Episode 3

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0:00:02 > 0:00:08This programme contains some scenes which some viewers may find upsetting

0:00:08 > 0:00:12We're only holding two cards. One, we have him two, we have her and she's alive,

0:00:12 > 0:00:13the rest is a disaster.

0:00:13 > 0:00:15Do you have a friend called Daisy?

0:00:15 > 0:00:16Why?

0:00:16 > 0:00:18There's something about her online,

0:00:18 > 0:00:20how she met Daddy one time.

0:00:20 > 0:00:22Am I being interviewed under caution?

0:00:22 > 0:00:23Yes, you are.

0:00:23 > 0:00:25I knew that Rose was in that boot

0:00:25 > 0:00:26and I needed to get to her.

0:00:26 > 0:00:28And what about Mr Spector's life?

0:00:28 > 0:00:31Did you not have a duty to protect that?

0:00:31 > 0:00:33MACHINE BLEEPS HE CHOKES

0:00:33 > 0:00:35I need some help in here!

0:00:35 > 0:00:36Rose, what are you doing?

0:00:36 > 0:00:38- I want to go home. - You can't.

0:00:38 > 0:00:39I want to go home!

0:00:39 > 0:00:43A man has come forward having seen Spector's photograph on the news.

0:00:43 > 0:00:45He says Spector looks like a man who rents

0:00:45 > 0:00:47a lock-up from him in East Belfast,

0:00:47 > 0:00:49under the name Baldwin.

0:00:49 > 0:00:52We've just landed a not uninteresting little case.

0:00:52 > 0:00:53The Belfast Strangler.

0:00:53 > 0:00:54You stay away from him!

0:00:54 > 0:00:57I haven't been near him! You need to get a grip!

0:00:57 > 0:00:59You're obsessed, it's pathetic!

0:00:59 > 0:01:00SHE SCREAMS

0:01:00 > 0:01:01Who's pathetic now?!

0:01:01 > 0:01:02Ma'am.

0:01:04 > 0:01:05Hello, Daddy.

0:01:05 > 0:01:07It's me, Olivia.

0:01:07 > 0:01:11Why are you so big? And you, you look different, older.

0:01:11 > 0:01:13What's happening to me?

0:01:15 > 0:01:16More victims?

0:02:50 > 0:02:54HEAVY BREATHING

0:03:30 > 0:03:31Are you in pain?

0:03:49 > 0:03:50Here.

0:03:57 > 0:04:00HE EXHALES DEEPLY

0:04:26 > 0:04:28We've seen fragments before,

0:04:28 > 0:04:31bits of pages that didn't burn in the car.

0:04:31 > 0:04:34Enough to confirm that he kept journals, but nothing like this.

0:04:36 > 0:04:38Nothing so extensive, nothing so detailed.

0:04:39 > 0:04:43I'd put it to Spector that between the strangulation

0:04:43 > 0:04:47of Rose and the murder of Fiona Gallagher,

0:04:47 > 0:04:49that there must have been other attacks.

0:04:49 > 0:04:51He said that there were no other attacks,

0:04:51 > 0:04:54that Fiona Gallagher was his first murder.

0:04:55 > 0:04:59During that gap in time, he suggested that he

0:04:59 > 0:05:01always had a "project" to work on.

0:05:02 > 0:05:04Are these those "projects"?

0:05:05 > 0:05:06A.S.

0:05:10 > 0:05:12Might live in the Holylands area,

0:05:12 > 0:05:14who might be a journalist...

0:05:15 > 0:05:19..who seems to wake up late every day and skip breakfast.

0:05:20 > 0:05:24Who wears a cream robe after her bath and sometimes doesn't

0:05:24 > 0:05:27completely close her bedroom curtains.

0:05:29 > 0:05:33Or, R.W...

0:05:33 > 0:05:35who cycles to the university most days off,

0:05:35 > 0:05:38somewhere in the Lisburn Road.

0:05:38 > 0:05:42Always brings her lunch with her and eats in the botanic gardens.

0:05:42 > 0:05:46Who has clear, pale skin, wears close-fitting clothes

0:05:46 > 0:05:49and walks with a short stride that Spector likes.

0:05:52 > 0:05:56Where on the continuum of his violence do these journals fit?

0:05:58 > 0:06:03Are they just fantasies that sustain him, feed his appetites?

0:06:03 > 0:06:05Or are they a record...

0:06:07 > 0:06:09..of nine more murders?

0:06:11 > 0:06:12What time of day is it?

0:06:12 > 0:06:14Morning, afternoon, night?

0:06:16 > 0:06:18Morning.

0:06:18 > 0:06:19Where are we?

0:06:21 > 0:06:23Belfast General Hospital.

0:06:24 > 0:06:27Can you remember the name of your nurse?

0:06:31 > 0:06:32Kiera.

0:06:34 > 0:06:37Are you married, or do you have a partner?

0:06:37 > 0:06:38I'm married.

0:06:39 > 0:06:42Can you remember any other family members?

0:06:45 > 0:06:51Sally Ann has a father, John, and a mother, Carol.

0:06:51 > 0:06:53We call her Cici.

0:06:53 > 0:06:55And what about you?

0:06:58 > 0:07:00Me?

0:07:00 > 0:07:01Do you have any family?

0:07:03 > 0:07:04No.

0:07:04 > 0:07:05Why is that?

0:07:07 > 0:07:08My mother died.

0:07:08 > 0:07:11And what about your father?

0:07:14 > 0:07:18When I was growing up, he was known as Peter Baldwin.

0:07:18 > 0:07:23I thought that man was my father, till he left us.

0:07:25 > 0:07:30My mother told me that he wasn't my real father, he was...

0:07:30 > 0:07:32just a man.

0:07:34 > 0:07:36When did you become Paul Spector?

0:07:39 > 0:07:41Erm...

0:07:41 > 0:07:43just before I met Sally Ann.

0:07:44 > 0:07:46And why did you change?

0:07:49 > 0:07:51Wanted a...

0:07:51 > 0:07:52clean start.

0:07:52 > 0:07:55- New life.- Why's that?

0:07:56 > 0:07:58Not sure.

0:08:00 > 0:08:02Has that new life worked for you?

0:08:13 > 0:08:16The sheer volume of garments suggests there were very many

0:08:16 > 0:08:19fetish burglaries at that time.

0:08:19 > 0:08:20His journals talk of...

0:08:22 > 0:08:24..climbing scaffolding,

0:08:24 > 0:08:27finding windows open, doors unlocked, alarms not set.

0:08:29 > 0:08:32I took this photograph to be of a woman.

0:08:33 > 0:08:35On closer inspection...

0:08:35 > 0:08:37it's clear it's a mannequin.

0:08:39 > 0:08:41And these pictures of him.

0:08:44 > 0:08:48The bondage, the auto asphyxiation...

0:08:49 > 0:08:53..introduce a new element to our understanding

0:08:53 > 0:08:55of his sexual behaviour.

0:08:56 > 0:08:59Has any information returned to you over

0:08:59 > 0:09:01the last 12 hours voluntarily?

0:09:03 > 0:09:05I don't think so.

0:09:07 > 0:09:09Hold this in your hand.

0:09:10 > 0:09:12Keep it safe.

0:09:12 > 0:09:15Can you give it back to me in 15 minutes' time?

0:09:15 > 0:09:17Yes.

0:09:17 > 0:09:19Who's the British Prime Minister?

0:09:21 > 0:09:22Tony Blair.

0:09:25 > 0:09:26Have you heard of Facebook?

0:09:28 > 0:09:30- Yes.- What is it?

0:09:31 > 0:09:33It's...

0:09:33 > 0:09:35a social networking site.

0:09:36 > 0:09:38And what about Twitter?

0:09:42 > 0:09:44I don't know what that is.

0:09:44 > 0:09:46So you don't know what a tweet is, or tweeting?

0:09:50 > 0:09:51The sound a bird makes.

0:09:54 > 0:09:55What's a hashtag?

0:09:59 > 0:10:00No idea.

0:10:02 > 0:10:06Presumably, I'm supposed to know what these things are?

0:10:08 > 0:10:09Maybe.

0:10:12 > 0:10:16The main thing is that we identify and find these women.

0:10:17 > 0:10:19Use the initials,

0:10:19 > 0:10:23look at solved or unsolved sexually motivated murders,

0:10:23 > 0:10:26or attempted murders, particularly strangulations occurring

0:10:26 > 0:10:30in homes and apartments, check Missing Persons

0:10:30 > 0:10:33for suspected foul play.

0:10:35 > 0:10:38We need to know if these women are alive or dead.

0:10:41 > 0:10:44I think that's all, unless there's anything else?

0:10:44 > 0:10:46We've confirmed the list of children's homes

0:10:46 > 0:10:50Spector was in, following the death of his mother.

0:10:50 > 0:10:52We have lists of all his fellow pupils,

0:10:52 > 0:10:54including those at Gortnacull.

0:10:54 > 0:10:57Any news on the Benedetto girl?

0:10:57 > 0:11:00Uniforms called at her house this morning, Ma'am.

0:11:00 > 0:11:01She didn't come home last night,

0:11:01 > 0:11:03her mother has no idea where she is.

0:11:03 > 0:11:06A warrant's been issued for her arrest.

0:11:08 > 0:11:09Thank you all.

0:11:12 > 0:11:14What's the last full day you remember?

0:11:17 > 0:11:19It was with Olivia.

0:11:20 > 0:11:21Go on.

0:11:24 > 0:11:26Erm...

0:11:26 > 0:11:29I took her to a playgroup, a musical playgroup.

0:11:31 > 0:11:32She loves dancing.

0:11:34 > 0:11:36And, erm...

0:11:36 > 0:11:39they all sing songs, The Wheels On The Bus.

0:11:41 > 0:11:44She touches all the right places when she does

0:11:44 > 0:11:46Head, Shoulders, Knees And Toes.

0:11:49 > 0:11:52Then we went for lunch in the park.

0:11:55 > 0:11:58She was pedalling on her tricycle.

0:12:01 > 0:12:06There's a pair of swans on the water there, nine or ten babies.

0:12:06 > 0:12:08Ugly ducklings.

0:12:10 > 0:12:11She was talking loads.

0:12:12 > 0:12:15She's always getting me to play make believe with her.

0:12:17 > 0:12:20It sounds to me like Olivia is about two years old.

0:12:20 > 0:12:22Yes.

0:12:22 > 0:12:23But she isn't, is she?

0:13:59 > 0:14:03Can you describe what the memory loss feels like to you?

0:14:09 > 0:14:10Well...

0:14:12 > 0:14:14..it feels like it's night-time and...

0:14:17 > 0:14:20..there's a thunderstorm and I'm standing on a hillside...

0:14:22 > 0:14:26..and I've been asked to draw a map of the valley below.

0:14:29 > 0:14:31There's lightning flashes.

0:14:32 > 0:14:35They light up the land, but only for a few seconds,

0:14:35 > 0:14:37not long enough to draw the map.

0:14:46 > 0:14:48Can you recall who you are?

0:14:48 > 0:14:52In the sense of what you were like and what you're like now?

0:14:52 > 0:14:54Your trait characteristics?

0:14:57 > 0:14:59Erm...

0:15:00 > 0:15:02I'm told I have a son.

0:15:05 > 0:15:08I've no reason to think that people are lying to me, but...

0:15:10 > 0:15:11..I don't feel it.

0:15:14 > 0:15:16I'm told I'm in trouble with the police.

0:15:18 > 0:15:19I don't know what I've done.

0:15:23 > 0:15:29I think that I might be different but I don't know why.

0:15:31 > 0:15:34I feel like I'm an all-right person?

0:16:01 > 0:16:03It will all come back to me, won't it?

0:16:05 > 0:16:08Your anterograde memory is working well.

0:16:10 > 0:16:14Anything else you've forgotten, you can relearn.

0:16:17 > 0:16:19But the ownership has gone.

0:16:52 > 0:16:55MOBILE RINGS

0:17:01 > 0:17:03KEYPAD TONE Gibson?

0:17:03 > 0:17:07'Patrick Spencer, ICU Consultant, Belfast General Hospital.'

0:17:07 > 0:17:11Thank you for calling me back, Doctor. I understand he's conscious?

0:17:11 > 0:17:13'He is. His physiology is normalising.

0:17:13 > 0:17:16'He's cardiovascularly stable...'

0:17:16 > 0:17:18and has made good progress

0:17:18 > 0:17:20given the massive insult and blood loss from the bullet wounds...

0:17:21 > 0:17:23'But?'

0:17:23 > 0:17:25But there is an issue.

0:17:25 > 0:17:27'Although his short-term memory

0:17:27 > 0:17:29'seems to be functioning adequately...

0:17:30 > 0:17:32'..it seems Mr Spector has suffered

0:17:32 > 0:17:35'quite extensive long-term memory loss.'

0:17:38 > 0:17:40BED WHIRS, HE WINCES

0:17:42 > 0:17:44BED CLANKS

0:17:44 > 0:17:46OK.

0:17:49 > 0:17:52I'm just going to move your legs to the edge of the bed, here.

0:17:52 > 0:17:53OK...

0:17:53 > 0:17:55I'm now going to take your arm now.

0:17:58 > 0:17:59OK, here we go...

0:17:59 > 0:18:01HE GROANS

0:18:03 > 0:18:05HE GRUNTS

0:18:05 > 0:18:06Keep going.

0:18:06 > 0:18:08Over here...

0:18:10 > 0:18:11Here.

0:18:11 > 0:18:14HE GROANS

0:18:17 > 0:18:18OK, that's good. Well done.

0:18:21 > 0:18:24GIBSON: 'Apparently, he's docile,

0:18:24 > 0:18:27'well oriented in time and space and has...'

0:18:27 > 0:18:30established good relations with his doctors and nurses.

0:18:30 > 0:18:32(For pity's sake!)

0:18:33 > 0:18:35It seems he can acquire new information

0:18:35 > 0:18:37and keep track of his medical procedures,

0:18:37 > 0:18:40but that he has almost no recollection

0:18:40 > 0:18:44of the events that have taken place over the last six years or so.

0:18:44 > 0:18:46Are we supposed to be taking this seriously?

0:18:46 > 0:18:49I think we have to.

0:18:50 > 0:18:51Are they linking this...

0:18:53 > 0:18:55..this impairment directly to the shooting?

0:18:55 > 0:18:59The nature of the amnesia has not been established yet.

0:19:00 > 0:19:03It... It might be organic, an injury to the brain

0:19:03 > 0:19:07because of blood loss or a resultant lack of oxygen,

0:19:07 > 0:19:09or it could be psychogenic,

0:19:09 > 0:19:12a result, perhaps, of trauma.

0:19:13 > 0:19:17But until they do an MRI scan, they can't really say.

0:19:18 > 0:19:20So, perform the MRI scan.

0:19:20 > 0:19:24Spector has retained metal fragments from the bullet in his body.

0:19:25 > 0:19:28If they contain iron, the fragments can be heated up

0:19:28 > 0:19:31and the magnet can drag them through the body

0:19:31 > 0:19:33and cause more organ damage.

0:19:33 > 0:19:37- Are they conducting psychological tests yet?- Yes, they are.

0:19:37 > 0:19:41The Consultant Neuropsychologist is an Alison Walden.

0:19:41 > 0:19:44But Jim's right. He must be feigning, surely?

0:19:44 > 0:19:47- Or at the very least, exaggerating his symptoms?- To what end?

0:19:47 > 0:19:51The law does not concern itself with the present state of mind

0:19:51 > 0:19:52of the criminal defendant,

0:19:52 > 0:19:56only with the state of mind at the time the crime was committed.

0:19:56 > 0:19:59And Spector's was clearly conveyed in his confession.

0:19:59 > 0:20:01He clearly understood the difference

0:20:01 > 0:20:04between right and wrong at the time of the crimes,

0:20:04 > 0:20:07and, therefore, he will be held accountable.

0:20:07 > 0:20:10But it is founded on memory-based evidence.

0:20:11 > 0:20:13And he's saying that he can't remember any of the crimes.

0:20:13 > 0:20:17It poses all sorts of problems for the courts.

0:20:17 > 0:20:20It's almost like he's claiming that he's innocent.

0:20:20 > 0:20:22It seems there's more than usual pressure

0:20:22 > 0:20:25to build the evidential case against him.

0:20:27 > 0:20:30That's precisely what we're doing, sir.

0:20:31 > 0:20:34What will happen to him if the defence does ask

0:20:34 > 0:20:35for a mental health assessment?

0:20:35 > 0:20:39His potential dangerousness suggests a forensic unit

0:20:39 > 0:20:42rather than a hospital ward.

0:20:42 > 0:20:43And where would that be?

0:20:43 > 0:20:46The Foyle Clinic in East Belfast.

0:20:46 > 0:20:48Who will assess him?

0:20:48 > 0:20:49August Larson.

0:20:49 > 0:20:52He's the Consultant Forensic Psychiatrist.

0:20:52 > 0:20:57Very experienced, very used to giving expert testimony in court.

0:20:58 > 0:21:01The sooner we get him out of the hands of the medics,

0:21:01 > 0:21:03and back into the justice system, the better.

0:21:16 > 0:21:19DOOR OPENS

0:21:19 > 0:21:21< Thanks, Alison.

0:21:28 > 0:21:29HE TAPS ON GLASS

0:21:34 > 0:21:37Kiera Sheridan. Mr Spector's dedicated nurse.

0:21:37 > 0:21:39She provides him with one-to-one care.

0:21:39 > 0:21:42She will limit your visit if patient status warrants it.

0:21:42 > 0:21:44- Thank you. - She'll show you in.

0:21:51 > 0:21:54- LOWDEN:- 'What about the wife?'

0:21:55 > 0:21:56I'm worried about her.

0:21:57 > 0:22:00It's obviously been a devastating blow to her -

0:22:00 > 0:22:05as it would be to anyone who seems to have had no real suspicions.

0:22:05 > 0:22:09But there's no possibility of her repeating the offence.

0:22:10 > 0:22:12She's admitted her guilt,

0:22:12 > 0:22:13she's corrected the facts.

0:22:13 > 0:22:16She might even end up being a witness for the prosecution.

0:22:18 > 0:22:20I think we should drop the charges.

0:22:20 > 0:22:22If she'd told the truth, in the first place,

0:22:22 > 0:22:24about Spector's whereabouts,

0:22:24 > 0:22:28then we could have investigated him more closely and, perhaps,

0:22:28 > 0:22:31Rose Stagg would not have been put through the ordeal that she has.

0:22:33 > 0:22:37I just feel that pursuing her through the courts

0:22:37 > 0:22:39will likely have a very bad effect

0:22:39 > 0:22:41on her mental and physical health.

0:22:42 > 0:22:47Is prosecution really in the public interest?

0:22:47 > 0:22:49As Director of Public Prosecutions,

0:22:49 > 0:22:51I have to say, I think it is.

0:22:51 > 0:22:53How things will unfold with Spector is unclear.

0:22:53 > 0:22:56Prosecuting his wife sends a clear signal -

0:22:56 > 0:23:01we mean business and no-one involved will be getting off lightly.

0:23:04 > 0:23:08Sally Ann Spector miscarried in police custody.

0:23:09 > 0:23:13That's a devastating thing to happen to any woman,

0:23:13 > 0:23:14but particularly her.

0:23:14 > 0:23:17Her identity is wrapped up in her children

0:23:17 > 0:23:19and those that she cares for.

0:23:19 > 0:23:23She's perceived as an angel by the parents of the babies

0:23:23 > 0:23:24she looks after in the NICU.

0:23:25 > 0:23:28Now, it appears as if she's lost everything,

0:23:28 > 0:23:29her marriage,

0:23:29 > 0:23:30her work,

0:23:30 > 0:23:32her unborn child.

0:23:34 > 0:23:37She's paid a very high price for her naivety.

0:23:37 > 0:23:39I can't believe that, of all people,

0:23:39 > 0:23:43you are suggesting that we treat Sally Ann paternalistically.

0:23:44 > 0:23:47I say we move ahead with the charges

0:23:47 > 0:23:50and we can use them as leverage against Spector.

0:23:50 > 0:23:53I do think we need to bear in mind the seriousness of the offence.

0:23:57 > 0:24:01We accepted instructions on your behalf from your wife

0:24:01 > 0:24:02when you were unconscious.

0:24:02 > 0:24:06Today is an opportunity for you to say if you are happy for us

0:24:06 > 0:24:08to be representing you.

0:24:09 > 0:24:13I believe that the nature of your injuries has been explained to you?

0:24:14 > 0:24:15Yes.

0:24:15 > 0:24:19And you understand that you were in police custody when you were shot?

0:24:19 > 0:24:21Yes, but I still don't know why.

0:24:21 > 0:24:23No-one will tell me.

0:24:25 > 0:24:28An individual called James Tyler was responsible.

0:24:36 > 0:24:38I don't know who that is.

0:24:39 > 0:24:43- Why did he shoot me?- I need to get more information from the police

0:24:43 > 0:24:47before I can explain that. The more pressing issue, Mr Spector,

0:24:47 > 0:24:49is that the police have charged you

0:24:49 > 0:24:51with a number of very serious crimes.

0:24:51 > 0:24:55I mean, the most serious crimes on the Statute Book.

0:24:56 > 0:24:58What crimes?

0:24:58 > 0:24:59A series of murders.

0:25:05 > 0:25:06What sort of murders?

0:25:06 > 0:25:11With your permission, let me take you through the police charge sheet.

0:25:13 > 0:25:17All the, er...alleged crimes took place in Belfast.

0:25:19 > 0:25:22The police claim that on the 10th day of December, 2011,

0:25:22 > 0:25:25you murdered University lecturer Fiona Gallagher

0:25:25 > 0:25:27in her home before fleeing the scene.

0:25:28 > 0:25:30Death by strangulation.

0:25:32 > 0:25:36That on the 15th of March, 2012,

0:25:36 > 0:25:40you murdered architect Alice Monroe in her home,

0:25:40 > 0:25:42strangling her with a ligature.

0:25:43 > 0:25:46They allege that you then washed and dried her body,

0:25:46 > 0:25:50before putting her back to bed and posing her body.

0:25:50 > 0:25:54That on the 16th of April, 2012,

0:25:54 > 0:25:58you murdered solicitor Sarah Kay in her home,

0:25:58 > 0:26:00strangling her with a ligature.

0:26:02 > 0:26:07They allege that you washed and dried Sarah's body -

0:26:07 > 0:26:09washed and dried her bedclothes...

0:26:10 > 0:26:13..painted her finger nails red,

0:26:13 > 0:26:16before posing her in her bed and taking photographs.

0:26:18 > 0:26:21Sarah Kay was pregnant at the time of her death.

0:26:24 > 0:26:29That four days later, on the 20th of April, 2012...

0:26:31 > 0:26:32..you attacked and strangled

0:26:32 > 0:26:35accountant Annie Brawley in her home.

0:26:37 > 0:26:40They claim that you...

0:26:40 > 0:26:43also murdered her brother Joseph Brawley

0:26:43 > 0:26:45when he tried to defend his sister -

0:26:45 > 0:26:49stabbing him three times with some decorating shears.

0:26:49 > 0:26:51You, then, fled the scene.

0:26:51 > 0:26:54Annie Brawley survived the attack.

0:26:58 > 0:27:02I don't recognise any of these people.

0:27:02 > 0:27:03I've never seen these people before.

0:27:04 > 0:27:06There's more.

0:27:07 > 0:27:10They allege that on May the 3rd,

0:27:10 > 0:27:14you abducted Rose Stagg from her home,

0:27:14 > 0:27:17imprisoned her unlawfully

0:27:17 > 0:27:19and detained her against her will.

0:27:25 > 0:27:27I know her.

0:27:29 > 0:27:31Rose what, who did you say?

0:27:31 > 0:27:33Stagg.

0:27:33 > 0:27:37Perhaps you know Mrs Stagg better as Rose McGill?

0:27:39 > 0:27:40Yes.

0:27:43 > 0:27:47But I haven't seen her in the last four years or so.

0:27:48 > 0:27:50When did you last see her, do you think?

0:27:53 > 0:27:55Early summer.

0:27:55 > 0:27:562002.

0:27:58 > 0:28:012002 is ten years ago, not four.

0:28:01 > 0:28:04Have you been listening to the charges, Mr Spector?

0:28:04 > 0:28:06It's May 2012.

0:28:10 > 0:28:11I'm sorry.

0:28:12 > 0:28:13I'm sorry.

0:28:16 > 0:28:19What happened to Rose?

0:28:20 > 0:28:21She's alive.

0:28:23 > 0:28:25The police say you led them to her.

0:28:25 > 0:28:28She was found in the boot of her own car.

0:28:28 > 0:28:31The police suggest you left her trapped.

0:28:31 > 0:28:33Left her to die.

0:28:38 > 0:28:40Why would I do that to Rose?

0:28:54 > 0:28:56WATER SPLASHES

0:29:01 > 0:29:02FAUCET SQUEAKS

0:29:05 > 0:29:08'The police say they have a confession.'

0:29:08 > 0:29:10That you made a number of admissions.

0:29:12 > 0:29:13I've, um...

0:29:13 > 0:29:15no memory of that.

0:29:15 > 0:29:17We think it makes sense for your first appearance in court

0:29:17 > 0:29:18to be as soon as possible

0:29:18 > 0:29:21because it will initiate the evidential disclosure process.

0:29:21 > 0:29:23Will you be strong enough?

0:29:25 > 0:29:26Once we are in receipt of those documents,

0:29:26 > 0:29:29we will look at the detail of that confession

0:29:29 > 0:29:31and take you through every bit of evidence against you,

0:29:31 > 0:29:35every witness statement, page by page, line by line.

0:29:36 > 0:29:37Is that all clear?

0:29:40 > 0:29:41Yes.

0:29:43 > 0:29:44Any questions?

0:29:50 > 0:29:52I just need some time for it all to sink in.

0:29:52 > 0:29:53Of course.

0:29:57 > 0:29:59Do you know who that is?

0:30:03 > 0:30:05No.

0:30:06 > 0:30:08Should I?

0:30:08 > 0:30:11If any memories relevant to the case return to you,

0:30:11 > 0:30:13please contact Louise here.

0:30:15 > 0:30:17We're here to help you, Mr Spector.

0:30:19 > 0:30:21We will guide you through this.

0:30:21 > 0:30:22Thank you.

0:30:47 > 0:30:49TRAFFIC BUSTLE

0:31:10 > 0:31:12KNOCK AT DOOR

0:31:12 > 0:31:15Sorry, ma'am. Rose Stagg is here to see you.

0:31:18 > 0:31:21Set up an interview room, Dani. I'd like you to sit in.

0:31:21 > 0:31:23Of course.

0:31:30 > 0:31:32I woke to find him in bed with me.

0:31:32 > 0:31:34SHE GASPS AND SCUFFLES

0:31:34 > 0:31:37MUFFLED CRIES

0:31:37 > 0:31:39He took me downstairs,

0:31:39 > 0:31:41his hand over my mouth,

0:31:41 > 0:31:43took me into the kitchen.

0:31:46 > 0:31:47Go on.

0:31:49 > 0:31:50He used my name.

0:31:52 > 0:31:53He called me Rose.

0:31:59 > 0:32:02'I thought, perhaps, I recognised the voice.

0:32:05 > 0:32:08'He said he didn't want to hurt me or my lovely family...

0:32:10 > 0:32:12'..but that he would if I cried out.

0:32:16 > 0:32:17'And then he released me.

0:32:21 > 0:32:24'And when I turned round, I recognised him.

0:32:28 > 0:32:30'What did you think in that moment?

0:32:35 > 0:32:37'Just for a moment...

0:32:38 > 0:32:41'..I thought that maybe it would be all right.

0:32:42 > 0:32:44'That maybe it was a joke,

0:32:44 > 0:32:45'a game.'

0:33:00 > 0:33:01What did you say?

0:33:03 > 0:33:06I just said, "Peter?"

0:33:14 > 0:33:15He...

0:33:15 > 0:33:19made me dress from clothes that were hanging in the utility room.

0:33:21 > 0:33:22He made me write a note.

0:33:22 > 0:33:24He told me what to put.

0:33:27 > 0:33:29The house seemed so silent.

0:33:31 > 0:33:34The sound of the pen on the paper

0:33:34 > 0:33:36seemed really loud in my head.

0:33:37 > 0:33:38Like a whooshing.

0:33:41 > 0:33:44All I could think about was getting him out of there,

0:33:44 > 0:33:46away from Nancy.

0:33:48 > 0:33:50Did you resist him at all?

0:33:52 > 0:33:54Er... I was numb.

0:33:57 > 0:34:00I didn't really struggle until he was walking me

0:34:00 > 0:34:02towards that awful building.

0:34:06 > 0:34:09I thought, "If he takes me in there...

0:34:10 > 0:34:12"..I'm going to die.

0:34:15 > 0:34:17"I'm going to be the next victim."

0:34:19 > 0:34:21That's when I tried to run.

0:34:24 > 0:34:26But he was too strong.

0:34:35 > 0:34:36He made tapes of you.

0:34:38 > 0:34:41We found edited versions of those tapes on his phone.

0:34:44 > 0:34:46You've seen them?

0:34:53 > 0:34:56He tied me to a chair.

0:34:56 > 0:34:58It was fixed to the ground.

0:35:00 > 0:35:03And he sat behind the camera, so that when I looked at him,

0:35:03 > 0:35:06I was looking directly into the lens.

0:35:08 > 0:35:10He hardly spoke, he...

0:35:12 > 0:35:13He just stared at me.

0:35:19 > 0:35:22I tried everything I could to get through to him.

0:35:24 > 0:35:28I begged him, I flattered him, I insulted him.

0:35:28 > 0:35:30I tried to provoke him, even.

0:35:32 > 0:35:34He didn't respond.

0:35:36 > 0:35:39His eyes were open, but it was like he was in a trance.

0:35:41 > 0:35:43Did he sexually assault you?

0:35:45 > 0:35:46No.

0:35:47 > 0:35:49I don't think so.

0:35:51 > 0:35:54Did he perform sex acts on himself?

0:35:54 > 0:35:55Did he masturbate in front of you?

0:35:57 > 0:35:59No. Just the filming.

0:36:05 > 0:36:06Are those healing all right?

0:36:10 > 0:36:12I'm told I did it to myself.

0:36:14 > 0:36:17I have no memory of that.

0:36:17 > 0:36:20We found the broken lens from a pair of sunglasses

0:36:20 > 0:36:22in the boot of your car.

0:36:22 > 0:36:25Your blood was on them. There were no other fingerprints.

0:36:29 > 0:36:32I can't work out if it's just marks...

0:36:34 > 0:36:35..or if it's a message.

0:36:38 > 0:36:39When I first saw it...

0:36:40 > 0:36:44..it looked like an attempt to write "I love you".

0:36:54 > 0:36:56Breathe.

0:36:56 > 0:36:58ROSE GROANS

0:37:06 > 0:37:10I always thought that I wanted...

0:37:11 > 0:37:12..love and security.

0:37:14 > 0:37:16Now I just

0:37:16 > 0:37:19feel like I'm floating free...

0:37:21 > 0:37:22..in a void.

0:37:24 > 0:37:26SHE SNIFFS

0:37:26 > 0:37:28Oh...

0:37:32 > 0:37:35You have such a strong sense of purpose.

0:37:37 > 0:37:38I feel like...

0:37:38 > 0:37:41there's nothing beneath my feet right now, like...

0:37:43 > 0:37:45..nothing to steady them.

0:37:50 > 0:37:52It's as if I'm slightly drunk...!

0:37:53 > 0:37:55Rose. Rose...

0:37:58 > 0:37:59Remember...

0:38:00 > 0:38:01..you survived.

0:38:05 > 0:38:07You got through it.

0:38:10 > 0:38:11It's in the past.

0:38:27 > 0:38:30- TV:- 'Paul Spector, a 32-year-old bereavement counsellor

0:38:30 > 0:38:34'from South Belfast charged with four counts of murder

0:38:34 > 0:38:37'is due to make his first appearance in court today.

0:38:37 > 0:38:41'The four female victims, all young professional women in their 30s,

0:38:41 > 0:38:44'were attacked in their homes at night.

0:38:44 > 0:38:48'Three of those women died of manual or ligature strangulation.

0:38:49 > 0:38:51'Spector, a married man and a father of two,

0:38:51 > 0:38:55'is also charged with the attempted murder of accountant Annie Brawley

0:38:55 > 0:38:58'and the abduction and unlawful imprisonment

0:38:58 > 0:39:00'of Belfast radiologist Rose Stagg...'

0:39:17 > 0:39:19HE GROANS

0:39:19 > 0:39:21HE SIGHS

0:39:31 > 0:39:34I worry this is all too soon for you.

0:39:35 > 0:39:37I'll be fine.

0:39:48 > 0:39:51HUM OF CONVERSATION

0:39:54 > 0:39:56CAR APPROACHES

0:39:58 > 0:40:00REPORTERS MURMUR

0:40:00 > 0:40:03Are you getting this? The victims' families...

0:40:03 > 0:40:04Detective Superintendent Gibson!

0:40:04 > 0:40:07The man you have in custody, will he be appearing in court today?

0:40:07 > 0:40:09Will you be making a statement any time soon?

0:40:09 > 0:40:12Chief Superintendent, is Spector appearing in person today?

0:40:12 > 0:40:15- ENGINE TURNS - Give us an update on the condition of Rose Stagg...

0:40:32 > 0:40:34INDISTINCT CONVERSATION

0:40:36 > 0:40:38Are you ready for this?

0:40:38 > 0:40:40I'm a bit nervous, but, yeah.

0:40:40 > 0:40:42Yeah, shall we head up, then?

0:40:43 > 0:40:44- How are you?- Not too bad...

0:40:58 > 0:41:00TAPE RIPS

0:41:20 > 0:41:21Stand there.

0:41:26 > 0:41:29HANDCUFFS CLINK AND JANGLE

0:41:32 > 0:41:33Look straight into that camera.

0:41:33 > 0:41:37You will be able to see the judge and the legal teams.

0:41:37 > 0:41:38Answer any questions clearly.

0:41:50 > 0:41:53HUSHED CONVERSATION

0:41:57 > 0:41:59The prosecution has suggested

0:41:59 > 0:42:01we read the shortened version of the charge.

0:42:01 > 0:42:04- Are you happy enough with that? - Yeah, that's fine.

0:42:09 > 0:42:10CLERK: All rise.

0:42:17 > 0:42:19Thank you. Please sit.

0:42:24 > 0:42:26Are you ready to proceed, ma'am?

0:42:28 > 0:42:29I am.

0:42:33 > 0:42:37Mr Spector, can you see and hear the proceedings?

0:42:37 > 0:42:38Yes.

0:42:38 > 0:42:42The charges against the accused are stated as four counts of murder,

0:42:42 > 0:42:46one of attempted murder and one of abduction

0:42:46 > 0:42:49and unlawful imprisonment.

0:42:49 > 0:42:51'Can you confirm for the court that you are Peter Paul Spector?'

0:42:53 > 0:42:54Yes.

0:42:54 > 0:42:57'That your date of birth is the 25th May, 1979.'

0:42:57 > 0:42:59That's correct.

0:42:59 > 0:43:03And that you live at 64, Tiberias Drive, Belfast,

0:43:03 > 0:43:05BT6 7KM?

0:43:06 > 0:43:08'So I've been told.'

0:43:12 > 0:43:14Why is he answering in that manner?

0:43:14 > 0:43:16Ma'am, if I may.

0:43:17 > 0:43:19My client has to answer in that manner

0:43:19 > 0:43:21because he has suffered significant memory loss.

0:43:21 > 0:43:26As you no doubt know, Mr Spector was shot while in police custody.

0:43:26 > 0:43:31He lost his spleen as a result and was in a coma for some time.

0:43:31 > 0:43:33The reason he is appearing from hospital

0:43:33 > 0:43:36is that he is still being held there in intensive care.

0:43:36 > 0:43:40I have written reports from the ICU Consultant, Dr Spencer,

0:43:40 > 0:43:44and from the Consultant Neuropsychologist Dr Alison Walden,

0:43:44 > 0:43:49that explain the nature and degree of my client's disability.

0:43:49 > 0:43:54Dr Walden is approved under Part 2 of the Mental Health Order 1986.

0:43:54 > 0:43:59There's information there about the treatment Mr Spector has undergone

0:43:59 > 0:44:01and an account of his behaviour in hospital.

0:44:01 > 0:44:03The memory loss, you will see,

0:44:03 > 0:44:05covers a period of approximately six years

0:44:05 > 0:44:07up to and including

0:44:07 > 0:44:09the recent shooting.

0:44:09 > 0:44:12One of the primary foundations of criminal law

0:44:12 > 0:44:17is that all defendants are capable of actively participating

0:44:17 > 0:44:19'in their defence.

0:44:19 > 0:44:22'Mr Spector's amnesia prevents him from so doing.'

0:44:22 > 0:44:24HE PANTS

0:44:24 > 0:44:26'Whilst Mr Spector understands that he is in court

0:44:26 > 0:44:29'and charged with a number of criminal offences

0:44:29 > 0:44:31'and understands the nature and object

0:44:31 > 0:44:33'and the possible consequences of the proceedings,'

0:44:33 > 0:44:35he cannot enter a plea,

0:44:35 > 0:44:38he cannot consult with or assist his lawyer,

0:44:38 > 0:44:40he cannot give evidence in his own defence.

0:44:40 > 0:44:44On that basis, I feel I need to raise the issue of competence

0:44:44 > 0:44:47as to whether Mr Spector is fit to stand trial.

0:44:47 > 0:44:49Mr Healy, let me stop you there.

0:44:49 > 0:44:52The concerns you have raised are noted,

0:44:52 > 0:44:53but you know as well as I do

0:44:53 > 0:44:57that it's not a matter on which this court can adjudicate.

0:45:01 > 0:45:05Mr Spector, do you understand that your case must be sent

0:45:05 > 0:45:07'to Crown Court?'

0:45:07 > 0:45:08Yes.

0:45:09 > 0:45:12'Then you will be held on remand in hospital

0:45:12 > 0:45:14'until arrangements can be made

0:45:14 > 0:45:17'to transfer you to a secure psychiatric clinic

0:45:17 > 0:45:20'where more tests can be done

0:45:20 > 0:45:23'to determine the nature of your mental disability.'

0:45:23 > 0:45:25HE BREATHES RAGGEDLY

0:45:36 > 0:45:40SHOUTING AND CLAMOUR

0:45:43 > 0:45:45That's the guy who's defending the murderer!

0:45:45 > 0:45:47Mr Healy, how does it feel to be defending the Belfast Strangler?

0:45:47 > 0:45:49The ALLEGED Belfast Strangler.

0:45:49 > 0:45:52SHOUTING FADES

0:45:55 > 0:45:58- TV:- 'Dressed in a blue sweatshirt and tracksuit bottoms,

0:45:58 > 0:46:01'Mr Spector spoke only to confirm his name and date of birth

0:46:01 > 0:46:02'during the ten-minute hearing,

0:46:02 > 0:46:04'at that point proceedings took a bizarre twist

0:46:04 > 0:46:07'as it became apparent that the alleged serial killer

0:46:07 > 0:46:10'is suffering from significant memory loss.

0:46:10 > 0:46:13'Mr Spector was remanded in custody to undergo further medical

0:46:13 > 0:46:14'and psychiatric assessment.

0:46:14 > 0:46:17'Following the hearing, the public prosecution service

0:46:17 > 0:46:19'confirmed that Sally Ann Spector

0:46:19 > 0:46:22'will appear in the Crown Court on Monday 2nd July

0:46:22 > 0:46:25'to face charges of perverting the course of justice.

0:46:25 > 0:46:27'The prosecution claims that Mr Spector's wife,

0:46:27 > 0:46:30'provided her husband with false alibis.'

0:46:30 > 0:46:32SIRENS WAIL

0:46:40 > 0:46:42MOBILE RINGS

0:46:50 > 0:46:52Gibson?

0:46:52 > 0:46:54- MAN:- 'Superintendent Gibson?'

0:46:54 > 0:46:56Yes.

0:46:56 > 0:46:57'I'm August Larson.

0:46:59 > 0:47:01'I'm the consultant psychiatrist

0:47:01 > 0:47:03'who has been asked to assess Paul Spector.'

0:47:06 > 0:47:08It's an odd time to be calling, Doctor.

0:47:11 > 0:47:12Are you still working?

0:47:13 > 0:47:14'Yes.'

0:47:14 > 0:47:16Well, there you are.

0:47:17 > 0:47:19Before he's moved here,

0:47:19 > 0:47:23I need to determine the risk of violence towards himself

0:47:23 > 0:47:25and others and plan his management.

0:47:27 > 0:47:30Have you seen the list of crimes he's been charged with?

0:47:31 > 0:47:34'I received that information from the court, yes.'

0:47:38 > 0:47:41In my experience, a history of previous violence

0:47:41 > 0:47:44is the best predictor for future violence

0:47:44 > 0:47:48for someone whether they are mentally disordered or not.

0:47:48 > 0:47:53'And Paul Spector is a violent sexual sadist.'

0:48:00 > 0:48:02Why are you so kind to me?

0:48:06 > 0:48:08If I've done the things that the...

0:48:08 > 0:48:11police say I've done, then I'm a monster.

0:48:13 > 0:48:14It's my job.

0:48:20 > 0:48:22What?

0:48:24 > 0:48:27It says in your notes that there were tears in your eyes

0:48:27 > 0:48:29during your surgery.

0:48:30 > 0:48:31That you were crying.

0:48:35 > 0:48:37Was I?

0:48:39 > 0:48:42Does that mean anything to you?

0:48:46 > 0:48:47Perhaps...

0:48:49 > 0:48:51I just...

0:48:52 > 0:48:54..can't believe the memory loss is real.

0:48:56 > 0:48:59He's just the sort of person who would feign amnesia

0:48:59 > 0:49:02if he felt that there was something to be gained from it.

0:49:02 > 0:49:06'Even just for the sheer delight of duping people,

0:49:06 > 0:49:07'particularly experts.'

0:49:07 > 0:49:11- HE SCOFFS - Someone like me, for example?

0:49:12 > 0:49:15'I'm just saying that, from my conversations with him,

0:49:15 > 0:49:16'it seems to me that he exhibits,

0:49:16 > 0:49:21'if anything, a superior memory for his violence.'

0:49:21 > 0:49:25It's clear to me that he rehearsed the crimes in his mind

0:49:25 > 0:49:27over and over.

0:49:28 > 0:49:30They were heavily scripted.

0:49:30 > 0:49:34And so, the crimes themselves were memorable

0:49:34 > 0:49:36both in the way that they match the script

0:49:36 > 0:49:38and in the way that they differ.

0:49:40 > 0:49:42So, in my view, it's...

0:49:43 > 0:49:45..extremely unlikely that he has...

0:49:45 > 0:49:47'forgotten anything.'

0:49:47 > 0:49:49Faced with memory loss,

0:49:49 > 0:49:53there is only one way a clinician can go

0:49:53 > 0:49:54and that is to investigate.

0:49:56 > 0:49:58If we take him here,

0:49:58 > 0:50:01then that is what I intend to do.

0:50:01 > 0:50:02'If you have the time,

0:50:02 > 0:50:05'I'd really appreciate getting a premorbid appraisal

0:50:05 > 0:50:07'of Mr Spector from you.

0:50:07 > 0:50:10'As someone who has had extensive dealings with him.'

0:50:11 > 0:50:15Anything at all you can tell me about him would be extremely useful.

0:50:18 > 0:50:20I'll help in any way I can.

0:50:21 > 0:50:23'Thank you.

0:50:24 > 0:50:25'Good night.'

0:50:27 > 0:50:28Good night.

0:50:41 > 0:50:43- SPECTOR:- 'Everything went dark.'

0:50:44 > 0:50:47And did time seem to speed up or slow down?

0:50:49 > 0:50:50It sped up.

0:50:52 > 0:50:54I was rushing through a tunnel.

0:50:57 > 0:51:00And did you see or feel surrounded by a brilliant light?

0:51:01 > 0:51:04- There was a light. - Can you describe it?

0:51:07 > 0:51:10- Incredibly bright. Blinding. - And hot?

0:51:11 > 0:51:13No, not hot.

0:51:15 > 0:51:18Did you come to a border or a point of no return?

0:51:22 > 0:51:24There was a point. Um...

0:51:24 > 0:51:26I felt I could have gone on.

0:51:27 > 0:51:30But there were voices calling me back.

0:51:30 > 0:51:32What voices?

0:51:33 > 0:51:34My daughter.

0:51:34 > 0:51:36Olivia.

0:52:04 > 0:52:07'And was there anyone else there known to you,

0:52:07 > 0:52:08'living or dead?'

0:52:10 > 0:52:11Yes.

0:52:11 > 0:52:12Who?

0:52:18 > 0:52:19I think my mother.

0:52:21 > 0:52:22And what happened?

0:52:25 > 0:52:27How did you feel in her presence?

0:52:35 > 0:52:37Afraid.

0:52:38 > 0:52:40Did she speak to you?

0:52:43 > 0:52:44She was calling me.

0:52:46 > 0:52:49I think she wanted me to come to her.

0:52:50 > 0:52:51Towards the light.

0:52:52 > 0:52:55But there was other voices.

0:52:55 > 0:52:57My daughter calling me back.

0:53:01 > 0:53:03And did you want to come back to your body?

0:53:03 > 0:53:05Come back to life?

0:53:10 > 0:53:11No.

0:53:14 > 0:53:16But I couldn't just abandon her.

0:53:18 > 0:53:19Is that when you cried?

0:53:25 > 0:53:26Hey.

0:53:35 > 0:53:37Drink it all up.

0:53:42 > 0:53:43Good girl.

0:54:20 > 0:54:22You came close with dying.

0:54:25 > 0:54:28What do you now understand death to be?

0:54:28 > 0:54:30What does death mean to you now?

0:54:34 > 0:54:35I know that life

0:54:35 > 0:54:37is our only true possession.

0:54:40 > 0:54:41And death?

0:54:50 > 0:54:52- ANDERSON:- 'I've found a murder that looks promising.'

0:54:52 > 0:54:55Really? The right initials?

0:54:55 > 0:54:56That's not the connection.

0:54:56 > 0:54:59A law student. Susan Harper.

0:55:00 > 0:55:01Do you think she looks right?

0:55:02 > 0:55:05- Yes, absolutely. Just a bit younger.- 21.

0:55:05 > 0:55:09The only problem is there is someone doing time for it.

0:55:09 > 0:55:12It's an individual called David Alvarez.

0:55:12 > 0:55:15I remembered I saw his name yesterday on the list of children

0:55:15 > 0:55:18who were in Gortnacull at the same time as Spector.

0:55:18 > 0:55:19So, I've done some digging.

0:55:19 > 0:55:22And they are one and the same.

0:55:22 > 0:55:24The David Alvarez who's doing time for the murder

0:55:24 > 0:55:26is the same David Alvarez

0:55:26 > 0:55:29who was a fellow pupil of Spector's at the home.

0:55:29 > 0:55:30Why was Alvarez convicted?

0:55:30 > 0:55:33His DNA on her body.

0:55:33 > 0:55:36A subsequent confession.

0:55:36 > 0:55:37That's pretty conclusive.

0:55:39 > 0:55:40What year is this?

0:55:40 > 0:55:43August 2002.

0:55:44 > 0:55:46In London.

0:55:47 > 0:55:50Now, there's a gap in Spector's time-line.

0:55:51 > 0:55:55We don't know where he was or what he was doing.

0:55:56 > 0:55:58No, we don't.

0:57:06 > 0:57:09SEA SWELLS AND BREAKS

0:57:25 > 0:57:27I'll see you in the morning.

0:57:27 > 0:57:29Try and get some sleep.

0:57:39 > 0:57:40I'll pray for you.