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0:00:00 > 0:00:02- Wales, land of song and legends.

0:00:03 > 0:00:06- Land of heroes and villains, - of dragons and giants.

0:00:06 > 0:00:09- Of rich tales - and mythological stories.

0:00:10 > 0:00:14- Bendigeidfran and King Arthur, - Blodeuwedd and Branwen...

0:00:14 > 0:00:17- ..Matholwch and... - Dic Deryn and Magi Post?

0:00:20 > 0:00:24- Welcome to Cwmderi, where Wales's - most legendary characters...

0:00:24 > 0:00:25- ..now live.

0:00:25 > 0:00:30- We've asked you, the viewers, - to find out which residents...

0:00:30 > 0:00:35- ..deserve to be named the series' - most iconic characters.

0:00:35 > 0:00:39- We've been up and down the country, - from one festival to another...

0:00:39 > 0:00:42- ..asking who the biggest ledge is.

0:00:42 > 0:00:43- Garry.

0:00:43 > 0:00:44- Garry.- - Mr Tushingham.

0:00:45 > 0:00:46- Harri Parri.

0:00:46 > 0:00:48- Harri Parri.- - Dai Sgaffalde.

0:00:48 > 0:00:50- Magi Post.

0:00:50 > 0:00:52- I'm showing my age.

0:00:52 > 0:00:55- And we've finally created - a top ten list.

0:00:56 > 0:00:58- And the best is yet to come.

0:00:58 > 0:01:00- Hey, this is interesting.

0:01:00 > 0:01:02- Hey, this is interesting.- - Shush, shush.

0:01:02 > 0:01:06- And as a fan of the series, I, - Huw Stephens, have the honour...

0:01:06 > 0:01:08- ..of leading you through the list.

0:01:08 > 0:01:10- So, here we go...

0:01:10 > 0:01:14- ..let's find out who has made - the top ten of Cwmderi's greats.

0:01:14 > 0:01:17- And Number 10 is a couple. - Reg and Megan.

0:01:18 > 0:01:20- Reg was a ledge.

0:01:20 > 0:01:22- Reg was a ledge.- - Reg the ledge!

0:01:22 > 0:01:26- The important thing is that we get - through it and Gareth Wyn is fine.

0:01:26 > 0:01:30- 'We were both there at - the very start, weren't we?'

0:01:30 > 0:01:34- We were friends, although we didn't - know each other at the start.

0:01:34 > 0:01:36- Reg was Megan's second husband.

0:01:37 > 0:01:40- 'She thought the world of him - but she teased him too.

0:01:40 > 0:01:41- 'Two children.

0:01:42 > 0:01:45- 'Gareth Wyn was adopted.

0:01:45 > 0:01:49- 'From his early teens - until his A-levels, I think...'

0:01:49 > 0:01:51- ..was Ioan... Ioan Gruffudd.

0:01:52 > 0:01:54- 'He was a very sweet boy.

0:01:54 > 0:01:58- 'I think he learned quite a lot - from Huw and I.

0:01:58 > 0:02:00- 'Where is he today?'

0:02:00 > 0:02:05- I've got one mother and one father - and they both live in Cwmderi.

0:02:08 > 0:02:10- If you say so.

0:02:10 > 0:02:12- Megan, are you there?

0:02:12 > 0:02:14- Yes. Yes, Reg.

0:02:14 > 0:02:18- 'So many important people - have acted in Pobol y Cwm...'

0:02:18 > 0:02:22- ..and so many friends have - left us, unfortunately...

0:02:22 > 0:02:25- ..but I have to talk about - Huw Ceredig - Reg.

0:02:25 > 0:02:29- He was very professional and I - enjoyed coming in every day...

0:02:29 > 0:02:32- ..knowing I was doing a scene - with him.

0:02:32 > 0:02:35- We didn't have much hope - from the start, did we?

0:02:35 > 0:02:38- 'There was a strength - to his character...'

0:02:38 > 0:02:41- ..and that made a big - impression on people.

0:02:41 > 0:02:44- Everyone respected his character.

0:02:44 > 0:02:49- I don't think they've found - a character like him yet.

0:02:50 > 0:02:54- I'm a big fan of Megan. - This was a big moment in my life.

0:02:54 > 0:02:56- Meeting Megan.

0:02:57 > 0:03:01- But after a divorce and working - too many shifts in the Deri...

0:03:01 > 0:03:03- ..Reg died in 2003.

0:03:03 > 0:03:06- They had separated...

0:03:06 > 0:03:08- ..unfortunately.

0:03:08 > 0:03:11- But there we are, - he is sorely missed.

0:03:12 > 0:03:16- Reg, because he came back, - didn't he?

0:03:16 > 0:03:19- He walked down the street as - a ghost during his funeral.

0:03:23 > 0:03:26- So there we are, - Megan and Reg Harries...

0:03:26 > 0:03:28- ..the unforgettable characters - at Number 10.

0:03:30 > 0:03:32- Next, Number 9 on the list.

0:03:33 > 0:03:34- Dic Deryn.

0:03:35 > 0:03:38- He was excellent. A real character - who got up to all sorts.

0:03:39 > 0:03:40- You have to calm down.

0:03:41 > 0:03:44- Yeah, but I wouldn't be - Dic Deryn then.

0:03:44 > 0:03:46- I can't be anyone else.

0:03:46 > 0:03:48- 'I think Dic was very lucky...'

0:03:48 > 0:03:52- ..in terms of the people who - came up with his stories...

0:03:52 > 0:03:54- ..and the writers.

0:03:54 > 0:03:58- I think the things Dic did - embodied the fantasies...

0:03:58 > 0:04:01- ..of an awful lot of authors...

0:04:01 > 0:04:04- ..and script writers.

0:04:04 > 0:04:09- 'He just deceived everyone - and he was a bit of a ladies man.'

0:04:10 > 0:04:14- You weren't woman enough to hold - on to him. You know that's true!

0:04:15 > 0:04:19- Years ago, when Dic Deryn - came back from the Falklands...

0:04:19 > 0:04:23- ..he went to the post office, - and twirled Magi Post around.

0:04:27 > 0:04:29- Well, you look well!

0:04:29 > 0:04:34- 'After becoming familiar with the - system of making Pobol y Cwm...

0:04:35 > 0:04:37- '..I think Dic Deryn - may have been...

0:04:38 > 0:04:41- '..one of the easiest characters - I've ever played.'

0:04:44 > 0:04:46- Number 8 next, and a fairly - recent character.

0:04:47 > 0:04:51- Sioned from the shop because - she brings so much excitement.

0:04:51 > 0:04:53- I like Sioned because she's pretty.

0:04:54 > 0:04:55- She's sassy.

0:04:55 > 0:05:00- Everyone hates her but you need - someone everyone hates - a villain.

0:05:00 > 0:05:04- I need to teach you a lesson. - I don't want that slimeball...

0:05:04 > 0:05:07- ..anywhere near my mother, - do you understand?

0:05:07 > 0:05:09- I can't hear you!

0:05:09 > 0:05:11- 'Sioned is a handful.'

0:05:12 > 0:05:14- And she always gets her way, - fair play.

0:05:15 > 0:05:18- I think people love to hate - somebody.

0:05:18 > 0:05:20- You need someone to hate - every night.

0:05:20 > 0:05:24- Wherever she goes, - trouble usually follows.

0:05:25 > 0:05:28- 'We've had the domestic abuse story - recently.'

0:05:28 > 0:05:30- Sioned!

0:05:31 > 0:05:34- 'I do like Sioned as a character.'

0:05:34 > 0:05:38- She has done some bad things - in the past...

0:05:38 > 0:05:41- ..but I feel sorry for her now - with Garry.

0:05:41 > 0:05:43- Say something, please.

0:05:43 > 0:05:46- I'm sorry but there's no heartbeat.

0:05:48 > 0:05:49- No.

0:05:49 > 0:05:51- Try again.

0:05:51 > 0:05:56- 'In the back of my mind, I thought, - someone's going to watch this...'

0:05:56 > 0:06:01- ..who has probably or might have - had these experiences.

0:06:01 > 0:06:04- I just wanted to get it right.

0:06:04 > 0:06:07- I didn't want to come across - as a panto villain...

0:06:07 > 0:06:11- ..I wanted to show - the psychological side too.

0:06:11 > 0:06:14- It'll be like it never existed.

0:06:14 > 0:06:16- That's not true.

0:06:17 > 0:06:19- We'll always remember.

0:06:19 > 0:06:24- And to prove that legends run - in the family, here's Number 7.

0:06:24 > 0:06:26- Denzil, the poor guy.

0:06:26 > 0:06:31- Yes, that's where I'm going now - - to have some lunch up at the house.

0:06:31 > 0:06:34- 'Denzil was one of my favourite - characters...

0:06:34 > 0:06:37- '..because he was full of energy.'

0:06:37 > 0:06:39- People just liked him.

0:06:39 > 0:06:40- You're asking for trouble.

0:06:40 > 0:06:42- You're asking for trouble.- - Asking for trouble?!

0:06:42 > 0:06:44- Maybe not everyone.

0:06:44 > 0:06:46- Do you know how I sort things out?

0:06:47 > 0:06:49- When I joined the series...

0:06:49 > 0:06:52- ..it was an exciting time for me, - in 1984.

0:06:53 > 0:06:56- 'My first scene in the studio - was in the Deri...

0:06:56 > 0:07:00- '..and I remember Denzil, - when I look at the scene now...

0:07:00 > 0:07:04- '..he looks so young, - ordering orange juice.'

0:07:04 > 0:07:08- It shows how seriously people take - the series, people told my Mam...

0:07:08 > 0:07:12- ..they were proud that "Gwyn" - had ordered an orange juice.

0:07:12 > 0:07:14- Gwyn hadn't ordered anything!

0:07:14 > 0:07:17- 'And then the septic tank truck. - That was a great time.

0:07:18 > 0:07:20- 'Denzil and Dic Deryn - had a lot of fun.

0:07:20 > 0:07:23- 'When I arrived at the farm - in Lisvane...

0:07:23 > 0:07:27- '..and lifted up the cover - of this cesspit...

0:07:27 > 0:07:31- '..the real truck hadn't turned up - and it was full to the brim.'

0:07:31 > 0:07:34- I've never smelled - anything like it!

0:07:35 > 0:07:39- A couple of episodes could - follow a specific storyline...

0:07:39 > 0:07:41- ..and that meant a trip somewhere.

0:07:42 > 0:07:45- 'The story this time was - the boys from Cwmderi...

0:07:45 > 0:07:49- '..going down to Cardiff - to watch an international game.'

0:07:49 > 0:07:54- Denzil was dressed up - as Boris the Romanian.

0:07:54 > 0:07:59- And, of course, the script - took it for granted...

0:07:59 > 0:08:01- ..that Wales would win.

0:08:01 > 0:08:03- We lost.

0:08:03 > 0:08:05- Na Zdorovie!

0:08:07 > 0:08:10- Cheers, Denz. Life's far too short.

0:08:10 > 0:08:13- As I've said, I don't want - any more to...

0:08:13 > 0:08:15- 'It was a bit like...'

0:08:15 > 0:08:17- That's quite iconic.

0:08:17 > 0:08:19- Dad!

0:08:20 > 0:08:22- Dad!

0:08:22 > 0:08:26- 'I was worried Denz was gone, - having had a serious heart attack.'

0:08:26 > 0:08:29- It's possible Sioned - played a part in that...

0:08:29 > 0:08:31- ..and that plays on her conscience.

0:08:31 > 0:08:34- Almost half way, Number 6 is next.

0:08:34 > 0:08:38- Oh, Meic Pierce. Meic Pierce - was a legend, wasn't he?

0:08:40 > 0:08:42- What's wrong with these scales?

0:08:42 > 0:08:45- They've finally met Two Ton Tessie.

0:08:45 > 0:08:48- You're very lucky they're not - talking scales...

0:08:48 > 0:08:52- ..or they would have told - both of you to get off!

0:08:52 > 0:08:55- 'When I appeared in - the first series in '75...'

0:08:55 > 0:09:00- ..he did a lot of silly and - foolish things, to be honest.

0:09:00 > 0:09:03- They have better ones at - Carmarthen Market. And stronger!

0:09:04 > 0:09:08- 'When he came back, - he was a lot more serious.'

0:09:08 > 0:09:11- He was one of the pillars - of the community.

0:09:11 > 0:09:15- He's been comical - and he's had some sad stories too.

0:09:15 > 0:09:17- Yes, especially in 2005...

0:09:18 > 0:09:21- ..when Meic and Anita - lost their baby - Eira.

0:09:22 > 0:09:24- I'm going to carry her.

0:09:25 > 0:09:26- Thanks.

0:09:26 > 0:09:29- 'It was pretty difficult - because it was so harrowing.

0:09:29 > 0:09:33- 'It wasn't a nice thing to do - at all...

0:09:33 > 0:09:35- '..but it was a good story.'

0:09:36 > 0:09:40- But leaving on the last day - of filming...

0:09:40 > 0:09:42- ..was extremely difficult.

0:09:42 > 0:09:46- I didn't require any make-up - because I really was crying.

0:09:46 > 0:09:48- It meant so much to me.

0:09:49 > 0:09:53- 'Not only was I never going to - act with them again...

0:09:53 > 0:09:59- '..but that was the last scene - I ever recorded with Nia...'

0:09:59 > 0:10:01- '..who played Anita.'

0:10:01 > 0:10:02- Quite traumatic.

0:10:03 > 0:10:07- But we'll always remember Meic - as one of the funniest characters.

0:10:07 > 0:10:09- Do you remember the burger van?

0:10:09 > 0:10:11- Are they going to play - hoola-hoops?

0:10:11 > 0:10:13- 'Y Mynach Mwyn, if I remember.'

0:10:14 > 0:10:16- That was a lot of fun.

0:10:16 > 0:10:19- Gareth Lewis and I - were best friends...

0:10:19 > 0:10:22- ..and our characters - had a lot of fun together.

0:10:23 > 0:10:25- Are these all the rolls - you brought?

0:10:25 > 0:10:28- That's nowhere near enough!

0:10:28 > 0:10:32- I'll have to go all the way back - to the cafe. You're a real clown.

0:10:32 > 0:10:36- Forget it. No-one's going to - come out in this.

0:10:36 > 0:10:37- Oh, crikey!

0:10:39 > 0:10:44- There was variety to Meic. - He could do all kinds of things.

0:10:44 > 0:10:47- I think that contributed to - his longevity.

0:10:47 > 0:10:52- We're halfway through the list and - half the legends have been named.

0:10:52 > 0:10:56- But a member of which family was - waiting for Stan and Doreen?

0:10:57 > 0:11:00- Come back after the break - to find out...

0:11:00 > 0:11:03- ..and to find out who tops - the list of Cewri Cwmderi.

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0:11:09 > 0:11:09- Subtitles

0:11:09 > 0:11:11- Subtitles- - Subtitles

0:11:14 > 0:11:16- Welcome back to Cwmderi.

0:11:16 > 0:11:20- We're halfway through the list but - which legendary family's next?

0:11:20 > 0:11:24- Which member of that family gave - Stan and Doreen a fright...

0:11:24 > 0:11:26- ..at the bottom of the stairs?

0:11:29 > 0:11:31- Stay where you are you!

0:11:31 > 0:11:34- 'It wasn't our Mark! Who else?'

0:11:34 > 0:11:36- No, Stan!

0:11:38 > 0:11:40- The Joneses are next.

0:11:41 > 0:11:42- Kath Jones.

0:11:42 > 0:11:44- Kath Jones.- - Mark Jones's my favourite.

0:11:44 > 0:11:46- Well, Mark. He's a bad boy.

0:11:46 > 0:11:49- I liked the bad characters - in a way.

0:11:50 > 0:11:52- Look at you, you're like pigs.

0:11:52 > 0:11:53- I'm starving.

0:11:54 > 0:11:56- I'm not myself - until I've had breakfast.

0:11:56 > 0:12:00- It's an honour to be included - on this list.

0:12:00 > 0:12:02- It's nice that we're all - back together too.

0:12:04 > 0:12:07- Hoi! We need that door to last - until tomorrow.

0:12:08 > 0:12:10- We were on top of each other here.

0:12:10 > 0:12:13- Doors were slammed, - voices were raised.

0:12:13 > 0:12:15- It was like the Jeremy Kyle show.

0:12:15 > 0:12:16- Everyone was arguing.

0:12:16 > 0:12:18- Everyone was arguing.- - Only in Welsh.

0:12:19 > 0:12:20- I've never made any friends.

0:12:21 > 0:12:22- Who'd want to be friends with you?

0:12:23 > 0:12:25- You think you're better - than everyone.

0:12:25 > 0:12:27- 'We'd argue with each other - but as a unit...

0:12:28 > 0:12:31- '..nobody was allowed to say - or do anything.'

0:12:31 > 0:12:35- If anyone said anything about - Stacey it would be, look out.

0:12:35 > 0:12:38- This mouth could say things - about you.

0:12:38 > 0:12:41- It isn't your mouth that needs - locking up.

0:12:41 > 0:12:44- If I'm locked up, - you'll be next door to me.

0:12:44 > 0:12:45- Control him, Dyff.

0:12:46 > 0:12:48- She started a relationship - with her teacher.

0:12:51 > 0:12:53- She was different to the Joneses.

0:12:53 > 0:12:54- She wanted better things.

0:12:54 > 0:12:56- She wanted better things.- - Stacey was ambitious, wasn't she.

0:12:57 > 0:13:01- Mark had no ambition. - He wanted to be like his father!

0:13:03 > 0:13:04- You swine!

0:13:05 > 0:13:07- You'd break into my house? - Damn you!

0:13:08 > 0:13:11- Usually, when there's - a death in a soap...

0:13:11 > 0:13:15- ..there are cars, or someone gets - shot and this and the other.

0:13:15 > 0:13:19- Dyff's death was a bit - of a damp squib.

0:13:19 > 0:13:22- I was in Treforest Industrial - Estate with Graham Land...

0:13:22 > 0:13:27- ..and he kicked my leg, - punched me in the face...

0:13:27 > 0:13:30- ..and Dyff had a blood clot - in the Deri Arms.

0:13:31 > 0:13:32- And that was it.

0:13:33 > 0:13:36- 'The three of us, by then, - were in the corridor...

0:13:36 > 0:13:41- '..and we were aware as actors - that it was an end of an era.

0:13:41 > 0:13:44- 'As a character...'

0:13:44 > 0:13:49- ..Kath had never loved anyone else - apart from Dyff since she was 16.

0:13:49 > 0:13:55- So, for her it was - an enormous blow.

0:13:55 > 0:13:59- I don't think anyone's - filled Dyff's shoes.

0:13:59 > 0:14:05- Some have tried but the shoes have - never been big enough I'm afraid.

0:14:07 > 0:14:09- Poor Kath. On now to Number 4.

0:14:10 > 0:14:11- My favourite is Dai Sgaffalde.

0:14:12 > 0:14:13- Diane.

0:14:13 > 0:14:15- Diane.- - Dai Sgaffalde.

0:14:15 > 0:14:18- I think we're quite similar - sometimes!

0:14:18 > 0:14:20- Give me another kiss.

0:14:20 > 0:14:24- Yes, Dai and Diane the - Culhwch and Olwen of Cwmderi.

0:14:24 > 0:14:26- I'm the luckiest man in the world.

0:14:26 > 0:14:28- I know.

0:14:28 > 0:14:33- We're in people's front rooms - every day of the week by now.

0:14:33 > 0:14:39- I think people get to know us and - our popularity grows from there.

0:14:40 > 0:14:42- Sandra, you've had a nice meal...

0:14:42 > 0:14:45- ..you've had a sauna - and everything...

0:14:45 > 0:14:48- ..but it's time for you - to keep me company.

0:14:48 > 0:14:50- 'Dai came into the series - at the end of the 1970s.

0:14:51 > 0:14:52- 'But he left for a while.'

0:14:53 > 0:14:55- He came back at the end - of the last century...

0:14:56 > 0:14:58- ..and has been back for 18 years.

0:14:58 > 0:15:01- The truth is we're going to lose - the championship...

0:15:01 > 0:15:05- ..because you Dennis the Menace - has been talking in his beer!

0:15:06 > 0:15:08- I don't think he's changed - that much.

0:15:08 > 0:15:10- He's got older, - he's matured a bit...

0:15:11 > 0:15:14- ..but he's still as wild as he was - back in the days...

0:15:14 > 0:15:17- ..of Dai and Dic Deryn.

0:15:17 > 0:15:18- Sandra.

0:15:18 > 0:15:20- Dai Sgaffalde!

0:15:20 > 0:15:22- Sh!

0:15:24 > 0:15:26- What's wrong?

0:15:26 > 0:15:28- Dai!

0:15:28 > 0:15:31- Come on, boys. Never say Dai.

0:15:32 > 0:15:35- Diane has changed a lot - over the years.

0:15:35 > 0:15:38- She used to be a loud woman...

0:15:39 > 0:15:41- ..and she was nasty.

0:15:42 > 0:15:44- She hasn't changed that much!

0:15:44 > 0:15:46- She hasn't changed that much!- - Get away!

0:15:46 > 0:15:48- You're too cowardly to say it - to my face.

0:15:49 > 0:15:51- You had to go through - your solicitor.

0:15:52 > 0:15:54- 'Husband number one had left - her in a bit of a mess.'

0:15:55 > 0:15:57- That's how she came into - the series.

0:15:57 > 0:16:00- Then she married Reg Harries.

0:16:00 > 0:16:02- He was husband number two.

0:16:02 > 0:16:05- 'I think rugby brought us together.

0:16:05 > 0:16:10- 'Yes. We'd gone on a rugby trip - and Diane invited Dai upstairs.'

0:16:11 > 0:16:14- He doesn't have to be by your side.

0:16:17 > 0:16:20- I've got a big bed all to myself.

0:16:22 > 0:16:24- And if he's down here...

0:16:24 > 0:16:27- ..he won't be any the wiser, - will he?

0:16:29 > 0:16:34- 'We're good friends off-screen and - I hope the viewers see that...'

0:16:34 > 0:16:40- ..as we change costumes from Emyr - and Victoria into Dai and Diane.

0:16:43 > 0:16:44- Get away.

0:16:45 > 0:16:47- Ah, cute. Here's Number 3.

0:16:48 > 0:16:50- Mrs McGurk.

0:16:50 > 0:16:52- She was very good.

0:16:52 > 0:16:56- And the gin? Bring me a gin - and make it a large one.

0:16:56 > 0:16:58- Nice? And not too strong.

0:16:59 > 0:17:00- Perfect.

0:17:01 > 0:17:04- Quick, pour me another - and make it a large one.

0:17:06 > 0:17:10- Jean and Cassie were great friends.

0:17:12 > 0:17:14- Their husbands were cousins.

0:17:15 > 0:17:18- Teg and Glan were very similar - to each other.

0:17:19 > 0:17:22- Maybe they were old fashioned - and narrow minded.

0:17:22 > 0:17:26- But when they met, - Cassie and Mrs Mac...

0:17:26 > 0:17:29- ..they instantly became friends...

0:17:29 > 0:17:33- ..because they weren't old - fashioned nor narrow minded.

0:17:33 > 0:17:34- I've heard it all now.

0:17:34 > 0:17:36- I've heard it all now.- - Jean!

0:17:36 > 0:17:38- You're a right one.

0:17:38 > 0:17:39- I've changed.

0:17:39 > 0:17:42- And martians have landed - in Llanarthur.

0:17:42 > 0:17:44- I don't care what you say, - I've matured.

0:17:45 > 0:17:48- But Mrs Mac would never grow up - or change...

0:17:48 > 0:17:51- ..despite Glan trying to help - her stop smoking several times.

0:17:53 > 0:17:56- What are you doing home? I haven't - started making lunch yet.

0:17:56 > 0:17:59- You won't have to, - I bought this.

0:17:59 > 0:18:00- What is it?

0:18:00 > 0:18:02- What is it?- - Can't you smell it? Fish and chips.

0:18:02 > 0:18:06- The relationship between Mrs Mac - and Glan was brilliant and special.

0:18:07 > 0:18:09- There was a lot of love there.

0:18:09 > 0:18:11- That came through...

0:18:11 > 0:18:15- ..and I think - that's why people remember them.

0:18:15 > 0:18:18- Stop lying. I know exactly - what you've been doing.

0:18:19 > 0:18:21- You've had a fag on the sly.

0:18:21 > 0:18:23- What do you mean? - I've done no such thing.

0:18:23 > 0:18:25- Haven't you?

0:18:25 > 0:18:26- What's this?

0:18:29 > 0:18:31- Come on then, I'm waiting.

0:18:32 > 0:18:35- Around the time she left - the series I wrote a couplet...

0:18:36 > 0:18:38- ..for Mrs Mac.

0:18:38 > 0:18:41- A wild and harsh looking woman.

0:18:41 > 0:18:44- Usually hidden in a cloud of smoke.

0:18:45 > 0:18:47- She smoked all the time.

0:18:48 > 0:18:50- Lovely. On we go now to Number 2.

0:18:51 > 0:18:52- Garry, I think.

0:18:52 > 0:18:55- Garry, I think.- - He can be loving but very bad too.

0:18:55 > 0:18:59- You've always given the impression - that you're the big brother.

0:19:00 > 0:19:03- Haven't you, Brand? - The hard brother.

0:19:04 > 0:19:07- I think one of the main reasons - Garry's a Cwmderi great...

0:19:07 > 0:19:11- ..is the fact that everyone, - viewers and people...

0:19:12 > 0:19:14- ..like a villain.

0:19:14 > 0:19:17- Everyone's laughing at you.

0:19:18 > 0:19:20- Oi! That's enough.

0:19:23 > 0:19:27- He's feisty, he's the boss and - people are scared of him.

0:19:27 > 0:19:29- My kind of man!

0:19:30 > 0:19:33- Women sometimes like the idea...

0:19:34 > 0:19:36- ..of going out - with a dangerous man...

0:19:37 > 0:19:41- ..and they don't quite know - what's going to happen next.

0:19:41 > 0:19:43- That can be quite exciting.

0:19:43 > 0:19:47- If they're with someone - who's safe and stable...

0:19:47 > 0:19:51- ..and they know what to expect, - that's one thing...

0:19:51 > 0:19:56- ..but going out with someone - unpredictable, that can be sexy.

0:19:56 > 0:20:00- He's got this idea that family - is the most important thing...

0:20:01 > 0:20:05- ..as a result of his background - and that he didn't have...

0:20:05 > 0:20:08- ..a stable family - when he was a child.

0:20:09 > 0:20:11- You're a father.

0:20:12 > 0:20:13- He's so small.

0:20:13 > 0:20:17- 'I can see that he wants Gwern - to have what he didn't get.'

0:20:17 > 0:20:23- I'm sure he'd do anything to make - sure that happened.

0:20:25 > 0:20:26- Britt?

0:20:26 > 0:20:29- 'The stories that have stuck - in my mind...'

0:20:29 > 0:20:33- ..are the ones that deal with - family rather than dodgy dealings.

0:20:33 > 0:20:37- When he lost his brother, - he lost that family...

0:20:37 > 0:20:40- ..because family was - so important to him.

0:20:40 > 0:20:43- In a way, that's what - propels him forward.

0:20:43 > 0:20:47- There are complex layers - to his character.

0:20:47 > 0:20:50- And that's what Garry is.

0:20:50 > 0:20:53- He's a complex and multi-layered - character.

0:20:55 > 0:20:58- At the top of the list - of Cewri Cwmderi...

0:20:58 > 0:21:00- Magi Post.

0:21:00 > 0:21:04- Always full of gossip - and knew everything about everyone.

0:21:04 > 0:21:08- She was a natural character - you'd see in rural shops.

0:21:08 > 0:21:11- How's your Wayne?

0:21:11 > 0:21:13- How's Wayne settling - in his new job?

0:21:13 > 0:21:17- 'You can never forget Magi Post - to start with.'

0:21:17 > 0:21:20- She was such a huge character.

0:21:20 > 0:21:22- The thing about Magi Post was...

0:21:23 > 0:21:26- ..she wasn't that different - from Harriet Lewis.

0:21:26 > 0:21:29- Harriet would tell us stories - about everyone...

0:21:29 > 0:21:32- ..just like Magi Post told them.

0:21:32 > 0:21:35- All men are like that. - They all get their moods.

0:21:35 > 0:21:40- She was lively. You heard her voice - and you had to look at the telly.

0:21:40 > 0:21:43- Come on now, Sabrina, - it's time we left.

0:21:43 > 0:21:46- I don't know how I'm going - to do my part tonight.

0:21:46 > 0:21:49- You'll be excellent as usual. - Come on now.

0:21:49 > 0:21:53- 'She performed all the time.'

0:21:54 > 0:21:57- You knew you were going to have fun - in the scene...

0:21:57 > 0:21:59- ..if Magi Post - was in the scene.

0:22:00 > 0:22:02- Harriet would learn her script - before rehearsal.

0:22:03 > 0:22:05- Everyone else went to rehearsal, - made changes...

0:22:06 > 0:22:08- ..and then learned their lines.

0:22:09 > 0:22:11- I remember one scene - between Magi Post and Reg...

0:22:12 > 0:22:16- ..where Reg used the changed script - while Magi used the old script.

0:22:16 > 0:22:18- The lines just didn't follow.

0:22:18 > 0:22:22- But Harriet told Huw, "You do - your lines, and I'll do mine."

0:22:22 > 0:22:24- And that was the end of the matter.

0:22:24 > 0:22:28- There was a gentleness there - and she was incredibly funny.

0:22:28 > 0:22:33- People sometimes used to say - it was a bit over the top.

0:22:33 > 0:22:36- But characters like that - really exist.

0:22:36 > 0:22:38- You can't be smoking - in front of the child?

0:22:39 > 0:22:41- No, only when she turns her back.

0:22:41 > 0:22:45- That's just as bad than if the - child was smoking herself.

0:22:46 > 0:22:47- You were scared of her.

0:22:47 > 0:22:48- You were scared of her.- - Yes.

0:22:48 > 0:22:52- As young actors - we had this respectful fear...

0:22:52 > 0:22:54- ..of these iconic characters.

0:22:55 > 0:22:58- She scared you - and you were unnerved by her...

0:22:58 > 0:23:01- ..and you'd think she was similar - to someone in your family.

0:23:01 > 0:23:05- I think it would be nice to have - someone like that back...

0:23:05 > 0:23:06- ..because they do exist.

0:23:07 > 0:23:10- I was relatively young at the time - and I looked up to her.

0:23:11 > 0:23:14- I didn't look up to her literally - but rather looked down.

0:23:14 > 0:23:16- She was only about four foot two!

0:23:17 > 0:23:19- But she was a big character.

0:23:20 > 0:23:24- It's been nice to look back - over the years.

0:23:25 > 0:23:27- I totally agree.

0:23:27 > 0:23:30- Congratulations for getting - to the top of the list.

0:23:30 > 0:23:33- But the story doesn't end there.

0:23:33 > 0:23:36- Like every good legend, - Cwmderi's mythology will continue...

0:23:37 > 0:23:40- ..and Cwmderi will create - even more legends.

0:23:40 > 0:23:44- Who knows who will be - the future Cwmderi greats?

0:23:44 > 0:23:46- But for now, - congratulations Magi Post...

0:23:47 > 0:23:49- ..Cwmderi's Greatest.

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