0:00:02 > 0:00:05- You bring me to the nicest places. - If this case is as open and shut
0:00:05 > 0:00:08as Strickland thinks it is, hopefully we won't be here too long.
0:00:08 > 0:00:12So this bloke Davies wants to make a confession 25 years after the event.
0:00:12 > 0:00:15Have we spoken to his mental health officer?
0:00:15 > 0:00:18He does have a link to the missing boy. He was a friend of the family.
0:00:18 > 0:00:21So what? His conscience got the better of him?
0:00:21 > 0:00:24Maybe he found religion when he was inside.
0:00:24 > 0:00:27- Yeah there's got to be another reason for all this.- What?
0:00:27 > 0:00:30- Oi, oi, paedo! Come out your house, man.- Oi, paedo!
0:00:30 > 0:00:33- What you hiding behind your door for? You nonce, man.- For a start,
0:00:33 > 0:00:35- the local wildlife seems... - Take this, man.
0:00:35 > 0:00:38Let's get out of here, man!
0:00:41 > 0:00:43Wait here.
0:00:46 > 0:00:49TYRES SCREECH
0:00:49 > 0:00:52- Are you Detective Superintendent Pullman?- She'll be here in a moment.
0:00:52 > 0:00:55She's just doing a bit of community policing.
0:01:10 > 0:01:11Shit, man.
0:01:13 > 0:01:15I've just had this jacket cleaned.
0:01:15 > 0:01:18I'm arresting you for assaulting a police officer.
0:01:18 > 0:01:21# It's all right It's OK
0:01:21 > 0:01:24# Doesn't really matter if you're old and grey
0:01:24 > 0:01:27# It's all right I say it's OK
0:01:27 > 0:01:29# Listen to what I say
0:01:29 > 0:01:32# It's all right, doing fine
0:01:32 > 0:01:35# Doesn't really matter if the sun don't shine
0:01:35 > 0:01:38# It's all right I say it's OK
0:01:38 > 0:01:40# We're gettin' to the end of the day. #
0:01:48 > 0:01:50Sandra?
0:01:50 > 0:01:53Take them to the interview room. I'll be down in a minute.
0:01:53 > 0:01:55Anything I should be aware of?
0:01:55 > 0:01:58We think they may be part of the reason why Davies
0:01:58 > 0:02:02- decided to confess.- How so?
0:02:02 > 0:02:05He's had to move four times since he was released from prison.
0:02:05 > 0:02:07So?
0:02:07 > 0:02:10That's four times in the last six months.
0:02:10 > 0:02:13Every time he settles in someone tips off the locals
0:02:13 > 0:02:16and the next thing he knows there's pitchforks and torches
0:02:16 > 0:02:18- as far as the eye can see.- Again. So?
0:02:18 > 0:02:21So maybe he feels safer in prison than he does back on the streets.
0:02:21 > 0:02:25I'm afraid my concern is for the safety of the streets, not of a convicted paedophile.
0:02:25 > 0:02:29Especially one who's confessing to the kidnap and murder of a five-year-old child.
0:02:29 > 0:02:35Yeah, and I feel the same way too, but I would like to get to the truth before I hand things over to the CPS.
0:02:35 > 0:02:38And that's what I want you to do, of course.
0:02:39 > 0:02:44For the tape, Mr Davies, can we remind you that you are entitled to legal representation,
0:02:44 > 0:02:46but you've decided to waive that right.
0:02:46 > 0:02:48- I just want to get on with this. OK? - Fine.
0:02:50 > 0:02:55I want to confess to the kidnap of Yasser Gorton-Blackledge in 1985.
0:02:55 > 0:02:57It was me, I took him.
0:02:57 > 0:03:01OK, but why are you confessing now, 25 years later?
0:03:01 > 0:03:04Because it's the right thing to do.
0:03:04 > 0:03:08I realised that when I was in prison.
0:03:08 > 0:03:10I realised I had to pay for what I'd done.
0:03:10 > 0:03:14- Then why didn't you confess when you were still inside?- I wish I had.
0:03:14 > 0:03:19Really? Because according to your file you applied for parole at the earliest opportunity.
0:03:19 > 0:03:24You were released because you'd shown willing in all the psychiatric treatment
0:03:24 > 0:03:27and rehabilitation opportunities you were offered.
0:03:27 > 0:03:32Mr Davies, you wrote a ten-page statement in support of your parole application.
0:03:32 > 0:03:37Listen, I don't belong on the streets.
0:03:37 > 0:03:40You need to put me away. Just put me back in prison.
0:03:40 > 0:03:42Surprisingly, it's not as simple as that.
0:03:42 > 0:03:45- We need to know whether you're telling us the truth.- I am.
0:03:45 > 0:03:49All right, let's start with what happened to Yasser.
0:03:49 > 0:03:54He was taken from his parents at a protest march and never seen again. Where is he?
0:03:54 > 0:03:57All right, where's his body?
0:03:57 > 0:04:02- It's gone.- Gone where? - You don't have to give us a map reference, just a general idea.
0:04:02 > 0:04:04- We'll find it.- No, you won't.
0:04:04 > 0:04:07- I dumped the body at sea.- Really?
0:04:07 > 0:04:09- Yeah.- And how did you do that? Did you hire a boat?
0:04:09 > 0:04:12How did you get him from London to the coast? Did you have a car?
0:04:12 > 0:04:15Provide us with some details. How long did you have him?
0:04:15 > 0:04:21- Could anybody have seen the two of you together?- Look, I've confessed.
0:04:21 > 0:04:23Isn't that enough for you?
0:04:23 > 0:04:27- Well, isn't it?- No! Because he didn't bloody do it, Gerry.
0:04:27 > 0:04:32- Yeah, but he did plenty of other stuff. You've seen his file.- I have, and this crime doesn't fit.
0:04:32 > 0:04:33She's right.
0:04:33 > 0:04:38Davies used his position as a teacher to groom adolescent lads, not little children,
0:04:38 > 0:04:40and he never kidnapped anyone.
0:04:40 > 0:04:42- He was cleverer than that.- Cleverer?
0:04:42 > 0:04:45OK, sly, mendacious.
0:04:45 > 0:04:50He was a different kind of predator, and he never used physical violence on his victims.
0:04:50 > 0:04:54That doesn't make me feel any more comfortable about him being back on the streets.
0:04:54 > 0:04:58He'd agree with you. He doesn't want to be out. That's why he confessed.
0:04:58 > 0:05:02He'd rather see out his days in a safe cell on D-Wing than live in fear in a council flat.
0:05:02 > 0:05:05- So what do we do? - Well, he's not going anywhere.
0:05:05 > 0:05:08Let's just read the files and take it from there.
0:05:08 > 0:05:11April 20th, 1985.
0:05:11 > 0:05:15There was a demo against Israel's treatment of the Palestinians.
0:05:15 > 0:05:20In attendance was the Islington branch of the Free Palestine Coalition,
0:05:20 > 0:05:26leading lights of which were husband and wife team Anne Gorton and Fred Blackledge.
0:05:26 > 0:05:30Accompanying them was their young son, Yasser.
0:05:30 > 0:05:32Named after...
0:05:32 > 0:05:33That's obvious, isn't it?
0:05:33 > 0:05:38Now, the last reported sighting of him was on the north side of Westminster Bridge.
0:05:38 > 0:05:43The marchers were crossing from south towards the Houses Of Parliament. This was at 2.00pm.
0:05:43 > 0:05:46Hold on, hold on, the kid wasn't reported missing till 8.00pm.
0:05:46 > 0:05:50That's how long apparently it took before the parents realised he was missing.
0:05:50 > 0:05:54What? God, some parents don't deserve to have kids.
0:05:54 > 0:05:56Which is exactly what the press said.
0:05:56 > 0:06:01Yeah, well, they were very sympathetic at first, you know, playing up the victim angle.
0:06:01 > 0:06:04- Until this came to light. - Look at them.
0:06:04 > 0:06:08And then journalists started asking very awkward questions.
0:06:08 > 0:06:12And answering them. They said that Anne and Fred were dangerous left-wing activists,
0:06:12 > 0:06:16too obsessed with politics to care for their kid.
0:06:16 > 0:06:20They were particularly hard on Anne, saying she'd failed as a mother.
0:06:20 > 0:06:22Maybe she did?
0:06:22 > 0:06:25Yes, I had a call from DAC Strickland.
0:06:25 > 0:06:27He said that Davies had finally done the right thing.
0:06:27 > 0:06:29Finally?
0:06:29 > 0:06:32It was fairly obvious once we found out about his history.
0:06:32 > 0:06:34He lived locally, he'd been to meetings in our home.
0:06:34 > 0:06:39Yasser knew him and must have trusted him enough to go with him.
0:06:39 > 0:06:43- It all makes sense, doesn't it? - We'll still have to do a proper investigation.
0:06:43 > 0:06:46Wouldn't be a problem for you, would it?
0:06:46 > 0:06:50"Miscarriages of British Justice," "Rough Justice In Modern Britain."
0:06:50 > 0:06:52"Are We Living In A Police State?"
0:06:52 > 0:06:58I work for a civil liberties campaign group. That's where the real battle lies now.
0:06:58 > 0:07:01The day is coming where we won't be able to go anywhere, meet anyone,
0:07:01 > 0:07:05say anything without it being recorded and noted down by those in power.
0:07:05 > 0:07:09CCTV, internet monitoring, illegal phone taps.
0:07:09 > 0:07:12If you don't do anything wrong, there's nothing to worry about.
0:07:12 > 0:07:15Well, it depends who's deciding what's right or wrong, doesn't it?
0:07:15 > 0:07:18Still, if there had been CCTV on Westminster Bridge...
0:07:18 > 0:07:20Oh, I'm aware of the double-edged sword.
0:07:20 > 0:07:23If my son's disappearance had been properly investigated...
0:07:23 > 0:07:29- You don't think it was? - I think you let the press do your job for you the first time round.
0:07:29 > 0:07:31Well, there'll be no press involvement this time.
0:07:31 > 0:07:34But we will need you and your husband to cooperate.
0:07:34 > 0:07:36Ex-husband.
0:07:36 > 0:07:38Fred and I separated after...
0:07:39 > 0:07:41After Yasser.
0:07:41 > 0:07:43I'm sorry to hear that.
0:07:43 > 0:07:45We'd been on different paths for a long time.
0:07:45 > 0:07:49Emotionally and politically.
0:07:49 > 0:07:53In short, feminism is a fascist movement,
0:07:53 > 0:07:59hell bent on reducing men to the rank of second-class citizens.
0:07:59 > 0:08:01Just as the Jews were demonised by the Nazis,
0:08:01 > 0:08:06so the feminazis have waged a propaganda war against a whole gender.
0:08:06 > 0:08:10We are violent in the home according to the social workers.
0:08:10 > 0:08:14We are obsolete according to the scientists.
0:08:14 > 0:08:19How long before this fascism is pursued to its inevitable conclusion?
0:08:19 > 0:08:21Gender cleansing?
0:08:21 > 0:08:24We'll expand on this theme next week.
0:08:24 > 0:08:27Please do the reading. Thank you.
0:08:31 > 0:08:33That's quite a theory you've got there.
0:08:33 > 0:08:36Not theory, fact.
0:08:36 > 0:08:40- Can I help you?- My name's Halford, I called your office, I'm from UCOS.
0:08:40 > 0:08:41You're here about Yasser?
0:08:41 > 0:08:44I'd like to talk to you about the day he went missing.
0:08:44 > 0:08:47- And about John Davies? - Anything you can tell me.
0:08:47 > 0:08:50I can tell you the poor bastard was as much a victim as Yasser was.
0:08:50 > 0:08:53Oh, really? You don't think he did it?
0:08:53 > 0:08:56You heard what I had to say about the feminist propaganda machine.
0:08:56 > 0:09:00For the last century we've been told over and over that men are predators,
0:09:00 > 0:09:04just interested in violence and sex, and some men have chosen to believe this,
0:09:04 > 0:09:08to allow themselves to be debased by it. Davies was one of them.
0:09:08 > 0:09:15OK. Professor Blackledge, you were the last person to see Yasser alive.
0:09:15 > 0:09:18Yes, I didn't know that at the time.
0:09:18 > 0:09:22Yasser had been with us all day. He was riding on people's shoulders, banging his drum,
0:09:22 > 0:09:25shouting all the slogans.
0:09:25 > 0:09:30When we got to Westminster tube, Anne decided she wanted to go home. She had a headache.
0:09:30 > 0:09:32I thought she'd taken Yasser with her.
0:09:32 > 0:09:35Yasser was having such a good time,
0:09:35 > 0:09:37I didn't want to take him home and spoil it.
0:09:37 > 0:09:42- Did you say that to Fred? - I said, "Yasser will be OK?"
0:09:42 > 0:09:44And he nodded.
0:09:44 > 0:09:47But he thought I meant Yasser would be OK with me.
0:09:47 > 0:09:50I suppose it was an easy mistake to make.
0:09:50 > 0:09:54And then you just went home?
0:09:54 > 0:09:57I took a couple of aspirin,
0:09:57 > 0:10:00made some food for when they got back,
0:10:00 > 0:10:02and sat in the garden with a cup of tea.
0:10:05 > 0:10:07Then Fred came home.
0:10:07 > 0:10:08I thought she was joking at first.
0:10:08 > 0:10:12I thought he was upstairs in his bed, I even went up to check.
0:10:12 > 0:10:14But then...
0:10:14 > 0:10:17It felt like the bottom had fallen out of my world.
0:10:17 > 0:10:19So you called the police?
0:10:19 > 0:10:21That's when it got real.
0:10:21 > 0:10:26First few days we thought of him as just lost, that he'd turn up,
0:10:26 > 0:10:31one way or another, but then the police started talking about him as a missing child.
0:10:31 > 0:10:35Not lost, taken.
0:10:35 > 0:10:38The river police trawled up and down that part of the Thames.
0:10:38 > 0:10:40They handed out photos in the area.
0:10:40 > 0:10:42Nothing.
0:10:42 > 0:10:46Then they advised us to involve the press,
0:10:46 > 0:10:48get the word out.
0:10:48 > 0:10:50But of course, that backfired.
0:10:50 > 0:10:51The coverage was pretty damning.
0:10:51 > 0:10:54Not until Jamie Peters sold them that picture.
0:10:54 > 0:10:56Hold on, who was Jamie Peters?
0:10:56 > 0:10:59A comrade, or so we thought.
0:10:59 > 0:11:02He'd been part of the campaign for years.
0:11:02 > 0:11:05Totally dedicated to the cause.
0:11:05 > 0:11:09I'd like to know how much the press paid for that picture.
0:11:09 > 0:11:13And why didn't he sell them one of Yasser on Fred's shoulders, or holding my hand?
0:11:13 > 0:11:15I think you know the answer to that.
0:11:15 > 0:11:20The journalists spoke to our friends, our family, trying to find some dirt on us.
0:11:20 > 0:11:24And when they couldn't, they made it up.
0:11:24 > 0:11:28They crucified us day after day.
0:11:28 > 0:11:32How long after that were you and Fred divorced?
0:11:32 > 0:11:35About 18 months.
0:11:35 > 0:11:39We were so careful with each other at first,
0:11:39 > 0:11:41walking on eggshells.
0:11:41 > 0:11:45And then one night the dam broke and it all came out.
0:11:45 > 0:11:52I blamed him, he blamed me, we threw in a few other issues just to make it hurt that little bit more.
0:11:52 > 0:11:55And then it was over,
0:11:55 > 0:11:58- and he left. - 'I learnt a valuable lesson.'
0:11:58 > 0:12:02Men are always to blame. Just pick up a paper.
0:12:02 > 0:12:07We cause war, famine, economic meltdown, while women are blameless.
0:12:07 > 0:12:10Well, that's all we've been told, over and over again.
0:12:10 > 0:12:13- Well, there's probably a reason... - Take the global warming myth.
0:12:13 > 0:12:17They call it man-made climate change.
0:12:17 > 0:12:21Man-made. As if a woman never drove a car or took a flight.
0:12:21 > 0:12:23You see, this is what we're fighting against.
0:12:23 > 0:12:27It's a woman's world, and we just live in it.
0:12:28 > 0:12:32You do realise that, don't you?
0:12:32 > 0:12:34What a load of bollocks.
0:12:34 > 0:12:36I can't believe they let him teach.
0:12:36 > 0:12:37And write books.
0:12:37 > 0:12:43Loads of them about Soviet Russia, China, Fidel Castro.
0:12:43 > 0:12:49Then he goes all Middle Eastern and publishes a couple about Gaza and the Zionist conspiracy.
0:12:49 > 0:12:52Oooh, then it's all about those pesky feminists.
0:12:52 > 0:12:54How's this for a title?
0:12:54 > 0:12:56The Secret War On Modern Men.
0:12:56 > 0:12:58Sounds good.
0:12:58 > 0:13:01- Stick to your cook books, Gerry. - Yeah, you'd like that, wouldn't you?
0:13:01 > 0:13:04Me tied to a kitchen sink, seen and not heard.
0:13:04 > 0:13:08I'm not sure I buy all this misunderstanding on Westminster Bridge.
0:13:08 > 0:13:13Nah, one of them would have said goodbye, told him who was looking after him.
0:13:13 > 0:13:15I think one of them's lying.
0:13:15 > 0:13:19Or both of them. It's a very convenient way to provide each other with an alibi.
0:13:19 > 0:13:21You think they killed their son?
0:13:21 > 0:13:24Maybe not on purpose, but I don't think we should rule it out.
0:13:24 > 0:13:29Has anyone considered that little unsupervised Yasser might just have wandered away?
0:13:29 > 0:13:31I know they trawled the river, but that was six hours later.
0:13:31 > 0:13:35I've been thinking about that. I've been on a few demos in me time.
0:13:35 > 0:13:39- Have you?- Oh, yes, when Esther and I were courting.
0:13:39 > 0:13:43She was quite the ragged-trousered philanthropist in her day.
0:13:43 > 0:13:46Those demos were always heavily policed. Especially around Westminster.
0:13:46 > 0:13:48Tell me about it.
0:13:48 > 0:13:51You went on a demo? I can believe it of him.
0:13:51 > 0:13:54No, in uniform!
0:13:54 > 0:13:55Yeah, keeping the peace.
0:13:55 > 0:14:00Actually I spent the whole day being called a pig or a capitalist running dog. "Kill the police!"
0:14:00 > 0:14:02Yeah, they're all the same, that lot.
0:14:02 > 0:14:05Who do they run to when their bikes get nicked?
0:14:05 > 0:14:10Well, just to be sure, I looked up the Met's policing guidelines for demos at the time.
0:14:10 > 0:14:14There's a memo from the Chief Constable a week before suggesting that cover was doubled
0:14:14 > 0:14:17on Westminster Bridge and around Parliament.
0:14:17 > 0:14:19Not the best place to snatch a child.
0:14:19 > 0:14:22Maybe he did just wander off?
0:14:22 > 0:14:26In which case, I think we need to track down all the other people on that march with Fred and Anne
0:14:26 > 0:14:29and ask them what they remember seeing.
0:14:29 > 0:14:30There we are.
0:14:40 > 0:14:44- Well, what's the matter with it? - No, nothing, it looks lovely.
0:14:44 > 0:14:47It's just...
0:14:47 > 0:14:51- I remember a time when this was the last thing you'd want to be doing.- What?
0:14:51 > 0:14:55Getting the tea on the table in time for your husband coming home.
0:14:55 > 0:14:57What was it you and your gang used to call it?
0:14:57 > 0:14:59Domestic slavery.
0:14:59 > 0:15:01Well, that was a long time ago.
0:15:01 > 0:15:05You were going to defeat the forces of oppression, that was it.
0:15:05 > 0:15:06So what happened?
0:15:06 > 0:15:11What happens to most people. We got married, we had Mark, real life!
0:15:11 > 0:15:13Esther, you were going to lead a revolution!
0:15:13 > 0:15:17- No, I wasn't! - Well, you went to all the meetings.
0:15:17 > 0:15:20Yeah, along with some student teachers, an ageing social worker,
0:15:20 > 0:15:24and that woman who used to sell woolly hats at Camden Market.
0:15:24 > 0:15:28- That's who I was going to manning the barricades with.- Yeah, still...
0:15:28 > 0:15:31We'd all have been dead by teatime.
0:15:36 > 0:15:39- Morning, Ma'am.- Morning.
0:15:39 > 0:15:41- Mr Davies? Are you waiting for me? - Yes.
0:15:41 > 0:15:46- I was wondering if you were going to be arresting me today?- Probably not.
0:15:46 > 0:15:48Why not?
0:15:48 > 0:15:52What do I need to do to get you to believe me?
0:15:52 > 0:15:54Provide some evidence.
0:15:54 > 0:15:57Tell us where to find the body. Give us some details.
0:16:07 > 0:16:10Well, it's me own fault.
0:16:10 > 0:16:13I've domesticated her.
0:16:13 > 0:16:14Stolen her fire.
0:16:14 > 0:16:18Oh, I don't know. I think your Esther's still got plenty of that.
0:16:20 > 0:16:22- Hello, you, um, wanted to see me? - Gillian Withall?
0:16:22 > 0:16:26- That's right.- I'm Jack Halford, this is Brian Lane.- How do you do?
0:16:26 > 0:16:32- Hello.- Were you ever a member of the Islington branch of the Free Palestine campaign?
0:16:32 > 0:16:35Oh, God, in another life. Erm, 20-odd years ago.
0:16:35 > 0:16:39We'd like to talk to you about the disappearance of Yasser Gorton-Blackledge.
0:16:39 > 0:16:44- Right. You better come through. - Thank you.
0:16:44 > 0:16:48I met Fred at North London University.
0:16:48 > 0:16:53- You were a student?- No, no, no, I was a nurse at the university health centre dishing out pills -
0:16:53 > 0:16:55pregnancy tests and penicillin.
0:16:55 > 0:17:00It was the summer of '84 and the students had occupied the building as a protest.
0:17:00 > 0:17:02Protest about what?
0:17:02 > 0:17:07They were going to occupy the building until Israel stopped occupying Palestine.
0:17:07 > 0:17:09Well, that worked(!)
0:17:09 > 0:17:13I was there as a first aider. I had no interest in politics at all.
0:17:13 > 0:17:15And then I got talking to Fred.
0:17:15 > 0:17:18Next thing I know I'm going to meetings and demos and...
0:17:18 > 0:17:21- Looking back on it, I think it was all a bit of a distraction.- From what?
0:17:21 > 0:17:23I'd just been through a divorce.
0:17:23 > 0:17:28- It was nice to have some new friends.- You remember Yasser, do you?- Of course.
0:17:28 > 0:17:31- Poor little thing.- How so?
0:17:31 > 0:17:32Well...
0:17:32 > 0:17:35It didn't surprise me that he wandered off.
0:17:35 > 0:17:38He never had any boundaries.
0:17:38 > 0:17:42The house was always full of strangers for meetings and demos.
0:17:42 > 0:17:44He went to all the rallies and protests.
0:17:44 > 0:17:49I mean, maybe it was just a matter of time before something happened.
0:17:49 > 0:17:52So, you would agree with what the press said about Anne and Fred?
0:17:52 > 0:17:55- They were negligent parents? - I wouldn't go as far as that.
0:17:55 > 0:17:58- How far would you go?- I just think
0:17:58 > 0:18:03they didn't realise how lucky they were to have Yasser until it was too late.
0:18:03 > 0:18:06What about John Davies?
0:18:06 > 0:18:09Do you think he showed any inappropriate attention to Yasser?
0:18:09 > 0:18:11No, no, not as far as I remember.
0:18:11 > 0:18:14To be honest, he was only ever at a couple of the meetings,
0:18:14 > 0:18:17- and then I think he came out of politeness.- What do you mean?
0:18:17 > 0:18:20Well, he was a teacher at the local school.
0:18:20 > 0:18:22- Was he? - It doesn't bear thinking about.
0:18:22 > 0:18:27Anne was on the board of governors, I think she nagged him into coming to a couple of the meetings.
0:18:27 > 0:18:30The thing about Fred and Anne is they always assumed
0:18:30 > 0:18:33that everyone was as committed to the cause as they were.
0:18:33 > 0:18:35They didn't realise that some people would just
0:18:35 > 0:18:39pick up a leaflet or sign a petition just to get them off their backs.
0:18:39 > 0:18:43- And on this the demo, was Davies there?- Not as far as I remember, no.
0:18:43 > 0:18:47After Yasser went missing, how did Anne and Fred seem?
0:18:47 > 0:18:50I have no idea. The demo was the last time I saw any of the group.
0:18:50 > 0:18:53It was sort of like my leaving party.
0:18:53 > 0:18:57- Big party. Where were you going? - Sudan.
0:18:57 > 0:19:00I'd volunteered to work as a nurse in the refugee camps.
0:19:00 > 0:19:02- Wow, that was brave.- Very admirable.
0:19:02 > 0:19:06I would never have dreamt of doing it if it hadn't been for Fred and Anne.
0:19:06 > 0:19:09They certainly broadened my horizons.
0:19:09 > 0:19:11How long were you there?
0:19:11 > 0:19:17Two hard, dirty, traumatic, amazing years.
0:19:17 > 0:19:20It was the best and worst thing I've ever done. I still miss it.
0:19:20 > 0:19:22Why did you come back?
0:19:22 > 0:19:25I wanted my son to have a British education.
0:19:25 > 0:19:27Oh, you have a son?
0:19:27 > 0:19:29Was he a friend of Yasser's?
0:19:29 > 0:19:33- Did Davies ever talk to him? - No, no, no, I didn't have him then.
0:19:33 > 0:19:37So you were pregnant while you were working in the refugee camps?
0:19:37 > 0:19:40That must have been hard. I'm surprised you weren't just sent home.
0:19:40 > 0:19:44No, you don't understand. I adopted Will while I was out there.
0:19:46 > 0:19:50- Quite a souvenir to bring back, eh? - Better than a stick of rock.
0:19:50 > 0:19:55I'm hoping he might have other pictures from that day. Crowd shots maybe.
0:19:55 > 0:19:58Featuring your local neighbourhood nonce, John Davies!
0:19:58 > 0:20:01Well, that would be extremely helpful, but I won't hold my breath.
0:20:01 > 0:20:05No, I'm more interested in seeing whether that shot was taken out of context
0:20:05 > 0:20:08or whether they really were being negligent.
0:20:08 > 0:20:10Yeah, that's the one there. At least I hope it is.
0:20:10 > 0:20:14He was living here in '85 and I've got no record of him moving.
0:20:14 > 0:20:16You know how I love a long shot.
0:20:25 > 0:20:29Hello, Detective Superintendent Pullman. Does Jamie Peters live here?
0:20:29 > 0:20:32Er, he does, but he's away with work at the moment. Can I get him to call you?
0:20:32 > 0:20:36- Yeah, thanks, I'll give you my card. - Will he know what it's about?
0:20:36 > 0:20:39Yeah, it's about Yasser Gorton-Blackledge,
0:20:39 > 0:20:41who went missing in 1985.
0:20:41 > 0:20:43Oh, OK. He'll be in touch.
0:20:43 > 0:20:45Cheers. Bye-bye.
0:20:45 > 0:20:46- Thank you.- Bye.
0:20:46 > 0:20:50Long shot paid off.
0:20:50 > 0:20:55We spoke to several members of the group and they all said pretty much the same thing.
0:20:55 > 0:20:56- Thank you.- They weren't bad parents.
0:20:56 > 0:20:58Just a bit distracted?
0:20:58 > 0:21:00Yeah, we got the same story.
0:21:00 > 0:21:02And as for Yasser,
0:21:02 > 0:21:05he was just happy to go along for the ride.
0:21:05 > 0:21:07- Very self-reliant. - Maybe he had to be.
0:21:07 > 0:21:09Gillian Withall described him as lonely.
0:21:09 > 0:21:12- And?- Well, lonely boys are easy prey for predators.
0:21:12 > 0:21:14A few kind words, a bag of sweets...
0:21:14 > 0:21:18But hardly any of them even remembered Davies.
0:21:18 > 0:21:22And those that did don't remember him being interested in Yasser.
0:21:22 > 0:21:25Of course they wouldn't notice. I mean, what did you call him? Mendacious?
0:21:25 > 0:21:29These blokes are smart. They know how to keep under the radar.
0:21:29 > 0:21:33- I mean, how long was he a teacher before anyone knew what was going on?- Best part of ten years.
0:21:33 > 0:21:39Yeah, and that's why we've got this surveillance culture that Anne Gorton campaigns against.
0:21:39 > 0:21:42Some people need to be under surveillance.
0:21:52 > 0:21:56- What now?- He says he's got some new information for us.
0:21:56 > 0:21:57Go on.
0:21:57 > 0:22:01Yasser had a toy car with him when I took him. A little red one.
0:22:01 > 0:22:03And where is it now?
0:22:03 > 0:22:04I don't know.
0:22:04 > 0:22:05You don't have it?
0:22:05 > 0:22:07No. It must be with the body.
0:22:07 > 0:22:10- Which is at sea! - Ask Anne Gorton about it.
0:22:10 > 0:22:12Ask her. She'll tell you.
0:22:12 > 0:22:14I'll be at home when you're ready to arrest me.
0:22:20 > 0:22:22Sandra?
0:22:22 > 0:22:24Are you here to talk about John Davies?
0:22:24 > 0:22:30Actually, I'm here to ask why you were knocking on the door of an MI5 safe house this morning.
0:22:30 > 0:22:31I wasn't aware I was.
0:22:31 > 0:22:34You asked for a Jamie Peters?
0:22:34 > 0:22:36That's an active alias for one of their agents.
0:22:36 > 0:22:38Oh, is it now?
0:22:42 > 0:22:46MI5. Who would have thought?
0:22:46 > 0:22:48Mind you, I've always fancied a look inside.
0:22:48 > 0:22:53Yeah, it would make a nice change to interfere in one of their cases instead of the other way round.
0:22:53 > 0:22:56I expect there'll be some serious security though.
0:22:56 > 0:23:00Retina scans, full-body metal detectors.
0:23:00 > 0:23:02Come on, let's get on with it.
0:23:06 > 0:23:09There you go.
0:23:13 > 0:23:16- Thank you.- Is that it?
0:23:16 > 0:23:19Yes. Richard will take you down.
0:23:19 > 0:23:22- This way, gentlemen. - After you, Miss Moneypenny.
0:23:22 > 0:23:26You see, that's a mistake a lot of people make.
0:23:26 > 0:23:28- What?- James Bond was actually MI6.
0:23:28 > 0:23:30MI6 are the spies.
0:23:30 > 0:23:33MI5 are the spy catchers.
0:23:33 > 0:23:36We've given you temporary low-level clearance.
0:23:36 > 0:23:40So, I am able to tell you that Jamie Peters was an operative in the '80s
0:23:40 > 0:23:45tasked with intelligence gathering within fringe political organisations.
0:23:45 > 0:23:50Anne Gorton, Fred Blackledge and the Free Palestinian group were placed under surveillance
0:23:50 > 0:23:56- because we believed at the time that they had links to other less benign groups in the Middle East.- Did they?
0:23:56 > 0:23:59Probably not. They did have an unusual amount
0:23:59 > 0:24:05of contact with foreign nationals, but they were usually just overseas students they'd taken in as lodgers.
0:24:05 > 0:24:08Fred Blackledge did visit a few hot spots.
0:24:08 > 0:24:11China, Cuba, East Germany, the Soviet Union.
0:24:11 > 0:24:13Yeah, well, he was writing books about those places.
0:24:13 > 0:24:16And what happened to our man in Islington?
0:24:16 > 0:24:20Jamie was reassigned after the boy disappeared
0:24:20 > 0:24:24to avoid his becoming embroiled in the Metropolitan Police's investigation.
0:24:24 > 0:24:28To explain the sudden withdrawal from the Gorton-Blackledge social circle
0:24:28 > 0:24:30we released some photos to the press in Jamie's name.
0:24:30 > 0:24:34And made it look like he'd sold them down the river and couldn't face them.
0:24:36 > 0:24:38Dirty trick.
0:24:38 > 0:24:40Unfortunate operational necessity.
0:24:43 > 0:24:47So, these are the surveillance files and Jamie's notes. Take as long you like.
0:24:47 > 0:24:50- Nice piles, neat piles. - Anything else?
0:24:50 > 0:24:54Yeah, you couldn't point us in the direction of the nearest tea machine could you?
0:24:54 > 0:24:58Afraid not. Classified.
0:25:03 > 0:25:06Thank you. Did Yasser have a favourite toy?
0:25:06 > 0:25:09Yes, a little red car.
0:25:09 > 0:25:12His grandad gave it to him. He loved it.
0:25:12 > 0:25:15- Who else know about it?- No-one.
0:25:15 > 0:25:18Do you still have it?
0:25:18 > 0:25:20No.
0:25:20 > 0:25:24No, he must have sneaked it into his pocket before we left for the march.
0:25:24 > 0:25:27It was a couple of weeks before I realised.
0:25:27 > 0:25:31I wasn't able to go into his room at first.
0:25:31 > 0:25:35I didn't want anyone to disturb it, in case...
0:25:36 > 0:25:42- I just wanted everything to be as he'd left it when he came home. - Of course you did.
0:25:42 > 0:25:45When I did finally go in,
0:25:45 > 0:25:47I realised that it wasn't there.
0:25:47 > 0:25:50Did anyone else know it was missing?
0:25:50 > 0:25:54No. Just me and Fred.
0:25:55 > 0:25:58- Aren't Laurel and Hardy back yet?- No.
0:25:58 > 0:26:02- Tell them to stop wasting their time. I'm bringing Davies in.- Sandra!
0:26:02 > 0:26:04No-one else knew about the car.
0:26:04 > 0:26:08He didn't do it. I pulled his education department record.
0:26:08 > 0:26:12On the day of the march he was in a school disciplinary meeting
0:26:12 > 0:26:15accused of inappropriate behaviour towards a pupil.
0:26:15 > 0:26:16A boy of 15.
0:26:16 > 0:26:18And he talked his way out of it?
0:26:18 > 0:26:22He claimed the boy made the accusation because he'd put him in detention.
0:26:22 > 0:26:27The headmaster gave him the benefit of the doubt, but I don't think he was too comfortable about it,
0:26:27 > 0:26:28cos Davies was persuaded to move on.
0:26:28 > 0:26:30To another school? Great(!)
0:26:30 > 0:26:33That's why Anne and Fred didn't see him again.
0:26:33 > 0:26:36No, our first instincts were right. He had nothing to do with it.
0:26:36 > 0:26:38But why make a false confession?
0:26:38 > 0:26:41And how the hell did he know about this little red car?
0:26:41 > 0:26:45Well, he knew about it today, but his memory wasn't so sharp yesterday.
0:26:45 > 0:26:49Yes, so where's he getting his information from?
0:26:49 > 0:26:50Come on.
0:27:09 > 0:27:11You should have arrested me.
0:27:11 > 0:27:14No, I shouldn't. We know you didn't do it.
0:27:14 > 0:27:16We know you were at a school meeting on the day of the demo.
0:27:16 > 0:27:20However, I am thinking of charging you with wasting police time.
0:27:20 > 0:27:22Anything to say?
0:27:22 > 0:27:24Look, if you just wanted to be relocated...
0:27:24 > 0:27:28What would be the bloody point of that? He'd just find me.
0:27:28 > 0:27:31- Who would?- Anthony Vernon.
0:27:31 > 0:27:33And who's he?
0:27:33 > 0:27:36I don't know! Just some nutter.
0:27:36 > 0:27:39I don't know how he knows who I am, but he does.
0:27:39 > 0:27:41And wherever they put me, he's there.
0:27:41 > 0:27:46He talks to the neighbours, tells them who... What I am.
0:27:46 > 0:27:51So, you thought you'd confess to Yasser's murder and get put out of harm's way?
0:27:51 > 0:27:53No, that was his idea.
0:27:53 > 0:27:55Anthony Vernon told you to confess?
0:27:55 > 0:27:58I confronted him,
0:27:58 > 0:28:02I asked him why he was doing this to me.
0:28:02 > 0:28:06He said he knew that I'd taken Yasser.
0:28:06 > 0:28:10I told him it was nothing to do with me, he was having none of it,
0:28:10 > 0:28:14threatened to make the rest of my life a misery if I didn't hand myself in.
0:28:16 > 0:28:20After six months of him I just wanted to be somewhere safe.
0:28:22 > 0:28:26I thought you'd jump at the chance to put away a pervert.
0:28:27 > 0:28:32He went mad when I told him you weren't interested in me.
0:28:32 > 0:28:36That's when he told me to come back and tell you about the toy car.
0:28:36 > 0:28:38He fed you that information?
0:28:38 > 0:28:41Yeah. And when that didn't work...
0:28:43 > 0:28:46I assume this young lady is here to take your statement.
0:28:46 > 0:28:48- Yes I am, Sir.- We'll be in touch.
0:28:52 > 0:28:55Cor, blimey, I thought being a spy would be exciting.
0:28:55 > 0:28:59Can you imagine, five years of going to boring meetings pretending to be interested?
0:28:59 > 0:29:01Making a note of everyone who turns up.
0:29:01 > 0:29:04He even goes about who brought the biscuits in this one.
0:29:04 > 0:29:09Yeah, I don't remember that bit about custard creams in Goldfinger, do you?
0:29:09 > 0:29:12I mean, most of this is just gossip.
0:29:12 > 0:29:15There's quite a bit about Fred and Anne's marriage.
0:29:15 > 0:29:18- Well, she was knocking off the lodgers, weren't she?- What?
0:29:18 > 0:29:23Yeah, here, in this one, there.
0:29:23 > 0:29:26Mind you, it is 1981. So it's hardly relevant.
0:29:26 > 0:29:30It's got to be more interesting than another discussion about Zionism.
0:29:30 > 0:29:33Oh, I see!
0:29:33 > 0:29:40So while poor old Fred was freezing his Baltics off in Moscow, she found another way of keeping warm.
0:29:40 > 0:29:44- Gives a whole new meaning to bed and breakfast.- Doesn't it, though?- What?
0:29:44 > 0:29:51Well, I was just thinking, it wasn't just Davies who had the chance to get to know Yasser, gain his trust.
0:29:51 > 0:29:56- What, the lodgers, you mean? - Well, it's the most interesting thing in these files,
0:29:56 > 0:30:01unless you consider the very nice Garibaldis they had on the 13th of November.
0:30:01 > 0:30:02I don't know.
0:30:02 > 0:30:05- I found a familiar name here.- Who's?
0:30:05 > 0:30:09- No, I don't think I should show you. - Why ever not?
0:30:09 > 0:30:14- According to what I've just read, you're a potential security risk. - What, there's stuff about me there?
0:30:14 > 0:30:16Brian, how well do you know Esther?
0:30:18 > 0:30:19I'm married to her, Gerry.
0:30:19 > 0:30:22It's called deep cover.
0:30:24 > 0:30:28Where? It's just more stuff about these meetings, innit?
0:30:28 > 0:30:30- GERRY LAUGHS - That's not amusing.
0:30:30 > 0:30:32Oh, I don't know.
0:30:32 > 0:30:38I wonder how Esther would feel about you being so quick to believe she's a double agent.
0:30:38 > 0:30:42Right, come on. Let's go and see this lusty landlady, eh?
0:30:42 > 0:30:48- Mr Vernon, I'm sure you're aware that perverting the course of justice is a serious offence.- Of course.
0:30:48 > 0:30:51Then perhaps you'd care to explain why you forced John Davies
0:30:51 > 0:30:54- into confessing to a crime he didn't commit.- I didn't.
0:30:54 > 0:30:56We have a statement of that effect from Mr Davies.
0:30:56 > 0:31:00Oh, right. That's Davies the convicted paedophile?
0:31:00 > 0:31:02His previous convictions have no bearing on this case.
0:31:02 > 0:31:05Yeah, and I'm a sure a jury of my peers will agree.
0:31:05 > 0:31:08Everyone knows you can always trust a kiddie fiddler.
0:31:08 > 0:31:11What about doctors? How do you think they go down with a jury?
0:31:11 > 0:31:16Because the facial injuries that Davies is recovering from tell their own story.
0:31:16 > 0:31:18I don't know what you're talking about.
0:31:18 > 0:31:21You see, what I don't understand is why this particular case?
0:31:21 > 0:31:25Why did you want him to confess to the killing of Yasser Gorton-Blackledge?
0:31:25 > 0:31:28As I've told you, I didn't. I've never even heard of...
0:31:28 > 0:31:30Do you have any links to the family, Mr Vernon?
0:31:30 > 0:31:35Cos you passed on some details that only somebody close to them would know. Care to explain why?
0:31:35 > 0:31:38- No.- Sure about that?- Yeah, positive.
0:31:38 > 0:31:40Chief Superintendent?
0:31:42 > 0:31:46- Davies has dropped the assault charge.- Why?
0:31:46 > 0:31:48It was an accident, he fell over his cat.
0:31:48 > 0:31:50Shit.
0:31:54 > 0:31:56You're free to go.
0:31:58 > 0:31:59Am I supposed to be surprised?
0:31:59 > 0:32:01Of course MI5 were watching us.
0:32:01 > 0:32:05It must have been a very dull assignment for Jamie. All we did was talk.
0:32:05 > 0:32:07They were very interested in your lodgers.
0:32:07 > 0:32:10You know, the foreign students you had staying with you.
0:32:10 > 0:32:12We were on a digs list at the university.
0:32:12 > 0:32:16For the most part they were nice boys who needed a bed and a friendly face.
0:32:16 > 0:32:19You were a little bit more than friendly.
0:32:19 > 0:32:22It was a complicated time in our marriage.
0:32:22 > 0:32:26- Fred was overseas a lot. I got lonely.- Yeah, I think we can understand that.
0:32:26 > 0:32:29I'm sorry, but I'm not sure what this has to do with my son.
0:32:29 > 0:32:33We didn't take in students after Yasser was born. We didn't have the room.
0:32:33 > 0:32:35- Did you keep in touch with any of them?- The odd postcard.
0:32:35 > 0:32:40One or two stayed in the UK after they'd finished their courses. They'd pop in.
0:32:40 > 0:32:45Thinking back, would you say that any of them may have posed a danger to your son?
0:32:45 > 0:32:47No. Why would you?
0:32:48 > 0:32:51Because they were foreign?
0:32:51 > 0:32:56- Dear God! Some things never change. - No, because they had access to your home.
0:32:56 > 0:32:59- They were almost part of the family. - You're barking up the wrong tree.
0:32:59 > 0:33:02There's absolutely no need for you to start disrupting their lives.
0:33:02 > 0:33:04It's just a line of enquiry.
0:33:04 > 0:33:06Well, it's offensive.
0:33:06 > 0:33:08And I'd like you to leave.
0:33:08 > 0:33:10Typical bloody lefty to play the race card.
0:33:10 > 0:33:14I don't care if her lodgers are foreigners. I don't care if they're extraterrestrials.
0:33:14 > 0:33:18- And I don't think that's what it was all about.- She was covering?
0:33:18 > 0:33:22Well, she seemed very uncomfortable about us contacting any of them.
0:33:22 > 0:33:28- Why? Because of the affairs? - No! once she and Fred got divorced that's water under the bridge.
0:33:28 > 0:33:32Yeah, but at the time, maybe it all boiled over?
0:33:32 > 0:33:35- So you think things got violent? - I don't know.
0:33:35 > 0:33:37Fred does have strong opinions about domestic violence.
0:33:37 > 0:33:42I just think it's another thing to add to their list of distractions.
0:33:42 > 0:33:46- Politics, a broken marriage... - It's like Jack said from the off.
0:33:46 > 0:33:50I mean, this story gives a very convenient alibi for the both of them.
0:33:50 > 0:33:54Go back to Gillian Withall, she seems to have known them the longest and the best.
0:33:54 > 0:33:59Would anyone be surprised to hear that Anthony Vernon has got a history of violence?
0:33:59 > 0:34:02- Not really. Go on.- His ex-wife has a restraining order against him.
0:34:02 > 0:34:05He's not allowed within 20 feet of her, or the children.
0:34:05 > 0:34:07The kids as well? That's unusual.
0:34:07 > 0:34:11- Do you think she'll speak to us? - We can but try. But why should we?
0:34:11 > 0:34:13Well, I've got nowhere with the man himself.
0:34:13 > 0:34:16I want to know why he wanted Davies to confess to this case specifically.
0:34:20 > 0:34:24Karen Vernon? Detective Superintendent Pullman, this is Jack Halford.
0:34:24 > 0:34:26- Come in.- Thank you.
0:34:28 > 0:34:29Thank you.
0:34:29 > 0:34:33- It's not the first time I've spoken to the police about Tony.- I'm sorry.
0:34:33 > 0:34:35It's OK. He can't touch me now.
0:34:35 > 0:34:38Not physically, or in any other way.
0:34:38 > 0:34:42- I'm glad to hear it. - It's when he threatened the boys.
0:34:42 > 0:34:45It was like he switched something off in me.
0:34:45 > 0:34:49He said if I ever left him, he'd kill me and make the kids watch.
0:34:49 > 0:34:54It took me three months to save up enough money and then find a place to run to.
0:34:54 > 0:34:56We haven't seen him since.
0:34:56 > 0:35:00He's tried. He dragged me through the law courts, but it's his temper.
0:35:00 > 0:35:04- Punched his solicitor the last time.- Not a smart move.
0:35:04 > 0:35:06The thing is, he's not stupid.
0:35:06 > 0:35:11He used to be a journalist. But he kept losing it with the editors, so he never made it to the nationals.
0:35:11 > 0:35:14So he worked for a local paper. Which one?
0:35:14 > 0:35:17- Oh, different ones.- In 1985?
0:35:18 > 0:35:21Islington Gazette I think.
0:35:21 > 0:35:24He only lasted about a year on that one.
0:35:24 > 0:35:28Did he ever work on a story about a little boy who was abducted?
0:35:29 > 0:35:33- Yasser Gorton-Blackledge?- Yeah.
0:35:33 > 0:35:35Is that what this is about?
0:35:35 > 0:35:38He was obsessed with that story.
0:35:38 > 0:35:43He was the first on the scene. He had a contact at the police station that tipped him off.
0:35:43 > 0:35:46He door-stepped the parents and sold the story to the nationals.
0:35:46 > 0:35:49- He thought it was his big chance. - But it wasn't?
0:35:49 > 0:35:53No, they just paid him for the first report and then sent in their own hacks.
0:35:53 > 0:35:55He tried to follow up the story, though.
0:35:55 > 0:35:57He did an interview with the dad.
0:35:57 > 0:35:59Er, Fred?
0:35:59 > 0:36:00Yeah, when was this?
0:36:00 > 0:36:05- '95, it's the year we left. - Ten years later. - It was a sort of anniversary piece.
0:36:05 > 0:36:08He couldn't sell it, though. No-one was interested.
0:36:08 > 0:36:12- He must have been bitter about that. - Yeah.
0:36:12 > 0:36:15I had two black eyes and a broken rib to prove it.
0:36:21 > 0:36:22Oh, what have you got?
0:36:27 > 0:36:31Look at me there! Oh, this brings back some memories.
0:36:33 > 0:36:36Oh, there's Jane Longthorn.
0:36:36 > 0:36:39I wonder what happened to her.
0:36:39 > 0:36:40Who knows?
0:36:40 > 0:36:43Might be married, couple of children.
0:36:43 > 0:36:48- Probably.- Or she could be under deep cover in a former Soviet state.
0:36:48 > 0:36:52Depends what her next mission was and if she chose to accept it.
0:36:52 > 0:36:54What on earth are you talking about?
0:36:54 > 0:36:56Infiltration!
0:36:56 > 0:37:02You do realise that any of your so-called sisters could have been working for the security services?
0:37:02 > 0:37:05Reporting your every move back to the powers that be?
0:37:05 > 0:37:09Don't be so ridiculous. They wouldn't have been interested in me.
0:37:09 > 0:37:15That might be, but you remember, you dragged me along to a couple of those meetings, and some marches.
0:37:15 > 0:37:18- Me! A serving officer of the law. - Yeah.
0:37:18 > 0:37:22Well, they probably thought you were trying to turn me into a sleeper.
0:37:22 > 0:37:24A Manchurian candidate.
0:37:24 > 0:37:27Brian, have you taken your tablets today?
0:37:27 > 0:37:29They might still be listening!
0:37:29 > 0:37:31You're still an activist, aren't you?
0:37:31 > 0:37:33You went to a political meeting only last week.
0:37:33 > 0:37:36Yes, about the closing of the post office.
0:37:36 > 0:37:38- Even so.- I do remember!
0:37:38 > 0:37:43There was some talk of bringing down the government and stringing up a few Royals from the lampposts!
0:37:43 > 0:37:45This isn't a joke.
0:37:46 > 0:37:50No, I know. That's what worries me.
0:37:50 > 0:37:51I'm going to bed.
0:37:51 > 0:37:54Don't be long.
0:37:54 > 0:37:59- MONOTONE:- Yes, and I'm going to bed now myself and all.
0:38:03 > 0:38:09It's not just the potential invasion of my civil liberties, or my rights as a private citizen.
0:38:09 > 0:38:14I can't stop thinking about how being an enemy of the state might have held me back.
0:38:14 > 0:38:20What lists does my name appear on, and what opportunities have I missed as a result?
0:38:20 > 0:38:23I'm telling you, I could have been held back all this time.
0:38:23 > 0:38:25- Held back from what?- Promotion!
0:38:25 > 0:38:28I might have been Commissioner by now for all we know.
0:38:28 > 0:38:31I don't think it was the secret service that held you back.
0:38:31 > 0:38:36No, that was the misandry of the global gynarchy oppressing the male
0:38:36 > 0:38:39and allowing him to deny his natural position of authority.
0:38:39 > 0:38:41What the hell are you reading?
0:38:41 > 0:38:43One of Fred Blackledge's books.
0:38:43 > 0:38:47I mean it's well over the top in places, but there's a lot he says rings a bell with me.
0:38:47 > 0:38:52I mean, I've spent my whole life being told what to do by women.
0:38:52 > 0:38:58Yeah, wives, daughters, Detective Superintendent Sandra Pullman. Hold on, I'm reading that.
0:38:58 > 0:39:00Yeah, I know. That's the problem.
0:39:00 > 0:39:03Gerry, with me.
0:39:03 > 0:39:06I rest my case.
0:39:11 > 0:39:14Yes, I was aware of my wife's behaviour while I was away.
0:39:14 > 0:39:18I found out when I returned home a day early from a trip to Havana.
0:39:18 > 0:39:21She was in bed with her latest. It was quite the cliche.
0:39:21 > 0:39:25- Still upsetting.- At the time, yes, but now I understand.
0:39:25 > 0:39:28- Understand what?- The myth of the biological imperative.
0:39:28 > 0:39:30- Are you familiar?- Refresh my memory.
0:39:30 > 0:39:35We are told over and over that men are the promiscuous gender, that we are driven by sex.
0:39:35 > 0:39:38The fact is that both genders are driven by sex.
0:39:38 > 0:39:42The difference is that women cut off that drive when they
0:39:42 > 0:39:45have secured what it was they were looking for all along.
0:39:45 > 0:39:50- Which is?- A child. The truth is that women do not have sex for pleasure.
0:39:50 > 0:39:53- The truth?- Now I understand if you find that distressing
0:39:53 > 0:39:56but that's only because you are conditioned to believe that you enjoy sex.
0:39:56 > 0:39:59- Conditioned by who? - Capitalist forces. The market.
0:39:59 > 0:40:03The pharmaceutical companies that make you reliant on the pill.
0:40:03 > 0:40:06The cosmetic companies that say you have to be desirable.
0:40:06 > 0:40:10The Feminazi magazines who peddle the lies of Dr Grafenburg and his ilk.
0:40:10 > 0:40:12Doctor?
0:40:12 > 0:40:15Grafenburg. The inventor of the G-spot? And I do mean inventor.
0:40:15 > 0:40:17OK, let me see if I've got this right.
0:40:17 > 0:40:19When women don't enjoy themselves in bed,
0:40:19 > 0:40:22it's not the fault of the man. It's social conditioning?
0:40:22 > 0:40:25- Exactly! Well done. - So when your wife looked elsewhere
0:40:25 > 0:40:28because you weren't satisfying her, that wasn't your fault?
0:40:28 > 0:40:32- Maybe you haven't completely understood.- Maybe not.
0:40:32 > 0:40:37All I know is that once my wife had her child, she lost all interest in anything sexual.
0:40:37 > 0:40:39- She had no desire...- For you?
0:40:39 > 0:40:42For sexual pleasure.
0:40:42 > 0:40:45It simply wasn't on her list of priorities any more.
0:40:45 > 0:40:47- Guv'nor!- I see.- Guv'nor!- What?
0:40:53 > 0:40:56Oh, everyone knew about the affairs.
0:40:56 > 0:40:58Anne didn't do anything to hide them.
0:40:58 > 0:41:02It was her way of getting back at Fred for leaving her alone for weeks on end.
0:41:02 > 0:41:05So, they were just casual affairs?
0:41:05 > 0:41:10It was sort of like a holiday romance only Fred was the one having the holiday.
0:41:10 > 0:41:16She could get quite intense about her young men but then as soon as Fred came home...
0:41:16 > 0:41:18Were the young men as intense as she was?
0:41:18 > 0:41:20What do you think?
0:41:20 > 0:41:23There was one that went a bit puppy dog.
0:41:23 > 0:41:29Harry actually was pretty smitten and I did think she might do something stupid with him.
0:41:29 > 0:41:30Like leave Fred?
0:41:30 > 0:41:34Maybe. But then Fred came home and caught them at it.
0:41:34 > 0:41:35He went mad and threw Harry out.
0:41:35 > 0:41:39Which was obviously exactly what Anne wanted all along.
0:41:39 > 0:41:43- Really? - She might have been a feminist but she still wanted a caveman.
0:41:43 > 0:41:46She just wanted him to show her that he cared.
0:41:46 > 0:41:48After that it was all happy families.
0:41:48 > 0:41:51Especially when Yasser came along.
0:41:51 > 0:41:53She didn't know how lucky she was to have all that.
0:41:53 > 0:41:55Still, she didn't deserve to lose it.
0:41:55 > 0:41:58No, no, of course not.
0:41:58 > 0:42:00Mum, can you come and take some blood?
0:42:00 > 0:42:03- Sorry, I didn't realise you had visitors.- Oh, that's OK.
0:42:03 > 0:42:05We're just about to leave.
0:42:05 > 0:42:08- You must be Gillian's son? - That's right. Dr William Withall.
0:42:08 > 0:42:11But most people just call me Will.
0:42:13 > 0:42:16Quite a medical family, aren't you?
0:42:16 > 0:42:18Is your brother a doctor as well?
0:42:18 > 0:42:21I don't have a brother.
0:42:21 > 0:42:24My mistake, sorry. Shall we...
0:42:24 > 0:42:25Why not.
0:42:30 > 0:42:33Far be it from me to not be politically correct...
0:42:33 > 0:42:36I think I know what you're going to say, but go on.
0:42:36 > 0:42:41When you adopt from Africa don't they usually give you a black baby?
0:42:41 > 0:42:45So, what is it about Fred Blackledge that you find so damn fascinating?
0:42:45 > 0:42:48- You wouldn't understand. - Why, because I'm a woman?
0:42:48 > 0:42:51Yeah. Yeah that is exactly it. You've not been oppressed.
0:42:51 > 0:42:54You don't know what it's like to live in a world
0:42:54 > 0:42:57- of emasculation created by feminism! - No, I suppose not.- Fred has.
0:42:57 > 0:43:01He understands, you see, how the system is weighted against us now.
0:43:01 > 0:43:03How the pendulum has swung too far.
0:43:03 > 0:43:05He understands because he's experienced it.
0:43:05 > 0:43:08He has experienced the loss of a child...
0:43:08 > 0:43:12Yes, but the way you lost your children is very different.
0:43:12 > 0:43:14I told you. You don't understand.
0:43:14 > 0:43:17Apparently not. So, wasn't Davies part of the brotherhood?
0:43:18 > 0:43:22- You tried to pin a murder on him. - Because he did it.- No, Mr Vernon.
0:43:22 > 0:43:25- Yeah, Fred told me about his suspicions in '95. - The anniversary interview?
0:43:25 > 0:43:27The interview that changed my life.
0:43:27 > 0:43:31You see, he was just developing his theories, his philosophy back then.
0:43:31 > 0:43:33But what little he told me
0:43:33 > 0:43:37set me free from my guilt, from my torment.
0:43:37 > 0:43:42And ever since I've been... well, finding a way to repay the favour.
0:43:42 > 0:43:44Then I heard that Davies was out.
0:43:44 > 0:43:46- How did you hear?- I was a journalist. I have my contacts.
0:43:46 > 0:43:49You know that he only served half of his sentence?
0:43:49 > 0:43:51- He was a model prisoner. - He's a sick bastard.
0:43:51 > 0:43:54Maybe, but he's not a murderer.
0:43:54 > 0:43:58Looks like you'll have to find some other sacrifice for the master.
0:43:58 > 0:44:00This is...
0:44:01 > 0:44:03Oh, for God's sake!
0:44:03 > 0:44:05Have you read any of this crap?
0:44:05 > 0:44:08Well, you know me, Guv'nor, not a big reader.
0:44:08 > 0:44:10It's one thing to hear him spouting the rubbish,
0:44:10 > 0:44:12but to see it in black and white.
0:44:12 > 0:44:15Listen to this. "In divorces, the father should get automatic
0:44:15 > 0:44:21"custody of their sons so that they are not exposed to the gender war propaganda of their mothers."
0:44:21 > 0:44:24No wonder he was able to recruit Anthony Vernon.
0:44:24 > 0:44:27I still don't think he put Vernon up to framing John Davies though.
0:44:27 > 0:44:30No, neither do I.
0:44:30 > 0:44:33Vernon's just an extremist who wanted to show devotion
0:44:33 > 0:44:37to his hero and I also don't think he had anything to do with Yasser's death.
0:44:37 > 0:44:40You're right about that. Because we don't think that Yasser is dead.
0:44:40 > 0:44:43OK, there is no record of an official adoption.
0:44:43 > 0:44:45That doesn't mean anything, Jack.
0:44:45 > 0:44:48But there is a record of another child.
0:44:48 > 0:44:51Born to Gillian in December 1980.
0:44:51 > 0:44:53Died February 1981.
0:44:53 > 0:44:56Three months? Gawd, poor cow.
0:44:56 > 0:45:01She did say she'd been going through a bad time before hooking up with Anne and Fred.
0:45:01 > 0:45:04A marriage break-up - sounds like we've found the cause.
0:45:04 > 0:45:07And the name of the child that died was William.
0:45:07 > 0:45:11So, a couple of days after Yasser goes missing, Gillian goes to Africa
0:45:11 > 0:45:13and comes back two years later with a white son.
0:45:13 > 0:45:18She kept saying that Anne didn't realise how lucky she was to have Yasser.
0:45:18 > 0:45:22Maybe she decided to prove her point and take him away.
0:45:22 > 0:45:25We'll pursue this line of enquiry but I want to handle it with kid gloves.
0:45:25 > 0:45:29I don't want to confront a bereaved mother until we've done a bit of digging.
0:45:29 > 0:45:32We should talk to he ex-husband. See if they kept in touch.
0:45:32 > 0:45:34Yeah, bring him in tomorrow morning.
0:46:05 > 0:46:07Brian! What are you doing now?
0:46:07 > 0:46:09- I'm looking for listening devices. - What?
0:46:09 > 0:46:13Do you remember when we had that squariel fitted years ago?
0:46:13 > 0:46:16- I think that's when they might have done it!- What?!
0:46:16 > 0:46:18Oh, don't look at me like that, Esther!
0:46:18 > 0:46:22I wouldn't need to do this if it wasn't for you and your radical politics.
0:46:22 > 0:46:27Hang on. You went to those meetings as well!
0:46:27 > 0:46:31I was... I was trying to impress you.
0:46:31 > 0:46:33I had no interest in politics!
0:46:33 > 0:46:36Oh, for God's sake, give me that.
0:46:36 > 0:46:39If I'd have known it was going to ruin me career...
0:46:45 > 0:46:46I beg your pardon?
0:46:46 > 0:46:51- Nothing.- Are you trying to say that I've been holding you back?
0:46:51 > 0:46:53Not on purpose.
0:46:55 > 0:47:00Would you like to talk about what ruined your career?
0:47:00 > 0:47:03Would you like to talk about the drinking?
0:47:03 > 0:47:05The obsessive behaviour?
0:47:07 > 0:47:08No. I didn't think you would.
0:47:13 > 0:47:15Mr Withall, I'm Detective Superintendent Pullman.
0:47:15 > 0:47:18Thank you for coming in, take a seat.
0:47:18 > 0:47:21Can I get you a tea or coffee?
0:47:21 > 0:47:24No, thank you. You said this was about Gillian.
0:47:24 > 0:47:27When was the last time you saw your ex-wife?
0:47:27 > 0:47:29- Why? Has something happened to her? Is she OK?- She's fine.
0:47:29 > 0:47:32Because I haven't seen her since the divorce became final.
0:47:32 > 0:47:35Would you mind if we asked you about your divorce?
0:47:36 > 0:47:39Erm, well, it wasn't my idea.
0:47:39 > 0:47:41It was after...
0:47:41 > 0:47:44- We lost our son. Cot death. - Yes, we know and we're very sorry.
0:47:44 > 0:47:46One of them things.
0:47:46 > 0:47:48That's what they say.
0:47:48 > 0:47:51But it felt like the end of the world and it never really goes away.
0:47:51 > 0:47:52There's always a hole.
0:47:52 > 0:47:56And for us that hole became divorce.
0:47:57 > 0:48:01You say that you've not seen Gillian, but you have heard from her?
0:48:01 > 0:48:05- Do you still have any mutual friends? - No, she cut everyone off, pretty much.
0:48:05 > 0:48:07What about her family? Do you keep in touch with them?
0:48:07 > 0:48:09She didn't have much family.
0:48:09 > 0:48:11Her mum and dad had gone.
0:48:11 > 0:48:15Erm, she had a brother but he lived in Canada and they weren't close.
0:48:15 > 0:48:18That's why we wanted to start a family. We wanted a houseful.
0:48:18 > 0:48:19So, no contact?
0:48:19 > 0:48:22I tried to get in touch in 2001.
0:48:22 > 0:48:24It would have been Will's 21st.
0:48:24 > 0:48:29I wondered if she wanted to go to the graveyard, leave some flowers.
0:48:29 > 0:48:32I got in touch with her through the nurses' union.
0:48:32 > 0:48:33She wouldn't talk to me.
0:48:33 > 0:48:34She wanted a new start.
0:48:34 > 0:48:39- Did she say that?- Yeah. I just hope she got what she wanted.
0:48:41 > 0:48:46Mr Withall, I'm assuming that you don't know that Gillian has adopted a son?
0:48:50 > 0:48:53No, I didn't.
0:48:53 > 0:48:55She never...
0:48:56 > 0:48:59- A boy? What did she call him?- William.
0:48:59 > 0:49:02Really? William?
0:49:04 > 0:49:05I would never have...
0:49:10 > 0:49:13- Is that everything? - Yes, I think that's it.
0:49:13 > 0:49:15Thank you very much and, um... I'm sorry.
0:49:28 > 0:49:31- Well, that wasn't fun. - Illuminating though.
0:49:31 > 0:49:35Gillian Withall was isolated enough to bring the child home
0:49:35 > 0:49:38and not to have anybody ask any awkward questions.
0:49:38 > 0:49:40Well, she's going to answer some questions now.
0:49:40 > 0:49:42Let's get it over with.
0:49:44 > 0:49:47I suppose we just stay here and twiddle our thumbs?
0:49:49 > 0:49:51Fancy going rogue?
0:49:58 > 0:50:01Hello. Back again? What can I do for you this time?
0:50:01 > 0:50:05- This is Superintendent Pullman, we'd like to talk to you. - And your son.
0:50:07 > 0:50:09Yes, erm, this way.
0:50:12 > 0:50:17I think I always knew there was something not quite right.
0:50:17 > 0:50:18She wouldn't let me see my dad.
0:50:18 > 0:50:20Why not?
0:50:20 > 0:50:23Mum said he was violent and that we didn't need him.
0:50:24 > 0:50:28And every time I needed anything official, any paperwork...
0:50:28 > 0:50:30it was always lost or there was some complication.
0:50:30 > 0:50:33Would be?
0:50:33 > 0:50:38So... Who am I?
0:50:40 > 0:50:46I don't want to give a definitive answer to that until we've done a DNA test and made some more enquiries.
0:50:46 > 0:50:51Yeah, I get that. But before we get into the soap opera part of all this...
0:50:51 > 0:50:53Just tell me who I might be?
0:50:55 > 0:50:58Nicos Megas. That's your real name, OK?
0:50:58 > 0:50:59It's not Yasser.
0:50:59 > 0:51:02His mother gave him to me when she died.
0:51:02 > 0:51:05I've got all the paperwork at home to prove it. He's mine.
0:51:05 > 0:51:07- You're mine, Will.- It's OK.
0:51:07 > 0:51:08Calm down. I'm 30-years-old, mum.
0:51:08 > 0:51:10They can't take me away.
0:51:10 > 0:51:13You're not who they're saying you are.
0:51:13 > 0:51:16- They haven't said anything, Mum. - I wouldn't just...
0:51:16 > 0:51:19I can't believe you think I'd do that to another family!
0:51:19 > 0:51:21I know what it feels like to lose a child.
0:51:24 > 0:51:26SHE SOBS
0:51:30 > 0:51:36- Do you think we've got the right clearance for using the loos this time?- Stop moaning.
0:51:36 > 0:51:40I just think we're wasting our time here, Gerry.
0:51:40 > 0:51:42This lodger thing's going nowhere.
0:51:42 > 0:51:46They weren't even taking in students when Yasser went missing.
0:51:46 > 0:51:49Yeah, but they were there when he was conceived.
0:51:49 > 0:51:51- Oh, here we are!- What?
0:51:51 > 0:51:56Harry, or Abu Hamas as his mum called him.
0:51:56 > 0:51:59- Half of it's blacked out. - Yeah. Redacted.
0:51:59 > 0:52:03- Eh?- That means this material's still highly classified.
0:52:03 > 0:52:06I wonder if that Richard bloke's still about.
0:52:06 > 0:52:09- We need to be fully briefed. - Go and ask him.
0:52:10 > 0:52:12HE CHUCKLES
0:52:14 > 0:52:17Pack it all up. We're putting this one down to experience.
0:52:17 > 0:52:18Oh, no, no, you can't!
0:52:18 > 0:52:22Gillian Withall was a dead end. I can't progress with this any further.
0:52:22 > 0:52:23Yeah, but we can.
0:52:23 > 0:52:26We think that Yasser was taken by his dad.
0:52:26 > 0:52:29- Fred?- Abu Hamas, from Gaza.
0:52:29 > 0:52:31He was a leading light in the PLO.
0:52:31 > 0:52:35- Is he now?- Was. He's dead, which is why the spooks could tell us about him.- Spooks?
0:52:35 > 0:52:39He died in a border skirmish in 1989, during the First Intifada.
0:52:39 > 0:52:41Why do we think he's Yasser's dad?
0:52:41 > 0:52:43Timing.
0:52:43 > 0:52:47Abu Hamas and Anne Gorton were at it nine months before Yasser was born.
0:52:47 > 0:52:50Whereas Fred and Anne definitely weren't.
0:52:50 > 0:52:55Initially because Fred was away, and then according to surveillance reports,
0:52:55 > 0:52:58because they were occupying separate bedrooms.
0:52:58 > 0:53:00MI5 gave us this, look.
0:53:02 > 0:53:03Bloody hell.
0:53:03 > 0:53:05Wait for it.
0:53:05 > 0:53:09Who'd you think was guest speaker at the rally before the Free Palestine march?
0:53:09 > 0:53:11- Abu...thing?- Hamas, yeah.
0:53:11 > 0:53:14And who do you think flew him in and sponsored his visitor's visa?
0:53:17 > 0:53:21- I'm teaching at the moment, so I don't have time for this. - What's the lecture about?
0:53:21 > 0:53:25Second-wave feminism and the threat of the fallow holocaust.
0:53:25 > 0:53:28- Death to the penis. - Not fathers' rights, then.
0:53:28 > 0:53:32- I speak on that frequently, just not today.- I want to check I've got something right.
0:53:32 > 0:53:35You think that boys should always live with their fathers,
0:53:35 > 0:53:39irrespective of any issues around child welfare, domestic violence...
0:53:39 > 0:53:41Another tool in the belt of the feminazis.
0:53:41 > 0:53:45- Most accusations are false. - You'd know better than me, a serving police officer.
0:53:45 > 0:53:49To answer your question, yes, boys should be brought up by their fathers,
0:53:49 > 0:53:53to keep them away from the feminist indoctrination of their mothers.
0:53:53 > 0:53:57That's why you handed Yasser over to Abu Hamas, is it? For political reasons?
0:54:00 > 0:54:02I knew the moment the doctor gave Anne her due date.
0:54:02 > 0:54:03Even I can count to nine.
0:54:03 > 0:54:07So you just waited until the right moment and handed him over?
0:54:07 > 0:54:10I traced Abu Hamas and told him the truth.
0:54:10 > 0:54:13I sent him photos until it was time to put things right.
0:54:13 > 0:54:15It was the right thing to do.
0:54:15 > 0:54:18Bringing up another man's child is wrong.
0:54:18 > 0:54:21I just didn't love him.
0:54:21 > 0:54:24I felt guilty about that at the time, but not any more.
0:54:24 > 0:54:26It was the purest political act of my life.
0:54:26 > 0:54:29- Bollocks.- I'm sorry?
0:54:29 > 0:54:30So you should be.
0:54:30 > 0:54:33What you did wasn't the act of a man.
0:54:33 > 0:54:38A real man wouldn't have cared. He'd have just been proud to have the privilege of being a father.
0:54:38 > 0:54:41Oh, I see. You work under a woman long enough
0:54:41 > 0:54:44and you start to think like them. Do you know what you are?
0:54:44 > 0:54:46What you did wasn't politics, it was having a pop at your wife.
0:54:46 > 0:54:48A mangina.
0:54:48 > 0:54:51It was about putting her through 25 years of grief
0:54:51 > 0:54:55so that you could feel better about her shagging another bloke.
0:54:55 > 0:54:58And if that makes you a man and me a mangina,
0:54:58 > 0:54:59book me in for a Brazilian.
0:55:01 > 0:55:05- Sorry, boss.- No apology necessary.
0:55:05 > 0:55:07And where is he now?
0:55:07 > 0:55:11Still in Gaza as far as we know. I'm sorry we don't have more.
0:55:11 > 0:55:14He's alive, that's all I need.
0:55:16 > 0:55:18A chance.
0:55:18 > 0:55:20A chance to find him.
0:55:20 > 0:55:24- You're going to look for him? - Of course.
0:55:24 > 0:55:28Well, be careful, Gaza's not the safest place in the world.
0:55:28 > 0:55:30You don't have children, do you?
0:55:30 > 0:55:35- No.- Sorry, it wasn't supposed to be an accusation, it's just...
0:55:35 > 0:55:37You couldn't possibly understand.
0:55:37 > 0:55:41Maybe that's how Fred could do what he did.
0:55:41 > 0:55:45- Because he couldn't understand what he was doing to me. - Oh, I think he understood.
0:55:45 > 0:55:50- And I think he's spent the last 20 years justifying it to himself and everyone else.- Maybe.
0:55:54 > 0:55:55Thank you.
0:55:59 > 0:56:01Urgh, not much of a result.
0:56:01 > 0:56:07Well, harassment and perverting the course of justice charges against Vernon and Fred.
0:56:07 > 0:56:11Yeah, big deal. Are you sure we can't do Blackledge on something else?
0:56:11 > 0:56:15He gave a child to his to his father. It was Abu Hamas who took him out of the country.
0:56:15 > 0:56:18And it caused a bit of damage on the way, William Withall.
0:56:18 > 0:56:21Aye, and me. Now I know I've been living in a police state.
0:56:21 > 0:56:25Oh, for God's sake! I've read your file when we were setting up this team.
0:56:25 > 0:56:28- I knew there was a file on me! - Of course there was!
0:56:28 > 0:56:32I was right, wasn't I? Esther's radicalism's ruined my career!
0:56:32 > 0:56:34I should never have gone to those meetings.
0:56:34 > 0:56:36Signing my name on bloody petitions!
0:56:36 > 0:56:39It said you were too insignificant for surveillance,
0:56:39 > 0:56:41and that Esther was essentially harmless.
0:56:41 > 0:56:43Happy now?
0:56:46 > 0:56:49Right. Thanks.
0:56:53 > 0:56:57Harmless? Are you sure they were watching the right woman?
0:56:57 > 0:56:59Oh, come on!
0:57:00 > 0:57:02- Goodnight, Sandra.- Goodnight.
0:57:02 > 0:57:04See you there.
0:57:04 > 0:57:06I've read your report.
0:57:06 > 0:57:08Sorry it wasn't the result you wanted, sir.
0:57:08 > 0:57:09What do you mean?
0:57:09 > 0:57:14Well, Davies is still at large. I hope you don't think it was a complete waste of resources.
0:57:14 > 0:57:16Of course not. Is that what you thought?
0:57:16 > 0:57:18- That's not why I counselled you against this case.- Sir?
0:57:18 > 0:57:23UCOS does extraordinary work. It breaks cases that are unbreakable.
0:57:23 > 0:57:26But child abductions? They eat resources and burn out officers.
0:57:26 > 0:57:28But you don't feel you can let it go.
0:57:28 > 0:57:30It's a missing child, after all.
0:57:30 > 0:57:33So you work your overtime and ignore the people at home.
0:57:33 > 0:57:37And when you do finally get a result, it's not usually a good one.
0:57:37 > 0:57:42Maybe I wanted to protect four of my most valuable assets from that?
0:57:42 > 0:57:43Goodnight.
0:57:43 > 0:57:45Goodnight, sir.
0:57:47 > 0:57:50Esther!
0:57:50 > 0:57:52I've got something for you.
0:58:02 > 0:58:06I thought I'd help you save that post office, or anything else for that matter.
0:58:06 > 0:58:10If it needs saving, banning or its consciousness raising, I'm your man.
0:58:10 > 0:58:13Just like the old days. What do you think?
0:58:16 > 0:58:17Oh, Betty!
0:58:25 > 0:58:28# It's all right It's OK
0:58:28 > 0:58:31# Doesn't really matter if you're old and grey
0:58:31 > 0:58:33# It's all right I say it's OK
0:58:33 > 0:58:37# Listen to what I say
0:58:37 > 0:58:39# It's all right, doing fine
0:58:39 > 0:58:42# Doesn't really matter if the sun don't shine
0:58:42 > 0:58:45# It's all right I say it's OK
0:58:45 > 0:58:47# We're gettin' to the end of the day. #
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