0:00:02 > 0:00:10This programme contains some scenes which some viewers may find upsetting from the start.
0:00:20 > 0:00:21You OK?
0:00:25 > 0:00:27It's all right to feel afraid.
0:00:28 > 0:00:30It's all right to feel anything.
0:00:32 > 0:00:34I'm here for you.
0:00:43 > 0:00:45I see it's catching, my paranoia.
0:00:47 > 0:00:50You're safe, Paul. Trust me.
0:00:50 > 0:00:51We talked about pushing yourself,
0:00:51 > 0:00:54getting back out there from the start.
0:00:54 > 0:00:56You're so sure about this, aren't you?
0:00:57 > 0:00:59Yeah, we are.
0:00:59 > 0:01:03Only takes one person to recognise me and I'm screwed.
0:01:06 > 0:01:09DOG BARKS
0:01:18 > 0:01:21Doesn't mean you can go on holiday.
0:01:26 > 0:01:28Paul's got a future.
0:01:29 > 0:01:32Paul can have the life he wants.
0:01:34 > 0:01:36- Why are you smiling?- You.
0:01:37 > 0:01:39All those years,
0:01:39 > 0:01:41"Tell the truth.
0:01:41 > 0:01:43"Face the truth."
0:01:45 > 0:01:46Now you're teaching me to lie.
0:02:05 > 0:02:06It's just me.
0:02:11 > 0:02:12You can't be here.
0:02:15 > 0:02:17What do you think you're doing?
0:02:17 > 0:02:18Hmm?
0:02:18 > 0:02:20Why don't you answer the phone?
0:02:20 > 0:02:23You're a mess, you need help.
0:02:23 > 0:02:25You said you'd help me out.
0:02:25 > 0:02:27I ain't doing that again.
0:02:28 > 0:02:30You want people here knowing what you did?
0:02:33 > 0:02:35I'd never, I'd never!
0:02:35 > 0:02:37Please, help me.
0:02:37 > 0:02:39Please. You said you'd get me the drugs.
0:02:39 > 0:02:41I'm sorry, I'm sorry!
0:03:42 > 0:03:44KNOCK AT DOOR
0:03:57 > 0:04:05# Testator silens
0:04:05 > 0:04:13# Costestes e spiritu
0:04:13 > 0:04:24# Silentium. #
0:04:27 > 0:04:28Thanks.
0:04:30 > 0:04:32Superintendent Clive Mitchell.
0:04:32 > 0:04:34- Lyell Centre, Nikki Alexander, Jack Hodgson.- DI Snow.
0:04:34 > 0:04:38- Not often we're met by the Super. - Not often we get one like this.
0:04:49 > 0:04:52David Sellars, 31.
0:04:55 > 0:05:00Multiple wounds to the torso, forearms, hands, neck.
0:05:00 > 0:05:02Forehead and scalp also.
0:05:03 > 0:05:04Is there a weapon?
0:05:04 > 0:05:05No.
0:05:05 > 0:05:09Time of death most likely 7.45 yesterday evening.
0:05:09 > 0:05:10That was fast.
0:05:13 > 0:05:16- Huh.- We'll verify, but with wounds like this,
0:05:16 > 0:05:19attack and death won't be very far apart.
0:05:19 > 0:05:20It is odd, though.
0:05:20 > 0:05:23What's odd?
0:05:23 > 0:05:26There should be way more blood. Excuse me.
0:05:26 > 0:05:28HE SKOOSHES A SPRAY
0:05:40 > 0:05:42Someone's tried to clean up.
0:05:42 > 0:05:43Is this his place?
0:05:43 > 0:05:45Tenant. Let's owned by the probation service,
0:05:45 > 0:05:47they've got several units on this estate.
0:05:47 > 0:05:50- How long has he been out of prison? - Six months.- What was he in for?
0:05:50 > 0:05:52He did 12 years...
0:05:53 > 0:05:55..for killing his mother.
0:05:57 > 0:06:01The kid who used to dream is still in here,
0:06:01 > 0:06:04but I just stopped believing it.
0:06:06 > 0:06:08Cocaine,
0:06:08 > 0:06:11vodka, cash,
0:06:11 > 0:06:13being the man,
0:06:13 > 0:06:15being feared.
0:06:15 > 0:06:20Took a long time to learn it's OK to be afraid.
0:06:22 > 0:06:24Being in that club...
0:06:25 > 0:06:27..watching my girl get hit on,
0:06:27 > 0:06:31those two touching her when she never wanted it...
0:06:33 > 0:06:35I chose what happened next.
0:06:35 > 0:06:37I chose to follow them into that car park.
0:06:37 > 0:06:39I could've walked away...
0:06:40 > 0:06:42..but I took a baseball bat...
0:06:43 > 0:06:46..and I ended their lives,
0:06:46 > 0:06:47ruined so many others.
0:06:51 > 0:06:54You never pay back what you did, never goes away.
0:06:56 > 0:07:00Only evil is to admit nothing, deny.
0:07:02 > 0:07:04No-one here's doing that.
0:07:04 > 0:07:06Everyone here has taken a life,
0:07:06 > 0:07:10so a life licence gives you the chance of a new beginning.
0:07:10 > 0:07:14I believe that earns you the right to dream again.
0:07:15 > 0:07:17It worked for me.
0:07:18 > 0:07:20Watch that one, though.
0:07:21 > 0:07:22She'll do your head in.
0:07:22 > 0:07:24LAUGHTER
0:07:27 > 0:07:30- All right, mate, cheers. - That was really helpful, thank you.
0:07:30 > 0:07:32Nice one, mate.
0:07:32 > 0:07:33Cheers.
0:07:35 > 0:07:38- Don't make me do that again. - First time back is tough.
0:07:38 > 0:07:41Problem share's a pain in the arse, didn't you teach me that?
0:07:41 > 0:07:44It's always good that they hear it from someone who's been through
0:07:44 > 0:07:46the system. You were brave, we were listening.
0:07:46 > 0:07:50Maybe I should branch out - kids' parties, weddings.
0:07:51 > 0:07:53Erm...
0:07:53 > 0:07:55Well, I ain't going to light it.
0:07:57 > 0:08:01You've been a good support to Ben, and really positive.
0:08:01 > 0:08:03He's done all the hard work. With your help.
0:08:03 > 0:08:05PHONE BUZZES
0:08:05 > 0:08:06Excuse me.
0:08:08 > 0:08:10Sasha Blackburn, Origins Centre.
0:08:14 > 0:08:15Yes.
0:08:15 > 0:08:17I'll be there.
0:08:17 > 0:08:18Sasha?
0:08:18 > 0:08:19It's David.
0:08:47 > 0:08:5260 plus narrow stab wounds to the torso, neck, face.
0:08:53 > 0:08:58Further incised wounds to the palms and arms.
0:08:58 > 0:09:01He was probably struggling to defend himself for most of the attack.
0:09:03 > 0:09:06Wound orientation and grouping suggests a rapid assault.
0:09:06 > 0:09:08Slim blade, probably a knife.
0:09:09 > 0:09:11Single edge, non-serrated.
0:09:11 > 0:09:14Both forearms show multiple keloid scars.
0:09:14 > 0:09:17Mm, some of the worst I've seen.
0:09:18 > 0:09:23Some of them are still healing, suggestion of prolonged self-harm.
0:09:23 > 0:09:25- Or abuse.- Mm.
0:09:26 > 0:09:29Also evidence of heat damage to the dermis.
0:09:29 > 0:09:31It's branding.
0:09:31 > 0:09:35David marked himself every year, his mother's birthday.
0:09:35 > 0:09:39This is Dr Blackburn, forensic psych attached to the Origins Centre,
0:09:39 > 0:09:42the lifers' rehab unit Sellars attended.
0:09:46 > 0:09:48His feet are abraded and lacerated.
0:09:48 > 0:09:52David suffered from schizoaffective disorder.
0:09:52 > 0:09:56During bad episodes he'd often go barefoot, hallucinate.
0:09:56 > 0:09:59- Was he in the middle of a psychotic episode?- He wasn't stable.
0:09:59 > 0:10:03The last few weeks, I'd been seeing him regularly.
0:10:03 > 0:10:06I was pushing for a hospital stay.
0:10:08 > 0:10:12There's a callous on his lower shin. Did he wear an ankle tag?
0:10:12 > 0:10:13He didn't have one on?
0:10:15 > 0:10:18He must have taken it off.
0:10:18 > 0:10:20He had consented to GPS monitoring.
0:10:20 > 0:10:23Some prefer that to daily signings or police visits.
0:10:23 > 0:10:26- Can we get that data, please?- Yeah.
0:10:28 > 0:10:29Nikki...
0:10:29 > 0:10:31have you ever seen that before?
0:10:32 > 0:10:33No.
0:10:36 > 0:10:40Small intestine, it's the wrong colour. It's bright purple.
0:10:42 > 0:10:46I was a prep cook at a university.
0:10:48 > 0:10:52It was a big kitchen, like a canteen, erm, for students.
0:10:52 > 0:10:54Can you use a fry tank?
0:10:55 > 0:10:57What? No, I did breakfasts, mostly.
0:10:58 > 0:11:02Worked on the cruise ships two years. Where did that take you?
0:11:02 > 0:11:03The Mediterranean.
0:11:03 > 0:11:05Catch anything I should know about?
0:11:07 > 0:11:08I'm winding you up.
0:11:10 > 0:11:12We use a candidate verify service.
0:11:13 > 0:11:15Background checks.
0:11:15 > 0:11:17You're alone with a till.
0:11:17 > 0:11:19Unless you're an armed robber, you'll be fine.
0:11:19 > 0:11:21You Mill Wall or The Addicks?
0:11:23 > 0:11:25A South London boy, not into your football?
0:11:31 > 0:11:342003, David Sellars was sentenced to life for the murder
0:11:34 > 0:11:37of Mary Sellars, his mother.
0:11:37 > 0:11:41Judge set minimum term of ten years, Sellars served 12.
0:11:41 > 0:11:42So there were problems inside.
0:11:42 > 0:11:45He started off in secure hospitals.
0:11:45 > 0:11:48When medication stabilised him, he improved.
0:11:48 > 0:11:51Moved to prison, where I helped with his rehab.
0:11:51 > 0:11:54He struggled but tried really hard.
0:11:54 > 0:11:56He was released on licence last year.
0:11:56 > 0:12:01David stabbed his mother with a fire poker which he heated first, yeah?
0:12:01 > 0:12:02Correct.
0:12:02 > 0:12:04How did you find him?
0:12:04 > 0:12:06Regarding his offence?
0:12:06 > 0:12:07Yeah.
0:12:07 > 0:12:09Remorseful, lucid.
0:12:11 > 0:12:15On medication, David was capable of objectivity, good judgment.
0:12:15 > 0:12:18His psychometric scores improved year on year.
0:12:18 > 0:12:21I had no evidence not to recommend him for release.
0:12:21 > 0:12:24- And what was behind his recent relapse?- It's difficult to say.
0:12:24 > 0:12:27Just stopped communicating.
0:12:27 > 0:12:30Main reason I was considering the section order.
0:12:30 > 0:12:34Without meds, people with schizophrenia can become unstable.
0:12:34 > 0:12:36On rare occasions, violent.
0:12:37 > 0:12:40But they're all extremely vulnerable.
0:12:45 > 0:12:49Right, no weapon yet but the clean-up job seems odd.
0:12:49 > 0:12:52Frenzied attack, the killer sticks around to mop up
0:12:52 > 0:12:55and has the presence of mind to dispose of the cleaning gear.
0:12:55 > 0:12:57We're doing a deep search for the murder weapon.
0:12:57 > 0:13:00- We need to widen the net for DNA. - I'm on it next.
0:13:00 > 0:13:01Swabs from all the residents.
0:13:07 > 0:13:09Interesting career choice,
0:13:09 > 0:13:12spend your day with the most violent men in the country.
0:13:12 > 0:13:16Whereas our job's entirely free of unresolved personal issues(!)
0:13:16 > 0:13:18So, purple intestine's calling me.
0:13:19 > 0:13:21Thomas.
0:13:37 > 0:13:38All right?
0:13:56 > 0:13:58He was attacked in his flat.
0:13:59 > 0:14:02I know you were close in Redhill.
0:14:04 > 0:14:06I'm sorry.
0:14:06 > 0:14:07They know who done it?
0:14:07 > 0:14:08Not yet.
0:14:10 > 0:14:11Where are they burying him?
0:14:15 > 0:14:17It don't matter, does it? No-one will be there.
0:14:19 > 0:14:21I won't be there, will I?
0:14:24 > 0:14:27We used to joke who'd have the emptiest church, him or me.
0:14:27 > 0:14:30- I'll be there. - Yeah, you don't give up on anyone.
0:14:30 > 0:14:34Look, I know it's really hard, but you have to focus on your progress.
0:14:34 > 0:14:35- I am.- I spoke to the agency and they said
0:14:35 > 0:14:37that you walked out of your job interview.
0:14:37 > 0:14:39He smelt me out.
0:14:39 > 0:14:42- He knew it was bullshit, it's all bullshit.- Paul. Paul!
0:14:42 > 0:14:44You don't get it!
0:14:44 > 0:14:47The things we've done, they don't go away.
0:14:47 > 0:14:49No, we just run from it.
0:14:49 > 0:14:51SHE SIGHS
0:15:04 > 0:15:06DOOR CREAKS
0:15:14 > 0:15:15Four o'clock, Marcus.
0:15:46 > 0:15:49Always better the prison governor's on side.
0:15:49 > 0:15:53- We can move that one there. - That one, yes, that'd be...
0:15:55 > 0:15:56Hi, Sylvie.
0:15:59 > 0:16:04You're not so hard to find. Our boy's name's right above the door.
0:16:04 > 0:16:05Had a drink today, Ted?
0:16:05 > 0:16:08Is that your business any more?
0:16:08 > 0:16:09You're in my office.
0:16:09 > 0:16:11Is Connor here?
0:16:19 > 0:16:21So you've heard, then.
0:16:23 > 0:16:24He's out, Sylvie.
0:16:27 > 0:16:28I was going to call you.
0:16:30 > 0:16:31Yeah, I can see you're busy.
0:16:37 > 0:16:39They told me I could have some counselling,
0:16:39 > 0:16:41it'll help process my feelings.
0:16:41 > 0:16:42What do you reckon?
0:16:44 > 0:16:48Maybe you could get me together with Joe. Try to forgive.
0:16:49 > 0:16:50Never forget.
0:16:50 > 0:16:53- You should talk to someone. - What if I found out where he lives?
0:16:55 > 0:16:59Still got some old contacts. We met some good coppers, didn't we?
0:16:59 > 0:17:01You promised me you'd do nothing to him.
0:17:01 > 0:17:02Ever.
0:17:07 > 0:17:08When I still loved you...
0:17:09 > 0:17:10..you promised me.
0:17:12 > 0:17:13Promise me again.
0:17:14 > 0:17:15Now.
0:17:23 > 0:17:25HE CLEARS HIS THROAT
0:17:27 > 0:17:31I know you're in there, Connor, lad, I know you are.
0:17:31 > 0:17:33I just want you to know I respect your decision to
0:17:33 > 0:17:37ignore your father for almost six or seven years, totally respect that.
0:17:37 > 0:17:40Free country, especially if you're Joe Sherringham.
0:17:40 > 0:17:42Do you want to be here when the police arrive?
0:17:46 > 0:17:49I don't have any photographs of him any more.
0:17:51 > 0:17:52Can't...
0:17:56 > 0:17:57..of my little boy.
0:18:00 > 0:18:02How can you bear to have them?
0:18:02 > 0:18:05Just have him look at you, every day?
0:18:07 > 0:18:09How can you do that, Sylvie?
0:18:23 > 0:18:25I was going to tell you.
0:18:28 > 0:18:29I'm sorry.
0:18:43 > 0:18:44Forensics, right?
0:18:44 > 0:18:48- Yep.- One of your guys said it's a right mess up there.
0:18:48 > 0:18:49Did you get anything?
0:18:51 > 0:18:52And you are...?
0:18:52 > 0:18:53Ryan White, warden.
0:18:55 > 0:18:59I was on the force, two years. I told your Super I'd help if I can.
0:18:59 > 0:19:02- Two years? Not long.- Paper worker.
0:19:02 > 0:19:06I wanted to be on the street, making a difference.
0:19:06 > 0:19:08Has the graffiti been going on long?
0:19:08 > 0:19:10A few months.
0:19:10 > 0:19:12This is a decent community.
0:19:12 > 0:19:17There's a few ex-cons, lifers - God knows what they did.
0:19:17 > 0:19:20But probation says they're safe, so...
0:19:20 > 0:19:24- Is that anything to do with all this, the paint?- It's probably just kids.
0:19:24 > 0:19:27- I'll need a swab from you, for the record.- Anything I can do.
0:19:27 > 0:19:30Do you want a cup of tea while you're at it?
0:19:36 > 0:19:38- Tea or coffee?- Tea, please.
0:19:45 > 0:19:48That spray paint's a nightmare to clean off.
0:19:52 > 0:19:54Yeah, it must get all over you.
0:19:59 > 0:20:00Can I use your bathroom?
0:20:01 > 0:20:03Sure, it's downstairs.
0:20:03 > 0:20:04Thanks.
0:20:16 > 0:20:17Yellow paint.
0:20:37 > 0:20:38Blood.
0:20:50 > 0:20:52Someone's been busy.
0:20:52 > 0:20:54Do you take sugar? >
0:20:56 > 0:20:58TOILET FLUSHES
0:20:59 > 0:21:01Text from the office. Sorry, got to go.
0:21:08 > 0:21:13Snow? It's Jack Hodgson. I'm outside flat 63, the warden, Ryan White.
0:21:13 > 0:21:16There's blood in his bathroom - better get down here.
0:21:18 > 0:21:21Oh, shit...
0:21:21 > 0:21:23Man, I hate it when they run!
0:21:28 > 0:21:30Stop, police!
0:21:50 > 0:21:51Get up!
0:21:56 > 0:21:59Clarissa, the discolouration we noticed in the intestine,
0:21:59 > 0:22:01anything yet?
0:22:01 > 0:22:04SHE SPEAKS BULGARIAN
0:22:06 > 0:22:07What?
0:22:07 > 0:22:10- It's Bulgarian for cow.- Really?
0:22:10 > 0:22:12Bovine diazepam.
0:22:12 > 0:22:16They add a purple dye to show it's unlicensed for human consumption.
0:22:16 > 0:22:20This batch was manufactured by a chemical company in Gabrovo.
0:22:20 > 0:22:23The deceased probably got it illegally online.
0:22:24 > 0:22:27Much like my fluent Bulgarian!
0:22:27 > 0:22:29Don't worry, I'm all over it...
0:22:29 > 0:22:31Shef.
0:22:31 > 0:22:33- Sorry I'm late. - Hey, it's your mum!
0:22:33 > 0:22:34Hey.
0:22:37 > 0:22:40- Mum!- He scored twice.- Twice?
0:22:40 > 0:22:41Max, that's brilliant!
0:22:41 > 0:22:44We thought you were going to be there.
0:22:44 > 0:22:45I'm sorry, sweetheart.
0:22:47 > 0:22:50I'll be there next time for your hat-trick, I promise.
0:22:50 > 0:22:52OK.
0:22:56 > 0:22:58He was fine.
0:22:58 > 0:23:00It's you I'm worried about.
0:23:00 > 0:23:02- Since the divorce...- Mum.
0:23:04 > 0:23:06Why don't I cook tea?
0:23:06 > 0:23:08Let me just... Let me just get rid of all this.
0:23:27 > 0:23:30PHONE RINGING
0:23:30 > 0:23:32Hi, it's me.
0:23:51 > 0:23:54We found aerosol paints on your clothes.
0:23:54 > 0:23:57Matches paint found outside the victim's front door.
0:23:58 > 0:24:02Yeah, a can went missing from my workshop a few days ago.
0:24:02 > 0:24:06There are also traces of blood in your bathroom and on your trainers.
0:24:06 > 0:24:07David Sellars' blood.
0:24:08 > 0:24:11Why did you wash your trainers, Ryan?
0:24:11 > 0:24:12I don't know anything about blood.
0:24:12 > 0:24:14Then, why did you run?
0:24:14 > 0:24:15I panicked.
0:24:18 > 0:24:21I asked that forensics guy back to my flat.
0:24:21 > 0:24:24Why would I do that if I'd just murdered someone?
0:24:24 > 0:24:28The probation service use some of those flats for ex-offenders.
0:24:28 > 0:24:31How do you feel about that, having ex-cons in your block?
0:24:31 > 0:24:33Nice flats, all paid for.
0:24:33 > 0:24:36Everyone deserves a second chance.
0:24:36 > 0:24:39You haven't had many yourself, though, have you, Ryan?
0:24:39 > 0:24:41Eh?
0:24:41 > 0:24:43I mean, the police force didn't want you.
0:24:43 > 0:24:46It seems you expressed some pretty strong views at interview.
0:24:46 > 0:24:49Life should be for life, police's hands are tied.
0:24:49 > 0:24:52Then, you got divorced soon after, so...
0:24:52 > 0:24:54no second chances there, either.
0:24:54 > 0:24:59How often do you see your kids now that Mary's moved to Scotland?
0:24:59 > 0:25:02She never applied for a restraining order, so you're not denied access.
0:25:02 > 0:25:04Don't you want to see them?
0:25:05 > 0:25:07Or don't they want to see you?
0:25:08 > 0:25:10Hard for any father,
0:25:10 > 0:25:12that kind of rejection.
0:25:15 > 0:25:18Do you know what that freak did to his own mother?
0:25:18 > 0:25:19Yeah.
0:25:19 > 0:25:20Yeah.
0:25:20 > 0:25:21And now I know you did too.
0:25:23 > 0:25:27Failed marriage, failed cop, prejudiced, the aerosol,
0:25:27 > 0:25:29access to the flat, fled the scene.
0:25:31 > 0:25:32Not a big leap for the jury.
0:25:39 > 0:25:41I went up.
0:25:41 > 0:25:44I wanted to see him, wash the graffiti off again.
0:25:45 > 0:25:48- And I saw... - You cleaned your tracks.
0:25:48 > 0:25:51Why didn't you just call the police, Ryan?
0:25:51 > 0:25:53I wasn't thinking straight.
0:25:53 > 0:25:55I thought if someone knew about the graffiti,
0:25:55 > 0:25:58if they saw my...footprints...
0:26:01 > 0:26:05You can do me for that if you want, but I never killed him, I swear!
0:26:41 > 0:26:45Tell me you got something new. We can't hold Ryan White much longer.
0:26:45 > 0:26:49- We tracked the tag that David Sellars wore up until last week.- Yeah.
0:26:49 > 0:26:54Most days he never left his flat, but two weeks ago, he made quite a trip.
0:26:56 > 0:26:58Yeah, right across town.
0:26:59 > 0:27:01- What's this?- Residential flats.
0:27:01 > 0:27:04He was outside one of them for three hours.
0:27:04 > 0:27:05Waiting for someone?
0:27:06 > 0:27:10- Yeah, check the occupant. If it's good, bring him in.- Sir.
0:27:10 > 0:27:13KNOCK ON DOOR
0:27:21 > 0:27:22Paul Raynott?
0:27:28 > 0:27:30So, this is your idea too.
0:27:30 > 0:27:33What, to use full resources? Absolutely.
0:27:33 > 0:27:34Where's the suspect?
0:27:34 > 0:27:37He's not a suspect.
0:27:37 > 0:27:38We have a person of interest.
0:27:38 > 0:27:41On his consent, we'd like to do some tests after interview.
0:27:41 > 0:27:47Sorry, during which you intend to bring up the matter of his identity.
0:27:47 > 0:27:51- Are you serious? Absolutely.- Then, these people do not need to be here.
0:27:53 > 0:27:57- My client's safety means he's a very vulnerable case.- Who's the client?
0:27:57 > 0:28:00Look, are we part of this investigation or not?
0:28:00 > 0:28:04How can we contribute unless we know who and what we're dealing with?
0:28:04 > 0:28:06Excuse me.
0:28:06 > 0:28:07DI Snow will be taking notes.
0:28:10 > 0:28:12Should I have a lawyer, then?
0:28:12 > 0:28:16You're not under caution, this is a witness interview.
0:28:16 > 0:28:18You understand why you're here.
0:28:22 > 0:28:25What would you like me to call you?
0:28:25 > 0:28:26Paul.
0:28:26 > 0:28:28Do you know why you're here, Paul?
0:28:29 > 0:28:31David's dead.
0:28:31 > 0:28:33Describe your relationship with David Sellars
0:28:33 > 0:28:35when you were both at Redhill.
0:28:35 > 0:28:38He looked out for me. Not many did.
0:28:38 > 0:28:39When did you last see him?
0:28:41 > 0:28:43Ages ago, inside.
0:28:43 > 0:28:45So, no contact since, of any kind?
0:28:48 > 0:28:54This is a record of a journey that David Sellars made three weeks ago.
0:28:56 > 0:28:58He visited your address.
0:28:58 > 0:29:00Can you tell us about that?
0:29:03 > 0:29:05- I don't understand that. - Did you see him that day?
0:29:05 > 0:29:07- No, never. - How did he know where to find you?
0:29:07 > 0:29:10- I don't know.- Your new ID, address -
0:29:10 > 0:29:13that's all highly-protected information.
0:29:13 > 0:29:17- How did he know where you were? - Paul answered the question.
0:29:17 > 0:29:19I know you're Joe Sherringham.
0:29:22 > 0:29:24A child killer.
0:29:24 > 0:29:25Joe Sherringham?
0:29:25 > 0:29:29A willing participant in one of the most notorious child murders
0:29:29 > 0:29:30in recent history.
0:29:30 > 0:29:32Craig Blake murder.
0:29:34 > 0:29:37Since release, you've been on daily signing with probation.
0:29:37 > 0:29:39You've been late for some of these.
0:29:39 > 0:29:42I lose track of time a bit, it's only happened twice.
0:29:42 > 0:29:44Tell me where you were last night between 7pm and 10pm.
0:29:44 > 0:29:47- I never killed David. - Just answer the question, please.
0:29:47 > 0:29:49- In my flat. - Can anyone confirm that?
0:29:49 > 0:29:51No. I was on my own.
0:29:59 > 0:30:02Can't imagine anything more lonely. Living with your secret.
0:30:02 > 0:30:05Pretending to the outside world that you're something you're not.
0:30:05 > 0:30:09- Superintendent... - Of course you needed a friend.
0:30:09 > 0:30:11Someone who knows who Paul really is.
0:30:13 > 0:30:15But then, he became a liability.
0:30:15 > 0:30:18- You felt sorry for him, but you couldn't help...- Please be quiet.
0:30:18 > 0:30:21Must have been very, very scary.
0:30:22 > 0:30:24Thinking about what he could do.
0:30:25 > 0:30:27What he knew.
0:30:27 > 0:30:29What would Joe have done?
0:30:29 > 0:30:32What would Joe have to do to stay safe?
0:30:32 > 0:30:33Joe wouldn't be scared.
0:30:35 > 0:30:37Stop this interview!
0:30:39 > 0:30:42I'm not Joe any more. I've done nothing.
0:30:47 > 0:30:51Did you see how he looked at me? Proper copper that one, innit?
0:30:51 > 0:30:53I know that look! He thinks I'm a monster.
0:30:53 > 0:30:56Is there anything you're not telling me? Because now's the time.
0:30:56 > 0:30:59- Did you contact David? - You don't believe me.
0:30:59 > 0:31:01- Will you just come and talk to Probation.- See, I know what's coming.
0:31:01 > 0:31:04What do I have to do? I'll do it. Daily signing?
0:31:04 > 0:31:07- I'll do curfews, tag me, I don't care.- Not prison, a safe house.
0:31:07 > 0:31:11- You come and go, I will see you every day.- This is them, they want this.
0:31:11 > 0:31:14Paul, it's about what's best for you.
0:31:16 > 0:31:20Then, arrest me. Cos I ain't walking back in, no chance!
0:31:26 > 0:31:28PHONE RINGING
0:31:28 > 0:31:30I need Paul Raynott's offender manager.
0:31:32 > 0:31:34I've just spoken to Probation Services.
0:31:34 > 0:31:37The day David was trapped, Paul was with his offender manager all day.
0:31:37 > 0:31:41- They never met.- But the day he was murdered, David took off his tag.
0:31:41 > 0:31:43- There could've been other times. - There's no proof.
0:31:43 > 0:31:46Are you going to charge him without it?
0:31:46 > 0:31:49I appreciate you're very invested in Joe's rehabilitation,
0:31:49 > 0:31:51but the truth is there are no certainties yet.
0:31:51 > 0:31:54- Ryan and Joe could both be in on this.- I'm overinvested here?
0:31:54 > 0:31:56You are prejudging a very sensitive, very insecure young man.
0:31:56 > 0:31:57HE CHUCKLES
0:31:59 > 0:32:01You know, I knew officers on the Craig Blake murder.
0:32:01 > 0:32:04When it was done, they both took early retirement.
0:32:04 > 0:32:06My age, fit, years of service ahead of them.
0:32:06 > 0:32:08But after that one, they'd had enough.
0:32:08 > 0:32:11What happened in that building in the woods...
0:32:11 > 0:32:16what Joe and Marcus did to that Blake boy - they'd seen enough.
0:32:16 > 0:32:19Have him sign the notes, get his permission to search his flat.
0:32:19 > 0:32:24If you've got any fear that he'll run, I'm the first to know.
0:32:24 > 0:32:25Agreed?
0:32:32 > 0:32:33INDISTINCT CHATTER
0:32:40 > 0:32:42What you looking at?
0:32:44 > 0:32:46Yeah, I killed Craig Blake.
0:32:48 > 0:32:53I'm Joe Sherringham, I killed him. Now, look at me, I killed Craig!
0:32:55 > 0:32:56Sick tosser!
0:33:39 > 0:33:41- It is Sellar's blood, yeah?- Some.
0:33:41 > 0:33:43But these shoes should've been drenched in it.
0:33:43 > 0:33:46DI Snow found this in a storm drain outside David Sellar's
0:33:46 > 0:33:48- block of flats.- Fantastic.
0:33:48 > 0:33:51- Yes, we'll get onto it. - The attack on David.
0:33:51 > 0:33:54It required strength, determination.
0:33:54 > 0:33:57Over 60 blows, that's around two minutes of repeated stabbing,
0:33:57 > 0:34:01- forceful enough to go through bone an inch thick.- So?
0:34:01 > 0:34:05Ryan's threats were anonymous. He wanted to avoid confrontation.
0:34:05 > 0:34:08The profile doesn't fit. And there's more good news.
0:34:08 > 0:34:12The wound pattern on David suggests a right-handed assailant.
0:34:12 > 0:34:14Let me guess.
0:34:14 > 0:34:15Ryan's left-handed.
0:34:15 > 0:34:17So, for now, Ryan's story holds.
0:34:17 > 0:34:20Went upstairs, saw the blood, panicked, cleaned up.
0:34:20 > 0:34:24- And we can't prove that Joe Sherringham met David Sellars that day either.- No.
0:34:24 > 0:34:27OK, we'll go back and make enquiries about any contacts
0:34:27 > 0:34:30David may have had outside or inside prison.
0:34:30 > 0:34:31Sorry.
0:34:33 > 0:34:37- Right, can you access the hard drive on this?- I can.
0:34:37 > 0:34:40Since you asked so nicely.
0:34:40 > 0:34:42I'm looking for trashed e-mail, social media,
0:34:42 > 0:34:45- deleted internet activity. - Who's the user?
0:34:45 > 0:34:48Um, Paul Raynott, aka, Joe Sherringham.
0:34:49 > 0:34:53Anything you find, run it past me first. Understood?
0:34:53 > 0:34:56I'll run it any way you like.
0:35:00 > 0:35:03It was a road rage incident.
0:35:03 > 0:35:07Business wasn't going well, was drinking.
0:35:07 > 0:35:09When the other guy came at me, yelling,
0:35:09 > 0:35:11I took the wrench and I just...
0:35:12 > 0:35:14I lost it.
0:35:14 > 0:35:16I've been out ten years now.
0:35:16 > 0:35:20There were anger management issues, obviously. I realised that later.
0:35:20 > 0:35:22And that's where you met David Sellars.
0:35:22 > 0:35:24Yeah, he was on a reoffending workshop that I helped on.
0:35:24 > 0:35:28I didn't know him well. I think Sasha was very concerned about him.
0:35:28 > 0:35:30He needed more and more of her support.
0:35:30 > 0:35:31We found graffiti outside his door.
0:35:31 > 0:35:36- Has he ever mentioned that he was being threatened, intimidated?- No.
0:35:36 > 0:35:39Did he talk about wanting to reduce his dose?
0:35:39 > 0:35:41We're lifers, Superintendent,
0:35:41 > 0:35:44we can be recalled at any time for almost anything.
0:35:45 > 0:35:47David had three weeks before he could move into his own house.
0:35:47 > 0:35:51I can understand why he wouldn't want anything to get in the way of that.
0:35:51 > 0:35:54- Hi.- Hi.- My wife, Mandy.
0:35:54 > 0:35:58- Oh, thanks. - She doesn't normally do the coffee.
0:35:58 > 0:35:59She's the real boss round here.
0:35:59 > 0:36:02Kept the place going while I was inside.
0:36:02 > 0:36:04Can you tell me where you were, evening before last?
0:36:05 > 0:36:07At home.
0:36:07 > 0:36:11We went up about 10.30, after the news. Like we always do.
0:36:12 > 0:36:14I'm also on licence.
0:36:15 > 0:36:17Bennet Walker.
0:36:17 > 0:36:20He attends the Origins Centre as well.
0:36:20 > 0:36:22Yeah, I helped him through his first few months on the outside.
0:36:22 > 0:36:25He needed a job, it was cleared by probation, so...
0:36:25 > 0:36:26I'd like to talk to him.
0:36:27 > 0:36:29Er, you should know that his colleagues
0:36:29 > 0:36:31are not aware of his past.
0:36:31 > 0:36:33Is Ben in any trouble?
0:36:35 > 0:36:37I just need a word.
0:36:39 > 0:36:41You were a bit of a bad boy, weren't you, Ben?
0:36:41 > 0:36:43Gangs, drugs, bit of dealing.
0:36:45 > 0:36:47Mm. Got life for murder.
0:36:49 > 0:36:52Couple of guys chatting up your girlfriend.
0:36:52 > 0:36:53That was then.
0:36:53 > 0:36:55So, tell me about you and David Sellars.
0:36:55 > 0:36:57Who?
0:36:57 > 0:36:58HE CHUCKLES
0:36:58 > 0:37:01You were in Redhill at the same time.
0:37:01 > 0:37:03Oh, right, Sellars.
0:37:04 > 0:37:06Bit of a schizo.
0:37:06 > 0:37:08- You attacked him in the canteen. - That was nothing.
0:37:08 > 0:37:10It was an argument over a portion he give me,
0:37:10 > 0:37:12that was my first month inside.
0:37:12 > 0:37:14Right. Before you turned that corner.
0:37:14 > 0:37:17Bought into the rehab workshops and classes.
0:37:17 > 0:37:19Ten years, got yourself out on licence.
0:37:21 > 0:37:25They don't let us out easy. Whatever the papers want you to think.
0:37:28 > 0:37:31Thing is, there's always that question, isn't there?
0:37:31 > 0:37:33Have you really changed?
0:37:35 > 0:37:36Oliver texted me.
0:37:38 > 0:37:41Why didn't you tell me you wanted to interview my clients?
0:37:41 > 0:37:44You have a problem with that, Dr Blackburn?
0:37:46 > 0:37:48- Have you seen David Sellars since you've been released?- No.
0:37:48 > 0:37:52- What's this about, Sash?- David Sellars was murdered two days ago.
0:37:54 > 0:37:57Where were you that day, between 7pm and 10pm?
0:37:57 > 0:37:59Oh, right. I get it.
0:37:59 > 0:38:02Pull another lifer in for it. Yeah?
0:38:02 > 0:38:05Easy collar, statement to the press, all done and dusted, huh?
0:38:05 > 0:38:07Just answer the question.
0:38:07 > 0:38:09It's important, Ben, whatever you know.
0:38:11 > 0:38:13I was at the gym and then, I went home.
0:38:13 > 0:38:16I'll be on camera all the way. Why don't you go and check?
0:38:23 > 0:38:25Why was David killed?
0:38:25 > 0:38:29- They don't know. - I'm so sorry. Are you OK?
0:38:30 > 0:38:34- I'm fine, Oliver, really. - You weren't responsible for David.
0:38:34 > 0:38:36You're looking after everyone except yourself.
0:38:36 > 0:38:39- There's people around you who can help.- Look, I've really got to go.
0:38:42 > 0:38:45We've got David's tox reports.
0:38:45 > 0:38:49They confirm that the anti-psychotic that he was prescribed was
0:38:49 > 0:38:52present, but at much lower levels than expected.
0:38:52 > 0:38:56It suggests that he was reducing his risperidone,
0:38:56 > 0:39:00using bovine diazepam to try and replace it.
0:39:00 > 0:39:02Do you think he was self-medicating?
0:39:02 > 0:39:04David spent all his adult life in jail.
0:39:04 > 0:39:06Told what to do, what to think.
0:39:08 > 0:39:11Self-medicating is a way of taking back control.
0:39:11 > 0:39:12He just wanted to feel normal.
0:39:14 > 0:39:15We knew he was struggling.
0:39:15 > 0:39:18He needed more and more of my time.
0:39:18 > 0:39:23I knew that there was a chance he was letting his meds slip.
0:39:26 > 0:39:30David trusted us, and we let him down.
0:39:34 > 0:39:36What makes you want to do this?
0:39:36 > 0:39:38Making these impossible calls?
0:39:38 > 0:39:43Almost all the lifers that I deal with have also been victims.
0:39:43 > 0:39:47Abuse, neglect, just...no chances in life.
0:39:47 > 0:39:50Most want to turn things around, they just don't know how.
0:39:50 > 0:39:52And I am in a job that can help them.
0:39:52 > 0:39:55How can you know if they've really changed,
0:39:55 > 0:39:56if they're safe to be released?
0:39:56 > 0:39:59We look for the science, patterns, tests, observation.
0:39:59 > 0:40:02We do our best with the evidence that we have, just like you.
0:40:02 > 0:40:05Do you lie awake at night, wondering if you made the right call?
0:40:05 > 0:40:06Do you?
0:40:09 > 0:40:13I believe everyone deserves a second chance.
0:40:22 > 0:40:23CLICKING
0:40:25 > 0:40:26LIGHTER CLICKS
0:40:33 > 0:40:36There's nothing worth nicking here, mate, I swear.
0:40:47 > 0:40:48Hello, Ted.
0:40:55 > 0:40:58I used to come round here when Dad was drinking.
0:40:58 > 0:41:00And you'd patch me up, let me stay over.
0:41:05 > 0:41:09- I want you to know I never wanted to hurt Craig, I swear.- But you did.
0:41:12 > 0:41:15- That's exactly what you did. - I didn't know who I was.
0:41:16 > 0:41:22I had no-one at home to show me, just you. And then, Marcus came.
0:41:22 > 0:41:27And he... He could see I was wide one, some messed-up kid.
0:41:27 > 0:41:31Right, so you're the victim? Huh? Not my little boy.
0:41:33 > 0:41:34Is that what you learnt in prison?
0:41:34 > 0:41:38I came to say I'm sorry. I'm so sorry.
0:41:38 > 0:41:41I know it doesn't mean anything, but... It's just too late,
0:41:41 > 0:41:44but I just wanted to say it. Do whatever you want.
0:41:45 > 0:41:50Come on, Ted. Come on, do it. Do it, I wouldn't blame you, do it!
0:41:52 > 0:41:53KNIFE CLATTERS
0:41:55 > 0:41:56TED SOBS
0:42:00 > 0:42:01I'm so sorry, Ted.
0:42:03 > 0:42:06My new name is Paul Raynott.
0:42:08 > 0:42:11I live at Flat 9, Endicott Place.
0:42:17 > 0:42:18So now you know.
0:42:26 > 0:42:28DOOR OPENS
0:42:28 > 0:42:29DOOR CLOSES
0:42:33 > 0:42:35DOOR CLANGS
0:42:35 > 0:42:37MAN: Breakfast call, Marcus.
0:42:40 > 0:42:41VOICES ECHO
0:42:50 > 0:42:52Traces of David Sellars' blood,
0:42:52 > 0:42:54the blade matches the wounds on his body.
0:42:54 > 0:42:57No prints or DNA from his attacker.
0:42:57 > 0:43:01Meanwhile, Joe Sherringham's laptop tells us
0:43:01 > 0:43:03he knows a thing or two about encryption.
0:43:03 > 0:43:05Masked IP addresses, proxy servers.
0:43:05 > 0:43:11So it took a while, but...ten days ago, he got this.
0:43:11 > 0:43:13An invoice for 50 diazepam.
0:43:13 > 0:43:15Exactly the same chemical profile
0:43:15 > 0:43:17as the ones David Sellars was taking.
0:43:17 > 0:43:21- Sellars tries to make it without his meds.- His mental state deteriorates.
0:43:21 > 0:43:23- Asks Sherringham to get the diazepam for him.- Ends up dead.
0:43:24 > 0:43:27I'm pulling Joe Sherringham back in. Going to keep this low-key,
0:43:27 > 0:43:28OK? Jack.
0:43:36 > 0:43:38This what you call low-key?
0:43:49 > 0:43:54- Jason.- Badly burnt male. Found outside the front of the property.
0:43:54 > 0:43:55Alive, just.
0:43:55 > 0:43:57Fire crews found a body in the kitchen,
0:43:57 > 0:44:00we're just waiting for the fire investigators.
0:44:00 > 0:44:01This isn't Joe Sherringham.
0:44:11 > 0:44:12No, but this is.
0:44:13 > 0:44:18Looks like multiple stab wounds to the face, neck, upper torso.
0:44:18 > 0:44:21- Same as David Sellars.- Possibly.
0:44:23 > 0:44:25- Weapon?- Screwdriver.
0:44:25 > 0:44:28Under the body, protected from the heat,
0:44:28 > 0:44:30about the only thing in here that was.
0:44:30 > 0:44:32This little baby is the seat of the fire.
0:44:32 > 0:44:35From the spread pattern and the burns on the fellow outside,
0:44:35 > 0:44:37I'd say an accelerant was used.
0:44:42 > 0:44:46Boss. Hospital's got an ID on the burns victim.
0:44:46 > 0:44:47It's Ted Blake.
0:44:47 > 0:44:50- Ted Blake?- Father of Craig Blake.
0:44:50 > 0:44:53The kid that Sherringham murdered in the woods.
0:44:54 > 0:44:57So, did Blake find out where his son's killer lived,
0:44:57 > 0:44:59set the fire to cover his tracks?
0:44:59 > 0:45:02Got caught as the accelerant ignited, staggered outside, collapsed.
0:45:02 > 0:45:05Maybe this felt like some kind of justice.
0:45:05 > 0:45:07Hard to live with, a loss like his.
0:45:08 > 0:45:11Sherringham's new ID was Class One protected.
0:45:12 > 0:45:15I want Blake's last movements, contacts, the lot.
0:45:15 > 0:45:18- I want to know why and how he found Joe Sherringham.- Sir.
0:45:18 > 0:45:21Tell the hospital to isolate the suspect. And, Snow...
0:45:21 > 0:45:23I want the press out of this for as long as I can.
0:45:23 > 0:45:26Why would Ted Blake also kill David Sellars?
0:45:26 > 0:45:29He wanted payback for his son, maybe got to Sellars first,
0:45:29 > 0:45:32forced him to spill Sherringham's address, then killed him.
0:45:32 > 0:45:33How did he find them?
0:45:33 > 0:45:35Well, we know that Sherringham met Sellars and gave
0:45:35 > 0:45:38him diazepam, maybe they were seen together
0:45:38 > 0:45:40and someone tipped Ted Blake off. We need Ted Blake to talk.
0:45:40 > 0:45:42- Is he conscious? - They won't let us near him.
0:45:44 > 0:45:46You're a doctor, right?
0:45:47 > 0:45:50- No. - This man is a murder suspect.
0:45:50 > 0:45:53Right now, my patient has burns to over 40% of his body.
0:45:53 > 0:45:55I won't risk exposure to further trauma.
0:45:55 > 0:45:57I'm sure you realise the implications of this case.
0:45:57 > 0:46:00My job is to keep him alive. I'm sorry.
0:46:00 > 0:46:02Er, Dr Chamberlain, Lyell Centre.
0:46:02 > 0:46:04He has an endotracheal tube.
0:46:04 > 0:46:07- Was there respiratory distress? - Oedema of the oropharynx.
0:46:07 > 0:46:09- Possible hypoxia.- Hypoxia.
0:46:09 > 0:46:11So, you've taken bloods.
0:46:12 > 0:46:1415ml. That's all we need.
0:46:14 > 0:46:16Give us something to work with till we can examine him.
0:46:19 > 0:46:22I'll tell Path to expect you. And his clothes are bagged.
0:46:22 > 0:46:24What's left of them.
0:46:25 > 0:46:27I've come to see my husband.
0:46:34 > 0:46:37Mrs Blake, I'm Superintendent Clive Mitchell.
0:46:37 > 0:46:40I know this is a really difficult time,
0:46:40 > 0:46:42but I do need to ask you a few questions.
0:46:42 > 0:46:44Can't you wait?
0:46:46 > 0:46:50He came to the office yesterday. He'd been drinking, I just wanted him out.
0:46:52 > 0:46:57- Did he ever talk about wanting to find Sherringham?- All the time.
0:46:57 > 0:46:59Dad used to bang on about revenge.
0:46:59 > 0:47:02What he'd do to Sherringham and Chadwell if he ever got the chance.
0:47:03 > 0:47:06We just... We just thought it was drunk talk.
0:47:06 > 0:47:11Any idea how he learned about Sherringham's new identity?
0:47:12 > 0:47:13I got back up on my feet.
0:47:15 > 0:47:18Built something positive from my son's death.
0:47:18 > 0:47:21Tried to forgive, never forget.
0:47:23 > 0:47:25Ted's just made that a sick joke.
0:47:26 > 0:47:27JOURNALISTS CLAMOUR
0:47:32 > 0:47:38It's all starting again. We're never going to be free of this now.
0:47:41 > 0:47:45The blood is all Joe Sherringham's. No surface traces of the assailant.
0:47:45 > 0:47:48Look for sweat or epidermal samples under the handle.
0:47:48 > 0:47:51Start where the shaft and the handle meet, work your way down.
0:47:51 > 0:47:54So, those are my plans for the evening. You?
0:47:54 > 0:47:55Oh, the usual.
0:47:55 > 0:47:58Cup of cocoa and straight to bed with a Jilly Cooper.
0:47:58 > 0:48:02Did you get the mass spectrometry on Blake's clothes?
0:48:02 > 0:48:04- No sign of accelerant.- Really?
0:48:04 > 0:48:08Well, maybe we're looking at fast evaporation, LPG, aerosols,
0:48:08 > 0:48:10lighter fluid.
0:48:10 > 0:48:14Maybe, but I can't find any blood on Ted's clothes either.
0:48:14 > 0:48:17With that kind of attack you'd think we'd get something.
0:48:17 > 0:48:21You set alight to a crime scene to obliterate traces, right?
0:48:21 > 0:48:24But Joe Sherringham was attacked and killed in the kitchen.
0:48:24 > 0:48:26So, why set the fire in the hall?
0:48:27 > 0:48:30Absence of soot in the mouth and pharynx,
0:48:30 > 0:48:32indicative of death before the fire.
0:48:32 > 0:48:35An examination of distal airways to confirm.
0:48:35 > 0:48:38Stab wounds to the chest, neck, upper arms.
0:48:38 > 0:48:40Angles of entry and spread suggest that they were made
0:48:40 > 0:48:43while the victim was moving in relation to his assailant.
0:48:43 > 0:48:46Multiple deep stab wounds to the face.
0:48:46 > 0:48:49These seem to have been made after he stopped moving.
0:48:50 > 0:48:54I don't think this was just a frenzied attack. This was mutilation.
0:48:56 > 0:49:01Someone wanted to dehumanise Joe. Erase his identity.
0:49:01 > 0:49:02Why?
0:49:03 > 0:49:07There's no ritual element, as far as we can see, there's nothing sexual.
0:49:07 > 0:49:10Because then, he'd be removed as an obstacle.
0:49:11 > 0:49:13He wouldn't be in their way any more.
0:49:18 > 0:49:22Two different types of murder weapon, a knife and a screwdriver.
0:49:22 > 0:49:25But there are similarities in wound pattern.
0:49:25 > 0:49:28In particular, a deliberate targeting to the face.
0:49:28 > 0:49:30In Sellars' case, less pronounced.
0:49:30 > 0:49:32The facial wounds are fewer and shallower.
0:49:32 > 0:49:35So, the killer's work on Sherringham could suggest a development.
0:49:35 > 0:49:39His anger's finding its expression. More focused.
0:49:39 > 0:49:41We know Ted Blake was in the vicinity,
0:49:41 > 0:49:43but so far we've got nothing to connect him to the actual murder,
0:49:43 > 0:49:47- or, indeed, to setting the fire. - No, you told us there were flash burns on Ted Blake.
0:49:47 > 0:49:50Yes, but there's no trace of accelerant on his clothes
0:49:50 > 0:49:53and we would've expected at least some of Sherringham's blood to show up.
0:49:54 > 0:49:57So, we've got nothing.
0:49:58 > 0:50:01What happens if there was a third person?
0:50:06 > 0:50:08Possible.
0:50:10 > 0:50:14- Pull up the file on Joe Sherringham and his victim, Craig Blake.- Gov.
0:50:14 > 0:50:17- Anything on the screwdriver? - Small traces of skin on the handle.
0:50:17 > 0:50:20Luckily, Sherringham's blood didn't get in there or swamp them.
0:50:20 > 0:50:23PHONE BUZZES I'm expecting the DNA back soon.
0:50:23 > 0:50:25Blake's conscious, he's trying to talk.
0:50:25 > 0:50:26I'll come with you.
0:50:27 > 0:50:29MONITOR BEEPING
0:50:31 > 0:50:32SUSTAINED BEEP
0:50:35 > 0:50:38- Sats are dropping. - Bringing the defib just now.
0:50:38 > 0:50:40Got a cart.
0:50:40 > 0:50:42- Ted!- Sir!
0:50:42 > 0:50:46You need to move out of the room. Sir, can you move back?
0:50:47 > 0:50:49Still falling.
0:50:52 > 0:50:54TV: 'It appears Edward Blake was caught in a fire that destroyed
0:50:54 > 0:50:56'the flat where Joe Sherringham was living.
0:50:56 > 0:51:00'15 years ago, Sherringham and an older teenager, Marcus Chadwell,
0:51:00 > 0:51:04'received life sentences for the murder of Blake's son, Craig.
0:51:04 > 0:51:08'Sherringham had recently been released on licence with a new identity, while
0:51:08 > 0:51:12'Marcus Chadwell remains at a high security unit at Oakford Prison.'
0:51:12 > 0:51:14- Ted Blake's dead.- Really?
0:51:17 > 0:51:19This came from Mitchell.
0:51:19 > 0:51:21The pathology from the Craig Blake inquest.
0:51:22 > 0:51:24Thanks, Clarissa.
0:51:24 > 0:51:26I'm here all night if you need me.
0:52:55 > 0:52:59- When do we get Blake's body?- Be with you later today. What's the news?
0:53:02 > 0:53:06Targeting the face is an uncommon style of violence.
0:53:07 > 0:53:09But look at this. 15 years ago.
0:53:11 > 0:53:13Among Craig Blake's many injuries,
0:53:13 > 0:53:16there were a dozen puncture wounds to his face.
0:53:16 > 0:53:19Joe Sherringham testified that they were inflicted by Marcus Chadwell.
0:53:19 > 0:53:23- Marcus never admitted this. - Well, he's never admitted anything.
0:53:25 > 0:53:30- Maybe Marcus doesn't want his second chance.- It's rare, but it happens.
0:53:30 > 0:53:31He's never shown remorse for what he did,
0:53:31 > 0:53:35he's refused all rehabilitation work.
0:53:35 > 0:53:38On both Sellars and Sherringham, we suspect that these wounds were
0:53:38 > 0:53:41inflicted when the victim was motionless.
0:53:41 > 0:53:44At the Blake trial, the prosecution suggested Marcus did something
0:53:44 > 0:53:46very similar to Craig Blake.
0:53:51 > 0:53:56All right, is it possible that Marcus Chadwell coerced someone else
0:53:56 > 0:54:00into killing both Joe and David? This third person?
0:54:00 > 0:54:02Surely we have to consider the possibility.
0:54:02 > 0:54:04When one of the victims is Joe Sherringham.
0:54:04 > 0:54:07Marcus's contact with the outside world is closely monitored.
0:54:07 > 0:54:10Yeah, but he's associated with other prisoners for years,
0:54:10 > 0:54:13some of whom have been released. And he's highly manipulative.
0:54:13 > 0:54:16Psychopathic personality types always are.
0:54:16 > 0:54:19He manipulated Joe into killing Craig Blake.
0:54:19 > 0:54:21But?
0:54:22 > 0:54:23Two things.
0:54:24 > 0:54:29If Marcus influenced someone inside to go out and kill,
0:54:29 > 0:54:30then we missed it.
0:54:30 > 0:54:35Given the tests, the therapy, the scrutiny that lifers undergo,
0:54:35 > 0:54:36it's unlikely.
0:54:36 > 0:54:37But it could happen.
0:54:37 > 0:54:41It would take a uniquely deceptive personality to hide their true
0:54:41 > 0:54:43psychology over time.
0:54:43 > 0:54:46Marcus is a uniquely deceptive personality,
0:54:46 > 0:54:47so what's the second thing?
0:54:47 > 0:54:52You've seen the TV. Marcus Chadwell is famous again.
0:54:52 > 0:54:57You give him the attention of a police investigation on top?
0:54:57 > 0:55:00He WILL play games. He's been dreaming of this.
0:55:25 > 0:55:28You understand why we're here. Ted Blake and Joe Sherringham.
0:55:28 > 0:55:30Yes, how very unfortunate for them.
0:55:32 > 0:55:35We've not been introduced.
0:55:36 > 0:55:40- I'm a forensic pathologist.- So you're the one digging up the past.
0:55:48 > 0:55:50Can you tell us anything about these wounds?
0:55:53 > 0:55:54Hmm.
0:55:55 > 0:55:57I don't have a lot to say about this.
0:55:58 > 0:56:00Do you?
0:56:00 > 0:56:02Judging by the concentration and patterning,
0:56:02 > 0:56:04he wasn't conscious when they were inflicted.
0:56:04 > 0:56:06- And that's your conclusion? - Is it correct?
0:56:06 > 0:56:08Well, you seem quite confident.
0:56:10 > 0:56:12What do you see there, Marcus?
0:56:12 > 0:56:16I see Craig Blake. Recognise the photograph from the trial.
0:56:21 > 0:56:25Have you discussed Craig's wounds with anyone else?
0:56:25 > 0:56:29- Who do you have in mind?- Somebody who you felt comfortable talking to.
0:56:29 > 0:56:32You looked after Joe, didn't you, Doctor?
0:56:32 > 0:56:36- Strange how inseparable we became. - You were very different.
0:56:36 > 0:56:40- How was Joe under your care? - Joe was a very brave young man.
0:56:40 > 0:56:43I'm not very interested in Joe and I'm not, it turns out,
0:56:43 > 0:56:45very interested in you.
0:56:45 > 0:56:49Evidently, you're here because you need information from me, yes?
0:56:49 > 0:56:51If that is to happen,
0:56:51 > 0:56:57then, we would need to discuss someone that I am interested in.
0:56:57 > 0:56:59Who are you interested in, Marcus?
0:57:03 > 0:57:06The mother, of course. Sylvie.
0:57:06 > 0:57:08Sylvie Blake.
0:57:10 > 0:57:14Things happened that day I've not spoken about,
0:57:14 > 0:57:21things that impact on Joe's death very directly.
0:57:21 > 0:57:24Are you claiming influence over these murders?
0:57:24 > 0:57:28- Influence - that's a very good word. - He's being evasive.
0:57:28 > 0:57:31I can tell you who killed Joe.
0:57:35 > 0:57:37We need to take Sylvie to the building in the woods.
0:57:37 > 0:57:39INAUDIBLE CONVERSATION
0:58:03 > 0:58:06Puncture wound, made by a small, blunt object.
0:58:06 > 0:58:09WE haven't been able to match it with anything in the house
0:58:09 > 0:58:10and it wasn't made by the murder weapon.
0:58:10 > 0:58:13- You shouldn't have come here. - I'm not mad at you, mind.
0:58:13 > 0:58:15I'm going to bring him out now.
0:58:15 > 0:58:17He's not going to get anywhere hear you.
0:58:19 > 0:58:22- Where were you the day that Craig died?- Why are you asking me this?
0:58:22 > 0:58:25- I want you to check for a match. - Right, Ted Blake, I'm on it.
0:58:25 > 0:58:27Not Ted.
0:58:27 > 0:58:29It can go wrong for people like us.
0:58:29 > 0:58:31Don't put your hands on me!
0:58:33 > 0:58:36SHE SOBS
0:58:40 > 0:58:47# Testator silens
0:58:47 > 0:58:55# Costestes e spiritu
0:58:55 > 0:59:04# Silentium. #