...
0:46:34 > 0:46:37You come any closer, I'll take you with me!
0:46:38 > 0:46:40You were blackmailed. It was provocation.
0:46:40 > 0:46:43That's mitigating circumstances.
0:46:43 > 0:46:46And it sounds to me like manslaughter.
0:46:46 > 0:46:48It's ten years - less.
0:46:48 > 0:46:50And you and me both know you could be out.
0:46:50 > 0:46:52Yeah, but I'll never work again.
0:46:54 > 0:46:55- Have you got children?- Oh!
0:46:55 > 0:46:57No, I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
0:46:57 > 0:46:58Shut up!
0:46:58 > 0:47:00Sorry, sorry.
0:47:01 > 0:47:02I've...
0:47:05 > 0:47:09I've-I've... I've not done any negotiating courses.
0:47:09 > 0:47:10Have you?
0:47:12 > 0:47:13Yeah.
0:47:14 > 0:47:16Suicide intervention training.
0:47:16 > 0:47:19So... So...
0:47:20 > 0:47:22So what should I be saying to you?
0:47:25 > 0:47:29You should be telling me that you're here to make sure I get out of this alive.
0:47:29 > 0:47:33Yeah, well, I am. I am here for that.
0:47:33 > 0:47:34You should use my name a lot.
0:47:34 > 0:47:37OK. John.
0:47:39 > 0:47:45You've got to be assertive. Reassuring. Empathetic, and kind.
0:47:45 > 0:47:48And you've got to listen. You've got to be a good listener.
0:47:48 > 0:47:51And you tell them that even though they can't see a way forward,
0:47:51 > 0:47:52you can.
0:47:52 > 0:47:56And how in 24 hours' time,
0:47:56 > 0:47:58it'll all seem very different to what it might look like now.
0:48:00 > 0:48:01But you see, it won't.
0:48:01 > 0:48:03This can only get worse.
0:48:05 > 0:48:08How many people have you talked down over the years, John?
0:48:08 > 0:48:10- 17.- Wow.
0:48:10 > 0:48:13And I never lost one. Not one.
0:48:13 > 0:48:16One lad jumped before I got there, but...apart from him.
0:48:18 > 0:48:20So, what you going to do?
0:48:20 > 0:48:22Mess my record up before I've even started?
0:48:25 > 0:48:29You take your time, I'll just... I'll just stand here.
0:48:29 > 0:48:33OK? I'm not going anywhere. All right? I'll just listen.
0:48:33 > 0:48:35Or I'll talk. Whichever you prefer.
0:48:35 > 0:48:37You tell me, John.
0:48:42 > 0:48:43I love my kids.
0:48:44 > 0:48:45Yeah.
0:48:53 > 0:48:54Oh!
0:49:01 > 0:49:04Really need ETA on that ambulance, thank you.
0:49:14 > 0:49:16- You all right, Sarge?- Yeah.
0:49:28 > 0:49:29POLICE RADIO CHATTER
0:49:29 > 0:49:30SIREN BLARES
0:49:35 > 0:49:36SIRENS APPROACH
0:49:51 > 0:49:53There but for the grace of God.
0:49:54 > 0:49:56Really?
0:49:56 > 0:49:58He stuck a broken bottle inside her
0:49:58 > 0:50:00and then prayed to God someone else'd get copped for it.
0:50:00 > 0:50:02That isn't what I said to him, by the way.
0:50:02 > 0:50:04I did try and talk him down.
0:50:05 > 0:50:07I'm pleased to hear it.
0:50:10 > 0:50:11You all right?
0:50:13 > 0:50:15I thought I'd got through to him. I thought he was stepping down.
0:50:17 > 0:50:18Then he just went limp
0:50:18 > 0:50:20and this odd look came over his face.
0:50:26 > 0:50:28SOBBING: He said, "I loved my kids."
0:50:33 > 0:50:34What a shit week!
0:50:38 > 0:50:39Sorry.
0:50:42 > 0:50:45I've had some more information through. From the DIU.
0:50:45 > 0:50:48About some of Tommy Lee Royce's other visitors.
0:50:49 > 0:50:50Oh, yeah?
0:50:50 > 0:50:52Interesting reading.
0:50:53 > 0:50:56And I've had a message from the prison liaison service as well.
0:51:01 > 0:51:02TV ON
0:51:02 > 0:51:03DOOR UNLOCKS
0:51:05 > 0:51:07It's all right, son, sit down.
0:51:08 > 0:51:10It's bad news, I'm afraid.
0:51:10 > 0:51:12Pending an inquiry into some of the people who visit you,
0:51:12 > 0:51:15it's been decided - by the Wing Supervisor, and others - that
0:51:15 > 0:51:18your visits and phone calls will be suspended for a while.
0:51:18 > 0:51:19As of now.
0:51:19 > 0:51:21Why?
0:51:21 > 0:51:22That's all I can tell you.
0:51:25 > 0:51:26TV OFF
0:51:27 > 0:51:28Suspended? What?
0:51:29 > 0:51:31Everyone who visits me?
0:51:31 > 0:51:33- As I've explained. - Phone calls?
0:51:33 > 0:51:34- Yeah.- Why?
0:51:34 > 0:51:37- I've told you everything I can. - Why? Why? Fucking why?
0:51:37 > 0:51:39Calm down. Don't do that, Tommy.
0:51:41 > 0:51:42Calm down, Tommy!
0:52:05 > 0:52:07Hello, Frances.
0:52:07 > 0:52:08What do you want?
0:52:11 > 0:52:15These are some of Tommy Lee Royce's other visitors.
0:52:15 > 0:52:17That one - Gina Flynn -
0:52:17 > 0:52:20she's a 45-year-old accountant from Warwick.
0:52:20 > 0:52:23Turns out he's engaged to her as well as you.
0:52:25 > 0:52:29And that one - Justine Niewinski - she's from Essex. A student.
0:52:29 > 0:52:31Media and politics. She's 23.
0:52:33 > 0:52:34He's engaged to her as well.
0:52:36 > 0:52:37And that one - Lena Dixon -
0:52:37 > 0:52:40fitness instructor from Leicestershire.
0:52:40 > 0:52:41Also engaged to him.
0:52:47 > 0:52:50You take care of yourself, OK?
0:53:02 > 0:53:05- Hiya, Sarge.- Do you want to go get yourself a cup of tea?
0:53:13 > 0:53:14Hello, Alison.
0:53:25 > 0:53:27How are you?
0:53:40 > 0:53:42I can't begin to imagine how you must feel.
0:53:44 > 0:53:47But I just wanted to tell you that...
0:53:47 > 0:53:48I had a daughter.
0:53:51 > 0:53:52That died.
0:53:53 > 0:53:55She was 18.
0:53:56 > 0:53:58And I know it's not the same,
0:53:58 > 0:54:02but it's all I've got to relate it to.
0:54:05 > 0:54:07And I just wanted to say...
0:54:08 > 0:54:10..don't be short of someone to talk to.
0:54:13 > 0:54:15If you want to.
0:54:17 > 0:54:18You know where I am.
0:54:19 > 0:54:21That's my number.
0:54:26 > 0:54:28You can always ring me.
0:54:47 > 0:54:49DOOR UNLOCKS
0:54:52 > 0:54:54There's your post, sweet cheeks.
0:55:29 > 0:55:31INDISTINCT VOICES IN BACKGROUND
0:56:05 > 0:56:06You OK?
0:56:09 > 0:56:13It was odd the other day, talking to Alison in the hospital.
0:56:13 > 0:56:14Why?
0:56:15 > 0:56:17She told me her story.
0:56:19 > 0:56:25You know - yet another everyday story of country folk.
0:56:29 > 0:56:30Her dad.
0:56:32 > 0:56:34He interfered with her.
0:56:37 > 0:56:39Daryl was his son, not his grandson.
0:56:40 > 0:56:41Jesus.
0:56:43 > 0:56:46She brought up this kid, this child, this...
0:56:49 > 0:56:50..aberration.
0:56:52 > 0:56:56That she loved and hated because...
0:56:56 > 0:56:57what else could she do?
0:56:57 > 0:56:59RYAN CHATTERING IN BACKGROUND
0:57:01 > 0:57:04And she was terrified of him finding out, so...
0:57:04 > 0:57:08she tried to stop him bothering with the local lads.
0:57:08 > 0:57:11So they picked on him. And they knew anyway.
0:57:11 > 0:57:12They knew something, somehow.
0:57:14 > 0:57:19So they became like outcasts, pariahs.
0:57:21 > 0:57:23Something to poke fun at.
0:57:27 > 0:57:28I said, "Did he ever know?"
0:57:31 > 0:57:34And she said she thought he'd worked it out.
0:57:35 > 0:57:37Although they never talked about it.
0:57:40 > 0:57:42She said, "Because I never had the language."
0:57:48 > 0:57:49And I thought, "Yeah.
0:57:52 > 0:57:54"I know."
0:58:05 > 0:58:08- Can I get a dog?- No.
0:58:08 > 0:58:09Why?
0:58:09 > 0:58:11Because you won't look after it.
0:58:11 > 0:58:12No, I would.
0:58:12 > 0:58:15I'll walk it and feed it and everything.
0:58:15 > 0:58:17Yeah, for t'first week.
0:58:17 > 0:58:20So I was thinking maybe a Rottweiler.
0:58:20 > 0:58:22Oh, are you?
0:58:22 > 0:58:23An Alsatian, then.
0:58:23 > 0:58:25- An orang-utan.- Oh, perfect.
0:58:25 > 0:58:28- OK, a Doberman.- Yeah, right.
0:58:29 > 0:58:30- A Great Dane?- No.
0:58:30 > 0:58:33A Siberian Husky. A St Bernard!
0:58:33 > 0:58:34Ha!
0:58:34 > 0:58:36Is that a yes?
0:58:36 > 0:58:39- Why can't you get something smaller? - Like a pit bull?
0:58:39 > 0:58:40No, like a goldfish.
0:58:40 > 0:58:43Fish are rubbish! You can't talk to fish.
0:58:43 > 0:58:47I need something with some more personality.
0:58:47 > 0:58:49Granny. Granny!
0:58:49 > 0:58:51I'd get him a dog just to shut him up if I were you, Mother!