Dead Man Talking

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0:00:12 > 0:00:15- Sandra. - I'm in a rush, I'm sorry Tom.

0:00:15 > 0:00:19I left a couple of messages on your phone. Four, actually.

0:00:19 > 0:00:22- Yeah.- You're avoiding me. - I've just been very busy.

0:00:23 > 0:00:27"You've been busy". We're family, Sandra.

0:00:27 > 0:00:31- You're the only blood relative I have left.- I'm sorry, Tom.

0:00:53 > 0:00:54He's in the room with us now.

0:00:56 > 0:00:58He's standing just behind you, Victoria.

0:00:58 > 0:01:01Vicky.

0:01:01 > 0:01:03Oh, he's frowning.

0:01:03 > 0:01:07I don't think he liked you shortening your name, did he?

0:01:07 > 0:01:13- He hated it. - He seems agitated again.

0:01:13 > 0:01:18It's as if he can't relax, can't settle.

0:01:18 > 0:01:20Because of this unfinished business?

0:01:20 > 0:01:22I think so, yeah.

0:01:22 > 0:01:25He says he needs your help.

0:01:25 > 0:01:30He needs you to help him put it right.

0:01:32 > 0:01:34Now he's holding up his hand.

0:01:35 > 0:01:38- There's a key in it. - This is what he did last time.

0:01:38 > 0:01:44- What does this key look like?- Look, I must ask you to remain silent.

0:01:47 > 0:01:50The connection to the spirit world is always tenuous.

0:01:51 > 0:01:53What does the key mean?

0:01:53 > 0:01:57I'm not sure... He seems to think that you might know.

0:02:00 > 0:02:04Look, I don't think he's at all happy that there is a stranger in the room.

0:02:04 > 0:02:06We need to know what happened the night he died.

0:02:08 > 0:02:09No, no.

0:02:09 > 0:02:14I'm sorry. He's moving into the darkness.

0:02:16 > 0:02:18Perhaps next time.

0:02:19 > 0:02:23If this "unfinished business" refers to the burglary, it means it wasn't random.

0:02:23 > 0:02:26My father was targeted, which makes his death murder, doesn't it?

0:02:26 > 0:02:29I'd like a word with Mr Carter in private, please, Vicky.

0:02:29 > 0:02:31OK.

0:02:33 > 0:02:35Thank you, again.

0:02:35 > 0:02:37Pleasure.

0:02:41 > 0:02:43You're a policewoman.

0:02:43 > 0:02:46- Detective Superintendent. - You were less than honest.

0:02:46 > 0:02:48Coming from you, Mr Carter...

0:02:48 > 0:02:51You're sceptical. That's an occupational hazard.

0:02:53 > 0:02:55Much of what I do seems outlandish, I understand that.

0:02:55 > 0:03:00Actually, taking money from gullible people is quite commonplace.

0:03:00 > 0:03:06Don't worry, what you're doing isn't illegal, although it probably should be.

0:03:06 > 0:03:12I'm only here to evaluate whether there's any new evidence concerning the death of Miss Anderson's father.

0:03:12 > 0:03:15I don't think what you have to say qualifies as evidence.

0:03:15 > 0:03:18- You lost someone who means a... - I'm not gullible.

0:03:18 > 0:03:19Been gone a while now.

0:03:19 > 0:03:21Your father.

0:03:26 > 0:03:28This kind of cheap parlour trick...

0:03:28 > 0:03:30He's disappointed.

0:03:30 > 0:03:33There's someone you should be closer to.

0:03:36 > 0:03:37It's a sibling.

0:03:39 > 0:03:42There's someone you've neglected.

0:03:45 > 0:03:48# It's all right, it's OK

0:03:48 > 0:03:50# Doesn't really matter if you're old and grey

0:03:50 > 0:03:53# It's all right, I say, it's OK

0:03:53 > 0:03:56# Listen to what I say

0:03:56 > 0:03:58# It's all right, doing fine

0:03:58 > 0:04:02# Doesn't really matter if the sun don't shine

0:04:02 > 0:04:04# It's all right, I say, it's OK

0:04:04 > 0:04:07# We're getting to the end of the day... #

0:04:09 > 0:04:12Douglas Anderson, a wealthy financier

0:04:12 > 0:04:14who made his money in investment banking

0:04:14 > 0:04:15in Hong Kong.

0:04:15 > 0:04:19He retired and moved back to England with his family in 1997

0:04:19 > 0:04:21when Hong Kong was handed back to the Chinese.

0:04:21 > 0:04:23About 18 months ago,

0:04:23 > 0:04:27Mr Anderson returned to his house in Knightsbridge

0:04:27 > 0:04:30after a late dinner, where it appears, he surprised an intruder.

0:04:30 > 0:04:35A struggle ensued and Anderson sustained several blows to the face and body.

0:04:35 > 0:04:39According to the coroner, he suffered a fatal heart attack,

0:04:39 > 0:04:44- but had a pre-existing heart condition.- So the death wasn't necessarily deliberate?

0:04:44 > 0:04:45There's no way to know.

0:04:45 > 0:04:48Apparently there was a wealth of physical evidence,

0:04:48 > 0:04:53fingerprints at the scene, but the original investigation failed to identify the intruder.

0:04:53 > 0:04:57- He had no known enemies.- Maybe just at the wrong place at the wrong time?

0:04:57 > 0:05:01A couple of days ago, Victoria Anderson, the victim's daughter,

0:05:01 > 0:05:06claimed to have uncovered new evidence suggesting that this burglary may not have been random.

0:05:06 > 0:05:10And if that's the case, then perhaps his death wasn't accidental, either.

0:05:11 > 0:05:18Vicky had been in contact with this man, Sebastian Carter.

0:05:18 > 0:05:20Carter is a clairvoyant, a psychic.

0:05:20 > 0:05:26He says that he'd been in touch with Anderson's spirit and that Anderson

0:05:26 > 0:05:31had unfinished business which he wished Vicky to conclude for him before he could find peace.

0:05:31 > 0:05:32Yes, I know.

0:05:33 > 0:05:36- This is the bloke you went to see yesterday?- Yeah.- And?

0:05:36 > 0:05:38And I don't know.

0:05:38 > 0:05:42- You don't know if he's really talking to the dead or not(?) - Well, he could be.

0:05:42 > 0:05:44Excuse me?

0:05:44 > 0:05:48No, no, no. I was on a case in the '80s. '84, I think.

0:05:48 > 0:05:53And we knew this bloke had offed his wife, right, but we couldn't prove it, cos there was no body.

0:05:53 > 0:05:57Well, one of the team brought in a mate of his who was into this clairvoyant stuff

0:05:57 > 0:06:00and he pinpointed where she was buried.

0:06:00 > 0:06:02How?

0:06:02 > 0:06:05Well, she told him, apparently, you know, from the other side.

0:06:05 > 0:06:08You're not buying any of this stuff, Jack?

0:06:08 > 0:06:10Well, of course I'm not, are you?

0:06:10 > 0:06:12Carter was...

0:06:12 > 0:06:14- Some of the things he said... - Like what?

0:06:14 > 0:06:17- He was quite impressive. - He's a conman.

0:06:17 > 0:06:19I'm not saying he's not a good one.

0:06:19 > 0:06:22But what these people do is just cold reading.

0:06:22 > 0:06:28- Cold reading?- Educated guesses based on your body language, your appearance and whatever.

0:06:28 > 0:06:31I mean, for example, one glance at Brian and I can tell you

0:06:31 > 0:06:33that he had porridge this morning.

0:06:34 > 0:06:35How did you know that?

0:06:35 > 0:06:37It's all down your front.

0:06:37 > 0:06:40All right, these so-called clairvoyants are impressive,

0:06:40 > 0:06:46but come on... Don't let's kid ourselves.

0:06:46 > 0:06:48What, you think there might be something in this?

0:06:48 > 0:06:51No, course not. Don't be silly.

0:06:52 > 0:06:57It's just...there was something that Carter said during the consultation.

0:06:57 > 0:07:02He said that he could see Anderson standing in the room with us and that Anderson... Wait.

0:07:02 > 0:07:07..Anderson was holding a key in his hand and somehow this key was significant.

0:07:07 > 0:07:11- What kind of key?- I don't know, but the point is, Anderson's body

0:07:11 > 0:07:15was found on the floor of his study and it was surrounded by keys.

0:07:15 > 0:07:18It appears that the intruder found Anderson's keyring in his pocket

0:07:18 > 0:07:22and was trying to open desk drawers and various cabinets in the room.

0:07:22 > 0:07:26- And none of this was made public at the time?- No.- Lucky guess.

0:07:26 > 0:07:28- Why would you guess a key? - Because it's general!

0:07:28 > 0:07:33It might not be a physical key, it might be a key to a code or a keyword.

0:07:33 > 0:07:35It's open to interpretation.

0:07:35 > 0:07:39- That's how these people work. - Maybe he did know something.

0:07:39 > 0:07:40Oh, don't you start.

0:07:40 > 0:07:45No, no, look, what I am saying is, maybe this Carter character

0:07:45 > 0:07:52- knew something about the burglary, but is pretending that he's being told by a ghost?- That's interesting.

0:07:52 > 0:07:53Yeah, yeah, it is.

0:07:53 > 0:07:56Shouldn't be too difficult to prove, either.

0:07:56 > 0:07:59I met him at a dinner, a charity thing.

0:07:59 > 0:08:01I can't even remember what it was for now.

0:08:01 > 0:08:05There was a drinks reception before we sat down to eat

0:08:05 > 0:08:08and I fell into conversation with Mr Carter about my work.

0:08:08 > 0:08:09You're a photographer?

0:08:09 > 0:08:12Yeah. Wildlife mostly.

0:08:12 > 0:08:15It was a hobby that became a job. Those are mine.

0:08:16 > 0:08:21Heron Island, on the Great Barrier Reef. It's an amazing place.

0:08:21 > 0:08:23My dad bought a holiday home there when I was a kid.

0:08:23 > 0:08:28I went back there last year, after he died, to get my head together.

0:08:28 > 0:08:29Those were all taken then.

0:08:29 > 0:08:33Ha! A noddy tern!

0:08:34 > 0:08:35It's a kind of bird.

0:08:39 > 0:08:40Whoa!

0:08:40 > 0:08:42- (Sorry.) - (Sit down!)

0:08:42 > 0:08:44Sebastian Carter?

0:08:44 > 0:08:46Yes, sorry.

0:08:46 > 0:08:49I was talking to him at this drinks thing, when he suddenly told me

0:08:49 > 0:08:52he could see my father, standing right behind me.

0:08:52 > 0:08:55- And you believed him?- Yes, I did.

0:08:55 > 0:09:01- He said that your father seemed agitated?- He said that he was unable to find rest, that he had some

0:09:01 > 0:09:05kind of unfinished business that needed to be taken care of first.

0:09:05 > 0:09:08- What unfinished business? - I don't know.

0:09:08 > 0:09:13I've had several consultations with Mr Carter since then, but we can't get to the bottom of it.

0:09:13 > 0:09:16And how much did these consultations cost?

0:09:16 > 0:09:18Oh, he's not charging me for them.

0:09:18 > 0:09:23Mr Carter feels an obligation to help restless spirits find peace.

0:09:23 > 0:09:27I think this unfinished business has something to do with Hong Kong.

0:09:27 > 0:09:32- Why do you say that?- Because we left Hong Kong under a bit of a cloud.

0:09:32 > 0:09:36I was young and I wasn't told very much, but I remember my mother

0:09:36 > 0:09:42saying that there were all sorts of accusations flying around about my Dad's business being dodgy, somehow.

0:09:42 > 0:09:43Dodgy how?

0:09:43 > 0:09:48Dad always shrugged it off, said there was nothing to it.

0:09:48 > 0:09:50But when we moved back here, my mother was diagnosed

0:09:50 > 0:09:53with cancer and my Dad retired, so he could look after her.

0:09:53 > 0:09:56Whatever is disturbing him has to be to do with Hong Kong.

0:09:56 > 0:10:01But unfinished business could also refer to a personal matter, though, couldn't it?

0:10:01 > 0:10:06Yes, I suppose it could, but I have no idea what that could be.

0:10:06 > 0:10:09My dad didn't have much of a personal life after my mother died.

0:10:09 > 0:10:12And this was the family home?

0:10:13 > 0:10:16And your father's body was found in the study?

0:10:16 > 0:10:18Yes, I found him.

0:10:22 > 0:10:23Thank you.

0:10:26 > 0:10:29- Has anything changed in here since it happened?- No.

0:10:29 > 0:10:33I occasionally have to go through files for something, home insurance

0:10:33 > 0:10:36papers or whatever, but otherwise, it was Dad's space.

0:10:36 > 0:10:38He didn't like us to come in here.

0:10:38 > 0:10:40And your father's body was found where?

0:10:40 > 0:10:46- Erm... Over there, in front of the desk.- You were still living here at the time, weren't you?

0:10:46 > 0:10:48Yeah. Dad liked company.

0:10:48 > 0:10:51Although, that night, I'd been out.

0:10:51 > 0:10:54I had a boyfriend at the time in North London and I'd stayed there.

0:10:54 > 0:10:57When I came home in the morning, I found him.

0:10:57 > 0:11:00There couldn't have been anybody else in the house?

0:11:00 > 0:11:05- No. Penny had moved into her own place a few months earlier.- Penny?

0:11:05 > 0:11:08- Miss Anderson's sister. - Adopted sister, yeah.

0:11:08 > 0:11:11- You and Penny are close?- Very close.

0:11:11 > 0:11:16About these keys, the crime scene report said there were a lot of keys on the floor.

0:11:16 > 0:11:21Dad liked to keep his keys in one of those old-fashioned leather pouches.

0:11:21 > 0:11:27Aside from the house and the car, there were keys for the desk

0:11:27 > 0:11:30over there and some of these antique boxes.

0:11:30 > 0:11:34None of them were ever used, but Dad liked to keep them all in one place.

0:11:34 > 0:11:37So the thief tried out all the keys, but nothing was stolen?

0:11:37 > 0:11:40Not as far as I could tell. The boxes were already empty

0:11:40 > 0:11:43and the paperwork in the desk seemed complete.

0:11:43 > 0:11:46Well, there's things in here must be worth a few bob in their own right.

0:11:46 > 0:11:51- Nothing was missing?- The police assume that Dad must have disturbed him before he had the chance.

0:11:51 > 0:11:56You really believe that this Sebastian Carter character is in touch with your father's spirit?

0:11:56 > 0:12:00Yes, Mr Halford. That is what I believe.

0:12:00 > 0:12:06According to the original investigation, Vicky's alibi for the night of the burglary was watertight.

0:12:06 > 0:12:09- And there was no motive. - Except money.

0:12:09 > 0:12:14- She did get a nice big house out of it.- Yeah, but look at the place, it's like a shrine to her dad.

0:12:14 > 0:12:15OK... Hold on, hold on.

0:12:18 > 0:12:23Penny Anderson's real father was a man called John Plummer, who had a construction company in Hong Kong.

0:12:23 > 0:12:26- Ha!- What?

0:12:26 > 0:12:30Well, he had a construction company and his name was Plummer?

0:12:31 > 0:12:33- Forget about it.- Yeah, yeah.

0:12:33 > 0:12:38Anyway, he was imprisoned in '97, for conspiring to defraud

0:12:38 > 0:12:42the Chinese government, to the tune of several million quid.

0:12:42 > 0:12:44The money was never recovered

0:12:44 > 0:12:47and he died in Victoria Prison in '99.

0:12:47 > 0:12:50Well, we can scratch his name from the list of suspects.

0:12:50 > 0:12:52What suspects? We haven't even got a crime!

0:12:52 > 0:12:55There was the break-in, Jack, and a possible murder rap.

0:12:55 > 0:12:57The break-in was probably random.

0:12:57 > 0:13:01Douglas Anderson disturbs a burglar, a fight ensues, his heart gives out.

0:13:01 > 0:13:03- It's happened before. - I want to see Carter again.

0:13:03 > 0:13:06- What about?- I think there's something going on there.

0:13:06 > 0:13:09- The man's a fraud. - Not necessarily.- Spare me.

0:13:09 > 0:13:12- You two go and speak to Penny Anderson.- And ask her what?

0:13:12 > 0:13:16I want to know more about this fraud in Hong Kong, cos if several million

0:13:16 > 0:13:19quid disappeared, then maybe Douglas Anderson was involved somehow.

0:13:19 > 0:13:23- Maybe that's what the intruder was looking for.- Clutching at straws.

0:13:23 > 0:13:25You got something better to do, Jack?

0:13:33 > 0:13:36Coming out at both ends, it was.

0:13:36 > 0:13:39I spent three days in the toilet.

0:13:39 > 0:13:41I got quite good at Sudoku,

0:13:41 > 0:13:44but I never ate octopus again.

0:13:45 > 0:13:47I'm a bit worried about Sandra.

0:13:47 > 0:13:49What about her?

0:13:49 > 0:13:53This Sebastian Carter fellow, he's really got under her skin, you know.

0:13:53 > 0:13:57Don't be ridiculous, Brian. Sandra's not going to fall for all that nonsense.

0:13:57 > 0:13:59I wouldn't be so sure, Jack.

0:13:59 > 0:14:02Yesterday, when we were in his office, he alluded to something

0:14:02 > 0:14:05- he'd said to her when she went to see him with Vicky Anderson.- What?

0:14:05 > 0:14:10Something about her father and her brother, about her father being disappointed in her.

0:14:10 > 0:14:15I asked her about it after, but she wouldn't say a word.

0:14:15 > 0:14:18This brother business has really knocked her for six, you know.

0:14:18 > 0:14:20The CPS aren't prosecuting him.

0:14:20 > 0:14:22There's nothing more Sandra could do.

0:14:22 > 0:14:25They should both just get on with their lives, as if they'd never met.

0:14:26 > 0:14:29How could Carter know about any of this?

0:14:29 > 0:14:31He didn't know, Brian! That's what these people do.

0:14:31 > 0:14:34They identify a weakness, then take advantage.

0:14:34 > 0:14:37No wonder she was so keen on this case.

0:14:37 > 0:14:40So, she's got to prove he's a fraud?

0:14:40 > 0:14:41Well, what if she can't?

0:14:41 > 0:14:45If the four of us can't prove that this clown isn't getting

0:14:45 > 0:14:48his information from ghosts, we should all...

0:14:48 > 0:14:49Retire?

0:14:51 > 0:14:53You know what I mean.

0:15:05 > 0:15:09Excuse me. We're looking for Simon Beswick.

0:15:09 > 0:15:10Gweilo.

0:15:33 > 0:15:37Mr Beswick? I'm Brian Lane and this is Jack Halford.

0:15:37 > 0:15:42We're working with the Metropolitan Police's Unsolved Crime and Open Cases squad.

0:15:42 > 0:15:44Working "with", not for.

0:15:44 > 0:15:46We're consultants, if you like.

0:15:46 > 0:15:48And if I don't like?

0:15:48 > 0:15:50We have some questions about John Plummer.

0:15:50 > 0:15:53You shared a cell with him in Hong Kong.

0:15:53 > 0:15:56Bit of a rough old place, was it?

0:15:56 > 0:15:58Victoria Prison? Yeah.

0:15:58 > 0:16:01This didn't happen there, though.

0:16:01 > 0:16:03Liverpool. 1986.

0:16:03 > 0:16:07Don't drink a bottle of Scotch and then get behind the wheel of a car.

0:16:07 > 0:16:13I lost two fingers, a brand-new Mercedes and all I had to show for it was a criminal record.

0:16:13 > 0:16:17- Next question?- John Plummer was imprisoned for fraud.

0:16:17 > 0:16:21- Weren't we all?- Did he talk to you about what he'd done?

0:16:21 > 0:16:23I'm sure you know enough about prisons.

0:16:23 > 0:16:26No-one in there had done anything wrong.

0:16:26 > 0:16:29- Mr Beswick... - No, he didn't talk about it.

0:16:29 > 0:16:31Did he mention a man called Lau Cheung?

0:16:32 > 0:16:35- No.- Or Douglas Anderson?

0:16:35 > 0:16:38- No.- Did he talk about his daughter?

0:16:38 > 0:16:42- No.- Yes, he did. A man in a foreign prison.

0:16:42 > 0:16:47You were his cell-mate. Even if he didn't say what he'd done, he talked about his only daughter.

0:16:47 > 0:16:50She never came to see him, never even wrote him a letter.

0:16:50 > 0:16:58You dwell too long on the whys and wherefores of that situation in a place like that, you go mad.

0:16:58 > 0:17:01- He missed her. - Did he know where she was?

0:17:01 > 0:17:03She was staying with friends.

0:17:03 > 0:17:06He was looking forward to seeing her when he got out.

0:17:06 > 0:17:09But that never happened, did it?

0:17:09 > 0:17:13Where were you on the night of March 17th, 2009?

0:17:13 > 0:17:16I've absolutely no idea.

0:17:16 > 0:17:19- What about last night? - Why? What happened last night?

0:17:19 > 0:17:20Where were you, Mr Beswick?

0:17:20 > 0:17:23I was here. Upstairs.

0:17:23 > 0:17:26There's a bedsit up there, comes with the job.

0:17:26 > 0:17:30Doing accounts for a grocery shop's a comedown from investment banking, isn't it?

0:17:30 > 0:17:35When you've been to prison for fraud, there's not many banks that'll take you on.

0:17:35 > 0:17:38I was in prison with the cousin of the guy who owns this place.

0:17:38 > 0:17:42- He put a word in for me. - So you were here last night?

0:17:42 > 0:17:45- I'm here every night. - What were you doing?

0:17:45 > 0:17:47- Drinking. - Do you do that every night, as well?

0:17:47 > 0:17:52- Yes, I do.- I'd have thought you'd have given that up, after...

0:17:52 > 0:17:54I gave up driving instead.

0:17:54 > 0:17:57Better for the planet.

0:17:57 > 0:18:01I'm sorry I don't know more about my father's business in Hong Kong.

0:18:01 > 0:18:07He was a private man and I was young, too young to have been interested, even if he had told me.

0:18:07 > 0:18:10Yeah, he wasn't a criminal.

0:18:10 > 0:18:12I don't know what anyone else has told you,

0:18:12 > 0:18:14but my father was a good man.

0:18:14 > 0:18:19Yeah, but as you say, neither of you know enough about his past to be certain of that.

0:18:20 > 0:18:22All we have left of him are memories.

0:18:22 > 0:18:27A broken window frame can be fixed and I can live with the damage to some of his possessions,

0:18:27 > 0:18:31but if this investigation is going to tarnish his memory, then I...

0:18:32 > 0:18:37OK, look, if the guy who killed your father was specifically targeting him...

0:18:37 > 0:18:38We're just looking for the truth.

0:18:38 > 0:18:42And if memory and the truth turn out to be two different things?

0:18:43 > 0:18:45I'd rather have the memory.

0:18:53 > 0:18:56I hope Brian and Jack had more luck than us.

0:18:56 > 0:18:58Sebastian Carter's involved in this somehow.

0:18:58 > 0:19:01It doesn't make sense. If he's trying to con her with all this

0:19:01 > 0:19:05psychic stuff, why risk it all by breaking into the house again?

0:19:05 > 0:19:06I know. It doesn't make sense.

0:19:07 > 0:19:12- Ah, Jack? Yeah, it's me. Nah, not very good, actually.- Excuse me?

0:19:14 > 0:19:18- Oi!- What? Grab the car!

0:19:18 > 0:19:19I'll call you back, mate!

0:19:37 > 0:19:38All right.

0:19:38 > 0:19:40Let's just calm down, OK?

0:19:40 > 0:19:42We need to talk to...

0:19:43 > 0:19:44Oi!

0:19:52 > 0:19:53Shit!

0:19:54 > 0:19:57It's OK. I don't think anything's broken.

0:19:57 > 0:19:59Not you, Gerry, the bloody car!

0:20:16 > 0:20:19We've managed to borrow these glasses from counter-terrorism.

0:20:19 > 0:20:23There's a hidden camera built into the frame.

0:20:26 > 0:20:29Right, make sure you get a good look at everyone in there? Hold them,

0:20:29 > 0:20:32as long as you can. When you see your man, shout out.

0:20:32 > 0:20:35Yuen will stay with him, so we can nab him when he comes out.

0:20:35 > 0:20:39- Aren't you going to send any men in? - No, we've got a few operations going on at the moment.

0:20:39 > 0:20:41We don't want to spook anyone.

0:20:41 > 0:20:46Besides, there might be one or two dog-lovers in there wouldn't be too pleased to see you.

0:20:47 > 0:20:49- Sorry.- Off you go.

0:21:04 > 0:21:07- Anything yet? - I'd have said, wouldn't I?

0:21:08 > 0:21:10Keep going.

0:21:18 > 0:21:19There's a table at the back, go back!

0:21:19 > 0:21:23- Which way? Left. Left! Back to your left.- Come on.- Get past him.

0:21:23 > 0:21:25That was him. I'm sure that was him.

0:21:25 > 0:21:27That's him! That's him!

0:21:27 > 0:21:30That's our man. Stay with him. Target is about to exit the building.

0:21:30 > 0:21:34- He was with someone. There's an exit at the back. Have you got someone at the back?- Go, go, go!

0:21:40 > 0:21:43Daniel Cheung, I'm arresting you on suspicion of burglary.

0:21:43 > 0:21:45- You don't have to say anything unless you want to.

0:21:45 > 0:21:48You were with someone in there. Who was it, where did they go?

0:21:48 > 0:21:51All right, get him in the van.

0:22:05 > 0:22:07Who were you meeting, Mr Cheung?

0:22:07 > 0:22:10THEY SPEAK CANTONESE

0:22:10 > 0:22:11I was alone.

0:22:14 > 0:22:16Two cups. Do you see?

0:22:16 > 0:22:21THEY SPEAK CANTONESE

0:22:21 > 0:22:24One of them was already there when I arrived.

0:22:24 > 0:22:27There's an awful lot of change on that bill.

0:22:27 > 0:22:29What sort of tea were you drinking?

0:22:29 > 0:22:33THEY SPEAK CANTONESE

0:22:33 > 0:22:35I'm a big tipper.

0:22:35 > 0:22:39You've already been charged with breaking and entering Vicky Anderson's house.

0:22:39 > 0:22:42Plus you assaulted my colleague.

0:22:42 > 0:22:49My point is you're in a lot of trouble, Mr Cheung, so telling us the truth now can only help you.

0:22:57 > 0:22:58I wasn't meeting anyone.

0:22:58 > 0:23:01Who are you afraid of?

0:23:04 > 0:23:05Not you.

0:23:06 > 0:23:09What were you looking for in Vicky Anderson's house?

0:23:13 > 0:23:18- Jewellery. Money.- Nothing to do with your father Lau Cheung,

0:23:18 > 0:23:23who's in prison because of a fraud he perpetrated with John Plummer in Hong Kong?

0:23:23 > 0:23:27And John Plummer is an associate of Douglas Anderson.

0:23:27 > 0:23:30The man whose house you broke into.

0:23:30 > 0:23:33Do you really expect us to believe that's some sort of coincidence?

0:23:35 > 0:23:37KNOCK ON DOOR

0:23:39 > 0:23:43For the benefit of the tape, Mr Halford and Mr Lane

0:23:43 > 0:23:46are now entering the room and have handed me a slip of paper,

0:23:46 > 0:23:52which we will label Exhibit JH-1.

0:23:52 > 0:23:57I'm showing Mr Cheung Exhibit JH-1. No need.

0:23:59 > 0:24:03That's a list of phone numbers that you've called from your mobile over the last few days.

0:24:03 > 0:24:08And that number there belongs to Sebastian Carter, and I don't think he speaks Chinese.

0:24:16 > 0:24:19THEY SPEAK CANTONESE

0:24:19 > 0:24:20Sorry to waste your time.

0:24:20 > 0:24:25At Mr Cheung's request, the interpreter has left the room.

0:24:30 > 0:24:33My father isn't in prison.

0:24:35 > 0:24:37He's dead.

0:24:37 > 0:24:43Douglas Anderson killed him, just as he killed John Plummer.

0:24:43 > 0:24:50He said he'd call in some favours, pull some strings to get them off, that they wouldn't go to prison.

0:24:50 > 0:24:53- And split the money three ways? - He didn't do anything for them.

0:24:53 > 0:24:57He didn't even show up in court!

0:24:57 > 0:25:00My family lost everything.

0:25:00 > 0:25:04My father went to Su Chou prison.

0:25:04 > 0:25:08Have you any idea what that prison is like?

0:25:08 > 0:25:12The Chinese government seized everything my father had

0:25:12 > 0:25:16and threw my mother and I onto the street.

0:25:16 > 0:25:19And Douglas Anderson kept all the money?

0:25:19 > 0:25:23- Who told you all this?- My mother.

0:25:23 > 0:25:25Is she still in Hong Kong?

0:25:26 > 0:25:30I grew up on the Peak,

0:25:30 > 0:25:33one of the best addresses in Hong Kong.

0:25:33 > 0:25:36We were a wealthy family, part of society.

0:25:36 > 0:25:41Now my mother lives in a tin shack in the slum down by the harbour,

0:25:41 > 0:25:44with the rats and cockroaches.

0:25:45 > 0:25:48This is what Douglas Anderson did to us.

0:25:48 > 0:25:51So you came over to find the money.

0:25:53 > 0:25:58No such luck, eh? What were you doing hanging around the next day?

0:25:58 > 0:26:01- Were you going to give it another go?- You called Sebastian Carter.

0:26:01 > 0:26:03Where does he come into all this?

0:26:03 > 0:26:06How do you know Sebastian Carter, Mr Cheung?

0:26:09 > 0:26:13Your father died in prison as a result of what Douglas Anderson did.

0:26:13 > 0:26:16You and your mother were thrown out onto the street.

0:26:16 > 0:26:20Well, a jury is going to understand the hardship you've been through.

0:26:20 > 0:26:25Now, if you've been manipulated, if you weren't acting alone,

0:26:25 > 0:26:28then that just makes you more sympathetic.

0:26:28 > 0:26:31Did Sebastian Carter put you up to this?

0:26:31 > 0:26:33Is that who you're afraid of?

0:26:35 > 0:26:38I'm not saying any more.

0:26:41 > 0:26:44Well, I reported my phone stolen a week ago.

0:26:44 > 0:26:48Whoever took it must have made these calls to your Mr Chen.

0:26:48 > 0:26:50- Cheung.- Cheung.

0:26:50 > 0:26:53Sorry, I'm hearing the name for the first time.

0:26:53 > 0:26:56MOBILE PHONE RINGS

0:27:01 > 0:27:05Any chance we could stop messing about now?

0:27:05 > 0:27:09You met with Daniel Cheung at a tea house in Chinatown earlier today.

0:27:09 > 0:27:10- No.- We've got video.

0:27:10 > 0:27:13Not of me, you haven't.

0:27:13 > 0:27:15I was here with a client. Ask my receptionist.

0:27:15 > 0:27:18- Then who was he meeting? - I don't know the man.

0:27:18 > 0:27:21Daniel Cheung broke into Vicky Anderson's house at your request.

0:27:21 > 0:27:24- He called you afterwards.- No!

0:27:24 > 0:27:26Now I think you should all just leave.

0:27:26 > 0:27:29Nothing more to say on this subject.

0:27:29 > 0:27:31Oh, yes, you do, Mr Carter.

0:27:31 > 0:27:37Not in so many words maybe, but we both know you're speaking volumes without saying anything.

0:27:37 > 0:27:40- Oh, no...- Now, you cut yourself shaving this morning, didn't you?

0:27:40 > 0:27:43You don't normally shave yourself, do you?

0:27:43 > 0:27:47You go to the barber's. And that's a fake tan, which needs topping-up.

0:27:47 > 0:27:53And when did you last have a manicure? Now, I notice those shoes have recently been re-soled.

0:27:53 > 0:27:57Nice shoes, but why didn't you just go and get another pair?

0:27:57 > 0:27:59- Are you on an economy drive? - I understand what you're doing.

0:27:59 > 0:28:01What time is it, Mr Carter?

0:28:01 > 0:28:04Oh, no watch!

0:28:04 > 0:28:05You normally wear one, don't you?

0:28:05 > 0:28:09Cos there's a tan line round your wrist. That's a dead giveaway.

0:28:09 > 0:28:13And I bet it was an expensive watch. How much did the pawnbroker give you for it?

0:28:13 > 0:28:17- This is ridiculous.- Is it? Isn't this how you make a living?

0:28:17 > 0:28:20- No, this is cheap theatrics. - Whereas you have a gift? - That's right.

0:28:20 > 0:28:22You saw Douglas Anderson's ghost.

0:28:22 > 0:28:26- I did.- And he told you he had unfinished business.- That's right. - And he was holding a key.

0:28:26 > 0:28:29- And he was talking about an unopened box.- Yes.- What was it like?

0:28:31 > 0:28:37Well, it was...wooden, with gold and black lacquer.

0:28:37 > 0:28:39You are a liar and a fraud.

0:28:39 > 0:28:42There was no unopened box at the Anderson house.

0:28:42 > 0:28:46Well, then I'm confused.

0:28:46 > 0:28:47I mean, I can't always be exactly...

0:28:47 > 0:28:49Please don't be confused, Mr Carter.

0:28:49 > 0:28:52There was no box because I made it up.

0:28:52 > 0:28:54I told Penny Anderson it was significant

0:28:54 > 0:28:59in the hope that that information would crop up again somewhere else.

0:28:59 > 0:29:00And lo and behold...

0:29:04 > 0:29:06It wasn't about the money.

0:29:06 > 0:29:11- Revenge, then? - My real father suffered an injustice.

0:29:11 > 0:29:13During the commission of a crime.

0:29:13 > 0:29:16Douglas Anderson left my father to die in prison.

0:29:16 > 0:29:19He also took you in and treated you as his own daughter.

0:29:19 > 0:29:23Whereas your real father's actions could have put you in an orphanage.

0:29:23 > 0:29:26How long have you known about Hong Kong?

0:29:26 > 0:29:28A couple of years.

0:29:28 > 0:29:32The company I work for, their head office is in Hong Kong.

0:29:32 > 0:29:35They had some dealings with my father's construction company years ago

0:29:35 > 0:29:41and I was asked to dig out the particulars of one of these deals from the computer archive.

0:29:41 > 0:29:44I found copies of memos my father had written.

0:29:45 > 0:29:48It was...

0:29:48 > 0:29:53It was like I could hear his voice again after all these years.

0:29:53 > 0:29:59I started digging and I followed a trail of newspaper articles and court reports

0:29:59 > 0:30:02until I had uncovered the truth.

0:30:02 > 0:30:06So then you broke into the house in Knightsbridge looking for clues

0:30:06 > 0:30:09as to where Douglas Anderson may have hidden the money.

0:30:09 > 0:30:12- That's right.- What happened?

0:30:12 > 0:30:17Douglas... Dad found me in the study.

0:30:24 > 0:30:27I confronted him about what had happened

0:30:27 > 0:30:29and what I'd found out.

0:30:33 > 0:30:36It must have been too much for him.

0:30:40 > 0:30:42He... His, um...

0:30:45 > 0:30:47He, his heart, it, um...

0:30:47 > 0:30:50It's all right. You can stop there.

0:30:53 > 0:30:54Are you OK?

0:30:56 > 0:30:59Right, let's start from the beginning, shall we?

0:30:59 > 0:31:03Preferably with a version of the story that's at least plausible this time.

0:31:05 > 0:31:09Douglas Anderson's involvement in this fraud was never proved, Penny.

0:31:09 > 0:31:13It didn't appear in the newspaper articles or the court records of the time.

0:31:13 > 0:31:17And his heart gave out as the result of a struggle with an intruder.

0:31:17 > 0:31:19During which he sustained several blows about the face and body

0:31:19 > 0:31:22which were not delivered by a person of your size and build.

0:31:22 > 0:31:27We know that Daniel Cheung was in Hong Kong at the time, so who broke into the house?

0:31:30 > 0:31:33We'll come back to that. What's your relationship with Cheung?

0:31:33 > 0:31:35I tracked him down in Hong Kong.

0:31:35 > 0:31:39His father suffered an even worse fate than mine did.

0:31:39 > 0:31:41Part of that money belonged to him.

0:31:41 > 0:31:43It belongs to the Chinese government.

0:31:43 > 0:31:49And when my colleague told you about the unopened box, you sent Daniel Cheung to burgle the house again.

0:31:49 > 0:31:52- Did you meet with him this morning? - Yes.

0:31:52 > 0:31:54- Where?- In a tea house.

0:31:54 > 0:31:56Tell us about Sebastian Carter.

0:31:56 > 0:32:01Vicky fell for all this psychic nonsense just after her mother died.

0:32:01 > 0:32:04I found Carter. He needed money.

0:32:04 > 0:32:11I thought if he could persuade her that her father was talking to him, she'd open up a dialogue with Carter

0:32:11 > 0:32:14and he'd be able to find the location of the money from her.

0:32:14 > 0:32:16- Assuming she knew it. - She knew.- I don't think she does.

0:32:16 > 0:32:18Your scheme would never have worked.

0:32:18 > 0:32:22Douglas Anderson wouldn't have taken that secret to his grave.

0:32:22 > 0:32:25Maybe not. But he didn't know he was going to his grave, did he?

0:32:25 > 0:32:29- Who broke into the house that night? - I don't know.- That's not true.

0:32:29 > 0:32:31My life has been a lie.

0:32:31 > 0:32:35Douglas Anderson cheated my father and left him to rot in a prison.

0:32:35 > 0:32:37That's not an answer to the question.

0:32:37 > 0:32:40- He must have told Vicky where the money was.- What if he didn't?

0:32:40 > 0:32:41She knew the truth.

0:32:41 > 0:32:44All this time, they were both laughing at me.

0:32:44 > 0:32:46- No.- At my father.- I don't think so.

0:32:46 > 0:32:52And if she didn't know, then she's lost her father and her sister has betrayed her,

0:32:52 > 0:32:54and she doesn't even know why.

0:32:56 > 0:32:59There's an awful lot of red ink in Carter's books.

0:32:59 > 0:33:04- That's fine.- I reckon he must have been counting on his share of the fraud money to bail him out.

0:33:04 > 0:33:06That's not who Penny's protecting.

0:33:06 > 0:33:09I wouldn't fancy him in a fight with Douglas Anderson, anyway.

0:33:09 > 0:33:12That's brilliant, thank you very much.

0:33:12 > 0:33:15So what's the opposite of an alibi?

0:33:15 > 0:33:18- I don't know.- No, neither do I, but I think I've just heard it.

0:33:18 > 0:33:23Penny Anderson reckons she was the one who met Daniel Cheung at the tea house, right?

0:33:23 > 0:33:26Well, that was her company and according to her assistant,

0:33:26 > 0:33:29she was at a marketing meeting in the boardroom till lunchtime.

0:33:29 > 0:33:32So who was Daniel Cheung meeting?

0:33:32 > 0:33:36Well, not Carter, and it wasn't Penny.

0:33:36 > 0:33:38- And we know it's not Simon Beswick. - Do we?

0:33:38 > 0:33:41Plummer was his cellmate. He could have told him about the fraud

0:33:41 > 0:33:45and that Anderson still had the money and Beswick fancied it for himself.

0:33:45 > 0:33:47But why would Penny be protecting Beswick?

0:33:47 > 0:33:49She's put a lot on the line.

0:33:49 > 0:33:51I don't see why she'd feel loyalty towards a man she doesn't know.

0:33:51 > 0:33:53No, it can't be Beswick.

0:33:53 > 0:33:58Both us and the original investigation ran the prints on the first burglary.

0:33:58 > 0:34:02Beswick has a criminal record. There would have been a match.

0:34:02 > 0:34:05- Unless they do know each other. - Who? Penny and Beswick?

0:34:05 > 0:34:09Sandra, what Jack says is right. The prints don't match.

0:34:09 > 0:34:12- It's not Beswick.- It's not Beswick. It never was Beswick.

0:34:12 > 0:34:16- What wasn't? - Of course the prints don't match. God, that's very clever.

0:34:16 > 0:34:20- What is?- There's only one person that Penny could be protecting and it's not Beswick.

0:34:20 > 0:34:22He's just calling himself Beswick.

0:34:22 > 0:34:25We've got him.

0:34:25 > 0:34:30He's not here and the bed-sit upstairs has been cleared out.

0:34:30 > 0:34:32Well, as neither of us speak Chinese,

0:34:32 > 0:34:35as far as we can work out, he's been gone for a couple of hours.

0:34:35 > 0:34:38If he knows the others have been arrested, he might think

0:34:38 > 0:34:41this is his last chance to force Vicky to tell him where the money is.

0:35:45 > 0:35:47John Plummer, you're under arrest.

0:35:52 > 0:35:54I want my money!

0:35:58 > 0:36:02- You're not as handy as the other bloke.- Come on, up you get.

0:36:04 > 0:36:09We knew Penny was protecting someone but we just couldn't work out who.

0:36:09 > 0:36:11You were the only person left in the mix, but why would Penny

0:36:11 > 0:36:13protect Simon Beswick, a man she didn't know?

0:36:13 > 0:36:16We'd already discounted Simon Beswick because

0:36:16 > 0:36:20his fingerprints didn't match those left at the scene of the burglary.

0:36:20 > 0:36:24Then we realised there might be another reason why the prints didn't match -

0:36:24 > 0:36:26you're not Beswick.

0:36:26 > 0:36:27What happened to him?

0:36:32 > 0:36:36He died in prison.

0:36:36 > 0:36:37Pneumonia.

0:36:37 > 0:36:43It was just about the time the British were leaving and the Chinese were taking over.

0:36:43 > 0:36:45One bureaucracy supplanting another.

0:36:47 > 0:36:49There was enough confusion that the right bribes

0:36:49 > 0:36:52in the right places allowed him to be buried as John Plummer.

0:36:52 > 0:36:56So you became Beswick, who was serving a much shorter sentence.

0:36:56 > 0:36:59You seem to know all the details. Do you need me to be here?

0:36:59 > 0:37:02I want to know about the fingers.

0:37:02 > 0:37:05- I bet you do.- Bit of a desperate measure, wasn't it?

0:37:05 > 0:37:11I don't imagine any of you ever saw the inside of Victoria Prison, did you?

0:37:11 > 0:37:13It was a hellhole.

0:37:13 > 0:37:15Bad enough when we were running it.

0:37:15 > 0:37:18It was only going to get a lot worse when the Chinese took over.

0:37:18 > 0:37:21And I was a gweilo,

0:37:21 > 0:37:26a foreigner who'd stolen millions of dollars from their own government.

0:37:26 > 0:37:29The only way I was getting out of that place was in a box.

0:37:30 > 0:37:33And Beswick's missing fingers were noted on his prison file.

0:37:33 > 0:37:35Exactly.

0:37:36 > 0:37:43I'd managed to squeeze Beswick's whole tedious life story out of him before he croaked.

0:37:43 > 0:37:45I knew everything about the man.

0:37:45 > 0:37:50But the fingers were a bit of a giveaway.

0:37:50 > 0:37:52How did you...?

0:37:52 > 0:37:55One of the machines in the prison laundry.

0:37:55 > 0:37:58And I used a steam-press to cauterise the wounds.

0:38:00 > 0:38:02Gory enough for you?

0:38:02 > 0:38:06Take us through the death of Douglas Anderson, Mr Plummer.

0:38:06 > 0:38:11- Yes, that didn't go quite according to plan. - Because he died?

0:38:11 > 0:38:14Because the bastard died before I could kill him.

0:38:14 > 0:38:16I broke in that night with two aims.

0:38:16 > 0:38:21Douglas was going to tell me where the money was and then I was going to kill him.

0:38:21 > 0:38:25But best laid plans and all that.

0:38:27 > 0:38:30When Douglas got back, he found me waiting for him.

0:38:30 > 0:38:32I think he was scared. He should have been.

0:38:32 > 0:38:37All that time in prison, this was all I'd thought about.

0:38:37 > 0:38:42I hit him a couple of times for my own gratification.

0:38:43 > 0:38:45I'd no idea he'd developed a heart problem.

0:38:47 > 0:38:50The coward started turning blue there and then,

0:38:50 > 0:38:53so the clock was ticking.

0:38:53 > 0:38:55And that's when he told you about the key?

0:38:55 > 0:38:57That's all I could get out of him.

0:38:57 > 0:39:00He kept saying, "The key, the key," over and over again.

0:39:00 > 0:39:04So I got his keys out,

0:39:04 > 0:39:06opened everything I could.

0:39:06 > 0:39:08Found nothing.

0:39:08 > 0:39:12Douglas seemed to find this funny,

0:39:12 > 0:39:17or maybe he was having some kind of seizure. Either way,

0:39:17 > 0:39:19I lost my temper and hit him again.

0:39:21 > 0:39:23And that's when he died.

0:39:23 > 0:39:26- No remorse?- He stole from me.

0:39:26 > 0:39:31Then you and Penny cooked up this scheme with Sebastian Carter.

0:39:31 > 0:39:33That was Penny's bright idea.

0:39:34 > 0:39:37I was all for doing a repeat performance with the girl,

0:39:37 > 0:39:43- but we couldn't be absolutely sure she knew where the money was. - She didn't.

0:39:43 > 0:39:46Apparently not.

0:39:46 > 0:39:48So all of this was for nothing.

0:39:48 > 0:39:50You win some, you lose some.

0:39:50 > 0:39:53What about your daughter, Penny?

0:39:53 > 0:39:58- What about her?- You went to prison, you left her on her own.

0:39:58 > 0:40:01I'm sure she had a nice life with the Andersons.

0:40:01 > 0:40:04Which you ripped apart by coming back and telling her what had happened.

0:40:04 > 0:40:06I told her the truth.

0:40:06 > 0:40:10And now she faces a prison sentence because she tried to help you.

0:40:10 > 0:40:12Her choice.

0:40:13 > 0:40:16- That's it?- Yeah.

0:40:16 > 0:40:17Your only child.

0:40:20 > 0:40:21I barely know the girl.

0:40:25 > 0:40:27Poor Penny.

0:40:27 > 0:40:31Given the circumstances, I imagine the courts will be quite lenient with her.

0:40:31 > 0:40:35- It's broken, though, isn't it? Everything.- Yes, it is.

0:40:35 > 0:40:38What are you going to do? Are you going to stay here?

0:40:38 > 0:40:39I put the house on the market this morning.

0:40:39 > 0:40:41- Ah.- The contents, everything.

0:40:41 > 0:40:45- I don't want it. - I'm sorry about your father.

0:40:45 > 0:40:51The man everyone's talking about isn't the man I knew, or the man I want to remember.

0:40:51 > 0:40:53Does that make sense?

0:40:53 > 0:40:55Yes.

0:40:55 > 0:40:58I'm going back to Australia, to Heron Island.

0:40:58 > 0:41:02All my best memories are there of him and my mother.

0:41:02 > 0:41:05All of us together. And Penny.

0:41:05 > 0:41:07I'd like her to join me, but...

0:41:07 > 0:41:08The noddy tern!

0:41:08 > 0:41:10Brian!

0:41:10 > 0:41:12The noddy tern!

0:41:12 > 0:41:16The key! It's not a key, it's a CAY!

0:41:16 > 0:41:17Heron Island.

0:41:17 > 0:41:20- Yes. - You say your family had a home there.

0:41:20 > 0:41:22That's right.

0:41:22 > 0:41:26Heron Island. It's on the Great Barrier Reef.

0:41:26 > 0:41:30It's famously composed of coral sand, rather than rock.

0:41:30 > 0:41:32So what do we call an island that's composed of coral sand?

0:41:32 > 0:41:35- A cay.- A cay.

0:41:35 > 0:41:36C-A-Y.

0:41:36 > 0:41:39Douglas Anderson was saying cay, not key!

0:41:39 > 0:41:41And that's where the money is.

0:41:41 > 0:41:43- On Heron Island?- There's a safe.

0:41:43 > 0:41:46Dad had it put in when we left Hong Kong.

0:41:46 > 0:41:48But it's not big enough to hold all that money.

0:41:48 > 0:41:50Not the money, maybe, but the paperwork.

0:41:50 > 0:41:53All the details of the bank account where the money's kept.

0:41:53 > 0:41:57- We should get the Aussie cops to search that house. - It's been there all this time?

0:41:57 > 0:42:00He never spent a penny of it, and he never told anyone.

0:42:00 > 0:42:03What was the point? Why did he do it?

0:42:03 > 0:42:05That's the one question we can't answer.

0:42:05 > 0:42:08Maybe my mother knows.

0:42:08 > 0:42:11There's a woman in Whitechapel my mother communicates with.

0:42:11 > 0:42:13I should speak to her before I go.

0:42:13 > 0:42:15I'll let you know if I find anything out.

0:42:23 > 0:42:25Well done, Brian.

0:42:25 > 0:42:27- Poor girl, though, eh? - Sins of the father.

0:42:27 > 0:42:29Or three fathers, in this case.

0:42:29 > 0:42:32Yeah, well, you can't choose your family, can...?

0:42:32 > 0:42:35- Sorry, Sandra.- It's all right.

0:42:35 > 0:42:37He was a fraud, Sandra. Sebastian Carter, I mean.

0:42:37 > 0:42:40- He didn't know anything. - He did, though, didn't he?

0:42:40 > 0:42:43It doesn't really matter that he wasn't communing with the dead.

0:42:43 > 0:42:45He was right about what my dad would think.

0:42:45 > 0:42:49- The situation with your brother isn't easy.- No, it's not easy.

0:42:49 > 0:42:50It's not meant to be easy, Jack.

0:42:57 > 0:43:00- Whatever you think I've done now... - You haven't done anything.

0:43:02 > 0:43:08My father had an affair with your mother. Now, I don't like that,

0:43:08 > 0:43:11but then I don't suppose he was doing it to gain my approval.

0:43:13 > 0:43:17None of this is your fault is actually what I'm trying to say.

0:43:17 > 0:43:18I know that.

0:43:18 > 0:43:21Yeah.

0:43:21 > 0:43:26If you don't want to have anything to do with me, I understand.

0:43:26 > 0:43:29I'm not much of a family person.

0:43:29 > 0:43:31Was he a nice guy?

0:43:34 > 0:43:37I think so, yeah.

0:43:37 > 0:43:40Well, that's something, then.

0:43:40 > 0:43:43There's a pub at the end of your road.

0:43:43 > 0:43:45Yes.

0:43:45 > 0:43:48Can I buy you a drink?

0:43:50 > 0:43:53Yes, you can.

0:43:55 > 0:43:58Do you want to come in?

0:43:58 > 0:44:02I'm not sure how this is going to work out.

0:44:02 > 0:44:04Me, neither. That's OK, isn't it?

0:44:06 > 0:44:09I think it'll have to be.

0:44:09 > 0:44:12# It's all right It's OK

0:44:12 > 0:44:15# Doesn't really matter if you're old and grey

0:44:15 > 0:44:17# It's all right I say it's OK

0:44:17 > 0:44:20# Listen to what I say

0:44:20 > 0:44:23# It's all right, doing fine

0:44:23 > 0:44:26# Doesn't really matter if the sun don't shine

0:44:26 > 0:44:28# It's all right I say it's OK

0:44:28 > 0:44:31# We're gettin' to the end of the day. #

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