0:00:07 > 0:00:11Even coming in here... Someone sees me coming in or out of this place...
0:00:11 > 0:00:15- We understand.- This is a risk for me. - Yes.- A big risk.
0:00:15 > 0:00:18Don't worry, there's a way out at the back, I'll show you later.
0:00:18 > 0:00:22- You have information on Edward Chapman's murder...- Eddie. Yeah.
0:00:22 > 0:00:25- Go on.- It wasn't another club.
0:00:25 > 0:00:28That's what you all think, isn't it? Like a gang war or something.
0:00:28 > 0:00:32It's what you lot always think, saves you having to dust off your thinking caps.
0:00:32 > 0:00:36The Dartford lot. That's who The Braves think did it.
0:00:36 > 0:00:38- Or that's what they told Reese. - Reese?
0:00:38 > 0:00:43Reese Chapman. Eddie's son. Two years in April, me and Reese.
0:00:43 > 0:00:47- And this Reese is a member of The Braves, is he?- He's a prospect.
0:00:47 > 0:00:49Like a trial member.
0:00:49 > 0:00:52Eddie was a founder, so Reese has been around that lot
0:00:52 > 0:00:55since he was a kid. He's been a prospect for two years.
0:00:55 > 0:00:59He held on even after Eddie died, thinks he's making his dad proud...
0:00:59 > 0:01:00and his mum.
0:01:02 > 0:01:05A week tomorrow, he becomes a full member.
0:01:05 > 0:01:10- Initiation.- Initiation. - Yeah, Motorcycle clubs. The initiation for new members.
0:01:10 > 0:01:12So what does Reese have to do?
0:01:12 > 0:01:15He's got to avenge his dad by killing one of the gang who did it.
0:01:15 > 0:01:19Except they didn't. It was Marcus York, the president of The Braves.
0:01:19 > 0:01:22- He killed Eddie. - How do you know that?- I know.
0:01:24 > 0:01:28Eddie Chapman's murder was unsolved, there were no witnesses,
0:01:28 > 0:01:32no physical evidence. We can look at the case again if you have any new evidence...
0:01:32 > 0:01:35I'm sitting here and I'm telling you, in a week's time,
0:01:35 > 0:01:37my boyfriend is going to commit murder.
0:01:37 > 0:01:40Now, I can't stop him doing that, but you can.
0:01:41 > 0:01:43# It's all right, it's OK
0:01:43 > 0:01:46# Doesn't really matter if you're old and grey
0:01:46 > 0:01:49# It's all right, I say it's OK
0:01:49 > 0:01:52# Listen to what I say
0:01:52 > 0:01:55# It's all right, doing fine
0:01:55 > 0:01:57# Doesn't really matter if the sun don't shine
0:01:57 > 0:02:00# It's all right, I say it's OK
0:02:00 > 0:02:03# We're getting to the end of the day. #
0:02:05 > 0:02:09Karen and Marcus aren't meant to have started their thing until Eddie was killed.
0:02:09 > 0:02:11But I saw them before, in a hotel.
0:02:11 > 0:02:13- If it was happening then... - Whoa, whoa.
0:02:13 > 0:02:16You've lost us already. Just slow down and start from the beginning.
0:02:16 > 0:02:18Can I smoke in here?
0:02:18 > 0:02:20- No.- Sadly.
0:02:23 > 0:02:29OK, so Eddie Chapman and Marcus York were best mates from the year dot.
0:02:29 > 0:02:32Eddie left school and joined the army and while he was away,
0:02:32 > 0:02:36Marcus got himself in some kind of trouble and ended up inside.
0:02:36 > 0:02:39Yeah, wounding with intent. Did five years.
0:02:39 > 0:02:42Marcus got out and Eddie came home
0:02:42 > 0:02:46and that's when they set up The Braves. This is about 25 years ago.
0:02:46 > 0:02:50Around the same time, Eddie married Karen and they were together up until Eddie died.
0:02:50 > 0:02:54- Reese is their only kid. - Your boyfriend?- Yeah.
0:02:54 > 0:02:57So now Karen Chapman and Marcus York are together
0:02:57 > 0:03:00and supposedly this happened after Eddie was killed.
0:03:00 > 0:03:02Marcus was consoling her and it turned into something else.
0:03:02 > 0:03:07- But you think they were having an affair while Eddie was still alive? - I saw them.
0:03:07 > 0:03:11About a month before Eddie died, I was visiting some friends one evening
0:03:11 > 0:03:15who were over from New Zealand. Anyway, we've had a few drinks in the hotel bar
0:03:15 > 0:03:20and we get a couple of bottles to take up to their room because you could smoke up there.
0:03:20 > 0:03:23I must have left about one in the morning, I reckon.
0:03:23 > 0:03:25As I'm coming out of the room, I hear another door open
0:03:25 > 0:03:29further down the corridor and Karen Chapman and Marcus York come out,
0:03:29 > 0:03:31all giggly and flirty, you know, like kids.
0:03:31 > 0:03:35- And it doesn't take much imagination to...- Did they see you?
0:03:35 > 0:03:37- No.- You sure? - Well, they were going the other way
0:03:37 > 0:03:40and I ducked back into the room as soon as I saw them.
0:03:40 > 0:03:44- And did you tell anyone?- No.
0:03:44 > 0:03:46No! Look if it got out that I even saw them,
0:03:46 > 0:03:48let alone told anyone about it...
0:03:48 > 0:03:51Those are not two people you want to get on the wrong side of.
0:03:51 > 0:03:55Even assuming there isn't another explanation for what you saw,
0:03:55 > 0:03:57it hardly constitutes evidence in a murder inquiry.
0:03:57 > 0:04:01- It's motive.- Stephanie, Eddie Chapman was founder member
0:04:01 > 0:04:04of one of the most vicious motorcycle clubs in the UK.
0:04:04 > 0:04:07We're really not short of motives for his murder.
0:04:07 > 0:04:09I saw him on the night he died.
0:04:09 > 0:04:13He'd been in Rotterdam for a few days, sorting out a shipment of bike parts,
0:04:13 > 0:04:17and he'd just got back that afternoon. He came over looking for Reese,
0:04:17 > 0:04:20but Reese was at some party and wasn't answering his phone.
0:04:20 > 0:04:23Eddie was in a terrible state.
0:04:23 > 0:04:27Really wound up about something, but he wouldn't tell me what it was.
0:04:27 > 0:04:30He kept muttering about loyalty and betrayal.
0:04:30 > 0:04:32He knew.
0:04:32 > 0:04:35I'm sure he just found out about Karen and Marcus.
0:04:35 > 0:04:38I tried to get him to calm down and talk to me,
0:04:38 > 0:04:40but he'd been drinking and he couldn't settle.
0:04:40 > 0:04:43I told him he should sit down and wait for Reese to call him back,
0:04:43 > 0:04:46but he was out the door again a few minutes later.
0:04:48 > 0:04:52And that was it. An hour later, they reckon, was when he died.
0:04:55 > 0:04:57- And that's it?- Yeah.
0:04:57 > 0:05:01- He didn't tell you where he'd come from, or where he was going?- No.
0:05:01 > 0:05:04Did he make any reference to his wife having an affair apart from
0:05:04 > 0:05:07- all that stuff about loyalty and betrayal?- No.
0:05:11 > 0:05:15- I've wasted my time.- No, we'll look at the files again.- Yeah.
0:05:15 > 0:05:19- Without something specific... - You said there was a back way out of here?- Yeah.
0:05:19 > 0:05:22- We will look at the files. - I need a cigarette.
0:05:30 > 0:05:34I think my dad knows what happened.
0:05:34 > 0:05:37If he gets even a whiff that this comes from me...
0:05:38 > 0:05:40David Parr.
0:05:40 > 0:05:42Runs a motorcycle parts company.
0:05:42 > 0:05:45Eddie Chapman was his partner and they were close.
0:05:45 > 0:05:49If Eddie was going to talk to anyone about Karen and Marcus, it would have been my dad.
0:05:49 > 0:05:53- Have you asked him about it?- I have, but he won't discuss it with me.
0:05:53 > 0:05:58- Why not?- Because people who have dirt on The Braves don't live very long.
0:06:04 > 0:06:08Eddie Chapman's body was found in an alleyway off the Holloway Road
0:06:08 > 0:06:10on 21st December, 2009.
0:06:10 > 0:06:14He'd been stabbed seven times in the chest and stomach.
0:06:14 > 0:06:18Now several passers-by reported that they heard an argument
0:06:18 > 0:06:20between two men at around 11pm,
0:06:20 > 0:06:22which would have been about the time of his death.
0:06:22 > 0:06:24But the area being what it was,
0:06:24 > 0:06:27- no-one went to see what was going on.- What about the knife?
0:06:27 > 0:06:31According to the pathologist, a flick knife, but it was never found.
0:06:31 > 0:06:35Now, Eddie Chapman was a founder member of a motorcycle club
0:06:35 > 0:06:37called The Braves.
0:06:37 > 0:06:39Now we're not talking about a load of fat old geezers
0:06:39 > 0:06:43on Harleys cruising the country lanes on a Sunday afternoon,
0:06:43 > 0:06:47this lot are a serious organised crime outfit - drug trafficking,
0:06:47 > 0:06:50protection, murder for hire. You name it.
0:06:50 > 0:06:54These gangs are major players all across northern Europe these days,
0:06:54 > 0:06:56but there's a lot of inter-gang rivalry.
0:06:56 > 0:06:59So the original investigation assumed that Eddie Chapman
0:06:59 > 0:07:02had been killed by an outfit called the Dartford Strays.
0:07:02 > 0:07:07If Stephanie Parr thinks different, why doesn't she tell her boyfriend he's after the wrong people?
0:07:07 > 0:07:10- She can't prove it.- Ah.
0:07:10 > 0:07:13And even if he believed her, she's worried that he'd confront Marcus York,
0:07:13 > 0:07:15which probably wouldn't end well for him.
0:07:15 > 0:07:18The "not being able to prove it" is the salient point, isn't it?
0:07:18 > 0:07:20This girl hasn't got a shred of evidence
0:07:20 > 0:07:23- to support these allegations. - We've got a gun to our heads, Jack.
0:07:23 > 0:07:25We don't have a gun to our heads, Brian.
0:07:25 > 0:07:28If this lad's going to kill someone unless we prove...
0:07:28 > 0:07:32- Since when have we been threatened into taking on a case?- We're not being threatened!
0:07:32 > 0:07:35There's a pile of unsolved cases over there,
0:07:35 > 0:07:39- why is something as flimsy as this jumping the queue?!- If you let me get a word in, I'll explain...
0:07:39 > 0:07:42- Welcome to my world, Gerry! - Huh. Marcus York.
0:07:42 > 0:07:46President of The Braves and one of the nastier pieces of work
0:07:46 > 0:07:48any of us are ever going to come across.
0:07:48 > 0:07:51Now, in the last three decades, he's been pulled for murder,
0:07:51 > 0:07:54attempted murder, wounding with intent, assault, you name it,
0:07:54 > 0:07:57and every single time, he's walked.
0:07:57 > 0:08:00Either because the witnesses have retracted their statements
0:08:00 > 0:08:02or just vanished into thin air.
0:08:02 > 0:08:08- Ah! He's on the wish list. - Exactly. The Met have wanted him out of commission for years.
0:08:08 > 0:08:12And you think we're going to succeed where they failed on the word of some teenaged girl?!
0:08:12 > 0:08:16- Probably not, but we'll at least explore the possibility. - Waste of time.
0:08:16 > 0:08:19If someone comes to see us, at considerable risk to themselves,
0:08:19 > 0:08:23- we're duty-bound to look into the allegations they're making.- Come on!
0:08:23 > 0:08:26So, you two go and talk to David Parr, Stephanie's father.
0:08:26 > 0:08:30She reckons he knows more about what happened than he's prepared to tell her.
0:08:30 > 0:08:32If he won't talk to his own daughter, why will he talk to us?
0:08:32 > 0:08:35No reason at all, but we're going to ask anyway.
0:08:35 > 0:08:39Just think, Jack, when you are done, you can get back to
0:08:39 > 0:08:42that huge pile of cases you've taken such a sudden shine to.
0:08:44 > 0:08:47So how come you're looking into this again?
0:08:47 > 0:08:50We review old cases from time to time.
0:08:50 > 0:08:52- Dotting the I's, crossing the T's. - Uh-huh.
0:08:52 > 0:08:57- How long had you been in business with Eddie Chapman?- Well, er... - 15 years.
0:08:59 > 0:09:01- Oh, sorry. - 15 years sounds about right.
0:09:01 > 0:09:04- You must have been close. - We were friends since we were kids.
0:09:04 > 0:09:08So Mr Chapman was a member of The Braves before you set up in business with him?
0:09:08 > 0:09:12Yeah, but I didn't have anything to do with that side of things.
0:09:12 > 0:09:15- But they were customers of yours, weren't they?- Our biggest customers.
0:09:15 > 0:09:18The club runs a repair shop off the Holloway Road.
0:09:18 > 0:09:22They get all their gear from us. What I meant before was, I don't...
0:09:22 > 0:09:26- I'm not a member of the club. I don't socialise with them or anything.- But you ride a bike?- I do.
0:09:26 > 0:09:30Ah, like-minded people. Your best friend was a founder member.
0:09:30 > 0:09:34- Yeah, I don't like the lifestyle. - What does that mean?
0:09:34 > 0:09:38Dad? These new crates aren't catalogued properly, someone's going to have to...
0:09:38 > 0:09:41Sorry, I didn't know there were...
0:09:41 > 0:09:45- These are policemen, love. They are, they're here about Eddie.- Oh.
0:09:45 > 0:09:47This is my daughter.
0:09:47 > 0:09:48- Hello.- Nice to meet you.
0:09:48 > 0:09:50I'll have a look at the crates in a bit, eh?
0:09:50 > 0:09:54All right, I'm going to head off, then. I'll call you later.
0:09:54 > 0:09:55See you later.
0:09:57 > 0:10:01- Family business? - Well, me and Stephanie. My wife died four years ago,
0:10:01 > 0:10:03so it's just the two of us now.
0:10:03 > 0:10:05She's more friendly with The Braves than you are.
0:10:05 > 0:10:10That's Reese Chapman. Eddie's boy. They've known each other since they were kids.
0:10:10 > 0:10:13He's all right, Reese, he went off the rails a bit in his teens
0:10:13 > 0:10:15but he's grown up a bit in the last few years.
0:10:15 > 0:10:20I think Stephanie's been a good influence on him. Sorry, what were you asking me?
0:10:20 > 0:10:24- Did Eddie Chapman used to confide in you?- About what?
0:10:24 > 0:10:27His personal life, any worries he might have had...
0:10:27 > 0:10:31- Yeah, sometimes. You know, we talked about stuff. - What about on the day he died?
0:10:31 > 0:10:34I didn't see him. He'd been away in Rotterdam for a couple of days,
0:10:34 > 0:10:37sorting out a shipment with one of our suppliers.
0:10:37 > 0:10:39He got back late afternoon. I didn't see him.
0:10:39 > 0:10:42And before that? The last time you saw him or spoke to him?
0:10:42 > 0:10:44Everything was fine.
0:10:44 > 0:10:47- And if it hadn't have been, he would have told you?- Yeah, I reckon.
0:10:47 > 0:10:50- Things all right between him and Mrs Chapman?- Why wouldn't they be?
0:10:50 > 0:10:52She's with Marcus York now.
0:10:52 > 0:10:55- Yeah, but all that happened way after, didn't it?- Did it?
0:10:55 > 0:10:57Would you have been his first port of call?
0:10:57 > 0:11:00I mean, if he'd needed to get anything off his chest,
0:11:00 > 0:11:03might he have talked to somebody at the club?
0:11:03 > 0:11:05No. Maybe before, he might have gone to Spike...
0:11:05 > 0:11:09- Spike?- Paul Worsley. Spike was his nickname. Nice fella.
0:11:09 > 0:11:12He was a Brave, one of the oldest members.
0:11:12 > 0:11:14But he died a month or so before Eddie.
0:11:14 > 0:11:15Died? How?
0:11:15 > 0:11:17Pub fight.
0:11:17 > 0:11:20Someone hit him a bit too hard over the head and he never woke up.
0:11:20 > 0:11:22Eddie must have been a bit upset about that.
0:11:22 > 0:11:25Yeah, he was, he was gutted.
0:11:25 > 0:11:28- Who was Spike fighting with? - No idea.
0:11:28 > 0:11:31Look, I'm sorry, I can't be more helpful.
0:11:31 > 0:11:33I've got no idea what happened to Eddie, I'm afraid.
0:11:33 > 0:11:35He was fine the last time I saw him...
0:11:35 > 0:11:38I don't know what else I can tell you.
0:11:38 > 0:11:40This is nicer than expected.
0:11:40 > 0:11:42You don't get one of these selling motorcycle parts.
0:11:42 > 0:11:46- Yeah, but she's not going to admit to having an affair, is she?- No.
0:11:46 > 0:11:49And the hotel has no records of either Karen Chapman or Marcus York
0:11:49 > 0:11:54- booking a room for the night that Stephanie says she saw them. - They could have used false names.
0:11:54 > 0:11:57Or they were never there in the first place...
0:11:57 > 0:11:59Even if she does admit to having an affair,
0:11:59 > 0:12:01- that's not going to prove anything, is it?- No.
0:12:01 > 0:12:04- Then why are we here then? - I'm not expecting answers, Gerry.
0:12:04 > 0:12:07I just want to see her reaction to the questions.
0:12:10 > 0:12:12Karen Chapman?
0:12:12 > 0:12:15- Detective Super... - I don't want to know your names.
0:12:15 > 0:12:17We'd like five minutes of your time. May we come in?
0:12:17 > 0:12:20Not unless you've got a warrant.
0:12:20 > 0:12:23- We're looking into the murder of your husband.- Why?
0:12:23 > 0:12:26- Because it was never solved.- Not as far as anyone else is concerned.
0:12:26 > 0:12:30- It's common knowledge who killed Eddie.- The Dartford Strays?
0:12:30 > 0:12:32- We're looking into other possibilities.- Such as?
0:12:32 > 0:12:36We understand that you're in a relationship with Marcus York now.
0:12:36 > 0:12:38Yeah, well, that's none of your business.
0:12:38 > 0:12:43Depending on when that relationship started, it might be our business.
0:12:43 > 0:12:45Who's been pulling your chain?
0:12:45 > 0:12:47When did the relationship start?
0:12:47 > 0:12:51A couple of months after Eddie was murdered by those bastards in Dartford.
0:12:54 > 0:12:56Going to call me a liar?
0:12:59 > 0:13:01Then we're done, aren't we?
0:13:05 > 0:13:09Just explain to me how that woman had two men in her life.
0:13:09 > 0:13:11Well, she probably has one as a spare
0:13:11 > 0:13:13for after she's eaten the other one.
0:13:13 > 0:13:15- I'd rather be playing golf... - DOOR OPENS
0:13:15 > 0:13:16Oh, here she is...
0:13:18 > 0:13:23- Hello, Sandra.- Stuart Barlow! My God, what a blast from the past!
0:13:23 > 0:13:24How are you?
0:13:24 > 0:13:27Do you know Gerry Standing? This is...
0:13:27 > 0:13:31- What do I call you now? - Detective Superintendent. - Detective Superintendent Barlow.
0:13:31 > 0:13:34- Stuart.- Hiya.- We were at Hendon together.- Ah.- Thick as thieves.
0:13:34 > 0:13:36You worked under Jack for a while, didn't you?
0:13:36 > 0:13:40- In the dim and distant past. - Mr Hal... Jack... Taught me everything I know.
0:13:40 > 0:13:42It's a wonder you're not still in uniform, then.
0:13:42 > 0:13:45- Have you met Brian Lane? - Briefly, yeah.
0:13:45 > 0:13:48- The legendary UCOS team.- Hardly.
0:13:48 > 0:13:50- Where are you now?- Organised Crime.
0:13:50 > 0:13:54- Ah, So this isn't a social visit then.- Well, it's both.
0:13:54 > 0:13:57- Shall we do the work bit first? - Yeah, sure.
0:13:57 > 0:13:58Er...
0:14:03 > 0:14:07- The Eddie Chapman case, Sandra. - Yeah.- Is it going anywhere?
0:14:07 > 0:14:09We only got it this morning, from a walk-in.
0:14:09 > 0:14:11- Who?- Stephanie Parr.
0:14:11 > 0:14:14She's the daughter of David Parr - Eddie Chapman's business partner.
0:14:14 > 0:14:19- Did she have anything? - Nothing concrete, no.- OK.
0:14:19 > 0:14:22- We're going to have to drop this one, I'm afraid.- Why?
0:14:22 > 0:14:25- It's been red-flagged. We're treading on toes.- The Braves.
0:14:25 > 0:14:28My lot have been working on them for a few years
0:14:28 > 0:14:31- and we're just starting now to get some evidence.- Drug trafficking?
0:14:31 > 0:14:35Yeah. Joint operations with the Dutch and Swedish police.
0:14:35 > 0:14:37We're uncovering their European connections
0:14:37 > 0:14:40and ties to other gangs in the Netherlands and Scandinavia.
0:14:40 > 0:14:43It's a whole network of organised crime. It's a big one for us.
0:14:43 > 0:14:47- For me, personally.- Are you close? - We're very close, very close.
0:14:47 > 0:14:50It's been a slog, getting any inside information on these gangs
0:14:50 > 0:14:54- is nigh on impossible, but we're just starting...- OK, OK.
0:14:54 > 0:14:55What?
0:14:55 > 0:14:58Well, she took quite a big risk coming in to see us.
0:14:58 > 0:15:01Well, you said she didn't have any evidence.
0:15:01 > 0:15:03No, I said she had nothing concrete.
0:15:03 > 0:15:05Then tell her you couldn't corroborate her story.
0:15:05 > 0:15:09- I'm sorry, Sandra, but we can't compromise Stuart's operation. - Of course.
0:15:09 > 0:15:14This gang is incredibly jumpy. A police presence now, even if it is just UCOS,
0:15:14 > 0:15:18it could spook them into quietening down their operations just when we're getting ready...
0:15:18 > 0:15:23Look, she only walked in this morning. I'll tell her we don't have the resources. It's no big deal.
0:15:23 > 0:15:27- Thank you, Sandra. - Good luck, Stuart.- Thank you, sir.
0:15:27 > 0:15:30I said I'd hook up with Jack later for a drink. You up for sinking a few?
0:15:30 > 0:15:32Nah, I've got some stuff to take care of.
0:15:32 > 0:15:34All right, what did I say?
0:15:34 > 0:15:36- You said "just UCOS".- Ah.
0:15:36 > 0:15:40You said The Braves would be spooked by a police presence, even if it was "just UCOS".
0:15:40 > 0:15:42I meant as opposed to a full-on murder enquiry.
0:15:42 > 0:15:45- No, that's not what you meant. - That's not what I meant...- So?
0:15:45 > 0:15:49You shot a dog. By accident. What was it seven, eight years ago?
0:15:49 > 0:15:52This is the longest anyone's ever spent on the naughty step, isn't it?
0:15:52 > 0:15:54- They're a good team. - It's a remarkable team.
0:15:54 > 0:15:58The clean-up rate is through the roof and those three guys are legends.
0:15:58 > 0:16:01If you were anybody else, I'd be shaking your hand, saying, "Good job."
0:16:02 > 0:16:06It's none of my business. Ignore me. We lost touch, people change.
0:16:06 > 0:16:10- I didn't mean to cause offence back there, really. It's just nice to see you again.- Changed how?
0:16:10 > 0:16:14- Seriously, forget it. Let me buy you a drink.- You think I've changed?
0:16:14 > 0:16:17I just strolled in there and pulled your team off a case.
0:16:17 > 0:16:19Sandra Pullman I trained with would never...
0:16:19 > 0:16:20We don't really have a case!
0:16:20 > 0:16:23We only got it this morning, we don't have anything!
0:16:23 > 0:16:27- That's fine then!- And if it jeopardises an existing operation, then...
0:16:28 > 0:16:31- I don't think I've changed.- OK.
0:16:31 > 0:16:36- No, it's not OK!- It feels like you've settled.- Ah.- We don't need to have this conversation.
0:16:36 > 0:16:40- I'm not doing the "really important work"?- Sandra.- What's an unsolved murder here or there
0:16:40 > 0:16:46- when I should be out battling the European drug cartels single-handed? - OK, that's really not what I meant.
0:16:47 > 0:16:50There are people out there at the sharp end, people who,
0:16:50 > 0:16:54on their very best day, are nowhere near as good as you.
0:16:54 > 0:16:56And instead of being out in the front,
0:16:56 > 0:16:59you're sitting in a basement cleaning up their mess.
0:17:02 > 0:17:05- Shall we take the stairs? - Hmm.
0:17:05 > 0:17:10- So you and Barlow go all the way back to Hendon, eh?- Yeah.
0:17:10 > 0:17:12Any...history?
0:17:12 > 0:17:15- No.- OK.- Why do you think that?
0:17:15 > 0:17:18Well, it was just that Brian was saying it's not like you
0:17:18 > 0:17:20to give up a case without a fight.
0:17:20 > 0:17:23Organised Crime have been onto this for three years, Gerry.
0:17:23 > 0:17:27- If we went barging in looking for Eddie Chapman's killer... - Yeah, yeah, I know.
0:17:27 > 0:17:30So you lot think I agreed to this because Stuart Barlow and I...
0:17:30 > 0:17:32No, no of course not.
0:17:32 > 0:17:36- UCOS doesn't go after people like Marcus York.- Since when?
0:17:36 > 0:17:40We don't have the manpower, the resources, or the expertise.
0:17:40 > 0:17:41Let's just get this over with.
0:17:41 > 0:17:44We'll tell Stephanie there's not enough evidence to support her case
0:17:44 > 0:17:47and then we'll go to the office, put the kettle on
0:17:47 > 0:17:50and blow the dust off another case from the Who Bloody Cares? file.
0:17:50 > 0:17:52What, like murder, you mean?
0:17:52 > 0:17:56- Somebody's dead child or...- Shh!
0:17:56 > 0:17:59KNOCKS ON THE DOOR Stephanie?
0:18:01 > 0:18:03Stephanie, police.
0:18:22 > 0:18:25Well, she's alive.
0:18:31 > 0:18:33OK, Thank you.
0:18:34 > 0:18:35She'll be OK.
0:18:35 > 0:18:37Scarred for life, they think, but OK.
0:18:37 > 0:18:40The way she was attacked, she must have seen who it was.
0:18:40 > 0:18:42She's not saying. She won't speak to us.
0:18:42 > 0:18:45Well whoever it was had the desired effect, didn't they?
0:18:45 > 0:18:47Forensics might come up with something from her flat.
0:18:47 > 0:18:51Active investigation, so whatever they find is none of our business.
0:18:51 > 0:18:54Except where it crosses over with the Eddie Chapman case.
0:18:54 > 0:18:59- Whoever attacked Stephanie must have...- Brian, we've dropped the Eddie Chapman case, remember?
0:19:02 > 0:19:07- Didn't we have this conversation? - Yeah, we did. But then someone attacked Stephanie Parr
0:19:07 > 0:19:10and now we have to have the Eddie Chapman case. Stephanie comes to us
0:19:10 > 0:19:12and alleges that Marcus York killed Eddie Chapman.
0:19:12 > 0:19:16- We asked questions and then someone attacked her. - If we drop the case now...
0:19:16 > 0:19:18The Braves'll realise you've been called off.
0:19:18 > 0:19:21They'll know something's up and batten down the hatches.
0:19:21 > 0:19:24UCOS will stick to the Eddie Chapman murder.
0:19:24 > 0:19:26They won't look at the drugs or any of the organised crime.
0:19:26 > 0:19:28And if those aspects cross into your case?
0:19:28 > 0:19:31Are we working on the theory that York killed Chapman
0:19:31 > 0:19:36- because Chapman found out York was sleeping with his wife?- Yes. - There shouldn't be any crossover.
0:19:36 > 0:19:40- His web's more tangled. - And we're not capable of navigating the murky waters
0:19:40 > 0:19:44- of organised crime...- Of course, I'm just concerned... - So stay and help them out.
0:19:44 > 0:19:46- Excuse me?- Sir, I don't think...
0:19:46 > 0:19:49I'm sure the team would benefit from your knowledge of The Braves
0:19:49 > 0:19:53and you can steer them clear of any lines of enquiry that could cause you trouble.
0:19:53 > 0:19:55- You OK with that, Sandra? - HE MOUTHS
0:19:55 > 0:19:58It's a great idea.
0:19:58 > 0:20:02- Excellent, I'll square it with your DAC, Stuart. Welcome to UCOS. - Thank you, sir.
0:20:06 > 0:20:07What, this is funny, is it?
0:20:07 > 0:20:10Don't worry, you'll fit right in!
0:20:11 > 0:20:14The attack on Stephanie Parr is an active investigation.
0:20:14 > 0:20:17Our job is to investigate Stephanie's assertion
0:20:17 > 0:20:19that Marcus York killed Eddie Chapman.
0:20:19 > 0:20:22And we still don't have any evidence for that.
0:20:22 > 0:20:25- Milk and sugar, Stuart? - Er, milk, one sugar. Thank you.
0:20:25 > 0:20:29Stephanie Parr's in a hospital bed because she came to see us.
0:20:29 > 0:20:33So somebody must have been worried about what she'd said.
0:20:33 > 0:20:35But who? And who even knew that she came to see us?
0:20:35 > 0:20:38As Sandra says, that's not the focus of the UCOS investigation.
0:20:38 > 0:20:42What happened to Stephanie is as likely to be punishment for her
0:20:42 > 0:20:45talking to the police as it is an attempt to shut her up.
0:20:45 > 0:20:47Thank you. I don't think you can assume
0:20:47 > 0:20:51that she's got any more useful information to give you regarding the Chapman case.
0:20:51 > 0:20:54Which brings us back to the fact that we still have no evidence.
0:20:54 > 0:20:59So who's to say that Chapman wasn't killed by this rival gang in Dartford?
0:21:00 > 0:21:02What?
0:21:03 > 0:21:08- Nothing.- No, no. If you've got something that will help our case...
0:21:08 > 0:21:11Chapman wasn't killed by anyone from the Dartford gang.
0:21:11 > 0:21:12How do you know that?
0:21:12 > 0:21:15And why did the original investigation conclude...
0:21:15 > 0:21:20Kent Police have got an informant in the Dartford gang. He's well placed and reliable
0:21:20 > 0:21:24and he swears blind that Chapman's death had nothing to do with them.
0:21:24 > 0:21:27- (Thanks, lads.)- That didn't go to the original investigation
0:21:27 > 0:21:30because the informant's existence needs to be kept secret.
0:21:30 > 0:21:34- Which means that information doesn't leave this room. - So what else are you not telling us?
0:21:34 > 0:21:37A staggering amount. None of it relevant to Chapman.
0:21:37 > 0:21:40- And you're the best judge of that, are you?- I'm going to have to be.
0:21:40 > 0:21:43Come to me with a question, I'll try to answer it.
0:21:43 > 0:21:47But I can't just volunteer information that might jeopardise what my team are doing.
0:21:47 > 0:21:50- So what can you tell us? - I can tell you that you should stop worrying about
0:21:50 > 0:21:53poor, innocent little Reese Chapman turning to the dark side.
0:21:53 > 0:21:56That happened seven years ago, when he was 14
0:21:56 > 0:22:00- and he stabbed a youth worker three times with a screwdriver. - That's not in the file...
0:22:00 > 0:22:03Not in his file. He was never charged because Mummy and Daddy got involved
0:22:03 > 0:22:07and suddenly the youth worker couldn't remember who'd attacked him.
0:22:07 > 0:22:11Two years ago Reese, and two other members of The Braves, Carl Butcher,
0:22:11 > 0:22:14Gary Wood, kicked a member of a rival gang into a coma at a music festival,
0:22:14 > 0:22:17in broad daylight in the middle of a group and no-one saw a thing.
0:22:17 > 0:22:19Well, David Parr did tell us
0:22:19 > 0:22:23that Reese Chapman had been a tearaway in his youth,
0:22:23 > 0:22:26but as far as he knew, he's a changed man now.
0:22:26 > 0:22:28Really?
0:22:28 > 0:22:32Let us be under no illusions here. Eddie Chapman was an animal.
0:22:32 > 0:22:35So's his kid. No-one on this board is innocent,
0:22:35 > 0:22:37none of them are going to tell you the truth
0:22:37 > 0:22:41and not one of them would think twice about sticking a knife in your guts if they feel cornered.
0:22:41 > 0:22:44Great. Can't wait to meet them.
0:22:46 > 0:22:50Not the most salubrious criminal headquarters, is it?
0:22:50 > 0:22:53The King's Head is just round the corner.
0:22:53 > 0:22:57- Jack!- No, that's the place where this Spike Worsley was killed.
0:22:57 > 0:23:00- Eddie Chapman's friend?- Well, David Parr said they were close.
0:23:00 > 0:23:04- So?- So, the pub where it happened is just around that corner.
0:23:04 > 0:23:07It must be their local. Of course, there were no witnesses,
0:23:07 > 0:23:10but it was assumed that Worsley was attacked by a rival gang.
0:23:10 > 0:23:14- In their local pub? - Well, just outside, in the car park.
0:23:14 > 0:23:19- But it doesn't seem likely, does it? If he was attacked by a rival gang outside...- That's gang war.
0:23:19 > 0:23:22There would have been more than one casualty. Interesting.
0:23:22 > 0:23:25- Oh! here we go.- Well, that's York.
0:23:25 > 0:23:26Who's that with him?
0:23:26 > 0:23:31That is...Jason Knowles, vice president of the club.
0:23:31 > 0:23:34Previous for armed robbery and assault.
0:23:34 > 0:23:37- Oh, there he is.- Yeah, let's go.
0:23:53 > 0:23:54Reese Chapman?
0:23:56 > 0:24:00Detective Superintendent Pullman, this is Jack Halford. We'd like a word with you.
0:24:00 > 0:24:05- You don't have to talk to these people, Reese.- And you are? - You know exactly who I am.
0:24:05 > 0:24:08Marcus York and Jason Knowles.
0:24:08 > 0:24:11That's better. See, he's not trying to bullshit anyone.
0:24:12 > 0:24:16- You're the one who harassed my friend yesterday. - She thought that was harassment?
0:24:16 > 0:24:19We'd like to ask Reese a few questions about his father's death.
0:24:19 > 0:24:21He doesn't have to talk to you.
0:24:21 > 0:24:24No. But he can make his own mind up, he doesn't need your permission.
0:24:30 > 0:24:32Take them up to the office.
0:24:33 > 0:24:36You'll make up the time, though.
0:24:40 > 0:24:44Don't trust these people, Reese. All right?
0:24:53 > 0:24:56Not sitting at Stephanie's bedside, then?
0:24:56 > 0:25:00Poor girl has 17 stitches in her face. They're feeding her through a straw.
0:25:00 > 0:25:03- Nice boyfriend you are. - She won't see me.- I don't blame her.
0:25:05 > 0:25:06- It's not my fault she's there.- No?
0:25:06 > 0:25:09Whose fault is it, then?
0:25:09 > 0:25:12Where were you on the night that your dad was killed?
0:25:12 > 0:25:14- I was at a party.- Where?
0:25:14 > 0:25:18- Here. There's some sofas over at the back. We hang out here. - Who else was here?
0:25:18 > 0:25:21A bunch of the guys. Marcus and Jason.
0:25:21 > 0:25:25- Jason Knowles, the ex-armed robber? - What time did you leave?- I didn't.
0:25:25 > 0:25:29- I passed out on the floor, woke up the next morning.- Too much cider?
0:25:29 > 0:25:31That's funny. I don't know what I was drinking.
0:25:31 > 0:25:34- Knocked me out, though.- Did your dad try to reach you that night?
0:25:34 > 0:25:38Yeah. I saw the missed calls in the morning,
0:25:38 > 0:25:39but by then it was too late.
0:25:39 > 0:25:41So, who do you think killed him, Reese?
0:25:41 > 0:25:44- I don't know. - But you think you know, don't you?
0:25:44 > 0:25:46It wasn't a rival gang. You can take that from us.
0:25:46 > 0:25:48And why would I do that?
0:25:49 > 0:25:54- Your mum's in a relationship with Marcus York now, isn't she?- Yeah.
0:25:54 > 0:25:58- When did that start? - A couple of months after Dad died.
0:25:58 > 0:26:00- You sure about that? - Yes, I'm sure.
0:26:01 > 0:26:05When you woke up, after that party, was Marcus York still there?
0:26:05 > 0:26:07- No, he'd gone home. - Did you see him leave?
0:26:07 > 0:26:11I didn't see anything. I told you - I passed out.
0:26:11 > 0:26:13All right. Thanks very much.
0:26:13 > 0:26:16- That's it?- We'll be in touch.
0:26:18 > 0:26:20- Is The King's Head your local?- Yeah.
0:26:20 > 0:26:24Spike Worsley was killed there. Did you know him?
0:26:24 > 0:26:27- Yeah. - Do you know who killed him?- No.
0:26:27 > 0:26:29Someone is attacked outside the pub
0:26:29 > 0:26:31and there must have been other people there?
0:26:31 > 0:26:34- No-one saw a thing. - What a surprise!
0:26:34 > 0:26:39We were wondering if there's a connection between that and your father's death.
0:26:39 > 0:26:43- What are you trying to say?- I'm sorry?- What you saying about my dad?
0:26:43 > 0:26:46You trying to say he was one of your lot? Are you saying he was like Worsley?
0:26:46 > 0:26:49- Reese...- What do you mean, "one of our lot"?
0:26:51 > 0:26:54I think your 15 minutes is up, don't you?
0:26:54 > 0:26:58- Did you know Spike Worsley, Mr Knowles?- Never heard of him.
0:26:58 > 0:27:00Really? That's odd, because he was a member of your gang.
0:27:00 > 0:27:02Is that right?
0:27:03 > 0:27:06Sounds to me like he was a member of yours.
0:27:11 > 0:27:15Do you think Sandra's being a bit weird at the moment?
0:27:15 > 0:27:18Brian?
0:27:18 > 0:27:19- Brian!- Hmm?
0:27:19 > 0:27:23I said, "Do you think Sandra's being a bit weird at the moment?"
0:27:23 > 0:27:25What if we're on the wrong track?
0:27:25 > 0:27:27I'm better off talking to myself.
0:27:27 > 0:27:29What if Karen Chapman's affair with Marcus York
0:27:29 > 0:27:34- had nothing to do with Eddie Chapman's death?- What are you looking at?- This Spike Worsley,
0:27:34 > 0:27:38- Eddie Chapman's mate who was killed a few months before Chapman. - Yeah, in the pub.
0:27:38 > 0:27:42- But David Parr told me and Jack that he didn't know anything about it.- So?
0:27:42 > 0:27:46He's on the witness list. He was there when it happened.
0:27:56 > 0:28:00- Ah, Mr Parr. This is Gerry Standing. - Hello.
0:28:00 > 0:28:03- How's Stephanie doing? - I can't talk to you.
0:28:03 > 0:28:07- You said you didn't know what happened to Spike Worsley.- Spike?
0:28:07 > 0:28:10- What's this got to do with him? - You were with him the night he was killed.
0:28:10 > 0:28:15- He left before me. I don't know what happened to him.- He was killed in the car park outside.
0:28:15 > 0:28:18- You must have walked past him on your way out.- It was dark.
0:28:18 > 0:28:20- Who else was there? - I don't remember.
0:28:20 > 0:28:24- Come on! You can do better than that.- No! I can't.
0:28:24 > 0:28:28You see, the official version is that he was killed by a rival gang.
0:28:28 > 0:28:29Much like Eddie Chapman.
0:28:29 > 0:28:33But, if that's the case, then surely there would have been retribution.
0:28:33 > 0:28:37- Which there wasn't.- So maybe it wasn't a rival gang.- I don't know.
0:28:37 > 0:28:39There's an awful lot you don't know, isn't there?
0:28:39 > 0:28:42You don't know who killed Eddie, you don't know who killed Spike,
0:28:42 > 0:28:46- you don't even know who cut your daughter's face to ribbons. - I'm going inside.
0:28:46 > 0:28:51- You know. You're just too scared to talk.- I'll say something.
0:28:51 > 0:28:54You did this. My little girl's in there because she came to you in confidence.
0:28:54 > 0:28:57And this is how you kept her safe.
0:28:59 > 0:29:01I'm going back to see my daughter.
0:29:01 > 0:29:03You leave me alone - both of you!
0:29:06 > 0:29:09Anything I can help you with?
0:29:15 > 0:29:18Do you think the murder of Spike Worsley is related to this somehow?
0:29:20 > 0:29:22- Hello?- Hmm?
0:29:22 > 0:29:23Spike Worsley.
0:29:25 > 0:29:26I don't know.
0:29:26 > 0:29:31If there is a connection, I can't see it yet. Do you think I'm the youngest person in here?
0:29:32 > 0:29:33Yes.
0:29:35 > 0:29:38Jack, do you think I'm wasted at UCOS?
0:29:38 > 0:29:40What kind of a question is that?
0:29:42 > 0:29:45A stupid one. Ignore me.
0:29:45 > 0:29:47- Thank you.- Cheers.
0:29:47 > 0:29:51- I'll have yours.- No, you won't. You're not allowed it. No! - Give it back.
0:29:51 > 0:29:54- Tell him to give me my drink back. - Give him his drink back.
0:29:54 > 0:29:58- He just said I was the brawn of the operation.- He was being kind.
0:29:59 > 0:30:03- There's not a large vodka and tonic, is there?- I'll get you one.
0:30:03 > 0:30:06- It's all right, I'll put it on the tab.- I'll come with you.
0:30:06 > 0:30:08A large one, a bit strong, isn't it?
0:30:08 > 0:30:10How did it go today?
0:30:10 > 0:30:14Double vodka and tonic. Ice and lime. Thanks.
0:30:14 > 0:30:16- Well remembered. - Some people don't change.
0:30:16 > 0:30:18HE LAUGHS
0:30:18 > 0:30:21- Was Spike Worsley an informant?- No.
0:30:21 > 0:30:26- If that's something you don't think we need to know. - No, he wasn't a snout.
0:30:26 > 0:30:29It looks like he was killed because The Braves thought he was.
0:30:31 > 0:30:35A couple of years ago, customs raided a boat coming in from Rotterdam.
0:30:35 > 0:30:37They discovered £2 million worth of cocaine.
0:30:37 > 0:30:43- Being brought in by The Braves? - Yes, although, as usual, we couldn't prove a link to them.
0:30:43 > 0:30:46The bust was blind luck, it was just a random search,
0:30:46 > 0:30:52- but The Braves got it into their head that someone had grassed them up.- On the strength of one bust?
0:30:52 > 0:30:55Marcus York has become very paranoid in his old age.
0:30:55 > 0:30:57He started a witch hunt.
0:30:57 > 0:31:01- And the finger got pointed at Spike Worsley?- So it seems.
0:31:01 > 0:31:06- Like I say, it wasn't him, it was just a random bust. - Do you think Marcus York killed him?
0:31:07 > 0:31:12The order could have come from York, but it's unlikely he would have done it himself.
0:31:12 > 0:31:15Spike Worsley was one of Eddie Chapman's oldest friends.
0:31:15 > 0:31:18He must have been pretty certain that Spike wasn't a grass.
0:31:18 > 0:31:21What if he confronted Marcus York and things got out of hand?
0:31:21 > 0:31:25This is their equivalent of a court of law. The President's word is final.
0:31:25 > 0:31:28Eddie might not have liked it, but he wouldn't have got in the way.
0:31:30 > 0:31:34Wait a minute. The shipment that was seized was from Rotterdam?
0:31:34 > 0:31:38What was the shipment disguised as?
0:31:38 > 0:31:41- It was motorcycle parts, wasn't it? - This is so far out of your remit.
0:31:41 > 0:31:45Eddie Chapman and David Parr were smuggling drugs from Rotterdam
0:31:45 > 0:31:50- for The Braves. Why didn't they get done on that bust?- Cos they're smart. The paperwork goes round in circles.
0:31:50 > 0:31:55Yeah, and you didn't push it because you didn't want to blow your operation.
0:31:55 > 0:31:59You can't use this information. You can't even admit that you know it.
0:31:59 > 0:32:02- You ARE joking? - It's not relevant to your case.
0:32:02 > 0:32:05Eddie got murdered hours after getting back from Rotterdam,
0:32:05 > 0:32:09where, presumably, he was organising a drug shipment. How is that not relevant?
0:32:09 > 0:32:14If Eddie was killed because of some kind of double-cross over drugs, York would have killed Parr too.
0:32:14 > 0:32:18But he didn't, David Parr is still very much alive.
0:32:18 > 0:32:21- Yeah, and still bringing in the drugs?- Yup.
0:32:22 > 0:32:27You've got to investigate this case, for appearance's sake now that Stephanie Parr is in hospital.
0:32:27 > 0:32:31- But...- But we'll never get enough on Marcus York to make an arrest.
0:32:32 > 0:32:34Not in a million years!
0:32:41 > 0:32:43Are we the youngest in this pub?
0:32:47 > 0:32:51- Morning.- Morning.- Forensics from Stephanie Parr's flat.
0:32:51 > 0:32:53- Not our case, Gerry. - But it tells us who attacked her.
0:32:53 > 0:32:58- Although there's no way to prove it. - Well, that doesn't surprise me. All right, let's hear it.
0:32:58 > 0:33:03Ah, there's a ton of fingerprints and hair samples all over the place, David Parr, obviously,
0:33:03 > 0:33:07Reese Chapman, Karen Chapman, Marcus York, Jason Knowles, Carl B...
0:33:07 > 0:33:13Basically anyone who was in The Braves. They even found a partial of Eddie Chapman.
0:33:13 > 0:33:16- Which tells you something about Stephanie's housekeeping.- So?
0:33:16 > 0:33:23Well, whoever cut Stephanie's face grabbed a handful of hair to keep her head steady.
0:33:23 > 0:33:26They found flakes of nail varnish in her scalp.
0:33:26 > 0:33:29What colour?
0:33:30 > 0:33:34- Nice varnish.- Thanks.- Same colour we found in Stephanie Parr's hair.
0:33:34 > 0:33:38- It's a very common brand. - Yes, but not one she uses.
0:33:38 > 0:33:41Never say never. She'll need all the help she can get now.
0:33:41 > 0:33:42We know it was you.
0:33:42 > 0:33:44I don't know what you're talking about.
0:33:44 > 0:33:47Who told you Stephanie came to see us?
0:33:48 > 0:33:52I'd call my lawyer, but he's very expensive and I don't think you're worth it.
0:33:52 > 0:33:56- Unless Stephanie Parr talks. - Is that likely, do you think?
0:33:56 > 0:34:01What'll your son say when he finds out you did that to his girlfriend?
0:34:01 > 0:34:06Ex-girlfriend, I suspect. She's not going to stick around now the going's got tough.
0:34:06 > 0:34:12You've just done a very stupid thing. This case was hanging by a thread, I was going to walk away.
0:34:12 > 0:34:16Call your lawyer and tell him he's about to make a lot of money out of you and your boyfriend.
0:34:17 > 0:34:21- We haven't got anything. - I know we don't have anything, Jack.
0:34:21 > 0:34:25- So that was an idle threat you just made to Karen Chapman. - We need to find something, don't we?
0:34:25 > 0:34:29That's the same problem that everyone's had when they tried to nick Marcus York.
0:34:29 > 0:34:33- The bloke's made out of Teflon. - We can't tie him into the murder of Spike Worsley,
0:34:33 > 0:34:36we can't prove Karen Chapman attacked Stephanie Parr.
0:34:36 > 0:34:40We can't use what we know about David Parr's drug smuggling, to make him talk,
0:34:40 > 0:34:43because we can't let him know we know.
0:34:43 > 0:34:48- Yeah, that's all stick, though. Maybe we need a bit of carrot. - What do you mean?
0:34:48 > 0:34:52Well, nobody'll talk because they're scared of what The Braves will do to them.
0:34:52 > 0:34:57We need someone who stands to gain by Marcus York being put behind bars.
0:34:57 > 0:35:00Thanks for coming in, Mr Knowles, however reluctantly.
0:35:00 > 0:35:03As you know, we're investigating the murder of Eddie Chapman.
0:35:03 > 0:35:08Yeah, we understand you were at a party the night Eddie Chapman was murdered. Is that right?
0:35:09 > 0:35:13Reese Chapman was there and Marcus York.
0:35:14 > 0:35:17This conversation isn't being recorded.
0:35:17 > 0:35:20We think Marcus York killed Eddie Chapman.
0:35:23 > 0:35:28Marcus was having an affair with Karen Chapman. Did you know that?
0:35:28 > 0:35:32We think that Eddie found out about it, confronted him and then Marcus killed him.
0:35:32 > 0:35:36That couldn't have happened if Marcus York was at a party with you at the time.
0:35:36 > 0:35:40But if he wasn't there, or if he left early.
0:35:41 > 0:35:44UCOS doesn't care what you've done, or might do in the future.
0:35:44 > 0:35:48We're only interested in the murder of Eddie Chapman.
0:35:48 > 0:35:53And if Marcus York gets nicked for it, leaves a vacancy at the top, doesn't it?
0:35:53 > 0:35:56You are vice-president after all.
0:35:57 > 0:36:01Are you really that loyal to a man like Marcus York?
0:36:01 > 0:36:05Are you really that happy to take orders from him when you could be running the show?
0:36:05 > 0:36:10Maybe you're just scared of what might happen if someone finds out that you talked to the police.
0:36:10 > 0:36:14- Is that it? - Of course, no-one knows what's happening in this room.
0:36:14 > 0:36:17Who's to say you're not spilling your guts?
0:36:17 > 0:36:22Yeah, and if a rumour like that gets out, you could end up like Stephanie Parr.
0:36:22 > 0:36:24Or Spike Worsley.
0:36:27 > 0:36:30Honestly, I've never seen anything like it.
0:36:30 > 0:36:34- Everyone says something, eventually, don't they?- Apparently not.
0:36:34 > 0:36:37So where does that leave us?
0:36:37 > 0:36:39Can I have a word?
0:36:49 > 0:36:53- Jason Knowles.- What about him? - You brought him in. You didn't think to check with me?
0:36:53 > 0:36:57- He's being interviewed in our investigation.- The Vice-President of The Braves.
0:36:57 > 0:37:01He was at the party Marcus York claimed to be at on the night Eddie Chapman was killed.
0:37:01 > 0:37:05- How did you know we were talking to Knowles?- He started a fight with some uniforms
0:37:05 > 0:37:08when you tried to arrest him. I'm surprised it wasn't on the bloody news!
0:37:08 > 0:37:12- That doesn't give you the right to come in here shouting. - We're treading a fine line here.
0:37:12 > 0:37:15- I'm trying to give you leeway. - Not treading on your toes.
0:37:15 > 0:37:19- I'm just saying if you want to... - No, no, no, I'm not stupid.
0:37:19 > 0:37:23I know what the boundaries are and I'm not treading on your toes.
0:37:30 > 0:37:32Stuart?
0:37:34 > 0:37:37Why haven't you asked what Jason Knowles said to us?
0:37:40 > 0:37:42It's cos you already know, isn't it?
0:37:47 > 0:37:52And that's why he's back on the streets five hours after assaulting three coppers.
0:38:05 > 0:38:08The Vice-President of The Braves is a police informant.
0:38:08 > 0:38:11- Jason Knowles?- Bloody Hell.
0:38:11 > 0:38:16He picked up the phone as soon as he was released and told Stuart that Marcus York left the party
0:38:16 > 0:38:19just after ten o'clock and didn't come back in.
0:38:19 > 0:38:22Well, that blows York's alibi out the window.
0:38:22 > 0:38:25We can't use that without compromising Knowles, can we?
0:38:25 > 0:38:29- No, we need to get it from someone else.- Who?- Reese Chapman.
0:38:29 > 0:38:34- How will you get it from him? - We'll tell him everything we know. - That's dangerous.
0:38:34 > 0:38:38If it doesn't work, we'll be letting a very angry young man walk out of here.
0:38:38 > 0:38:40Then it had better work, Jack.
0:38:40 > 0:38:44It was your mother who attacked Stephanie and cut her face.
0:38:45 > 0:38:51That bit of news hadn't got to you, I'm surprised. She doesn't seem too bothered about hiding it.
0:38:51 > 0:38:54- And she said you'd be on her side. - I'm not talking to you.
0:38:54 > 0:38:57You are, cos I'm not playing that game again today.
0:38:57 > 0:39:00Have you any idea why she might have done that to Stephanie, Reese?
0:39:00 > 0:39:06Stephanie said that she saw your mum and Marcus York, coming out of a hotel room
0:39:06 > 0:39:08- in the middle of the night.- The two of them.
0:39:08 > 0:39:11A month before your father was killed. What do you think that means?
0:39:11 > 0:39:15- That's not true.- Really? So Stephanie's lying? Wow!
0:39:15 > 0:39:18She took quite a big risk coming here just to tell us a lie.
0:39:18 > 0:39:23- And she paid for it. - She certainly did, when someone told your mother about it.
0:39:23 > 0:39:28I wonder why it was such a big deal? People have affairs all the time.
0:39:28 > 0:39:31Yeah, after it came out, your father was no longer around, anyway.
0:39:31 > 0:39:34- Unless it came out before.- Before?
0:39:34 > 0:39:39- You think Eddie could have found out?- Maybe that's what he was talking about that night.
0:39:39 > 0:39:41- What night?- The night he died.
0:39:41 > 0:39:45Stephanie said that he came round to her flat, looking for you, Reese.
0:39:45 > 0:39:49She said he was angry, upset and kept muttering about loyalty and...
0:39:49 > 0:39:53- What was the other thing?- Betrayal? - Betrayal. Yeah, that's right.
0:39:53 > 0:39:57- He needed to talk to you about something.- Something important.
0:39:57 > 0:39:59That's why he kept calling.
0:39:59 > 0:40:01But you were at a party and couldn't hear your phone.
0:40:01 > 0:40:07So he wandered out into the night, your Dad. Angry, drunk, confused.
0:40:07 > 0:40:10- Betrayed.- And that was the last anyone saw of him.
0:40:10 > 0:40:15- Well, almost anyone.- That's true. One person saw him after that.
0:40:17 > 0:40:21Marcus York was at that party with you, wasn't he?
0:40:21 > 0:40:26- Yeah.- Was he?- Yes. - All night?- I passed out.
0:40:26 > 0:40:29But up to that point Marcus York was with you?
0:40:29 > 0:40:32- He went out to get some air. - What time?- I don't know.
0:40:32 > 0:40:38- He just went outside for a few minutes.- A minute? Five minutes? How long?- I don't know. A few minutes.
0:40:38 > 0:40:42I went out there, I saw him leaning against the wall. He looked rough, he said he just needed some air.
0:40:42 > 0:40:45Did you see him come back in?
0:40:45 > 0:40:47I went in, he said he'd be right behind me.
0:40:47 > 0:40:51Reese? Think. Did Marcus York come back into that party?
0:40:55 > 0:40:58No.
0:40:58 > 0:41:00LOUD MUSIC
0:41:00 > 0:41:02Marcus, leave him alone!
0:41:02 > 0:41:05Get off your hands off him. Get your hands off him!
0:41:05 > 0:41:07Get your hands off him! Marcus!
0:41:10 > 0:41:12Get off me! Get off me!
0:41:15 > 0:41:20- I went outside for some air. - Because you were feeling ill.- Yeah.
0:41:20 > 0:41:24- How long were you outside? - I don't know. A few minutes.
0:41:24 > 0:41:29- And then you went back in, did you? - Yeah.- Did anyone see you go back in?
0:41:29 > 0:41:34- Who did you talk to?- I don't know. It was a party. I was drunk.
0:41:34 > 0:41:38- We spoke to someone else at the party who said you didn't go back inside. - Who was that?
0:41:38 > 0:41:40That's not important.
0:41:41 > 0:41:44Young Reese been telling tales, has he?
0:41:44 > 0:41:48- When did your relationship with Karen Chapman start?- You want dates and times? I don't know.
0:41:48 > 0:41:51- Was it before or after Eddie was killed?- After.
0:41:51 > 0:41:56But you were seen at a hotel together a month before he died.
0:41:56 > 0:41:59- Another one of your mystery witnesses?- Look at his hand.
0:41:59 > 0:42:00- What is that?- I don't know.
0:42:00 > 0:42:04Eddie Chapman found out about it, didn't he?
0:42:04 > 0:42:08- I need a glass of water.- Did he confront you?- We know he was angry and he'd been drinking.
0:42:08 > 0:42:12- It makes sense that he could have been the aggressor. Was it self-defence?- Water.
0:42:12 > 0:42:16- What happened?- Nothing! - Eddie Chapman confronted you about the affair,
0:42:16 > 0:42:20- you were both drunk and it turned violent. Who threw the first punch? - No-one!
0:42:20 > 0:42:22Piss off.
0:42:22 > 0:42:25ALARM BLARES
0:42:28 > 0:42:30What's wrong with him?
0:42:30 > 0:42:32Call an ambulance!
0:42:32 > 0:42:35His hand was trembling in the interview.
0:42:35 > 0:42:38It was doing the same thing when we met him at that motorbike place.
0:42:38 > 0:42:41That's got to be a neurological thing, hasn't it?
0:42:41 > 0:42:43What's the betting his lawyer tries to blame it on us?
0:42:43 > 0:42:49He's upstairs having his jaw wired up, so we don't have to worry about him for a while.
0:42:51 > 0:42:55- You're never going to believe this. MS.- Multiple sclerosis?
0:42:55 > 0:43:00He was diagnosed about 18 months ago. It may not be fatal, but it's getting progressively worse.
0:43:00 > 0:43:03- Did anybody know?- Yeah, and this is the real kick in the teeth.
0:43:03 > 0:43:07Karen Chapman brought Marcus York into Whittington Hospital A&E
0:43:07 > 0:43:12at 10.37pm on 20th December 2009.
0:43:12 > 0:43:14- The 20th? - The night Eddie Chapman was killed.
0:43:14 > 0:43:18According to a medical report, York had been at a party and gone outside for some air.
0:43:18 > 0:43:23He was feeling a bit light-headed and realised he was in the early stages of a seizure,
0:43:23 > 0:43:27similar to the one that we've just witnessed. He called up Karen and got her to take him to the hospital.
0:43:27 > 0:43:30That's why he didn't go back into the party.
0:43:30 > 0:43:35The reason he claimed he had is because he didn't want anybody to find out where he really was.
0:43:35 > 0:43:40- I don't suppose there's any chance that afterwards...- No, he was kept in overnight and Karen was with him.
0:43:40 > 0:43:43- And that's his real alibi. - And it's watertight.
0:43:43 > 0:43:45We've been after the wrong guy.
0:43:45 > 0:43:47- It's not the end of the world. - Thank you, Gerry.
0:43:47 > 0:43:50- Someone killed Chapman. - Just not Marcus York.
0:43:50 > 0:43:55How can the pieces fit together so well and yet the picture they make is so wrong?
0:43:55 > 0:44:00We were probably punching above our weight going after Marcus York in the first place.
0:44:00 > 0:44:02Let Barlow's lot deal with him.
0:44:03 > 0:44:08- What?- Punching above our weight? - Yeah. well, no...
0:44:08 > 0:44:10What I mean is, if...
0:44:16 > 0:44:19- Sandra?- See you in the morning.
0:44:25 > 0:44:27What was that about?
0:44:27 > 0:44:31As if I ever know the answer to that question.
0:44:31 > 0:44:33Sandra?
0:44:35 > 0:44:40Stuart told me that all I'm doing is cleaning up the mess left by detectives who aren't as good as me.
0:44:40 > 0:44:42- Well, that's not true.- No?- No.
0:44:42 > 0:44:46Sometimes we clear up the mess left by detectives who are better than you.
0:44:46 > 0:44:50- Everybody makes mistakes. - And we clean them up.- When we can.
0:44:50 > 0:44:54- I should be out there, Jack.- Doing something important?- No, that's...
0:44:54 > 0:44:58Look, I don't give a stuff what Stuart Barlow or anybody else thinks about UCOS
0:44:58 > 0:45:02but giving unsolved cases another go round IS important.
0:45:02 > 0:45:06If you want to leave because it isn't exciting or glamorous enough...
0:45:06 > 0:45:09- I'm not saying that. - Or you're bored to death with three retired detectives
0:45:09 > 0:45:13who moan about everything and drink tea all day long, fair enough.
0:45:13 > 0:45:16But don't think for one second...
0:45:18 > 0:45:22You are a good detective, Sandra, but nobody is too good for this job.
0:45:26 > 0:45:29- Where are you two going? - Home.- Pub. Coming?
0:45:29 > 0:45:32No, I'm not and neither are you. We're going to work out who killed Eddie Chapman.
0:45:32 > 0:45:35- You're not serious? - Yes, I'm serious.
0:45:35 > 0:45:38Punching above our weight, are we? We'll see about that!
0:45:41 > 0:45:47Hi, Stuart, it's Sandra Pullman. I just wanted you to know we've struck out on the Chapman case.
0:45:47 > 0:45:50We're going to drop it, so it's over to you now.
0:45:50 > 0:45:53Give me a call if you want. OK, cheers. Bye.
0:46:08 > 0:46:10This is on you.
0:46:10 > 0:46:12Look what they did to me.
0:46:13 > 0:46:15Now it's your turn.
0:46:15 > 0:46:18Jack, this is ridiculous. There is no evidence here.
0:46:18 > 0:46:23It's not that there isn't any to be found, it's just that we haven't found it.
0:46:23 > 0:46:27Sandra was right, the pieces of this puzzle fit together perfectly.
0:46:27 > 0:46:32Everything points to Marcus York killing Eddie Chapman, but we all know he couldn't have.
0:46:32 > 0:46:38- If he didn't, then York's affair with Karen Chapman had nothing to do with Eddie Chapman's death.- Yes.
0:46:38 > 0:46:41So why did Karen attack Stephanie because she told us?
0:46:41 > 0:46:45Well, it's like Barlow said, it's a punishment.
0:46:45 > 0:46:49I mean, as far as this lot's concerned, you just do not talk to the police, full stop.
0:46:51 > 0:46:55Stephanie's lucky she didn't, she didn't turn out like...
0:46:56 > 0:46:59- Like who?- Like Spike Worsley!
0:47:00 > 0:47:04- He was killed because The Braves thought he was an informant.- So?
0:47:04 > 0:47:08Well, this is, what, a month before Eddie Chapman died.
0:47:08 > 0:47:13- Remember the date? - Yeah, the 17th November, just around 11 o'clock at night.
0:47:13 > 0:47:16- Have you got Stephanie's statement? - What have you got, Brian?
0:47:16 > 0:47:23You remember Stephanie claimed she saw Marcus York and Karen Chapman together in the hotel that night.
0:47:23 > 0:47:24What's the date?
0:47:26 > 0:47:30- November the 17th, so Marcus York couldn't have killed Spike Worsley either.- No.
0:47:30 > 0:47:35How can we be making progress by finding more people that Marcus York didn't kill?
0:47:35 > 0:47:40Because we shouldn't be looking for the "who", Jack, we need to find out the "why".
0:47:40 > 0:47:45- Why was Spike Worsely killed?- Because The Braves thought he was a snout.
0:47:45 > 0:47:48- But he wasn't. - No, but Jason Knowles was!
0:47:48 > 0:47:51Now Eddie Chapman knew that Spike Worsley was innocent,
0:47:51 > 0:47:55so what if he set out on his own to find the real informant?
0:47:55 > 0:47:59- What and found out it was Knowles? - Yeah, and that's why Chapman was lambing off at Stephanie
0:47:59 > 0:48:01about loyalty and betrayal.
0:48:01 > 0:48:04Maybe it was Knowles who pointed the finger at Spike Worsley in the first place.
0:48:04 > 0:48:08To divert suspicion from himself.
0:48:08 > 0:48:12Now, David Parr was there the night Spike Worsley died.
0:48:12 > 0:48:17- We need to find out what he saw and what he heard.- Right.- Come on then.
0:48:17 > 0:48:21- OK, Reese, you don't want to do this. - You destroyed my life.
0:48:21 > 0:48:24No, I didn't. Your father was murdered.
0:48:24 > 0:48:28Your mother put your girlfriend in hospital and looking at that acid burn where your tattoo was,
0:48:28 > 0:48:33- you've been thrown out the club. - I don't care about any of that. - What, then? Stephanie?
0:48:33 > 0:48:34MOBILE RINGS
0:48:34 > 0:48:36Ignore it.
0:48:42 > 0:48:45There goes the cavalry.
0:48:46 > 0:48:51- You're pointing a gun because your girlfriend won't talk to you?- She was the only thing that mattered.
0:48:51 > 0:48:54- Why aren't you at the hospital telling her that? - Because she won't even see me.
0:48:54 > 0:48:57Can you blame her?
0:48:57 > 0:49:02- No. No, I blame you. You were supposed to protect her.- And I did.
0:49:02 > 0:49:07I don't know how her name got out and I'm sorry. Let's not forget it was your mother that put her in hospital.
0:49:07 > 0:49:09Reese. Reese, listen, put the gun down.
0:49:09 > 0:49:13- You've got a bad chemical burn on your arm, let me get you medical attention.- No.
0:49:13 > 0:49:17Put the gun down and we'll step outside, take a few breaths, and...
0:49:20 > 0:49:23- You went outside! - What are you talking about?
0:49:24 > 0:49:28- At the party. - I don't care about any of that. - Yes, yes, you do.
0:49:28 > 0:49:31- You said that you saw Marcus York when you went outside.- Yeah.
0:49:31 > 0:49:35- Why did you go outside? - Is this really how you want to spend your last few seconds?
0:49:35 > 0:49:37- It was noisy, there was music playing.- So?
0:49:37 > 0:49:41You said your father tried to call but didn't get through. That wasn't true, was it?
0:49:41 > 0:49:46You went outside to take the call. You spoke to him.
0:49:46 > 0:49:48Why didn't you tell us?
0:49:48 > 0:49:51- Because we don't talk to cops. - Oh, grow up!
0:49:53 > 0:49:55What did he say?
0:49:56 > 0:49:59- He wasn't making any sense. - What did he say?
0:49:59 > 0:50:04He was drunk, he was raving. He kept saying it wasn't Spike, over and over again.
0:50:04 > 0:50:07- He said he knew who it was. - He knew who the informant was.
0:50:07 > 0:50:12He said he wanted me to meet him, he said he needed my help. I didn't help him. I thought he was...
0:50:12 > 0:50:19It's my fault. My dad, Stephanie, I didn't help them. I wasn't there for them.
0:50:19 > 0:50:23- I lost them both because I didn't... - Oh, stop whining!
0:50:24 > 0:50:27How many more times? I've got nothing to say to you.
0:50:27 > 0:50:31- Who killed Spike Worsley?- I don't know.- Yes, you do. You were there.
0:50:31 > 0:50:35- He left before.- No he didn't. Who killed him, Mr Parr?
0:50:35 > 0:50:38- Was it Jason Knowles? - I've got nothing to say to you!
0:50:38 > 0:50:42- I just want to be with my daughter. - Dad?- Get back into bed, Steph.
0:50:42 > 0:50:44Why don't you just leave us alone?
0:50:44 > 0:50:49Well, if you won't talk to us, then maybe you'll talk to the drugs squad.
0:50:49 > 0:50:54We know you smuggle drugs in from Rotterdam for The Braves.
0:50:54 > 0:50:59The paper trail's tricky to follow, but I'm sure we could get there if we applied ourselves.
0:50:59 > 0:51:03- Dad?- Go back inside!- Is that true?
0:51:03 > 0:51:05Presumably it was Eddie Chapman's idea originally.
0:51:05 > 0:51:10Then, when he was killed, The Braves wouldn't have wanted to lose their arrangement.
0:51:10 > 0:51:14So what did they threaten you with? Kill you? Kill Stephanie?
0:51:15 > 0:51:17Dad?
0:51:18 > 0:51:25- I want a lawyer. - Listen, you talk to us about Spike Worsley, you won't need one.- No.
0:51:25 > 0:51:28Whatever you threaten me with, it's nothing compared to...
0:51:28 > 0:51:31- It was Karen Chapman who attacked me.- No, Stephanie!
0:51:31 > 0:51:34- I'll make a statement.- No! - I'll stand up in court.
0:51:34 > 0:51:36I want those animals out of our lives.
0:51:36 > 0:51:41And I want Reese to know what really happened to his dad so he can get away from them.
0:51:41 > 0:51:44I don't want us all to be frightened any more.
0:51:46 > 0:51:49Tell them what happened.
0:51:56 > 0:51:58Oh, right.
0:51:59 > 0:52:02Knowles killed Spike. He was the grass.
0:52:05 > 0:52:09He said he'd kill Stephanie if anybody found out.
0:52:09 > 0:52:12But Eddie did. Eddie found out all about him.
0:52:13 > 0:52:16And I warned Knowles, to protect my daughter.
0:52:16 > 0:52:19I got my best friend killed.
0:52:22 > 0:52:24What's happened to you?
0:52:24 > 0:52:28- Reese Chapman happened. - Are you all right?- Yeah, I'm fine.
0:52:28 > 0:52:31He's not, though, I broke his nose. He's upstairs making a statement.
0:52:31 > 0:52:35- Eddie Chapman was killed by Jason Knowles.- Yes, we know.
0:52:35 > 0:52:37He killed Spike Worsley too, under orders from York.
0:52:37 > 0:52:42David Parr saw it happen. He'll make a statement.
0:52:42 > 0:52:47I've been sitting here wondering what to do about Knowles. I mean, he's committed two murders,
0:52:47 > 0:52:50and yet if we nick him then Stuart looses his informant.
0:52:50 > 0:52:55Two murders. It hardly puts him in the big league as far as Marcus York and the like are concerned.
0:52:55 > 0:52:58We can't get York, but we can get Knowles.
0:52:58 > 0:53:03- And you're talking about letting it go?!- For the greater good.- Is it?
0:53:03 > 0:53:08Jack, the murder of two particularly nasty gang members set against the possibility
0:53:08 > 0:53:12that Knowles could help Barlow bring down an entire criminal organisation.
0:53:12 > 0:53:14- And then what else do we turn a blind eye to?- Exactly.
0:53:14 > 0:53:17No, I'm not taking sides here, I'm just going round in circles.
0:53:17 > 0:53:21When Barlow's lot move in, Knowles will get done for the murders anyway.
0:53:21 > 0:53:26He'll set them against all the information he's provided and walk away scot free.
0:53:26 > 0:53:31I still think that's a small price to pay to get rid of The Braves AND their European contacts.
0:53:31 > 0:53:33We need to get Strickland in on this.
0:53:39 > 0:53:42How did you get David Parr to talk?
0:53:43 > 0:53:45You didn't tell him we know about the drugs?
0:53:46 > 0:53:48Brian?
0:53:50 > 0:53:53Christ, Brian. What if it hadn't worked?
0:53:53 > 0:53:57Parr could have gone straight to The Braves and Stuart's operation would be up the spout!
0:53:57 > 0:53:59It is up the spout.
0:53:59 > 0:54:04And the dilemma about whether we let Jason Knowles off or not isn't a dilemma any more.
0:54:04 > 0:54:06Well, what does that mean?
0:54:06 > 0:54:14April 6th, 2001, Jason Knowles participated in an armed robbery of a security van in the Old Kent Road.
0:54:14 > 0:54:16- So?- There was no such robbery.
0:54:16 > 0:54:19It's on his file, Brian. He's got a criminal record.
0:54:19 > 0:54:23It didn't happen and neither did any of these assaults he was charged with.
0:54:23 > 0:54:29- What are you talking about, Brian? - They're all...they're all on the record but they're not in here.
0:54:29 > 0:54:32I have no memory of them. So I've just been checking it out.
0:54:32 > 0:54:38The judge who supposedly tried the armed robbery case was presiding over a fraud trial at the time,
0:54:38 > 0:54:43- in a completely different court. - Are you saying that the records have been doctored?
0:54:44 > 0:54:46Oh, no.
0:54:46 > 0:54:49I think you do need to talk to Strickland.
0:54:50 > 0:54:56- I keep doing that and nothing happens.- Click on the icon. - Which icon?- That one, there.
0:54:56 > 0:55:00- Proper night owls, you lot, aren't you?- Yeah, yeah. That's us, yeah.
0:55:00 > 0:55:04- What's going on?- Uh, I think they're waiting for you, Stuart.
0:55:04 > 0:55:05This can't be good.
0:55:14 > 0:55:15Close the door, Stuart.
0:55:18 > 0:55:21This looks serious.
0:55:21 > 0:55:23- Jason Knowles.- What about him?
0:55:23 > 0:55:25He killed Eddie Chapman.
0:55:26 > 0:55:29- No, he didn't. - And he killed Spike Worsley.
0:55:29 > 0:55:33- Look, Jack, please! - We have a witness.- David Parr.
0:55:35 > 0:55:41- David Parr, the drug smuggler? He's having you on.- No.
0:55:41 > 0:55:46- It's not possible.- Why not, Stuart? - It's just not possible.
0:55:46 > 0:55:50It's not possible, because Jason Knowles isn't merely an informant, is he?
0:55:50 > 0:55:53He's an undercover police officer.
0:56:02 > 0:56:04- You certain he did this?- Yeah.
0:56:04 > 0:56:11Following Spike Worsley's death, Eddie Chapman discovered the truth about Jason Knowles.
0:56:11 > 0:56:14- How?- That's what Chapman was doing in Rotterdam.
0:56:14 > 0:56:19Your joint operation with the Dutch Police. You share information.
0:56:19 > 0:56:21Someone over there leaked it or sold it.
0:56:22 > 0:56:25Eddie told David Parr what he'd discovered.
0:56:25 > 0:56:31Parr warned Knowles, because Knowles told him he would kill Stephanie if anyone found out.
0:56:31 > 0:56:33Did you know about this, Stuart?
0:56:35 > 0:56:38No. No, I didn't.
0:56:41 > 0:56:43I told Jason about Stephanie.
0:56:44 > 0:56:49When she first came to see you. I...told him.
0:56:51 > 0:56:53He was one of us.
0:56:54 > 0:56:59At some point, I'm afraid, he became one of them.
0:56:59 > 0:57:03You understand that this means your operation is fatally compromised.
0:57:03 > 0:57:09- Yeah.- And there'll almost certainly be an enquiry.- Yeah.
0:57:09 > 0:57:13No-one wants to believe you had knowledge of any of this.
0:57:13 > 0:57:17- Happened on my watch, though. - Yes, yes, it did.
0:57:24 > 0:57:26Good job.
0:57:38 > 0:57:40Yeah, cheers, mate. Ta-ra.
0:57:40 > 0:57:43Karen Chapman was arrested 20 minutes ago.
0:57:43 > 0:57:48Apparently she went nuts, it took five wooden tops to restrain her.
0:57:48 > 0:57:51- That's a happy ending of sorts. - Not for Stuart Barlow, it isn't.
0:57:51 > 0:57:53Even the best of us make mistakes, Sandra.
0:57:53 > 0:57:57I'm just glad we were here to clear up the mess!
0:58:00 > 0:58:02# It's all right It's OK
0:58:02 > 0:58:05# Doesn't really matter if you're old and grey
0:58:05 > 0:58:08# It's all right, I say, it's OK
0:58:08 > 0:58:10# Listen to what I say
0:58:11 > 0:58:13# It's all right, you're doing fine
0:58:13 > 0:58:16# It doesn't really matter if the sun don't shine
0:58:16 > 0:58:19# It's all right, I say, it's OK
0:58:19 > 0:58:21# We're getting to the end of the day. #
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