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0:00:22 > 0:00:23It's nice.

0:00:23 > 0:00:25How did you find me?

0:00:25 > 0:00:28I called the station. I'm still down as next of kin.

0:00:28 > 0:00:32Sometimes it helps to see if certain behaviours are linked to childhood.

0:00:32 > 0:00:35My dad was far from perfect but he did his best.

0:00:35 > 0:00:37I need to get back to work.

0:00:37 > 0:00:39You have to be comfortable with your counsellor, Will.

0:00:39 > 0:00:41I was just thinking of the first time I met him.

0:00:41 > 0:00:44He'd just shoplifted a bottle of cider.

0:00:44 > 0:00:47I'd say that lad's problems started a long time before you came along.

0:00:47 > 0:00:49Why should I believe you?

0:00:49 > 0:00:51Because I want justice for your mum.

0:00:51 > 0:00:52Who cares?

0:01:03 > 0:01:05- DISTORTED:- Mum! Mum!

0:01:05 > 0:01:07Mum! Talk to me, please?

0:01:07 > 0:01:09Mum?

0:01:10 > 0:01:12What did you do to her? Look...

0:01:14 > 0:01:18- MAN:- It was accident, son! Are you listening to me?

0:01:18 > 0:01:20It was an accident. Are you listening? Can you hear me?!

0:01:35 > 0:01:37Mum!

0:01:37 > 0:01:40Mum! Mum! Talk to me, please?

0:03:58 > 0:04:00- Slow day? - Just waiting for somebody.

0:04:00 > 0:04:03- Story of my life. - Story of my life an' all.

0:04:06 > 0:04:09Hey, Gina, I brought that money in.

0:04:09 > 0:04:12Ach, you shouldnae have bothered.

0:04:12 > 0:04:15I thought you had an important meeting?

0:04:15 > 0:04:18It's finished. I'm just grabbing a coffee before I head back.

0:04:18 > 0:04:21- What are you doing in here? - I was in yesterday with Callum,

0:04:21 > 0:04:23bought him an ice cream and forgot my purse.

0:04:23 > 0:04:24Who's in the salon?

0:04:24 > 0:04:26Next customer's no' due until half ten.

0:04:26 > 0:04:28So don't panic, I'm heading back now.

0:04:28 > 0:04:29I'll see you over there.

0:04:29 > 0:04:32Take your time. In fact, take ten minutes.

0:04:34 > 0:04:37Next time you're in with Callum, the ice cream's on me, OK?

0:04:37 > 0:04:39Thanks, Gina.

0:04:58 > 0:05:02WILL: 'Before I go to sleep, I've been having these strange thoughts.

0:05:02 > 0:05:06'They're not dreams, because I'm...I'm still awake.'

0:05:17 > 0:05:23Well...I'm lying on the edge of my bed...and I roll over.

0:05:23 > 0:05:27But when I roll over, I'm rolling off a cliff.

0:05:27 > 0:05:29And then I'm falling, and falling,

0:05:29 > 0:05:32and it's miles and miles to the ground.

0:05:33 > 0:05:35And it feels... It feels real.

0:05:37 > 0:05:39What happens?

0:05:42 > 0:05:47It's strange because there's someone there. I can't make them out.

0:05:49 > 0:05:51But I can just feel them.

0:05:52 > 0:05:54And they could catch me if they want.

0:05:54 > 0:05:56They could... They could stop me falling.

0:05:58 > 0:06:00And do they?

0:06:01 > 0:06:06I don't know. I either wake up or fall asleep.

0:06:07 > 0:06:10I've just got this horrible, overwhelming feeling

0:06:10 > 0:06:11all over my body.

0:06:11 > 0:06:14Can you describe it?

0:06:16 > 0:06:20It's like I'm alone, there's nobody else around...

0:06:24 > 0:06:26Alone, like I'll be when I die.

0:06:28 > 0:06:30And no-one to care either way.

0:06:34 > 0:06:36It's like I'm the loneliest man in the world.

0:06:57 > 0:07:00When we were kids,

0:07:00 > 0:07:02my dad never liked us having people back to the house.

0:07:04 > 0:07:05People?

0:07:05 > 0:07:11Friends. I didn't have a friend back to the house, not once.

0:07:11 > 0:07:12Neither did my sister.

0:07:12 > 0:07:15If someone came to the door, we weren't to answer it.

0:07:17 > 0:07:21Dad said that, er, friendships were only temporary,

0:07:21 > 0:07:23it's family that was permanent.

0:07:25 > 0:07:27But you didn't get to choose them.

0:07:27 > 0:07:30- Did your dad have people back?- No.

0:07:32 > 0:07:36He used to come home from work, make us dinner and then go to his room.

0:07:36 > 0:07:38And we'd go to ours.

0:07:40 > 0:07:42Sorry, this probably isn't irrelevant.

0:07:53 > 0:07:56I'm so sorry, an incident came in at the last minute.

0:07:56 > 0:07:58I had to fill out a report, I'm really sorry.

0:07:58 > 0:08:00I've been here for over an hour.

0:08:00 > 0:08:01I know.

0:08:01 > 0:08:04I would have gone, but this needs to get sorted.

0:08:06 > 0:08:07You said you would deal with these.

0:08:07 > 0:08:10- I know. - We never got a delivery yesterday

0:08:10 > 0:08:12because you haven't paid the last bill.

0:08:12 > 0:08:15I had to cancel two customers, because I don't have the right dye.

0:08:15 > 0:08:16I'll sort it today, I promise.

0:08:16 > 0:08:20It's gone beyond that, Will. I'm needing to pay Nicole.

0:08:20 > 0:08:22She hasn't had her wages this week.

0:08:22 > 0:08:24I'm sorry.

0:08:24 > 0:08:26It's one thing treating me like this,

0:08:26 > 0:08:28but I can't have you doing it to Nicole or our customers.

0:08:28 > 0:08:32Look, I've had a lot on. OK, I'll sort it, I promise.

0:08:32 > 0:08:33I manage the salon.

0:08:33 > 0:08:36Why can't I have control of the financial running of the place?

0:08:36 > 0:08:39It was so I could take some of the strain away, wasn't it?

0:08:39 > 0:08:40You're doing the opposite.

0:08:40 > 0:08:42You still haven't dealt with

0:08:42 > 0:08:44putting my name on the lease for the flat either.

0:08:44 > 0:08:46It's as if you don't want me

0:08:46 > 0:08:49to have any control in making decisions for myself.

0:08:49 > 0:08:50That's not true.

0:08:50 > 0:08:51PHONE RINGS

0:08:53 > 0:08:56It would be nice if you could stop complicating our lives, please?

0:08:56 > 0:08:59I know you don't mean it, but you're still doing it.

0:08:59 > 0:09:01Look, I want you to make all the decisions from now on.

0:09:01 > 0:09:04I won't let anything get in the way, I promise.

0:09:04 > 0:09:07- If you're no' going to answer it, turn it off.- Sorry, it's work.

0:09:07 > 0:09:08Of course it is.

0:09:08 > 0:09:10DC Cooper?

0:09:12 > 0:09:14OK. I'll be with you shortly.

0:09:14 > 0:09:16I'm sorry, Robbie, I've got to go.

0:09:18 > 0:09:20Sort out the salon. Make it a priority.

0:09:20 > 0:09:22I will do. I promise.

0:09:33 > 0:09:35Sir.

0:09:35 > 0:09:37Any news on Petey?

0:09:37 > 0:09:41He's not in his room and apparently he's not been taking his medication.

0:09:41 > 0:09:44He's supposed to be giving evidence tomorrow?

0:09:44 > 0:09:45Yep.

0:09:45 > 0:09:47I suppose after what he's been through,

0:09:47 > 0:09:49his safety has to be a priority.

0:09:49 > 0:09:51Have you spoken to him recently?

0:09:51 > 0:09:53No, I just left a couple of messages.

0:09:53 > 0:09:55Keep on trying or else Dominic Roberts

0:09:55 > 0:09:58might have someone else on his conscience.

0:10:03 > 0:10:06'Listen to me. It was an accident. Are you listening to me?

0:10:06 > 0:10:08'Can you hear me?

0:10:08 > 0:10:10'Phone an ambulance!

0:10:10 > 0:10:12'I'll take care of this. Petey, listen to me! Listen to me.

0:10:12 > 0:10:15'I'll take care of it, eh? I'll take care of it - I always do.

0:10:15 > 0:10:17'Just me and you.

0:10:19 > 0:10:21'Don't go! Don't leave me, Dad!

0:10:21 > 0:10:22'Dad!'

0:10:50 > 0:10:51It's me.

0:11:21 > 0:11:22Are you all right?

0:11:22 > 0:11:23Yeah.

0:11:23 > 0:11:25Are you sure?

0:11:29 > 0:11:31What are you doing here anyway?

0:11:31 > 0:11:33I used to come here when I was wee.

0:11:37 > 0:11:38You had us all worried about you.

0:11:38 > 0:11:41I've been stuck in that room for weeks

0:11:41 > 0:11:44and the pills they've been giving me have made me feel sick.

0:11:44 > 0:11:46Maybe you should have told someone you were leaving.

0:11:47 > 0:11:50Then they wouldn't have let me go.

0:11:51 > 0:11:54Don't worry, I'm not thinking about doing anything stupid.

0:11:54 > 0:11:55Glad to hear it.

0:11:58 > 0:12:02I can't eat, I can't sleep.

0:12:02 > 0:12:04I just wish I could disappear.

0:12:05 > 0:12:08Look, you're going through a really tough time.

0:12:08 > 0:12:10You're bound to feel like this.

0:12:13 > 0:12:14I miss my mum.

0:12:18 > 0:12:19We used to come here.

0:12:21 > 0:12:23I miss the way we used to be.

0:12:25 > 0:12:27I know how it feels.

0:12:29 > 0:12:32I see her in my dreams. I see her when I'm awake.

0:12:36 > 0:12:38I...I see her, but...

0:12:41 > 0:12:44..I just can't find her.

0:12:55 > 0:12:59Great, I'll head there now. Thanks.

0:13:04 > 0:13:06Right, I got hold of her.

0:13:06 > 0:13:09Now, are you absolutely sure what you've told me

0:13:09 > 0:13:11isn't part of one of the dreams you've been having?

0:13:11 > 0:13:13I know the difference.

0:13:13 > 0:13:16OK, well, look, she's agreed to meet us at the recovery centre.

0:13:16 > 0:13:20I just want you to tell her exactly what you told me, all right?

0:13:21 > 0:13:23Right, let's go.

0:13:23 > 0:13:24Are you not finishing your food?

0:13:24 > 0:13:26Nah, I've lost my appetite.

0:13:40 > 0:13:43I'm seeing Gareth when I finish today.

0:13:43 > 0:13:45Well, you know what I think. Just be careful.

0:13:45 > 0:13:48I'm making him something to eat, that's all.

0:13:51 > 0:13:53I still can't even believe he likes me.

0:13:53 > 0:13:55What do you mean by that?

0:13:55 > 0:13:57Well...

0:13:57 > 0:14:00me with a bump and everything.

0:14:00 > 0:14:03Nicole, you're a wee smasher, and he's a lucky guy.

0:14:03 > 0:14:06Just don't go rushing in, that's all I'm saying.

0:14:06 > 0:14:08I won't.

0:14:08 > 0:14:11Well, what are you waiting for then? You're finished.

0:14:11 > 0:14:14I'll just get my wages, then I'm out of here.

0:14:14 > 0:14:17I can assure you, there is no temporary cash flow problem.

0:14:17 > 0:14:21It was an error. Thank you so much for your patience.

0:14:21 > 0:14:24You should get going. That's you done for the day.

0:14:24 > 0:14:28I'm really sorry to ask you this again, but can I have my wages?

0:14:28 > 0:14:30Aw, Nicole, they're still not done.

0:14:30 > 0:14:32Can I gie you this? It's 40 quid.

0:14:32 > 0:14:35I'll take it out your wages we're back on track.

0:14:35 > 0:14:38- No, I feel bad doing that.- It's no' you that should be feeling bad.

0:14:38 > 0:14:40Away and enjoy your afternoon. What are you up to?

0:14:40 > 0:14:42Nothing much.

0:14:42 > 0:14:44- Thanks.- Bye, doll.

0:14:51 > 0:14:52What?

0:14:52 > 0:14:55That was a lovely thing you just did there.

0:14:55 > 0:14:58But next time you're giving away money, I'm first in the queue.

0:15:01 > 0:15:03Petey, I want you to tell the Advocate Depute...

0:15:03 > 0:15:06Call me Linda, we're not in court now.

0:15:07 > 0:15:09Tell Linda exactly what you told me

0:15:09 > 0:15:11about the night your mother was killed.

0:15:16 > 0:15:19When I saw you the last time, I told you the truth.

0:15:21 > 0:15:22I told you what I remembered.

0:15:26 > 0:15:27Take your time.

0:15:29 > 0:15:32Well, I've remembered more...

0:15:35 > 0:15:36Bit by bit,

0:15:36 > 0:15:39it's all coming back to me,

0:15:39 > 0:15:41even all the stuff I wish I couldn't remember.

0:15:47 > 0:15:50This new evidence is believable?

0:15:50 > 0:15:51I believe him.

0:15:51 > 0:15:53He says he remembers seeing his dad

0:15:53 > 0:15:55take his mum's pulse before he left.

0:15:55 > 0:15:57I just hope the jury believe him.

0:15:57 > 0:15:58Me too.

0:17:21 > 0:17:23- DISTORTED:- 'Mum!

0:17:23 > 0:17:25'Mum! Talk to me, please?

0:17:25 > 0:17:26'Mum?'

0:17:29 > 0:17:31FATHER SHOUTS INDISTINCTLY

0:17:31 > 0:17:34- '..you stupid slag!- Get off her!

0:17:34 > 0:17:35'Bringing guys in the house!'

0:17:35 > 0:17:37PETER'S PLEAS OVERLAP FATHER'S VOICE

0:17:37 > 0:17:41- 'You're a slag. You're a slag. - Dad!- Listen to me.- Leave her alone!

0:17:41 > 0:17:44'I told you, you're a slag...'

0:17:44 > 0:17:46OVERLAPPING SHOUTING CONTINUES

0:17:46 > 0:17:48- 'Don't do this to her, please? - Yeah?!

0:17:48 > 0:17:52- MOTHER:- 'Petey, don't! Petey, don't! Leave it, Petey!

0:17:52 > 0:17:56'Petey, no! Don't, Petey! Just leave it!

0:17:56 > 0:17:58'Petey, no!'

0:17:58 > 0:18:02PETEY'S MOTHER'S ANGUISHED SHOUTS ECHO AND FADE

0:18:39 > 0:18:42I told him he didn't have to stay over.

0:18:42 > 0:18:45There you go. He must have wanted to, that means quite a lot.

0:18:45 > 0:18:47Great. Thanks!

0:18:47 > 0:18:49Wonders will never cease.

0:18:49 > 0:18:51- What?- Will's sorted some of the problems out.

0:18:51 > 0:18:54The bills are paid, so we're getting our stuff delivered.

0:18:54 > 0:18:55Does that mean I can get my wages?

0:18:55 > 0:18:56Have you still not been paid?

0:18:56 > 0:19:00He forgot to put it into the account and it's still not in yet.

0:19:00 > 0:19:02Well, you'd better tell him to get his finger out

0:19:02 > 0:19:04and get this lassie's wages sorted.

0:19:04 > 0:19:07What does he think this is, a charity(?)

0:19:24 > 0:19:27PRESS FIRE QUESTIONS

0:19:30 > 0:19:32Petey, come on, mate. It's fine.

0:19:32 > 0:19:35All right, that's enough. That's enough, thanks.

0:19:47 > 0:19:49I know these places can be scary

0:19:49 > 0:19:52when you're not used to them, but you'll be fine. I promise.

0:19:52 > 0:19:56- Where's my dad?- He's in a holding cell underneath the court.

0:19:56 > 0:19:58What if he goes for me?

0:19:58 > 0:20:00What if he jumps over the barrier to try and get me?

0:20:00 > 0:20:06He won't, he won't do anything. Come on, you'll be fine.

0:20:22 > 0:20:28I call Crown witness number 15, Peter David Roberts.

0:20:52 > 0:20:56Crown witness number 15, My Lord, Peter David Roberts.

0:20:58 > 0:21:01Raise your right hand and repeat after me.

0:21:02 > 0:21:05I swear by Almighty God...

0:21:05 > 0:21:07I swear by Almighty God...

0:21:07 > 0:21:09..that I will tell the truth...

0:21:09 > 0:21:10..that I will tell the truth...

0:21:10 > 0:21:12- ..the whole truth... - ..the whole truth...

0:21:12 > 0:21:16- ..and nothing but the truth. - ..and nothing but the truth.

0:21:24 > 0:21:28Did you witness any violent behaviour from your father

0:21:28 > 0:21:32to you or your mother, in the months leading up to the incident?

0:21:35 > 0:21:38Could you tell us, please, for the record?

0:21:38 > 0:21:46Yes...but it wasn't any more than any other normal family.

0:21:46 > 0:21:48What wasn't?

0:21:48 > 0:21:50My dad was violent towards me,

0:21:50 > 0:21:53but only when he felt I'd done something wrong.

0:21:53 > 0:21:55Can you give me an example?

0:21:55 > 0:22:00I was meant to tell my dad if anyone ever came round to the house

0:22:00 > 0:22:03to see my mum when he wasn't there.

0:22:03 > 0:22:04And?

0:22:05 > 0:22:10Well when the guy came round to fix the boiler, I forgot to tell him,

0:22:10 > 0:22:14so he...punished me.

0:22:14 > 0:22:16How did he punish you?

0:22:18 > 0:22:20PETEY SIGHS

0:22:20 > 0:22:26He took my trousers down and hit me with his belt.

0:22:29 > 0:22:32What age were you when this took place?

0:22:33 > 0:22:3415.

0:22:39 > 0:22:43Who told you this was no more than happened in any NORMAL family?

0:22:45 > 0:22:47My dad.

0:22:47 > 0:22:50Did he ever try to excuse these incidents?

0:22:50 > 0:22:52He told us that he loved us,

0:22:52 > 0:22:57but there were times we made him so angry.

0:22:59 > 0:23:01The more frightened that she got...

0:23:04 > 0:23:05..the angrier it made him.

0:23:07 > 0:23:08Who are you referring to, Peter?

0:23:15 > 0:23:16My mum.

0:23:19 > 0:23:23On the night your mother was killed,

0:23:23 > 0:23:26was your father violent towards you or your mother?

0:23:34 > 0:23:36HE SOBS

0:23:48 > 0:23:50Take your time.

0:23:58 > 0:24:02He started on at me about my...behaviour at school.

0:24:04 > 0:24:08I answered him back. I shouldn't have.

0:24:08 > 0:24:09Then what?

0:24:11 > 0:24:13He went for me.

0:24:14 > 0:24:17He pulled my hair and pushed me up against the wall.

0:24:17 > 0:24:20I grabbed his hands.

0:24:20 > 0:24:22Go on.

0:24:22 > 0:24:24Then he hit her a hard one on her left cheek.

0:24:24 > 0:24:28She stepped back, as if she was half expecting it.

0:24:31 > 0:24:35Then he hit her again...and again.

0:24:36 > 0:24:39He hit her so hard, that she lost her balance.

0:24:39 > 0:24:44she fell down and she hit her head off the radiator.

0:24:44 > 0:24:48All the blood, it spread over the wall and...

0:24:50 > 0:24:56I saw the blood on his face as he...pulled her up by the hair.

0:25:00 > 0:25:03He looked at me and then he hit her again.

0:25:08 > 0:25:09He didn't need to do that.

0:25:11 > 0:25:17What happened next? And, please, tell us exactly what happened.

0:25:17 > 0:25:21I remember my dad leaning over her and taking her pulse.

0:25:25 > 0:25:28He took his jumper off and...wiped his face.

0:25:34 > 0:25:35Please continue.

0:25:40 > 0:25:43He told me it was an accident. He was crying.

0:25:48 > 0:25:52He told me to phone an ambulance once he had gone.

0:25:55 > 0:25:57He said he would take care of me.

0:26:01 > 0:26:04He said he would always take care of me.

0:26:07 > 0:26:09Did your father leave the house after that?

0:26:14 > 0:26:15Yes.

0:26:23 > 0:26:26One final question, Peter.

0:26:26 > 0:26:30Had your mother recently started to see a new boyfriend?

0:26:30 > 0:26:32- Yes.- That's a lie.

0:26:32 > 0:26:34Another word from you, Mr Roberts,

0:26:34 > 0:26:37and I'll hold you in contempt of court.

0:26:37 > 0:26:43You'll hear the rest of this trial from your cell, do you understand?

0:26:43 > 0:26:45Sorry, My Lord.

0:26:45 > 0:26:46You may proceed.

0:26:49 > 0:26:51What did you think of her boyfriend?

0:26:52 > 0:26:54He was nice.

0:26:56 > 0:26:57He was nice to her.

0:27:00 > 0:27:01She seemed really happy.

0:27:04 > 0:27:06I have nothing further.

0:27:18 > 0:27:22I'm looking at your police statement here, Mr Roberts.

0:27:22 > 0:27:25Or should I say statements?

0:27:25 > 0:27:28Which version would you like us to believe?

0:27:28 > 0:27:30Objection, My Lord.

0:27:30 > 0:27:33My Lord, I'm merely registering a statement of fact.

0:27:33 > 0:27:36And I'm trying to ascertain which version of the truth,

0:27:36 > 0:27:39from the ones I have in front of me, is in fact the whole truth

0:27:39 > 0:27:40and nothing but the truth.

0:27:40 > 0:27:42I'll allow.

0:27:42 > 0:27:46May I approach the witness, My Lord? It may save the court time

0:27:46 > 0:27:48if he can show me which version is which.

0:27:48 > 0:27:51You may proceed, Mr Stewart.

0:27:54 > 0:27:57I'll repeat the question, Mr Roberts.

0:27:57 > 0:28:00Which version would you like us to believe?

0:28:00 > 0:28:02I...don't know.

0:28:02 > 0:28:06Well, is it the one in which you admit to killing your own mother?

0:28:06 > 0:28:10Or is it the one where you say it was a tragic accident?

0:28:10 > 0:28:13Or is it the one that you've testified to in court today?

0:28:13 > 0:28:16It's the one I've just testified to.

0:28:16 > 0:28:17Could you tell me why

0:28:17 > 0:28:19your statements differ so significantly, Mr Roberts?

0:28:19 > 0:28:22I didn't want my dad to go to jail.

0:28:22 > 0:28:24Sorry, could you explain that to me?

0:28:26 > 0:28:29I gave my first statement because I didn't want my dad to go to jail.

0:28:29 > 0:28:32So, in other words you knew you were lying?

0:28:32 > 0:28:33Yes.

0:28:33 > 0:28:37Can you tell me why are there such significant differences between

0:28:37 > 0:28:41your second statement and what you have testified to in court today?

0:28:41 > 0:28:43I kept remembering more and more details.

0:28:43 > 0:28:45Well, you've admitted to lying before.

0:28:45 > 0:28:47How do I know you're not lying now?

0:28:47 > 0:28:49Objection.

0:28:49 > 0:28:50Sustained.

0:28:50 > 0:28:51I'm telling the truth.

0:28:57 > 0:29:00Did you ever see your mother hit your father?

0:29:00 > 0:29:02Yes, but only in self-defence.

0:29:02 > 0:29:05Well, I'm not asking your opinion on why she did it.

0:29:05 > 0:29:08I'm asking you, did you ever see your mother hit your father?

0:29:08 > 0:29:09Yes, I did.

0:29:09 > 0:29:13And have you ever been violent towards your father?

0:29:13 > 0:29:15Yes, but only in defence.

0:29:15 > 0:29:18Did you recently assault a teacher in your school

0:29:18 > 0:29:20- by throwing a chair at her?- Yes.

0:29:20 > 0:29:23And were you defending yourself on that occasion?

0:29:23 > 0:29:24No.

0:29:24 > 0:29:26And was there any action taken regarding the incident?

0:29:27 > 0:29:29I was arrested and charged with assault.

0:29:29 > 0:29:31And when did this happen?

0:29:31 > 0:29:32A while ago.

0:29:32 > 0:29:34When exactly did it happen?

0:29:35 > 0:29:38On the day that my mother was killed.

0:29:40 > 0:29:42Did you cause substantial damage

0:29:42 > 0:29:45to the residential care home you were sent to?

0:29:45 > 0:29:46Yes.

0:29:46 > 0:29:49And are the injuries that are clearly still so visible on you

0:29:49 > 0:29:51self-inflicted?

0:29:51 > 0:29:53Yes.

0:29:53 > 0:29:56Were you present in the room when your mother was killed?

0:29:56 > 0:29:59- Yes.- When the police arrived at the scene, did your clothes have

0:29:59 > 0:30:01significant amounts of your mother's blood on them?

0:30:01 > 0:30:02Yes.

0:30:02 > 0:30:05And did you move your mother's body from the scene of the crime

0:30:05 > 0:30:07to another room in the house?

0:30:07 > 0:30:08Yes.

0:30:08 > 0:30:11So, your mother was still alive when you moved her?

0:30:11 > 0:30:14I thought she was dead but I tried to wake her.

0:30:14 > 0:30:16You say you thought she was dead.

0:30:16 > 0:30:19Did you think that at the time, or did you find it out later?

0:30:19 > 0:30:21I thought that then.

0:30:21 > 0:30:25You've admitted to lying, Mr Roberts. Are you lying now?

0:30:25 > 0:30:26No.

0:30:26 > 0:30:31Have you recently been receiving treatment in a hospital?

0:30:31 > 0:30:33Yes.

0:30:33 > 0:30:35And did you intend to kill yourself?

0:30:35 > 0:30:37Yes.

0:30:37 > 0:30:40And are you receiving treatment as a result of this?

0:30:40 > 0:30:42Yes.

0:30:42 > 0:30:45Was your father present at the scene when the police arrived?

0:30:45 > 0:30:47No.

0:30:47 > 0:30:50Did you ever hear your father tell you that your mother was dead?

0:30:50 > 0:30:52No.

0:30:52 > 0:30:56Finally, do you feel guilty about the death of your mother?

0:30:56 > 0:31:02Objection, how Peter Roberts feels is not pertinent to this case.

0:31:02 > 0:31:05Yes, I feel guilty for my mother's death.

0:31:07 > 0:31:09It was my fault.

0:31:10 > 0:31:12I have nothing further.

0:31:19 > 0:31:22All those questions, they were just trying to make me sound mad.

0:31:24 > 0:31:27Your evidence was strong, that's all that matters.

0:31:27 > 0:31:32How did they know about the jump? He must have told them.

0:31:32 > 0:31:33It was in the papers, Petey.

0:31:40 > 0:31:44My dad planned those questions. He doesn't care who gets hurt.

0:31:44 > 0:31:47Well, I watched the jury. They believed you.

0:31:48 > 0:31:50Why didn't I stop him?

0:31:51 > 0:31:56Petey, you're just a kid, it's not your fault, OK?

0:31:56 > 0:31:58What's he going to say about my mum?

0:31:58 > 0:31:59Don't let him bother you.

0:31:59 > 0:32:01I'm telling the truth.

0:32:01 > 0:32:04I know you are and you know what, there's at least one other person

0:32:04 > 0:32:07in that court that knows you're telling the truth as well.

0:32:07 > 0:32:09- Who?- Your dad.

0:32:24 > 0:32:27Yep, no problem.

0:32:27 > 0:32:30That's the next two cancelled, one's got a burst boiler

0:32:30 > 0:32:31and the other one's got a mad rash!

0:32:31 > 0:32:34Just when he's actually sorted the place out as well.

0:32:34 > 0:32:37- Does that mean the wages are done? - I'm doing them this afternoon.

0:32:37 > 0:32:40Well, is there any chance I can go home early? I'm not feeling great.

0:32:40 > 0:32:42See the next time you're no' feeling great,

0:32:42 > 0:32:45- will you just phone and let us know. - You should go home, take it easy.

0:32:45 > 0:32:47It's no' as if I've been paying you wages anyway.

0:32:47 > 0:32:49- I'll pop by with them later on. - Thanks.

0:32:51 > 0:32:54PHONE RINGS

0:32:54 > 0:32:57Hello. Yes, speaking.

0:32:59 > 0:33:00What?

0:33:02 > 0:33:06Yeah, aye, I'll get in touch with him

0:33:06 > 0:33:09and get back to you as soon as I can.

0:33:09 > 0:33:11Right, OK. Thanks.

0:33:11 > 0:33:13What is it?

0:33:13 > 0:33:14Will's dad's had a stroke.

0:33:20 > 0:33:24Raise your right hand and repeat after me.

0:33:24 > 0:33:26I swear by Almighty God...

0:33:26 > 0:33:28I swear by Almighty God...

0:33:28 > 0:33:31- ..that I will tell the truth... - ..that I will tell the truth...

0:33:31 > 0:33:33- ..the whole truth... - ..the whole truth...

0:33:33 > 0:33:35..and nothing but the truth.

0:33:35 > 0:33:36..and nothing but the truth.

0:33:38 > 0:33:42How would you describe your relationship with your late wife?

0:33:42 > 0:33:46Well, we loved each other, there's no question about that,

0:33:46 > 0:33:50but sometimes that love could manifest itself in strange ways.

0:33:50 > 0:33:51Could you elaborate?

0:33:53 > 0:33:56She was a very different woman with a drink in her for example,

0:33:56 > 0:33:58always jealous.

0:33:59 > 0:34:02We had an extremely passionate relationship,

0:34:02 > 0:34:05but often we ended up grabbing at each other.

0:34:05 > 0:34:09Occasionally it resulted in a slap, mostly from her to me,

0:34:09 > 0:34:10I have to say.

0:34:10 > 0:34:14Was there a time when you raised your hand to her?

0:34:14 > 0:34:19It was always in self-defence though but I'm not proud of it.

0:34:19 > 0:34:22She used to be apologising to me constantly,

0:34:22 > 0:34:25saying it was her fault, it was her that made me do it.

0:34:25 > 0:34:26Did you love your wife?

0:34:28 > 0:34:30Yeah.

0:34:30 > 0:34:32I miss her.

0:34:32 > 0:34:35She was my soul mate.

0:34:36 > 0:34:38If she'd only been able to control her jealousy,

0:34:38 > 0:34:40we'd have had the perfect relationship.

0:34:40 > 0:34:42Your wife was jealous?

0:34:44 > 0:34:48I couldn't get annoyed at her, she did it through love.

0:34:50 > 0:34:53Always wanting to know who I was with, where I was.

0:34:58 > 0:35:00Would you like a couple of minutes?

0:35:01 > 0:35:04No... No.

0:35:08 > 0:35:11Can you tell me what happened later that day?

0:35:11 > 0:35:16I was in the pub to watch the game, when I met another parent.

0:35:16 > 0:35:19that told me Petey had been arrested.

0:35:19 > 0:35:22And what was your reaction when you heard that news?

0:35:26 > 0:35:28I had a bad feeling about it.

0:35:28 > 0:35:33I'd seen Petey being aggressive many times before.

0:35:33 > 0:35:37I begged for him to stop, but he didn't.

0:35:37 > 0:35:41In the struggle, I slapped my wife to try and bring her to her senses.

0:35:41 > 0:35:44She tripped and fell. It was an accident.

0:35:44 > 0:35:46And what happened then?

0:35:48 > 0:35:52Petey was hysterical, he screamed for me to get out.

0:35:53 > 0:35:55And did you?

0:35:55 > 0:35:58I was making Petey worse by staying.

0:35:58 > 0:36:00I did what I thought was best.

0:36:00 > 0:36:02Your wife was still alive when you left?

0:36:02 > 0:36:04Yeah, yeah, she was.

0:36:04 > 0:36:08You made a statement to the police accepting

0:36:08 > 0:36:12responsibility for your wife's tragic death.

0:36:12 > 0:36:14I wanted to protect my son.

0:36:15 > 0:36:17What father wouldn't?

0:36:17 > 0:36:19It was a horrible accident.

0:36:22 > 0:36:25I have nothing further at this time.

0:36:44 > 0:36:47That was big of you, trying to protect your son.

0:36:49 > 0:36:51He's my son and I love him.

0:36:51 > 0:36:55You slapped your wife to calm her down you said.

0:36:57 > 0:36:59Yeah, I did.

0:36:59 > 0:37:02Karen Roberts sustained a broken left cheekbone,

0:37:02 > 0:37:09perforated eardrum and suffered traumatic cranial haemorrhaging.

0:37:09 > 0:37:11Did she calm down, do you think?

0:37:11 > 0:37:13- Objection.- Sustained.

0:37:15 > 0:37:20I'll withdraw the question. You say you wanted to protect your son.

0:37:22 > 0:37:23I did.

0:37:23 > 0:37:25So, let me get this straight,

0:37:25 > 0:37:31you slapped your wife to calm her down, she lost her balance

0:37:31 > 0:37:34and struck her head on the radiator. Correct?

0:37:35 > 0:37:37Yeah.

0:37:37 > 0:37:41Your son testified to seeing blood splatter from his mother's head

0:37:41 > 0:37:44on the wall, over your face.

0:37:44 > 0:37:46He did.

0:37:46 > 0:37:52A contact lens belonging to you was found at the scene of the crime.

0:37:52 > 0:37:57For the record, I refer to Crown label number 22.

0:38:04 > 0:38:06I could have dropped that any time.

0:38:06 > 0:38:09I didn't even have them in that night.

0:38:09 > 0:38:11Were you wearing glasses?

0:38:14 > 0:38:15No.

0:38:16 > 0:38:20So, you were at a pub to watch a football match

0:38:20 > 0:38:25without your glasses and not wearing any contact lenses.

0:38:25 > 0:38:28Maybe you should have stayed home and listened on the radio.

0:38:28 > 0:38:30JUDGE CLEARS THROAT

0:38:33 > 0:38:37Your contact lens, which was recovered from the scene,

0:38:37 > 0:38:41was found with blood splatter on it. Can you explain how that happened?

0:38:41 > 0:38:44Objection, my client has already stated that he could have

0:38:44 > 0:38:46dropped the contact lens at any time.

0:38:46 > 0:38:49Is he also being forced to speculate upon

0:38:49 > 0:38:52- how blood could have been found upon it?- Sustained.

0:38:54 > 0:38:55I'll rephrase.

0:38:57 > 0:39:02Your contact lens was found with blood splatter on it,

0:39:02 > 0:39:06which could only have come from an upward trajectory.

0:39:06 > 0:39:12Meaning the contact lens was ABOVE the victim

0:39:12 > 0:39:15when the blood splattered on it.

0:39:15 > 0:39:20If the lens wasn't in your eye, how was it above the victim?

0:39:22 > 0:39:26Maybe it had fallen on to the radiator and then fallen off later?

0:39:27 > 0:39:30Finally, what did your wife say?

0:39:32 > 0:39:34What?

0:39:34 > 0:39:36What did Karen Roberts say to you as you were leaving?

0:39:38 > 0:39:40She... She didn't say anything.

0:39:40 > 0:39:41Why?

0:39:44 > 0:39:46Because she was unconscious.

0:39:46 > 0:39:48Unconscious?

0:39:48 > 0:39:53So you left your unconscious wife with a 16-year-old boy,

0:39:53 > 0:39:55and made yourself scarce.

0:39:55 > 0:39:57It's what Petey wanted.

0:39:57 > 0:40:01You could have tried to help your wife, but you didn't.

0:40:01 > 0:40:05You could have phoned for an ambulance, but you didn't.

0:40:05 > 0:40:10You went back to the pub to watch a football match, didn't you?

0:40:10 > 0:40:12Did your team win?

0:40:12 > 0:40:13You're twisting everything.

0:40:13 > 0:40:16Who are you, Mr Roberts?

0:40:16 > 0:40:22The doting father, willing to take the blame for his boy?

0:40:23 > 0:40:29The grieving husband who's lost his wife in a tragic accident?

0:40:29 > 0:40:34Or the man who ran away after killing his wife,

0:40:34 > 0:40:38as she lay in the arms of his 16-year-old son?

0:40:42 > 0:40:45Because YOU had taken her pulse...

0:40:49 > 0:40:52..and already knew that she was dead.

0:41:16 > 0:41:19How long until the verdict?

0:41:19 > 0:41:23No idea. I've given up trying to work juries out.

0:41:24 > 0:41:26What do you think?

0:41:30 > 0:41:33It's too tough to call, that's the honest answer.

0:41:37 > 0:41:40I keep just thinking about how much of a waste it all is.

0:41:41 > 0:41:45A year ago I had a family, look at me now.

0:41:50 > 0:41:54My mum had this green dress that she wore on special occasions.

0:41:56 > 0:41:59He burned holes in it with a lighter,

0:41:59 > 0:42:02she couldn't wear it any more.

0:42:06 > 0:42:09Stop trying to understand why he did it.

0:42:11 > 0:42:13To be honest, I hope you never do.

0:42:15 > 0:42:18Why couldn't he have just been an ordinary guy?

0:42:21 > 0:42:23That's the jury heading back in.

0:42:38 > 0:42:41- See you next week.- Thank you. - Thanks.

0:42:41 > 0:42:43Come on, Will, answer your phone.

0:42:43 > 0:42:47Look, if he's in the court, his phone will be switched off.

0:42:47 > 0:42:49He'll never forgive himself if he doesn't get there.

0:42:49 > 0:42:52Calm down, there's nothing you can do than what you're doing.

0:42:53 > 0:42:55Hi there. Come over.

0:43:02 > 0:43:05Members of the jury, will your spokesperson please stand.

0:43:06 > 0:43:09- Have you reached your verdict? - We have.

0:43:09 > 0:43:12What is your verdict in respect of the accused -

0:43:12 > 0:43:16Dominic William Roberts - on the charge on the indictment?

0:43:16 > 0:43:17Guilty.

0:43:17 > 0:43:20Is that guilty of murder as libelled?

0:43:20 > 0:43:22Yes.

0:43:22 > 0:43:25Is your verdict unanimous, or by a majority?

0:43:25 > 0:43:26Unanimous.

0:43:26 > 0:43:30Thank you. Please be seated as I record your verdict.

0:43:32 > 0:43:37Members of the jury, is your verdict correctly recorded as follows?

0:43:37 > 0:43:41"The jury unanimously find the accused,

0:43:41 > 0:43:43"Dominic William Roberts,

0:43:43 > 0:43:46"guilty as libelled of the charge on the indictment,

0:43:46 > 0:43:49"that being the charge of murder."

0:43:51 > 0:43:52Thank you.

0:43:56 > 0:43:58My Lord, I move for sentence.

0:43:58 > 0:44:01Do you have any mitigations, Mr Stewart?

0:44:01 > 0:44:04I have nothing to add in mitigation, My Lord.

0:44:07 > 0:44:08Mr Roberts.

0:44:10 > 0:44:13Dominic William Roberts,

0:44:13 > 0:44:17you have been found guilty of an appalling crime.

0:44:19 > 0:44:24You arrived at your wife's home intent on having a confrontation.

0:44:24 > 0:44:27But nothing can excuse or justify what followed.

0:44:28 > 0:44:34You chose to inflict violent blows on a defenceless woman

0:44:34 > 0:44:37resulting in her dreadful death,

0:44:37 > 0:44:42in front of the eyes of your very own son.

0:44:44 > 0:44:47The terror and fear inflicted on Peter Roberts

0:44:47 > 0:44:50can hardly be imagined,

0:44:50 > 0:44:55and the bravery of his testimony is commended to this court.

0:44:58 > 0:45:01One can only hope that you will have plenty time to consider

0:45:01 > 0:45:06your actions and reflect on an innocent victim for whom

0:45:06 > 0:45:09you have shown not a FLICKER of remorse.

0:45:12 > 0:45:16You have been found guilty of the crime of murder,

0:45:16 > 0:45:22for which you must serve a term of life imprisonment,

0:45:22 > 0:45:24of which 15 years must be served

0:45:24 > 0:45:27before you will be considered for parole.

0:45:28 > 0:45:29Take him down.

0:45:49 > 0:45:51I love you, Petey.

0:46:25 > 0:46:28I'll be out of the recovery centre in a couple of weeks.

0:46:28 > 0:46:30Where will I go then?

0:46:30 > 0:46:33I think they're going to find some temporary foster care for you,

0:46:33 > 0:46:35until you're better.

0:46:38 > 0:46:40Can't I come and stay with you?

0:46:43 > 0:46:47- Aw, mate, that wouldn't be possible. - Why not?

0:46:49 > 0:46:52Well, because I live on my own and I'm a serving police officer.

0:46:52 > 0:46:54My shift patterns alone would mean I'm not suitable.

0:46:54 > 0:46:56I wouldn't be any trouble.

0:46:56 > 0:47:00Aw, mate, I know. It's not a question of that.

0:47:00 > 0:47:02You wouldn't notice me like.

0:47:05 > 0:47:07I'm sorry, mate, it's not possible.

0:47:15 > 0:47:17I meant to talk to you about it the other day.

0:47:17 > 0:47:21But you know you say that you still see your mum in your dreams?

0:47:21 > 0:47:24That's a good thing.

0:47:28 > 0:47:30Do you see yours?

0:47:30 > 0:47:33Yeah, I mean, I've forgotten to look for her of late,

0:47:33 > 0:47:36but I still see her. Yeah.

0:47:44 > 0:47:47Almost forgot, I thought you might want these.

0:47:49 > 0:47:51England versus Scotland.

0:47:51 > 0:47:55Yep. They're playing at Wembley in August, first time in ages.

0:47:55 > 0:47:57These are like...gold dust.

0:47:57 > 0:48:00I thought you could hold on to them

0:48:00 > 0:48:02and we could plan a trip down to London together.

0:48:02 > 0:48:05Brilliant. Thanks.

0:48:10 > 0:48:12Who will you be supporting?

0:48:12 > 0:48:14England.

0:48:14 > 0:48:16HE LAUGHS

0:48:16 > 0:48:19- I'm not going in the England end. - Yeah, they're for the Scotland end.

0:48:19 > 0:48:22Don't worry, I'll have to do my best Scottish accent.

0:48:25 > 0:48:26Right, come on. Let's go.

0:48:50 > 0:48:52- And now what?- Sorry?

0:48:52 > 0:48:55Petey, he gave his evidence,

0:48:55 > 0:48:59helped put his father away for a very long time, what happens to him now?

0:48:59 > 0:49:02You say cheerio and good luck.

0:49:02 > 0:49:04You did your job, and he did his.

0:49:07 > 0:49:09It doesn't feel right just to walk away.

0:49:09 > 0:49:12Am I missing something?

0:49:12 > 0:49:14I feel responsible for him.

0:49:15 > 0:49:18You helped convict his mother's killer,

0:49:18 > 0:49:20because that's what you're paid to do.

0:49:20 > 0:49:22You're not responsible for Petey Roberts.

0:49:22 > 0:49:23Then who is?

0:49:23 > 0:49:24Oh, boy.

0:49:24 > 0:49:27You get too involved in this you're gonnae have to jack it in.

0:49:27 > 0:49:29You do the bit you're supposed to,

0:49:29 > 0:49:31then get on with the rest of your job.

0:49:31 > 0:49:33PHONE RINGS

0:49:33 > 0:49:34DCI Donald.

0:49:34 > 0:49:38Hi there. Yeah, hold on. It's for you, it's Robbie.

0:49:44 > 0:49:46Hello?

0:49:58 > 0:50:02INAUDIBLE CONVERSATION

0:50:34 > 0:50:36Thank you so much for coming.

0:50:36 > 0:50:40I couldn't see you at the office after I'd had a glass of wine.

0:50:40 > 0:50:42Petey's father got found guilty of murder.

0:50:42 > 0:50:45Well, that's good, isn't it?

0:50:45 > 0:50:49That kid was brave, facing up to what he feared the most.

0:50:49 > 0:50:51You admired that?

0:50:51 > 0:50:53I did.

0:50:53 > 0:50:55Maybe even helped him to do that?

0:50:57 > 0:51:00I think I'm very good at telling people what to do.

0:51:00 > 0:51:02I just sat in that court

0:51:02 > 0:51:06and all I could think of was how much of an animal the father was.

0:51:06 > 0:51:08And that he wasn't much more different from me.

0:51:08 > 0:51:11How so?

0:51:11 > 0:51:13He's an abuser, and so am I.

0:51:15 > 0:51:20He attacked her, humiliated her, dominated, betrayed her and bullied.

0:51:20 > 0:51:22I did all those things.

0:51:23 > 0:51:25How did that make you feel?

0:51:27 > 0:51:29Like a... Like a hypocrite.

0:51:33 > 0:51:36Do you remember when we were talking about triggers

0:51:36 > 0:51:38that might ignite your behaviour?

0:51:38 > 0:51:41Did any of those come to mind when you were sat in that court?

0:51:43 > 0:51:45Yeah. Yeah, they did.

0:51:45 > 0:51:47Can we discuss that?

0:51:47 > 0:51:48HE SIGHS

0:51:50 > 0:51:53I told you when my father came home from work,

0:51:53 > 0:51:56he used to make us dinner and then go to his room.

0:51:56 > 0:51:58Yes, you did.

0:51:58 > 0:51:59I remembered why.

0:52:01 > 0:52:03Why was that?

0:52:03 > 0:52:05HE SIGHS

0:52:08 > 0:52:11Because we lost Mum.

0:52:11 > 0:52:16He was fine before she died and if he wasn't, she used to sort him out.

0:52:19 > 0:52:22He used to go up to his room and cry.

0:52:24 > 0:52:27Me and my sister used to hear him sobbing.

0:52:27 > 0:52:29He did it every night for years.

0:52:29 > 0:52:31How did that make you feel?

0:52:34 > 0:52:37I hardly noticed it. After a while, I got used to it.

0:52:40 > 0:52:44The thing is, he never stopped me bringing my friends back,

0:52:44 > 0:52:46I didn't want to bring them back.

0:52:46 > 0:52:49He embarrassed you?

0:52:49 > 0:52:50No, he annoyed me.

0:52:53 > 0:52:54He had me and my sister to look after,

0:52:54 > 0:52:56all he cared about was his own feelings.

0:52:56 > 0:53:00Did your family ever talk about your mum?

0:53:02 > 0:53:03No.

0:53:04 > 0:53:06She annoyed me too.

0:53:06 > 0:53:07Why?

0:53:09 > 0:53:10Because she left.

0:53:10 > 0:53:12She didn't choose to leave.

0:53:12 > 0:53:14I know, I was just a kid.

0:53:16 > 0:53:18Were you close to your mum?

0:53:29 > 0:53:31She knew about me.

0:53:32 > 0:53:35She said my sexuality was my own business.

0:53:35 > 0:53:39She said she'd speak to my dad but...she never did.

0:53:43 > 0:53:47Is it possible that your father was so overwhelmed with grief that

0:53:47 > 0:53:50that's why he behaved the way he did towards you?

0:53:59 > 0:54:01HE SNIFFLES

0:54:04 > 0:54:10All I know is that I allowed him to treat me like that all my life.

0:54:10 > 0:54:17I was... I'm angry at him, but I'm more angry with myself.

0:54:19 > 0:54:20And your mum?

0:54:22 > 0:54:26Sometimes I still see her, when I least expect it.

0:54:29 > 0:54:32I see her but I can't find her.

0:56:07 > 0:56:09- Pedro?- Where's Kennedy?

0:56:09 > 0:56:14He's no' coming. Change of plan, I'm looking after things now.

0:56:14 > 0:56:15I only deal with Kennedy.

0:56:15 > 0:56:17Not any more.

0:56:17 > 0:56:19I've met a boy that I like, and who likes me.

0:56:19 > 0:56:21Can you no' just be happy?

0:56:21 > 0:56:22Just be careful.

0:56:22 > 0:56:24- I need her gone.- Who?

0:56:24 > 0:56:27The wee lassie that went running to the police.

0:56:27 > 0:56:29I don't want anybody else knowing about this.

0:56:29 > 0:56:33Especially Murdoch. I want this job done proper.

0:56:33 > 0:56:35So you'll need the right tools for the job.

0:56:35 > 0:56:37Aye, you're doing well. I can trust you.

0:56:37 > 0:56:40Which is more than I can say for a lot of them.

0:56:40 > 0:56:41'Hello?'

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